| G4 [message #94005] |
Tue, 25 December 2007 09:46  |
ulfiyya
Messages: 25
Registered: July 2005
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friendly guy who has a
> good time dancing and telling jokes. They are having
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| Re: G4 [message #94028 is a reply to message #94007] |
Tue, 25 December 2007 17:20  |
Paul Braun
Messages: 391
Registered: September 2005
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ect, I think RME's total mix should be simplified
> like
>>Motu's MkIII DSP cue mixer app. Simple, yet very powerful.
>>
>>Now look at all of us-you who have stayed on the PC/Mac upgrade bandwagon.
>>Spent $$$ major money chasing the zero latency Native dream..Only to run
>>into the win XP/Vista brick wall of doom..
>>The lie of the 64 bit dream.. Dual core this and that..SHAM!!!
>>
>>My Win ME Paris (4 card) rig still is as stable as it ever was.
>>
>>All in all, it's your money, spend it how you may, but one thing is for
> sure,
>>If are working on a major lable recording, it better be delivered in
>>ProTools..
>>You want a job working a sudio or media house, you better know Pro Tools..
>>
>>So, we can sit hear discussing Native torture test wasting time(IMHO) when
>>a vialble solution is already on the market that can be had these days for
>>under 10k..belive it or not.hat yields a very polished
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| Re: G4 [message #94033 is a reply to message #94032] |
Wed, 26 December 2007 03:38 |
Colin Simpson
Messages: 19
Registered: March 2008
Location: Australia
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reports on Nuendo performance is quite a bit faster on XP and
>>>> ASIO2, but it's running fine at low latency on
>>>> OSX/core audio - just about 20-30% higher (my adjusted
>>>> estimate) plugin load on the same hardware, same latency: it's really
>>
>>>> 76 Nuendo multiband comps at 64 samples on XP/ASIO, vs 45 on OSX/core
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>>>> audio at 64, which is almost 50% more, but I'm assuming there are
>>>> other plugins in that benchmark test to compensate for, and vary part
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>>>> of that loading (I'll have to find out for sure when I have more time)
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>>>> - same dual quad hardware configs in both cases. I don't know for
>>>> sure if some of this is Nuendo not being optimized for the lower level
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>>>> OSX code base (maybe already), or still on Cocoa or whatever - or if
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>>>> it is truly a limitation of OSX and core audio. Based on the Logic
>>>> thread, the latter seems to have a bit more weight than it being a
>>>> Nuendo-only performance issue.
>>>>
>>>> Fwiw,
>>>> Dedric
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>--
>>>Chris Ludwig
>>>ADK
>>>chrisl@adkproaudio.com <mailto:chrisl@adkproaudio.com>
>>>www.adkproaudio.com <http://www.adkproaudio.com/>
>>>(859) 635-5762
>>
>Hey ..the RME /Steinberg route is very nice and very Powerful. I think that
you need to redo y
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| Re: G4 [message #94048 is a reply to message #94033] |
Wed, 26 December 2007 12:54 |
excelav
Messages: 2130
Registered: July 2005
Location: Metro Detroit
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gins on that baby. So, Getting a ProTools HD rig is not 'So Closed"
> as
>>>>some here believes.
>>>>
>>>>Back to the subject:
>>>>If you were to do a search on Gearslutz on the symphony, yoou'd see that
>>>>I slammed that card saying that "for a 1k or even 700 dollars, "What am
>>> I
>>>>getting".. No DSP, nothing but a glorified half baked mixer that allows
>>> you
>>>>to play itunes .. Not impressed.
>>>>
>>>>While we're onthe subject, I think RME's total mix should be simplified
>>> like
>>>>Motu's MkIII DSP cue mixer app. Simple, yet very powerful.
>>>>
>>>>Now look at all of us-you who have stayed on the PC/Mac upgrade
>>>>bandwagon.
>>>>Spent $$$ major money chasing the zero latency Native dream..Only to run
>>>>into the win XP/Vista brick wall of doom..
>>>>The lie of the 64 bit dream.. Dual core this and that..SHAM!!!
>>>>
>>>>My Win ME Paris (4 card) rig still is as stable as it ever was.
>>>>
>>>>All in all, it's your money, spend it how you may, but one thing is for
>>> sure,
>>>>If are working on a major lable recording, it better be delivered in
>>>>ProTools..
>>>>You want a job working a sudio or media house, you better know Pro
>>>>Tools..
>>>>
>>>>So, we can sit hear discussing Native torture test wasting time(IMHO)
> when
>>>>a vialble solution is already on the market that can be had these days
> for
>>>>under 10k..belive it or not.hat yields a very polished sound, very very
>>> flexible
>>>>i/o routing for hardware owners..super low-latency that allows you to
>
>>>>track
>>>>and mixrealtime live sessions..and oh yeah.. Super stable..
>>>>
>>>>So, just look at the reciepts from the last 5 years on or Native Dream
>
>>>>journey
>>>>and add em up. Then, add up all those clients who utter that all
>>>>familiar
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| Re: G4 [message #94072 is a reply to message #94048] |
Thu, 27 December 2007 03:01 |
rick
Messages: 1976
Registered: February 2006
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ave lost about $100K in
yet
>>
>>>more useless obsolete basement clogging shit.I have no regrets in
>>>following
>>
>>>RME/Steinberg.It works for me.
>>>"TCB" <nobody@ishere.com> wrote in message news:47c57a5a$1@linux...
>>>>
>>>> Glad I still get name checked every now and then ;-)
>>>>
>>>> I still think native is the way to go unless someone is running a big
>> for
>>>> hire room, and let's face it more of those are shutting down than
>>>> starting
>>>> up.
>>>>
>>>> One thing about the RME mixer, it shouldn't be changed at all. It's
the
>>
>>>> most
>>>> flexible, powerful audio interface mixer I've ever seen. It's incredibly
>>>> easy to use, just a little tricky to learn. I'll take that over a
>>>> photorealistic
>>>> mixer that's less powerful any day.
>>>>
>>>> Then again, I'm a linux geek. Then again, so are the RME guys.
>>>>
>>>> TCB
>>>>
>>>> "LaMont" <jjdpro@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>Thank you Chris for stating what I have been saying for years now.
>>>>>
>>>>>All this tech talk :($$$$$$$$$$) about low latency on native solutions,
>>>> is
>>>>>very costly AND, I might add, as Thad has said on numerous ocassions,
>> have
>>>>>gained nothing!! due to that fact that we are all beholding to MS
>>>>>Vista/XP
>>>>>and OSX..
>>>>>
>>>>>On the Nuendo.com website 10 mile post on system performance specs is
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>>>>>sickening!.
>>>>>Who cares? All, one should want is
>>>>>
>>>>>A stable running system, that performes the task thats needed.
>>>>>
>>>>>I'm with the get Protools HD(X) and be done with it. There are those
on
>>>> this
>>>>>and other sites how have sunk major$$$$ trying to "perice-Mill_ a
>>>>>working
>>>>>DAW hat outperforms ProTools HD. That's cool, but I would these folks
>> have
>>>>>spent "More" money than just buying a super hot-rod ProTo
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