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| 240v to 110v ? [message #84635] |
Tue, 15 May 2007 22:21  |
Tom Bruhl
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ir and breast reduction. You may know refer
to him as Neil instead of Nell.
Mr Banana
"Sarah" <sarahjane@sarahtonin.com> wrote in message news:466f87cb@linux...
> Uh . . . Neil's the one with the tattoo and the chain, right?
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> "Paul Braun" <cygnus_nospam@ctgonline.org> wrote in message
> news:cmsu63pll2lh1rk4a69rcr35l7l04iolpo@4ax.com...
>> www.laidbak.com/ebay/paris/album/index.html
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>> New pix from Dave EK, Neil, and a couple more from Rod.
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>> Enjoy!
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>> pab
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>I've tried this twice here - no end result... always crapped
out before it got beyond a couple of parts. Deej tried it too,
I think - or if not him it was someone else who initiated
another one.
Neil
"Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote:
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>I remember a couple of years back a bunch of guys off here were starting
>to record something by posting disks around...
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>...did anything get finished? I never heard anything.
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>Cheers,
>Kim."Sarah" <sarahjane@sarahtonin.com> wrote:
>Hey, don't make me come over there, mister . . . I can turn a
>knob if I have to, and you won't like it one bit.
My last girlfriend told me that a couple months ago.
She was right, too!
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| Re: 240v to 110v ? [message #84637 is a reply to message #84635] |
Tue, 15 May 2007 23:02  |
Kim
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ow what that means. :)
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> "Bill L" <bill@billlorentzen.com> wrote in message news:466f4a46@linux...
>> Oh so the little lady didn't want to get her fingers dirty pushing some
>> buttons and "Oh, no!" turning a knob! Women!!!
>>
>> Sarah wrote:
>>> Yeah, the midi fader sets the intial volume, but then the contol changes
>>> override
>>> it. I was trying to avoid changing the volume in the synth module (I
>>> hate
>>> the staring at the little window while I push the cursor buttons and roll
>>> the data wheel), but that is what I wound up doing.
>>>
>>> Thanks all, for the advices.
>>>
>>> S
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Bill L <bill@billlorentzen.com> wrote:
>>>> You should have a MIDI fader option on the left of the track. Or you
>>>> could just turn down the output vol of the synthesizer. ;-)
>>>>
>>>> Sarah wrote:
>>>>> OK, I was fine tuning an little MIDI arrangement in Cubase (v.5) and I
>>> had
>>>>> this track with some continuous controller data (specifically, some
>>>>> ramping
>>>>> up and down of the master volume). All I wanted to do was select all
>>> of
>>>>> that data and change the value of it, i.e., to turn down the overall
>>>>> volume
>>>>> but retain the ups and downs. I tried different approaches and could
>>> only
>>>>> change the value of one piece of the ramp at a time. There must be a
>>> way to
>>>>> raise or lower the whole thing, right? What am I missing here?
>>>>>
>>>>> I miss my Hybrid Arts SMPTE-
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| Re: 240v to 110v ? [message #84638 is a reply to message #84637] |
Tue, 15 May 2007 23:29 |
Tom Bruhl
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Track. Simple, intuitive, reliable . . .
>>> hmm .
>>>>> . . I do still have my Atari 1040 ST . . .
>>>>>
>>>>> Sarah
>>>>>
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>A metal band? Really? I would have thought they were something more like a
Bee Gees tribute band.
We know which one's you, silly. You're the one who could be the others'
father. :D (or mother, according to Aaron)
S
"Neil" <OIOIU@OIU.com> wrote in message news:466f9af6$1@linux...
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> "Sarah" <sarahjane@sarahtonin.com> wrote:
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>>Uh . . . Neil's the one with the tattoo and the chain, right?
>
> Look, this is real easy, guys & gals - this is a Metal band, as
> I'm sure you can tell from the pic (check variations of garb,
> posing, & hairstyles for confirmation)... hence, it pretty much
> goes without saying that I am the only one wearing something
> other than black, or a gradient shade of black, for upper-body-
> wear.
>
> Sheesh!
>
> NeilActually, it looks more like a hostage situation. If you are expecting
your "Paris family" to come up with a million bucks or some crap like
that... Dream on, Neil.
Bill L wrote:
> Neil, are you married? 'Cause two guys in that band are putting horns on
> you, dude! You gotta watch out with other musicians and *your* woman.
>
> Paul Braun wrote:
>> www.laidbak.com/ebay/paris/album/index.html
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>> New pix from Dave EK, Neil, and a couple more from Rod.
>>
>> Enjoy!
>>
>> pab"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
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>"TCB" <nobody@ishere.com> wrote:
>>
>>This slashdot article has links
>>
>>http://apple.slashdot.org/apple/07/06/12/0120230.shtml
>>
>>It's not surprising that Apple would be unprepared for the kind of scrutiny
>>they will get on the security front releasing Windows software, especially
>>a browser. They've been living in a 'security by obscurity' bubble for
some
>>time now, allowed to make outlandish claims about Apple security and safety.
>>The Larlhom blog was slashdotted into oblivion but I had a friend send
it.
>>
>
>Dude there is nothing outlandish about Apple security! I've never had
a
>virus, worm, hack or anything else in 14 years on Macs! Can you say that?
For the servers I administer and the desktops/laptops I've owned, yes I can
say that.
TCB
>>
>>If they want a real presence on windows for their browser they'll have
to
>>learn how to manage this stuff. The Mozilla/Firefox group had their teething
>>pains as well, but then again they were free software so could leverage
>both
>>goodwill and lots of coders to get up to snuff fast.
>>
>>TCB
>>
>>"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>If this is really true, they will have to fix this quick.
>>>
>>>"TCB" <nobody@ishere.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>Windows security guys are finding 'drive a truck through it' security
>holes
>>>>in Win Safari. And these are stack overflows and heap corruption, the
>bad
>>>>stuff. If any windows users want a closed source browser that's not IE
>>I'd
>>>>strongly suggest Opera. Bruce Schneier uses it. 'Nuff said.
>>>>
>>>>TCB
>>>>
>>>>"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>Did you actually try Safari? What did you find buggy about it? Can
>you
>>>>be
>>>>>specific? What you are finding as bugs, might just be the way it works.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>A example of something that people might consider to be buggy, is the
>>way
>>>>>bookmarks are arranged. The book marks are added to the bottom of the
>>>list
>>>>>when you add a new bookmark. You can drag bookmarks and folders up
and
>>>>down,
>>>>>but you can't simply arrange them in alphabetical order in one click.
>>
>>>At
>>>>>least I haven't found a way. It's a PITA to manually arrange them when
>>>>you
>>>>>have a lot of bookmarks.
>>>>>
>>>>>"LaMont" <jjdpro@ameritech.net> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Nice..But, a little buggy. That's to be expected from a beta. Reminds
>>>me
>>>>>when
>>>>>>itunes was first introduced , buggy, but now a pretty good player..
>>>>>>
>>>>>>I can't and don't see why Apple just won;t Pull the trigger and release
>>>>>OS-X
>>>>>>for any PC ..Give us an alternative without having to re-purchase a
>PC/Mac..
>>>>>>
>>>>>>"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Leopard is really looking cool, and it's still only $129.00. Safari
>>>>is
>>>>>>now
>>>>>>>on Windows. Apple is making some moves. More to come!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> http://www.engadget.com/2007/06/11/steve-jobs-live-from-wwdc -2007/
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>Jamie K <Meta@Dimensional.com> wrote:
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>Safari is built on Konqueror, which is open source.
Can I download the source to Safari? Of course not, Apple uses very specific
pieces of K code licensed under the LGPL and locks the rest behind a vault.
Some code is merged back into the K tree but most is not. So if the security
problems are in Apple's code only Apple can fix it.
>Apple has already shipped internet software for MSWindows: iTunes. Not
>to mention Quicktime. So they do have a bit of experience.
A media player ain't a web browser, even if it does connect to a network.
>The MSWindows release of Safari is a _beta release_, which means it is
>not assumed to be production ready. Use at your own risk.
Which is precisely what I said in my first post, probably best to wait. And
btw, I don't think beta software has a right to have massive security problems.
Bugs, crashes, trouble with odd hardware is one thing, code injection, stack
overflows and such are very different.
>The guy reporting the problems discussed at slashdot declined to report
>them to Apple. He's being criticized for that, but whatever.
Which has nothing to do with whether it's a good idea to use an insecure
browser. Personally I don't think people who discover bugs in proprietary
software are bound to reveal them, I think it's a good idea in most cases,
but I don't think it's compelling.
>As beta problems ARE reported, the expectation (of a normal develpment
>cycle) is that they will be addressed by Apple before the final
>MSWindows release.
>
>So bash away and report any bugs you find IF you want to participate in
>the beta - or wait for the final release if you don't.
I wasn't bashing away at anything. Every piece of Apple software for Windows
I've ever dealt with has had major growing pains. The first version if quicktime,
the first version if itun
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| Re: 240v to 110v ? [message #84639 is a reply to message #84637] |
Tue, 15 May 2007 23:49 |
Tom Bruhl
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es, and so on. In those situations, it was just
bad software that crashed a lot, and they eventually fixed thing. I have
itunes on one of my XP machines for the internet radio. But a browser is
one of the preferred ways for crackers to do really, really bad things to
a machine without the user doing anything especially stupid. So I was warning
people that within hours of the beta being out there some really serious
problems were coming up. I also suggested that for people who don't want
to use IE (which I applaud) and for some reason don't want to use firefox,
Opera is an excellent alternative.
TCB
>Cheers,
> -Jamie
> www.JamieKrutz.com
>
>
>TCB wrote:
>> This slashdot article has links
>>
>> http://apple.slashdot.org/apple/07/06/12/0120230.shtml
>>
>> It's not surprising that Apple would be unprepared for the kind of scrutiny
>> they will get on the security front releasing Windows software, especially
>> a browser. They've been living in a 'security by obscurity' bubble for
some
>> time now, allowed to make outlandish claims about Apple security and safety.
>> The Larlhom blog was slashdotted into oblivion but I had a friend send
it.
>>
>>
>> If they want a real presence on windows for their browser they'll have
to
>> learn how to manage this stuff. The Mozilla/Firefox group had their teething
>> pains as well, but then again they were free software so could leverage
both
>> goodwill and lots of coders to get up to snuff fast.
>>
>> TCB
>>
>> "James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>> If this is really true, they will have to fix this quick.
>>>
>>> "TCB" <nobody@ishere.com> wrote:
>>>> Windows security guys are finding 'drive a truck through it' security
holes
>>>> in Win Safari. And these are stack overflows and heap corruption, the
bad
>>>> stuff. If any windows users want a closed source browser that's not
IE
>> I'd
>>>> strongly suggest Opera. Bruce Schneier uses it. 'Nuff said.
>>>>
>>>> TCB
>>>>
>>>> "James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> Did you actually try Safari? What did you find buggy about it? Can
you
>>>> be
>>>>> specific? What you are finding as bugs, might just be the way it works.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> A example of something that people might consider to be buggy, is the
>> way
>>>>> bookmarks are arranged. The book marks are added to the bottom of
the
>>> list
>>>>> when you add a new bookmark. You can drag bookmarks and folders up
and
>>>> down,
>>>>> but you can't simply arrange them in alphabetical order in one click.
>>
>>> At
>>>>> least I haven't found a way. It's a PITA to manually arrange them
when
>>>> you
>>>>> have a lot of bookmarks.
>>>>>
>>>>> "LaMont" <jjdpro@ameritech.net> wrote:
>>>>>> Nice..But, a little buggy. That's to be expected from a beta. Reminds
>>> me
>>>>> when
>>>>>> itunes was first introduced , buggy, but now a pretty good player..
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I can't and don't see why Apple just won;t Pull the trigger and release
>>>>> OS-X
>>>>>> for any PC ..Give us an alternative without having to re-purchase
a PC/Mac..
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> Leopard is really looking cool, and it's still only $129.00. Safari
>>>> is
>>>>>> now
>>>>>>> on Windows. Apple is making some moves. More to come!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> http://www.engadget.com/2007/06/11/steve-jobs-live-from-wwdc -2007/
>>I can't believe you found a picture of me :-)
Chuck
Paul Braun <cygnus_nospam@ctgonline.org> wrote:
>www.laidbak.com/ebay/paris/album/index.html
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>New pix from Dave EK, Neil, and a couple more from Rod.
>
>Enjoy!
>
>pabHis whole mindset is that the plugins have more headroom and sound better
when the tracks aren't as hot. I was just wondering what everyone else thought.
Rod
By the way, the reason this thread went astray IS BECAUSE OF SARAH! IT'S
HER FAULT!
;-)
"Neil" <OIUOIU@OIU.com> wrote:
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>"Sarah" <sarahjane@sarahtonin.com> wrote:
>>Ooo . . . a Hot Snortyhorse . . . excuse me . . . I need to get some air
> .
>
>Sticking to the original topic of the thread, I have noticed
>when I've done projects in PTHD (at another facility, since I
>don't have PT here) the channels tend to redlight pretty
>easily - hence, when I've imported PT tracks to SX, the levels
>seem to be a lot lower than what I would normally record at,
>were I recording in SX or Paris. So, is PT more peak-sensitive?
>If so could this be part of the problem? IOW, the guy's just
>not used to seeing stuff go to track that hot?
>
>NeilTCB wrote:
> Jamie K <Meta@Dimensional.com> wrote:
>> Safari is built on Konqueror, which is open source.
>
> Can I download the source to Safari? Of course not, Apple uses very specific
> pieces of K code licensed under the LGPL and locks the rest behind a vault.
> Some code is merged back into the K tree but most is not. So if the security
> problems are in Apple's code only Apple can fix it.
If so, presumably they will fix it, in due course, during the beta phase.
>> Apple has already shipped internet software for MSWindows: iTunes. Not
>> to mention Quicktime. So they do have a bit of experience.
>
> A media player ain't a web browser, even if it does connect to a network.
I didn't make that claim. I said it's internet software, which it is.
>
>> The MSWindows release of Safari is a _beta release_, which means it is
>> not assumed to be production ready. Use at your own risk.
>
> Which is precisely what I said in my first post, probably best to wait. And
> btw, I don't think beta software has a right to have massive security problems.
> Bugs, crashes, trouble with odd hardware is one thing, code injection, stack
> overflows and such are very different.
Having been in my share of development cycles, beta software knows no
"rights" when it comes to wrongs. :^)
But if you want to criticize Apple's in-house alpha cycle for not
catching enough stuff, that's fine.
And if you want to use the stock "security through obscurity" claim in
every Apple thread, that's fine, too. Although it ignores some of
Apple's actual security efforts and glosses over their rather impressive
results with a vague wave of the hand.
>> The guy reporting the problems discussed at slashdot declined to report
>
>> them to Apple. He's being criticized for that, but whatever.
>
> Which has nothing to do with whether it's a good idea to use an insecure
> browser. Personally I don't think people who discover bugs in proprietary
> software are bound to reveal them, I think it's a good idea in most cases,
> but I don't think it's compelling.
Like I said, he has his reasons so whatever. I didn't criticize him but
some of the folks on slashdot got on his case about it.
I figure someone will report it along with other bugs. It's early in the
beta, a lot of people are using the software and some of them are making
the effort to report bugs.
>> As beta problems ARE reported, the expectation (of a normal develpment
>> cycle) is that they will be addressed by Apple before th
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| Re: 240v to 110v ? [message #84640 is a reply to message #84639] |
Wed, 16 May 2007 00:22 |
Kim
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e final
>> MSWindows release.
>>
>> So bash away and report any bugs you find IF you want to participate in
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>> the beta - or wait for the final release if you don't.
>
> I wasn't bashing away at anything.
I'm not referring to bashing away at Apple. What I mean is: bash away at
the software. It's a beta, that's what it's for. If anyone wants to test
it, test it. Put it through its paces, do your worst, and when you find
a problem that you would like to see fixed, report it.
> Every piece of Apple software for Windows
> I've ever dealt with has had major growing pains. The first version if quicktime,
> the first version if itunes, and so on.
Maybe that's why they released this one as a beta FIRST, to give you or
others a chance to find problems BEFORE releasing a dot zero version.
> In those situations, it was just
> bad software that crashed a lot, and they eventually fixed thing.
Bad is bad. Fixed is good. :^)
> I have
> itunes on one of my XP machines for the internet radio. But a browser is
> one of the preferred ways for crackers to do really, really bad things to
> a machine without the user doing anything especially stupid. So I was warning
> people that within hours of the beta being out there some really serious
> problems were coming up. I also suggested that for people who don't want
> to use IE (which I applaud) and for some reason don't want to use firefox,
> Opera is an excellent alternative.
Good advice. Firefox is a great choice on either platform, and free. I
run it along with Safari on OSX. I haven't used Opera but those guys are
no slouches.
My advice is to use the beta of Safari on MSWindows only if you don't
mind risking a beta version on your system, but to wait if you do mind
the risks. Standard advice for a beta.
Our advice is not far apart.
Cheers,
-Jamie
www.JamieKrutz.com
> TCB
>
>> Cheers,
>> -Jamie
>> www.JamieKrutz.com
>>
>>
>> TCB wrote:
>>> This slashdot article has links
>>>
>>> http://apple.slashdot.org/apple/07/06/12/0120230.shtml
>>>
>>> It's not surprising that Apple would be unprepared for the kind of scrutiny
>>> they will get on the security front releasing Windows software, especially
>>> a browser. They've been living in a 'security by obscurity' bubble for
> some
>>> time now, allowed to make outlandish claims about Apple security and safety.
>>> The Larlhom blog was slashdotted into oblivion but I had a friend send
> it.
>>>
>>> If they want a real presence on windows for their browser they'll have
> to
>>> learn how to manage this stuff. The Mozilla/Firefox group had their teething
>>> pains as well, but then again they were free software so could leverage
> both
>>> goodwill and lots of coders to get up to snuff fast.
>>>
>>> TCB
>>>
>>> "James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>> If this is really true, they will have to fix this quick.
>>>>
>>>> "TCB" <nobody@ishere.com> wrote:
>>>>> Windows security guys are finding 'drive a truck through it' security
> holes
>>>>> in Win Safari. And these are stack overflows and heap corruption, the
> bad
>>>>> stuff. If any windows users want a closed source browser that's not
> IE
>>> I'd
>>>>> strongly suggest Opera. Bruce Schneier uses it. 'Nuff said.
>>>>>
>>>>> TCB
>>>>>
>>>>> "James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> Did you actually try Safari? What did you find buggy about it? Can
> you
>>>>> be
>>>>>> specific? What you are finding as bugs, might just be the way it works.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> A example of something that people might consider to be buggy, is the
>>> way
>>>>>> bookmarks are arranged. The book marks are added to the bottom of
> the
>>>> list
>>>>>> when you add a new bookmark. You can drag bookmarks and folders up
> and
>>>>> down,
>>>>>> but you can't simply arrange them in alphabetical order in one click.
>>>> At
>>>>>> least I haven't found a way. It's a PITA to manually arrange them
> when
>>>>> you
>>>>>> have a lot of bookmarks.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "LaMont" <jjdpro@ameritech.net> wrote:
>>>>>>> Nice..But, a little buggy. That's to be expected from a beta. Reminds
>>>> me
>>>>>> when
>>>>>>> itunes was first introduced , buggy, but now a pretty good player..
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I can't and don't see why Apple just won;t Pull the trigger and release
>>>>>> OS-X
>>>>>>> for any PC ..Give us an alternative without having to re-purchase
> a PC/Mac..
>>>>>>> "James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>> Leopard is really looking cool, and it's still only $129.00. Safari
>>>>> is
>>>>>>> now
>>>>>>>> on Windows. Apple is making some moves. More to come!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> http://www.engadget.com/2007/06/11/steve-jobs-live-from-wwdc -2007/
>It's very interesting to see what everyone looks like after all these
years....
-Carl
"chuck duffy" <c@c.com> wrote in message news:466ff53a$1@linux...
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> I can't believe you found a picture of me :-)
>
> Chuck
> Paul Braun <cygnus_nospam@ctgonline.org> wrote:
> >www.laidbak.com/ebay/paris/album/index.html
> >
> >New pix from Dave EK, Neil, and a couple more from Rod.
> >
> >Enjoy!
> >
> >pab
>Free Neil!
Whatever the ransom, we'll pay it!
Cheers,
-Jamie
www.JamieKrutz.com
Bill L wrote:
> Actually, it looks more like a hostage situation. If you are expecting
> your "Paris family" to come up with a million bucks or some crap like
> that... Dream on, Neil.
>
> Bill L wrote:
>> Neil, are you married? 'Cause two guys in that band are putting horns
>> on you, dude! You gotta watch out with other musicians and *your* woman.
>>
>> Paul Braun wrote:
>>> www.laidbak.com/ebay/paris/album/index.html
>>>
>>> New pix from Dave EK, Neil, and a couple more from Rod.
>>>
>>> Enjoy!
>>>
>>> pabyeah it took a long time for me to finally look like me and not one of
them.
On Wed, 13 Jun 2007 11:27:53 -0500, "Carl Amburn"
<carlamburn@hotNOSPAMmail.com> wrote:
>It's very interesting to see what everyone looks like after all these
>years....
>
>-Carl
>
>"chuck duffy" <c@c.com> wrote in message news:466ff53a$1@linux...
>>
>> I can't believe you found a picture of me :-)
>>
>> Chuck
>> Paul Braun <cygnus_nospam@ctgonline.org> wrote:
>> >www.laidbak.com/ebay/paris/album/index.html
>> >
>> >New pix from Dave EK, Neil, and a couple more from Rod.
>> >
>> >Enjoy!
>> >
>> >pab
>>
>"Gantt Kushner" <ganttmann@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>Anyone have any experience w/ these?
I haven't used one of these, but I believe it just got a rave reveiw in Tape
Op. Evidently a great improvement on the previous model.Hi guys and gals. PC question.
I have been using Matrox video cards
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| Re: 240v to 110v ? [message #84641 is a reply to message #84640] |
Wed, 16 May 2007 00:34 |
Tom Bruhl
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for a long time now and have avoid using
Nforce cards because I could not disable "Bus Mastering" which eats into
the PCI buss.
Are there other high speed video cards (AGP) that I can disable Bus mastering?
ThanksGreat album. For how infrequently I post here (although I lurk a lot), I
was pleasantly surprised to be included. It's fun to put faces with names.
Brian
"Paul Braun" <cygnus_nospam@ctgonline.org> wrote in message
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> www.laidbak.com/ebay/paris/album/index.html
>
> New pix from Dave EK, Neil, and a couple more from Rod.
>
> Enjoy!
>
> pabHey Deej,
Did you find out anything interesting?
Cheers,
-Jamie
www.JamieKrutz.com
DJ wrote:
> thanks...will do.
>
> "Jamie K" <Meta@Dimensional.com> wrote in message news:4666f028@linux...
>> Let us know what you find out. Here's a start:
>>
>> "The battery we use is the NiMH, same as used in cameras and small
>> cylinder AA, AAA, etc. Toyota-Panasonic formed a partnership "PEVE" to
>> license and improve NiMH for EVs. Around this time, GM purchased the
>> worldwide patent rights to the NiMH battery. Later, GM decided to sell
>> those rights to Texaco, which then merged with Chevron. Chevron then put
>> the battery rights under control of a Joint Venture, "COBASYS," and
>> decided to fund a lawsuit against large-format (electric car battery)
>> competitors such as Toyota-Panasonic.
>>
>> Chevron's lawsuit led to a settlement agreement with PEVE (and Sanyo,
>> etc.) whereby Toyota paid $30M to Chevron, Toyota was granted the rights
>> to use "small-format" batteries on the Prius, and Toyota agreed not to
>> build "large-format" versions of its batteries (needed for plug-in cars)
>> for export to the U.S. until 2014. At least, that's what it seems to be;
>> portions of the settlement agreement are still secret.
>>
>> Hence, Chevron and GM together led to the end of Toyota's RAV4-EV program,
>> it seems; at the current time, only Chevron is allowed to market
>> "large-format" NiMH batteries in the USA, and Chevron has decided not to
>> do so. In fact, Chevron won't sell its NiMH batteries to anyone except
>> large fleets, it says. When I say Chevron, I am referring to their Joint
>> Venture, "COBASYS," which is their unit controlling the batteries."
>>
>> From:
>> http://www.ocweekly.com/index.php?option=com_content2&ta sk=view&id=25134&Itemid=47
>>
>> Cheers,
>> -Jamie
>> www.JamieKrutz.com
>>
>>
>>
>> DJ wrote:
>>>> Since then, Chevron has gotten a hold of the battery patent and there is
>>>> some talk that they may be making it difficult for car companies to use
>>>> those proven batteries for future EVs.
>>>>
>>> Are you serious??? I'm doing some contract work for Chevron right now. I
>>> have worked for them before and I know a bit about how inefficient and
>>> just plain ol' scooterfucked some of the thinking is there. It's been an
>>> uphill battle dealing with them here due to a number of things they have
>>> requested that I do that I have flat out refused to do. I'm going to look
>>> into this. I may just opt out of my dealings with them completely.
>>> Wouldn't be the end of the world.
>>>
>>>
>Thanks to all who responded earlier....however, I think the KSP8 is currently
out of my price range. For just the plain old reverbs, primarily w/ acoustic
instruments, has anyone had experience to know if there is much difference
in quality between the Rumour and the TC Electr. M3000?
thanks,
daleThis sounds like fun....my cello will be at the ready in case someone starts
another one
"Neil" <OIOIU@OIU.com> wrote:
>
>I've tried this twice here - no end result... always crapped
>out before it got beyond a couple of parts. Deej tried it too,
>I think - or if not him it was someone else who initiated
>another one.
>
>Neil
>
>
>"Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>I remember a couple of years back a bunch of guys off here were starting
>>to record something by posting disks around...
>>
>>...did anything get finished? I never heard anything.
>>
>>Cheers,
>>Kim.
>"Rod Lincoln" <rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com> wrote in message
news:466ff566$1@linux...
>
> His whole mindset is that the plugins have more headroom and sound better
> when the tracks aren't as hot. I was just wondering what everyone else
> thought.
> Rod
> By the way, the reason this thread went astray IS BECAUSE OF SARAH! IT'S
> HER FAULT!
> ;-)
>
Give Sarah a break. It's not her fault. It's all those time
signatures........
;o)Hey peeps,
You, know, I'm really liking the DM3200 with Cubase 4
though James was absolutely right about the learning curve
when he advised me to give it 30 days with the
manual.
My only prob is that, with my day job, that month almost
literally becomes a month of Sundays!!!!!
Anyway I have to say that Tascam has done a really
good job with the new MKII firewire card. It makes the boardd work really
well as a controller and actually sounds better than I had expected. The
guys at the DM3200/4800 forum are
helpul, good guys too. There's some useful info there. Can't comment on the
mic pre's yet cause I haven't done any "live" tracking yet.
In a nutshell, while I lament the fact that no one picked
up the Paris banner and kept it a current, valid tool,
I've seen enough to decide I'm committed to this new set-up for a while.
Ton's of potential here especially if I am able to take the time to learn
everything on the board as well as
deepening my Cubase chops.
I'm keeping a minimal PARIS rig to experiment with as
a stereo summing buss. I haven't heard the new rig
that way yet though so I'll let you know when I get
there. (On that note I'm probably going to need to get
a word clock. Is the little Hosa WDC427 worth
bothering with? Don't have much left to spend)
I still have a KSP8 and BFD to learn and I think
the whole purpose of all this stuff is to actually
track and finish some tunes so I'm trying to curtail the usual time doing
the gear-head, noodle yanking, gear lust thing I'm
prone to and actually get a project done with what I have.
Anyway, just wanted to give you guys an update and BTW a fair portion of
my Paris rig is for sale (See my FS post).
Arriva Dishrag,
JonPaul... V4 shows up... no 5
David.
Paul Braun wrote:
> www.laidbak.com/ebay/paris/album/index.html
>
> New pix from Dave EK, Neil, and a couple more from Rod.
>
> Enjoy!
>
> pabHmmm.. V5 shows up in IE, but not Netscape... wierd... as you were!
David.
EK Sound wrote:
> Paul... V4 shows up... no 5
>
> David.
>
> Paul Braun wrote:
>
>> www.laidbak.com/ebay/paris/album/index.html
>>
>> New pix from Dave EK, Neil, and a couple more from Rod.
>>
>> Enjoy!
>>
>> pabHey there-
I think I read a post here from you recently that you're running BFD and
GS3 on seperate boxes from your main DAW.
I've got both programs and some extra machines here so I/m thinking about
doing the same thing. What's your approach? FX teleport,soundcards on each
machine,rewire, vsti system link (or whatever Steinberg calls it), etc, yada
yada, yada?
Thanks much,
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I 'heard' that the reverbs were the same as the KSP8.
I don't know that for a fact though.
Tom
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thanks,
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Well my appraoch is pretty simple..I treat each vsti PC as a midi module
rack..That is:
- Vst PC1 Runs Vstack-Synths
- Vst PC2.Runs Drums (BFD,DKFH-CV,Stylus RMX, Battery .... .All connected
to a
Motu 8x8 midi patch bay
- Vst PC3 Runs Proteus X...var
- Giga PC ........................Strings .Giga Libs
-All PCs except one have the M-Audio Audiophile 192 card and the Giga PC
use the RME Digi 96 PST...
All Vsti & Giga PC are patched into a mackie 1620 Onyx mixer.........then...Firewire
into My Main Recording DAW........
* All midi modules are connect to Midi patchbays...
"Jon Jiles" <nojij@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>Hey there-
>
>I think I read a post here from you recently that you're running BFD and
>GS3 on seperate boxes from your main DAW.
>
>I've got both programs and some extra machines here so I/m thinking about
>doing the same thing. What's your approach? FX teleport,soundcards on each
>machine,rewire, vsti system link (or whatever Steinberg calls it), etc,
yada
>yada, yada?
>
>Thanks much,
>JonOn Wed, 13 Jun 2007 17:16:18 -0600, EK Sound <askme@nospam.com> wrote:
>Hmmm.. V5 shows up in IE, but not Netscape... wierd... as you were!
>
>David.
I'm not sure if Netscape works the same way, but if you hold down
"shift" and hit reload, it should force it to pull from the site and
not from local cache.
pabHey Jon..!!!
That's good news. .I've been on the fence contemplating on getting into a
Digtal mixer with Nuendo and Pro Tools..mainly the DM 2000, but as James
and many others have stated, (2) DM4800 comes out to under 10k...
I had a chance to demo one last year Dm3200 and like the DM24, I was very
impressed with it's sound quality and all around functionality..
Impressed!!
"Jon Jiles" <nojij@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>Hey peeps,
>
>You, know, I'm really liking the DM3200 with Cubase 4
>though James was absolutely right about the learning curve
>when he advised me to give it 30 days with the
>manual.
>
>My only prob is that, with my day job, that month almost
>literally becomes a month of Sundays!!!!!
>
>Anyway I have to say that Tascam has done a really
>good job with the new MKII firewire card. It makes the boardd work really
>well as a controller and actually sounds better than I had expected. The
>guys at the DM3200/4800 forum are
>helpul, good guys too. There's some useful info there. Can't comment on
the
>mic pre's yet cause I haven't done any "live" tracking yet.
>
>In a nutshell, while I lament the fact that no one picked
>up the Paris banner and kept it a current, valid tool,
>I've seen enough to decide I'm committed to this new set-up for a while.
>Ton's of potential here especially if I am able to take the time to learn
>everything on the board as well as
>deepening my Cubase chops.
>
>
>I'm keeping a minimal PARIS rig to experiment with as
>a stereo summing buss. I haven't heard the new rig
>that way yet though so I'll let you know when I get
>there. (On that note I'm probably going to need to get
>a word clock. Is the little Hosa WDC427 worth
>bothering with? Don't have much left to spend)
>
>I still have a KSP8 and BFD to learn and I think
>the whole purpose of all this stuff is to actually
>track and finish some tunes so I'm trying to curtail the usual time doing
>the gear-head, noodle yanking, gear lust thing I'm
>prone to and actually get a project done with what I have.
>
>Anyway, just wanted to give you guys an update and BTW a fair portion of
>my Paris rig is for sale (See my FS post).
>
>Arriva Dishrag,
>Jon
>
>Do you hear much of a downgrade using the p1 as opposed to the pacifica?
"wireline" <wirelinestudionospam@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>
>Yes...I have, use, and endorse both...IMO the ADesigns stuff is the most
versitile
>and colored with a pleasing bouquet of anything else I've used, including
>Neves, API, ADL, Millenia, etc..
>
>I would not hesitate to (and have done so a time or two) use exclusively
>the Pacifica and P1s for an entire CD project.
>
>> Anyone here tried the A design Pacifica or the P1?
>>
>>
>Not at all...although there are minor differences in sonic response based
primarily in the phsical limitations of space and transformer size, both
are top notch, and both have been used interchangeably here. The Pacifica
IMO ekes out in sheer sonic power, while the P1 is more a finesse piece -
if that makes any sense
"cujo" <chris@applemanstudio.com> wrote:
>
>
>Do you hear much of a downgrade using the p1 as opposed to the pacifica?
>
>
>
>
>"wireline" <wirelinestudionospam@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>>
>>Yes...I have, use, and endorse both...IMO the ADesigns stuff is the most
>versitile
>>and colored with a pleasing bouquet of anything else I've used, including
>>Neves, API, ADL, Millenia, etc..
>>
>>I would not hesitate to (and have done so a time or two) use exclusively
>>the Pacifica and P1s for an entire CD project.
>>
>>> Anyone here tried the A design Pacifica or the P1?
>>>
>>>
>>
>So I was sending an email on my AMD Gateway and something crashed--seems like
a combo of things including AOL IM and some Norton the...the Media/IT at
my church studio guy removed AOL but could not get Norton off. Windows seems
a bit scrambled--desktop shows up but a lot of things are not running. I
was going to copy off all my needed files and then start over, buuut, it
lets me hit Copy, but will not let me paste it anywhere--it seems to find
the firewire drive, but Paste is greyed out--won't even let me paste it on
the desktop...and ideas short of the .357????I'm no IT guy by any stretch, but "what I'd do" is to , click Start>Run,
type msconfigon the enable all and reboot your machine, make note of what's
checked in the startup items, then click on the "enable all" button. If
certain critical startup items aren't launching, this will solve that
problem. another thing I'd do before I did it "my" way is to ask others who
know more than "I do".
Deej
"John Macy" <spamlessjohn@johnmacy.com> wrote in message
news:4670b6f6$1@linux...
>
> So I was sending an email on my AMD Gateway and something crashed--seems
> like
> a combo of things including AOL IM and some Norton the...the Media/IT at
> my church studio guy removed AOL but could not get Norton off. Windows
> seems
> a bit scrambled--desktop shows up but a lot of things are not running. I
> was going to copy off all my needed files and then start over, buuut, it
> lets me hit Copy, but will not let me paste it anywhere--it seems to find
> the firewire drive, but Paste is greyed out--won't even let me paste it on
> the desktop...and ideas short of the .357????dang!!!..WTF did I type???. .......it's been so long since I've had sleep
that I'm sitting here in a room with Abraham Lincoln, a talking muskrat and
a guy in a hardhat diving suit. OK, here it is again:..............
I'm no IT guy by any stretch, but "what I'd do" is to , click Start>Run,
type msconfig, make note of what's checked in the startup items, then click
on the "enable all" button. If certain critical startup items aren't
launching, this will solve that problem. Another thing I'd do before I did
it "my way" is to wait for a few other folks here to reply because they
probably know more than "I do".
Deej
"DJ" <www.aarrrrggghhh!!!.com> wrote in message news:4670c0ce$1@linux...
> I'm no IT guy by any stretch, but "what I'd do" is to , click Start>Run,
> type msconfigon the enable all and reboot your machine, make note of
> what's checked in the startup items, then click on the "enable all"
> button. If certain critical startup items aren't launching, this will
> solve that problem. another thing I'd do before I did it "my" way is to
> ask others who know more than "I do".
>
> Deej
>
> "John Macy" <spamlessjohn@johnmacy.com> wrote in message
> news:4670b6f6$1@linux...
>>
>> So I was sending an email on my AMD Gateway and something crashed--seems
>> like
>> a combo of things including AOL IM and some Norton the...the Media/IT at
>> my church studio guy removed AOL but could not get Norton off. Windows
>> seems
>> a bit scrambled--desktop shows up but a lot of things are not running. I
>> was going to copy off all my needed files and then start over, buuut, it
>> lets me hit Copy, but will not let me paste it anywhere--it seems to find
>> the firewire drive, but Paste is greyed out--won't even let me paste it
>> on
>> the desktop...and ideas short of the .357????
>
>John
What version of windows?
Jeff
Macy wrote:
> So I was sending an email on my AMD Gateway and something crashed--seems like
> a combo of things including AOL IM and some Norton the...the Media/IT at
> my church studio guy removed AOL but could not get Norton off. Windows seems
> a bit scrambled--desktop shows up but a lot of things are not running. I
> was going to copy off all my needed files and then start over, buuut, it
> lets me hit Copy, but will not let me paste it anywhere--it seems to find
> the firewire drive, but Paste is greyed out--won't even let me paste it on
> the desktop...and ideas short of the .357????HI John,
Ouch removing AOL and or Norton products can be the most dangerous
things you could ever do on a PC, especially if they are older versions. :)
Could be a virus or possibly a bad drive. You might want to boot into
safe mode and do a full virus scan before attach that firewire drive.
If you don't have access to any drive imaging software you can alway do
a windows repair install. It won't totally make you system perfect but
will make it usable enough to back up your personal data.
You will need your windows install disk and product key.
Before you do that you should put the disk in and go to recovery console
and do a full chkdsk for bad sectors before you try to install
windows.If the drive does have bad sectors don't try to install windows.
Go buy a new hard drive and a copy of Acronis True Image Home 10. You
shouldn't use the bad drive till you use Acronis to make an image of it.
Chris
John Macy wrote:
> So I was sending an email on my AMD Gateway and something crashed--seems like
> a combo of things including AOL IM and some Norton the...the Media/IT at
> my church studio guy removed AOL but could not get Norton off. Windows seems
> a bit scrambled--desktop shows up but a lot of things are not running. I
> was going to copy off all my needed files and then start over, buuut, it
> lets me hit Copy, but will not let me paste it anywhere--it seems to find
> the firewire drive, but Paste is greyed out--won't even let me paste it on
> the desktop...and ideas short of the .357????
>
--
Chris Ludwig
ADK
chrisl@adkproaudio.com <mailto:chrisl@adkproaudio.com>
www.adkproaudio.com <http://www.adkproaudio.com/>
(859) 635-5762Anyway to pull the drive out of the laptop and access it from another computer
to copy the files?
Chris Ludwig <chrisl@adkproaudio.com> wrote:
>HI John,
>Ouch removing AOL and or Norton products can be the most dangerous
>things you could ever do on a PC, especially if they are older versions.
:)
>Could be a virus or possibly a bad drive. You might want to boot into
>safe mode and do a full virus scan before attach that firewire drive.
>If you don't have access to any drive imaging software you can alway do
>a windows repair install. It won't totally make you system perfect but
>will make it usable enough to back up your personal data.
>You will need your windows install disk and product key.
>Before you do that you should put the disk in and go to recovery console
>and do a full chkdsk for bad sectors before you try to install
>windows.If the drive does have bad sectors don't try to install windows.
>Go buy a new hard drive and a copy of Acronis True Image Home 10. You
>shouldn't use the bad drive till you use Acronis to make an image of it.
>
>Chris
>
>
>
>
>John Macy wrote:
>> So I was sending an email on my AMD Gateway and something crashed--seems
like
>> a combo of things including AOL IM and some Norton the...the Media/IT
at
>> my church studio guy removed AOL but could not get Norton off. Windows
seems
>> a bit scrambled--desktop shows up but a lot of things are not running.
I
>> was going to copy off all my needed files and then start over, buuut,
it
>> lets me hit Copy, but will not let me paste it anywhere--it seems to find
>> the firewire drive, but Paste is greyed out--won't even let me paste it
on
>> the desktop...and ideas short of the .357????
>>
>
>--
>Chris Ludwig
>ADK
>chrisl@adkproaudio.com <mailto:chrisl@adkproaudio.com>
>www.adkproaudio.com <http://www.adkproaudio.com/>
>(859) 635-5762The files seem OK--I can open up word documents--not sure about the other
stuff--
"John Macy" <spamlessjohn@johnmacy.com> wrote:
>
>Anyway to pull the drive out of the laptop and access it from another computer
>to copy the files?
>
>Chris Ludwig <chrisl@adkproaudio.com> wrote:
>>HI John,
>>Ouch removing AOL and or Norton products can be the most dangerous
>>things you could ever do on a PC, especially if they are older versions.
>:)
>>Could be a virus or possibly a bad drive. You might want to boot into
>>safe mode and do a full virus scan before attach that firewire drive.
>>If you don't have access to any drive imaging software you can alway do
>
>>a windows repair install. It won't totally make you system perfect but
>>will make it usable enough to back up your personal data.
>>You will need your windows install disk and product key.
>>Before you do that you should put the disk in and go to recovery console
>
>>and do a full chkdsk for bad sectors before you try to install
>>windows.If the drive does have bad sectors don't try to install windows.
>>Go buy a new hard drive and a copy of Acronis True Image Home 10. You
>>shouldn't use the bad drive till you use Acronis to make an image of it.
>>
>>Chris
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>John Macy wrote:
>>> So I was sending an email on my AMD Gateway and something crashed--seems
>like
>>> a combo of things including AOL IM and some Norton the...the Media/IT
>at
>>> my church studio guy removed AOL but could not get Norton off. Windows
>seems
>>> a bit scrambled--desktop shows up but a lot of things are not running.
> I
>>> was going to copy off all my needed files and then start over, buuut,
>it
>>> lets me hit Copy, but will not let me paste it anywhere--it seems to
find
>>> the firewire drive, but Paste is greyed out--won't even let me paste
it
>on
>>> the desktop...and ideas short of the .357????
>>>
>>
>
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>--
>>Chris Ludwig
>>ADK
>>chrisl@adkproaudio.com <mailto:chrisl@adkproaudio.com>
>>www.adkproaudio.com <http://www.adkproaudio.com/>
>>(859) 635-5762
>..why do I get a mental image of a coyote riding a boiler with a faulty purge
valve?
"Bill L" <bill@billlorentzen.com> wrote in message news:466c2d42@linux...
>I understand there are cities in Italy and other places in Europe where
>they are using compressed air engine cars like this one:
> http://www.theaircar.com/yup. Get a second PC and a USB removable drive case for your laptop drive.
Pull your hard drive data to a safe location so you can tinker. Put the
drive back in the laptop, and do a safe mode reboot. Schedule a scandisk,
reboot and let it run. Do a reg check also.
..357 optional post data backup.
AA
"John Macy" <spamlessjohn@johnmacy.com> wrote in message
news:4670b6f6$1@linux...
>
> So I was sending an email on my AMD Gateway and something crashed--seems
> like
> a combo of things including AOL IM and some Norton the...the Media/IT at
> my church studio guy removed AOL but could not get Norton off. Windows
> seems
> a bit scrambled--desktop shows up but a lot of things are not running. I
> was going to copy off all my needed files and then start over, buuut, it
> lets me hit Copy, but will not let me paste it anywhere--it seems to find
> the firewire drive, but Paste is greyed out--won't even let me paste it on
> the desktop...and ideas short of the .357????Find out if it's a IDE or a SATA drive. Buy the appropriate USB case for
your interface. it will be a 2.5" drive, not a 3.5".
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&am p;Description=usb%20drive%20enclosure&bop=And&SrchIn Desc=2%2E5%22&Page=1
AA
"John Macy" <spamlessjohn@johnmacy.com> wrote in message
news:4670c942$1@linux...
>
> Anyway to pull the drive out of the laptop and access it from another
> computer
> to copy the files?
>
> Chris Ludwig <chrisl@adkproaudio.com> wrote:
>>HI John,
>>Ouch removing AOL and or Norton products can be the most dangerous
>>things you could ever do on a PC, especially if they are older versions.
> :)
>>Could be a virus or possibly a bad drive. You might want to boot into
>>safe mode and do a full virus scan before attach that firewire drive.
>>If you don't have access to any drive imaging software you can alway do
>
>>a windows repair install. It won't totally make you system perfect but
>>will make it usable enough to back up your personal data.
>>You will need your windows install disk and product key.
>>Before you do that you should put the disk in and go to recovery console
>
>>and do a full chkdsk for bad sectors before you try to install
>>windows.If the drive does have bad sectors don't try to install windows.
>>Go buy a new hard drive and a copy of Acronis True Image Home 10. You
>>shouldn't use the bad drive till you use Acronis to make an image of it.
>>
>>Chris
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>John Macy wrote:
>>> So I was sending an email on my AMD Gateway and something crashed--seems
> like
>>> a combo of things including AOL IM and some Norton the...the Media/IT
> at
>>> my church studio guy removed AOL but could not get Norton off. Windows
> seems
>>> a bit scrambled--desktop shows up but a lot of things are not running.
> I
>>> was going to copy off all my needed files and then start over, buuut,
> it
>>> lets me hit Copy, but will not let me paste it anywhere--it seems to
>>> find
>>> the firewire drive, but Paste is greyed out--won't even let me paste it
> on
>>> the desktop...and ideas short of the .357????
>>>
>>
>>--
>>Chris Ludwig
>>ADK
>>chrisl@adkproaudio.com <mailto:chrisl@adkproaudio.com>
>>www.adkproaudio.com <http://www.adkproaudio.com/>
>>(859) 635-5762
>Hey AA, is it time to go eat again?? :)
Is there a special case for the small laptop drives?
"Aaron Allen" <know-spam@not_here.dude> wrote:
>yup. Get a second PC and a USB removable drive case for your laptop drive.
>Pull your hard drive data to a safe location so you can tinker. Put the
>drive back in the laptop, and do a safe mode reboot. Schedule a scandisk,
>reboot and let it run. Do a reg check also.
>
>.357 optional post data backup.
>
>AA
>
>
>"John Macy" <spamlessjohn@johnmacy.com> wrote in message
>news:4670b6f6$1@linux...
>>
>> So I was sending an email on my AMD Gateway and something crashed--seems
>> like
>> a combo of things including AOL IM and some Norton the...the Media/IT
at
>> my church studio guy removed AOL but could not get Norton off. Windows
>> seems
>> a bit scrambled--desktop shows up but a lot of things are not running.
I
>> was going to copy off all my needed files and then start over, buuut,
it
>> lets me hit Copy, but will not let me paste it anywhere--it seems to find
>> the firewire drive, but Paste is greyed out--won't even let me paste it
on
>> the desktop...and ideas short of the .357????
>
>"John Macy" <spamlessjohn@johnmacy.com> wrote in message
news:4670cbaf$1@linux...
>
> Hey AA, is it time to go eat again?? :)
Why, I believe it is. Bring that Mexican coke w/you. I'll call Fuji here in
Tulsa, when you comin' down? :)
>
> Is there a special case for the small laptop drives?
yup. See second post my friend - even gave ya a link to go to. If you think
you'll be tracking any on this machine, do yourself a huge favor.... go get
a 7200 RPM Seagate. I bought one a few months ago and at a dollar a GIG it's
a whopping deal for doing audio.
>
>
> "Aaron Allen" <know-spam@not_here.dude> wrote:
>>yup. Get a second PC and a USB removable drive case for your laptop drive.
>
>>Pull your hard drive data to a safe location so you can tinker. Put the
>
>>drive back in the laptop, and do a safe mode reboot. Schedule a scandisk,
>
>>reboot and let it run. Do a reg check also.
>>
>>.357 optional post data backup.
>>
>>AA
>>
>>
>>"John Macy" <spamlessjohn@johnmacy.com> wrote in message
>>news:4670b6f6$1@linux...
>>>
>>> So I was sending an email on my AMD Gateway and something crashed--seems
>
>>> like
>>> a combo of things including AOL IM and some Norton the...the Media/IT
> at
>>> my church studio guy removed AOL but could not get Norton off. Windows
>
>>> seems
>>> a bit scrambled--desktop shows up but a lot of things are not running.
> I
>>> was going to copy off all my needed files and then start over, buuut,
> it
>>> lets me hit Copy, but will not let me paste it anywhere--it seems to
>>> find
>>> the firewire drive, but Paste is greyed out--won't even let me paste it
> on
>>> the desktop...and ideas short of the .357????
>>
>>
>This is the one I got. The performance boost was 'so' worth it from the
Toshiba stock 5400 80GB.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822146 230
AA
"Aaron Allen" <know-spam@not_here.dude> wrote in message
news:4670cc81@linux...
>
> "John Macy" <spamlessjohn@johnmacy.com> wrote in message
> news:4670cbaf$1@linux...
>>
>> Hey AA, is it time to go eat again?? :)
>
>
> Why, I believe it is. Bring that Mexican coke w/you. I'll call Fuji here
> in Tulsa, when you comin' down? :)
>
>
>>
>> Is there a special case for the small laptop drives?
>
> yup. See second post my friend - even gave ya a link to go to. If you
> think you'll be tracking any on this machine, do yourself a huge favor....
> go get a 7200 RPM Seagate. I bought one a few months ago and at a dollar a
> GIG it's a whopping deal for doing audio.
>
>>
>>
>> "Aaron Allen" <know-spam@not_here.dude> wrote:
>>>yup. Get a second PC and a USB removable drive case for your laptop
>>>drive.
>>
>>>Pull your hard drive data to a safe location so you can tinker. Put the
>>
>>>drive back in the laptop, and do a safe mode reboot. Schedule a scandisk,
>>
>>>reboot and let it run. Do a reg check also.
>>>
>>>.357 optional post data backup.
>>>
>>>AA
>>>
>>>
>>>"John Macy" <spamlessjohn@johnmacy.com> wrote in message
>>>news:4670b6f6$1@linux...
>>>>
>>>> So I was sending an email on my AMD Gateway and something
>>>> crashed--seems
>>
>>>> like
>>>> a combo of things including AOL IM and some Norton the...the Media/IT
>> at
>>>> my church studio guy removed AOL but could not get Norton off. Windows
>>
>>>> seems
>>>> a bit scrambled--desktop shows up but a lot of things are not running.
>> I
>>>> was going to copy off all my needed files and then start over, buuut,
>> it
>>>> lets me hit Copy, but will not let me paste it anywhere--it seems to
>>>> find
>>>> the firewire drive, but Paste is greyed out--won't even let me paste it
>> on
>>>> the desktop...and ideas short of the .357????
>>>
>>>
>>
>
>He is referring to the Mexican Coca-Cola we had while eating carnitas...
:)
"Aaron Allen" <know-spam@not_here.dude> wrote:
>
>"John Macy" <spamlessjohn@johnmacy.com> wrote in message
>news:4670cbaf$1@linux...
>>
>> Hey AA, is it time to go eat again?? :)
>
>
>Why, I believe it is. Bring that Mexican coke w/you. I'll call Fuji here
in
>Tulsa, when you comin' down? :)
>
>
>>
>> Is there a special case for the small laptop drives?
>
>yup. See second post my friend - even gave ya a link to go to. If you think
>you'll be tracking any on this machine, do yourself a huge favor.... go
get
>a 7200 RPM Seagate. I bought one a few months ago and at a dollar a GIG
it's
>a whopping deal for doing audio.
>
>>
>>
>> "Aaron Allen" <know-spam@not_here.dude> wrote:
>>>yup. Get a second PC and a USB removable drive case for your laptop drive.
>>
>>>Pull your hard drive data to a safe location so you can tinker. Put the
>>
>>>drive back in the laptop, and do a safe mode reboot. Schedule a scandisk,
>>
>>>reboot and let it run. Do a reg check also.
>>>
>>>.357 optional post data backup.
>>>
>>>AA
>>>
>>>
>>>"John Macy" <spamlessjohn@johnmacy.com> wrote in message
>>>news:4670b6f6$1@linux...
>>>>
>>>> So I was sending an email on my AMD Gateway and something crashed--seems
>>
>>>> like
>>>> a combo of things including AOL IM and some Norton the...the Media/IT
>> at
>>>> my church studio guy removed AOL but could not get Norton off. Windows
>>
>>>> seems
>>>> a bit scrambled--desktop shows up but a lot of things are not running.
>> I
>>>> was going to copy off all my needed files and then start over, buuut,
>> it
>>>> lets me hit Copy, but will not let me paste it anywhere--it seems to
>>>> find
>>>> the firewire drive, but Paste is greyed out--won't even let me paste
it
>> on
>>>> the desktop...and ideas short of the .357????
>>>
>>>
>>
>
>John
What model is the laptop? Can probably check product support at Gateway
and determine what kind of drive it is.
I bought one of the 2.5" externals and pulled the drive, put it into a
laptop and reinstalled software, then put the original drive into the
external housing and copied files over. Worked pretty clean.
Jeff
Macy wrote:
> Hey AA, is it time to go eat again?? :)
>
> Is there a special case for the small laptop drives?
>
>
> "Aaron Allen" <know-spam@not_here.dude> wrote:
>
>>yup. Get a second PC and a USB removable drive case for your laptop drive.
>
>
>>Pull your hard drive data to a safe location so you can tinker. Put the
>
>
>>drive back in the laptop, and do a safe mode reboot. Schedule a scandisk,
>
>
>>reboot and let it run. Do a reg check also.
>>
>>.357 optional post data backup.
>>
>>AA
>>
>>
>>"John Macy" <spamlessjohn@johnmacy.com> wrote in message
>>news:4670b6f6$1@linux...
>>
>>>So I was sending an email on my AMD Gateway and something crashed--seems
>
>
>>>like
>>>a combo of things including AOL IM and some Norton the...the Media/IT
>
> at
>
>>>my church studio guy removed AOL but could not get Norton off. Windows
>
>
>>>seems
>>>a bit scrambled--desktop shows up but a lot of things are not running.
>
> I
>
>>>was going to copy off all my needed files and then start over, buuut,
>
> it
>
>>>lets me hit Copy, but will not let me paste it anywhere--it seems to find
>>>the firewire drive, but Paste is greyed out--won't even let me paste it
>
> on
>
>>>the desktop...and ideas short of the .357????
>>
>>
>The external thing looks like the ticket--if I can copy my files and documents
onto another computer, I can just start over on the Goat...I mean Gate...
Damn, I'm so good at backing up audio, I forget about the personal stuff...
Jeff Hoover <jkhoover@excite.com> wrote:
>John
>What model is the laptop? Can probably check product support at Gateway
>and determine what kind of drive it is.
>
>I bought one of the 2.5" externals and pulled the drive, put it into a
>laptop and reinstalled software, then put the original drive into the
>external housing and copied files over. Worked pretty clean.
>
>Jeff
>
>
>Macy wrote:
>> Hey AA, is it time to go eat again?? :)
>>
>> Is there a special case for the small laptop drives?
>>
>>
>> "Aaron Allen" <know-spam@not_here.dude> wrote:
>>
>>>yup. Get a second PC and a USB removable drive case for your laptop drive.
>>
>>
>>>Pull your hard drive data to a safe location so you can tinker. Put the
>>
>>
>>>drive back in the laptop, and do a safe mode reboot. Schedule a scandisk,
>>
>>
>>>reboot and let it run. Do a reg check also.
>>>
>>>.357 optional post data backup.
>>>
>>>AA
>>>
>>>
>>>"John Macy" <spamlessjohn@johnmacy.com> wrote in message
>>>news:4670b6f6$1@linux...
>>>
>>>>So I was sending an email on my AMD Gateway and something crashed--seems
>>
>>
>>>>like
>>>>a combo of things including AOL IM and some Norton the...the Media/IT
>>
>> at
>>
>>>>my church studio guy removed AOL but could not get Norton off. Windows
>>
>>
>>>>seems
>>>>a bit scrambled--desktop shows up but a lot of things are not running.
>>
>> I
>>
>>>>was going to copy off all my needed files and then start over, buuut,
>>
>> it
>>
>>>>lets me hit Copy, but will not let me paste it anywhere--it seems to
find
>>>>the firewire drive, but Paste is greyed out--won't even let me paste
it
>>
>> on
>>
>>>>the desktop...and ideas short of the .357????
>>>
>>>
>>Wow, that's way too sensible!! I like it.
Thanks sir.
jj
"LaMont" <jjdpro@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>Hi Jon,
>
>Well my appraoch is pretty simple..I treat each vsti PC as a midi module
>rack..That is:
>
>- Vst PC1 Runs Vstack-Synths
>- Vst PC2.Runs Drums (BFD,DKFH-CV,Stylus RMX, Battery .... .All connected
>to a
> Motu 8x8 midi patch bay
>
>- Vst PC3 Runs Proteus X...var
>- Giga PC ........................Strings .Giga Libs
>-All PCs except one have the M-Audio Audiophile 192 card and the Giga PC
>use the RME Digi 96 PST...
>
>All Vsti & Giga PC are patched into a mackie 1620 Onyx mixer.........then...Firewire
>into My Main Recording DAW........
>
>
>* All midi modules are connect to Midi patchbays...
>"Jon Jiles" <nojij@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>>Hey there-
>>
>>I think I read a post here from you recently that you're running BFD and
>>GS3 on seperate boxes from your main DAW.
>>
>>I've got both programs and some extra machines here so I/m thinking about
>>doing the same thing. What's your approach? FX teleport,soundcards on each
>>machine,rewire, vsti system link (or whatever Steinberg calls it), etc,
>yada
>>yada, yada?
>>
>>Thanks much,
>>Jon
>Well I picked it partly because of what you shared with me about your experience
with it!
I forgot to mention that Tascam's support can be good, bad or just downright
lame depending on what day it is and how lucky you are but the folks at the
user forum are helpful and most of them are using it with Cubase or other
DAWS.
In general though Tascam seems to have gotten it right. The learning curve
(for me anyway) has indeed been (and continues to be) steep but the overall
flexibilty once you get there makes it a really good value... I think anyway!
I also haven't even played with any of the effects yet.
Cheers,
Jon
"LaMont" <jjdpro@ameritech.net> wrote:
>
>Hey Jon..!!!
>That's good news. .I've been on the fence contemplating on getting into
a
>Digtal mixer with Nuendo and Pro Tools..mainly the DM 2000, but as James
>and many others have stated, (2) DM4800 comes out to under 10k...
>
>I had a chance to demo one last year Dm3200 and like the DM24, I was very
>impressed with it's sound quality and all around functionality..
>Impressed!!
>
>
>
>
>"Jon Jiles" <nojij@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>>Hey peeps,
>>
>>You, know, I'm really liking the DM3200 with Cubase 4
>>though James was absolutely right about the learning curve
>>when he advised me to give it 30 days with the
>>manual.
>>
>>My only prob is that, with my day job, that month almost
>>literally becomes a month of Sundays!!!!!
>>
>>Anyway I have to say that Tascam has done a really
>>good job with the new MKII firewire card. It makes the boardd work really
>>well as a controller and actually sounds better than I had expected. The
>>guys at the DM3200/4800 forum are
>>helpul, good guys too. There's some useful info there. Can't comment on
>the
>>mic pre's yet cause I haven't done any "live" tracking yet.
>>
>>In a nutshell, while I lament the fact that no one picked
>>up the Paris banner and kept it a current, valid tool,
>>I've seen enough to decide I'm committed to this new set-up for a while.
>>Ton's of potential here especially if I am able to take the time to learn
>>everything on the board as well as
>>deepening my Cubase chops.
>>
>>
>>I'm keeping a minimal PARIS rig to experiment with as
>>a stereo summing buss. I haven't heard the new rig
>>that way yet though so I'll let you know when I get
>>there. (On that note I'm probably going to need to get
>>a word clock. Is the little Hosa WDC427 worth
>>bothering with? Don't have much left to spend)
>>
>>I still have a KSP8 and BFD to learn and I think
>>the whole purpose of all this stuff is to actually
>>track and finish some tunes so I'm trying to curtail the usual time doing
>>the gear-head, noodle yanking, gear lust thing I'm
>>prone to and actually get a project done with what I have.
>>
>>Anyway, just wanted to give you guys an update and BTW a fair portion of
>>my Paris rig is for sale (See my FS post).
>>
>>Arriva Dishrag,
>>Jon
>>
>>
>oh DOH....
Man, I didn't even think about that one, LOL. Need..... sleep...... ( or
coffee, whichever is more available )
Yup. Coca Cola with real sugar, not the cheapo syrup substitute we get with
"USA" Coca Cola..
The only white powdery substance I mess around with is Sweet'n'Low or flour
if I'm cooking. Occasionally, baking soda but I try to stay away from that
hard stuff :)
AA
"John Macy" <spamlessjohn@johnmacy.com> wrote in message
news:4670ce83@linux...
>
> He is referring to the Mexican Coca-Cola we had while eating carnitas...
> :)
>
> "Aaron Allen" <know-spam@not_here.dude> wrote:
>>
>>"John Macy" <spamlessjohn@johnmacy.com> wrote in message
>>news:4670cbaf$1@linux...
>>>
>>> Hey AA, is it time to go eat again?? :)
>>
>>
>>Why, I believe it is. Bring that Mexican coke w/you. I'll call Fuji here
> in
>>Tulsa, when you comin' down? :)
>>
>>
>>>
>>> Is there a special case for the small laptop drives?
>>
>>yup. See second post my friend - even gave ya a link to go to. If you
>>think
>
>>you'll be tracking any on this machine, do yourself a huge favor.... go
> get
>>a 7200 RPM Seagate. I bought one a few months ago and at a dollar a GIG
> it's
>>a whopping deal for doing audio.
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> "Aaron Allen" <know-spam@not_here.dude> wrote:
>>>>yup. Get a second PC and a USB removable drive case for your laptop
>>>>drive.
>>>
>>>>Pull your hard drive data to a safe location so you can tinker. Put the
>>>
>>>>drive back in the laptop, and do a safe mode reboot. Schedule a
>>>>scandisk,
>>>
>>>>reboot and let it run. Do a reg check also.
>>>>
>>>>.357 optional post data backup.
>>>>
>>>>AA
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>"John Macy" <spamlessjohn@johnmacy.com> wrote in message
>>>>news:4670b6f6$1@linux...
>>>>>
>>>>> So I was sending an email on my AMD Gateway and something
>>>>> crashed--seems
>>>
>>>>> like
>>>>> a combo of things including AOL IM and some Norton the...the Media/IT
>>> at
>>>>> my church studio guy removed AOL but could not get Norton off.
>>>>> Windows
>>>
>>>>> seems
>>>>> a bit scrambled--desktop shows up but a lot of things are not running.
>>> I
>>>>> was going to co
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py off all my needed files and then start over, buuut,
>>> it
>>>>> lets me hit Copy, but will not let me paste it anywhere--it seems to
>
>>>>> find
>>>>> the firewire drive, but Paste is greyed out--won't even let me paste
> it
>>> on
>>>>> the desktop...and ideas short of the .357????
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>This is a multi-part message in MIME format.
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I have a five card, XP, 2 x MEC, 1 x 442 and a Lucid Word clock =
generator
that won't play nice. It was odd to begin with in that the WC cables
had to run in series from the Lucid to Mec A then Mec E in a simpler
configuration. David gave me that advise since he owns the same mobo=20
and hardware as I. =20
Symptoms:
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active. Bad news is it=20
won't allow any inputs except the first 16 on MEC A. All the others =
never show up in the=20
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When wc is in series I lose the EDS cards that are in between A and E =
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This is with or without
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tried a multitude of=20
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but the 442 on Mec A=20
which is unacceptable anyway. It seems to like the 442 last in line =
with card E.
I'm at a loss for a solution at this time. Any suggestions? I'm =
thinking another Mec instead=20
of the 442 is all I can do. I plan to have four Mecs in total if I can =
get three going successfully.
I know Dimitrios was all over this months ago. He suggested Mecs =
instead of 442s.
Anyone else?
TIA,
Tom
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I had issues with the "never appearing audio" on my system but it's been
pretty stable now. It's a four card 2X442 1X MEC system connected to a
Lucid GenX6. Connects for Paris cards are as follows:
A-442
B-442
C-None
D-Mec
The only thing consistent was no consistency. Per Dimitrios,
uninstalled and reinstalled Paris right off the root (c:\ParisPro).
Then terminated all interfaces. Finally, per DJ, tried all matching
length word clock cables. I already had the default project at 48K
(another per DJ).
ONce all this was in place, it has been much more stable again with all
inputs working and showing.
Hope this helps,
Jeff
> I have a five card, XP, 2 x MEC, 1 x 442 and a Lucid Word clock generator
> that won't play nice. It was odd to begin with in that the WC cables
> had to run in series from the Lucid to Mec A then Mec E in a simpler
> configuration. David gave me that advise since he owns the same mobo
> and hardware as I.
>
> Symptoms:
> It will play back projects in parallel wc mode with all five cards
> active. Bad news is it
> won't allow any inputs except the first 16 on MEC A. All the others
> never show up in the
> meters although their associated input lights on the modules light up.
>
> When wc is in series I lose the EDS cards that are in between A and E
> (B, C & D) so no audio
> plays off those cards but all hardware inputs work and print ! Huh?
> This is with or without
> UseHouseSync=1 in the Paris config, with/without termination and I tried
> a multitude of
> combinations of Mecs and 442s connected to different cards. Well, all
> but the 442 on Mec A
> which is unacceptable anyway. It seems to like the 442 last in line
> with card E.
>
> I'm at a loss for a solution at this time. Any suggestions? I'm
> thinking another Mec instead
> of the 442 is all I can do. I plan to have four Mecs in total if I can
> get three going successfully.
>
> I know Dimitrios was all over this months ago. He suggested Mecs
> instead of 442s.
> Anyone else?
>
> TIA,
> Tom
>
>
>
>
> I choose Polesoft Lockspam to fight spam, and you?
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area, do you?
Sarah
"dale" <dalebradleycello@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:46705097$1@linux...
>
> This sounds like fun....my cello will be at the ready in case someone
> starts
> another one
>
>
>
> "Neil" <OIOIU@OIU.com> wrote:
>>
>>I've tried this twice here - no end result... always crapped
>>out before it got beyond a couple of parts. Deej tried it too,
>>I think - or if not him it was someone else who initiated
>>another one.
>>
>>Neil
>>
>>
>>"Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>I remember a couple of years back a bunch of guys off here were starting
>>>to record something by posting disks around...
>>>
>>>...did anything get finished? I never heard anything.
>>>
>>>Cheers,
>>>Kim.
>>
>Hey, it's not my fault you're hot even when you're snorty.
S
"Rod Lincoln" <rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com> wrote in message
news:466ff566$1@linux...
>
> His whole mindset is that the plugins have more headroom and sound better
> when the tracks aren't as hot. I was just wondering what everyone else
> thought.
> Rod
> By the way, the reason this thread went astray IS BECAUSE OF SARAH! IT'S
> HER FAULT!
> ;-)
>
> "Neil" <OIUOIU@OIU.com> wrote:
>>
>>"Sarah" <sarahjane@sarahtonin.com> wrote:
>>>Ooo . . . a Hot Snortyhorse . . . excuse me . . . I need to get some air
>> .
>>
>>Sticking to the original topic of the thread, I have noticed
>>when I've done projects in PTHD (at another facility, since I
>>don't have PT here) the channels tend to redlight pretty
>>easily - hence, when I've imported PT tracks to SX, the levels
>>seem to be a lot lower than what I would normally record at,
>>were I recording in SX or Paris. So, is PT more peak-sensitive?
>>If so could this be part of the problem? IOW, the guy's just
>>not used to seeing stuff go to track that hot?
>>
>>Neil
>nope, down in Eugenetown (though some might consider it a commute)
"Sarah" <sarahjane@sarahtonin.com> wrote:
>Cello . . . ? (ears stand up) . . . Uh . . . you don't live in the Portland
>area, do you?
>
>Sarah
>
>
>"dale" <dalebradleycello@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>news:46705097$1@linux...
>>
>> This sounds like fun....my cello will be at the ready in case someone
>> starts
>> another one
>>
>>
>>
>> "Neil" <OIOIU@OIU.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>I've tried this twice here - no end result... always crapped
>>>out before it got beyond a couple of parts. Deej tried it too,
>>>I think - or if not him it was someone else who initiated
>>>another one.
>>>
>>>Neil
>>>
>>>
>>>"Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>I remember a couple of years back a bunch of guys off here were starting
>>>>to record something by posting disks around...
>>>>
>>>>...did anything get finished? I never heard anything.
>>>>
>>>>Cheers,
>>>>Kim.
>>>
>>
>
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I had the same problem running three MECs and a 442. Losing the 442 in =
favor of another MEC solved the problem........prbably because Paris =
likes to see a clock signal on all interfaces when it boots, at least =
with mine, this seemed to be the case. The 442 is not able to see a =
clock signal until after it initializes which is during bootup so it's =
not siyncing at the same time as the other devices. Also, with my =
system, each MEC was being sent a separate clock feed from the GenX6, =
not daisy chained.=20
Try this:
1. Turn on WC (set it to 44.1 if that's what you use for =
tracking/mixing).
2. Turn on any other devices that are interfacing with the WC (including =
MECs-obviously you can't do this with a 442 since it gets it's power =
from the computer-which, as stated above, may be the problem)
3. Boot PC
4. Launch Windows
3. Go to Paris folder in your Program Files and launch Paris.exe from =
that folder
5. Set project to 48KHz (very important that the default project.ppj be =
set to 48KHz), sync source external, save project under the name =
"default project" (no quotes) to your Paris directory in the program =
files folder and save it again under the same name to your desktop.
6. Close Paris
7. Reboot computer
Launch Paris from the desktop "default project.ppj". I've still got that =
MEC here if you want to give it a try. The reason I was using a 4 MEC =
system is because 3 x MECS and a 442 never did work reliably for me.
Deej
"Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote in message =
news:4670de3c$1@linux...
I have a five card, XP, 2 x MEC, 1 x 442 and a Lucid Word clock =
generator
that won't play nice. It was odd to begin with in that the WC cables
had to run in series from the Lucid to Mec A then Mec E in a simpler
configuration. David gave me that advise since he owns the same mobo=20
and hardware as I. =20
Symptoms:
It will play back projects in parallel wc mode with all five cards =
active. Bad news is it=20
won't allow any inputs except the first 16 on MEC A. All the others =
never show up in the=20
meters although their associated input lights on the modules light up. =
=20
When wc is in series I lose the EDS cards that are in between A and E =
(B, C & D) so no audio=20
plays off those cards but all hardware inputs work and print ! Huh? =
This is with or without
UseHouseSync=3D1 in the Paris config, with/without termination and I =
tried a multitude of=20
combinations of Mecs and 442s connected to different cards. Well, all =
but the 442 on Mec A=20
which is unacceptable anyway. It seems to like the 442 last in line =
with card E.
I'm at a loss for a solution at this time. Any suggestions? I'm =
thinking another Mec instead=20
of the 442 is all I can do. I plan to have four Mecs in total if I =
can get three going successfully.
I know Dimitrios was all over this months ago. He suggested Mecs =
instead of 442s.
Anyone else?
TIA,
Tom
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<DIV><EM><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I had the same problem running =
three MECs and a=20
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problem........prbably=20
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boots, at=20
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to see a clock signal until after it initializes which =
is during=20
bootup so it's not siyncing at the same time as the other devices.=20
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separate clock=20
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<DIV><EM><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT></EM> </DIV>
<DIV><EM><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Try this:</FONT></EM></DIV>
<DIV><EM><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT></EM> </DIV>
<DIV><EM><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>1. Turn on WC (set it to 44.1 if =
that's what=20
you use for tracking/mixing).</FONT></EM></DIV>
<DIV><EM><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>2. Turn on any other devices that =
are=20
interfacing with the WC (including MECs-obviously you can't do this with =
a 442=20
since it gets it's power from the computer-which, as stated =
above, may be=20
the problem)</FONT></EM></DIV>
<DIV><EM><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>3. Boot PC</FONT></EM></DIV>
<DIV><EM><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>4. Launch Windows</FONT></EM></DIV>
<DIV><EM><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>3. Go to Paris folder in your =
Program Files and=20
launch Paris.exe from that folder</FONT></EM></DIV>
<DIV><EM><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>5. Set project to 48KHz=20
(<STRONG><U>very</U></STRONG> important that the default project.ppj be =
set to=20
48KHz), sync source external, save project under the name "default =
project"=20
(no quotes) to your Paris directory in the program files folder and save =
it=20
again under the same name to your desktop.</FONT></EM></DIV>
<DIV><EM><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>6. Close Paris</FONT></EM></DIV>
<DIV><EM><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>7. Reboot =
computer</FONT></EM></DIV>
<DIV><EM><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT></EM> </DIV>
<DIV><EM><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Launch Paris from the desktop =
"default=20
project.ppj". I've still got that MEC here if you want to give it a try. =
The=20
reason I was using a 4 MEC system is because 3 x MECS and a 442 never =
did work=20
reliably for me.</FONT></EM></DIV>
<DIV><EM><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT></EM> </DIV>
<DIV><EM><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Deej</FONT></EM></DIV>
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<DIV>"Tom Bruhl" <<A=20
href=3D"mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A>> wrote =
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<DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" color=3D#800000 size=3D2>I have =
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XP, 2 x MEC, 1 x 442 and a Lucid Word clock generator</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" color=3D#800000 size=3D2>that won't =
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nice. It was odd to begin with in that the WC =
cables</FONT></DIV>
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from the=20
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<DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" color=3D#800000>configuration. =
David gave=20
me that advise since he owns the same mobo </FONT></DIV>
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I. =20
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<DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" color=3D#800000 =
size=3D2>Symptoms:</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" color=3D#800000 size=3D2>It will =
play back=20
projects in parallel wc mode with all five cards =
active. =20
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is it=20
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first=20
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A. All=20
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</FONT><FONT=20
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associated input=20
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</FONT><FONT=20
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inputs work=20
and print ! Huh? This is with or without</FONT></DIV>
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size=3D2>UseHouseSync=3D1 in the=20
Paris config, with/without termination </FONT><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans =
MS"=20
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size=3D2>combinations of Mecs and=20
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</FONT><FONT=20
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<DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" color=3D#800000 size=3D2>I'm at a =
loss for a=20
solution at this time. Any suggestions? I'm thinking =
another Mec=20
instead </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" color=3D#800000 size=3D2>of the 442 =
is all I can=20
do. I plan to have four Mecs in total if I can get three =
going=20
successfully.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" color=3D#800000></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" color=3D#800000>I know Dimitrios was =
all over=20
this months ago. He suggested Mecs instead of =
442s.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" color=3D#800000>Anyone =
else?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" color=3D#800000></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" color=3D#800000>TIA,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" color=3D#800000>Tom</FONT></DIV>
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------=_NextPart_000_0022_01C7AE50.3E35D300--The Paris D/A converters are prone to some pretty extreme jitter when using
Paris clock. This improves significantly when an external clock is used.
Deej
"cujo" <chris@applemanstudio.com> wrote in message news:466d5851$1@linux...
>
>
> I've had a LA Audio WC generator for my 2 card (1 MEC with 8in/Int2 and 1
> 442/ Int2) system for a couple of years. When I addeded it I am sure a
> noticed
> increased clarity especially in things like reverb.Could I have been
> fooling
> myself? I have Katz book, what he says about "ephemeral" difference makes
> sense. But I do now run my mixes externally to a mix comp so there is
> AD/DA
> going on again where jitter could be an issue.
> But what about the internal clock is it better? I did not see where Katz
> says 2 devices or less would be better internally clocked, WOuld all those
> interfaces be considered more than 2?
>
>
> "Aaron Allen" <know-spam@not_here.dude> wrote:
>>Got one.. as of yet to unpack it :)
>>
>>AA
>>
>>
>>"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>news:466c2908$1@linux...
>>>
>>> I'm of the mind set that there are newer more accurate clocks than in
> the
>>> past. The past like as in Paris. By the way, did anybody ever try the
>>> Hosa WDC-427? What was the result?
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>> James
>>>
>>> "Neil" <OIUOIU@OIU.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>Bill L <bill@billlorentzen.com> wrote:
>>>>>Here is a link to a thread on Gearslutz
>>>>> http://www.gearslutz.com/board/so-much-gear-so-little-time/1 23597-black-lion-microclock.html
>>>>>about this unit. No one had tried it yet, but they brought up an
>>>>>interesting point about how adding an external clock to fewer than 4
>>>>>units will likely reduce the audio quality rather than improve it.
>>>>
>>>>Interesting... anyone else encounter this fact/phenomena?
>>>>I'm using an external clock, and the last time I a/b'ed using
>>>>the external clock (which is a Lucid GenX6/96 - I guess a
>>>>decent, midrange-level clock) vs. the Multiface's clock as the
>>>>master, I could perceive "some" difference, but as I recall, I
>>>>couldn't really say which was better... this was awhile ago, so
>>>>maybe I should try it again & see if I can hear a difference.
>>>>
>>>>I've just been using the external clock, since I was always
>>>>under the impression that if you're clocking more than TWO
>>>>devices, it's a good idea to have an external clock. Now,
>>>>according to some folks, it seems if you're clocking less then
>>>>five devices it's a good idea NOT to use one?
>>>>
>>>>So which is it? lol Now i'm really confused.
>>>>
>>>>Neil
>>>
>>
>>
>Thanks! I need to decide what to put in my last two slots, although I seem
to be having issues with the pres in slot one and two all of a sudden, I
need to hunt down the culprit, could be a bad snake. I hope it was just a
ghost.
Anyway, I was thinking the A Designs would be great for overheads, vocals
acoustic git that sort of thing.
"wireline" <wirelinestudio@nospam.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>
>Not at all...although there are minor differences in sonic response based
>primarily in the phsical limitations of space and transformer size, both
>are top notch, and both have been used interchangeably here. The Pacifica
>IMO ekes out in sheer sonic power, while the P1 is more a finesse piece
-
>if that makes any sense
>
>"cujo" <chris@applemanstudio.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>Do you hear much of a downgrade using the p1 as opposed to the pacifica?
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>"wireline" <wirelinestudionospam@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>Yes...I have, use, and endorse both...IMO the ADesigns stuff is the most
>>versitile
>>>and colored with a pleasing bouquet of anything else I've used, including
>>>Neves, API, ADL, Millenia, etc..
>>>
>>>I would not hesitate to (and have done so a time or two) use exclusively
>>>the Pacifica and P1s for an entire CD project.
>>>
>>>> Anyone here tried the A design Pacifica or the P1?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>I bought one of those cheapo CD players at WalMart and thought I was losing
my mind when I used it for referencing CD's. The converters were soooooo bad
that "everything" I played on it sucked. Try playing back some other program
material and check for suckage........it may be "it" and not "you" .
Deej
"Brandon" <a@a.com> wrote in message news:46689f25$1@linux...
>
> Neil,
>
> I just put those L2s to be sure nothing was clipping.
> The thresholds are at Zero and the output is -2db.
> The problem is I dont hear it on my system. I hear it
> on my portable CD player with my AKG headphones.
> You dont hear it on a boombox or home stereo or car stereo.
> The source material is not clipped I am sure.
> Could this be a buffer setting that is screwing my export up?
> thx
> b
>
>
>
>
>
>
> "Neil" <IUOI@OIU.com> wrote:
>>
>>Isolate one of the artifacts & zoom all the way in & see if you
>>see a little spike on the waveform. If that's the case, then
>>you need to edit those tiny sections somehow, if it's not, then
>>start your processing with one plugin at a time until you hear
>>it, then you'll know what's causing it (if it's a plugin).
>>
>>They're happeneing in the same places every time, right?
>>
>>That's all I can think of - Apart from the fact that you're
>>absolutely psycho to be using three L2's in a row on a piece of
>>this nature - lol! Are you perhaps clipping things that are
>>already clipped, then clipping those clipped clips one last
>>time before it hits your ears?
>>
>>Neil
>>
>>"Brandon" <a@a.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>No no Autotune.
>>>Vox main chain is:
>>>Waves EQ (cutting only)
>>>WavesL2
>>>
>>>Vox FX channel chain is:
>>>SIR
>>>WavesL2
>>>
>>>Main Bus Chain is:
>>>WavesEQ(cutting only)
>>>Waves L2
>>>
>>>thx
>>>b
>>>
>>>EK Sound <askme@nospam.com> wrote:
>>>>Do you have Autotune on the lead vox? I have found that plug to have
>
>>>>NO headroom...
>>>>
>>>>David.
>>>>
>>>>Brandon wrote:
>>>>> All,
>>>>>
>>>>> I have finished that mix I posted earlier.
>>>>> I incorporated a few dbs on the lead vox, a touch of the highs on th
>>guitars
>>>>> and few other minor things.
>>>>> No there is one major thing that is annoying the h@ll out of me.
>>>>> I dont know if you can hear it on the MP3s I posted , but there is
>>>>> noticable
>>>>> distortion on the loud parts of the lead vocal.
>>>>> I dont hear these on my mixing monitors during playback.
>>>>> I thought it was the Antares Tube plug which I removed completely.
>>>>> That
>>>was
>>>>> not it. I finally thru a limiter on the lead vox channel and also on
>>the
>>>>> vox FX channel just for good measure. I backed off of the threshold
> on
>>>the
>>>>> main bus limiter by 2 db. It was set at -18 I took it to -16. You can
>>>see
>>>>> my mix was not very hot. This got rid of 75% of the problem. Now I
>>>>> hear
>>>little
>>>>> artifacts on the lead vox that sound like processing artifacts to me.
>>>I am
>>>>> wondering if SIR is doing this?? It is not wrapped. To mixdown I use
>>the
>>>>> EXPORT in CUBASE SX3. Could it be somethng related to that method? Any
>>>ideas?
>>>>> Thanks B
>>>
>>
>I hate it when singers start "croaking" in my micorphones;
;o)
"Graham Duncan" <graham@grahamduncan.com> wrote in message
news:466af06b@linux...
> Brandon wrote:
>> Well it wasnt clipping. If I were to guess I would say
>> it sounded more like a clocking issue or power supply issue.
>> It was kind of a fuzzy, phasey distorted thing. I plugged in the
>> headphones
>> to the DAW and listened to the live feed. I was there. After stripping
>> away
>> one thing at a time I eventually got down to the unprocessed lead vox
>> track
>> and there it was. I dont know how I didnt hear this during tracking...
>> Well
>> I guess actually I do.. I wasnt listening thru headphones I was listening
>> thru the monitors. I cant hear it in the monitors.Anyway I was able to
>> grab
>> the phrase from later in the trak and copy it over and that fixed it.
>> This
>> is very unsettling. I wonder if it is the tube in my mic...??? How would
>> I go about finding that out?
>> thx again for everyones input.
>> b
>
> I've had this happen on vocals too (mostly on tracks I've been sent for
> mixing). Most of the time it's a lip or back throat smack/croak that's
> not that loud by itself but in the mix gets lifted out to sound like
> clipping. I don't think it's the mic... though some mics bring it out
> more. I wouldn't worry about it unless it happens a lot.
>
> Samplitude's Spectral Cleaner is a brilliant tool for fixing this sort of
> thing.
>
> GrahamSome major suckage happens in "pro" studios........and I mean
"major".......and some of them on't give a major **** about it either. Don;t
let this get you down man. It's good that you care. Keep learning. One thing
I've learned about tracking to Cubase and my RME converters is that the
system seems to behave very differently from Paris and for whatever reason,
I have more clipping (and other strangeness) issues. for some reason, Paris
seemed to be more forgiving while tracking (or I just knew my calibration
levels a bit better relative to certain preamp gain setting that I used
regulary enough to be familiar with that didn't work the same with the RME
converters)
Deej
"Brandon" <A@A.com> wrote in message news:466c5825$1@linux...
>
> Neil,
>
> ok..
> There was clipping at several different places..
> That was fixed by backing off of the threshold on the L2
> on the main bus.
>
> After that was fixed I could then notice the artifacts on the first couple
> phrases of the vox...the Mmmm's in the beginning and the phrase after it.
> Seems to go away after that.
>
> I am going to sweat it because if I wasnt lucky enough to have that same
> phrase later in the song it would have been a bust.
> Well Maybe not..there were other takes, but what if there wasn't??? :-0
>
> I will try and duplicate the artifacts like you said.
> I am always telling my friends "Why don't you record with me instead of
> ABC
> Recording Studio?. I can give you the same quality, with better service,
> etc..." and then this sh*t happens and it makes me not want to solicite
> work
> cause I am afraid of embarassment. This doesnt happen to "pro studos" does
> it?
> Am I being too critical?
> thx
> b
>
>
>
> "Neil" <OIUIU@IOU.com> wrote:
>>
>>I don't think it's an "over", though - from the way he was
>>describing it. At first I thought he was talking about some
>>clipping that was happening at several places, but this is some
>>kind of one-time tiny little low-level noise... is that correct,
>>Brandon?
>>
>>Like I said, if it's a one-time event, there might be no way to
>>diagnose what caused it... best thing I would suggest before
>>you go spend money on something you may not need (although a
>>power conditioner is never a bad idea), try & get it to
>>duplicate without guinea-pigging your next client to find it -
>>record yourself singing with the exact same setup... just sing
>>something/anything accapella for about 4-5 minutes & see if any
>>of the same kind of noises show up on the recorded track. If it
>>does, switch mics & do it again, then search for noises... if
>>they still show up, switch preamps & try it again & so on.
>>IOW, process of elimination... if the noises show up no matter
>>what part of the signal chain you switch out, then it could be
>>power, or clocking, or ???
>>
>>But honestly, if this was one little noise that occurred over a
>>few hours worth of level-checking, tracking, and punching, etc,
>>I wouldn't even worry about it... seriously. It's just one of
>>those weird little things that's not worth sweating over unless
>>it shows up again.
>>
>>Neil
>>
>>
>>"Aaron Allen" <know-spam@not_here.dude> wrote:
>>>Another trick is to always track with two mics/pres, one set a few db
>>>lower
>>
>>>than the next. It's a simple proposition of copy/paste to fix overs that
>>way
>>>if you use the same mic/pre on both sides.
>>>
>>>AA
>>>
>>>
>>>"Brandon" <A@A.com> wrote in message news:466b3b16$1@linux...
>>>>
>>>> I am always hearing these types of things so I thnik in my case I
>>>> should
>>
>>>> try
>>>> to narrow it down.
>>>> I was really hoping this sort of thing would go away after moving to
>
>>>> Cubase....I
>>>> think a power conditioner would be a good start. If that doesnt fix
>>>> it...
>>>> Crap I dont know.. My PS in my comp is brand new and plentiful. Motu
> and
>>>> Presonus are new. Mics hardly have any wear on them.
>>>> B
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Graham Duncan <graham@grahamduncan.com> wrote:
>>>>>Brandon wrote:
>>>>>> Well it wasnt clipping. If I were to guess I would say
>>>>>> it sounded more like a clocking issue or power supply issue.
>>>>>> It was kind of a fuzzy, phasey distorted thing. I plugged in the
>>>>>> headphones
>>>>>> to the DAW and listened to the live feed. I was there. After
>>>>>> stripping
>>>> away
>>>>>> one thing at a time I eventually got down to the unprocessed lead vox
>>>> track
>>>>>> and there it was. I dont know how I didnt hear this during
>>>>>> tracking...
>>>> Well
>>>>>> I guess actually I do.. I wasnt listening thru headphones I was
>>>>>> listening
>>>>>> thru the monitors. I cant hear it in the monitors.Anyway I was able
>>to
>>>> grab
>>>>>> the phrase from later in the trak and copy it over and that fixed it.
>>>> This
>>>>>> is very unsettling. I wonder if it is the tube in my mic...??? How
> would
>>>>>> I go about finding that out?
>>>>>> thx again for everyones input.
>>>>>> b
>>>>>
>>>>>I've had this happen on vocals too (mostly on tracks I've been sent for
>>>>
>>>>>mixing). Most of the time it's a lip or back throat smack/croak
>>>>>that's
>>>>
>>>>>not that loud by itself but in the mix gets lifted out to sound like
>>>>>clipping. I don't think it's the mic... though some mics bring it out
>>>>>more. I wouldn't worry about it unless it happens a lot.
>>>>>
>>>>>Samplitude's Spectral Cleaner is a brilliant tool for fixing this sort
>>>>>of thing.
>>>>>
>>>>>Graham
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>Oh thanks Deej
"DJ" <www.aarrrrggghhh!!!.com> wrote:
>The Paris D/A converters are prone to some pretty extreme jitter when using
>Paris clock. This improves significantly when an external clock is used.
>
>Deej
>
>"cujo" <chris@applemanstudio.com> wrote in message news:466d5851$1@linux...
>>
>>
>> I've had a LA Audio WC generator for my 2 card (1 MEC with 8in/Int2 and
1
>> 442/ Int2) system for a couple of years. When I addeded it I am sure a
>> noticed
>> increased clarity especially in things like reverb.Could I have been
>> fooling
>> myself? I have Katz book, what he says about "ephemeral" difference makes
>> sense. But I do now run my mixes externally to a mix comp so there is
>> AD/DA
>> going on again where jitter could be an issue.
>> But what about the internal clock is it better? I did not see where Katz
>> says 2 devices or less would be better internally clocked, WOuld all those
>> interfaces be considered more than 2?
>>
>>
>> "Aaron Allen" <know-spam@not_here.dude> wrote:
>>>Got one.. as of yet to unpack it :)
>>>
>>>AA
>>>
>>>
>>>"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>>news:466c2908$1@linux...
>>>>
>>>> I'm of the mind set that there are newer more accurate clocks than in
>> the
>>>> past. The past like as in Paris. By the way, did anybody ever try
the
>>>> Hosa WDC-427? What was the result?
>>>>
>>>> Thanks
>>>> James
>>>>
>>>> "Neil" <OIUOIU@OIU.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>Bill L <bill@billlorentzen.com> wrote:
>>>>>>Here is a link to a thread on Gearslutz
>>>>>> http://www.gearslutz.com/board/so-much-gear-so-little-time/1 23597-black-lion-microclock.html
>>>>>>about this unit. No one had tried it yet, but they brought up an
>>>>>>interesting point about how adding an external clock to fewer than
4
>>>>>>units will likely reduce the audio quality rather than improve it.
>>>>>
>>>>>Interesting... anyone else encounter this fact/phenomena?
>>>>>I'm using an external clock, and the last time I a/b'ed using
>>>>>the external clock (which is a Lucid GenX6/96 - I guess a
>>>>>decent, midrange-level clock) vs. the Multiface's clock as the
>>>>>master, I could perceive "some" difference, but as I recall, I
>>>>>couldn't really say which was better... this was awhile ago, so
>>>>>maybe I should try it again & see if I can hear a difference.
>>>>>
>>>>>I've just been using the external clock, since I was always
>>>>>under the impression that if you're clocking more than TWO
>>>>>devices, it's a good idea to have an external clock. Now,
>>>>>according to some folks, it seems if you're clocking less then
>>>>>five devices it's a good idea NOT to use one?
>>>>>
>>>>>So which is it? lol Now i'm really confused.
>>>>>
>>>>>Neil
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>
>Jon -
I am very interested in your experiences with the Tascam board. I am
hoping to pick up a DM4800 as soon as I sell off enough gear to pay
for it.
In my case, I am thinking that I will refocus my studio from a
Paris-centric setup to one using the DM4800 and, maybe, Sonar. This
will be my tracking and mixing station, but I will still keep Paris
for the final mixes.
If you are anywhere in the Maryland/Pa/DC/Va region, I would love a
demo of the 3200.
- Paul Artola
Ellicott City, Maryland
On 14 Jun 2007 09:18:58 +1000, "Jon Jiles" <nojij@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>Hey peeps,
>
>You, know, I'm really liking the DM3200 with Cubase 4
>though James was absolutely right about the learning curve
>when he advised me to give it 30 days with the
>manual.
>
>My only prob is that, with my day job, that month almost
>literally becomes a month of Sundays!!!!!
>
>Anyway I have to say that Tascam has done a really
>good job with the new MKII firewire card. It makes the boardd work really
>well as a controller and actually sounds better than I had expected. The
>guys at the DM3200/4800 forum are
>helpul, good guys too. There's some useful info there. Can't comment on the
>mic pre's yet cause I haven't done any "live" tracking yet.
>
>In a nutshell, while I lament the fact that no one picked
>up the Paris banner and kept it a current, valid tool,
>I've seen enough to decide I'm committed to this new set-up for a while.
>Ton's of potential here especially if I am able to take the time to learn
>everything on the board as well as
>deepening my Cubase chops.
>
>
>I'm keeping a minimal PARIS rig to experiment with as
>a stereo summing buss. I haven't heard the new rig
>that way yet though so I'll let you know when I get
>there. (On that note I'm probably going to need to get
>a word clock. Is the little Hosa WDC427 worth
>bothering with? Don't have much left to spend)
>
>I still have a KSP8 and BFD to learn and I think
>the whole purpose of all this stuff is to actually
>track and finish some tunes so I'm trying to curtail the usual time doing
>the gear-head, noodle yanking, gear lust thing I'm
>prone to and actually get a project done with what I have.
>
>Anyway, just wanted to give you guys an update and BTW a fair portion of
>my Paris rig is for sale (See my FS post).
>
>Arriva Dishrag,
>Jon
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Thanks guys. I will give your suggestions a try. I do have equal =
length WC cables.
I will need that MEC Deej. Let me trouble shoot a little more just to =
see if anything
helps my situation. Maybe even today if I can finish the 1,000 things =
in front of that=20
that I have to do.
Thanks tons,
Tom
"DJ" <www.aarrrrggghhh!!!.com> wrote in message news:46713b25@linux...
I had the same problem running three MECs and a 442. Losing the 442 in =
favor of another MEC solved the problem........prbably because Paris =
likes to see a clock signal on all interfaces when it boots, at least =
with mine, this seemed to be the case. The 442 is not able to see a =
clock signal until after it initializes which is during bootup so it's =
not siyncing at the same time as the other devices. Also, with my =
system, each MEC was being sent a separate clock feed from the GenX6, =
not daisy chained.=20
Try this:
1. Turn on WC (set it to 44.1 if that's what you use for =
tracking/mixing).
2. Turn on any other devices that are interfacing with the WC =
(including MECs-obviously you can't do this with a 442 since it gets =
it's power from the computer-which, as stated above, may be the problem)
3. Boot PC
4. Launch Windows
3. Go to Paris folder in your Program Files and launch Paris.exe from =
that folder
5. Set project to 48KHz (very important that the default project.ppj =
be set to 48KHz), sync source external, save project under the name =
"default project" (no quotes) to your Paris directory in the program =
files folder and save it again under the same name to your desktop.
6. Close Paris
7. Reboot computer
Launch Paris from the desktop "default project.ppj". I've still got =
that MEC here if you want to give it a try. The reason I was using a 4 =
MEC system is because 3 x MECS and a 442 never did work reliably for me.
Deej
"Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote in message =
news:4670de3c$1@linux...
I have a five card, XP, 2 x MEC, 1 x 442 and a Lucid Word clock =
generator
that won't play nice. It was odd to begin with in that the WC =
cables
had to run in series from the Lucid to Mec A then Mec E in a simpler
configuration. David gave me that advise since he owns the same =
mobo=20
and hardware as I. =20
Symptoms:
It will play back projects in parallel wc mode with all five cards =
active. Bad news is it=20
won't allow any inputs except the first 16 on MEC A. All the others =
never show up in the=20
meters although their associated input lights on the modules light =
up. =20
When wc is in series I lose the EDS cards that are in between A and =
E (B, C & D) so no audio=20
plays off those cards but all hardware inputs work and print ! Huh? =
This is with or without
UseHouseSync=3D1 in the Paris config, with/without termination and I =
tried a multitude of=20
combinations of Mecs and 442s connected to different cards. Well, =
all but the 442 on Mec A=20
which is unacceptable anyway. It seems to like the 442 last in line =
with card E.
I'm at a loss for a solution at this time. Any suggestions? I'm =
thinking another Mec instead=20
of the 442 is all I can do. I plan to have four Mecs in total if I =
can get three going successfully.
I know Dimitrios was all over this months ago. He suggested Mecs =
instead of 442s.
Anyone else?
TIA,
Tom
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I will need that MEC Deej. Let me =
trouble=20
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>helps my situation. Maybe even =
today if I can=20
finish the 1,000 things in front of that </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>that </FONT><FONT face=3DArial =
size=3D2>I have to=20
do.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Thanks tons,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Tom</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
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<DIV>"DJ" <<A=20
=
href=3D"http://www.aarrrrggghhh!!!.com">www.aarrrrggghhh!!!.com</A>> =
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<DIV><EM><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I had the same problem running =
three MECs and=20
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problem........prbably because Paris likes to see a clock signal on =
all=20
interfaces when it boots, at least with mine, this seemed to be the =
case. The=20
442 is not able to see a clock signal until after it =
initializes=20
which is during bootup so it's not siyncing at the same time =
as the=20
other devices. Also, with my system, each MEC was being =
sent a=20
separate clock feed from the GenX6, not daisy chained. =
</FONT></EM></DIV>
<DIV><EM><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT></EM> </DIV>
<DIV><EM><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Try this:</FONT></EM></DIV>
<DIV><EM><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT></EM> </DIV>
<DIV><EM><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>1. Turn on WC (set it to 44.1 if =
that's what=20
you use for tracking/mixing).</FONT></EM></DIV>
<DIV><EM><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>2. Turn on any other devices that =
are=20
interfacing with the WC (including MECs-obviously you can't do this =
with a 442=20
since it gets it's power from the computer-which, as stated =
above, may be=20
the problem)</FONT></EM></DIV>
<DIV><EM><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>3. Boot PC</FONT></EM></DIV>
<DIV><EM><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>4. Launch =
Windows</FONT></EM></DIV>
<DIV><EM><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>3. Go to Paris folder in your =
Program Files=20
and launch Paris.exe from that folder</FONT></EM></DIV>
<DIV><EM><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>5. Set project to 48KHz=20
(<STRONG><U>very</U></STRONG> important that the default project.ppj =
be set to=20
48KHz), sync source external, save project under the =
name "default=20
project" (no quotes) to your Paris directory in the program files =
folder and=20
save it again under the same name to your desktop.</FONT></EM></DIV>
<DIV><EM><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>6. Close Paris</FONT></EM></DIV>
<DIV><EM><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>7. Reboot =
computer</FONT></EM></DIV>
<DIV><EM><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT></EM> </DIV>
<DIV><EM><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Launch Paris from the desktop =
"default=20
project.ppj". I've still got that MEC here if you want to give it a =
try. The=20
reason I was using a 4 MEC system is because 3 x MECS and a 442 never =
did work=20
reliably for me.</FONT></EM></DIV>
<DIV><EM><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT></EM> </DIV>
<DIV><EM><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Deej</FONT></EM></DIV>
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<DIV><EM><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT></EM> </DIV>
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<DIV>"Tom Bruhl" <<A=20
href=3D"mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A>> =
wrote in=20
message <A =
href=3D"news:4670de3c$1@linux">news:4670de3c$1@linux</A>...</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" color=3D#800000 size=3D2>I have =
a five=20
card, XP, 2 x MEC, 1 x 442 and a Lucid Word clock =
generator</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" color=3D#800000 size=3D2>that =
won't play=20
nice. It was odd to begin with in that the WC =
cables</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" color=3D#800000>had to run in =
series from the=20
Lucid to Mec A then Mec E in a simpler</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" =
color=3D#800000>configuration. David=20
gave me that advise since he owns the same mobo </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" color=3D#800000>and hardware as =
I. =20
</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" color=3D#800000 =
size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" color=3D#800000 =
size=3D2>Symptoms:</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" color=3D#800000 size=3D2>It will =
play back=20
projects in parallel wc mode with all five cards =
active. =20
</FONT><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" color=3D#800000 size=3D2>Bad =
news is it=20
</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" color=3D#800000 size=3D2>won't =
allow=20
</FONT><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" color=3D#800000 size=3D2>any =
inputs except the=20
first </FONT><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" color=3D#800000 =
size=3D2>16 on MEC=20
A. All the others never show up in the </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" color=3D#800000 size=3D2>meters =
</FONT><FONT=20
face=3D"Comic Sans MS" color=3D#800000 size=3D2>although their =
associated input=20
lights on the modules </FONT><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" =
color=3D#800000=20
size=3D2>light up. </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" color=3D#800000 =
size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" color=3D#800000 =
size=3D2>When wc is in=20
series I lose the EDS cards that </FONT><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" =
color=3D#800000 size=3D2>are in between A and E (B, C & D) so no =
audio=20
</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" color=3D#800000 =
size=3D2>plays </FONT><FONT=20
face=3D"Comic Sans MS" color=3D#800000 size=3D2>off those cards =
</FONT><FONT=20
face=3D"Comic Sans MS" color=3D#800000 size=3D2>but =
all hardware inputs work=20
and print ! Huh? This is with or without</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" color=3D#800000 =
size=3D2>UseHouseSync=3D1 in the=20
Paris config, with/without termination </FONT><FONT face=3D"Comic =
Sans MS"=20
color=3D#800000 size=3D2>and I tried a multitude of </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" color=3D#800000 =
size=3D2>combinations of Mecs=20
and 442s </FONT><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" color=3D#800000 =
size=3D2>connected to=20
different cards. Well, all but the 442 on Mec A </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" color=3D#800000 size=3D2>which =
</FONT><FONT=20
face=3D"Comic Sans MS" color=3D#800000 size=3D2>is unacceptable =
anyway. It=20
seems to like the 442 last in line with card E.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" color=3D#800000 =
size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" color=3D#800000 size=3D2>I'm at a =
loss for a=20
solution at this time. Any suggestions? I'm thinking =
another Mec=20
instead </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" color=3D#800000 size=3D2>of the =
442 is all I can=20
do. I plan to have four Mecs in total if I can get three =
going=20
successfully.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" =
color=3D#800000></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" color=3D#800000>I know Dimitrios =
was all over=20
this months ago. He suggested Mecs instead of =
442s.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" color=3D#800000>Anyone =
else?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" =
color=3D#800000></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" color=3D#800000>TIA,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" color=3D#800000>Tom</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" =
color=3D#800000></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS"=20
color=3D#800000></FONT> </DIV></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2><BR><BR>I choose Polesoft Lockspam to fight =
spam, and=20
you?<BR><A=20
=
href=3D"http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html">http://www.polesoft.com/refer=
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That's reassuring... I think.....
--=20
Thanks,
Brandon=20
"DJ" <www.aarrrrggghhh!!!.com> wrote in message news:46714584$1@linux...
Some major suckage happens in "pro" studios........and I mean=20
"major".......and some of them on't give a major **** about it either. =
Don;t=20
let this get you down man. It's good that you care. Keep learning. One =
thing=20
I've learned about tracking to Cubase and my RME converters is that =
the=20
system seems to behave very differently from Paris and for whatever =
reason,=20
I have more clipping (and other strangeness) issues. for some reason, =
Paris=20
seemed to be more forgiving while tracking (or I just knew my =
calibration=20
levels a bit better relative to certain preamp gain setting that I =
used=20
regulary enough to be familiar with that didn't work the same with the =
RME=20
converters)
Deej
"Brandon" <A@A.com> wrote in message news:466c5825$1@linux...
>
> Neil,
>
> ok..
> There was clipping at several different places..
> That was fixed by backing off of the threshold on the L2
> on the main bus.
>
> After that was fixed I could then notice the artifacts on the first =
couple
> phrases of the vox...the Mmmm's in the beginning and the phrase =
after it.
> Seems to go away after that.
>
> I am going to sweat it because if I wasnt lucky enough to have that =
same
> phrase later in the song it would have been a bust.
> Well Maybe not..there were other takes, but what if there wasn't??? =
:-0
>
> I will try and duplicate the artifacts like you said.
> I am always telling my friends "Why don't you record with me instead =
of=20
> ABC
> Recording Studio?. I can give you the same quality, with better =
service,
> etc..." and then this sh*t happens and it makes me not want to =
solicite=20
> work
> cause I am afraid of embarassment. This doesnt happen to "pro =
studos" does
> it?
> Am I being too critical?
> thx
> b
>
>
>
> "Neil" <OIUIU@IOU.com> wrote:
>>
>>I don't think it's an "over", though - from the way he was
>>describing it. At first I thought he was talking about some
>>clipping that was happening at several places, but this is some
>>kind of one-time tiny little low-level noise... is that correct,
>>Brandon?
>>
>>Like I said, if it's a one-time event, there might be no way to
>>diagnose what caused it... best thing I would suggest before
>>you go spend money on something you may not need (although a
>>power conditioner is never a bad idea), try & get it to
>>duplicate without guinea-pigging your next client to find it -
>>record yourself singing with the exact same setup... just sing
>>something/anything accapella for about 4-5 minutes & see if any
>>of the same kind of noises show up on the recorded track. If it
>>does, switch mics & do it again, then search for noises... if
>>they still show up, switch preamps & try it again & so on.
>>IOW, process of elimination... if the noises show up no matter
>>what part of the signal chain you switch out, then it could be
>>power, or clocking, or ???
>>
>>But honestly, if this was one little noise that occurred over a
>>few hours worth of level-checking, tracking, and punching, etc,
>>I wouldn't even worry about it... seriously. It's just one of
>>those weird little things that's not worth sweating over unless
>>it shows up again.
>>
>>Neil
>>
>>
>>"Aaron Allen" <know-spam@not_here.dude> wrote:
>>>Another trick is to always track with two mics/pres, one set a few =
db=20
>>>lower
>>
>>>than the next. It's a simple proposition of copy/paste to fix overs =
that
>>way
>>>if you use the same mic/pre on both sides.
>>>
>>>AA
>>>
>>>
>>>"Brandon" <A@A.com> wrote in message news:466b3b16$1@linux...
>>>>
>>>> I am always hearing these types of things so I thnik in my case I =
>>>> should
>>
>>>> try
>>>> to narrow it down.
>>>> I was really hoping this sort of thing would go away after moving =
to
>
>>>> Cubase....I
>>>> think a power conditioner would be a good start. If that doesnt =
fix=20
>>>> it...
>>>> Crap I dont know.. My PS in my comp is brand new and plentiful. =
Motu
> and
>>>> Presonus are new. Mics hardly have any wear on them.
>>>> B
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Graham Duncan <graham@grahamduncan.com> wrote:
>>>>>Brandon wrote:
>>>>>> Well it wasnt clipping. If I were to guess I would say
>>>>>> it sounded more like a clocking issue or power supply issue.
>>>>>> It was kind of a fuzzy, phasey distorted thing. I plugged in =
the
>>>>>> headphones
>>>>>> to the DAW and listened to the live feed. I was there. After=20
>>>>>> stripping
>>>> away
>>>>>> one thing at a time I eventually got down to the unprocessed =
lead vox
>>>> track
>>>>>> and there it was. I dont know how I didnt hear this during=20
>>>>>> tracking...
>>>> Well
>>>>>> I guess actually I do.. I wasnt listening thru headphones I was
>>>>>> listening
>>>>>> thru the monitors. I cant hear it in the monitors.Anyway I was =
able
>>to
>>>> grab
>>>>>> the phrase from later in the trak and copy it over and that =
fixed it.
>>>> This
>>>>>> is very unsettling. I wonder if it is the tube in my mic...??? =
How
> would
>>>>>> I go about finding that out?
>>>>>> thx again for everyones input.
>>>>>> b
>>>>>
>>>>>I've had this happen on vocals too (mostly on tracks I've been =
sent for
>>>>
>>>>>mixing). Most of the time it's a lip or back throat smack/croak=20
>>>>>that's
>>>>
>>>>>not that loud by itself but in the mix gets lifted out to sound =
like
>>>>>clipping. I don't think it's the mic... though some mics bring =
it out
>>>>>more. I wouldn't worry about it unless it happens a lot.
>>>>>
>>>>>Samplitude's Spectral Cleaner is a brilliant tool for fixing this =
sort
>>>>>of thing.
>>>>>
>>>>>Graham
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>=20
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial>That's reassuring... I think.....</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><BR>-- <BR>Thanks,</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
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<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>"DJ" <<A=20
href=3D"http://www.aarrrrggghhh!!!.com">www.aarrrrggghhh!!!.com</A>> =
wrote in=20
message <A =
href=3D"news:46714584$1@linux">news:46714584$1@linux</A>...</DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE=20
style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =
BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">Some=20
major suckage happens in "pro" studios........and I mean =
<BR>"major".......and=20
some of them on't give a major **** about it either. Don;t <BR>let =
this get=20
you down man. It's good that you care. Keep learning. One thing =
<BR>I've=20
learned about tracking to Cubase and my RME converters is that the =
<BR>system=20
seems to behave very differently from Paris and for whatever reason, =
<BR>I=20
have more clipping (and other strangeness) issues. for some reason, =
Paris=20
<BR>seemed to be more forgiving while tracking (or I just knew my =
calibration=20
<BR>levels a bit better relative to certain preamp gain setting that I =
used=20
<BR>regulary enough to be familiar with that didn't work the same with =
the RME=20
<BR>converters)<BR><BR>Deej<BR><BR><BR>"Brandon" <<A=20
href=3D"mailto:A@A.com">A@A.com</A>> wrote in message <A=20
=
href=3D"news:466c5825$1@linux">news:466c5825$1@linux</A>...<BR>><BR>&g=
t;=20
Neil,<BR>><BR>> ok..<BR>> There was clipping at several =
different=20
places..<BR>> That was fixed by backing off of the threshold on the =
L2<BR>> on the main bus.<BR>><BR>> After that was fixed I =
could then=20
notice the artifacts on the first couple<BR>> phrases of the =
vox...the=20
Mmmm's in the beginning and the phrase after it.<BR>> Seems to go =
away=20
after that.<BR>><BR>> I am going to sweat it because if I wasnt =
lucky=20
enough to have that same<BR>> phrase later in the song it would =
have been a=20
bust.<BR>> Well Maybe not..there were other takes, but what if =
there=20
wasn't??? :-0<BR>><BR>> I will try and duplicate the artifacts =
like you=20
said.<BR>> I am always telling my friends "Why don't you record =
with me=20
instead of <BR>> ABC<BR>> Recording Studio?. I can give you the =
same=20
quality, with better s
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ervice,<BR>> etc..." and then this sh*t =
happens and=20
it makes me not want to solicite <BR>> work<BR>> cause I am =
afraid of=20
embarassment. This doesnt happen to "pro studos" does<BR>> =
it?<BR>> Am I=20
being too critical?<BR>> thx<BR>> =
b<BR>><BR>><BR>><BR>>=20
"Neil" <<A href=3D"mailto:OIUIU@IOU.com">OIUIU@IOU.com</A>>=20
wrote:<BR>>><BR>>>I don't think it's an "over", though - =
from the=20
way he was<BR>>>describing it. At first I thought he was talking =
about=20
some<BR>>>clipping that was happening at several places, but =
this is=20
some<BR>>>kind of one-time tiny little low-level noise... is =
that=20
correct,<BR>>>Brandon?<BR>>> <BR>>>Like I said, if =
it's a=20
one-time event, there might be no way to<BR>>>diagnose what =
caused it...=20
best thing I would suggest before<BR>>>you go spend money on =
something=20
you may not need (although a<BR>>>power conditioner is never a =
bad=20
idea), try & get it to<BR>>>duplicate without guinea-pigging =
your=20
next client to find it -<BR>>>record yourself singing with the =
exact=20
same setup... just sing<BR>>>something/anything accapella for =
about 4-5=20
minutes & see if any<BR>>>of the same kind of noises show up =
on the=20
recorded track. If it<BR>>>does, switch mics & do it again, =
then=20
search for noises... if<BR>>>they still show up, switch preamps =
&=20
try it again & so on.<BR>>>IOW, process of elimination... if =
the=20
noises show up no matter<BR>>>what part of the signal chain you =
switch=20
out, then it could be<BR>>>power, or clocking, or=20
???<BR>>><BR>>>But honestly, if this was one little noise =
that=20
occurred over a<BR>>>few hours worth of level-checking, =
tracking, and=20
punching, etc,<BR>>>I wouldn't even worry about it... seriously. =
It's=20
just one of<BR>>>those weird little things that's not worth =
sweating=20
over unless<BR>>>it shows up=20
=
again.<BR>>><BR>>>Neil<BR>>> <BR>>><BR>>>"Aa=
ron=20
Allen" <<A=20
=
href=3D"mailto:know-spam@not_here.dude">know-spam@not_here.dude</A>>=20
wrote:<BR>>>>Another trick is to always track with two =
mics/pres, one=20
set a few db <BR>>>>lower<BR>>><BR >>>>than the =
next.=20
It's a simple proposition of copy/paste to fix overs=20
that<BR>>>way<BR>>>>if you use the same mic/pre on both =
=
sides.<BR>>>><BR>>>>AA <BR>>>><BR>>>><=
BR>>>>"Brandon"=20
<<A href=3D"mailto:A@A.com">A@A.com</A>> wrote in message <A=20
=
href=3D"news:466b3b16$1@linux">news:466b3b16$1@linux</A>...<BR>>>&g=
t;><BR>>>>>=20
I am always hearing these types of things so I thnik in my case I=20
<BR>>>>> should<BR>>><BR>>>>>=20
try<BR>>>>> to narrow it down.<BR>>>>> I was =
really=20
hoping this sort of thing would go away after moving=20
to<BR>><BR>>>>> Cubase....I<BR>>>>> think a =
power=20
conditioner would be a good start. If that doesnt fix =
<BR>>>>>=20
it...<BR>>>>> Crap I dont know.. My PS in my comp is brand =
new and=20
plentiful. Motu<BR>> and<BR>>>>> Presonus are new. Mics =
hardly=20
have any wear on them.<BR>>>>>=20
=
B<BR>>>>><BR>>>>> <BR>>>>><BR>>>=
>><BR>>>>><BR>>>>> <BR>>>>><BR>&=
gt;>>>=20
Graham Duncan <<A=20
=
href=3D"mailto:graham@grahamduncan.com">graham@grahamduncan.com</A>>=20
wrote:<BR>>>>>>Brandon =
wrote:<BR>>>>>>> Well=20
it wasnt clipping. If I were to guess I would =
say<BR>>>>>>>=20
it sounded more like a clocking issue or power supply=20
issue.<BR>>>>>>> It was kind of a fuzzy, phasey =
distorted=20
thing. I plugged in the<BR>>>>>>>=20
headphones<BR>>>>>>> to the DAW and listened to the =
live=20
feed. I was there. After <BR>>>>>>>=20
stripping<BR>>>>> away<BR>>>>>>> one =
thing at a=20
time I eventually got down to the unprocessed lead =
vox<BR>>>>>=20
track<BR>>>>>>> and there it was. I dont know how I =
didnt=20
hear this during <BR>>>>>>> =
tracking...<BR>>>>>=20
Well<BR>>>>>>> I guess actually I do.. I wasnt =
listening=20
thru headphones I was<BR>>>>>>>=20
listening<BR>>>>>>> thru the monitors. I cant hear =
it in the=20
monitors.Anyway I was able<BR>>>to<BR>>>>>=20
grab<BR>>>>>>> the phrase from later in the trak and =
copy it=20
over and that fixed it.<BR>>>>> =
This<BR>>>>>>>=20
is very unsettling. I wonder if it is the tube in my mic...??? =
How<BR>>=20
would<BR>>>>>>> I go about finding that=20
out?<BR>>>>>>> thx again for everyones=20
input.<BR>>>>>>>=20
b<BR>>>>>><BR>>>>>>I've had this happen =
on=20
vocals too (mostly on tracks I've been sent=20
for<BR>>>>><BR>>>>>>mixing). Most of =
the time=20
it's a lip or back throat smack/croak=20
=
<BR>>>>>>that's<BR>>>>> <BR>>>>>>=
;not=20
that loud by itself but in the mix gets lifted out to sound=20
like<BR>>>>>>clipping. I don't think it's the =
mic...=20
though some mics bring it out<BR>>>>>>more. I =
wouldn't=20
worry about it unless it happens a=20
lot.<BR>>>>>><BR>>>>>>Samplitude's =
Spectral=20
Cleaner is a brilliant tool for fixing this =
sort<BR>>>>>>of=20
=
thing.<BR>>>>>><BR>>>>>>Graham <BR>>>&=
gt;><BR>>>><BR>>>> <BR>>><BR>>=20
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This was a post from Chris when I was researching this device a few =
months back.
>>>"Chris Ludwig" <chrisl@adkproaudio.com> wrote in message=20
>>>news:45d88fac$1@linux...
>>> =20
>>>
>>>>HI Brandon,
>>>>Driver -
>>>>Not all the routing features are available in the current drivers. =
You
>can=20
>>>>at the moment only use the analog and the first bank of adat in the=20
>>>>internal routing control.
>>>>
>>>>Every unit we've gotten so far has had hardware issues.
>>>>dead or abnormally noisy inputs or outputs.
>>>>Weird zippering sounds when using the mic gain and also the =
headphone
>
>>>>channels.
>>>>Grounding noise and buzzing units.
>>>>
>>>>If they work out some of these mechanical and or drivers issues then
the
>
>>>>unit will be a great device but so far I've had to replace almost =
every
>
>>>>unit with some other device.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>In the long run I think you really better off going with the MOTU =
and
>RME=20
>>>>products.
>>>>
>>>>Chris
--=20
Thanks,
Brandon.
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial>This was a post from Chris when I was =
researching this=20
device a few months back.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV>>>>"Chris Ludwig" <<A=20
href=3D"mailto:chrisl@adkproaudio.com">chrisl@adkproaudio.com</A>> =
wrote in=20
message <BR>>>>news:45d88fac$1@linux...<BR>>>> =20
<BR>>>><BR>>>>>HI =
Brandon,<BR>>>>>Driver=20
-<BR>>>>>Not all the routing features are available in the =
current=20
drivers. You<BR>>can <BR>>>>>at the moment only use the =
analog=20
and the first bank of adat in the <BR>>>>>internal routing=20
control.<BR>>>>><BR>>>>>Every unit we've gotten =
so far=20
has had hardware issues.<BR>>>>>dead or abnormally noisy =
inputs or=20
outputs.<BR>>>>>Weird zippering sounds when using the mic =
gain and=20
also the=20
headphone<BR>><BR>>>>>channels. <BR>>>>>Groundi=
ng=20
noise and buzzing units.<BR>>>>><BR>>>>>If they =
work out=20
some of these mechanical and or drivers issues=20
then<BR>the<BR>><BR>>>>>unit will be a great device but =
so far=20
I've had to replace almost every<BR>><BR>>>>>unit with =
some other=20
device.<BR>>>>><BR>>>>> <BR>>>>>In =
the long=20
run I think you really better off going with the MOTU and<BR>>RME=20
<BR>>>>>products.<BR>>>>> <BR>>>>>Chri=
s</DIV>
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You will need the house sync line for 3 + interfaces, and run
seperate equal length WC cables to each interface. In the grand scheme
of things it doesn't matter where the interfaces plug in, as you can
re-arrange them in software.
David.
Tom Bruhl wrote:
> Thanks guys. I will give your suggestions a try. I do have equal
> length WC cables.
> I will need that MEC Deej. Let me trouble shoot a little more just to
> see if anything
> helps my situation. Maybe even today if I can finish the 1,000 things
> in front of that
> that I have to do.
>
> Thanks tons,
> Tom
>
>
> "DJ" <www.aarrrrggghhh!!!.com <http://www.aarrrrggghhh!!!.com>>
> wrote in message news:46713b25@linux...
> I had the same problem running three MECs and a 442. Losing the 442
> in favor of another MEC solved the problem........prbably because
> Paris likes to see a clock signal on all interfaces when it boots,
> at least with mine, this seemed to be the case. The 442 is not able
> to see a clock signal until after it initializes which is during
> bootup so it's not siyncing at the same time as the other devices.
> Also, with my system, each MEC was being sent a separate clock feed
> from the GenX6, not daisy chained.
>
> Try this:
>
> 1. Turn on WC (set it to 44.1 if that's what you use for
> tracking/mixing).
> 2. Turn on any other devices that are interfacing with the WC
> (including MECs-obviously you can't do this with a 442 since it gets
> it's power from the computer-which, as stated above, may be the problem)
> 3. Boot PC
> 4. Launch Windows
> 3. Go to Paris folder in your Program Files and launch Paris.exe
> from that folder
> 5. Set project to 48KHz (very important that the default project.ppj
> be set to 48KHz), sync source external, save project under the
> name "default project" (no quotes) to your Paris directory in the
> program files folder and save it again under the same name to your
> desktop.
> 6. Close Paris
> 7. Reboot computer
>
> Launch Paris from the desktop "default project.ppj". I've still got
> that MEC here if you want to give it a try. The reason I was using a
> 4 MEC system is because 3 x MECS and a 442 never did work reliably
> for me.
>
> Deej
>
>
>
>
>
> "Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net <mailto:arpegio@comcast.net>>
> wrote in message news:4670de3c$1@linux...
> I have a five card, XP, 2 x MEC, 1 x 442 and a Lucid Word clock
> generator
> that won't play nice. It was odd to begin with in that the WC
> cables
> had to run in series from the Lucid to Mec A then Mec E in a simpler
> configuration. David gave me that advise since he owns the same
> mobo
> and hardware as I.
>
> Symptoms:
> It will play back projects in parallel wc mode with all five
> cards active. Bad news is it
> won't allow any inputs except the first 16 on MEC A. All the
> others never show up in the
> meters although their associated input lights on the modules
> light up.
>
> When wc is in series I lose the EDS cards that are in between A
> and E (B, C & D) so no audio
> plays off those cards but all hardware inputs work and print !
> Huh? This is with or without
> UseHouseSync=1 in the Paris config, with/without termination and
> I tried a multitude of
> combinations of Mecs and 442s connected to different cards.
> Well, all but the 442 on Mec A
> which is unacceptable anyway. It seems to like the 442 last in
> line with card E.
>
> I'm at a loss for a solution at this time. Any suggestions?
> I'm thinking another Mec instead
> of the 442 is all I can do. I plan to have four Mecs in total
> if I can get three going successfully.
>
> I know Dimitrios was all over this months ago. He suggested
> Mecs instead of 442s.
> Anyone else?
>
> TIA,
> Tom
>
>
>
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No problem/no rush Tom. I just hope you get this sussed one way or =
another. I know from experience how frustrating this can be.
;o)
"Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote in message =
news:46715169@linux...
Thanks guys. I will give your suggestions a try. I do have equal =
length WC cables.
I will need that MEC Deej. Let me trouble shoot a little more just to =
see if anything
helps my situation. Maybe even today if I can finish the 1,000 things =
in front of that=20
that I have to do.
Thanks tons,
Tom
"DJ" <www.aarrrrggghhh!!!.com> wrote in message =
news:46713b25@linux...
I had the same problem running three MECs and a 442. Losing the 442 =
in favor of another MEC solved the problem........prbably because Paris =
likes to see a clock signal on all interfaces when it boots, at least =
with mine, this seemed to be the case. The 442 is not able to see a =
clock signal until after it initializes which is during bootup so it's =
not siyncing at the same time as the other devices. Also, with my =
system, each MEC was being sent a separate clock feed from the GenX6, =
not daisy chained.=20
Try this:
1. Turn on WC (set it to 44.1 if that's what you use for =
tracking/mixing).
2. Turn on any other devices that are interfacing with the WC =
(including MECs-obviously you can't do this with a 442 since it gets =
it's power from the computer-which, as stated above, may be the problem)
3. Boot PC
4. Launch Windows
3. Go to Paris folder in your Program Files and launch Paris.exe =
from that folder
5. Set project to 48KHz (very important that the default project.ppj =
be set to 48KHz), sync source external, save project under the name =
"default project" (no quotes) to your Paris directory in the program =
files folder and save it again under the same name to your desktop.
6. Close Paris
7. Reboot computer
Launch Paris from the desktop "default project.ppj". I've still got =
that MEC here if you want to give it a try. The reason I was using a 4 =
MEC system is because 3 x MECS and a 442 never did work reliably for me.
Deej
"Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote in message =
news:4670de3c$1@linux...
I have a five card, XP, 2 x MEC, 1 x 442 and a Lucid Word clock =
generator
that won't play nice. It was odd to begin with in that the WC =
cables
had to run in series from the Lucid to Mec A then Mec E in a =
simpler
configuration. David gave me that advise since he owns the same =
mobo=20
and hardware as I. =20
Symptoms:
It will play back projects in parallel wc mode with all five cards =
active. Bad news is it=20
won't allow any inputs except the first 16 on MEC A. All the =
others never show up in the=20
meters although their associated input lights on the modules light =
up. =20
When wc is in series I lose the EDS cards that are in between A =
and E (B, C & D) so no audio=20
plays off those cards but all hardware inputs work and print ! =
Huh? This is with or without
UseHouseSync=3D1 in the Paris config, with/without termination and =
I tried a multitude of=20
combinations of Mecs and 442s connected to different cards. Well, =
all but the 442 on Mec A=20
which is unacceptable anyway. It seems to like the 442 last in =
line with card E.
I'm at a loss for a solution at this time. Any suggestions? I'm =
thinking another Mec instead=20
of the 442 is all I can do. I plan to have four Mecs in total if =
I can get three going successfully.
I know Dimitrios was all over this months ago. He suggested Mecs =
instead of 442s.
Anyone else?
TIA,
Tom
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>No problem/no rush Tom. I just hope you =
get this=20
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can=20
be.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>;o)</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
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<DIV>"Tom Bruhl" <<A=20
href=3D"mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A>> wrote =
in message=20
<A href=3D"news:46715169@linux">news:46715169@linux</A>...</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Thanks guys. I will give your =
suggestions a=20
try. I do have equal length WC cables.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I will need that MEC Deej. Let =
me trouble=20
shoot a little more just to see if anything</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>helps my situation. Maybe even =
today if I=20
can finish the 1,000 things in front of that </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>that </FONT><FONT face=3DArial =
size=3D2>I have to=20
do.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Thanks tons,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Tom</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
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<DIV>"DJ" <<A=20
=
href=3D"http://www.aarrrrggghhh!!!.com">www.aarrrrggghhh!!!.com</A>> =
wrote=20
in message <A =
href=3D"news:46713b25@linux">news:46713b25@linux</A>...</DIV>
<DIV><EM><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I had the same problem running =
three MECs=20
and a 442. Losing the 442 in favor of another MEC solved the=20
problem........prbably because Paris likes to see a clock signal on =
all=20
interfaces when it boots, at least with mine, this seemed to be the =
case.=20
The 442 is not able to see a clock signal until after it=20
initializes which is during bootup so it's not siyncing at =
the=20
same time as the other devices. Also, with my system, each MEC =
was=20
being sent a separate clock feed from the GenX6, not daisy =
chained. </FONT></EM></DIV>
<DIV><EM><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT></EM> </DIV>
<DIV><EM><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Try this:</FONT></EM></DIV>
<DIV><EM><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT></EM> </DIV>
<DIV><EM><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>1. Turn on WC (set it to 44.1 =
if that's=20
what you use for tracking/mixing).</FONT></EM></DIV>
<DIV><EM><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>2. Turn on any other devices =
that are=20
interfacing with the WC (including MECs-obviously you can't do this =
with a=20
442 since it gets it's power from the computer-which, as stated=20
above, may be the problem)</FONT></EM></DIV>
<DIV><EM><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>3. Boot PC</FONT></EM></DIV>
<DIV><EM><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>4. Launch =
Windows</FONT></EM></DIV>
<DIV><EM><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>3. Go to Paris folder in your =
Program Files=20
and launch Paris.exe from that folder</FONT></EM></DIV>
<DIV><EM><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>5. Set project to 48KHz=20
(<STRONG><U>very</U></STRONG> important that the default project.ppj =
be set=20
to 48KHz), sync source external, save project under the =
name "default=20
project" (no quotes) to your Paris directory in the program files =
folder and=20
save it again under the same name to your desktop.</FONT></EM></DIV>
<DIV><EM><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>6. Close =
Paris</FONT></EM></DIV>
<DIV><EM><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>7. Reboot =
computer</FONT></EM></DIV>
<DIV><EM><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT></EM> </DIV>
<DIV><EM><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Launch Paris from the desktop =
"default=20
project.ppj". I've still got that MEC here if you want to give it a =
try. The=20
reason I was using a 4 MEC system is because 3 x MECS and a 442 =
never did=20
work reliably for me.</FONT></EM></DIV>
<DIV><EM><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT></EM> </DIV>
<DIV><EM><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Deej</FONT></EM></DIV>
<DIV><EM><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT></EM> </DIV>
<DIV><EM><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT></EM> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><EM><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT></EM> </DIV>
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<DIV>"Tom Bruhl" <<A=20
href=3D"mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A>> =
wrote in=20
message <A =
href=3D"news:4670de3c$1@linux">news:4670de3c$1@linux</A>...</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" color=3D#800000 size=3D2>I have =
a five=20
card, XP, 2 x MEC, 1 x 442 and a Lucid Word clock =
generator</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" color=3D#800000 size=3D2>that =
won't play=20
nice. It was odd to begin with in that the WC =
cables</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" color=3D#800000>had to run in =
series from=20
the Lucid to Mec A then Mec E in a simpler</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" =
color=3D#800000>configuration. David=20
gave me that advise since he owns the same mobo </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" color=3D#800000>and hardware as =
I. =20
</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" color=3D#800000 =
size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" color=3D#800000=20
size=3D2>Symptoms:</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" color=3D#800000 size=3D2>It will =
play back=20
projects in parallel wc mode with all five cards =
active. =20
</FONT><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" color=3D#800000 size=3D2>Bad =
news is it=20
</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" color=3D#800000 size=3D2>won't =
allow=20
</FONT><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" color=3D#800000 size=3D2>any =
inputs except=20
the first </FONT><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" color=3D#800000 =
size=3D2>16 on MEC=20
A. All the others never show up in the </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" color=3D#800000 size=3D2>meters =
</FONT><FONT=20
face=3D"Comic Sans MS" color=3D#800000 size=3D2>although their =
associated input=20
lights on the modules </FONT><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" =
color=3D#800000=20
size=3D2>light up. </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" color=3D#800000 =
size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" color=3D#800000 =
size=3D2>When wc is in=20
series I lose the EDS cards that </FONT><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans =
MS"=20
color=3D#800000 size=3D2>are in between A and E (B, C & D) so =
no audio=20
</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" color=3D#800000=20
size=3D2>plays </FONT><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" =
color=3D#800000=20
size=3D2>off those cards </FONT><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" =
color=3D#800000=20
size=3D2>but all hardware inputs work and print ! =
Huh? This=20
is with or without</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" color=3D#800000 =
size=3D2>UseHouseSync=3D1 in the=20
Paris config, with/without termination </FONT><FONT face=3D"Comic =
Sans MS"=20
color=3D#800000 size=3D2>and I tried a multitude of </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" color=3D#800000 =
size=3D2>combinations of Mecs=20
and 442s </FONT><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" color=3D#800000 =
size=3D2>connected=20
to different cards. Well, all but the 442 on Mec A =
</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" color=3D#800000 size=3D2>which =
</FONT><FONT=20
face=3D"Comic Sans MS" color=3D#800000 size=3D2>is unacceptable =
anyway. It=20
seems to like the 442 last in line with card E.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" color=3D#800000 =
size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" color=3D#800000 size=3D2>I'm at =
a loss for a=20
solution at this time. Any suggestions? I'm thinking =
another=20
Mec instead </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" color=3D#800000 size=3D2>of the =
442 is all I=20
can do. I plan to have four Mecs in total if I can =
get three=20
going successfully.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" =
color=3D#800000></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" color=3D#800000>I know Dimitrios =
was all=20
over this months ago. He suggested Mecs instead of=20
442s.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" color=3D#800000>Anyone =
else?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" =
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<DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" =
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<DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" color=3D#800000>Tom</FONT></DIV>
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"John Macy" <spamlessjohn@johnmacy.com> wrote:
>
>So I was sending an email on my AMD Gateway and something crashed--seems
like
>a combo of things including AOL IM and some Norton the...the Media/IT at
>my church studio guy removed AOL but could not get Norton off. Windows
seems
>a bit scrambled--desktop shows up but a lot of things are not running.
I
>was going to copy off all my needed files and then start over, buuut, it
>lets me hit Copy, but will not let me paste it anywhere--it seems to find
>the firewire drive, but Paste is greyed out--won't even let me paste it
on
>the desktop...and ideas short of the .357????To my ears, the on-board fxs are very good. The verbs sound just as good as
I've heard on the Yammy DM2000. I must say that I prefer the Comps on the
Tascam. But, I had a chance to hear the DM2k's new vintage comps, and they
are in the UAD league..But, I could get a very good mix just using the on-board
FXs a comps, and eqs...
"Jon Jiles" <snoid@sheboygan.com> wrote:
>
>Well I picked it partly because of what you shared with me about your experience
>with it!
>
>I forgot to mention that Tascam's support can be good, bad or just downright
>lame depending on what day it is and how lucky you are but the folks at
the
>user forum are helpful and most of them are using it with Cubase or other
>DAWS.
>
>In general though Tascam seems to have gotten it right. The learning curve
>(for me anyway) has indeed been (and continues to be) steep but the overall
>flexibilty once you get there makes it a really good value... I think anyway!
>I also haven't even played with any of the effects yet.
>
>Cheers,
>Jon
>
>"LaMont" <jjdpro@ameritech.net> wrote:
>>
>>Hey Jon..!!!
>>That's good news. .I've been on the fence contemplating on getting into
>a
>>Digtal mixer with Nuendo and Pro Tools..mainly the DM 2000, but as James
>>and many others have stated, (2) DM4800 comes out to under 10k...
>>
>>I had a chance to demo one last year Dm3200 and like the DM24, I was very
>>impressed with it's sound quality and all around functionality..
>>Impressed!!
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>"Jon Jiles" <nojij@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>Hey peeps,
>>>
>>>You, know, I'm really liking the DM3200 with Cubase 4
>>>though James was absolutely right about the learning curve
>>>when he advised me to give it 30 days with the
>>>manual.
>>>
>>>My only prob is that, with my day job, that month almost
>>>literally becomes a month of Sundays!!!!!
>>>
>>>Anyway I have to say that Tascam has done a really
>>>good job with the new MKII firewire card. It makes the boardd work really
>>>well as a controller and actually sounds better than I had expected. The
>>>guys at the DM3200/4800 forum are
>>>helpul, good guys too. There's some useful info there. Can't comment on
>>the
>>>mic pre's yet cause I haven't done any "live" tracking yet.
>>>
>>>In a nutshell, while I lament the fact that no one picked
>>>up the Paris banner and kept it a current, valid tool,
>>>I've seen enough to decide I'm committed to this new set-up for a while.
>>>Ton's of potential here especially if I am able to take the time to learn
>>>everything on the board as well as
>>>deepening my Cubase chops.
>>>
>>>
>>>I'm keeping a minimal PARIS rig to experiment with as
>>>a stereo summing buss. I haven't heard the new rig
>>>that way yet though so I'll let you know when I get
>>>there. (On that note I'm probably going to need to get
>>>a word clock. Is the little Hosa WDC427 worth
>>>bothering with? Don't have much left to spend)
>>>
>>>I still have a KSP8 and BFD to learn and I think
>>>the whole purpose of all this stuff is to actually
>>>track and finish some tunes so I'm trying to curtail the usual time doing
>>>the gear-head, noodle yanking, gear lust thing I'm
>>>prone to and actually get a project done with what I have.
>>>
>>>Anyway, just wanted to give you guys an update and BTW a fair portion
of
>>>my Paris rig is for sale (See my FS post).
>>>
>>>Arriva Dishrag,
>>>Jon
>>>
>>>
>>
>Not yet. Nobody's talkin.
"Jamie K" <Meta@Dimensional.com> wrote in message news:467048af$1@linux...
>
> Hey Deej,
>
> Did you find out anything interesting?
>
> Cheers,
> -Jamie
> www.JamieKrutz.com
>
>
> DJ wrote:
>> thanks...will do.
>>
>> "Jamie K" <Meta@Dimensional.com> wrote in message news:4666f028@linux...
>>> Let us know what you find out. Here's a start:
>>>
>>> "The battery we use is the NiMH, same as used in cameras and small
>>> cylinder AA, AAA, etc. Toyota-Panasonic formed a partnership "PEVE" to
>>> license and improve NiMH for EVs. Around this time, GM purchased the
>>> worldwide patent rights to the NiMH battery. Later, GM decided to sell
>>> those rights to Texaco, which then merged with Chevron. Chevron then put
>>> the battery rights under control of a Joint Venture, "COBASYS," and
>>> decided to fund a lawsuit against large-format (electric car battery)
>>> competitors such as Toyota-Panasonic.
>>>
>>> Chevron's lawsuit led to a settlement agreement with PEVE (and Sanyo,
>>> etc.) whereby Toyota paid $30M to Chevron, Toyota was granted the rights
>>> to use "small-format" batteries on the Prius, and Toyota agreed not to
>>> build "large-format" versions of its batteries (needed for plug-in cars)
>>> for export to the U.S. until 2014. At least, that's what it seems to be;
>>> portions of the settlement agreement are still secret.
>>>
>>> Hence, Chevron and GM together led to the end of Toyota's RAV4-EV
>>> program, it seems; at the current time, only Chevron is allowed to
>>> market "large-format" NiMH batteries in the USA, and Chevron has decided
>>> not to do so. In fact, Chevron won't sell its NiMH batteries to anyone
>>> except large fleets, it says. When I say Chevron, I am referring to
>>> their Joint Venture, "COBASYS," which is their unit controlling the
>>> batteries."
>>>
>>> From:
>>> http://www.ocweekly.com/index.php?option=com_content2&ta sk=view&id=25134&Itemid=47
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> -Jamie
>>> www.JamieKrutz.com
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> DJ wrote:
>>>>> Since then, Chevron has gotten a hold of the battery patent and there
>>>>> is
>>>>> some talk that they may be making it difficult for car companies to
>>>>> use those proven batteries for future EVs.
>>>>>
>>>> Are you serious??? I'm doing some contract work for Chevron right now.
>>>> I have worked for them before and I know a bit about how inefficient
>>>> and just plain ol' scooterfucked some of the thinking is there. It's
>>>> been an uphill battle dealing with them here due to a number of things
>>>> they have requested that I do that I have flat out refused to do. I'm
>>>> going to look into this. I may just opt out of my dealings with them
>>>> completely. Wouldn't be the end of the world.
>>>>
>>>>
>>Although not ever having used any of the Presonus stuff before,
I would kind of tend to agree with Crhis' last statement - at
least from a standpoint of HAVING used RME & MOTU stuff.
I've always been happy with the sound & performance of my RME
Multifaces, and I recently picked up a MOTU 8-Pre, and although
I'm not using it as an interface, so I cna't speak for the
drivers (I just using it as a stand-alone preamp for tom mics
so far, lightpiping the signals out to one of the Multifaces),
I can say that for $549, it's a bargain for a bank of eight of
what so far seem to be pretty darn decent, good clean preamps.
Neil
"Brandon" <a@a.com> wrote:
>
>
>This was a post from Chris when I was researching this device a few =
>months back.
>
>>>>"Chris Ludwig" <chrisl@adkproaudio.com> wrote in message=20
>>>>news:45d88fac$1@linux...
>>>> =20
>>>>
>>>>>HI Brandon,
>>>>>Driver -
>>>>>Not all the routing features are available in the current drivers. =
>You
>>can=20
>>>>>at the moment only use the analog and the first bank of adat in the=20
>>>>>internal routing control.
>>>>>
>>>>>Every unit we've gotten so far has had hardware issues.
>>>>>dead or abnormally noisy inputs or outputs.
>>>>>Weird zippering sounds when using the mic gain and also the =
>headphone
>>
>>>>>channels.
>>>>>Grounding noise and buzzing units.
>>>>>
>>>>>If they work out some of these mechanical and or drivers issues then
>the
>>
>>>>>unit will be a great device but so far I've had to replace almost =
>every
>>
>>>>>unit with some other device.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>In the long run I think you really better off going with the MOTU =
>and
>>RME=20
>>>>>products.
>>>>>
>>>>>Chris
>
>--=20
>Thanks,
>
>Brandon.
>
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>researching this=20
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><DIV>>>>"Chris Ludwig" <<A=20
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>wrote in=20
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>Brandon,<BR>>>>>Driver=20
>-<BR>>>>>Not all the routing features are available in the =
>current=20
>drivers. You<BR>>can <BR>>>>>at the moment only use the =
>analog=20
>and the first bank of adat in the <BR>>>>>internal routing=20
>control.<BR>>>>><BR>>>>>Every unit we've gotten =
>so far=20
>has had hardware issues.<BR>>>>>dead or abnormally noisy =
>inputs or=20
>outputs.<BR>>>>>Weird zippering sounds when using the mic =
>gain and=20
>also the=20
>headphone<BR>><BR>>>>>channels.<BR>>>>>Groundi=
>ng=20
>noise and buzzing units.<BR>>>>><BR>>>>>If they =
>work out=20
>some of these mechanical and or drivers issues=20
>then<BR>the<BR>><BR>>>>>unit will be a great device but =
>so far=20
>I've had to replace almost every<BR>><BR>>>>>unit with =
>some other=20
>device.<BR>>>>><BR>>>>><BR>>>>>In =
>the long=20
>run I think you really better off going with the MOTU and<BR>>RME=20
><BR>>>>>products.<BR>>>>><BR>>>>>Chri=
>s</DIV>
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Yeah my 8 pre is the basis of my system.
I havn't had any real issues with it.
I use the Presonus as a preamp 8 channel extension lightpiped and slaved
to the 8pre. I rarely use the 8pre ins since they are located on the =
back and=20
less easy to get to.
Presonus is better designed for lazy people like me.
--=20
Thanks,
Brandon=20
"Neil" <IUOIU@OIU.com> wrote in message news:46716569$1@linux...
Although not ever having used any of the Presonus stuff before,
I would kind of tend to agree with Crhis' last statement - at
least from a standpoint of HAVING used RME & MOTU stuff.
I've always been happy with the sound & performance of my RME
Multifaces, and I recently picked up a MOTU 8-Pre, and although
I'm not using it as an interface, so I cna't speak for the
drivers (I just using it as a stand-alone preamp for tom mics
so far, lightpiping the signals out to one of the Multifaces),
I can say that for $549, it's a bargain for a bank of eight of
what so far seem to be pretty darn decent, good clean preamps.
Neil
"Brandon" <a@a.com> wrote:
>
>
>This was a post from Chris when I was researching this device a few =
=3D
>months back.
>
>>>>"Chris Ludwig" <chrisl@adkproaudio.com> wrote in message=3D20
>>>>news:45d88fac$1@linux...
>>>> =3D20
>>>>
>>>>>HI Brandon,
>>>>>Driver -
>>>>>Not all the routing features are available in the current =
drivers. =3D
>You
>>can=3D20
>>>>>at the moment only use the analog and the first bank of adat in =
the=3D20
>>>>>internal routing control.
>>>>>
>>>>>Every unit we've gotten so far has had hardware issues.
>>>>>dead or abnormally noisy inputs or outputs.
>>>>>Weird zippering sounds when using the mic gain and also the =3D
>headphone
>>
>>>>>channels.
>>>>>Grounding noise and buzzing units.
>>>>>
>>>>>If they work out some of these mechanical and or drivers issues =
then
>the
>>
>>>>>unit will be a great device but so far I've had to replace almost =
=3D
>every
>>
>>>>>unit with some other device.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>In the long run I think you really better off going with the MOTU =
=3D
>and
>>RME=3D20
>>>>>products.
>>>>>
>>>>>Chris
>
>--=3D20
>Thanks,
>
>Brandon.
>
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>Brandon,<BR>>>>>Driver=3D20
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>so far=3D20
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>inputs or=3D20
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>noise and buzzing units.<BR>>>>><BR>>>>>If they =3D
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mics<BR>so far, lightpiping the signals out to one of the =
Multifaces),<BR>I=20
can say that for $549, it's a bargain for a bank of eight of<BR>what =
so far=20
seem to be pretty darn decent, good clean=20
preamps.<BR><BR>Neil<BR><BR><BR>"Brandon" <<A=20
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=3D<BR>>months=20
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=
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=3D20<BR>>>>><BR>>>>>>HI=20
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the=3D20<BR>>>>>>internal routing=20
control.<BR>>>>>><BR>>>>>>Every unit =
we've=20
gotten so far has had hardware issues.<BR>>>>>>dead or=20
abnormally noisy inputs or outputs.<BR>>>>>>Weird =
zippering=20
sounds when using the mic gain and also the=20
=
=3D<BR>>headphone<BR>>><BR>>>>>>channels. <BR>>=
>>>>Grounding=20
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then<BR>>the<BR>>><BR>>>>>>unit will be a =
great device=20
but so far I've had to replace almost=20
=3D<BR>>every<BR>>><BR>>>>>>unit with some =
other=20
=
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=
=3D<BR>>and<BR>>>RME=3D20<BR>>>>>>products. <BR>&g=
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Try a Stratelester.
THEY ROCK!!
--=20
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Brandon
"John" <no@no.com> wrote in message news:46717541$1@linux...
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David,
I guess this a really dumb question but can I do what you said and =
rename
the Master as card D? I've never ever tried that. . . If so, I can =
retain the
24bit outs for monitoring. That would solve alot if not all of the =
problems.
Thanks,
Tom
PS 2 lines from last entry in Paris.cfg UseHouseSync=3D1 =20
RIGHT?
I use WordPad to add and save.
"EK Sound" <askme@nospam.com> wrote in message =
news:467156c5$1@linux...
Try putting the 442 on the A card and the MEC's on the last two cards. =
You will need the house sync line for 3 + interfaces, and run=20
seperate equal length WC cables to each interface. In the grand scheme =
of things it doesn't matter where the interfaces plug in, as you can=20
re-arrange them in software.
David.
Tom Bruhl wrote:
> Thanks guys. I will give your suggestions a try. I do have equal=20
> length WC cables.
> I will need that MEC Deej. Let me trouble shoot a little more just =
to=20
> see if anything
> helps my situation. Maybe even today if I can finish the 1,000 =
things=20
> in front of that
> that I have to do.
> =20
> Thanks tons,
> Tom
> =20
>=20
> "DJ" <www.aarrrrggghhh!!!.com <http://www.aarrrrggghhh!!!.com>>
> wrote in message news:46713b25@linux...
> I had the same problem running three MECs and a 442. Losing the =
442
> in favor of another MEC solved the problem........prbably =
because
> Paris likes to see a clock signal on all interfaces when it =
boots,
> at least with mine, this seemed to be the case. The 442 is not =
able
> to see a clock signal until after it initializes which is during
> bootup so it's not siyncing at the same time as the other =
devices.
> Also, with my system, each MEC was being sent a separate clock =
feed
> from the GenX6, not daisy chained.
> =20
> Try this:
> =20
> 1. Turn on WC (set it to 44.1 if that's what you use for
> tracking/mixing).
> 2. Turn on any other devices that are interfacing with the WC
> (including MECs-obviously you can't do this with a 442 since it =
gets
> it's power from the computer-which, as stated above, may be the =
problem)
> 3. Boot PC
> 4. Launch Windows
> 3. Go to Paris folder in your Program Files and launch Paris.exe
> from that folder
> 5. Set project to 48KHz (very important that the default =
project.ppj
> be set to 48KHz), sync source external, save project under the
> name "default project" (no quotes) to your Paris directory in =
the
> program files folder and save it again under the same name to =
your
> desktop.
> 6. Close Paris
> 7. Reboot computer
> =20
> Launch Paris from the desktop "default project.ppj". I've still =
got
> that MEC here if you want to give it a try. The reason I was =
using a
> 4 MEC system is because 3 x MECS and a 442 never did work =
reliably
> for me.
> =20
> Deej
> =20
> =20
> =20
> =20
>=20
> "Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net =
<mailto:arpegio@comcast.net>>
> wrote in message news:4670de3c$1@linux...
> I have a five card, XP, 2 x MEC, 1 x 442 and a Lucid Word =
clock
> generator
> that won't play nice. It was odd to begin with in that the =
WC
> cables
> had to run in series from the Lucid to Mec A then Mec E in a =
simpler
> configuration. David gave me that advise since he owns the =
same
> mobo
> and hardware as I.=20
> =20
> Symptoms:
> It will play back projects in parallel wc mode with all five
> cards active. Bad news is it
> won't allow any inputs except the first 16 on MEC A. All =
the
> others never show up in the
> meters although their associated input lights on the modules
> light up.=20
> =20
> When wc is in series I lose the EDS cards that are in =
between A
> and E (B, C & D) so no audio
> plays off those cards but all hardware inputs work and print =
!=20
> Huh? This is with or without
> UseHouseSync=3D1 in the Paris config, with/without =
termination and
> I tried a multitude of
> combinations of Mecs and 442s connected to different cards.=20
> Well, all but the 442 on Mec A
> which is unacceptable anyway. It seems to like the 442 last =
in
> line with card E.
> =20
> I'm at a loss for a solution at this time. Any suggestions? =
> I'm thinking another Mec instead
> of the 442 is all I can do. I plan to have four Mecs in =
total
> if I can get three going successfully.
> =20
> I know Dimitrios was all over this months ago. He =
suggested
> Mecs instead of 442s.
> Anyone else?
> =20
> TIA,
> Tom
> =20
> =20
>=20
>=20
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>David,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I guess this a really dumb question but =
can I do=20
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ever tried=20
that. . . If so, I can retain the</FONT></DIV>
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would solve=20
alot if not all of the problems.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Thanks,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Tom</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
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size=3D2> PS &nbs p; 2 lines=20
from last entry in Paris.cfg UseHouseSync=3D1 =20
</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial=20
size=3D2> &nbs=
p; &nbs p;=20
RIGHT?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I use WordPad to add and =
save.</FONT></DIV>
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href=3D"mailto:askme@nospam.com">askme@nospam.com</A>>=20
wrote in message <A=20
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putting the=20
442 on the A card and the MEC's on the last two cards. =
<BR> You=20
will need the house sync line for 3 + interfaces, and run <BR>seperate =
equal=20
length WC cables to each interface. In the grand scheme <BR>of things =
it=20
doesn't matter where the interfaces plug in, as you can <BR>re-arrange =
them in=20
software.<BR><BR>David.<BR><BR>Tom Bruhl wrote:<BR>> Thanks =
guys. I=20
will give your suggestions a try. I do have equal <BR>> =
length WC=20
cables.<BR>> I will need that MEC Deej. Let me trouble shoot =
a little=20
more just to <BR>> see if anything<BR>> helps my =
situation. Maybe=20
even today if I can finish the 1,000 things <BR>> in front of =
that<BR>>=20
that I have to do.<BR>> <BR>> Thanks tons,<BR>>=20
Tom<BR>> <BR>> <BR>> "DJ" =
<<A=20
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I had the same problem running three MECs and a 442. Losing the=20
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tracking/mixing).<BR>> 2. Turn on any other =
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computer<BR> > =2 0
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"default=20
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<BR> > &a mp;nbsp; I'm thinking =
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the 442=20
is all I can do. I plan to have four Mecs in=20
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------=_NextPart_000_00CA_01C7AE85.3DF0C0A0--My primary guitar is a tele style with a mini humbucker in front, a strat
pup in the middle, and a tele in the bridge...a dedicated volume knob controls
the mid pup - think Brent Mason's guitar, but with Duncan Nashvilles in middle
and rear, and a Firebird (not Les Paul) pup in front...
Goes from hillbilly heaven to smooth and clean jazz with the flick of a switch...The
same configuration is available from Valley Arts Guitars (Brent Mason Signature
model) or take an off the shelf Nashville Tele, put in the middle pup volume
knob and drop any number of single coil sized humbuckers in front, and there
ya go.
"John" <no@no.com> wrote:
>
>Any suggestions on a single electric guitar that can do Strat / Les Paul
/
>Telecaster sounds or some other guitar that has an amazing array of these
>type sounds?I think it's fair to say that the Line 6 Variax (500, 300 and 700) have
the most amazing breadth of guitar sounds in one instrument. Including
presets for those you desire. You can even customize the emulations via
their Workbench software.
PRS and Parker are have pickup combinations that cover a lot of
territory. Works for me for strat and LP. Some Ibanez models also do
very well, and there are others with humbucking/split coil options that
would work fine, too.
Cheers,
-Jamie
www.JamieKrutz.com
John wrote:
> Any suggestions on a single electric guitar that can do Strat / Les Paul /
> Telecaster sounds or some other guitar that has an amazing array of these
> type sounds?Are you concerned about neck length/style? If not, I'd get a LesPaul and put
separate coil tappable humbuckers in it. I have a GoldTop with this set up
and it's got a VERY wide range of sounds. If you don't mind emulations,
Variax would be another option.
AA
"John" <no@no.com> wrote in message news:46717541$1@linux...
>
> Any suggestions on a single electric guitar that can do Strat / Les Paul /
> Telecaster sounds or some other guitar that has an amazing array of these
> type sounds?I tried for years and eventually wound up just buying one of everything. It's
really fun when recording, do I use the reissue strat, the LP with soapbars,
or the ES-335?
TCB
"John" <no@no.com> wrote:
>
>Any suggestions on a single electric guitar that can do Strat / Les Paul
/
>Telecaster sounds or some other guitar that has an amazing array of these
>type sounds?Check 'em out
;o)the maxtor is the audio HD-- if I remove the (mac)startup HD,
then what?
(mac G3 beige)
thanks AA
"Aaron Allen" <know-spam@not_here.dude> wrote:
>put it on master BUT make sure to remove any IDE devices on that same cable.
>
>:)
>
>AA
>
>"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>news:466efdee$1@linux...
>>
>> Try putting the jumper on Master and see if it shows up. If that doesn't
>> work, you could also try moving the jumper around.
>>
>> "jp" <jpj@jpjones.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>James--
>>>yeah, the thing seems to whine a bit at times,
>>>but it was always quieter than the HD that came with the mac--
>>>i took off the jumper (j50), which was supposed to allow the Maxotr
>>>to turn into a slave, and then the Maxtor didn't show up
>>>at all!! not even in the system profiler.
>>>
>>>i regret that i don't understand this stuff more.
>>>but thanks to you--
>>>jp
>>>
>>>"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>I think a FireWire case would be a better bet. Those old G3s only had
>> the
>>>>slower USB v1.
>>>>
>>>>Back to the question, does the drive make any noise?
>>>>
>>>>James
>>>>
>>>>"Aaron Allen" <know-spam@not_here.dude> wrote:
>>>>>Hey JP.. I have another idea. Buy a cheap USB case and stick the drive
>>>in
>>>>
>>>>>it. Boot another computer and plug it in. See if you get the same
>>>>>results.
>>>>
>>>>>This eliminates completely it being your mac IDE bus. Also, I don't
>>>>>know,
>>>>
>>>>>but is it possible to boot that machine from USB? Might be something
>>>>>else
>>>>to
>>>>>try and having a USB removable IDE-> USB is really not a bad thing.
>>>>>
>>>>>AA
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>"jp" <jpj@jpjones.net> wrote in message news:466aed12$1@linux...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> the technical answer to this is a little beyond me--
>>>>>> i seem to remember an enginner, while describing
>>>>>> thie bake (no shake) technique, saying that it had to do
>>>>>> with removing any accumulated humidity and getting
>>>>>> those little particles to stand up straight.
>>>>>> a "real" engineer could give you the straight dope on
>>>>>> this. i am sure that you can only bake your tape once,
>>>>>> and you'd better have a way to store the data immediately-- curiously
>>>>
>>>>>> again,
>>>>>> just like freeze drying a hard disc.
>>>>>> jp
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "erlilo" <erlingl@tdcadsl.dk> wrote:
>>>>>>>To bake a cake, sorry, a tape;-), wasn't it to get rid of the copy
>>>>>>>effect
>>>>>> we
>>>>>>>often heard before the tune started?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Erling
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>"Martin Harrington" <lendan@bigpond.net.au> skrev i en meddelelse
>>>>>>>news:46690c43@linux...
>>>>>>>> What is funny, is that you "freeze"drives to get the data from it,
>>>but
>>>>>> you
>>>>>>>> '"bake" audio tapes to get the data from them.....
>>>>>>>> Who woulda thought??
>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>> Martin Harrington
>>>>>>>> www.lendanear-sound.com
>>>>>>>> 0414 913 247
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> "jp" <jpj@jpjones.net> wrote in message news:466780ea@linux...
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> oh, and no--
>>>>>>>>> the maxor doesn't show up under "start up disks"--
>>>>>>>>> it's curious that no driver is listed in the system profiler for
>>>the
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> maxtor,
>>>>>>>>> though it's worked for a number of years and only recently started
>>>>to
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> flake
>>>>>>>>> out--
>>>>>>>>> i'm thinking of going with the freezer suggestions next, though
>>>>>>>>> have
>>>>>> no
>>>>>>>>> idea
>>>>>>>>> what this means, how cold to get it,when to take it out,
>>>>>>>>> or what the condensation factor will have....
>>>>>>>>> or, for that matter, how to cook it later and whether a marinade
>> is
>>>>>>>>> appropriate
>>>>>>>>> or a simple
>>>>>>>>> searing in a hot pan with a little olive oil...
>>>>>>>>> the whole thing is getting pretty funny in a sorta frustrating
way
>>>>>>>>> thanks again again
>>>>>>>>> jp
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> "jp" <jpj@jpjones.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>James, one more time--
>>>>>>>>>>okay
>>>>>>>>>>system profiler finds:
>>>>>>>>>>"internal ATA 1 ID=O Hard Drive no volumes mounted"
>>>>>>>>>>this is the maxtor, but don't know where to go from here.
>>>>>>>>>>also, profiler says the unformatted size is 27.54 gig, though the
>>>
>>>>>>>>>>maxtor
>>>>>>>>>>is 40???
>>>>>>>>>>jp
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>Was the Maxtor a boot able drive? If so, see if you can go under
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>"Start
>>>>>>>>>>up
>>>>>>>>>>>disk" and see if it's in there? Is the drive making any noise
>> like
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>spin
>>>>>>>>>>>up and spin down. The head arm might be stuck. You might want
>> to
>>>>try
>>>>>>>>> tapping
>>>>>>>>>>>on the side of the drive lightly. Beware you could damage the
>>>>>>>>>>>drive
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>doing
>>>>>>>>>>>this how ever, what do you have to lose. I'd have a drive ready
>>>>to
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>transfer
>>>>>>>>>>>files to.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>The drive might be shot. Here are a few suggestions:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>Call Apple, they have ways of retrieving data. I had a HD head
>> crash
>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>>the drive died. They told me they could transfer my data to the
>> new
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>drive
>>>>>>>>>>>they were replacing on my ibook.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>Disk Savers, this would cost some money though.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>Last you could send the drive to me and I will see if I can get
>> your
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>data
>>>>>>>>>>>back, when I have spare time to work on it.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>What ever you decide to do, good luck!
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>I'll catch you tomorrow.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>"jp" <jpj@jpjones.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>Hey again James--
>>>>>>>>>>>>yeah, i did all that and
>>>>>>>>>>>>ran Disk Warrior, all the stuff--
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>i figure i'm totally fubarred at this point--
>>>>>>>>>>>>got to get real, buy a new system, forget my old audio files
>>>>>>>>>>>>and start over.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>but thank YOU particularly for the help
>>>>>>>>>>>>jp
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>Did you try disk first aid? If not, try to run Disk First Aid
>>>from
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>the
>>>>>>>>>>>>OS
>>>>>>>>>>>>>9 installer CD.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>"jp" <jpj@jpjones.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>oh, great--
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>now a lot more considerations
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>:-)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>i'm at my wits end(not a far walk)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>and can't figure out how to proceed
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>my G3 doesn't respond to the maxtor,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>my lacie cd writer only gets it right 20% of the time,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>my audio files are unavailable thanks to the maxor
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>and my latest CD release is totally fubar
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>help!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>(thanks-- sincerely-- James McCloskey)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>jp
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>"DC" <dc@spammersinhell.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>One more thing. Be aware that the firewire buss on blue and
>>>white
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>G3's did not like more than one thing plugged into it...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Dumb huh?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>I don't know when they fixed that, and it may apply to G4's
>> as
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>well.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>A FW hub solves it.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Oh, also, B&W G3's will not run a current mac KB and Mouse!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>They only run the original leetle KB and the silly round mouse
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>that came with them.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Use a USB hub and the current KB's and mice work fine.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>DC
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>
>I own a lot of guitars (my fiance says I'm not allowed to buy anymore as they're
literally taking up half of my town house). If I had to pick only one it
would be my Floyd Rose-equipped '73 Fender Strat with the EMG DG-20 David
Gilmore pickup set.
In place of the normal Strat tone controls, the DG-20 has a bass/treble booster
and a midrange booster.
Super-jangly Strat sounds (bass/treble booster up) or thick LP-type tones
(bass/treble booster down & midrange boost up) + everything in-between!
I love it!
Mark
"John" <no@no.com> wrote:
>
>Any suggestions on a single electric guitar that can do Strat / Les Paul
/
>Telecaster sounds or some other guitar that has an amazing array of these
>type sounds?You can't go worng with a Paul Reed Smith..I have a Carvin custom( my Studio
axe)
http://www.carvin.com/products/guitar.php?ItemNumber=DC400
This axe IMHO ,covers all the bases from Jazz,Funk, Rock, Metal, Country...My
guiatr tech always compliments my Carvin..
"John" <no@no.com> wrote:
>
>Any suggestions on a single electric guitar that can do Strat / Les Paul
/
>Telecaster sounds or some other guitar that has an amazing array of these
>type sounds?I'm really surprised by the responses here. I expected your PARIS types to
be more of a purist lot. I just don't think it's possible to get a swamp
ash guitar with the pickups mounted on a piece of plastic and a bolt on neck
to sound like a mahogany/maple guitar with a different scale length, a set
neck, and the pickups mounted on the wood.
TCB
"John" <no@no.com> wrote:
>
>Any suggestions on a single electric guitar that can do Strat / Les Paul
/
>Telecaster sounds or some other guitar that has an amazing array of these
>type sounds?Of course it's better to be secure to start with, but at least they patched
quickly.
http://www.macworld.com/news/2007/06/14/safari/index.php
Good show for them.
TCBHey Paul-
I'm actually in Scotts Valley, CA. So a personal demo isn't possible, but
I would highly recommend lurking at the DM-3200/4800 forum a bit:
http://tascamforums.com/index.php?showforum=45
There's also a DVD avilable there from a guy named Mike Farrow that gives
a pretty decent tour of the board. Not as entertaining as Aaron and BT's
Paris DVD:) ... but useful for getting a lay of the land with the DM-3200
(albeit with a HD recorder as ooposed to a DAW.) I bought it before I bought
the board.
There's also a lot to be learned from all of documentation posted there (and
at the main Tascam site). I read all the stuff that applied to my scenario
and downloaded the manual before I made the plunge. I think I saw a couple
of posts regarding how it's being integrated with Sonar BTW.
Best of luck and please be sure to share your experiences if you do take
the leap.
Cheers,
Jon
Paul Artola <artola@comcast.net> wrote:
>Jon -
>
>I am very interested in your experiences with the Tascam board. I am
>hoping to pick up a DM4800 as soon as I sell off enough gear to pay
>for it.
>
>In my case, I am thinking that I will refocus my studio from a
>Paris-centric setup to one using the DM4800 and, maybe, Sonar. This
>will be my tracking and mixing station, but I will still keep Paris
>for the final mixes.
>
>If you are anywhere in the Maryland/Pa/DC/Va region, I would love a
>demo of the 3200.
>
>- Paul Artola
> Ellicott City, Maryland
>
>On 14 Jun 2007 09:18:58 +1000, "Jon Jiles" <nojij@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>>
>>Hey peeps,
>>
>>You, know, I'm really liking the DM3200 with Cubase 4
>>though James was absolutely right about the learning curve
>>when he advised me to give it 30 days with the
>>manual.
>>
>>My only prob is that, with my day job, that month almost
>>literally becomes a month of Sundays!!!!!
>>
>>Anyway I have to say that Tascam has done a really
>>good job with the new MKII firewire card. It makes the boardd work really
>>well as a controller and actually sounds better than I had expected. The
>>guys at the DM3200/4800 forum are
>>helpul, good guys too. There's some useful info there. Can't comment on
the
>>mic pre's yet cause I haven't done any "live" tracking yet.
>>
>>In a nutshell, while I lament the fact that no one picked
>>up the Paris banner and kept it a current, valid tool,
>>I've seen enough to decide I'm committed to this new set-up for a while.
>>Ton's of potential here especially if I am able to take the time to learn
>>everything on the board as well as
>>deepening my Cubase chops.
>>
>>
>>I'm keeping a minimal PARIS rig to experiment with as
>>a stereo summing buss. I haven't heard the new rig
>>that way yet though so I'll let you know when I get
>>there. (On that note I'm probably going to need to get
>>a word clock. Is the little Hosa WDC427 worth
>>bothering with? Don't have much left to spend)
>>
>>I still have a KSP8 and BFD to learn and I think
>>the whole purpose of all this stuff is to actually
>>track and finish some tunes so I'm trying to curtail the usual time doing
>>the gear-head, noodle yanking, gear lust thing I'm
>>prone to and actually get a project done with what I have.
>>
>>Anyway, just wanted to give you guys an update and BTW a fair portion of
>>my Paris rig is for sale (See my FS post).
>>
>>Arriva Dishrag,
>>Jon
>>
>Yes, in the Master/Submix fader window, you can assign which subgroups
get assigned to the cards. Simply assign submix 1 to the EDS card
that has the MEC hanging off it that you want to use for your main
outs and you're done.
David.
Tom Bruhl wrote:
> David,
> I guess this a really dumb question but can I do what you said and rename
> the Master as card D? I've never ever tried that. . . If so, I can
> retain the
> 24bit outs for monitoring. That would solve alot if not all of the
> problems.
> Thanks,
> Tom
>
> PS 2 lines from last entry in Paris.cfg UseHouseSync=1
>
> RIGHT?
>
> I use WordPad to add and save.
>
>
>
>
> "EK Sound" <askme@nospam.com <mailto:askme@nospam.com>> wrote in
> message news:467156c5$1@linux...
> Try putting the 442 on the A card and the MEC's on the last two cards.
> You will need the house sync line for 3 + interfaces, and run
> seperate equal length WC cables to each interface. In the grand scheme
> of things it doesn't matter where the interfaces plug in, as you can
> re-arrange them in software.
>
> David.
>
> Tom Bruhl wrote:
> > Thanks guys. I will give your suggestions a try. I do have equal
> > length WC cables.
> > I will need that MEC Deej. Let me trouble shoot a little more
> just to
> > see if anything
> > helps my situation. Maybe even today if I can finish the 1,000
> things
> > in front of that
> > that I have to do.
> >
> > Thanks tons,
> > Tom
> >
> >
> > "DJ" <www.aarrrrggghhh!!!.com
> <http://www.aarrrrggghhh!!!.com> <http://www.aarrrrggghhh!!!.com>>
> > wrote in message news:46713b25@linux...
> > I had the same problem running three MECs and a 442. Losing
> the 442
> > in favor of another MEC solved the problem........prbably because
> > Paris likes to see a clock signal on all interfaces when it
> boots,
> > at least with mine, this seemed to be the case. The 442 is
> not able
> > to see a clock signal until after it initializes which is during
> > bootup so it's not siyncing at the same time as the other
> devices.
> > Also, with my system, each MEC was being sent a separate
> clock feed
> > from the GenX6, not daisy chained.
> >
> > Try this:
> >
> > 1. Turn on WC (set it to 44.1 if that's what you use for
> > tracking/mixing).
> > 2. Turn on any other devices that are interfacing with the WC
> > (including MECs-obviously you can't do this with a 442 since
> it gets
> > it's power from the computer-which, as stated above, may be
> the problem)
> > 3. Boot PC
> > 4. Launch Windows
> > 3. Go to Paris folder in your Program Files and launch Paris.exe
> > from that folder
> > 5. Set project to 48KHz (very important that the default
> project.ppj
> > be set to 48KHz), sync source external, save project under the
> > name "default project" (no quotes) to your Paris directory in the
> > program files folder and save it again under the same name to
> your
> > desktop.
> > 6. Close Paris
> > 7. Reboot computer
> >
> > Launch Paris from the desktop "default project.ppj". I've
> still got
> > that MEC here if you want to give it a try. The reason I was
> using a
> > 4 MEC system is because 3 x MECS and a 442 never did work
> reliably
> > for me.
> >
> > Deej
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > "Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net
> <mailto:arpegio@comcast.net> <mailto:arpegio@comcast.net>>
> > wrote in message news:4670de3c$1@linux...
> > I have a five card, XP, 2 x MEC, 1 x 442 and a Lucid Word
> clock
> > generator
> > that won't play nice. It was odd to begin with in that
> the WC
> > cables
> > had to run in series from the Lucid to Mec A then Mec E
> in a simpler
> > configuration. David gave me that advise since he owns
> the same
> > mobo
> > and hardware as I.
> >
> > Symptoms:
> > It will play back projects in parallel wc mode with all five
> > cards active. Bad news is it
> > won't allow any inputs except the first 16 on MEC A. All the
> > others never show up in the
> > meters although their associated input lights on the modules
> > light up.
> >
> > When wc is in series I lose the EDS cards that are in
> between A
> > and E (B, C & D) so no audio
> > plays off those cards but all hardware inputs work and
> print !
> > Huh? This is with or without
> > UseHouseSync=1 in the Paris config, with/without
> termination and
> > I tried a multitude of
> > combinations of Mecs and 442s connected to different cards.
> > Well, all but the 442 on Mec A
> > which is unacceptable anyway. It seems to like the 442
> last in
> > line with card E.
> >
> > I'm at a loss for a solution at this time. Any suggestions?
> > I'm thinking another Mec instead
> > of the 442 is all I can do. I plan to have four Mecs in
> total
> > if I can get three going successfully.
> >
> > I know Dimitrios was all over this months ago. He suggested
> > Mecs instead of 442s.
> > Anyone else?
> >
> > TIA,
> > Tom
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > I choose Polesoft Lockspam to fight spam, and you?
> > http://www.polesoft.com/refer.htmlI have a circuit I designed that lets a 2 humbucker guitar do a lot of tricks
w/ a minimum of switching. I installed it on my old PRS Custom 24 in the
place of the rotary switch (which I used for many years but have grown to
hate!). It uses a 4-pole/double throw mini toggle and a standard 3 position
switch. With the mini switch in the "normal" position you get a standard
Les Paul type 2 humbucking pu guitar. Flip the mini switch and the bridge
position is the two outside coils (closest to the bridge and farthest) in
series; neck position is the two inside coils in parallel (PRS calls this
"Parallel Strat"), center position is the series outsides + parallel insides
in parallel. 6 really useful sounds. The series outside coil sound is my
all time favorite. Sounds like a 10 foor tall Telecaster on steroids. If
you're interested I'll scan my drawing and post it. You need two humbuckers
w/ all the wires available and a 4 pole double throw mini switch to do it...
and, of course, a 2 humbucker guitar that you love to play.
Gantt
"John" <no@no.com> wrote:
>
>Any suggestions on a single electric guitar that can do Strat / Les Paul
/
>Telecaster sounds or some other guitar that has an amazing array of these
>type sounds?TCB wrote:
> Of course it's better to be secure to start with, but at least they patched
> quickly.
>
> http://www.macworld.com/news/2007/06/14/safari/index.php
>
> Good show for them.
That was quick. Good on Apple.
Cheers,
-Jamie
www.JamieKrutz.com
> TCBI have a strat, a tele, and an SG right here within arm's reach. That's
how I like to do it. I might be one of those purists that TCB just referred
to. :)
S
"John" <no@no.com> wrote in message news:46717541$1@linux...
>
> Any suggestions on a single electric guitar that can do Strat / Les Paul /
> Telecaster sounds or some other guitar that has an amazing array of these
> type sounds?Well, that's pretty close. :)
S
"dale" <dalebradleycello@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:4670fa40$1@linux...
>
> nope, down in Eugenetown (though some might consider it a commute)
>
>
> "Sarah" <sarahjane@sarahtonin.com> wrote:
>>Cello . . . ? (ears stand up) . . . Uh . . . you don't live in the
>>Portland
>
>>area, do you?
>>
>>Sarah
>>
>>
>>"dale" <dalebradleycello@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>news:46705097$1@linux...
>>>
>>> This sounds like fun....my cello will be at the ready in case someone
>
>>> starts
>>> another one
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> "Neil" <OIOIU@OIU.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>I've tried this twice here - no end result... always crapped
>>>>out before it got beyond a couple of parts. Deej tried it too,
>>>>I think - or if not him it was someone else who initiated
>>>>another one.
>>>>
>>>>Neil
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>"Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>I remember a couple of years back a bunch of guys off here were
>>>>>starting
>>>>>to record something by posting disks around...
>>>>>
>>>>>...did anything get finished? I never heard anything.
>>>>>
>>>>>Cheers,
>>>>>Kim.
>>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>TCB wrote:
> I'm really surprised by the responses here. I expected your PARIS types to
> be more of a purist lot. I just don't think it's possible to get a swamp
> ash guitar with the pickups mounted on a piece of plastic and a bolt on neck
> to sound like a mahogany/maple guitar with a different scale length, a set
> neck, and the pickups mounted on the wood.
For that matter two strats don't necessarily sound alike. :^)
My Variax electric 700 covers an impressive range of tonal
possibilities, and my PRS's pickup wiring scheme allows LP-enough and
strat-enough tones to shine where those sounds are expected. I've gotten
compliments about both guitars from tone junkies. I enjoy playing the
PRS more, but the Variax is a goto for gigs where I need ultimate
flexibility (including instant alternate tunings and acoustic guitar
sounds).
To really rattle the purists, I get tone compliments even when I'm not
playing through a tube amp (I know, total blasphemy ;^)
Cheers,
-Jamie
www.JamieKrutz.com
> TCB
>
> "John" <no@no.com> wrote:
>> Any suggestions on a single electric guitar that can do Strat / Les Paul
> /
>> Telecaster sounds or some other guitar that has an amazing array of these
>> type sounds?
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David,
I always used two identical Mecs so never had a need to swap
one for the Master. Nice to know.
Thanks again,
Tom
"EK Sound" <askme@nospam.com> wrote in message news:4671ab87@linux...
Yes, in the Master/Submix fader window, you can assign which subgroups =
get assigned to the cards. Simply assign submix 1 to the EDS card=20
that has the MEC hanging off it that you want to use for your main=20
outs and you're done.
David.
Tom Bruhl wrote:
> David,
> I guess this a really dumb question but can I do what you said and =
rename
> the Master as card D? I've never ever tried that. . . If so, I can =
> retain the
> 24bit outs for monitoring. That would solve alot if not all of the=20
> problems.
> Thanks,
> Tom
> =20
> PS 2 lines from last entry in Paris.cfg UseHouseSync=3D1=20
> =20
> RIGHT?
> =20
> I use WordPad to add and save.
> =20
> =20
> =20
>=20
> "EK Sound" <askme@nospam.com <mailto:askme@nospam.com>> wrote in
> message news:467156c5$1@linux...
> Try putting the 442 on the A card and the MEC's on the last two =
cards.
> You will need the house sync line for 3 + interfaces, and run
> seperate equal length WC cables to each interface. In the grand =
scheme
> of things it doesn't matter where the interfaces plug in, as you =
can
> re-arrange them in software.
>=20
> David.
>=20
> Tom Bruhl wrote:
> > Thanks guys. I will give your suggestions a try. I do have =
equal
> > length WC cables.
> > I will need that MEC Deej. Let me trouble shoot a little =
more
> just to
> > see if anything
> > helps my situation. Maybe even today if I can finish the =
1,000
> things
> > in front of that
> > that I have to do.
> >=20
> > Thanks tons,
> > Tom
> >=20
> >
> > "DJ" <www.aarrrrggghhh!!!.com
> <http://www.aarrrrggghhh!!!.com> =
<http://www.aarrrrggghhh!!!.com>>
> > wrote in message news:46713b25@linux...
> > I had the same problem running three MECs and a 442. =
Losing
> the 442
> > in favor of another MEC solved the problem........prbably =
because
> > Paris likes to see a clock signal on all interfaces when =
it
> boots,
> > at least with mine, this seemed to be the case. The 442 =
is
> not able
> > to see a clock signal until after it initializes which is =
during
> > bootup so it's not siyncing at the same time as the other
> devices.
> > Also, with my system, each MEC was being sent a separate
> clock feed
> > from the GenX6, not daisy chained.
> > =20
> > Try this:
> > =20
> > 1. Turn on WC (set it to 44.1 if that's what you use for
> > tracking/mixing).
> > 2. Turn on any other devices that are interfacing with =
the WC
> > (including MECs-obviously you can't do this with a 442 =
since
> it gets
> > it's power from the computer-which, as stated above, may =
be
> the problem)
> > 3. Boot PC
> > 4. Launch Windows
> > 3. Go to Paris folder in your Program Files and launch =
Paris.exe
> > from that folder
> > 5. Set project to 48KHz (very important that the default
> project.ppj
> > be set to 48KHz), sync source external, save project =
under the
> > name "default project" (no quotes) to your Paris =
directory in the
> > program files folder and save it again under the same =
name to
> your
> > desktop.
> > 6. Close Paris
> > 7. Reboot computer
> > =20
> > Launch Paris from the desktop "default project.ppj". I've
> still got
> > that MEC here if you want to give it a try. The reason I =
was
> using a
> > 4 MEC system is because 3 x MECS and a 442 never did work
> reliably
> > for me.
> > =20
> > Deej
> > =20
> > =20
> > =20
> > =20
> >
> > "Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net
> <mailto:arpegio@comcast.net> <mailto:arpegio@comcast.net>>
> > wrote in message news:4670de3c$1@linux...
> > I have a five card, XP, 2 x MEC, 1 x 442 and a Lucid =
Word
> clock
> > generator
> > that won't play nice. It was odd to begin with in =
that
> the WC
> > cables
> > had to run in series from the Lucid to Mec A then Mec =
E
> in a simpler
> > configuration. David gave me that advise since he =
owns
> the same
> > mobo
> > and hardware as I.
> > =20
> > Symptoms:
> > It will play back projects in parallel wc mode with =
all five
> > cards active. Bad news is it
> > won't allow any inputs except the first 16 on MEC A. =
All the
> > others never show up in the
> > meters although their associated input lights on the =
modules
> > light up.
> > =20
> > When wc is in series I lose the EDS cards that are in
> between A
> > and E (B, C & D) so no audio
> > plays off those cards but all hardware inputs work =
and
> print !
> > Huh? This is with or without
> > UseHouseSync=3D1 in the Paris config, with/without
> termination and
> > I tried a multitude of
> > combinations of Mecs and 442s connected to different =
cards.
> > Well, all but the 442 on Mec A
> > which is unacceptable anyway. It seems to like the =
442
> last in
> > line with card E.
> > =20
> > I'm at a loss for a solution at this time. Any =
suggestions?
> > I'm thinking another Mec instead
> > of the 442 is all I can do. I plan to have four Mecs =
in
> total
> > if I can get three going successfully.
> > =20
> > I know Dimitrios was all over this months ago. He =
suggested
> > Mecs instead of 442s.
> > Anyone else?
> > =20
> > TIA,
> > Tom
> > =20
> > =20
> >
> >
> > I choose Polesoft Lockspam to fight spam, and you?
> > http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Thanks again,</FONT></DIV>
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the MEC=20
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done.<BR><BR>David.<BR><BR>Tom Bruhl wrote:<BR>> David,<BR>> I =
guess=20
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rename<BR>> the=20
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can=20
<BR>> retain the<BR>> 24bit outs for monitoring. That =
would solve=20
alot if not all of the <BR>> problems.<BR>> Thanks,<BR>>=20
Tom<BR>> <BR>> PS &nbs p; 2 =
lines from=20
last entry in Paris.cfg UseHouseSync=3D1 =
<BR>> =20
=
<BR> > &a mp;nbsp;  =
;   ; =20
RIGHT?<BR>> <BR>> I use WordPad to add and =
save.<BR>> =20
<BR>> <BR>> <BR>> =
<BR>> "EK=20
Sound" <<A href=3D"mailto:askme@nospam.com">askme@nospam.com</A> =
<<A=20
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wrote=20
in<BR>> message <A=20
=
href=3D"news:467156c5$1@linux">news:467156c5$1@linux</A>...<BR>> =
=20
Try putting the 442 on the A card and the MEC's on the last two=20
cards.<BR> > &a mp;nbsp; You will need =
the=20
house sync line for 3 + interfaces, and =
run<BR>> =20
seperate equal length WC cables to each interface. In the grand=20
scheme<BR>> of things it doesn't matter =
where the=20
interfaces plug in, as you can<BR>> =
re-arrange them=20
in software.<BR>> <BR>> David.<BR>>=20
<BR>> Tom Bruhl=20
wrote:<BR>> > Thanks guys. I =
will=20
give your suggestions a try. I do have=20
equal<BR>> > length WC=20
cables.<BR>> > I will need that =
MEC=20
Deej. Let me trouble shoot a little =
more<BR>> =20
just to<BR>> > see if=20
anything<BR>> > helps my =
situation. =20
Maybe even today if I can finish the =
1,000<BR>> =20
things<BR>> > in front of=20
that<BR>> > that I have to=20
do.<BR>> >=20
<BR>> > Thanks=20
tons,<BR>> >=20
Tom<BR>> >=20
<BR> > =2 0
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> "DJ"=20
<<A=20
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t; =20
<<A=20
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<<A=20
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>>><BR> > =2 0
> wrote in message <A=20
=
href=3D"news:46713b25@linux">news:46713b25@linux</A>...<BR>> &nbs=
p; =20
> I had the same problem running three MECs =
and a=20
442. Losing<BR>> the=20
442<BR>> > =
in=20
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because<BR>> =
> =20
Paris likes to see a clock signal on all interfaces when=20
it<BR>> =20
boots,<BR>> =
> at=20
least with mine, this seemed to be the case. The 442=20
is<BR>> not=20
able<BR>> =
> to see=20
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during<BR>> =
> =20
bootup so it's not siyncing at the same time as the=20
other<BR>> =20
devices.<BR> > =2 0
> Also, with my system, each MEC was =
being=20
sent a separate<BR>> clock=20
feed<BR>> =
> from=20
the GenX6, not daisy chained.<BR> > =2 0
> <BR> > =2 0
> Try =
this:<BR> > =2 0
> <BR> > =2 0
> 1. Turn on WC (set it to 44.1 if that's =
what you=20
use for<BR>> =
> =20
tracking/mixing).<BR> > =2 0
> 2. Turn on any other devices that are =
interfacing=20
with the WC<BR>> =
> =20
(including MECs-obviously you can't do this with a 442=20
since<BR>> it=20
gets<BR>> =
> it's=20
power from the computer-which, as stated above, may=20
be<BR>> the=20
problem)<BR>> =
> 3.=20
Boot PC<BR>> =
> 4.=20
Launch Windows<BR> > =2 0
> 3. Go to Paris folder in your Program =
Files and=20
launch Paris.exe<BR> > =2 0
> from that=20
folder<BR>> =
> 5.=20
Set project to 48KHz (very important that the=20
default<BR>> =20
project.ppj<BR>> =
> =20
be set to 48KHz), sync source external, save project under=20
the<BR>> > =
name=20
"default project" (no quotes) to your Paris directory in=20
the<BR>> > =
program=20
files folder and save it again under the same name=20
to<BR>> =
your<BR> > =2 0
> =
desktop.<BR> > =2 0
> 6. Close=20
Paris<BR>> =
> 7.=20
Reboot computer<BR> > =2 0
> <BR> > =2 0
> Launch Paris from the desktop "default=20
project.ppj". I've<BR>> still=20
got<BR>> > =
that=20
MEC here if you want to give it a try. The reason I=20
was<BR>> using=20
a<BR>> > 4 =
MEC=20
system is because 3 x MECS and a 442 never did=20
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reliably<BR>> =
> =20
for me.<BR>> =
> =20
<BR>> > =20
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> =20
<BR>> > =20
<BR>> > =20
<BR>> > =20
<BR> > =2 0
><BR> > =2 0
> &a mp;nbsp; "Tom Bruhl" =
<<A=20
=
href=3D"mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A><BR>> =
=20
<<A =
href=3D"mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">mailto:arpegio@comcast.net</A>>=20
<<A=20
=
href=3D"mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">mailto:arpegio@comcast.net</A>>>=
;<BR> > =2 0
> &a mp;nbsp; wrote in message =
<A=20
=
href=3D"news:4670de3c$1@linux">news:4670de3c$1@linux</A>...<BR>> =
=20
> &a mp;nbsp; I have a five =
card, XP, 2=20
x MEC, 1 x 442 and a Lucid Word<BR>> =20
clock<BR> > =2 0
> &a mp;nbsp; =20
generator<BR> > =2 0
> &a mp;nbsp; that won't play=20
nice. It was odd to begin with in =
that<BR>> =20
the WC<BR> > =2 0
> &a mp;nbsp; =20
cables<BR> > =2 0
> &a mp;nbsp; had to run in =
series from=20
the Lucid to Mec A then Mec E<BR>> in a=20
simpler<BR> > =2 0
> &a mp;nbsp; =
configuration. =20
David gave me that advise since he =
owns<BR>> the=20
same<BR> > =2 0
> &a mp;nbsp; =20
mobo<BR> > =2 0
> &a mp;nbsp; and hardware as=20
I.<BR> > =2 0
> &a mp;nbsp; =20
<BR> > =2 0
> &a mp;nbsp; =20
Symptoms:<BR> > =2 0
> &a mp;nbsp; It will play back =
projects in parallel wc mode with all=20
five<BR> > =2 0
> &a mp;nbsp; cards =
active. Bad=20
news is it<BR> > =2 0
> &a mp;nbsp; won't allow any =
inputs=20
except the first 16 on MEC A. All=20
the<BR> > =2 0
> &a mp;nbsp; others never show =
up in=20
the<BR> > =2 0
> &a mp;nbsp; meters although =
their=20
associated input lights on the =
modules<BR> > =2 0
> &a mp;nbsp; light=20
up.<BR> > =2 0
> &a mp;nbsp; =20
<BR> > =2 0
> &a mp;nbsp; When wc is in =
series I=20
lose the EDS cards that are in<BR>> between =
A<BR> > =2 0
> &a mp;nbsp; and E (B, C & =
D) so=20
no audio<BR> > =2 0
> &a mp;nbsp; plays off those =
cards but=20
all hardware inputs work and<BR>> print=20
!<BR> > =2 0
> &a mp;nbsp; Huh? This =
is with=20
or without<BR> > =2 0
> &a mp;nbsp; UseHouseSync=3D1 =
in the=20
Paris config, with/without<BR>> termination =
and<BR> > =2 0
> &a mp;nbsp; I tried a =
multitude=20
of<BR> > =2 0
> &a mp;nbsp; combinations of =
Mecs and=20
442s connected to different =
cards.<BR> > =2 0
> &a mp;nbsp; Well, all but the =
442 on=20
Mec A<BR> > =2 0
> &a mp;nbsp; which is =
unacceptable=20
anyway. It seems to like the 442<BR>> =
last=20
in<BR> > =2 0
> &a mp;nbsp; line with card=20
E.<BR> > =2 0
> &a mp;nbsp; =20
<BR> > =2 0
> &a mp;nbsp; I'm at a loss for =
a=20
solution at this time. Any=20
suggestions?<BR> > =2 0
> &a mp;nbsp; I'm thinking =
another Mec=20
instead<BR> > =2 0
> &a mp;nbsp; of the 442 is all =
I can=20
do. I plan to have four Mecs in<BR>> =20
total<BR> > =2 0
> &a mp;nbsp; if I can get =
three going=20
successfully.<BR> > =2 0
> &a mp;nbsp; =20
<BR> > =2 0
> &a mp;nbsp; I know Dimitrios =
was all=20
over this months ago. He=20
suggested<BR> > =2 0
> &a mp;nbsp; Mecs instead of=20
442s.<BR> > =2 0
> &a mp;nbsp; Anyone=20
else?<BR> > =2 0
> &a mp;nbsp; =20
<BR> > =2 0
> &a mp;nbsp; =20
TIA,<BR> > =2 0
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Tom<BR> > =2 0
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<BR> > =2 0
> &a mp;nbsp; =20
<BR> > =2 0
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> &a mp;nbsp; I choose Polesoft =
Lockspam to fight spam, and you?<BR>> =
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Gantt,
Please post the diagram for your setup. That sounds great.
Tom
"Gantt Kushner" <ganttmann@comcast.net> wrote in message =
news:4671ac3c$1@linux...
I have a circuit I designed that lets a 2 humbucker guitar do a lot of =
tricks
w/ a minimum of switching. I installed it on my old PRS Custom 24 in =
the
place of the rotary switch (which I used for many years but have grown =
to
hate!). It uses a 4-pole/double throw mini toggle and a standard 3 =
position
switch. With the mini switch in the "normal" position you get a =
standard
Les Paul type 2 humbucking pu guitar. Flip the mini switch and the =
bridge
position is the two outside coils (closest to the bridge and farthest) =
in
series; neck position is the two inside coils in parallel (PRS calls =
this
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insides
in parallel. 6 really useful sounds. The series outside coil sound =
is my
all time favorite. Sounds like a 10 foor tall Telecaster on steroids. =
If
you're interested I'll scan my drawing and post it. You need two =
humbuckers
w/ all the wires available and a 4 pole double throw mini switch to do =
it...
and, of course, a 2 humbucker guitar that you love to play.
Gantt
"John" <no@no.com> wrote:
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>Any suggestions on a single electric guitar that can do Strat / Les =
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the MEC starts.
For me a "normal" startup will show the Internal reference light up, then
the sample rate, then Master Clip and then Abit24 Clip.
But sometimes, maybe once on 5 attemps, there will be no communication with
the MEC.
The light up sequence will not occur. then if i check in my Patchbay window,
there are some components missing.
I close up the App and start it up immediatly and it is then ok...
Has it happened to anyone,, any ideas? any driver update?
See the provided Attached images just in case
thank you!
NJ
wow man.. nice catch. Dude got skllls.
"Don Nafe" <dnafe@magma.ca> wrote in message news:4671dce7@linux...
> Enjoy
>
> http://youtube.com/watch?v=1k08yxu57NA
>These are fucking great prices for those mics - I can attest
that if these mics are as good as the one I had from Mike C.,
no one here will be disappointed... kinda regret selling the
one I had to Thadster, in fact. <snif>
Neil
"DJ" <www.aarrrrggghhh!!!.com> wrote:
>Check 'em out
>
>;o)
>
>On Wed, 13 Jun 2007 22:14:04 -0600, "DJ" <www.aarrrrggghhh!!!.com>
wrote:
>dang!!!..WTF did I type???. .......it's been so long since I've had sleep
>that I'm sitting here in a room with Abraham Lincoln, a talking muskrat and
>a guy in a hardhat diving suit. OK, here it is again:..............
>
Ya know, I see that ad all the time and the only thing I can think is,
"Why the F*&(# would I want to take that pill if the result is Abraham
Lincoln, a talking beaver, and a salvage diver???"
Not really hitting the target audience, I'm thinking.
pabHow about telecaster sounds for country blister picking. hehe
Mark McDermott wrote:
> I own a lot of guitars (my fiance says I'm not allowed to buy anymore as they're
> literally taking up half of my town house). If I had to pick only one it
> would be my Floyd Rose-equipped '73 Fender Strat with the EMG DG-20 David
> Gilmore pickup set.
>
> In place of the normal Strat tone controls, the DG-20 has a bass/treble booster
> and a midrange booster.
>
> Super-jangly Strat sounds (bass/treble booster up) or thick LP-type tones
> (bass/treble booster down & midrange boost up) + everything in-between!
>
> I love it!
>
> Mark
>
>
> "John" <no@no.com> wrote:
>> Any suggestions on a single electric guitar that can do Strat / Les Paul
> /
>> Telecaster sounds or some other guitar that has an amazing array of these
>> type sounds?
>"John" <no@no.com> wrote:
>
>Any suggestions on a single electric guitar that can do Strat / Les Paul
/
>Telecaster sounds or some other guitar that has an amazing array of these
>type sounds?
Decent-quality guitars are cheap nowadays, you should just buy
one of each if you're looking for tonal variations. Part of
what makes each guitar sound like itself is the wood, the neck
radius (a bend on a maple-fingerboard strat has a different
quality than a bend on an ebony-fretted gibson LP custom), the
hardware configurations (bridge, tuning key lineups, etc)
contribute subtle differences, as do a bazillion other factors
in minute quantities.
Get an Epiphone LP Standard, a Squire strat & Tele, find the
best-playing ones you can & have them set-up by someone halfway
decent, & you'll be a happy guy if those are the three basic
tonalities you're looking for without breaking the bank.
Or get a Variax.
NeilOn Thu, 14 Jun 2007 20:20:43 -0400, "Don Nafe" <dnafe@magma.ca> wrote:
>Enjoy
>
> http://youtube.com/watch?v=1k08yxu57NA
>
Holy crap!!! That was amazing.
One thought, though - should he really go on and try to make it a
career, thus possibly sucking all the joy out of singing, or should he
just continue with his day job and sing because he loves it?
That's a tough call. Speaking as one who turned a hobby into a
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Deej [4]
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business, got burned out, and will probably never do stained glass
again, it's a risk.
pabI can't compare these to yours/Thad's mic, but these are a couple of
extremely good builds (the green one is Mikes very first Royer build) and
Claytor is very consistent and an excellent circuit man. I would imagine
we're talking apples to apples. I'm prolly going to kick myself at some
point for selling these. There are some singers that will inevitably be
coming back here and wanting to know where *their mic* went so I'll have to
wean them on to a different one. I even thought about replacing the tube and
shell on one or the other (the coating on the grill affects the tone a
little) of these and matching them up for extra duty as OH's or room mics
but I couldn't decide which of the voicings I would want two of. they are
more useful having a little difference in the voicings. When Ed Stasium was
over here last, he brought over a matched pair of AT 4060's and left them
here for a few days. I compared these to them and I personally preferred
either of these mics to the AT's. The AT's were brighter and more *solid
state* sounding by comparison. If these were multipattern, I would be
keeping them. As it is, I have a pair of matched cardiod LDC tube mics
(Manley Baby Blues) and a matched pair of AT 4050's for stereo LDC
multipattern duties so these, being tube cardiods, are a bit redundant. They
are every bit in the same league with the Manleys, IMO. I know that's a
stretch to believe, but to my ears, they are at that level of detail (and
these Manleys cost over $1600.00 new, when they were making them), though
the Manleys are a bit more mechanically versatile, being front address 1"
capsules. I am needing the flexibility that multipatterns provide and the
mic I'm buying is a Peluso 2247 (multipattern). I have A/B'ed it with these
and they have their tonal differences, but they are in the same general
ballpark as far as detail and smoothness are concerned. Probably has a bit
to do with the Peluso capsules in these mics.
They are going up on EBay this weekend if there are no takers here.
;o)
Deej
970-769-0488
animix at animas dot net
"Neil" <IUOI@OI.com> wrote in message news:4671e52e$1@linux...
>
> These are fucking great prices for those mics - I can attest
> that if these mics are as good as the one I had from Mike C.,
> no one here will be disappointed... kinda regret selling the
> one I had to Thadster, in fact. <snif>
>
>
> Neil
>
>
>
> "DJ" <www.aarrrrggghhh!!!.com> wrote:
>>Check 'em out
>>
>>;o)
>>
>>
>Haha I agree with you! I can't believe it!
My 2 cents. A strat, a tele and a les with a bigsby trem and locking nuts.
Also, a must have is a gibson vintage f hole.
After that an SG and a les junior.
Other areas we will agree on... USE AN AMP!
Chuck
"DC" <dc@spammersinhell.com> wrote:
>
>Some good ideas here. But I am in the "buy 2 guitars" camp.
>
>A good LP and a hardtail strat would be the minimum.
>
>DC
>
>
>"John" <no@no.com> wrote:
>>
>>Any suggestions on a single electric guitar that can do Strat / Les Paul
>/
>>Telecaster sounds or some other guitar that has an amazing array of these
>>type sounds?
>John <aint@itawful.com> wrote:
>How about telecaster sounds for country blister picking. hehe
You mean the stuff that sounds kinda like: "quackety-quackety-
quack! quackety-quackety-quachinka-quaaaa!"
I'd rather listen to seventeen AFLAC commercials in a row.
:DGee, I always thought those commercials were saying guys who drive
Lincolns like to dive for beaver!
- Paul Artola
Ellicott City, Maryland
On Thu, 14 Jun 2007 19:56:42 -0500, Paul Braun
<cygnus_nospam@ctgonline.org> wrote:
>On Wed, 13 Jun 2007 22:14:04 -0600, "DJ" <www.aarrrrggghhh!!!.com>
>wrote:
>
>>dang!!!..WTF did I type???. .......it's been so long since I've had sleep
>>that I'm sitting here in a room with Abraham Lincoln, a talking muskrat and
>>a guy in a hardhat diving suit. OK, here it is again:..............
>>
>Ya know, I see that ad all the time and the only thing I can think is,
>"Why the F*&(# would I want to take that pill if the result is Abraham
>Lincoln, a talking beaver, and a salvage diver???"
>
>Not really hitting the target audience, I'm thinking.
>
>pabTCB wrote:
> Well, while no two strats sound identical, two strats built with basically
> the same build (wood, pickups, roughly the same weight) are going to sound
> very, very alike. Certainly more alike than they will to any Les Paul.
Yep. But strats can sound very different, too. It's funny, there was a
bit of initial criticism of the Variax because the strat emulation
didn't sound EXACTLY like the recent strats some people owned. Turns out
Line 6 did the emulation based on a particular rare and expensive
vintage strat with a particular sound.
The fun thing is you use the workbench software and raise the output
levels, change the body being emulated to increase sustain, and get a
hotter, sustainier strat sound. Which I did. I matched it with the other
"pickup" output levels so when I "switch guitars" I don't have to
change anything in my signal chain.
You can even experiment with the emulated volume pot resistor impedance
and the tone control capacitor value for each pickup combo in each bank.
And drop in different emulated pickups , put them anywhere including on
the neck behind the frets, or on top of each other, and rotate them as
you please. Go nuts, without soldering or sawdust.
OTOH, the whammy is a bit wobbly a
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Deej [4]
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nd the guitar is not as well built as,
say, my PRS. It's also only a 22 fret neck on the electric models, which
is weird because there are no pickups in the way to add two (or more)
additional frets. On the plus side it's decently playable; the sound is
quite good; and the tech is as clever as PARIS, and as reasonably
faithful to what is being emulated.
Transposing is pretty good but not perfect, there can be some DSP
artifacts especially on non-wound strings. But in context it works
pretty well for open tunings, mild capoing and low string octave bass.
> I'm not knocking technology or new gear, not in the least. I'm just surprised
> that _other_ people are using such modern guitar gear as the PARIS community
> seems, um, how do I say this, more on the traditional side than most.
It's possible to appreciate a good trad mag pickup guitar for what it is
and can do, and also appreciate DSP emulation for what it is and can do.
I like both. Both have been suggested in this thread.
I haven't run into any guitar players that were snobbish about the
variax once they heard it. Same for when I use a non-tube preamp setup,
once folks hear what I get out of the rig the comments have been good.
It all comes down to tone.
> I've thought about a Variax, actually, but not so much for the different
> sounds but so I can store tunings.
On the electric variax my first custom bank is set up with an ES335
neck, a strat bridge/middle spank, a jumbo acoustic, the same acoustic
down half a step, and a les paul bridge.
My second custom bank is set up with a DADGAD tuned martin, an octave
down guitar (forget which one) for playing bass lines, a drop D tuned
acoustic, a sitar, and the ES335 neck.
My third custom bank is set up to sound similar to my PRS in all PRS
pickup positions. Who says all you need is strat/lp? PRS's sound great
too. :^)
What else...I have a full customized five way strat bank when I want to
live just in stratland, and a bank of tele sounds that I sometimes use.
I like some of the stock jazzbox emulations. I occasionally use some of
the oddball guitars and non-guitar emulations. I have a bank of acoustic
six and 12 string models, and some dobro emulations in several different
open tunings for slide.
If I'm going to do a lot of acoustic stuff at a gig and I have room,
I'll bring the acoustic variax because it's set up with heavier strings
so I can lay into it more, and it lets me adjust compression on the fly
which is great for fingerpicked stuff (with no feedback).
Cheers,
-Jamie
www.JamieKrutz.com
> TCB
>
> Jamie K <Meta@Dimensional.com> wrote:
>> TCB wrote:
>>> I'm really surprised by the responses here. I expected your PARIS types
> to
>>> be more of a purist lot. I just don't think it's possible to get a swamp
>>> ash guitar with the pickups mounted on a piece of plastic and a bolt on
> neck
>>> to sound like a mahogany/maple guitar with a different scale length, a
> set
>>> neck, and the pickups mounted on the wood.
>> For that matter two strats don't necessarily sound alike. :^)
>>
>> My Variax electric 700 covers an impressive range of tonal
>> possibilities, and my PRS's pickup wiring scheme allows LP-enough and
>> strat-enough tones to shine where those sounds are expected. I've gotten
>
>> compliments about both guitars from tone junkies. I enjoy playing the
>> PRS more, but the Variax is a goto for gigs where I need ultimate
>> flexibility (including instant alternate tunings and acoustic guitar
>> sounds).
>>
>> To really rattle the purists, I get tone compliments even when I'm not
>> playing through a tube amp (I know, total blasphemy ;^)
>>
>> Cheers,
>> -Jamie
>> www.JamieKrutz.com
>>
>>
>>
>>> TCB
>>>
>>> "John" <no@no.com> wrote:
>>>> Any suggestions on a single electric guitar that can do Strat / Les Paul
>>> /
>>>> Telecaster sounds or some other guitar that has an amazing array of these
>>>> type sounds?
>LOL. Get a room, you two!
I dig those guitars through a good amp, too.
Remember when using an electric guitar and a guitar amp was heresy? They
booed Bob Dylan
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off the stage. USE A REAL GUITAR!! Heh.
Flash forward and now that stuff is traditional
I bet you would both dig my variax setup if you heard it.
And Chuck, I bet you would even like what I do with amp emulations, once
you hear some of my custom setups (which stand up to comparison with my
tube rig).
Cheers,
-Jamie
www.JamieKrutz.com
chuck duffy wrote:
> Haha I agree with you! I can't believe it!
>
> My 2 cents. A strat, a tele and a les with a bigsby trem and locking nuts.
> Also, a must have is a gibson vintage f hole.
>
> After that an SG and a les junior.
>
> Other areas we will agree on... USE AN AMP!
>
> Chuck
>
> "DC" <dc@spammersinhell.com> wrote:
>> Some good ideas here. But I am in the "buy 2 guitars" camp.
>>
>> A good LP and a hardtail strat would be the minimum.
>>
>> DC
>>
>>
>> "John" <no@no.com> wrote:
>>> Any suggestions on a single electric guitar that can do Strat / Les Paul
>> /
>>> Telecaster sounds or some other guitar that has an amazing array of these
>>> type sounds?
>Hmm Deej, I have the 2247 shorty, I'd say get the long body. I like mine
alot, but it is DARK. I really want a U99 or some other U67 type of mic and
a P1.
So these mics are too mismatched for OH duty?
"DJ" <www.aarrrrggghhh!!!.com> wrote:
>I can't compare these to yours/Thad's mic, but these are a couple of
>extremely good builds (the green one is Mikes very first Royer build) and
>Claytor is very consistent and an excellent circuit man. I would imagine
>we're talking apples to apples. I'm prolly going to kick myself at some
>point for selling these. There are some singers that will inevitably be
>coming back here and wanting to know where *their mic* went so I'll have
to
>wean them on to a different one. I even thought about replacing the tube
and
>shell on one or the other (the coating on the grill affects the tone a
>little) of these and matching them up for extra duty as OH's or room mics
>but I couldn't decide which of the voicings I would want two of. they are
>more useful having a little difference in the voicings. When Ed Stasium
was
>over here last, he brought over a matched pair of AT 4060's and left them
>here for a few days. I compared these to them and I personally preferred
>either of these mics to the AT's. The AT's were brighter and more *solid
>state* sounding by comparison. If these were multipattern, I would be
>keeping them. As it is, I have a pair of matched cardiod LDC tube mics
>(Manley Baby Blues) and a matched pair of AT 4050's for stereo LDC
>multipattern duties so these, being tube cardiods, are a bit redundant.
They
>are every bit in the same league with the Manleys, IMO. I know that's a
>stretch to believe, but to my ears, they are at that level of detail (and
>these Manleys cost over $1600.00 new, when they were making them), though
>the Manleys are a bit more mechanically versatile, being front address 1"
>capsules. I am needing the flexibility that multipatterns provide and the
>mic I'm buying is a Peluso 2247 (multipattern). I have A/B'ed it with these
>and they have their tonal differences, but they are in the same general
>ballpark as far as detail and smoothness are concerned. Probably has a bit
>to do with the Peluso capsules in these mics.
>
>They are going up on EBay this weekend if there are no takers here.
>;o)
>Deej
>970-769-0488
>animix at animas dot net
>
>
>"Neil" <IUOI@OI.com> wrote in message news:4671e52e$1@linux...
>>
>> These are fucking great prices for those mics - I can attest
>> that if these mics are as good as the one I had from Mike C.,
>> no one here will be disappointed... kinda regret selling the
>> one I had to Thadster, in fact. <snif>
>>
>>
>> Neil
>>
>>
>>
>> "DJ" <www.aarrrrggghhh!!!.com> wrote:
>>>Check 'em out
>>>
>>>;o)
>>>
>>>
>>
>
>Astonishing!
Paul, it is better to have loved and lost...
Paul Braun wrote:
> On Thu, 14 Jun 2007 20:20:43 -0400, "Don Nafe" <dnafe@magma.ca> wrote:
>
>> Enjoy
>>
>> http://youtube.com/watch?v=1k08yxu57NA
>>
>
> Holy crap!!! That was amazing.
>
> One thought, though - should he really go on and try to make it a
> career, thus possibly sucking all the joy out of singing, or should he
> just continue with his day job and sing because he loves it?
>
> That's a tough call. Speaking as one who turned a hobby into a
> business, got burned out, and will probably never do stained glass
> again, it's a risk.
>
> pabYou need a Strescaster!
John wrote:
> Any suggestions on a single electric guitar that can do Strat / Les Paul /
> Telecaster sounds or some other guitar that has an amazing array of these
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> Hmm Deej, I have the 2247 shorty, I'd say get the long body. I like =
mine
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mic and
> a P1.=20
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> So these mics are too mismatched for OH duty?
According to the owner, who I know and trust implicitly:..........
"The mic was a one off tweaking in which I asked John Peluso to make me =
a mic that was sonically and performance smack dab between a U47 and =
U67...To this end, I think he did just that...it sounds like no other =
Peluso I've heard, and compares very favorably with the Pearlman =
(actually a bit warmer than the Pearlman)...I am fairly certain the mic =
has a 5 star 6072 essentially a very high quality 12AY7...the power =
supply is fully regulated"
I haven't opened it up and checked the tube, but that's not really a big =
issue with me after having heard it. I't a "larger than life" kinda' mic =
and fits my focusrite RED7 like they were made for each other. the RED7 =
has a bit of brightness and agressiveness to it so maybe the preamp is =
offsetting some of the darkness you refer to. Having never heard another =
2247 or the 2247 SE, I can't really compare, but I have heard a real U47 =
and a real U67 and if memory serves, this mic is in that kind of league. =
I'm not really looking for a U47 as much as I'm looking for a vocal mic =
with big league characteristics. This mic is very flattering to the =
human voice, isn't overly dark and sounds HUGE!!
Thanks for the heads up though. I will be looking into a U47 clone =
sometime in the future,I'm sure. Have you compared the 2247SE to a U47 =
or any of the existing hig end clones?
;o)
>=20
> "DJ" <www.aarrrrggghhh!!!.com> wrote:
>>I can't compare these to yours/Thad's mic, but these are a couple of=20
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>>little) of these and matching them up for extra duty as OH's or room =
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>=20
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*solid
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>>(Manley Baby Blues) and a matched pair of AT 4050's for stereo LDC=20
>>multipattern duties so these, being tube cardiods, are a bit =
redundant.
> They=20
>>are every bit in the same league with the Manleys, IMO. I know that's =
a
>=20
>>stretch to believe, but to my ears, they are at that level of detail =
(and
>=20
>>these Manleys cost over $1600.00 new, when they were making them), =
though
>=20
>>the Manleys are a bit more mechanically versatile, being front address =
1"
>=20
>>capsules. I am needing the flexibility that multipatterns provide and =
the
>=20
>>mic I'm buying is a Peluso 2247 (multipattern). I have A/B'ed it with =
these
>=20
>>and they have their tonal differences, but they are in the same =
general
>=20
>>ballpark as far as detail and smoothness are concerned. Probably has a =
bit
>=20
>>to do with the Peluso capsules in these mics.
>>
>>They are going up on EBay this weekend if there are no takers here.
>>;o)
>>Deej
>>970-769-0488
>>animix at animas dot net
>>
>>
>>"Neil" <IUOI@OI.com> wrote in message news:4671e52e$1@linux...
>>>
>>> These are fucking great prices for those mics - I can attest
>>> that if these mics are as good as the one I had from Mike C.,
>>> no one here will be disappointed... kinda regret selling the
>>> one I had to Thadster, in fact. <snif>
>>>
>>>
>>> Neil
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> "DJ" <www.aarrrrggghhh!!!.com> wrote:
>>>>Check 'em out
>>>>
>>>>;o)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>=20
>>
>>
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>> <BR>> <BR>> Hmm Deej, I have =
the 2247=20
shorty, I'd say get the long body. I like mine<BR>> alot, but it is =
DARK. I=20
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<BR>> So these mics are too mismatched for OH duty?</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>According to the owner, who I know and =
trust=20
implicitly:..........</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><EM>"The mic was a one off tweaking in =
which I=20
asked John Peluso to make me a mic that was sonically and performance =
smack dab=20
between a U47 and U67...To this end, I think he did just that...it =
sounds like=20
no other Peluso I've heard, and compares very favorably with the =
Pearlman=20
(actually a bit warmer than the Pearlman)...I am fairly certain the mic =
has a 5=20
star 6072 essentially a very high quality 12AY7...the power supply is =
fully=20
regulated"</EM></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><EM></EM></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I haven't opened it up and checked the =
tube, but=20
that's not really a big issue with me after having heard it. I't a =
"larger than=20
life" kinda' mic and fits my focusrite RED7 like they were made for each =
other.=20
the RED7 has a bit of brightness and agressiveness to it so maybe the =
preamp is=20
offsetting some of the darkness you refer to. Having never heard another =
2247 or=20
the 2247 SE, I can't really compare, but I have heard a real U47 and a =
real U67=20
and if memory serves, this mic is in that kind of league. I'm not really =
looking=20
for a U47 as much as I'm looking for a vocal mic with big league=20
characteristics. This mic is very flattering to the human voice, isn't =
overly=20
dark and sounds HUGE!!</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Thanks for the heads up though. I will =
be looking=20
into a U47 clone sometime in the future,I'm sure. Have you compared the =
2247SE=20
to a U47 or any of the existing hig end clones?</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>;o)</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>> <BR>> "DJ" <</FONT><A=20
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size=3D2>www.aarrrrggghhh!!!.com</FONT></A><FONT face=3DArial =
size=3D2>>=20
wrote:<BR>>>I can't compare these to yours/Thad's mic, but these =
are a=20
couple of <BR>>>extremely good builds (the green one is Mikes very =
first=20
Royer build) and<BR>> <BR>>>Claytor is very consistent and an =
excellent=20
circuit man. I would imagine<BR>> <BR>>>we're talking =
apples to=20
apples. I'm prolly going to kick myself at some<BR>> =
<BR>>>point for=20
selling these. There are some singers that will inevitably be<BR>>=20
<BR>>>coming back here and wanting to know where *their mic* went =
so I'll=20
have<BR>> to <BR>>>wean them on to a different one. I even =
thought=20
about replacing the tube<BR>> and <BR>>>shell on one or the =
other (the=20
coating on the grill affects the tone a <BR>>>little) of these and =
matching them up for extra duty as OH's or room mics<BR>> =
<BR>>>but I=20
couldn't decide which of the voicings I would want two of. they =
are<BR>>=20
<BR>>>more useful having a little difference in the voicings. When =
Ed=20
Stasium<BR>> was <BR>>>over here last, he brought over a =
matched pair=20
of AT 4060's and left them<BR>> <BR>>>here for a few days. I =
compared=20
these to them and I personally preferred<BR>> <BR>>>either of =
these=20
mics to the AT's. The AT's were brighter and more *solid<BR>>=20
<BR>>>state* sounding by comparison. If these were multipattern, I =
would=20
be <BR>>>keeping them. As it is, I have a pair of matched cardiod =
LDC tube=20
mics <BR>>>(Manley Baby Blues) and a matched pair of AT 4050's for =
stereo=20
LDC <BR>>>multipattern duties so these, being tube cardiods, are a =
bit=20
redundant.<BR>> They <BR>>>are every bit in the same league =
with the=20
Manleys, IMO. I know that's a<BR>> <BR>>>stretch to believe, =
but to my=20
ears, they are at that level of detail (and<BR>> <BR>>>these =
Manleys=20
cost over $1600.00 new, when they were making them), though<BR>>=20
<BR>>>the Manleys are a bit more mechanically versatile, being =
front=20
address 1"<BR>> <BR>>>capsules. I am needing the =
flexibility that=20
multipatterns provide and the<BR>> <BR>>>mic I'm buying is a =
Peluso=20
2247 (multipattern). I have A/B'ed it with these<BR>> <BR>>>and =
they=20
have their tonal differences, but they are in the same general<BR>>=20
<BR>>>ballpark as far as detail and smoothness are concerned. =
Probably has=20
a bit<BR>> <BR>>>to do with the Peluso capsules in these=20
mics.<BR>>><BR>>>They are going up on EBay this weekend if =
there are=20
no takers=20
here.<BR>>>;o)<BR>>>Deej<BR >>>970-769-0488<BR>>>a=
nimix=20
at animas dot net<BR>>><BR>>><BR>>> "Neil" =
<</FONT><A=20
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face=3DArial size=3D2>> wrote in message </FONT><A=20
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size=3D2>...<BR>>>><BR>>>> These are fucking great =
prices for=20
those mics - I can attest<BR>>>> that if these mics are as good =
as the=20
one I had from Mike C.,<BR>>>> no one here will be =
disappointed...=20
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fact. =20
<snif><BR>>>><BR>>>> <BR>>>>=20
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------=_NextPart_000_0288_01C7AEC6.B32284D0--I went over the Protools mix guy's studio yesterday to hear the mixes of the
project that I played on. He mentioned again that I was cutting too hot.
We got into a friendly disagreement about the subject. He said he would always
gain down the track (basically rendering it and doing a gain reduction) if
it was that hot because the plugs wouldn't have any headroom to work. (I
noticed he was using UAD stuff)I asked about inserting a plug with more headroom
before the offending plug to adjust level that way, and he was pretty opinionated
that that would affect the sonic quality in a bad way. He's a good guy, so
in the interest of not wasting the artist's time who invited me, I just let
it drop. The mixes sounded pretty good though. Although very low in level.
He's hip to the summing buss in protools choking if you push it too hard.
It will just have to be made up in mastering. Opinions???
Rod"Cujo" <chris@applemanstudio.com> wrote in message news:4671fbef$1@linux...
>
>
>> So these mics are too mismatched for OH duty?
>
You could use them for OH duty. The differences are almost completely
inaudible unless working with them up close on hot sources. You could gain
match them and you might want either roll off or boost a teensy bit (about
1/2 to 1dB with a 1/2 octave Q) in the 4-6KHz range on one of the mics to
match up their frequencies if you even noticed any imbalance. If you're a
tech or know a good one, you could match the tubes (and I'd match the
grilles also-the gold plated grille may lend itself to a teeny different
tonality than the black painted grill for up close vocal work) and you'd be
extremely close. The capsules were both purchased at the same time directly
from John Peluso, are from the same QC'ed batch and should be very close to
a match.
give me a call if you want to talk about these. I'm available tonight
970-769-0488
;o)Jamie, I'm surprised by your praise of the Variax. I found it
disappointingly dead feeling and it seemed to have a latency in creating
the sound. Also the instrument was shite and looked like a toy to me,
but I don't think it was the expensive model. I do really like the
concept of it - maybe I should give it another shot, but they need to
make a pretty version. A guitar is like a woman - it should be as pretty
as possible, don't you think.
I'm also surprised by the suggestions that tapping a humbucker gives a
decent Strat sound. I tried that in 1978 and it sucked. i tried it again
about every 10 years since and it sucked every time. Can it have stopped
sucking in the new millennia? I doubt it.
If I were mostly an R&B and rock player I would do a Strat w/ a
humbucker in the bridge. That's about the most versatile setup I have
heard. I actually have a handmade strat with EMGs and a midrange boost
knob that does a pretty strong lead sound and of course excels at
shimmery rhythm sounds.
Jamie K wrote:
>
> LOL. Get a room, you two!
>
> I dig those guitars through a good amp, too.
>
> Remember when using an electric guitar and a guitar amp was heresy? They
> booed Bob Dylan off the stage. USE A REAL GUITAR!! Heh.
>
> Flash forward and now that stuff is traditional
>
> I bet you would both dig my variax setup if you heard it.
>
> And Chuck, I bet you would even like what I do with amp emulations, once
> you hear some of my custom setups (which stand up to comparison with my
> tube rig).
>
> Cheers,
> -Jamie
> www.JamieKrutz.com
>
>
> chuck duffy wrote:
>> Haha I agree with you! I can't believe it!
>>
>> My 2 cents. A strat, a tele and a les with a bigsby trem and locking
>> nuts.
>> Also, a must have is a gibson vintage f hole.
>> After that an SG and a les junior.
>>
>> Other areas we will agree on... USE AN AMP!
>> Chuck
>> "DC" <dc@spammersinhell.com> wrote:
>>> Some good ideas here. But I am in the "buy 2 guitars" camp.
>>>
>>> A good LP and a hardtail strat would be the minimum.
>>>
>>> DC
>>>
>>>
>>> "John" <no@no.com> wrote:
>>>> Any suggestions on a single electric guitar that can do Strat / Les
>>>> Paul
>>> /
>>>> Telecaster sounds or some other guitar that has an amazing array of
>>>> these
>>>> type sounds?
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> On Thu, 14 Jun 2007 20:20:43 -0400, "Don Nafe" <dnafe@magma.ca> wrote:
>=20
>>Enjoy
>>
>> http://youtube.com/watch?v=3D1k08yxu57NA=20
>>
>=20
> Holy crap!!! That was amazing. =20
>=20
> One thought, though - should he really go on and try to make it a
> career, thus possibly sucking all the joy out of singing, or should he
> just continue with his day job and sing because he loves it?
>=20
> That's a tough call. Speaking as one who turned a hobby into a
> business, got burned out, and will probably never do stained glass
> again, it's a risk.
>=20
> pab
http://www.bathopera.co.uk/Past%20Productions/Don%20Carlos/d on_carlos_bio=
graphies.htm
Paul Potts (Don Carlos) is a relative new comer to Grand Opera after an =
apprenticeship in Gilbert and Sullivan in Bristol.. His claim to fame is =
his 1999 appearance on Michael Barrymore's My Kind of Music. This was =
followed by singing for Bath Opera in Turandot as Prince of Persia and =
Herald. He has since performed with The Royal Philharmonic Orchestra and =
spent three months touring Northern Italy as a soloist, training under =
top teachers Mario Melani and Svetlana Sidrova. He has been invited back =
for a concert to be recorded and also for a masterclass with Luciano =
Pavarotti. Future plans include a summer tour with the RPO.=20
If this was recent (and it appears to be) He's not exactly the fresh =
faced amateur that he's hyped to be. I guess behind every Cinderella =
story, there's a G-string that could use a little spin in the Maytag.
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>> On Thu, 14 Jun 2007 20:20:43 =
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<BR>>>Enjoy<BR>>><BR>>> </FONT><A=20
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<BR>> <BR>> One thought, though - should he really go on and try =
to make=20
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or should=20
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it?<BR>>=20
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arlos_biographies.htm</FONT></A><BR><BR><FONT=20
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comer to Grand=20
Opera after an apprenticeship in Gilbert and Sullivan in Bristol.. His =
claim to=20
fame is his 1999 appearance on Michael Barrymore's My Kind of Music. =
This was=20
followed by singing for Bath Opera in Turandot as Prince of Persia and =
Herald.=20
He has since performed with The Royal Philharmonic Orchestra and spent =
three=20
months touring Northern Italy as a soloist, training under top teachers =
Mario=20
Melani and Svetlana Sidrova. He has been invited back for a concert to =
be=20
recorded and also for a masterclass with Luciano Pavarotti. Future plans =
include=20
a summer tour with the RPO. </EM></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><EM></EM></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>If this was recent (and it appears to =
be) He's not=20
exactly the fresh faced amateur that he's hyped to be. I guess behind =
every=20
Cinderella story, there's a G-string that could use a little spin in the =
Maytag.</FONT></DIV>
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------=_NextPart_000_02AC_01C7AECA.0D0840E0--Bill L wrote:
> Jamie, I'm surprised by your praise of the Variax. I found it
> disappointingly dead feeling and it seemed to have a latency in creating
> the sound.
To each their own, but it might have been the particular variax you
played and the way it was set up. I've played some 300 models that were
terrible, sharp frets and bad action. Poor QC at the factory? I've
played others that were decent. My variax plays decently.
Whatever very minor latency might be in my variax at normal tuning
hasn't put me off at all. It's very responsive, feels like a normal guitar.
When I use the transposing feature there is noticeable latency but my
brain has had no trouble adjusting. A little latency isn't a problem per
se - for example I don't have trouble adjusting to the latency when
playing with an amp stack at the back of the stage (although I don't do
that anymore, I've reformed and go for low stage volume/close monitoring
now).
I haven't noticed a "dead feeling." The guitar feels as alive as my
other guitars. I can even get feedback (the good kind).
In short, my variax gets good tone and is amazingly flexible. I also
added a GK3 pickup to it to drive a guitar synth at the same time, and I
use that setup with live multitracking in my solo show to build gigantic
arrangements. Very fun!
But my PRS is my favorite guitar to play, and I take that on gigs where
I don't need to cover acoustic/electric/synth/alt tunings. When I just
need to be the electric guitar player in a band, the PRS is flexible
enough to cover a wide palette of electric guitar tones and it's a
better built guitar. Plus it has 24 frets. Plus I have two of them in
case I break a string. :^)
When the new Roland VG99 ships I'm going to check it out. It would let
me play the PRS and still do guitar modeling. I think the variax
modeling is better than the VG88's but we'll see if Roland has raised
the bar with the new box.
Another option would be to take variax guts and put them into a better
guitar. Like Adrian Belew did with a Parker Fly. OK I WANT that guitar,
(but not in that color). :^)
I've considered transplanting variax guts into a custom body - which
would also let me add a 24 fret neck, but then again, my variax is
pretty decent as it is so there's no rush. If I go that route I'd grab
the guts from a 300. There's no sense gutting my expensive 700. :^)
> Also the instrument was shite and looked like a toy to me,
> but I don't think it was the expensive model. I do really like the
> concept of it - maybe I should give it another shot, but they need to
> make a pretty version. A guitar is like a woman - it should be as pretty
> as possible, don't you think.
I dig a good looking instrument, and I have the coolest looking variax
on the planet (cherry sunburst 700). Although the very best looking
variax is the acoustic model with the natural wood top, I love mine. But
I don't sleep with either of them...much...
My cherryburst PRS looks and plays a notch better. I've never had a
luthier setup the variax for optimal playability though (since it's been
good enough) but that's on my todo list.
> I'm also surprised by the suggestions that tapping a humbucker gives a
> decent Strat sound. I tried that in 1978 and it sucked. i tried it again
> about every 10 years since and it sucked every time. Can it have stopped
> sucking in the new millennia? I doubt it.
Not identical to a strat sound but similar enough to play that spanky role.
Actually I think the PRS does it by combining inner and outer coils from
the two different pickups in various combinations. I had an Ibanez
Roadstar II that did it by splitting the coils on either pickup with any
PU combination available. I could get spanky tones out of both. Not
exactly a strat but no suckage either.
> If I were mostly an R&B and rock player I would do a Strat w/ a
> humbucker in the bridge. That's about the most versatile setup I have
> heard. I actually have a handmade strat with EMGs and a midrange boost
> knob that does a pretty strong lead sound and of course excels at
> shimmery rhythm sounds.
That's a great setup. My Kramer is configured like that (although the
neck PU is a sustainer driver as well). My Steinberger has
hum/single/hum which is also a very versatile setup.
OK, now I guess you can see I swing both ways, a collection of trad
pickup guitars AND a couple of variaxen. I use them all. Clearly I'm
addicted...
Cheers,
-Jamie
www.JamieKrutz.com
> Jamie K wrote:
>>
>> LOL. Get a room, you two!
>>
>> I dig those guitars through a good amp, too.
>>
>> Remember when using an electric guitar and a guitar amp was heresy?
>> They booed Bob Dylan off the stage. USE A REAL GUITAR!! Heh.
>>
>> Flash forward and now that stuff is traditional
>>
>> I bet you would both dig my variax setup if you heard it.
>>
>> And Chuck, I bet you would even like what I do with amp emulations,
>> once you hear some of my custom setups (which stand up to comparison
>> with my tube rig).
>>
>> Cheers,
>> -Jamie
>> www.JamieKrutz.com
>>
>>
>> chuck duffy wrote:
>>> Haha I agree with you! I can't believe it!
>>>
>>> My 2 cents. A strat, a tele and a les with a bigsby trem and locking
>>> nuts.
>>> Also, a must have is a gibso
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quot;buy 2 guitars" camp.
>>>>>
>>>>> A good LP and a hardtail strat would be the minimum.
>>>>>
>>>>> DC
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "John" <no@no.com> wrote:
>>>>>> Any suggestions on a single electric guitar that can do Strat /
>>>>>> Les Paul
>>>>> /
>>>>>> Telecaster sounds or some other guitar that has an amazing array
>>>>>> of these
>>>>>> type sounds?
>>>>Great advice and I already have the Strat Squire (noisy little thing).
Neil wrote:
> "John" <no@no.com> wrote:
>> Any suggestions on a single electric guitar that can do Strat / Les Paul
> /
>> Telecaster sounds or some other guitar that has an amazing array of these
>> type sounds?
>
> Decent-quality guitars are cheap nowadays, you should just buy
> one of each if you're looking for tonal variations. Part of
> what makes each guitar sound like itself is the wood, the neck
> radius (a bend on a maple-fingerboard strat has a different
> quality than a bend on an ebony-fretted gibson LP custom), the
> hardware configurations (bridge, tuning key lineups, etc)
> contribute subtle differences, as do a bazillion other factors
> in minute quantities.
>
> Get an Epiphone LP Standard, a Squire strat & Tele, find the
> best-playing ones you can & have them set-up by someone halfway
> decent, & you'll be a happy guy if those are the three basic
> tonalities you're looking for without breaking the bank.
>
> Or get a Variax.
>
> Neil
>I'll check the Variax again.
Don't you find the split humbucker to be extremely weak and anemic? It
has no fullness.
Jamie K wrote:
> Bill L wrote:
>> Jamie, I'm surprised by your praise of the Variax. I found it
>> disappointingly dead feeling and it seemed to have a latency in
>> creating the sound.
>
> To each their own, but it might have been the particular variax you
> played and the way it was set up. I've played some 300 models that were
> terrible, sharp frets and bad action. Poor QC at the factory? I've
> played others that were decent. My variax plays decently.
>
> Whatever very minor latency might be in my variax at normal tuning
> hasn't put me off at all. It's very responsive, feels like a normal guitar.
>
> When I use the transposing feature there is noticeable latency but my
> brain has had no trouble adjusting. A little latency isn't a problem per
> se - for example I don't have trouble adjusting to the latency when
> playing with an amp stack at the back of the stage (although I don't do
> that anymore, I've reformed and go for low stage volume/close monitoring
> now).
>
> I haven't noticed a "dead feeling." The guitar feels as alive as my
> other guitars. I can even get feedback (the good kind).
>
> In short, my variax gets good tone and is amazingly flexible. I also
> added a GK3 pickup to it to drive a guitar synth at the same time, and I
> use that setup with live multitracking in my solo show to build gigantic
> arrangements. Very fun!
>
> But my PRS is my favorite guitar to play, and I take that on gigs where
> I don't need to cover acoustic/electric/synth/alt tunings. When I just
> need to be the electric guitar player in a band, the PRS is flexible
> enough to cover a wide palette of electric guitar tones and it's a
> better built guitar. Plus it has 24 frets. Plus I have two of them in
> case I break a string. :^)
>
> When the new Roland VG99 ships I'm going to check it out. It would let
> me play the PRS and still do guitar modeling. I think the variax
> modeling is better than the VG88's but we'll see if Roland has raised
> the bar with the new box.
>
> Another option would be to take variax guts and put them into a better
> guitar. Like Adrian Belew did with a Parker Fly. OK I WANT that guitar,
> (but not in that color). :^)
>
> I've considered transplanting variax guts into a custom body - which
> would also let me add a 24 fret neck, but then again, my variax is
> pretty decent as it is so there's no rush. If I go that route I'd grab
> the guts from a 300. There's no sense gutting my expensive 700. :^)
>
>
>> Also the instrument was shite and looked like a toy to me, but I don't
>> think it was the
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er coils from
> the two different pickups in various combinations. I had an Ibanez
> Roadstar II that did it by splitting the coils on either pickup with any
> PU combination available. I could get spanky tones out of both. Not
> exactly a strat but no suckage either.
>
>
>> If I were mostly an R&B and rock player I would do a Strat w/ a
>> humbucker in the bridge. That's about the most versatile setup I have
>> heard. I actually have a handmade strat with EMGs and a midrange boost
>> knob that does a pretty strong lead sound and of course excels at
>> shimmery rhythm sounds.
>
> That's a great setup. My Kramer is configured like that (although the
> neck PU is a sustainer driver as well). My Steinberger has
> hum/single/hum which is also a very versatile setup.
>
> OK, now I guess you can see I swing both ways, a collection of trad
> pickup guitars AND a couple of variaxen. I use them all. Clearly I'm
> addicted...
>
> Cheers,
> -Jamie
> www.JamieKrutz.com
>
>
>
>> Jamie K wrote:
>>>
>>> LOL. Get a room, you two!
>>>
>>> I dig those guitars through a good amp, too.
>>>
>>> Remember when using an electric guitar and a guitar amp was heresy?
>>> They booed Bob Dylan off the stage. USE A REAL GUITAR!! Heh.
>>>
>>> Flash forward and now that stuff is traditional
>>>
>>> I bet you would both dig my variax setup if you heard it.
>>>
>>> And Chuck, I bet you would even like what I do with amp emulations,
>>> once you hear some of my custom setups (which stand up to comparison
>>> with my tube rig).
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> -Jamie
>>> www.JamieKrutz.com
>>>
>>>
>>> chuck duffy wrote:
>>>> Haha I agree with you! I can't believe it!
>>>>
>>>> My 2 cents. A strat, a tele and a les with a bigsby trem and
>>>> locking nuts.
>>>> Also, a must have is a gibson vintage f hole.
>>>> After that an SG and a les junior.
>>>>
>>>> Other areas we will agree on... USE AN AMP!
>>>> Chuck
>>>> "DC" <dc@spammersinhell.com> wrote:
>>>>> Some good ideas here. But I am in the "buy 2 guitars" camp.
>>>>>
>>>>> A good LP and a hardtail strat would be the minimum.
>>>>>
>>>>> DC
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "John" <no@no.com> wrote:
>>>>>> Any suggestions on a single electric guitar that can do Strat /
>>>>>> Les Paul
>>>>> /
>>>>>> Telecaster sounds or some other guitar that has an amazing array
>>>>>> of these
>>>>>> type sounds?
>>>>This is a multi-part message in MIME format.
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I hope this drawing makes sense...
Gantt
"Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>
>Gantt,
>Please post the diagram for your setup. That sounds great.
>Tom
>
> "Gantt Kushner" <ganttmann@comcast.net> wrote in message =
>news:4671ac3c$1@linux...
>
> I have a circuit I designed that lets a 2 humbucker guitar do a lot of
=
>tricks
> w/ a minimum of switching. I installed it on my old PRS Custom 24 in
=
>the
> place of the rotary switch (which I used for many years but have grown
=
>to
> hate!). It uses a 4-pole/double throw mini toggle and a standard 3 =
>position
> switch. With the mini switch in the "normal" position you get a =
>standard
> Les Paul type 2 humbucking pu guitar. Flip the mini switch and the =
>bridge
> position is the two outside coils (closest to the bridge and farthest)
=
>in
> series; neck position is the two inside coils in parallel (PRS calls
=
>this
> "Parallel Strat"), center position is the series outsides + parallel
=
>insides
> in parallel. 6 really useful sounds. The series outside coil sound =
>is my
> all time favorite. Sounds like a 10 foor tall Telecaster on steroids.
=
> If
> you're interested I'll scan my drawing and post it. You need two =
>humbuckers
> w/ all the wires available and a 4 pole double throw mini switch to do
=
>it...
> and, of course, a 2 humbucker guitar that you love to play.
>
> Gantt
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