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Fri, 01 February 2008 21:24

Gantt Kushner

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=
ork. 
Ok... 
So you have a bunch of plugins. 
You collect  their latencies, someone , maybe me, will post the most u=
sed 
plugins with  their latencies... 
Then you just make presets inside faderworks w

Gantt Kushner
Gizmo Recording Company
Silver Spring, MD
www.gizmorecording.com

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Fri, 01 February 2008 21:47

dc[3]
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ith name  and latency.<B=
R>
For instance 
Waves rvox  64 
Waves rcomp  64 
Drumagog    175 
etc 
 
Then whenever you put say  rvox on a paris audio track you just will s=
croll 
your column inside  faderworks until you find the one named rvox nd ju=
st hit 
the on button  ! 
Thats all !! 
All other faderworkds instances on all other paris audio  tracks will =
get 
delayed by that latency !&

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Fri, 01 February 2008 22:23

excelav

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lt;BR>
Its a damn clever  sustem. 
It even substracts latencies !! 
So if you have a overall 256  samples latency and you put a plugin on =
a new 
track that has 64 then the  256 overall does not change but the above =
track 
gets delayed by 256-64=3D 198  !!! 
He is damn clever guy ! 
Hope this  helps, 
Regards, 
Dimitrios 
 
Kerry Galloway &

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Fri, 01 February 2008 22:28

excelav

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amp;lt;kg@kerrygalloway.com>  wrote: 
>Dimitrios, I'm wondering - I've never used FaderWorks, but  seeing=
as plugin 
>latencies are absolute and repeatable across systems -  are there =
any plans 
>to include a database of the commonly used plugins  so Faderworks =
just 
>recognizes them and sets their latencies  automatically? 
> 
>Yes, I know it's lazy - and the current version  doesn't seem to b=
e much 
of a 
>hassle at all. But you gotta admit,  it'd be elegant. All that see=
ms 
>necessary is for the most commonly used  plugins to be databased b=
y 
>Faderworks in advance rather than being  manually entered and for =
the 
>software to

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Sat, 02 February 2008 04:09

Don Nafe

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iki turn it into a hyperlink with dashes
>> under it. Click on this and a new page with that name is created and saved
>> (before you do that, you might want to look at the page index to make sure
>> you aren't creating a duplicate). Yeah - you read that right - essentially
>> creating a hyperlink to a non-existing page, and then clicking on it,
&

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Sat, 02 February 2008 05:37

dc[3]
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gt;> actually creates the page.
>>
>> Now some important info.
>>
>> This site is *free*. By *free*, I mean - I am donating the time to build
> and
>> maintain it; donating the bandwidth and server space to serve it; there
> are
>> no "gotchas", no "enter your credit card", no "donate" buttuns and no ads;
> I
>> will never sell, trade, share or knowingly make your email addresses
>> available to others. In short, this is a "labour of love". Unless the
>> bandwidth goes absolutely insane, I can't see ever needing to "pass the
> hat"
>> for donations; if that ever happened (I doubt it, I have up to three
>> terabytes of bandwidth on the account it's served on) I'd ta

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Sat, 02 February 2008 04:44

Don Nafe

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s stay offsite; let's keep it focused; etc)
> and
>> are printed on the front page. Registration is automatic (ie open to any
>> PARIS user, past or present, no matter how casual a user) and takes all
> of
>> about thirty seconds.
>>
>> A further note on registration - it's open for all. The technology exists
> to
>> take it private, to require admin approval for who registers, etc etc; it
>> can be made very secure. However I'd like to start by assuming "if I need
> to
>> secure it, I'll secure it, but until then, welcome one and all!". So
>> registration is automatic, nobody "approves it".
>>
>> Plans for this Wiki are fairly ambitious, but I'd hope realistic and
>> sustainable. For example - amongst other developments, Aaron Allen and Chuck
>> Duffy have graciously given their consent for the Wiki to serve the Brian
>> Tankersley video, which (pending confirmation from BT), I'd like to see
>> broken into chapters and inserted in the relevant topics. I'd do this
>> pretty much ASAP pending hearing back from BT (anyone got a current contact
>> email, shoot it to me privately).
>>
>> In addition, it's "skinnable" so the plain vanilla interface will go away
> at
>> some point (when I get time) and be replaced by a slicker

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Sat, 02 February 2008 06:09

dc[3]
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custom "look".
> I
>> will be investigating the ins-and-outs of posting whole sections from the
>> actual manual inline so they can be woven in with practical observations.
>> The technologies behind this thing are incredible; there are so many things
>> you can do with this data once you've got it entered, it's amazing. Sortable
>> plugin databases so you can find all compressors or all delays and choose
>> one by feature or applicability (hey, don't laugh; you may not think you
>> need this now, but look at how fast Mike Audet is developing new ones now
>> he's hitting his stride!); key commands databased so you can pull up all
> the
>> editing modifiers in a hurry - I have hopes that as this grows it can become
>> a "leave open in the back

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Sat, 02 February 2008 08:13

Gantt Kushner

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ground" quick reference/help file. It's also going
>> to be a place to collect some of the history and "back-story" of the
>> platform, its developers and designers.
>>
>> I want to take a second here and express my gratitude to some particular
>> people for their support, enthusiasm and cooperation in advance of rollout;
>> Aaron Allen, Chuck Duffy, "Hiddensounds" Kim, Steve "artguy", Mike Arnao
> and
>> Mike Audet.
>>
>> For their invaluable work as PARIS' "de facto" maintainers of the Archives,
>> Steve "artguy" (whose last name I now commit to spelling correctly), John
>> Bercik and Doug Wellington - and Kim for hist maintenance of the NG,
>> essentially the "collective memory" of the community - and last but not
>> least those many whose contributed insights form the backbone of the Wiki.
>>
>> An extremely quick tutorial is available linked to the front page, followed
>> by detailed documentation afterwards. You aren't going to believe how easy
> -
>> and even fun - it is when you get the hang of it. But there's a test area
>> called the SandBox where you can mess around without hurting anything.
>>
>> Okidoki. More to come, but I'll shut up now. Kim's kindly made the
&g

Gantt Kushner
Gizmo Recording Company
Silver Spring, MD
www.gizmorecording.com

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Sat, 02 February 2008 08:17

Don Nafe

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k except for tom gating once in a while.
Tom
"Kerry Galloway" <kg@kerrygalloway.com> wrote in message =
news:C426E762.2C6C%kg@kerrygalloway.com...
I may be talking out my hindquarters here, but it seems to me that the =
principle that it works on is delaying audio streams according to a =
mini-database of latencies; I don't see how the editor screen could know =
anything about what the plugins are doing to the audio, so I'm guessing =
no. Of course I'd love to have that hunch proven wrong.

- K

On 4/12/08 7:22 PM, in article 480170b3@linux, "Tom Bruhl" =
<arpegio@comcast.net> wrote:

>Dimitrios,
Does Paris automation and it's GUI remain lined up
after applying a plugin with latency and compensating with =
Faderworks?

What is the prospective time of availablitity for this blessing?
>Tom

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"Dimitrios" <musurgio@otenet.gr> wrote in message =
news:480162c4$1@linux...

Kerry,
The uthor refused to make a ral pdc because of

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Sat, 02 February 2008 09:03

Deej [5]

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k. Ok... So you have a bunch of=20
plugins. You collect  their latencies, someone , maybe me, =
will=20
post the most used plugins with  their =
latencies... Then you=20
just make presets inside faderworks with name  and =
latency. For=20
instance Waves rvox  64 Waves rcomp =
 64 Drumagog=20
   175 etc Then whenever you put say =
 rvox=20
on a paris audio track you just will scroll your column inside=20
 faderworks until you find the one named rvox nd just =
hit the on=20
button  ! Thats all !! All other faderworkds instances =
on all=20

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Sat, 02 February 2008 11:50

dc[3]
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<excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:

>
> Make sure you watch all the videos, you wouldn't want to miss anything.
>
> http://www.expertvillage.com/video/4242_recording-studio-tra ining.htmI couldn't get that boom ! I wanted a boom ! haha, funny shit, I feel sorry
for expert village though.Kerry,

On our product wiki at work, you can subscribe to the wiki via an RSS client
to get the latest updates. I use sharpreader. I can't seem to be able to
do that with the paris wiki. Maybe I'm just dumb. It's a great feature for
a frequently updated wiki.

ChuckLOL! That's great: "I'm gonna give you an Upright Bass lesson,
but I don't own one, so I'm gonna use this acoustic guitar...
next I'm gonna show you how to rebuild a carburetor, but I don't
have one of those either, so I'll use this microwave oven
instead".

:D

Kerry Galloway <kg@kerrygalloway.com> wrote:
>I think his cousin does online bass lessons.
>
>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ehwx5pRQgTc
>
>- K
>
>
>On 4/13/08 12:13 AM, in article 4801b283$<

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Sat, 02 February 2008 12:05

dc[3]
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5NoiLxOOA" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sm5NoiLxOOAdid anyone else notice the audio really sucked on those clips?
AA

"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:4801b283$1@linux...
>
> Make sure you watch all the videos, you wouldn't want to miss anything.
>
> http://www.expertvillage.com/video/4242_recording-studio-tra ining.htmI'm just listening on laptop speakers, so I can't tell; but if
you can find any links to any music the guy has recorded, I'd
LOOOOOVE to check it out on my monitors... I especially would
be interested to hear how his "carderoid" mics sound - or
perhaps see what kind of results he gets with an SM-58 stuck
"all the way in on a kick, with a... errr... with a, uhh,
a 'deal' ".

Someone should tell this guy not to take bongs hits before
doing a video lesson.

lol

:D

"Aaron Allen" <know-spam@not_here.dude> wrote:
>did anyone else notice the audio really sucked on those clips?
>AA
>
>"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>news:4801b283$1@linux...
>>
>> Make sure you watch all the videos, you wouldn't want to miss anything.
>>
>> http://www.expertvillage.com/video/4242_recording-studio-tra ining.htm

>
>Oh, no... lookiee what I found:

http://www.prosoundandvideo.com/index.html

Replete with great information like this...

"I utilize the best monitors most other more expensive studios
do not have, the Neumann U-87 vocal mic. Capitol Records uses
this mic."

Yes, only Capitol Records! lol And then there's:

"The $2000 each big Genelec Model 1031A Monitors are the best!
They are perfectly flat. No surprises when you get out to the
car. The Advents ($600) leave you with more midrange. Your
vocals will be louder when you get to your car!"

And...

"For only $50 an hour (probably the lowest of any real
professional recording facility) you get the highest qua

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Sat, 02 February 2008 12:31

excelav

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uot;Aaron Allen" <know-spam@not_here.dude> wrote:
>>>did anyone else notice the audio really sucked on those clips?
>>>AA
>>>
>>>"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>>news:4801b283$1@linux...
>>>>
>>>> Make sure you watch all the videos, you wouldn't want to miss anything.
>>>>
>>>> http://www.expertvillage.com/video/4242_recording-studio-tra ining.htm
>>
>>>
>>>
>>
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Sat, 02 February 2008 12:31

Don Nafe

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haps THIS is the best of all...

http://www.prosoundandvideo.com/warrior.htm

:)

"Neil" <OIOI@OUI.com> wrote:
>
>I'm just listening on laptop speakers, so I can't tell; but if
>you can find any links to any music the guy has recorded, I'd
>LOOOOOVE to check it out on my monitors... I especially would
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>perhaps see what kind of results he gets with an SM-58 stuck =20
>"all the way in on a kick, with a... errr... with a, uhh,=20
>a 'deal' ".
>
>Someone should tell this guy not to take bongs hits before
>doing a video lesson.
>
>lol
>
>:D
>
>
>
>"Aaron Allen" <know-spam@not_here.dude> wrote:
>>did anyone else notice the audio really sucked on those clips?
>>AA
>>
>>"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote in message=20
>>news:4801b283$1@linux...
>>>
>>> Make sure you watch all the videos, you wouldn't want to miss =
anything.
>>>
>>> =
http://www.expertvillage.com/video/4242_recording-studio-tra ining.htm
>
>>
>>
>

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Sat, 02 February 2008 14:18

jim drago
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-87 vocal=20
mic.  Capitol Records uses this mic." Yes, only =
Capitol=20
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 clean, clear, warm, professional Recording, Mixing, PLUS =
 Mastering=20
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so you=20
hear and take home the big sound that day - radio ready, highest db

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Sat, 02 February 2008 15:06

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"Aaron Allen" <know-spam@not_here.dude> wrote:
>you asked.
>
>http://www.iamawarrior.com/
>
>AA
>
>"Neil" <OIOI@OUI.com> wrote in message news:48024699$1@linux...
>>
>> I'm just listening on laptop speakers, so I can't tell; but if
>> you can find any links to any music the guy has recorded, I'd
>> LOOOOOVE to check it out on my monitors... I especially would
>> be interested to hear how his "carderoid" mics sound - or
>> perhaps see what kind of results he gets with an SM-58 stuck
>> "all the way in on a kick, with a... errr... with a, uhh,
>> a 'deal' ".
>>
>> Someone should tell this guy not to take bongs hits before
>> doing a video lesson.
>>
>> lol
>>
>> :D
>>
>>
>>
>> "Aaron Allen" <know-spam@not_here.dude> wrote:
>>>did anyone else notice the audio really sucked on those clips?
>>>AA
>>>
>>>"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>>news:4801b283$1@linux...
>>>>
>>>> Make sure you watch all the videos, you wouldn't want to miss anything.
>>>>
>>>> http://www.expertvillage.com/video/4242_recording-studio-tra ining.htm
>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>
>Hey Chuck -

That functionality seems included in this Wiki (based on Onyx RSS). I'm
afraid I don't know much about it yet (never manually set up an RSS feed),
but I'm researching it right now. The issue doesn't seem uncrackable, I just
have to teach myself how.

Check back here for progress report.

- K

On 4/13/08 6:38 AM, in article 48020

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Sat, 02 February 2008 15:09

excelav

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ccb$1@linux, "chuck duffy" <c@c.com>
wrote:

>
> Kerry,
>
> On our product wiki at work, you can subscribe to the wiki via an RSS client
> to get the latest updates. I use sharpreader. I can't seem to be able to
> do that with the paris wiki. Maybe I'm just dumb. It's a great feature for
> a frequently updated wiki.
>
> ChuckYep.

"Teh stooopid - it burnnnnnnnssssss!"

- K :D

On 4/13/08 11:40 AM, in article 4802538f$1@linux, "Rod Lincoln"
<rlincoln@nospam.kc.com> wrote:

>
> good grief! It's spinal tap in reality!
> "Aaron Allen" <know-spam@not_here.dude> wrote:
>> you asked.
>>
>> http://www.iamawarrior.com/
>>
>> AA
>>
>> "Neil" <OIOI@OUI.com> wrote in message news:48024699$1@linux...
>>>
>>> I'm just listening on laptop speakers, so I can't tell; but if
>>> you can find any links to any music the guy has recorded, I'd
>>> LOOOOOVE to check it out on my monitors... I especially would
>>> be interested to hear how his "carderoid" mics sound - or
>>> perhaps see what kind of results he gets with an SM-58 stuck
>>> "all the way in on a kick, with a... errr... with a, uhh,
>>> a 'deal' ".
>>>
>>> Someone should tell this guy not to take bongs hits before
>>> doing a video lesson.
>>>
>>> lol
>>>
>>> :D
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> "Aaron Allen" <know-spam@not_here.dude> wrote:
>>>> did anyone else notice the audio really sucked on those clips?
>>>> AA
>>>>
>>>> "James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:4801b283$1@linux...
>>>>>
>>>>> Make sure you watch all the videos, you wouldn't want to miss anything.
>>>>>
>>>>> http://www.expertvillage.com/video/4242_recording-studio-tra ining.htm
>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>OK Chuck - I can now get this feed working in RSS Owl by pasting this URL
manually (sorry, it could be more elegant, but at least you should only have
to do it once); let me know if it works for you on sharpreader. Watch out
for the linewrap, of course.

http://www.kerrygalloway.com/WikiPARIS/wikka.php?wakka=Recen tChanges/recentc
hanges.xml

PS: I copied this thread into the Project group.

- Kerry

On 4/13/08 11:40 AM, in article C427A1B2.2C7E%

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Sat, 02 February 2008 15:25

Gantt Kushner

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?wakka=Recen tChanges/recentc
>hanges.xml
>
>PS: I copied this thread into the Project group.
>
>- Kerry
>
>On 4/13/08 11:40 AM, in article C427A1B2.2C7E%kg@kerrygalloway.com, "Kerry
>Galloway" <kg@kerrygalloway.com> wrote:
>
>> Hey Chuck -
>>
>> That functionality seems included in this Wiki (based on Onyx RSS). I'm
>> afraid I don't know much about it yet (never manually set up an RSS feed),
>> but I'm researching it right now. The issue doesn't seem uncrackable,
I just
>> have to teach myself how.
>>
>> Check back here for progress report.
>>
>> - K
>>
>>
>> On 4/13/08 6:38 AM, in article 48020ccb$1@linux, "chuck duffy" <c@c.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Kerry,
>>>
>>> On our product wiki at work, you can subscribe to the wiki via an RSS
client
>>> to get the latest updates. I use sharpreader. I can't seem to be able
to
>>> do that with the paris wiki. Maybe I'm just dumb. It's a great feature
for
>>> a frequently updated wiki.
>>>
>>> Chuck
>>
>i thought there was some projector in the van and the guy with the laser pen
was writing over what was projected on the building, so you could do it on
any building. What a killer way to guerrilla advertise. Find a place like
the Superbowl with 100,000 people and just project on a visible building
for 30 seconds. WOW"Aaron Allen" <know-spam@not_here.dude> wrote:
>you asked.
>
>http://www.iamawarrior.com/

OK, so I don't like it. Nonetheless, I just had a big flash of
guilt for making fun of the guy & it occurred to me that who am
I

Gantt Kushner
Gizmo Recording Company
Silver Spring, MD
www.gizmorecording.com

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Sat, 02 February 2008 15:26

Gantt Kushner

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to make fun of him... the guy's pushing 50 & he's living his
dream - owns his own studio & playin' in his metal band. Me,
I'm a slave to the steady paycheck & benefits & putting my
kid through college & all that kinda crap, and will never make
a living playing my music, which

Gantt Kushner
Gizmo Recording Company
Silver Spring, MD
www.gizmorecording.com

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Sat, 02 February 2008 15:35

excelav

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, being Prog-oriented, is just
as dinosaurish as his hairmetal. In other words, I realized
I'm probably the guy HE makes fun of! lol

So, sorry to all for being so petty in raking the guy over the
coals like that - his audio opinions notwithstanding.

NeilI went through that myself as I was watching this stuff. I felt bad but
then I thought about the people he's misleading and has taken money from and
found myself somewhat confused between humanity and truth... but still
feeling like it is a terrible disservice to the audio industry and I wonder
how many expectations and dreams have been crushed by dealing with this guy
and his company.

I wouldn't be a friend to anyone considering this 'service' if I didn't call
it out, yano? I don't begrudge the dude anything, and I hope he can continue
to do what he loves. He just needs to get more to the truth if he's gonna
charge people for it and call it professional.

AA

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>
> "Aaron Allen" <know-spam@not_here.dude> wrote:
>>you asked.
>>
>>http://www.iamawarrior.com/
>
>
> OK, so I don't like it. Nonetheless, I just had a big flash of
> guilt for making fun of the guy & it occurred to me that who am
> I to make fun of him... the guy's pushing 50 & he's living his
> dream - owns his own studio & playin' in his metal band. Me,
> I'm a slave to the steady paycheck & benefits & putting my
> kid through college & all that kinda crap, and will never make
> a living playing my music, which, being Prog-oriented, is just
> as dinosaurish as his hairmetal. In other words, I realized
> I'm probably the guy HE makes fun of! lol
>
> So, sorry to all for being so petty in raking the guy over the
> coals like that - his audio opinions notwithstanding.
>
> NeilI only glanced over it once but I thought I saw them pulling a detector unit
out to the parking lot, and a projector was in the van.
AA

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>
> i thought there was some projector in the van and the guy with the laser
> pen
> was writing over what was projected on the building, so you could do it on
> any building. What a killer way to guerrilla advertise. Find a place
> like

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Don Nafe

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> the Superbowl with 100,000 people and just project on a visible building
> for 30 seconds. WOWNope, it isn't that. I stick strictly to 44.100 on everything. That is the
first thing I changed when I installed Sonar... and everything is set to
44.100 in Paris. As I said, not a big deal on this file, but I hope I don't
run into this in future files. I make sure everything (setting and project)
is set to 44.100. I don't use 48k... although I noticed a difference in
file size, I could never really hear anything sonically different. That's
just my opinion, so I am sure others believe differently. Anyway, thanks
for all your help...

I will comment that I am having a real learning curve with Sonar 7.0. I
mean, there is nothing easy in this program. One of the things that interested
me in getting this was the built in drum program... Well, the help viseo
calls it one thing and the help files don't know what it is... and if you
scour the forums, they have different names... I was just trying to figure
out how to setup and simple drum beat for something. HA! Unlike their video
that makes it looks so easy, I have absolutely zero sound when I am placing
markers for the beats... but I have sound if I arm the midi track and hit
play. I am not even sure how to ask anyone to help me on that one... It
took me hours just figuring out how to track a simple acoustic... the record
button is almost greyed out and doesn't turn red until you hit it... how
stupid is that? It little things like that which is making me more frustrated.
It's almost like a music program written and designed by programmers, not
musicians or engineers... Well, I'll keep playing with it... I'll like to
find some basic 101 or 102 for using this thing... the forums are a bit
over my head... I don't do

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sequencing and midi.. so I am left in the dark
on most conversations....

"erlilo" <erlingl@tdcadsl.dk> wrote:
>If it's a 48 khz filetype, be sure the files isn't working as 44.1 khz in

>Sonar.
>A place in Sonar you can change the khz you wish to work with.
>If you have converted some files for use in Sonar,

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Don Nafe

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be sure they will have

>the same khz to work with, for both you and your son. It's normal the sound

>will be slowed down as you're saying, when playing back a 48 khz fil as

>44.1.
>
>Erling
>
>"Ed" <askme@email.com> skrev i en meddelelse news:47fdf6c9$1@linux...
>>
>> For those that attempted to help me, thank you. Just wanted to let you

>> know
>> that I switched the audio from WDM to ASIO and that cleared up my
>> click/pop/noise
>> issue. Sounds clear as a bell.
>>
>> I do have a strange issue with my sound files though... I recorded an

>> acoustic
>> in Paris. I converted the .paf to a .wav. I imported into Sonar... now
>> when I attempt to play along it is not the same tuning. It sounds like

>> it's
>> tuned down a 1/2 note or more. Is that normal? I never converted .paf

>> files
>> to place into other DAWs before and found that strange. Maybe something
>> else happened, I don't know, but the acoustic file is un-usable. No big
>> deal in this case... but I am hoping I don't have that problem alot.
My
>> son (who lives many miles away) and I plan to exchange files to build

>> songs...
>> but I guess converting them isn't a good idea... then, because of space,
>> we were planning to compress them to a .mp3 or something. Darn, this

>> little
>> project may not work then....
>><

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br /> >>
>>
>> "Ed" <askme@email.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>Folks, I know this group is for Paris, but I am working on a project and
>> I
>>>am having issues I am hoping someone can help or direct me to the right
>> place
>>>for help.
>>>
>>>Are there any Sonar gurus out there? What's going on is... I have a
few
>>>wav files that I imported into tracks in Sonar 7. When I play them back,
>>>I hear constant clicking, almost crackling on some of them. Especially
>> on
>>>one that is an acoustic recorded on a open mic. Almost sounds under
>>>water.
>>> I thought something had gone wrong with the files.
>>>
>>>So I imported them into Cubase (on the same notebook) and believe it or
>> not,
>>>they were clear! I also pulled each file up in Cool Edit and same
>>>results...
>>>clear as a bell.
>>>
>>>I went back to Sonar and tried to debug. Fir

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Don Nafe

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t;> coals like that - his audio opinions notwithstanding.
>>
>> Neil
>
>What would be a good Windows based Laptop to purchase? What kind of
ports,etc do you want to have for portable recording? I was thinking of
using Nuendo,and Wavelab....Also advice on a good ,interface maybe around
$500..? .Too bad you can't run PARIS on a laptop..Has anybody tried out realstrat? Thoughts?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kEsUS1AD8pE&feature=relat ed

Different version of Voodoo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x_E-rsKWq90

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NQfljbdDI_o&feature=relat ed

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JEqYXASY5Vo&feature=relat edFolks, I have to tell you about this new set of plugins I found by EMI (original
Abbey Road studios). I mainly use these on drums and they are so great!
I placed them on my drum tracks and didn't even have to adjust much... and
they take that rough acoustic noise in the drumset and remove it, compress
it along with the clashing cymbals... Just thought I'd share it with ye'all!Hi,

tonehouse wrote:
> What would be a good Windows based Laptop to purchase? What kind of
> ports,etc do you want to have for portable recording?

Intel CPU/chip set
Texas instruments firewire chip set

Are the biggest things to look for.
You want to avoid ones that use a Ricoh firewire/cardbus combo controller.
Which most of the cheap ones.

I was thinking of
> using Nuendo,an

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Sat, 02 February 2008 17:27

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ell, I think we all laughed with you... Yeah, he's playing and living
>his musical dream... but man, he is foolishly displaying things that embarrass
>most of us. I mean, I could make a website displaying my songs and claim
>my studio is as good as the pros... but I would feel so stupid, and I am
>sure most of you would laugh! So I mainly keep my stuff to myself and my
>wife. Only she gets to laugh... lol. Actually, she participates, so she
>can't laugh too much...
>
> Or, this guy really believes what he is saying.... lol.
>
>
>
>>dream - owns his own studio & playin' in his metal band. Me,
>>I'm a slave to the steady paycheck & benefits & putting my
>>kid through college & all that kinda crap, and will never make
>>a living playing my music, which, being Prog-oriented, is just
>>as dinosaurish as his hairmetal. In other words, I realized
>>I'm probably the guy HE makes fun of! lol
>>
>>So, sorry to all for being so petty in raking the guy over the
>>coals like that - his audio opinions notwithstanding.
>>
>>Neilthe 2005 is the best compressor i have ever used period and i've tried about
20. it easily lets me smash the dynamics of bass, vocals, kick, snare, gunshot,
you name it to whatever dynamic you want without ANY work while preserving
the tone. WOW WOW WOW

loving itFunny; I was just using that this morning in the studio on an HD rig, and I
come here and it's a topic.

Stick it on a bus and blend it up underneath an unprocessed Music Man bass -
feels like a steel ball wrapped in a thick layer of hard rubber bouncing off
a stone wall. Wicked awesome.

- KerryMostly what Chris said, but a few caveats. I still think it's worth it to
go with a 'real' video card with its own memory. Shared memory isn't the
horrible penalty it once was but just anecdotally laptops with real video
memory seem both snappier with audio and more stable.

For the interface I'd go USB. I don't like the non-cardbus options (and you'll
likely be getting a non-cardbus laptop) and people seem to have the devil's
problems getting fw interface to work with laptops. I have a $300 M-Audio
USB interface and it works great. Ditto my fancy Native Instruments DJ interface.

You need to be more diligent with laptops on the backup and security front.
Your locked front door adds a level of security to your desktop that you
won't have with a portable. Be more careful about private data and think
about some amount of disk encryption and maybe password protected VMs for
checking email and surfing.

I bought a fancy Dell a few months ago. After getting it

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That probably puts a lot of ppl out of the 'demo our stuff' group. IMO, =
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> AA
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>> Can you post a link? Maybe some samples?
>>
>> "Ed" <askme@email.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>Folks, I have to tell you about this new set of plugins I found by =
EMI=20
>>>(original
>>>Abbey Road studios). I mainly use these on drums and they are so =
great!
>>> I placed them on my drum tracks and didn't even have to adjust =
much...
>> and
>>>they take that rough acoustic noise in the drumset and remove it, =
compress
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>>>ye'all!
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y to your desktop that you
> won't have with a portable. Be more careful about private data and think
> about some amount of disk encryption and maybe password protected VMs for
> checking email and surfing.
>
> I bought a fancy Dell a few months ago. After getting it seriously tricked
> out (17" screen, tons o' ram, etc.) it was around $1100. You can cut a few
> corners and get in for less.
>
> TCB
>
> "tonehouse" <zmcleod@comcast.net> wrote:
> >What would be a good Windows based Laptop to purchase? What kind of
> >ports,etc do you want to have for portable recording? I was thinking of
> >using Nuendo,and Wavelab....Also advice on a good ,interface maybe around
> >$500..? .Too bad you can't run PARIS on a laptop..
> >
> >
>Kerry,
....feels like a steel ball wrapped in a thick layer of hard rubber bouncing
off
>a stone wall. Wicked awesome.

Yeah right!, that is just a perfect description of one of my goals in life
-to achieve maximum benefit from "the bass tone." That is poetry man. Freakin'
poetry. Thank you. MRGlad you liked the simile; you'll like the next part even more - the Music
Man (not mine, btw) had the deadest strings I've ever heard on a bass
manufactured after the 1960s.And you know how much of an impediment dead
strings are to getting "there" (although they can certainly get you to other
cool places).

I actually asked Warren (engineer and owner of said bass) if he'd been
rubbing butter, or maybe fried chicken, on the strings for mojo. Didn't get
around to trying my own basses on it yet, that's when I suspect the
fireworks might start.

Two thumb

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> > Freakin'
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>
>Me thinks so too. I would love to demo this, but I don't want to buy an Ilock
to do it.
Rod
"Aaron Allen" <know-spam@not_here.dude> wrote:
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>
>http://www.youtube.com/abbeyroadplugins
>
>Might mention this little snag:=20
>
>http://www.abbeyroadplugins.com/downloads.aspx
>Our plug-ins require iLok authorization in order to be used.
>
>http://www.abbeyroadplugins.com/product_demos.aspx
>
>Demo authorizations are required to evaluate Abbey Road plug-ins. Please
=
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=
>You will receive a confirmation email and a free 20-day demo license for
=
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>iLok.com account, please visit http://www.ilok.com/ to create one.
>
>That probably puts a lot of ppl out of the 'demo our stuff' group. IMO,
=
>ARP's bad.=20
>
>AA
>
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>> AA
>>=20
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>>> Can you post a link? Maybe some samples?
>>>
>>> "Ed" <

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>>
>>Might mention this little snag:=20
>>
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>>
>>http://www.abbeyroadplugins.com/product_demos.aspx
>>
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>=
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>=
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>>
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>>ARP's bad.=20
>>
>>AA
>>
>>"Aaron Allen" <know-spam@not_here.dude> wrote in message =
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>>>=20
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>>great!
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>>much...
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>>compress
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