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OT Cubase clock/sync/start up question [message #89941] Tue, 18 September 2007 13:35 Go to next message
Tom Bruhl is currently offline  Tom Bruhl   UNITED STATES
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> Gene
>

Gene, I don't know that it sounds better. It does sound a bit different as
the converters on the boxes add their own character. The dinosaur converters
in that old R-880,the PCM-91 and the Sony can add some flavor to a track or
a group. The reason I'm doiing it is primarily because I integrate so many
other outboard devices into my mixes that don't have digital options and
keeping as much of my signal path digital as possible (especially parallel
send FX that will process multiple tracks) when integrating 8-10 (or more)
analog processors and the AD/DA conversions this involves give be a bit more
openness when the entire mix is summed. There is a bit of apparent veiling,
especially using the AD/DA's of the Lexi PCM-91.

As far as syncing the MADI to external WC, I'm sure it can be done. People
do it all the time on the Nuendo forum. that's MADILAND if you're needing
questions answered. For some reason, I've got some kind of problem though.
I'm currently using two 75 ohm BNC cables for my to/from the ADI 648 and the
MADI card. I'm going to order a duplex optical MADI cable and see if this
changes some things. There's a lot of stuff clocked here and I'm still
trying to get my head around how the MADI card converses with the ADI 648.
There are a few variables that are possible and this could be the reason.

Using the MADI card as master isn't a problem for me. The clock is excellent
and the syncing of all these devices is rock solid )pretty miraculous
considering the number I'm using). I needed to get this system up and
running this weekend and I don't have time for more experimentation right
now. If I get this resolved, I'll let you know.

Deej"John" <no@no.com> wrote in message news:471b3cad$1@linux...
>
> Now show me an album from it !

........................soon..................

;o)"DJ" <animix _ at _ animas _ dot _ net> wrote:
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>"Gene Lennon" <glennon@NOSpammyrealbox.com> wrote in message
>news:471b6c9d$1@linux...
>>
>> Thanks for the info. It does put somewhat of a damper on my plans based
on
>> the clock issues with MADI, but it sounds very powerful.
>> Are you sure that running the RME ADI 8-DD format/sample rate converters
>> I/O to the effects sounds better than running analog? I would like your

>> opinion.
>>
>> Cool setup.
>>
>> Gene
>>
>
>Gene, I don't know that it sounds better. It does sound a bit different
as
>the converters on the boxes add their own character. The dinosaur converters

>in that old R-880,the PCM-91 and the Sony can add some flavor to a track
or
>a group. The reason I'm doiing it is primarily because I integrate so many

>other outboard devices into my mixes that don't have digital options and

>keeping as much of my signal path digital as possible (especially parallel

>send FX that will process multiple tracks) when integrating 8-10 (or more)

>analog processors and the AD/DA conversions this involves give be a bit
more
>openness when the entire mix is summed. There is a bit of apparent veiling,

>especially using the AD/DA's of the Lexi PCM-91.


OK, so you've got the samplerate issue covered with the (ahem!)
Behringer convertors, but what about bitstream rate? If you're
recording at 24 bits, and some of the older convertors on your
outboard gear are 12 or 16 bits, does that make any difference?
From a technical point of view, I mean.

NeilAll of my outboard processors
Re: OT Cubase clock/sync/start up question [message #89946 is a reply to message #89941] Tue, 18 September 2007 16:11 Go to previous messageGo to next message
EK Sound is currently offline  EK Sound   CANADA
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>>>"Gene Lennon" <glennon@NOSpammyrealbox.com> wrote in message
>>>news:471b6c9d$1@linux...
>>>>
>>>> Thanks for the info. It does put somewhat of a damper on my plans based
>> on
>>>> the clock issues with MADI, but it sounds very powerful.
>>>> Are you sure that running the RME ADI 8-DD format/sample rate
>>>> converters
>>>> I/O to the effects sounds better than running analog? I would like your
>>
>>>> opinion.
>>>>
>>>> Cool setup.
>>>>
>>>> Gene
>>>>
>>>
>>>Gene, I don't know that it sounds better. It does sound a bit different
>> as
>>>the converters on the boxes add their own character. The dinosaur
>>>c
Re: OT Cubase clock/sync/start up question [message #89955 is a reply to message #89946] Tue, 18 September 2007 22:10 Go to previous message
Tom Bruhl is currently offline  Tom Bruhl   UNITED STATES
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ed(I
>>>>>>>>> wanted
>>>>>>> more
>>>>>>>>> real world looking faders)..
>>>>>>>>> That being stated, the program (@1.0) is a dream for me.. I'm an
>>>>>>>>> old
>>>>> Logic
>>>>>>>>> head and got dismayed with apps lagging audio editing and
>>>>>>>>> recording
>>>>>>>>> functionality..
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Apple has answered the bell.. At first , i didnot think i'd like
>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>> one
>>>>>>>>> screen thing..But, I'm a fan.. You can still run muti monitors in
>>> Logic
>>>>>>> 8,
>>>>>>>>> but the one screen thing is very cool..
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> The editing is very fast..quicker than Pro Tools..2 clicks away
>>>>>>>>> from
>>>>>>>>> Nuendo/Cubase..
>>>>>>>>> Somehow, apple has managed to keep intact it's (Still) Best Midi
>>>>>>>>> Sequencer
>>>>>>>>> in the world feel, and tightness that only an Akai MPC can come
>>>>>>>>> close
>>>>>>> 2..
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Sound: I have to agree with most logic 8 reviews..The Sound has
>>>>>>>>> improved.
>>>>>>>>> More, dare I say Pro Tool(ish)...SBut, still a tight bottom...
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> The fact that when I plumped down to test this rig, it was already
>>> running
>>>>>>>>> a dvd(School Of Rock) and several safarie web pages.. Its still
>>>>>>>>> playing
>>>>>>>>> while
>>>>>>>>> I'm typing this post..
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Back to Logic 8..They also, keep the tight integration with Digi
>>>>>>>>> in
>>>>> that
>>>>>>>>> you can use your TDM hardware and use logic as a front
>>>>>>>>> end..Sweet..
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> To be honest, I could start a project (Midi-wise) and go to
>>>>>>>>> tracking
>>>>>>>>> audio/edit...Then,
>>>>>>>>> mix in this app.. Things can only get better, as I have stated ,
>>>>>>>>> this
>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>>>> only version 1.0..OH.. NO CRASHES..!!! Torturing this baby for 2
>>>>>>>>> hours
>>>>>>>>> straight..
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Another cool part of the bundle is : Main-stage: I realy can't
>>>>>>>>> explain
>>>>>>>>> this
>>>>>>>>> app, but it's a kind of a shell (Say V-Stack) for live playing of
>>> virtual
>>>>>>>>> instruments with having logic running..
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I'm told by the in-store Logic/Final Cut pro rep, that Logic will
>>> get
>>>>>>> a 30
>>>>>>>>> percent boost in performance in Lepoard oxs..Sweet..
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Lastly, These new machines already had boot camp loaded with XP
>>>>>>>>> Pro
>>>>> Sp2.
>>>>>>>>> To me, for audio pros, Getting a Mac is a good purchase. No matter
>>> how
>>>>>>> you
>>>>>>>>> cut it.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Impressed!!
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>unless you need to edit them why not convert to them to audio?
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