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| Re: Bootcamp 1.2 with Vista support. [message #82275 is a reply to message #82270] |
Thu, 29 March 2007 08:02   |
excelav
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gt;compressor and=20
> then<BR>back to your other mec.<BR>Is the headphone out of any quality
=
>
> ?<BR>You can use also the digital outs to connect to a Pulsar VINCO=20
> compressor<BR>and then back to other mec ...<BR><BR>Well you have to =
>note=20
> here.<BR>the audio coming in the other submix will be delayed to the =
>non=20
> compressed<BR>drumtracks... what will you do ?<BR>You can of course =
>record it=20
> and then nudge or better use Faderworks...<BR><BR>Ok so now you are =
>tempted to=20
> come back to Paris or not ??<BR>We are waiting for=20
> you...<BR>Regards,<BR>Dimitrios<BR><BR>"DJ" <<A=20
> =
>href=3D"http://www.aarrrrggghhh!!!.com">www.aarrrrggghhh!!!.com</A>>=20
> wrote:<BR>>Heheh!!! parallel compression in Paris through a =
>headphone=20
> out. Whoda'<BR><BR>>thunk? Can't beliefve I never tried =
>this =20
> when I was running 4 x MECs. Just<BR><BR>>use a card and separate =
>MEC for=20
> drum submixes, grab yourself an insert <BR>>cable, route the =
>headphone out=20
> to a stereo compressor (maybe sidechain<BR>to <BR>>an EQ to =
>hipass=20
> the LF a little.............or maybe not) and return them<BR>to =
><BR>>the=20
> Paris inputs on a channel pair on a different MEC and you're=20
> there.<BR><BR>>Damn!!!....how simple is=20
> this?<BR>><BR>>;o)<BR>><BR>>"Dimitrios" <<A=20
> =
>href=3D"mailto:musurgio@otenetNOSPAM.gr">musurgio@otenetNOSPAM.gr</A>>=
> wrote=20
> in message <BR>>news:463853fb$1@linux...<BR>>><BR>>> =
>Dear=20
> Tom,<BR>>> ALSO L and R on each submix except for =
>submix1=20
> outputs only the related<BR>>> submix so you can send it to a =
>mec's out=20
> (24bit if you like) and then<BR>out<BR>>> to your=20
> compressor.<BR>>> Regards,<BR>>> =
>Dimitrios<BR>>><BR>>>=20
> "Tom Bruhl" <<A=20
> href=3D"mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A>>=20
> wrote:<BR>>>><BR>>>><BR>>>>Dimitrios are =
>you=20
> serious?!?! It outputs the submix only on Cards =
>B,<BR>C,<BR>>>=20
> =3D<BR>>>>D, E ???<BR>>>>I will be summing my drums =
>and=20
> guitars from now on 20bit out of the =3D<BR>>>>phones jack to =
>
> my<BR>>>>outboard comps for sure!!!!!! Sweeeeeet! =
>How=20
> come I never tried it?<BR>>>><BR>>>>I'm a=20
> =
>dope,<BR>>>>Tom<BR>>>><BR>>>><BR>>>>&=
>nbsp;=20
> "Dimitrios" <<A=20
> =
>href=3D"mailto:musuNOSPAMrgio@otenet.gr">musuNOSPAMrgio@otenet.gr</A>>=
> wrote=20
> in message=20
> =
>=3D<BR>>>>news:4638281d$1@linux...<BR>>>><BR>>>&g=
>t; =20
> Hi DJ,<BR>>>> hehe I am already on that testing route =
>even with=20
> the L R outputs of<BR>=3D<BR>>>>other<BR>>>> =
>than card's=20
> a mecs...<BR>>>> Regarding the headphone outs the one =
>on mec A=20
> which is the main =
>one<BR>=3D<BR>>>>outputs<BR>>>> all=20
> submixes, the other though ! output only the related submix=20
> out<BR>so<BR>>> =3D<BR>>>>yes<BR>>>> you =
>could=20
> route it to another mec but on same mec you would get an=20
> =3D<BR>>>>infinite<BR>>>> loop of dry and =
>compressed...=20
> because the time you will bring it back<BR>>>=20
> =3D<BR>>>>on<BR>>>> same mec that will be =
>again outputed=20
> on headphones and then back =
>=3D<BR>>>>again...<BR>>>> =20
> you get the picture ,feedback.<BR>>>> Thed other mecs =
>option=20
> though will work !!<BR>>>> I don't know if you have =
>considered=20
> the other better option !!<BR>>>> The L and R outputs =
>of each=20
> mec (except for the main one) outputs ALSO<BR>>>=20
> =3D<BR>>>>the<BR>>>> submix out so you can =
>take this L=20
> and R out and send it to a pair=20
> of<BR>=3D<BR>>>>outputs<BR>>>> (digital to =
>Pulsar ??)=20
> COMPRESS it and then send it back to=20
> another<BR>=3D<BR>>>>submix.<BR>>>> For =
>latency well you=20
> know faderworks ?? !!<BR>>>> =
>Regards,<BR>>>> =20
> Dimitrios<B
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| Re: Bootcamp 1.2 with Vista support. [message #82297 is a reply to message #82275] |
Thu, 29 March 2007 12:02 |
rick
Messages: 1976
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>BR>>>> =20
> first=3D3D20<BR>>>>> time I tried I get no signal=20
> =3D<BR>>>>whatsoever on=3D20<BR>>>> any =
>headphone out=20
> =
>=3D<BR>>>>on<BR>any<BR>>>>=3D3D<BR>&g=
>t;>>>of=3D20<BR>>>> =20
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> bug=3D20<BR>>>> =20
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>=3D<BR>>>>again=3D3D20<BR>>>>>??<BR>Than=
>ks<BR>Dimitrios</B=3D<BR>>>>LOCKQUOTE><BR>>=
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>efer.html">http://www.polesoft.com/refer</A=3D<BR>>>>>=3D=
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>Ok Tom and beloved Paris users here is a nice tip regarding the L and R indivindual
submix outs...
Ok lets assume you get (DJ are you hearing ??) 6 eds cards and 5 mecs.
Each mec of the four has an output card ( or use the 20bit outs)
and the fourth has an input card (or use the 20 bit ins)
Now leave alone card one which has no mec (maybe a 442 if cannot get initialised
?) so card 2 L&R outputs from withinh patchbay are being outputted on outs
1 and 2 which are connected to the 6th eds card's Mec 1&2 analog inputs.
Are you with me so far ?
same for eds card 3 L&R outputs using analog outs 1,2 of its related mec
connected to the 6th eds card's mec 3&4 inputs.
Same for the eds card 4 --- 5&6, and 5 ----7&8.
So now you will have your 4 eds cards submix indindual stereo outputs MIXED
on a separate eds card and put there any DX or EDS effect and then the L
& R outs of the this 6th eds card will be your stereo mix output which must
be recorded to another device computer audio card whatever via the digital
mecs out.
Regards,
Dimitrios
"Dimitrios" <musurgio@otNOSPAMenet.gr> wrote:
>
>Dear Tom,
>I am not only saying but I am confirming !!
>The L and R of all submixes except for the main one outputs the related
submixes
>mix.
>You can have a 5 card Paris system where you sacrifice card 1 and use the
>four other stereo mixes thru mex digital spdif output to a card like Scope
>Pulsar and then insert on every submix your effects or outboard too.
>You will just be mixing 4 stereo tracks under Pulsar which anyway is far
>superior mixing engine than cubase nuendo and all that s..t.
>Regards,
>Dimitrios
>
>"Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote:
>>
>>
>>Dimitrios,
>>I could have sworn that I tried the L&R outs of the Mecs and never got
=
>>signal.
>>You are saying that gives you submix only data? This is crazy.
>>I'll be experimenting today for sure.
>>Tom
>>
>>After the Beatle Juice show I guess.
>> "Dimitrios" <musurgio@otenetNOSP.gr> wrote in message =
>>news:46389187$1@linux...
>>
>> Yeah Dj,
>> Why not then use the simple L R outputs in patch bay where every =
>>submix has
>> these and route them to the related mec's out into your compressor and
>=
>>then
>> back to your other mec.
>> Is the headphone out of any quality ?
>> You can use also the digital outs to connect to a Pulsar VINCO =
>>compressor
>> and then back to other mec ...
>>
>> Well you have to note here.
>> the audio coming in the other submix will be delayed to the non =
>>compressed
>> drumtracks... what will you do ?
>> You can of course record it and then nudge or better use Faderworks...
>>
>> Ok so now you are tempted to come back to Paris or not ??
>> We are waiting for you...
>> Regards,
>> Dimitrios
>>
>> "DJ" <www.aarrrrggghhh!!!.com> wrote:
>> >Heheh!!! parallel compression in Paris through a headphone out. =
>>Whoda'
>>
>> >thunk? Can't beliefve I never tried this when I was running 4 x =
>>MECs. Just
>>
>> >use a card and separate MEC for drum submixes, grab yourself an =
>>insert=20
>> >cable, route the headphone out to a stereo compressor (maybe =
>>sidechain
>> to=20
>> >an EQ to hipass the LF a little.............or maybe not) and return
>=
>>them
>> to=20
>> >the Paris inputs on a channel pair on a different MEC and you're =
>>there.
>>
>> >Damn!!!....how simple is this?
>> >
>> >;o)
>> >
>> >"Dimitrios" <musurgio@otenetNOSPAM.gr> wrote in message=20
>> >news:463853fb$1@linux...
>> >>
>> >> Dear Tom,
>> >> ALSO L and R on each submix except for submix1 outputs only the
=
>>related
>> >> submix so you can send it to a mec's out (24bit if you like) and =
>>then
>> out
>> >> to your compressor.
>> >> Regards,
>> >> Dimitrios
>> >>
>> >> "Tom Bruhl" <Report message to a moderator
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| Re: Bootcamp 1.2 with Vista support. [message #82324 is a reply to message #82297] |
Thu, 29 March 2007 22:40 |
excelav
Messages: 2130
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x will be delayed to the non=20
=3D<BR>>compressed<BR>> drumtracks... what will you do=20
?<BR>> You can of course record it and then nudge or better =
use=20
Faderworks...<BR>><BR>> Ok so now you are tempted to come =
back to=20
Paris or not ??<BR>> We are waiting for you...<BR>> =20
Regards,<BR>> Dimitrios<BR>><BR>> "DJ" <<A=20
=
href=3D"http://www.aarrrrggghhh!!!.com">www.aarrrrggghhh!!!.com</A>>=20
wrote:<BR>> >Heheh!!! parallel compression in Paris =
through a=20
headphone out. =3D<BR>>Whoda'<BR>><BR>> =
>thunk? Can't=20
beliefve I never tried this when I was running 4 x =
=3D<BR>>MECs.=20
Just<BR>><BR>> >use a card and separate MEC for drum =
submixes,=20
grab yourself an =3D<BR>>insert=3D20<BR>> >cable, route =
the=20
headphone out to a stereo compressor (maybe=20
=3D<BR>>sidechain<BR>> to=3D20<BR>> >an EQ to =
hipass the=20
LF a little.............or maybe not) and=20
return<BR>=3D<BR>>them<BR>> to=3D20<BR>> >the =
Paris inputs=20
on a channel pair on a different MEC and you're=20
=3D<BR>>there.<BR>><BR>> >Damn!!!....how simple is=20
this?<BR>> ><BR>> >;o)<BR>> =20
><BR>> >"Dimitrios" <<A=20
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href=3D"mailto:musurgio@otenetNOSPAM.gr">musurgio@otenetNOSPAM.gr</A>>=
wrote=20
in message=3D20<BR>> =
>news:463853fb$1@linux...<BR>> =20
>><BR>> >> Dear Tom,<BR>> >>=20
ALSO L and R on each submix except for submix1 outputs =
only the=20
=3D<BR>>related<BR>> >> submix so you can send it to =
a mec's=20
out (24bit if you like) and =3D<BR>>then<BR>> =
out<BR>> =20
>> to your compressor.<BR>> >> =
Regards,<BR>> =20
>> Dimitrios<BR>> >><BR>> >> "Tom =
Bruhl"=20
<<A href=3D"mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A>> =
wrote:<BR>> >>><BR>> =
>>><BR>> =20
>>>Dimitrios are you serious?!?! It outputs the submix =
only on=20
Cards<BR>=3D<BR>>B,<BR>> C,<BR>> >> =
=3D3D<BR>> =20
>>>D, E ???<BR>> >>>I will be summing my =
drums and=20
guitars from now on 20bit out of the<BR>=3D<BR>>=3D3D<BR>> =
>>>phones jack to my<BR>> >>>outboard comps =
for=20
sure!!!!!! Sweeeeeet! How come I never tried=20
=3D<BR>>it?<BR>> >>><BR>> =
>>>I'm a=20
dope,<BR>> >>>Tom<BR>> =
>>><BR>> =20
>>><BR>> >>> "Dimitrios" <<A=20
=
href=3D"mailto:musuNOSPAMrgio@otenet.gr">musuNOSPAMrgio@otenet.gr</A>>=
wrote=20
in message =3D3D<BR>> =20
>>>news:4638281d$1@linux...<BR>> =
>>><BR>> =20
>>> Hi DJ,<BR>> >>> hehe I am =
already=20
on that testing route even with the L R =
outputs<BR>=3D<BR>>of<BR>> =20
=3D3D<BR>> >>>other<BR>> >>> =
than=20
card's a mecs...<BR>> >>> Regarding the =
headphone outs=20
the one on mec A which is the main =3D<BR>>one<BR>> =20
=3D3D<BR>> >>>outputs<BR>> =
>>> all=20
submixes, the other though ! output only the related submix=20
=3D<BR>>out<BR>> so<BR>> >> =
=3D3D<BR>> =20
>>>yes<BR>> >>> you could route it to =
another=20
mec but on same mec you would get =3D<BR>>an =3D3D<BR>> =20
>>>infinite<BR>> >>> loop of dry and=20
compressed... because the time you will bring=20
it<BR>=3D<BR>>back<BR>> >> =3D3D<BR>> =20
>>>on<BR>> >>> same mec that will be =
again=20
outputed on headphones and then back<BR>=3D<BR>>=3D3D<BR>> =
>>>again...<BR>> >>> you get the =
picture=20
,feedback.<BR>> >>> Thed other mecs option =
though will=20
work !!<BR>> >>> I don't know if you have =
considered=20
the other better option !!<BR>> >>> The L and =
R=20
outputs of each mec (except for the main one)=20
outputs<BR>=3D<BR>>ALSO<BR>> >> =3D3D<BR>> =20
>>>the<BR>> >>> submix out so you can =
take=20
this L and R out and send it to a pair<BR>=3D<BR>>of<BR>> =20
=3D3D<BR>> >>>outputs<BR>> =
>>> =20
(digital to Pulsar ??) COMPRESS it and then send it back to=20
=3D<BR>>another<BR>> =3D3D<BR>> =20
>>>submix.<BR>> >>> For latency well =
you know=20
faderworks ?? !!<BR>> >>> =
Regards,<BR>> =20
>>> Dimitrios<BR>> >>><BR>> =20
>>> "DJ" <<A=20
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href=3D"http://www.aarrrrggghhh!!!.com">www.aarrrrggghhh!!!.com</A>>=20
wrote:<BR>> >>> >Are you getting the same =
signal on=20
all MECs or the mix signal on<BR>=3D<BR>>MEC<BR>> >> =
=3D3D<BR>> >>>on<BR>> >>> =20
card=3D3D20<BR>> >>> >A and just the submix =
of the=20
MEC on card B and C. If you're just<BR>=3D<BR>>=3D3D<BR>>&nbs
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| Re: Bootcamp 1.2 with Vista support. [message #82332 is a reply to message #82324] |
Fri, 30 March 2007 02:26 |
rick
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http-equiv=3D3D3DContent-Type content=3D3D3D"text/html; =
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bgColor=3D3D3D#ffffff><BR>> =
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serious?!?!<BR>=3D<BR>>It=20
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>>>submix only on Cards B, C, D, E=20
???</FONT></DIV><BR>> =
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and<BR>=3D<BR>>guitars<BR>> >> =3D3D<BR>> =20
>>>from now on=3D3D20<BR>> >>>20bit out of =
the phones=20
jack to my</FONT></DIV><BR>> =20
>>><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial =
size=3D3D3D2>outboard comps=20
for sure!!!!!!<BR>=3D<BR>>=3D3D20<BR>> =
>>>Sweeeeeet! How come=20
I never tried it?</FONT></DIV><BR>> =20
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>>> DJ,<BR>hehe I am already on that testing =
route even=20
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of=3D3D20<BR>> >>> other<BR>than card's =
a=20
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>>> A which is the main one outputs<BR>all =
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other though<BR>=3D<BR>>!<BR>> =3D3D<BR>> =20
>>>output=3D3D20<BR>> >>> only the =
related=20
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=3D<BR>>another<BR>> =3D3D<BR>> >>>mec =
but=20
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=3D<BR>>compressed...<BR>> =20
=3D3D<BR>> >>>because=3D3D20<BR>> =
>>> =20
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again<BR>=3D<BR>>=3D3D<BR>> >>>outputed =
on=3D3D20<BR>> =20
>>> headphones and then back again...<BR>you get =
the=20
picture =3D3D<BR>> =20
>>>,feedback.<BR>Thed=3D3 D20 <BR>> =
>>> =20
other mecs option though will work !!<BR>I don't know if you=20
have<BR>=3D<BR>>=3D3D<BR>> =
>>>considered=3D3D20<BR>> =20
>>> the other better option !!<BR>The L and R =
outputs of=20
each mec =3D<BR>>(except<BR>> >> =3D3D<BR>> =
>>>for the=3D3D20<BR>> >>> main one) =
outputs=20
ALSO the<BR>submix out so you can take this L =
=3D<BR>>and<BR>> =20
R<BR>> >> =3D3D<BR>> >>>out=20
and=3D3D20<BR>> >>> send it to a pair of=20
outputs<BR>(digital to Pulsar ??) COMPRESS =3D<BR>>it =
and<BR>> =20
>> =3D3D<BR>> >>>then=3D3D20<BR>> =20
>>> send it back to another submix.<BR>For =
latency well=20
you know =3D3D<BR>> >>>faderworks =
??=3D3D20<BR>> =20
>>> =20
!!<BR>Regards,<BR>Dimitrios& lt;BR><BR> "DJ"=20
<<A=3D3D20<BR>> >>> =3D3D<BR>> =20
=3D<BR>>>>>href=3D3D3D"<A=20
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href=3D'http://www.aarrrrggghhh!!!.com">www.aarrrrggghhh!!!.com</A'>http:=
//www.aarrrrggghhh!!!.com">www.aarrrrggghhh!!!.com</A </A>>>=3D=
<BR>>=3D3D20<BR>> =20
>>> wrote:<BR>>Are you getting the same signal =
on all=20
MECs or the mix<BR>=3D<BR>>=3D3D<BR>> >>>signal=20
on=3D3D20<BR>> >>> MEC on<BR>card =
<BR>>A=20
and just the submix of the MEC on card B =3D<BR>>and =
=3D3D<BR>> =20
>>>C. If=3D3D20<BR>> >>> you're just=20
getting<BR><BR>>those submixes on the card B & C=20
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>>> =20
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