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Tue, 08 May 2007 09:12  |
Chris Lang
Messages: 91
Registered: March 2007
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loskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>By the way, In 1995 I purchased a brand new Firebird. About a month
>>after
>>>>>>getting the car I got gas at a Citgo station. with in minutes of pulling
>>>>>>out, the engine ceased up. Towed it in to a dealer and found out I
>had
>>>>>bad
>>>>>>gas. I had the state of Michigan come out and test the gas. 71% was
>>>water,
>>>>>>about 8% was solid garbage, and the rest was gas. It took out all
of
>>>the
>>>>>>fuel injectors and the fuel pump. It did about $1700.00 in damage.
>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Citgo refused to take any responsibility for their product, and refused
>>>>>>to pay for the damage. They immediately told me that they were not
>responsible
>>>>>>for their product after it left their refinery. Apparently that was
>>their
>>>>>>standard response for anybody that called them about bad gas. It took
>>>>about
>>>>>>6 months to get it straitened out. The state of Michigan gave them
>a
>>>choice,
>>>>>>pay for the damages or pay a $25,000.00 fine. The arab gas station
>owner
>>>>>>had to pay for the damage.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>My neighbor later told me that when that gas station would start running
>>>>>>out of gas he would see them put the garden hose down in to their tanks.
>>>>>> So I guess the owner deserved what he got. There were also many reports
>>>>>>on the news of people getting bad gas from Citgo stations all over
town.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Needless to say, I never buy gas at Citgo. What a PITA! If you want
>>>to
>>>>>>buy your gas from them that's up to you.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>When possible I will avoid buying Communist made products. And yes
>I
>>>am
>>>>>>aware of where some of my favorite products are made. I don't like
>it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>"LaMont" <jjdpro@ameritech.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Hugo Chavez is a hero. A man willing to sand up for his counry and
>not
>>>>>let
>>>>>>>a another country (USA) tell him how to run thier commodity.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>This is nothing more than tipical US spin machine out to sway puplic
>>>opinion
>>>>>>>about those leaders that don't drink the US Kool-Aid.. They (Venezuelans)
>>>>>>>don't need our aid. They have their own precious commodity.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Wake up people, are we to believe every word coming from our Goverment??
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Thanks God for Citgo..
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>This was a email I received.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Diane Sawyer on ABC news interviewed the Venezuelan leader Chavez
>just
>>>>>>last
>>>>>>>>week -- March 2007 He is so dangerous, and you can tell he is thrilled
>>>>>>to
>>>>>>>>be selling oil toAmerica and having a foot on the throat of this
country.
>>>>>>>>He is something else. If you did not hear the interview, the following
>>>>>>was
>>>>>>>>discussed and it is true. They have all this money coming in and
the
>>>>majority
>>>>>>>>of his own people are living in poverty and he is so rich. He is
best
>>>>>of
>>>>>>>>friends with Castro and Russian leaders. He told Diane Sawyer that
>>he
>>>>>was
>>>>>>>>friends with all the world leaders, but President Bush is as dumb
>as
>>>>a
>>>>>>'donkey'.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>CITGO CHANGING NAME...this is serious Americans...make sure you read
>>>>..
>>>>>>>>NEWS FLASH: Chavez is NOW getting a Russian Weapons Factory built
>by
>>>>Putin.
>>>>>>>>The RUSSIANS are building an AK-47 Kalashnikov Assault Rifle factory
>>>>in
>>>>>>>Venezuela,
>>>>>>>>to give armament support to Communist Rebel groups throughout the
>Americas.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Chavez NOW has IRANIANS operating his oil refineries in Venezuela
>for
>>>>>him.
>>>>>>>>It is likely only a matter of time, if not already, before Chavez
>has
>>>>>Iranian
>>>>>>>>built LONG RANGE missiles, with a variety of warhead types aimed
at:
>>>>Guess
>>>>>>>>Who?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>CITGO is NOW in the process of Changing Its Name to PETRO EXPRESS
>due
>>>>>to
>>>>>>>>the loss of gasoline sales in the USA due to the recent publicity
>of
>>>>ownership
>>>>>>>>by Chavez of Venezuela.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Every dollar you spend with CITGO or PETRO EXPRESS gasoline will
be
>>>used
>>>>>>>>against you, your basic human rights, and your freedoms. He will
start
>>>>>>wars
>>>>>>>>here in the Americas that will probably be the death of millions
of
>>>free
>>>>>>>>people.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>THIS IS VERY IMPORTANT because Chavez is starting to feel the loss
>>of
>>>>>revenue
>>>>>>>>from his holdings. HE OWNS CITGO. This is a very important move that
>>>>everyone
>>>>>>>>should be aware of.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>ANNOUNCED JUST RECENTLY, CITGO, BEING AWARE THAT SALES ARE DOWN DUE
>>>TO
>>>>>>U.S.
>>>>>>>>CUSTOMERS NOT WANTING TO BUY FROM "CITGO-CHAVEZ", HAVE STARTED TO
>CHANGE
>>>>>>>>THE NAME OF SOME OF THEIR STORES TO: "PETRO EXPRESS"
>>>>>>>>DO NOT BUY FROM "PETRO EXPRESS" EITHER!!! "PETRO EXPRESS" IS ALSO
>100%
>>>>>>OWNED
>>>>>>>>BY "CHAVEZ."
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>KEEP THIS MEMO GOING SO THAT EVERYONE KNOWS WHAT IS HAPPENING.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>BOYCOTT "CITGO" AND "PETRO EXPRESS".............MAKE SURE THIS IS
>PASSED
>>>>>>>>ON TO EVERYONE in YOUR E-MAIL LIST IN THE UNITED STATES AND OUTSIDE
>>>OF
>>>>>>AMERICA.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>LaMont wrote:
> DC . The line should be drawn by first getting rid of this President. Then
> holding him up for charges of treason..
>
> You can say fire. We have a president that calls everyone who does agree
> with him a terroist and anti-american. And it's seems that people like you
> believe in his bull-shit.
>
And it appears the rampant over dramatization and over stating of each
side continues...
JeffDC, i know his hard for you to believe, but there are many in this country
who are real americans and love this country that will no longer just Take
what spews out the war mongering propaganda machine call ed the Bush administration..
For that fact, it could be the Clinton administration.
Look.. Iraq has taught us that, trying to impose our will aka capitalism,
does not work. Not in the y2k
nor did it work in 70s. Counntries like Iraq like the Strong Man concept..
Now, back to Chavez. He is a hereo to millions of people. The only news you
get about chavez is on the 6:00 oclock news. Do some real research and you'll
be surprise about what you'd find out about this man.
Let's face it, you gotta have pretty big balls to take on the US ..
"DC" <dc@spammersinhell.com> wrote:
>
>LaMont, I am going to give you the benefit of the doubt here
>and assume good motives on your part.
>
>What concerns me is that you use the admission that Chavez
>is a dictator as simply another opportunity to blast Bush.
>
>This does NOT make your case against Bush stronger, it
>makes it weaker because you are not willing to stand against
>Chavez. It makes you seem like a dishonest lefty blowhard
>who hates his country so much that he will praise anyone
>who criticizes it, no matter how wretched they are.
>
>I prefer to think that is not the case.
>
>If it is, then:
>What makes you different from the anti-communist idiots
>who put us on the side of the mujahadeen against the
>russians in the Russian war in Afghanistan?
>
>Is the enemy of your enemy really your friend?
>
>
>Back in the 1970's after we left Vietnam, there was a
>humanitarian disaster as the victorious north took revenge
>on those who had opposed them in the south. There were
>thousands of "boat people" doing anything they could to
>escape torture and death and many died. Millions died in
>Cambodia as the new dictators pursued ideological purity.
>
>So, Joan Baez spoke out against the persecution of these
>"boat people" by the new communist leaders. She called
>fo peace and forgiveness in the new Vietnam.
>
>Guess what? She was blasted by Jane Fonda. When asked why,
>Jane responded that it was unacceptable to criticize a
>communist government! We on the left just don't DO that,
>don't you see?
>
>My point is that you have to be either Jane or Joan. You do
>NOT have to be a conservative to tell the truth about Chavez,
>and telling the truth about Chavez does not mean you have to
>like Bush.
>
>It simply means you have to be honest.
>
>
>
>DC
>
>
>
>
>"LaMont" <jjppro@ameritech.net> wrote:
>>
>>So is Bush...
>>
>>
>>"DC" <dc@spammersinhell.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=D8PDFHC00&show_a rticle=1bu
>>>
>>>He's a dictator...
>>
>You want to say it's racism, it's not, but since we are on the subject...
Since people are free to say what they want, is Whity the blue eyed devil
free to say the N word? Is that Ok? Or are there some lines you shouldn't
cross? Are you just pissed or can you actually see my point? I believe
there some things you just don't say!
By the way, the immigration point I was trying to make is, the middle class
is being killed off. It's not a race thing. The things you have work so
hard for will be given away. There won't be a middle class for you and I
to be part of! This could happen.
"LaMont" <jjdpro@ameritech.net> wrote:
>
>Please.. I'm not a communist, but this is the land of free. Free to workship
>any religion you see fit. Free to believe want you want. Free to say what
>you want.
>
>"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>Yeah, like pissing on a crucifix and calling it freedom of speech. But
>when
>>it comes to a nativity seen or the ten commandments the greasy schmucks
>in
>>the ACLU are ready to sue. Where is the freedom of speech then?
>>
>>Yes it's anti American to say communism is Ok! And it disrespects those
>>who fought and died for your freedoms.
>>
>>"Gene Lennon" <glennon@NOSPmyrealbox.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>"DC" <dc@spammersinhell.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>If we have none, and you can say anything you wish, then does being
>>>>an american mean anything?
>>>>
>>>>DC
>>>
>>>One thing it should always mean is that you can say what you think. Even
>>>if it is extremely critical of US policies. This is the most basic principle
>>>that this country was founded on.
>>>Try to remember what it is that you are so bent on defending. Basic American
>>>ideals. Like freedom of speech!
>>>Gene
>>>
>>
>Hey, it's working here under xp just fine. Latencies didn't change under 4.6,
however, the Helios plug, as well as the Neve plugs (the more rokbust versions)
and the Precesion plugs all have latencies that are more than the "standard"
amount (which is still the same) for the 1176, LA2A, Fairchild, etc. They
are also different from plug to plug. A couple of the have the same latency.
I'm not in front of my rig right now, and I don't know them off the top of
my head. But the 4.6 works, and the Helios sounds great. I can't prove this,
but 4.6 seem more stable that the previous version (under Paris).
Rod
Rod
"cujo" <chris@applemanstudio.com> wrote:
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>Bump?
>
>
>
>"Cujo" <chris@applemanstudio.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>Yes, can anyone tell me if it is working in XP?
>>I have a track that is crying for that sound, but I don't want to chance
>>if screwing up my rig.
>>DO latency #'s change with 4.6? if so, anyone know the new #;s in paris?
>>THANKS.
>>
>>
>>
>>"Rod Lincoln" <rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>Tom. I'd be real interested in what you find out. I'm tempted to buy it
>>before
>>>the 31st (tomorrow) if it works, but if there's something that breaks
it
>>>in Paris, the...NOT.
>>>Anyone else been able to use this in Paris on a PC???
>>>Rod
>>>"Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>I bought it and it isn't working for me. It outputs what sounds like
>=
>>>>just the
>>>>latent signal mixed in with the dry. No eq is possible either.?. I
=
>>>>wrapped
>>>>it with FxPansion 3.3 but it won't play nice yet on my PC. I emailed
>>>>UA and hope to find a cure.
>>>>
>>>>Tom
>>>> "Gantt Kushner" <ganttmann@comcast.net> wrote in message =
>>>>news:460ac80b$1@linux...
>>>>
>>>> I just started the 14 day demo. It's kind of a strange EQ. I'm =
>>>>curious about
>>>> others' thoughts on it. I just bought the Multiband Limiter w/ my
=
>>>>discount.
>>>> It seems like it'll be a powerful tool once I figure out how to work
>>>=
>>>>it!
>>>>
>>>> Gantt
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>I choose Polesoft Lockspam to fight spam, and you?
>>>>http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html
>>>>
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>>>><HTML><HEAD>
>>>><META http-equiv=3DContent-Type content=3D"text/html; =
>>>>charset=3Diso-8859-1">
>>>><META content=3D"MSHTML 6.00.2800.1400" name=3DGENERATOR>
>>>><STYLE></STYLE>
>>>></HEAD>
>>>><BODY bgColor=3D#ffffff>
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>=
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>>>>BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
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>>>>wrote in=20
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>>>> href=3D"news:460ac80b$1@linux">news:460ac80b$1@linux</A>...</DIV><BR>I
>>>=
>>>>just=20
>>>> started the 14 day demo. It's kind of a strange EQ. I'm =
>>>>curious=20
>>>> about<BR>others' thoughts on it. I just bought the Multiband =
>>>>Limiter w/=20
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>>>>figure out=20
>>>> how to work it!<BR><BR>Gantt</BLOCKQUOTE>
>>>><DIV><FONT size=3D2><BR><BR>I choose Polesoft Lockspam to fight spam,
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>>>>.html</A> </FONT></DIV></BODY></HTML>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>"LaMont" <jjdpro@ameritech.net> wrote:
>
>DC, i know his hard for you to believe, but there are many in this country
>who are real americans and love this country that will no longer just Take
>what spews out the war mongering propaganda machine call ed the Bush administration..
>For that fact, it could be the Clinton administration.
>
>Look.. Iraq has taught us that, trying to impose our will aka capitalism,
>does not work. Not in the y2k
>nor did it work in 70s. Counntries like Iraq like the Strong Man concept..
>
>
>Now, back to Chavez. He is a hereo to millions of people. The only news
you
>get about chavez is on the 6:00 oclock news. Do some real research and you'll
>be surprise about what you'd find out about this man.
>Let's face it, you gotta have pretty big balls to take on the US ..
Hey remember that if south america falls to communism and you get drafted.
>"DC" <dc@spammersinhell.com> wrote:
>>
>>LaMont, I am going to give you the benefit of the doubt here
>>and assume good motives on your part.
>>
>>What concerns me is that you use the admission that Chavez
>>is a dictator as simply another opportunity to blast Bush.
>>
>>This does NOT make your case against Bush stronger, it
>>makes it weaker because you are not willing to stand against
>>Chavez. It makes you seem like a dishonest lefty blowhard
>>who hates his country so much that he will praise anyone
>>who criticizes it, no matter how wretched they are.
>>
>>I prefer to think that is not the case.
>>
>>If it is, then:
>>What makes you different from the anti-communist idiots
>>who put us on the side of the mujahadeen against the
>>russians in the Russian war in Afghanistan?
>>
>>Is the enemy of your enemy really your friend?
>>
>>
>>Back in the 1970's after we left Vietnam, there was a
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| Re: Saw this on the way to work- the warm-up tour has begun! [message #84192 is a reply to message #84167] |
Tue, 08 May 2007 18:14  |
Neil
Messages: 1645
Registered: April 2006
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u're not. I take it as a compliment..
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>"LaMont" <jjdpro@ameritech.net> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>James, we agree but disagree.. I believe that Health Care should be
free
>>>>to
>>>>>all Americans.. AND, if you pay into SS, you should some kind of pay-off.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>There is nothing for free! Health care is not free. Somebody has to
pay
>>>>for it. That would mean much higher taxes, so be prepared to pay for
>it.
>>>> The tax the rich lie is designed for the suckers. The middle class
ALWAYS
>>>>end up with the bill!!!
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>However, it's afact that when people go out to Vegas to invest their
>money,
>>>>>the outcome is usuallly bad. The average american does not no how to
>invest
>>>>>in the market. That would be like wall street preying on the weak and
>>innocent.
>>>>>basically robing them (us)..
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Oh yeah, we're dumb, we can be trusted to invest. Just keep buying that
>>>>liberal line! I'm talking about choice, but you don't get it. So hold
>>>hard
>>>>to you party lines.
>>>>
>>>>Go research what is going on in Taxes where they opted out of SS, and
>see
>>>>what they are getting on there returns.
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>Also, the Canadian medial system was poor(second rate) before they went
>>>>national.
>>>>>By going national, only did it polarize what was already known..
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>The Canadian system doesn't work! I've explained it.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>LaMont, your thinking is way off! You can't blame everything on Bush.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>My Canadian friends have to come over here because the waiting list
>for
>>>>>things
>>>>>>like surgery or even test results are so long. It doesn't work there,
>>>>and
>>>>>>it wont work here, if our government runs it. Our government mismanages
>>>>>>everything!!!!!!!! Yes there should be some kind of low cost or free
>>>healthcare.
>>>>>> It should only be for American citizens!
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Social Security is a joke! The idiots in government keep robbing it
>>to
>>>>>pay
>>>>>>for their pork programs. The first law should be that they can't touch
>>>>>it
>>>>>>because they never pay it back and it's our money! Second should be
>>that
>>>>>>the people have a choice in how it's invested, it's our money!!! They
>>>>should
>>>>>>have split programs where you can have it invested in different accounts
>>>>>>so that it's diversified.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>The mentality that the government should take care of you is a bad
one.
>>>>>
>>>>>>The free ride in this country is going to be over soon!!!!!!!!
>>>>>>
>>>>>>"LaMont" <jjdpro@ameritech.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>You got it..
>>>>>>>Question; Do you think every american wants capitalism? or would they
>>>>prefer
>>>>>>>free health care and social security???
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>So when they start killing and oppressing people as communist always
>>>>do,
>>>>>>>will
>>>>>>>>that go a long with your Christen beliefs? I don't see how the two
>>>fit.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Just because Chavez is a communist and wants a communist government
>>>doesn't
>>>>>>>>mean that the people want it. I think they are proving that by their
>>>>>protesting.
>>>>>>>> Oh yeah, I forgot, that's just the dictator Bush's CIA at work,
>not
>>>>>the
>>>>>>>>real people of Venezuela.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>"LaMont" <jjppro@ameritech.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>I thought you were a Christian?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>I am.. God's order of Government is a Theocracy and of a Democracy.
>>>>One
>>>>>>>>ruler
>>>>>>>>>system.. Not baiting..
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>USA should be dictating policy over another country. If they want
>>to
>>>>>be
>>>>>>>>comunist
>>>>>>>>>let them. That's my belife. That does not manke me anyless american..
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>What's wrong wit Communism? I thought you were a Christian? Well
>>>>anyways,
>>>>>>>>>>try freedom!!! When you rule your people with military force and
>>>take
>>>>>>>>their
>>>>>>>>>>freedoms away It's not a good thing. They will kill anybody that
>>>does
>>>>>>>>not
>>>>>>>>>>want to go along. He will stay rich while the people live in poverty,
>>>>>>>>that's
>>>>>>>>>>the Communist way. He is just another communist dictator. He
want's
>>>>>>>to
>>>>>>>>>>arm Communist rebels all over south america. That's not good for
>>>anybody,
>>>>>>>>>>especially America. That will cause conflicts that a lot of people
>>>>>will
>>>>>>>>>>die in, possibly americans. The USA will not just stand by and
>watch
>>>>>>>south
>>>>>>>>>>america fall to communism.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>LaMont, I guess you are showing your true anti American colors.
>
>>Or
>>>>>are
>>>>>>>>>you
>>>>>>>>>>just bating? Please clarify.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>"LaMont" <jjdpro@ameritech.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>same with tme. I had a 88 Izuzu I mark and filled it with some
>citgo
>>>>>>>gas/water
>>>>>>>>>>>and it killed my catalytic converter..
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>It took a long time for me to buy Citgo gas . But, just because
>>a
>>>>country
>>>>>>>>>>>is communist, does that mean they are evil??
>>>>>>>>>>>Come on man. Take off the USA blinders..
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>By the way, In 1995 I purchased a brand new Firebird. About
a
>>month
>>>>>>>>after
>>>>>>>>>>>>getting the car I got gas at a Citgo station. with in minutes
>>of
>>>>>pulling
>>>>>>>>>>>>out, the engine ceased up. Towed it in to a dealer and found
>out
>>>>>I
>>>>>>>had
>>>>>>>>>>>bad
>>>>>>>>>>>>gas. I had the state of Michigan come out and test the gas.
>71%
>>>>>was
>>>>>>>>>water,
>>>>>>>>>>>>about 8% was solid garbage, and the rest was gas. It took out
>>all
>>>>>>of
>>>>>>>>>the
>>>>>>>>>>>>fuel injectors and the fuel pump. It did about $1700.00 in damage.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Citgo refused to take any responsibility for their product,
and
>>>>refused
>>>>>>>>>>>>to pay for the damage. They immediately told me that they were
>>>not
>>>>>>>responsible
>>>>>>>>>>>>for their product after it left their refinery. Apparently that
>>>>was
>>>>>>>>their
>>>>>>>>>>>>standard response for anybody that called them about bad gas.
>
>>It
>>>>>took
>>>>>>>>>>about
>>>>>>>>>>>>6 months to get it straitened out. The state of Michigan gave
>>them
>>>>>>>a
>>>>>>>>>choice,
>>>>>>>>>>>>pay for the damages or pay a $25,000.00 fine. The arab gas station
>>>>>>>owner
>>>>>>>>>>>>had to pay for the damage.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>My neighbor later told me that when that gas station would start
>>>>running
>>>>>>>>>>>>out of gas he would see them put the garden hose down in to their
>>>>>tanks.
>>>>>>>>>>>> So I guess the owner deserved what he got. There were also
many
>>>>>reports
>>>>>>>>>>>>on the news of people getting bad gas from Citgo stations all
>over
>>>>>>town.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>Needless to say, I never buy gas at Citgo. What a PITA! If
you
>>>>want
>>>>>>>>>to
>>>>>>>>>>>>buy your gas from them that's up to you.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>When possible I will avoid buying Communist made products. And
>>>yes
>>>>>>>I
>>>>>>>>>am
>>>>>>>>>>>>aware of where some of my favorite products are made. I don't
>>like
>>>>>>>it.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>"LaMont" <jjdpro@ameritech.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>Hugo Chavez is a hero. A man willing to sand up for his counry
>>>and
>>>>>>>not
>>>>>>>>>>>let
>>>>>>>>>>>>>a another country (USA) tell him how to run thier commodity.
>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>This is nothing more than tipical US spin machine out to sway
>>puplic
>>>>>>>>>opinion
>>>>>>>>>>>>>about those leaders that don't drink the US Kool-Aid.. They
(Venezuelans)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>don't need our aid. They have their own precious commodity.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>Wake up people, are we to believe every word coming from our
>Goverment??
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>Thanks God for Citgo..
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>This was a email I received.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Diane Sawyer on ABC news interviewed the Venezuelan leader
Chavez
>>>>>>>just
>>>>>>>>>>>>last
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>week -- March 2007 He is so dangerous, and you can tell he
is
>>>thrilled
>>>>>>>>>>>>to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>be selling oil toAmerica and having a foot on the throat of
>this
>>>>>>country.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>He is something else. If you did not hear the interview, the
>>following
>>>>>>>>>>>>was
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>discussed and it is true. They have all this money coming in
>>and
>>>>>>the
>>>>>>>>>>majority
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>of his own people are living in poverty and he is so rich.
He
>>>is
>>>>>>best
>>>>>>>>>>>of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>friends with Castro and Russian leaders. He told Diane Sawyer
>>>that
>>>>>>>>he
>>>>>>>>>>>was
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>friends with all the world leaders, but President Bush is as
>>dumb
>>>>>>>as
>>>>>>>>>>a
>>>>>>>>>>>>'donkey'.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>CITGO CHANGING NAME...this is serious Americans...make sure
>you
>>>>>read
>>>>>>>>>>..
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>NEWS FLASH: Chavez is NOW getting a Russian Weapons Factory
>built
>>>>>>>by
>>>>>>>>>>Putin.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>The RUSSIANS are building an AK-47 Kalashnikov Assault Rifle
>>factory
>>>>>>>>>>in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>Venezuela,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>to give armament support to Communist Rebel groups throughout
>>>the
>>>>>>>Americas.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Chavez NOW has IRANIANS operating his oil refineries in Venezuela
>>>>>>>for
>>>>>>>>>>>him.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>It is likely only a matter of time, if not already, before
Chavez
>>>>>>>has
>>>>>>>>>>>Iranian
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>built LONG RANGE missiles, with a variety of warhead types
aimed
>>>>>>at:
>>>>>>>>>>Guess
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Who?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>CITGO is NOW in the process of Changing Its Name to PETRO EXPRESS
>>>>>>>due
>>>>>>>>>>>to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>the loss of gasoline sales in the USA due to the recent publicity
>>>>>>>of
>>>>>>>>>>ownership
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>by Chavez of Venezuela.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Every dollar you spend with CITGO or PETRO EXPRESS gasoline
>will
>>>>>>be
>>>>>>>>>used
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>against you, your basic human rights, and your freedoms. He
>will
>>>>>>start
>>>>>>>>>>>>wars
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>here in the Americas that will probably be the death of millions
>>>>>>of
>>>>>>>>>free
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>people.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>THIS IS VERY IMPORTANT because Chavez is starting to feel the
>>>loss
>>>>>>>>of
>>>>>>>>>>>revenue
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>from his holdings. HE OWNS CITGO. This is a very important
move
>>>>>that
>>>>>>>>>>everyone
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>should be aware of.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>ANNOUNCED JUST RECENTLY, CITGO, BEING AWARE THAT SALES ARE
DOWN
>>>>>DUE
>>>>>>>>>TO
>>>>>>>>>>>>U.S.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>CUSTOMERS NOT WANTING TO BUY FROM "CITGO-CHAVEZ", HAVE STARTED
>>>>TO
>>>>>>>CHANGE
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>THE NAME OF SOME OF THEIR STORES TO: "PETRO EXPRESS"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>DO NOT BUY FROM "PETRO EXPRESS" EITHER!!! "PETRO EXPRESS" IS
>>ALSO
>>>>>>>100%
>>>>>>>>>>>>OWNED
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>BY "CHAVEZ."
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>KEEP THIS MEMO GOING SO THAT EVERYONE KNOWS WHAT IS HAPPENING.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>BOYCOTT "CITGO" AND "PETRO EXPRESS".............MAKE SURE THIS
>>>>IS
>>>>>>>PASSED
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>ON TO EVERYONE in YOUR E-MAIL LIST IN THE UNITED STATES AND
>OUTSIDE
>>>>>>>>>OF
>>>>>>>>>>>>AMERICA.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>Read My Lips!!!!
"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>In so many words.
>
>"LaMont" <jjdpro@ameritech.net> wrote:
>>
>>I never said our Gov is shit, but rather those running it 'now" is full
>of
>>shit..
>>
>>"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>What ever LaMont. Your the one that said enough, so here we go again.
>
>>When
>>>you say our government is shit and communism is Ok, your way off.
>>>
>>>Your the one that started telling people that they are stupid and brainwashed.
>>> I'm just saying that I think your the one that is brainwashed by the
liberal
>>>media.
>>>
>>>Go read up on what is going on in Venezuela, the people are not happy
that
>>>they are being oppressed by a communist dictator. People are being shot
>>>down there.
>>>
>>>Communism flourishing in our hemisphere is a threat to our national security.
>>> I'm the one that is saying that, not the CIA!
>>>
>>>
>>>"LaMont" <jjdpro@ameritech.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>James.. yes it's not free. But, seeing how much this country waste on
>stupid
>>>>things that we'll never see..and we're talking Billions my friend, health
>>>>care for all is fair shake.
>>>>
>>>>Personally, I don't mind paying for someone who is less fortunate to
live
>>>>instead of dying.
>>>>
>>>>But, thats just me.
>>>>
>>>>On a personal note. You can call me libral all you like, who cares??
Those
>>>>are my views. I have some libral views and some very conservative ones
>>as
>>>>well..But, please don't think that you are insulting me with calling
me
>>>a
>>>>liberal.. You're not. I take it as a compliment..
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>"LaMont" <jjdpro@ameritech.net> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>James, we agree but disagree.. I believe that Health Care should be
>free
>>>>>to
>>>>>>all Americans.. AND, if you pay into SS, you should some kind of pay-off.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>There is nothing for free! Health care is not free. Somebody has to
>pay
>>>>>for it. That would mean much higher taxes, so be prepared to pay for
>>it.
>>>>> The tax the rich lie is designed for the suckers. The middle class
>ALWAYS
>>>>>end up with the bill!!!
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>However, it's afact that when people go out to Vegas to invest their
>>money,
>>>>>>the outcome is usuallly bad. The average american does not no how to
>>invest
>>>>>>in the market. That would be like wall street preying on the weak and
>>>innocent.
>>>>>>basically robing them (us)..
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>Oh yeah, we're dumb, we can be trusted to invest. Just keep buying
that
>>>>>liberal line! I'm talking about choice, but you don't get it. So hold
>>>>hard
>>>>>to you party lines.
>>>>>
>>>>>Go research what is going on in Taxes where they opted out of SS, and
>>see
>>>>>what they are getting on there returns.
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Also, the Canadian medial system was poor(second rate) before they
went
>>>>>national.
>>>>>>By going national, only did it polarize what was already known..
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>The Canadian system doesn't work! I've explained it.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>LaMont, your thinking is way off! You can't blame everything on Bush.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>My Canadian friends have to come over here because the waiting list
>>for
>>>>>>things
>>>>>>>like surgery or even test results are so long. It doesn't work there,
>>>>>and
>>>>>>>it wont work here, if our government runs it. Our government mismanages
>>>>>>>everything!!!!!!!! Yes there should be some kind of low cost or free
>>>>healthcare.
>>>>>>> It should only be for American citizens!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Social Security is a joke! The idiots in government keep robbing
it
>>>to
>>>>>>pay
>>>>>>>for their pork programs. The first law should be that they can't
touch
>>>>>>it
>>>>>>>because they never pay it back and it's our money! Second should
be
>>>that
>>>>>>>the people have a choice in how it's invested, it's our money!!!
They
>>>>>should
>>>>>>>have split programs where you can have it invested in different accounts
>>>>>>>so that it's diversified.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>The mentality that the government should take care of you is a bad
>one.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>The free ride in this country is going to be over soon!!!!!!!!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>"LaMont" <jjdpro@ameritech.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>You got it..
>>>>>>>>Question; Do you think every american wants capitalism? or would
they
>>>>>prefer
>>>>>>>>free health care and social security???
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>So when they start killing and oppressing people as communist always
>>>>>do,
>>>>>>>>will
>>>>>>>>>that go a long with your Christen beliefs? I don't see how the
two
>>>>fit.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Just because Chavez is a communist and wants a communist government
>>>>doesn't
>>>>>>>>>mean that the people want it. I think they are proving that by
their
>>>>>>protesting.
>>>>>>>>> Oh yeah, I forgot, that's just the dictator Bush's CIA at work,
>>not
>>>>>>the
>>>>>>>>>real people of Venezuela.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>"LaMont" <jjppro@ameritech.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>I thought you were a Christian?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>I am.. God's order of Government is a Theocracy and of a Democracy.
>>>>>One
>>>>>>>>>ruler
>>>>>>>>>>system.. Not baiting..
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>USA should be dictating policy over another country. If they want
>>>to
>>>>>>be
>>>>>>>>>comunist
>>>>>>>>>>let them. That's my b
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| Re: Saw this on the way to work- the warm-up tour has begun! [message #84193 is a reply to message #84192] |
Tue, 08 May 2007 18:15 |
Neil
Messages: 1645
Registered: April 2006
|
Senior Member |
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elife. That does not manke me anyless american..
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>What's wrong wit Communism? I thought you were a Christian?
Well
>>>>>anyways,
>>>>>>>>>>>try freedom!!! When you rule your people with military force
and
>>>>take
>>>>>>>>>their
>>>>>>>>>>>freedoms away It's not a good thing. They will kill anybody that
>>>>does
>>>>>>>>>not
>>>>>>>>>>>want to go along. He will stay rich while the people live in
poverty,
>>>>>>>>>that's
>>>>>>>>>>>the Communist way. He is just another communist dictator. He
>want's
>>>>>>>>to
>>>>>>>>>>>arm Communist rebels all over south america. That's not good
for
>>>>anybody,
>>>>>>>>>>>especially America. That will cause conflicts that a lot of people
>>>>>>will
>>>>>>>>>>>die in, possibly americans. The USA will not just stand by and
>>watch
>>>>>>>>south
>>>>>>>>>>>america fall to communism.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>LaMont, I guess you are showing your true anti American colors.
>>
>>>Or
>>>>>>are
>>>>>>>>>>you
>>>>>>>>>>>just bating? Please clarify.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>"LaMont" <jjdpro@ameritech.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>same with tme. I had a 88 Izuzu I mark and filled it with some
>>citgo
>>>>>>>>gas/water
>>>>>>>>>>>>and it killed my catalytic converter..
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>It took a long time for me to buy Citgo gas . But, just because
>>>a
>>>>>country
>>>>>>>>>>>>is communist, does that mean they are evil??
>>>>>>>>>>>>Come on man. Take off the USA blinders..
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>By the way, In 1995 I purchased a brand new Firebird. About
>a
>>>month
>>>>>>>>>after
>>>>>>>>>>>>>getting the car I got gas at a Citgo station. with in minutes
>>>of
>>>>>>pulling
>>>>>>>>>>>>>out, the engine ceased up. Towed it in to a dealer and found
>>out
>>>>>>I
>>>>>>>>had
>>>>>>>>>>>>bad
>>>>>>>>>>>>>gas. I had the state of Michigan come out and test the gas.
>
>>71%
>>>>>>was
>>>>>>>>>>water,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>about 8% was solid garbage, and the rest was gas. It took out
>>>all
>>>>>>>of
>>>>>>>>>>the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>fuel injectors and the fuel pump. It did about $1700.00 in
damage.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Citgo refused to take any responsibility for their product,
>and
>>>>>refused
>>>>>>>>>>>>>to pay for the damage. They immediately told me that they were
>>>>not
>>>>>>>>responsible
>>>>>>>>>>>>>for their product after it left their refinery. Apparently
that
>>>>>was
>>>>>>>>>their
>>>>>>>>>>>>>standard response for anybody that called them about bad gas.
>>
>>>It
>>>>>>took
>>>>>>>>>>>about
>>>>>>>>>>>>>6 months to get it straitened out. The state of Michigan gave
>>>them
>>>>>>>>a
>>>>>>>>>>choice,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>pay for the damages or pay a $25,000.00 fine. The arab gas
station
>>>>>>>>owner
>>>>>>>>>>>>>had to pay for the damage.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>My neighbor later told me that when that gas station would start
>>>>>running
>>>>>>>>>>>>>out of gas he would see them put the garden hose down in to
their
>>>>>>tanks.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> So I guess the owner deserved what he got. There were also
>many
>>>>>>reports
>>>>>>>>>>>>>on the news of people getting bad gas from Citgo stations all
>>over
>>>>>>>town.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>Needless to say, I never buy gas at Citgo. What a PITA! If
>you
>>>>>want
>>>>>>>>>>to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>buy your gas from them that's up to you.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>When possible I will avoid buying Communist made products.
And
>>>>yes
>>>>>>>>I
>>>>>>>>>>am
>>>>>>>>>>>>>aware of where some of my favorite products are made. I don't
>>>like
>>>>>>>>it.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>"LaMont" <jjdpro@ameritech.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Hugo Chavez is a hero. A man willing to sand up for his counry
>>>>and
>>>>>>>>not
>>>>>>>>>>>>let
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>a another country (USA) tell him how to run thier commodity.
>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>This is nothing more than tipical US spin machine out to sway
>>>puplic
>>>>>>>>>>opinion
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>about those leaders that don't drink the US Kool-Aid.. They
>(Venezuelans)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>don't need our aid. They have their own precious commodity.
>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Wake up people, are we to believe every word coming from our
>>Goverment??
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Thanks God for Citgo..
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>This was a email I received.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Diane Sawyer on ABC news interviewed the Venezuelan leader
>Chavez
>>>>>>>>just
>>>>>>>>>>>>>last
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>week -- March 2007 He is so dangerous, and you can tell he
>is
>>>>thrilled
>>>>>>>>>>>>>to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>be selling oil toAmerica and having a foot on the throat of
>>this
>>>>>>>country.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>He is something else. If you did not hear the interview, the
>>>following
>>>>>>>>>>>>>was
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>discussed and it is true. They have all this money coming
in
>>>and
>>>>>>>the
>>>>>>>>>>>majority
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>of his own people are living in poverty and he is so rich.
>He
>>>>is
>>>>>>>best
>>>>>>>>>>>>of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>friends with Castro and Russian leaders. He told Diane Sawyer
>>>>that
>>>>>>>>>he
>>>>>>>>>>>>was
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>friends with all the world leaders, but President Bush is
as
>>>dumb
>>>>>>>>as
>>>>>>>>>>>a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>'donkey'.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>CITGO CHANGING NAME...this is serious Americans...make sure
>>you
>>>>>>read
>>>>>>>>>>>..
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>NEWS FLASH: Chavez is NOW getting a Russian Weapons Factory
>>built
>>>>>>>>by
>>>>>>>>>>>Putin.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>The RUSSIANS are building an AK-47 Kalashnikov Assault Rifle
>>>factory
>>>>>>>>>>>in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Venezuela,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>to give armament support to Communist Rebel groups throughout
>>>>the
>>>>>>>>Americas.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Chavez NOW has IRANIANS operating his oil refineries in Venezuela
>>>>>>>>for
>>>>>>>>>>>>him.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>It is likely only a matter of time, if not already, before
>Chavez
>>>>>>>>has
>>>>>>>>>>>>Iranian
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>built LONG RANGE missiles, with a variety of warhead types
>aimed
>>>>>>>at:
>>>>>>>>>>>Guess
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Who?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>CITGO is NOW in the process of Changing Its Name to PETRO
EXPRESS
>>>>>>>>due
>>>>>>>>>>>>to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>the loss of gasoline sales in the USA due to the recent publicity
>>>>>>>>of
>>>>>>>>>>>ownership
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>by Chavez of Venezuela.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Every dollar you spend with CITGO or PETRO EXPRESS gasoline
>>will
>>>>>>>be
>>>>>>>>>>used
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>against you, your basic human rights, and your freedoms. He
>>will
>>>>>>>start
>>>>>>>>>>>>>wars
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>here in the Americas that will probably be the death of millions
>>>>>>>of
>>>>>>>>>>free
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>people.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>THIS IS VERY IMPORTANT because Chavez is starting to feel
the
>>>>loss
>>>>>>>>>of
>>>>>>>>>>>>revenue
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>from his holdings. HE OWNS CITGO. This is a very important
>move
>>>>>>that
>>>>>>>>>>>everyone
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>should be aware of.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>ANNOUNCED JUST RECENTLY, CITGO, BEING AWARE THAT SALES ARE
>DOWN
>>>>>>DUE
>>>>>>>>>>TO
>>>>>>>>>>>>>U.S.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>CUSTOMERS NOT WANTING TO BUY FROM "CITGO-CHAVEZ", HAVE STARTED
>>>>>TO
>>>>>>>>CHANGE
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>THE NAME OF SOME OF THEIR STORES TO: "PETRO EXPRESS"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>DO NOT BUY FROM "PETRO EXPRESS" EITHER!!! "PETRO EXPRESS"
IS
>>>ALSO
>>>>>>>>100%
>>>>>>>>>>>>>OWNED
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>BY "CHAVEZ."
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>KEEP THIS MEMO GOING SO THAT EVERYONE KNOWS WHAT IS HAPPENING.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>BOYCOTT "CITGO" AND "PETRO EXPRESS".............MAKE SURE
THIS
>>>>>IS
>>>>>>>>PASSED
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>ON TO EVERYONE in YOUR E-MAIL LIST IN THE UNITED STATES AND
>>OUTSIDE
>>>>>>>>>>OF
>>>>>>>>>>>>>AMERICA.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>"LaMont" <jjdpro@ameritech.net> wrote:
>
>Read My Lips!!!!
Wow, that was lame.
>
>"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>In so many words.
>>
>>"LaMont" <jjdpro@ameritech.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>I never said our Gov is shit, but rather those running it 'now" is full
>>of
>>>shit..
>>>
>>>"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>What ever LaMont. Your the one that said enough, so here we go again.
>>
>>>When
>>>>you say our government is shit and communism is Ok, your way off.
>>>>
>>>>Your the one that started telling people that they are stupid and brainwashed.
>>>> I'm just saying that I think your the one that is brainwashed by the
>liberal
>>>>media.
>>>>
>>>>Go read up on what is going on in Venezuela, the people are not happy
>that
>>>>they are being oppressed by a communist dictator. People are being shot
>>>>down there.
>>>>
>>>>Communism flourishing in our hemisphere is a threat to our national security.
>>>> I'm the one that is saying that, not the CIA!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>"LaMont" <jjdpro@ameritech.net> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>James.. yes it's not free. But, seeing how much this country waste on
>>stupid
>>>>>things that we'll never see..and we're talking Billions my friend, health
>>>>>care for all is fair shake.
>>>>>
>>>>>Personally, I don't mind paying for someone who is less fortunate to
>live
>>>>>instead of dying.
>>>>>
>>>>>But, thats just me.
>>>>>
>>>>>On a personal note. You can call me libral all you like, who cares??
>Those
>>>>>are my views. I have some libral views and some very conservative ones
>>>as
>>>>>well..But, please don't think that you are insulting me with calling
>me
>>>>a
>>>>>liberal.. You're not. I take it as a compliment..
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>"LaMont" <jjdpro@ameritech.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>James, we agree but disagree.. I believe that Health Care should be
>>free
>>>>>>to
>>>>>>>all Americans.. AND, if you pay into SS, you should some kind of
pay-off.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>There is nothing for free! Health care is not free. Somebody has to
>>pay
>>>>>>for it. That would mean much higher taxes, so be prepared to pay for
>>>it.
>>>>>> The tax the rich lie is designed for the suckers. The middle class
>>ALWAYS
>>>>>>end up with the bill!!!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>However, it's afact that when people go out to Vegas to invest their
>>>money,
>>>>>>>the outcome is usuallly bad. The average american does not no how
to
>>>invest
>>>>>>>in the market. That would be like wall street preying on the weak
and
>>>>innocent.
>>>>>>>basically robing them (us)..
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Oh yeah, we're dumb, we can be trusted to invest. Just keep buying
>that
>>>>>>liberal line! I'm talking about choice, but you don't get it. So
hold
>>>>>hard
>>>>>>to you party lines.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Go research what is going on in Taxes where they opted out of SS, and
>>>see
>>>>>>what they are getting on there returns.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Also, the Canadian medial system was poor(second rate) before they
>went
>>>>>>national.
>>>>>>>By going national, only did it polarize what was already known..
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>The Canadian system doesn't work! I've explained it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>LaMont, your thinking is way off! You can't blame everything on
Bush.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>My Canadian friends have to come over here because the waiting list
>>>for
>>>>>>>things
>>>>>>>>like surgery or even test results are so long. It doesn't work there,
>>>>>>and
>>>>>>>>it wont work here, if our government runs it. Our government mismanages
>>>>>>>>everything!!!!!!!! Yes there should be some kind of low cost or
free
>>>>>healthcare.
>>>>>>>> It should only be for American citizens!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Social Security is a joke! The idiots in government keep robbing
>it
>>>>to
>>>>>>>pay
>>>>>>>>for their pork programs. The first law should be that they can't
>touch
>>>>>>>it
>>>>>>>>because they never pay it back and it's our money! Second should
>be
>>>>that
>>>>>>>>the people have a choice in how it's invested, it's our money!!!
>They
>>>>>>should
>>>>>>>>have split programs where you can have it invested in different accounts
>>>>>>>>so that it's diversified.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>The mentality that the government should take care of you is a bad
>>one.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>The free ride in this country is going to be over soon!!!!!!!!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>"LaMont" <jjdpro@ameritech.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>You got it..
>>>>>>>>>Question; Do you think every american wants capitalism? or would
>they
>>>>>>prefer
>>>>>>>>>free health care and social security???
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>So when they start killing and oppressing people as communist always
>>>>>>do,
>>>>>>>>>will
>>>>>>>>>>that go a long with your Christen beliefs? I don't see how the
>two
>>>>>fit.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>Just because Chavez is a communist and wants a communist government
>>>>>doesn't
>>>>>>>>>>mean that the people want it. I think they are proving that by
>their
>>>>>>>protesting.
>>>>>>>>>> Oh yeah, I forgot, that's just the dictator Bush's CIA at work,
>>>not
>>>>>>>the
>>>>>>>>>>real people of Venezuela.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>"LaMont" <jjppro@ameritech.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>I thought you were a Christian?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>I am.. God's order of Government is a Theocracy and of a Democracy.
>>>>>>One
>>>>>>>>>>ruler
>>>>>>>>>>>system.. Not baiting..
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>USA should be dictating policy over another country. If they want
>>>>to
>>>>>>>be
>>>>>>>>>>comunist
>>>>>>>>>>>let them. That's my belife. That does not manke me anyless american..
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>What's wrong wit Communism? I thought you were a Christian?
>Well
>>>>>>anyways,
>>>>>>>>>>>>try freedom!!! When you rule your people with military force
>and
>>>>>take
>>>>>>>>>>their
>>>>>>>>>>>>freedoms away It's not a good thing. They will kill anybody
that
>>>>>does
>>>>>>>>>>not
>>>>>>>>>>>>want to go along. He will stay rich while the people live in
>poverty,
>>>>>>>>>>that's
>>>>>>>>>>>>the Communist way. He is just another communist dictator. He
>>want's
>>>>>>>>>to
>>>>>>>>>>>>arm Communist rebels all over south america. That's not good
>for
>>>>>anybody,
>>>>>>>>>>>>especially America. That will cause conflicts that a lot of
people
>>>>>>>will
>>>>>>>>>>>>die in, possibly americans. The USA will not just stand by and
>>>watch
>>>>>>>>>south
>>>>>>>>>>>>america fall to communism.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>LaMont, I guess you are showing your true anti American colors.
>>>
>>>>Or
>>>>>>>are
>>>>>>>>>>>you
>>>>>>>>>>>>just bating? Please clarify.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>"LaMont" <jjdpro@ameritech.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>same with tme. I had a 88 Izuzu I mark and filled it with some
>>>citgo
>>>>>>>>>gas/water
>>>>>>>>>>>>>and it killed my catalytic converter..
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>It took a long time for me to buy Citgo gas . But, just because
>>>>a
>>>>>>country
>>>>>>>>>>>>>is communist, does that mean they are evil??
>>>>>>>>>>>>>Come on man. Take off the USA blinders..
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>"James McCloskey" <Report message to a moderator
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