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Some cool stuff from Musikmesse [message #82327]

Fri, 30 March 2007 00:28

excelav

Messages: 2130
Registered: July 2005
Location: Metro Detroit

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Re: Some cool stuff from Musikmesse [message #82334 is a reply to message #82327]

Fri, 30 March 2007 02:31

rick

Messages: 1976
Registered: February 2006

Senior Member

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Re: Some cool stuff from Musikmesse [message #82343 is a reply to message #82327]

Fri, 30 March 2007 06:55

Chris Ludwig

Messages: 868
Registered: May 2006

Senior Member

l be experimenting today for sure.
>>>Tom
>>>
>>>After the Beatle Juice show I guess.
>>> "Dimitrios" <musurgio@otenetNOSP.gr> wrote in message =
>>>news:46389187$1@linux...
>>>
>>> Yeah Dj,
>>> Why not then use the simple L R outputs in patch bay where every =
>>>submix has
>>> these and route them to the related mec's out into your compressor and
>>=
>>>then
>>> back to your other mec.
>>> Is the headphone out of any quality ?
>>> You can use also the digital outs to connect to a Pulsar VINCO =
>>>compressor
>>> and then back to other mec ...
>>>
>>> Well you have to note here.
>>> the audio coming in the other submix will be delayed to the non =
>>>compressed
>>> drumtracks... what will you do ?
>>> You can of course record it and then nudge or better use Faderworks...
>>>
>>> Ok so now you are tempted to come back to Paris or not ??
>>> We are waiting for you...
>>> Regards,
>>> Dimitrios
>>>
>>> "DJ" <www.aarrrrggghhh!!!.com> wrote:
>>> >Heheh!!! parallel compression in Paris through a headphone out. =
>>>Whoda'
>>>
>>> >thunk? Can't beliefve I never tried this when I was running 4 x =
>>>MECs. Just
>>>
>>> >use a card and separate MEC for drum submixes, grab yourself an =
>>>insert=20
>>> >cable, route the headphone out to a stereo compressor (maybe =
>>>sidechain
>>> to=20
>>> >an EQ to hipass the LF a little.............or maybe not) and return
>>=
>>>them
>>> to=20
>>> >the Paris inputs on a channel pair on a different MEC and you're =
>>>there.
>>>
>>> >Damn!!!....how simple is this?
>>> >
>>> >;o)
>>> >
>>> >"Dimitrios" <musurgio@otenetNOSPAM.gr> wrote in message=20
>>> >news:463853fb$1@linux...
>>> >>
>>> >> Dear Tom,
>>> >> ALSO L and R on each submix except for submix1 outputs only the
>=
>>>related
>>> >> submix so you can send it to a mec's out (24bit if you like) and
=
>>>then
>>> out
>>> >> to your compressor.
>>> >> Regards,
>>> >> Dimitrios
>>> >>
>>> >> "Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote:
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>>Dimitrios are you serious?!?! It outputs the submix only on Cards
>>=
>>>B,
>>> C,
>>> >> =3D
>>> >>>D, E ???
>>> >>>I will be summing my drums and guitars from now on 20bit out of the
>>=
>>>=3D
>>> >>>phones jack to my
>>> >>>outboard comps for sure!!!!!! Sweeeeeet! How come I never tried
>=
>>>it?
>>> >>>
>>> >>>I'm a dope,
>>> >>>Tom
>>> >>>
>>>

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Re: Some cool stuff from Musikmesse [message #82346 is a reply to message #82343]

Fri, 30 March 2007 07:38

Deej [4]

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Registered: January 2007

Senior Member

gt;>Dimitrios,
>>> >>> >>>>You should only get the phone out active on the Submix A =
>>>Master
>>> =3D
>>> >>>MEC.
>>> >>> >>>>At least that's been my understanding. =3D3D20
>>> >>> >>>>Tom
>>> >>> >>>>
>>> >>> >>>> "Dimitrios" <musurgio@NOSPAMotenet.gr> wrote in message =
>>>=3D3D
>>> >>> >>>>news:46377aa5$1@linux...
>>> >>> >>>>
>>> >>> >>>> Well first time I tried I get no signal whatsoever on any
>=
>>>=3D
>>> >>>headphone
>>> >>> =3D3D
>>> >>> >>>>out on
>>> >>> >>>> any of the three mecs I have !!
>>> >>> >>>> Is this a known bug again ??
>>> >>> >>>> Thanks
>>> >>> >>>> Dimitrios
>>> >>> >>>>
>>> >>> >>>>
>>> >>> >>>>I choose Polesoft Lockspam to fight spam, and you?
>>> >>> >>>>http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html
>>> >>> >>>>
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>>> >>> >>>><DIV>>>size=3D3D3D2>Dimitrios,</DIV>
>>> >>> >>>><DIV>You should only get
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>>> >>> >>>>Submix A Master MEC.</DIV>
>>> >>> >>>><DIV>At least that's been
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Re: Some cool stuff from Musikmesse [message #82366 is a reply to message #82346]

Fri, 30 March 2007 10:51

Chris Ludwig

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Re: Some cool stuff from Musikmesse [message #82368 is a reply to message #82366]

Fri, 30 March 2007 11:02

Deej [4]

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Re: Some cool stuff from Musikmesse [message #82371 is a reply to message #82368]

Fri, 30 March 2007 11:50

EK Sound

Messages: 939
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More cool stuff from Musikmesse [message #82396 is a reply to message #82327]

Fri, 30 March 2007 21:20

excelav

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