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Tue, 07 August 2007 07:18

Dimitrios

Messages: 1056
Registered: August 2005

Senior Member

>> wrote:
>>
>> Just my thought,I think it would be a great move if Apple aquired
>>> Motu.
>>
>>Don't forget that Nuendo 4 (now shipping) and Cubase 4.1 (coming soon) are
also competing on Intel/PPC Macs.
DP and Logic aren't alone there.

Jamie - side bar question, is Logic 8 now completely Cocoa, or is it still
Carbon?

Dedric

"LaMont" <jjdpro@gmail.com> wrote in message news:47052660$1@linux...
>
> Hey Jamie, on the software front, Motu can't compete with Apple's giveaway
> pricing of Logic Studio. Let's be honest, DP's main user base is the
> Hollywood
> composer crowd. Not enough to keep up with Apple's onslaught.
>
> Competition is good for any industry, but it seems that like most
> industries,
> "consolidation" is the name of the game.
>
>
>
> Jamie K

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Re: "Dimitrios" U47 based microphones ! update [message #88801 is a reply to message #88799]

Tue, 07 August 2007 09:46

Cujjo

Messages: 325
Registered: June 2007

Senior Member

have
>>DP and Logic continue to compete.
>>
>>Cheers,
>> -Jamie
>> www.JamieKrutz.com
>>
>>
>>Gantt Kushner wrote:
>>> Damn! And put the MOTU software engineers together w/ the Apple
>>> engineers
>>> to combine DP and Logic?
>>>
>>> Gantt
>>>
>>> "LaMont" <jjdpro@ameritech.net> wrote:
>>>
>>> Just my thought,I think it would be a great move if Apple aquired
>>>> Motu.
>>>
>>>
>LaMont wrote:
> Hey Jamie, on the software front, Motu can't compete with Apple's giveaway
> pricing of Logic Studio.

Sure they can.

MOTU has a great sequencer that was already priced at $500 long before
Apple came down to that price.

MOTU has some very capable software instruments and they work with
anyone's sequencer including Logic and DP.

And MOTU has dependable, workhorse i/o hardware.

MOTU can sell hardware/software bundles with DP, and they can sell
instrument and hardware add-ons that work with any sequencer. A lot of
the basic R&D costs should be recouped by now, they are in a good

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Re: "Dimitrios" U47 based microphones ! update [message #88803 is a reply to message #88799]

Tue, 07 August 2007 10:43

Messages: 1124
Registered: July 2005

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's main user base is the Hollywood
> composer crowd. Not enough to keep up with Apple's onslaught.
>
> Competition is good for any industry, but it seems that like most industries,
> "consolidation" is the name of the game.
>
>
>
> Jamie K <Meta@Dimensional.com> wrote:
>> OTOH, in the interested of having some choices, it'd be better to have
>> DP and Logic continue to compete.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> -Jamie
>> www.JamieKrutz.com
>>
>>
>> Gantt Kushner wrote:
>>> Damn! And put the MOTU software engineers together w/ the Apple engineers
>>> to combine DP and Logic?
>>>
>>> Gantt
>>>
>>> "LaMont" <jjdpro@ameritech.net> wrote:
>>>
>>> Just my thought,I think it would be a great move if Apple aquired
>>>> Motu.
>>>
>Dedric Terry wrote:
> Don't forget that Nuendo 4 (now shipping) and Cubase 4.1 (coming soon)
> are also competing on Intel/PPC Macs.
> DP and Logic aren't alone there.

True. And Live and a few others. Choice is good.

> Jamie - side bar question, is Logic 8 now completely Cocoa, or is it
> still Carbon?

I haven't heard. I still haven't even had time to in

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Re: "Dimitrios" U47 based microphones ! update [message #88806 is a reply to message #88803]

Tue, 07 August 2007 12:34

chuck duffy
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Senior Member

d
>>>>> Motu.
>>>>
>>>>
>>
>A lot more people use DP than you think. The Mac side needs to maintain choice,
other wise people will say that there is no Audio software for the Mac.
Stupid people would listen and abandon the platform. There is not one size
that fits all, people like choice.

I thought they should have bought Steinberg, MOTU over Emagic, but hey, it's
all history now. By the way have you seen Apple stock prices lately? They
must have made some right choices. I wish I would have listen to myself
and bought when they dipped below $14.00 a share. The stock has split at
least once or twice since then. Oh well.

"LaMont" <jjdpro@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>Hey Jamie, on the software front, Motu can't compete with Apple's giveaway
>pricing of Logic Studio. Let's be honest, DP's main user base is the Hollywood
>composer crowd. Not enough to keep up with Apple's onslaught.
>
>Competition is good for any industry, but it seems that like most industries,
>"consolidation" is the name of the game.
>
>
>
>Jamie K <Meta@Dimensional.com> wrote:
>>
>>OTOH, in the interested of having some choices, it'd be better to have

>>DP and Logic continue to compete.
>>
>>Cheers,
>> -Jamie
>> www.JamieKrutz.com
>>
>>
>>Gantt Kushner wrote:
>>> Damn! And put the MOTU software engineers together w/ the Apple engineers
>>> to combine DP and Logic?
>>>
>>> Gantt
>>>
>>> "L

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Re: "Dimitrios" U47 based microphones ! update [message #88810 is a reply to message #88801]

Tue, 07 August 2007 13:45

Cujjo

Messages: 325
Registered: June 2007

Senior Member

;>>Hey Jamie, on the software front, Motu can't compete with Apple's giveaway
>>>pricing of Logic Studio. Let's be honest, DP's main user base is the Hollywood
>>>composer crowd. Not enough to keep up with Apple's onslaught.
>>>
>>>Competition is good for any industry, but it seems that like most industries,
>>>"consolidation" is the name of the game.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>Jamie K <Meta@Dimensional.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>OTOH, in the interested of having some choices, it'd be better to have
>>
>>>>DP and Logic continue to compete.
>>>>
>>>>Cheers,
>>>> -Jamie
>>>> www.JamieKrutz.com
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Gantt Kushner wrote:
>>>>> Damn! And put the MOTU software engineers together w/ the Apple engineers
>>>>> to combine DP and Logic?
>>>>>
>>>>> Gantt
>>>>>
>>>>> "LaMont" <jjdpro@ameritech.net> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Just my thought,I think it would be a great move if Apple aquired
>>>>>> Motu.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>
>>
>I have two groundhogs in my back yard fattening up for the winter. I was just
about to name them Pointless and Extravagance.
Gene

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Re: "Dimitrios" U47 based microphones ! update [message #88838 is a reply to message #88810]

Wed, 08 August 2007 21:36

Neil
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Registered: April 2006

Senior Member

ch man, and I could use the help.
>>
>>As always, let me know what you think.
>>
>D are you talking about the "grainy" sound Eventiter has?
I always want to use it but find it a bit harsh to listen to. It would be
killer if it was smooooth!

"Dimitrios" <musurgio@otenet.gr> wrote:
>
>Hey Mike !!
>Thats brilliant work !!
>I am now trying the new comp and will post what I think of it !!
>Hey guys send some money to Mike.
>I have already and I will send again ...
>We need Mike developing and I can see him making nEW PLUGZ for us. !!
>Hey Mike.
>I can probably give you access to my site (for free of course) and some
MB's
>to upload your stuff.
>If you wanna do this email me...
>This 48khz versus 44.1 khz thing just k..s me !
>I did not know that we had sample rate conversion on the fly !!
>This maybe would fix some digital noise thing with eventiter !
>
>Mike can you add a dry wet mix knob on reverbs ??
>There is a way to use them on inserts but without this dry/wet thing it
is
>of no real use !!
>
>Thanks for your great efforts and I hope that everyone will reply to this
>and say at least a thank (some money to him is also better :))you Mike for
>what you are doing for Paris !!!
>
>Regards,
>Dimitrios
>
>"Mike Audet" <mike@.....> wrote:
>>
>>Hey all,
>>
>>I've got some new goodies!
>>
>>I've just released the "PARIS compressor". It's the original PARIS compressor
>>algo before it was "crunched" to allow 16 compressors to fit on one EDS100
>>card. I've added meters (of course) AND
>>
>>I fixed the sample rate bug in this and my previous two plugins!
>>
>>If you hadn't heard, almost all the PARIS effects assume 48k for their
calculations,
>>even when they are working at 44.1K. Not these. They operate at the project
>>sample rate. Can you hear a difference?

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Re: "Dimitrios" U47 based microphones ! update [message #88841 is a reply to message #88838]

Thu, 09 August 2007 03:32

Dimitrios

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Registered: August 2005

Senior Member

t;project
>>sample rate. Can you hear a difference? You tell me!
>>
>>you can download these at www.mikeaudet.com/ensoniq.ca or
>>once the DNS goes through, simply at ensoniq.ca.
>>
>>These plugins are released as "pay what you can" (ie - not free). I'm
>>not a rich man, and I could use the help.
>>
>>As always, let me know what you think.
>>
>Hi Cujo,
Yes sometimes it sounds grainy as you say especially on band limited tracks
like electric guitar that is not evident on vocals !
So I guess some kind of prefiltering inside eventide could solve that somehow
I guess !
Dimitrios

"Cujo" <chris@applemanstudio.com> wrote:
>
>
>D are you talking about the "grainy" sound Eventiter has?
>I always want to use it but find it a bit harsh to listen to. It would be
>killer if it was smooooth!
>
>
>
>"Dimitrios" <musurgio@otenet.gr> wrote:
>>
>>Hey Mike !!
>>Thats brilliant work !!
>>I am now trying the new comp and will post what I think of it !!
>>Hey guys send some money to Mike.
>>I have already and I will send again ...
>>We need Mike developing and I can see him making nEW PLUGZ for us. !!
>>Hey Mike.
>>I can probably give you access to my site (for free of course) and some
>MB's
>>to upload your stuff.
>>If you wanna do this email me...
>>This 48khz versus 44.1 khz thing just k..s me !
>>I did not know that we had sample rate conversion on the fly !!
>>This maybe would fix some digital noise thing with eventiter !
>>
>>Mike can you add a dry wet mix knob on reverbs ??
>>There is a way to use them on inserts but without this dry/wet thing it
>is
>>of no real use !!
>>
>>Thanks for your great efforts and I hope that everyone will reply to this
>>and say at least a thank (some money to him is also better :))you Mike
for
>>what you are doing for Paris !!!
>>
>>Regards,
>>Dimitrios
>>
>>"Mike Audet" <mike@.....> wrote:
>>>
>>>Hey all,
>>>
>>>I've got some new goodies!
>>>
>>>I've just released the "PARIS compressor". It's the original PARIS compressor
>>>algo before it was "crunched" to allow 16 compressors to fit on one EDS100
>>>card. I've added meters (of course) AND
>>>
>

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Re: "Dimitrios" U47 based microphones ! update [message #88843 is a reply to message #88838]

Thu, 09 August 2007 05:50

Cujjo

Messages: 325
Registered: June 2007

Senior Member

t heard, almost all the PARIS effects assume 48k for their
>calculations,
>>>even when they are working at 44.1K. Not these. They operate at the
project
>>>sample rate. Can you hear a difference? You tell me!
>>>
>>>you can download these at www.mikeaudet.com/ensoniq.ca or
>>>once the DNS goes through, simply at ensoniq.ca.
>>>
>>>These plugins are released as "pay what you can" (ie - not free). I'm
>>>not a rich man, and I could use the help.
>>>
>>>As always, let me know what you think.
>>>
>>
>http://finance.google.com/finance?q=aapl

Apple had one 2:1 split in early 2005, so if you bought the stock before
then (say in the high 20's) the current share price should be doubled, so
you've had a 10x return in less than three years. It's also trading at 44x
earnings right now, while HP, Dell, and MSFT are trading at less than half
of that, so you have to be a real believer in future growth to be a buyer
today. However, I wish I had every penny of my money in AAPL since Jan 1
2005, even if I can't stand their operating systems.

TCB

"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>A lot more people use DP than you think. The Mac side needs to maintain
choice,
>other wise people will say that there is no Audio software for the Mac.

>Stupid people would listen and abandon the platform. There is not one size
>that fits all, people like choice.
>
>I thought they should have bought Steinberg, MOTU over Emagic, but hey,
it's
>all history now. By the way have you seen Apple stock prices lately? They
>must have made some right choices. I wish I would have listen to myself
>and bought when they dipped below $14.00 a share. The stock has split at
>least once or twice since then. Oh well.
>
>"LaMont" <jjdpro@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>Hey Jamie, on the software front, Motu can't compete with Apple's giveaway
>>pricing of Logic Studio. Let's be honest, DP's main user base is the Hollywood
>>composer crowd. Not enough to keep up with Apple's onslaught.
>>
>>Competition is good for any industry, but it seems that like most industries,
>>"consolidation" is the name of the game.
>>
>>
>>
>>Jamie K <Meta@Dimensional.com> wrote:
>>>
>>

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Thu, 09 August 2007 05:52

Cujjo

Messages: 325
Registered: June 2007

Senior Member

>OTOH, in the interested of having some choices, it'd be better to have
>
>>>DP and Logic continue to compete.
>>>
>>>Cheers,
>>> -Jamie
>>> www.JamieKrutz.com
>>>
>>>
>>>Gantt Kushner wrote:
>>>> Damn! And put the MOTU software engineers together w/ the Apple engineers
>>>> to combine DP and Logic?
>>>>
>>>> Gantt
>>>>
>>>> "LaMont" <jjdpro@ameritech.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Just my thought,I think it would be a great move if Apple aquired
>>>>> Motu.
>>>>
>>>>
>>
>Hi Mike,
Yes this compressor on fast times sounds cleaner than the stock one !!
Nice !!
Can you please add a dry mix on the compressors ??
That should have the 2 samples latency as to be in phase .
You know all ensoniq plugins introduce 2 samples latency !
That would make a very very important addition !
Thus you could add (in phase) some uncompressed signal along a squashed one
!!
I would love that !!

Also it would be handy a simple latency adder !
That is if you wanna put a couple of compressors on kick and snare and keep
the drumtracks in phase you could put the latency adder for the 2 samples
each introduces and not charge the Eds cpu !

Keep up the great work !
Regards,
Dimitrios

"Mike Audet" <mike@....> wrote:
>
>Hi Dimitrios,
>
>Thanks for you kind words!
>
>It's not that we had sample rate conversion on the fly, but the math done
>to change the samples as they came through was all based on a 48k sample
>rate. So, all the parameters were around 10% wrong. Sample rate is used
>for more than just what EQ to tweak - there's a lot of math that goes on
>regarding how the frequencies are affected, an a lot of that involves having
>the sample rate right.
>
>The FreakQ was always set to 44.1. All the other effects I've seen are
set
>to 48 by default. If eventiter doesn't make the digital noise at 48k, themn
>I would say that there is a very good chance I can fix it.
>
>As for adding a wet/dry mix, I think I will eventually be able to do that.
> I found a 100 page spec of the PARIS DSP assembler. I'm going to give
it
>a read, but it will be a while before I can really do much with it. I'm
>just learning. :)
>
>Thanks also for offering the hosting. I'm all set at ensoniq.ca for now.
>
>All the best,
>
>Mike
>
>
>
>
>"Dimitrios" <musurgio@otenet.gr> wrote:
>>
>>Hey Mike !!
>>Thats brilliant work !!
>>I am now trying the new comp and will post what I think of it !!
>>Hey guys send some money to Mike.
>>I have already and I will send ag

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Fri, 10 August 2007 01:59

Dimitrios

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---=_linux4707d34c--Sarah-

This sounds 100% like a Saratonin tune. Like nothing else.

Kinda like Macle sounds 100% like Macle.

It's a rare gift to sound completely original and unique and authentic at
the same time. I love it.

-stev

"Sarah" <sarahjane@sarahtonin.com> wrote:
> . . . had it been a real emergency, etc
>
> OK, I don't normally do this, but damn it, this song is driving me crazy

>and I need some opinions . . .
>
> I'm linking a demo of a song from the new CD project. It's a weird

>little ditty and I just wanna know what people think and also if anyone
can
>tell me what the hell kind of music this is. Or maybe that doesn't matter.

>Who cares about categories anyway?
>
> Remember, it's just a quick demo, so excuse the midi drums and the raspy

>scratch vocal. :)
>
>to stream:
>

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