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"Dimitrios" <musurgio@otenet.gr> wrote in message =
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Kerry,
The uthor refused to make a ral pdc because of some restrictions that =
vst
plugins give.
Anyway maybe you did not understand how Faderworks new version will =
work.
Ok...
So you have a bunch of plugins.
You collect their latencies, someone , maybe me, will post the most =
used
plugins with their latencies...
Then you just make presets inside faderworks with name and latency.
For instance
Waves rvox 64
Waves rcomp 64
Drumagog 175
etc

Then whenever you put say rvox on a paris audio track you just will =
scroll
your column inside faderworks until you find the one named rvox nd =
just hit
the on button !
Thats all !!
All other faderworkds instances on all other paris audio tracks will =
get
delayed by that latency !
Its a damn clever sustem.
It even substracts latencies !!
So if you have a overall 256 samples latency and you put a plugin on a =
Re: response from ID [message #95332 is a reply to message #95331] Fri, 01 February 2008 16:30 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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/> new
track that has 64 then the 256 overall does not change but the above =
track
gets delayed by 256-64=3D 198 !!!
He is damn clever guy !
Hope this helps,
Regards,
Dimitrios

Kerry Galloway <kg@kerrygalloway.com> wrote:
>Dimitrios, I'm wondering - I've never used FaderWorks, but seeing as =
plugin
>latencies are absolute and repeatable across systems - are there any =
plans
>to include a database of the commonly used plugins so Faderworks just
>recognizes them and sets their latencies automatically?
>
>Yes, I know it's lazy - and the current version doesn't seem to be =
much
of a
>hassle at all. But you gotta admit, it'd be elegant. All that seems
>necessary is for the most commonly used plugins to be databased by
>Faderworks in advance rather than being manually entered and for the
>software to do what software does best (which is to go look stuff up =
and
>write it somewhere else). Or maybe I'm misunderstanding how it works, =
and
it
>does this already?
>
>- Kerry
>
>
>On 4/11/08 11:26 AM, in article 47ffad71$1@linux, "Dimitrios"
><musurgio@otenet.gr> wrote:
>
>>=20
>> The author promised me a new upgrade for Faderworks tailored
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Re: response from ID [message #95337 is a reply to message #95334] Fri, 01 February 2008 16:42 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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tracks get=20
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plugin=20
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asked him so=20
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for
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ux" target="_blank">480170b3@linux, "Tom Bruhl"
<arpegio@comcast.net> wrote:

>> >Dimitrios,
> Does Paris automation and it's GUI remain lined up
> after applying a plugin with latency and compensating with Faderworks?
>
> What is the prospective time of availablitity for this blessing?
>> >Tom
>
>
>
>
>>
>> "Dimitrios" <musurgio@otenet.gr> wrote in message news:480162c4$1@linux...
>>
>> Kerry,
>> The uthor refused to make a ral pdc because of some restrictions that vst
>> plugins give.
>> Anyway maybe you did not understand how Faderworks new version will work.
>> Ok...
>> So you have a bunch of plugins.
>> You collect their latencies, someone , maybe me, will post the most used
>> plugins with their latencies...
>> Then you just make presets inside faderworks with name and latency.
>> For instance
>> Waves rvox 64
>> Waves rcomp 64
>> Drumagog 175
>> etc
>>
>> Then whenever you put say rvox on a paris audio track you just will scroll
>> your column inside faderworks until you find the one named rvox nd just hit
>> the on button !
>> Thats all !!
>> All other faderworkds instances on all other paris audio tracks will get
>> delayed by that latency !
>> Its a damn clever sustem.
>> It even substracts latencies !!
>> So if you have a overall 256 samples latency and you put a plugin on a new
>> track that has 64 then the 256 overall does not change but the above track
>> gets delayed by 256-64= 198 !!!
>> He is damn clever guy !
>> Hope this helps,
>> Regards,
>> Dimitrios
>>
>> Kerry Galloway <kg@kerrygalloway.com> wrote:
>>> >Dimitrios, I'm wondering - I've never used FaderWorks, but seeing as
>>> plugin
>>> >latencies are absolute and repeatable across systems - are there any plans
>>> >to include a database of the commonly used plugins so Faderworks just
>>> >recognizes them and sets their latencies automatically?
>>> >
>>> >Yes, I know it's lazy - and the current version doesn't seem to be much
>> of a
>>> >hassle at all. But you gotta admit, it'd be elegant. All that seems
>>> >necessary is for the most commonly used plugins to be databased by
>>> >Faderworks in advance rather than being manually entered and for the
>>> >software to do what software does best (which is to go look stuff up and
>>> >write it somewhere else). Or maybe I'm misunderstanding how it works, and
>> it
>>> >does this already?
>>> >
>>> >- Kerry
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >On 4/11/08 11:26 AM, in article 47ffad71$1@linux, "Dimitrios"
>>> ><
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ref="mailto:musurgio@otenet.gr" target="_blank">musurgio@otenet.gr> wrote:
>>> >
>>>> >>
>>>> >> The author promised me a new upgrade for Faderworks tailored to us
>>>> Paris
>> users
>>>> >> !!!
>>>> >> This the page where you put all your plugins names and known latencies
>> so
>>>> >> every time you put a plugin on your audio track you just push the om
>>>> button
>>>> >> and all other Paris audio tracks get alligned !!
>>>> >> What else could we ask from a third party plugin developer ??
>>>> >> He first made a PDC for us when I kindly asked him so and then he makes
>> this
>>>> >> update to make it even better for all of us Paris users ( am I alone
>>>> ??)
>>>> >> For all thos that have not bought Faderworks please do so to show our
>>>> >> gratitute
>>>> >> because he will make our work with Paris so much easier !
>>>> >> DeeJ come on back we are waiting for you, jump on Paris again !
>>>> >> Regards,
>>>> >> Dimitrios
>>> >
>
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be talking out my hindquarters here, but it seems to me that the principle =
that it works on is delaying audio streams according to a mini-database of l=
atencies; I don&#8217;t see how the editor screen could know anything about =
what the plugins are doing to the audio, so I&#8217;m guessing no. Of course=
I&#8217;d love to have that hunch proven wrong.<BR>
<BR>
- K<BR>
<BR>
<BR>
On 4/12/08 7:22 PM, in article 480170b3@linux, &quot;Tom Bruhl&quot; &lt;ar=
pegio@comcast.net&gt; wrote:<BR>
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>&gt;Dimitrios,<BR>
Does Paris automation and it's GUI remain lined up<BR>
after applying a plugin with latency and compensating with Faderworks?<BR>
</FONT><FONT FACE=3D"Verdana, Helvetica, Arial"> <BR>
</FONT><FONT FACE=3D"Arial">What is the prospective time of availablitity for=
this blessing?<BR>
&gt;Tom<BR>
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&quot;Dimitrios&quot; &lt;musurgio@otenet.gr&gt; wrote in message &nbsp;new=
s:480162c4$1@linux...<BR>
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Kerry,<BR>
The &nbsp;uthor refused to make a ral pdc because of some restrictions that=
&nbsp;vst<BR>
plugins give.<BR>
Anyway maybe you did not understand how Faderworks new &nbsp;version will w
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nbsp;&quot;Dim=
itrios&quot;<BR>
&gt;&lt;musurgio@otenet.gr&gt; &nbsp;wrote:<BR>
&gt;<BR>
&gt;&gt; <BR>
&gt;&gt; The author promised me a new upgrade &nbsp;for Faderworks tailored=
to us Paris<BR>
users<BR>
&gt;&gt; !!!<BR>
&gt;&gt; This &nbsp;the page where you put all your plugins names and known=
&nbsp;latencies<BR>
so<BR>
&gt;&gt; every time you put a plugin on your audio track &nbsp;you just pus=
h the om button<BR>
&gt;&gt; and all other Paris audio tracks get &nbsp;alligned !!<BR>
&gt;&gt; What else could we ask from a third party plugin &nbsp;developer ?=
?<BR>
&gt;&gt; He first made a PDC for us when I kindly asked him so &nbsp;and th=
en he makes<BR>
this<BR>
&gt;&gt; update to make it even better for all of &nbsp;us Paris users ( am=
I alone ??)<BR>
&gt;&gt; For all thos that have not bought &nbsp;Faderworks please do so to=
show our<BR>
&gt;&gt; gratitute<BR>
&gt;&gt; because &nbsp;he will make our work with Paris so much easier !<BR=
>
&gt;&gt; DeeJ come on &nbsp;back we are waiting for you, jump on Paris agai=
n !<BR>
&gt;&gt; &nbsp;Regards,<BR>
&gt;&gt; Dimitrios<BR>
&gt;<BR>
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--B_3290883939_20656351--Thanks for the corrections, Mike, I hadn't realized you fixed the 0/50
thing. That needs to be updated elsewhere too, I'll track it down. I
"roughed in" more of the plug-in section as well.

Coming soon, a very cool old interview with SSC found by user Kim Webster un
an Australian audio mag - lots of interesting historical perspective.

- Kerry


On 4/12/08 6:00 PM, in article 48015b30$1@linux, "Mike Audet" <mike@..>
wrote:

>
> Hi Kerry,
>
> Thanks so much for doing this. I made a few minor changes to the wiki this
> afternoon. I'll do more as I can.
>
> You rock!
>
> Mike
>
>
> Kerry Galloway <kg@kerrygalloway.com> wrote:
>> Greetings all!
>>
>> Technology sure changes fast. A piece of technology became available to
> me a
>> while back that finally allowed me to build what I used to just dream about.
>>
>> Namely - there is now a PARISWiki where PARIS aficionados can compile all
>> existing data concerning PARIS. I've started the ball rolling by beginning
>> the process of converting and compiling the varied and valuable information
>> found amongst the various official and unofficial FAQs.
>>
>> You might want to read the rest of the email before you click, but the site
>> is linked at the bottom if you're not a "manuals" type.
>>
>> For those unfamiliar with the term - a "Wiki" is a collaborative,
>> community-driven encyclopedia. You don't complain to someone when you spot
>> something wrong or incomplete or missing - you *fix it yourself*. To do
> this
>> is trivially easy - once you're registered and logged in, double-click
>> directly on the page you're reading and an editor opens. You can begin
>> entering/editing text right there. If you want to create a new page, you
>> just type a "CamelCa
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