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| Re: magma [message #92717 is a reply to message #92710] |
Wed, 14 November 2007 18:53   |
AlexPlasko
Messages: 211
Registered: September 2006
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the 'Distribution Of Wealth". $$$$ Nothing more, nothing less.
Those Billionairs love to keep us scabbling and blaming, pointing fingers,
while they continue to rape us of what little monies we try to save..
Unless you are rich, you have no right to "fight/debate a richman's fight".
Dedric Terry <dterry@keyofd.net> wrote:
>Lamont, don't take offense to this, but your post sounds as racist and
>prejudiced as I've heard, and certainly in the context that it is directed
>at me. I'm not going to get into this further as it's going nowhere and
I
>don't have any interest in sharing my personal life experiences online (that
>would have to be over coffee in person - perhaps we'll have a chance
>someday), but trust me when I say, when referring to me as "typical white
>man" or "your hero Ron Reagan" you have no idea what you are talking about.
>None. You are judging me without knowing me or any facts whatsoever. That's
>shortsighted at best, racist at worst - not an accusation, just an
>observation. Again, no personal offense intended at all - just hoping you
>can see the reality of how your words and point of view come across. It's
>hard to gain sympathy for a problem you may face if you treat others the
>same way.
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>To end on a less personal note, there is a huge difference between helping
>the poor and handing out token freebies as a government program in hopes
of
>changing a society. Monumental difference.
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>In truth it's our society that should be helping one another at the
>community, neighborhood and personal level. We develop programs to expand
>what we want to do personally on a smaller scale, but eventually the effect
>is watered down both financially among other costs, and certainly on a
>personal level as there is no personal interaction. I think most of us
are
>guilty of relying on another organization, church, or government to do the
>work while we drop a check in the mail or t
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| Re: magma [message #92732 is a reply to message #92717] |
Thu, 15 November 2007 07:51 |
Chris Ludwig
Messages: 868
Registered: May 2006
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who is doing
something cool in our troubled urban areas:
http://susanstroh.com/hello_Somebody.html
I know Reverend Johnson and he is an awesome guy. check it out.
LaMont wrote:
> Good Morning,
>
> I apologize if my statements come off as racist, they are not..Just a fact
> from a Black man in America. Our view points are differnt because our cultural
> upbringing.
>
> I disagree with you about giving and so-called gov freebies. First, it's
> not the Govs money. It's our. So, we the people have a right to choose how
> to spend it. Helping people in need is Trait from God. He (God) does not
> turn his back on us when we ar e in need, so why are to turn a blind eye
> to someone who is?
>
> Not to mention, Corp bailouts all in name ad cause of "good for the economy"..Oh
> Yeah, what about all those who have been and are facing foreclosure.. Should
> we not help them?
>
> You are speweing right-wing libritarian nonsense that keeps us poor folks
> arguing over "scraps".Meanwhile the rich just keep getting richer and richer.
> And all your types do is look at a brand or group of folks to blame it on..
>
> It's all about the 'Distribution Of Wealth". $$$$ Nothing more, nothing less.
> Those Billionairs love to keep us scabbling and blaming, pointing fingers,
> while they continue to rape us of what little monies we try to save..
>
> Unless you are rich, you have no right to "fight/debate a richman's fight".
>
>
>
>
>
> Dedric Terry <dterry@keyofd.net> wrote:
>> Lamont, don't take offense to this, but your post sounds as racist and
>> prejudiced as I've heard, and certainly in the context that it is directed
>> at me. I'm not going to get into this further as it's going nowhere and
> I
>> don't have any interest in sharing my personal life experiences online (that
>> would have to be over coffee in person - perhaps we'll have a chance
>> someday), but trust me when I say, when referring to me as "typical white
>> man" or "your hero Ron Reagan" you have no idea what you are talking about.
>> None. You are judging me without knowing me or any facts whatsoever. That's
>> shortsighted at best, racist at worst - not an accusation, just an
>> observation. Again, no personal offense intended at all - just hoping you
>> can see the reality of how your wor
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| Re: magma [message #92742 is a reply to message #92732] |
Thu, 15 November 2007 13:16 |
AlexPlasko
Messages: 211
Registered: September 2006
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;>>> What I have heard him say is that he does not believe in addressing
>>>>>>>> problems of groups, but that it should be of individuals. I agree
> with
>>>>>>>> that. Any effort to lump people together as group, whether it be
> racial,
>>>>>>>> religious, political or sexual generates generalities that may or
> may
>>>>>>>> not apply. Only specific truths and viewpoints lead to solutions.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> LaMont wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Being a student of racial affairs of this nation, you learn the
> code
>>>>>>>>> word
>>>>>>>>> of Racist. I's a disguised language of codes words. When interviews
>>>>> by
>>>>>>> Russert,
>>>>>>>>> he RP started saying those coded words. When Russert pressed on
> about
>>>>>>> his
>>>>>>>>> past voting record and writings, he got angry and then "cracked"..
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> He's a Texan Reacist. Period. Yeah, he's saying the right things
> about
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>> Iraq situation, but on the domestic front, this dude whats to take
>>>>>>>>> America
>>>>>>>>> back into the 1940-50s on race relations. That's not good. Therefore,
>>>>>>> he
>>>>>>>>> is a Kook..A hack, a Third rate Racist Texas Politicition..
>>>>>>>>> "DC" <dc@spammersinhell.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> http://www.tnr.com/politics/story.html?id=e2f15397-a3c7-4720 -ac15-4532a
>>>>>>>>>> 7d
>>>>>>>>>> a84ca
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> This is not good...
>So are you poor or just looking for sympathy at someone else's expense?
Sorry to be so blunt, but that's what it sounds like. To paraphrase your
admonishment,
if you aren't poor, then you have no right to fight a poor man's fight.
You are also still
making "your types" generalizations, and I don't appreciate it. You don't
know what you
are talking about and again, no offense, but you are using race as a crutch,
and I find that offensive.
I personally know people who've seen more hard times and challenges than you
could imagine,
and I know for certain they would be insulted by your approach and attitude
to what one needs to do personally to
succeed in this country or any other, regardless of race. I'm not going to
state their race because imho, their race isn't important - who they are and
what they've accomplished in life is (no, these aren't millionaires -
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