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Tom Bruhl is currently offline  Tom Bruhl   UNITED STATES
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Rod,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>If SPDIF is always a clean bounce then =
I suspect=20
hardware for sure.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I'd say ribbon connectors between the =
cards or=20
points on the EDS card.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Maybe a bad EDS card.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Tom</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV>"Neil" &lt;<A href=3D"mailto:OIU@OIU.com">OIU@OIU.com</A>&gt; =
wrote in=20
message <A=20
=
href=3D"news:472f5dde$1@linux">news:472f5dde$1@linux</A>...</DIV><BR>You =
know,=20
the only other thing I can think of is that it's an<BR>input overload =
problem=20
with one of your UAD plugins. Consider<BR>trying this: Get a simple =
VST gain=20
plugin like this one:<BR><BR><A=20
=
href=3D"http://www.gvst.co.uk/dl070421/GGain-GJ.zip">http://www.gvst.co.u=
k/dl070421/GGain-GJ.zip</A><BR><BR>Insert=20
it BEFORE every UAD plugin you're using, dropping the<BR>gain by let's =
say=20
5db, then on the UAD plug's output, make up<BR>the 5db=20
difference.<BR><BR>Neil<BR><BR><BR><BR><BR>"Rod Lincoln" &lt;<A=20
=
href=3D"mailto:rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com">rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com</A>&g=
t;=20
wrote:<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;Yeah, I did that when this initially started, a =
couple=20
weeks ago.<BR>&gt;Rod<BR>&gt;"Neil" &lt;<A=20
href=3D"mailto:OIU@IOU.com">OIU@IOU.com</A>&gt;=20
wrote:<BR>&gt;&gt;<BR>&gt;&gt;And you've already done the usual stuff =
like=20
removing your EDS<BR>&gt;&gt;cards, cleaning off the contacts &amp; =
re-seating=20
them,=20
=
etc?<BR>&gt;&gt;<BR>&gt;&gt;Neil<BR>&gt;&gt; <BR>&gt;&gt;<BR>&gt;&gt;<BR>&=
gt;&gt;"Rod=20
Lincoln" &lt;<A=20
=
href=3D"mailto:rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com">rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com</A>&g=
t;=20
wrote:<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;Tom, I've already done that. =
It's not=20
that. It's definiatly something<BR>that<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;only shows up =
on the=20
bounced to disk file. Also it's totally random=20
and<BR>&gt;&gt;not<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;at all related to any single audio =
event.=20
<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;Rod<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt; "Tom Bruhl" &lt;<A=20
href=3D"mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A>&gt;=20
wrote:<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; <BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;Okay =

Rod,<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;How about one track with the UAD=20
plugs<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;that has a few rough spots that are=20
amplified<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;by the plugin=20
set?<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;Mute one track at a time =
to find=20
it.&nbsp; PITA for=20
=
sure.<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;???<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;Tom <BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&n=
bsp;=20
"Rod Lincoln" &lt;<A=20
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href=3D"mailto:rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com">
Re: Getting ready to see Les Paul [message #91636 is a reply to message #91632] Fri, 19 October 2007 06:30 Go to previous message
TCB is currently offline  TCB
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;<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&nbsp; &gt;&nbsp; "Rod Lincoln" &lt;<A=20
=
href=3D"mailto:rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com">rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com</A>&g=
t;=20
wrote in message =3D3D<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&nbsp;=20
&gt;news:472e82a3$1@linux...<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&nbsp;=20
&gt;<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&nbsp; &gt;&nbsp; Neil, thanks for your =
response. see=20
my answers interleaved below<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&nbsp; &gt;&nbsp;=20
Rod<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&nbsp; &gt;&nbsp; "Neil" &lt;<A=20
href=3D"mailto:OIU@I.com">OIU@I.com</A>&gt; =
wrote:<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&nbsp;=20
&gt;&nbsp; &gt;<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&nbsp; &gt;&nbsp; &gt;This is =
weird... have=20
you tried any of the following:<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&nbsp; &gt;&nbsp;=20
&gt;<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&nbsp; &gt;&nbsp; &gt;1.) pan everything to =
center,=20
and then see if it still shows up<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&nbsp; &gt;&nbsp; =
&gt;on=20
the left channel? or is the crackling then =
centered?<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&nbsp;=20
&gt;<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&nbsp; &gt;&nbsp; Everything Panned Ctr still=20
Crackles<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&nbsp; &gt;&nbsp; =
&gt;<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&nbsp;=20
&gt;&nbsp; &gt;2.) removing ALL plugins &amp; EFX, and bouncing =
dry/clean=20
like<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&nbsp; &gt;&nbsp; &gt;that, with everything =
panned as=20
you normally would for this<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&nbsp; &gt;&nbsp; =
&gt;mix? This=20
includes anything inserted across the =
2-buss.<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&nbsp;=20
&gt;<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&nbsp; &gt;&nbsp; Bounce with No FX (Auxes, =
both=20
internal and external) still=20
=3D<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;Crackles<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&nbsp;=20
&gt;<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&nbsp; &gt;&nbsp; Bounce with no plugs...this =
does=20
produce a crackle free=20
=
bounce.<BR>I<BR>&gt;&gt;=3D<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;=3D3D <BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&=
nbsp;=20
&gt;tried this<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&nbsp; &gt;&nbsp; the first time it =
happened=20
a couple weeks ago, and thought I=20
had<BR>&gt;it<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;=3D<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;=20
=3D3D<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&nbsp; &gt;narrowed<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&nbsp; =

&gt;&nbsp; down to the UAD plugs. I re-ghosted to a sys version that =
had=20
an<BR>&gt;=3D<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;=3D3D <BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&nbsp;=20
&gt;earlier<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&nbsp; &gt;&nbsp; UAD install (can't =
remember=20
the number, it had the Helios, but=20
=
not<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;=3D<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;the <BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&nbsp;=20
=3D3D<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&nbsp; &gt;Neve<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&nbsp; =
&gt;&nbsp;=20
88)and the crackles went away, so I thought it was a software=20
rev<BR>&gt;&gt;=3D<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;that <BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&nbsp;=20
=3D3D<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&nbsp; &gt;Paris<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&nbsp; =
&gt;&nbsp;=20
didn't like, but just to be sure I reloaded the new version of=20
=
the<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;=3D<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;UAD <BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&nbsp;=20
=3D3D<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&nbsp; &gt;software<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&nbsp; =

&gt;&nbsp; (the one with the Neve 88)&nbsp; and it still didn't =
crackle. At=20
that<BR>&gt;=3D<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;point <BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&nbsp;=20
=3D3D<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&nbsp; &gt;I<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&nbsp; =
&gt;&nbsp;=20
thought it might be something else altogether and since I am=20
=
in<BR>the<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;=3D<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;=3D3D <BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;=
&nbsp;=20
&gt;middle<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&nbsp; &gt;&nbsp; of a mixing project =
that I'm=20
using the Neve 88 plug on a lot=20
=
(love<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;=3D<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;=3D3D <BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&nbs=
p;=20
&gt;what it<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&nbsp; &gt;&nbsp; does) I just went for =
it,=20
listening closely to bounces. I=20
=
actually<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;=3D<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;did <BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&nb=
sp;=20
=3D3D<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&nbsp; &gt;2<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&nbsp; =
&gt;&nbsp;=20
bounces of every mix and listened back to both at the same=20
time,<BR>&gt;=3D<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;out =
=3D3D<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&nbsp; &gt;of=20
phase<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&nbsp; &gt;&nbsp; with each other, to hear =
the=20
difference, since the crackles =3D<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;appeared=20
=3D3D<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&nbsp; &gt;to be<BR>&gt;
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