| OT: An Old Hot Dog Can Teach Us Some New Tricks [message #86233] |
Wed, 06 June 2007 16:58  |
Aaron Allen
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> Neil
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> "Dimitrios" <musurgio@NOSPAM....> wrote:
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>>DJ,
>>This is a "broken capsule due to humidity ,one main reason.
>>Youave these to options except from servicing it somewhere.
>>First you can turn around th capsule and use the mic in cardiod mode so
> the
>>"broken"side of the capsule will be in back.
>>ust unscrew the capsule and turn it 180o degrees and screwit again.
>>DO NOT TOUCH the membrane !!!
>>The other option is to "fix"the capsule !!
>>Yes.
>>Put the microphone without head cover (watch not to touch again) under a
>>lamp that produces heat.
>>Not much as you can burn it but s much as you can feel comforting the heat
>>coming out of the lamp.
>>Leave it there for 2-3 days.
>>Maybethis will cure the capsule problem.
>>Hope thse help.
>>Regards,
>>Dimitrios
>>
>>Bill L <bill@billlorentzen.com> wrote:
>>>You're not an A hole - more like a G# hole. No, you're in the right. The
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>>>mic is broken, duh.
>>>
>>>My advice for next time: if a guy spells that poorly he probably has no
>>
>>>idea if a mic is in "very good working condition".
>>>
>>>DJ wrote:
>>>> I purchase a pair of Neumann KM84i's on EBay. Seller uses the following
>>
>>>> language in his ad........
>>>>
>>>> It is in very good working condition it is missing the purple
>>>> neumann shield on the microphone it has some minor ware and tare a few
>>
>>>> light scratches on it as well over all i would give it an 8 out of 10
>>>>
>>>> I plugged it in with Phantom power it works and sounds great
>>>>
>>>> i will offer a refund only if microphone is damaged during shipping
>>>>
>>>> Shipping insurance is recomended
>>>>
>>>> this item will be sold as is and will not arrive D.O.A.
>>>>
>>>> Seller offers to hship them to me for $10.00. I tell him no, and
>>>> provide
>>
>>>> him with my UPS account number and tell him to ship them 2nd day,
>>>> insured for $3000.00, which he does. For some reason, they arrive late,
>>
>>>> (the evening of June 28th) but the package is completely intact and
>>>> shows no signs of damage or mishandling.
>>>>
>>>> I put them up on stands and conncet them to my Great river preamp. the
>>
>>>> output of one if them is a bit low initially, but comes back up to an
>>
>>>> acceptable level after a minute. I leave them up for about 45 minutes
>>to
>>>> get a burn in and they appear to function normally.
>>>>
>>>> The next day I do the same. Output level of same mic is a bit low, but
>>
>>>> stabilizes. I use them for a little while, then put them away. I leave
>>
>>>> the seller positive feedback because I am willing to concede that an
>>
>>>> old mic like this may need to get the circuitry warmed up in order to
>>
>>>> stabilize.
>>>>
>>>> Sunday, July 2nd, I have a picker come over to do some tracking. I put
>>
>>>> the mics up and start tracking. The same mic that I thought needed to
>>
>>>> stabilize drops in level to the point it is ususable, making quite a
> bit
>>
>>>> of racket as it dies.
>>>>
>>>> I call "a well known expert" (I'm keeping names out of this) on Monday
>>
>>>> and under his guidance, I remove the capsule of the mic that died. then
>>
>>>> I remove the capsule of the mic that works. the connecting pin from the
>>
>>>> capsule assembly to the amp of the bad mic is physically broken off in
>>
>>>> the back of the capsule assembly. When the capsulle is screwed on to
> the
>>
>>>> amp, there is barely enough current flowing between the broken pin
>>>> pieces to provide some signal, though not enough to be usable. I have
>>
>>>> attached pictures.
>>>>
>>>> At this point I called yet another well respected expert who services
>>
>>>> these mics for an opinion and was told that he had a backlog until late
>>
>>>> 2008 but that Neumann could probably fix this issue. I boxed up both
>
>>>> mics, called Neumann, talked to their tech support, got an RA# and
>>>> shipped the mics on Monday PM.
>>>>
>>>> I then called PayPal and described the problem. They stated that their
>>
>>>> policy is that no matter how a seller represents an item, if he accepts
>>
>>>> Payment by PayPal, he is subject to the PP 45 day
>>>> complaint/arbitration/refund policy (I guess this may be why people who
>>
>>>> sell very expensive old "vintage" mics, don't accept PayPal. The
>>>> support
>>
>>>> guy also advised me to go ahead and submit a complaint so that this
>>>> could be handled properly.
>>>>
>>>> I thought about this and then e-mailed the seller through EBay with a
>>
>>>> brief description of what had happened. I didn't hear back from him for
>>
>>>> a few hours. I decided to file the complaint (the seller thinks a
>>>> little
>>
>>>> prematurely) because I'm extremely busy and don't have the time to jack
>>
>>>> around with waiting for some dude who probably is going to tell me that
>>
>>>> I bought these "as is:" so he's not going to do jack ****. Judging by
>>
>>>> the language in his ad, he is obvious intent is to sell a used mic and
>>
>>>> then deny responsibility for it's condition because /"this item will
> be
>>
>>>> sold as is and will not arrive D.O.A"/ because "/ I plugged it in with
>>
>>>> Phantom power it works and sounds great"/
>>>>
>>>> Since I paid for both mics at once, Paypal gave this a single
>>>> transaction # and has frozen the payment for both mics. I clearly told
>>
>>>> him (when he replied to my complaint) and to PayPal (when I made the
>
>>>> complaint) that my problem was with only one of the mics. I will be
>>>> fine
>>
>>>> with releasing the funds to him for the working mic, but I have not yet
>>
>>>> received a reply from him to my reply *to* his reply to my reply
>>>> (sigh).
>>>>
>>>> I have asked him to pay for the repair or give me a full refund for
> the
>>
>>>> mic if the capsule is not repairable. II am also willing to abide by
> the
>>
>>>> opinion of the folks at Neumann as to the condition of the mic. I think
>>
>>>> I have a reasonalbe expectation to have a functional mic and I think
> the
>>
>>>> sellers attempts to have it both ways by stating that the mic works,
> but
>>
>>>> "if it doesn't", anyone who buys it is screwed. IMO, a seller has to
>>
>>>> responsibility to have his products serviced and confirmed to be in
>>>> good
>>
>>>> working order, or be willing abide by the rules of the game if he
>>>> accepts Payment by PayPal. that's part of the beauty of PayPal..Seller
>>
>>>> gets his money immediately.....buyer has recourse if he gets crapped
> on.
>>
>>>> Am I being an asshole here?
>>>>
>>>>
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>Ahhh, from what you are describing, I think a fuzz is the right direction
too. Barber has a fuzz in the prototype stage and is working on the
production version. Might be worth an email to ask him about it.
He sure builds nice stuff.
People seem to like these:
http://www.analogman.com/fuzzface.htm
Here's some more opinions:
http://www.thegearpage.net/board/showthread.php?t=264861& ;highlight=fuzz
DC
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