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Wed, 20 December 2006 08:21

TCB
Messages: 1261
Registered: July 2007

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;chipset,
>>>>>>>>> Intel integrated graphics, Atheros wireless, Marvell NIC, generic
>>> firewire
>>>>>>>>> controller. The CD/DVD burner was the slot loading kind, so that's
>>>>slightly
>>>>>>>>> cool (unless you want to pop out the CD before the machine boots
>
>>>>>>>>> when
>>>>>>>it's
>>>>>>>>> nice to have a physical switch), but that's about the only thing
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Re: FYI nView [message #77246 is a reply to message #77241]

Wed, 20 December 2006 09:49

Chris Ludwig

Messages: 868
Registered: May 2006

Senior Member

dvertized as being
>>loaded
>
>>on the Mac? Is that as simple as everything else it does?
>>
>>;o)
>
> System stuff you can strip out but I would do some reading first.
> Language
> libraries would be first on my list. Programs, just drag them to the
> trash
> and flush the toilet. It's easy!
>
> James
>
>
>>
>>"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>news:45aacb64$1@linux...
>>>
>>> Jamie K <Meta@Dimensional.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>Heh. True, and good thing too. Don't forget to keep track of your costs
>>>
>>>>in all this, so next time we discuss which platform is actually
>>>>"cheaper" we remember to take into account all these systems you keep
>>>>building. :^)

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Re: FYI nView [message #77250 is a reply to message #77246]

Wed, 20 December 2006 11:12

TCB
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Registered: July 2007

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> wrote in message news:45aaeb8d$1@linux...
>>
>> DJ,
>> I know a web cam does'nt do audio. I'm a bit dissapointed in you.
>> I'm not trying to make the point that the Mac is a better computer,I'm

>> just
>> pointing out some things that the Macbook has that the Dell does'nt.
>> Really my response is to Thad being the PC opposite of James. You seem
to
>> forget all his talk of Debian which has nothing to do with audio. I could
>> care less
>> which laptop you use as long as you are happy with it. Sure you can build
>> a PC
>> Core duo 2 box for cheaper than a Mac,but you can't run OSX on it. If
your
>> mad
>> that Steve Jobs wont let you run OSX on a PC thats another story. All
I'm
>> saying is If you put all
>> that hatred for Steve Jobs a side you should see that owning a Mac is
not
>> a bad idea
>> seeing you have all the software available to you and switching would
be
>> painless
>> since you would not have to buy all new software. You could run Wavelab
if
>> you want as well as LOgic on the same box,what is so wrong about that?
>>
>> You see,Thad has still not address the desktop Mac which have 2 Duel core
>> Xeon
>> prosessors for $2499,try building one of them for cheaper,ask Chris Ludwig
>>
>> if he can build one with the same specs for cheaper. I like Macs because
>> like it
>> or not they have software that I use that only runs on a Mac and I can
run
>> any
>> software that runs

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Re: FYI nView [message #77254 is a reply to message #77250]

Wed, 20 December 2006 11:40

Messages: 1124
Registered: July 2005

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to
>>> gain
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>an advantage from the differences. Now they are using the same
>>>>>>>>>>CPUs
>>>>> that
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>Microsoft likes, so any advantage is going to be from design and
>>>>>>>>>>software.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>I like Apple's desktop case design. Really easy to get into and
>
>>>>>>>>>>change
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>memory, drives, etc.; quiet and cool running airflow. The laptop
>>>>>>>>>>designs
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>have varied at accessibility, sometimes compromising for thinness.
>>> For
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>example my PowerBook is easy to access for memory upgrades but not
>>> for
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>HD upgrades. That may have changed in the new ones.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>Mac laptop sales are rising, other manufacturers are copying their
>>>
>>>>>>>>>>form
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>factor, but if you ever buy one (other than overpaying for a
>>>>>>>>>>Macbook
>>>>>>for
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>someone else, and then complaining about it) I'll be amazed. Sorry
>>> you
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>had to subject yourself to working on a Mac today, but even
>>>>>>>>>>sorrier
>>>>> you
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>had to infect it with XP. ;^)
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>Cheers,
>>>>>>>>>> -Jamie
>>>>>>>>>> www.JamieKrutz.com
>>>>>>>>>>
>>

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Re: FYI nView [message #77255 is a reply to message #77254]

Wed, 20 December 2006 11:41

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Registered: July 2005

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>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>TCB wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> So, I had to set up XP on a Mac Book today. The child of an
>>>>>>>>>>> important
>>>>>>>>>person
>>>>>>>>>>> on my office had one and, surprise, most of the games a 12 year
>>> old
>>>>>>>likes
>>>>>>>>>>> to play don't have Mac versions.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> So, once and for all I can put to rest the notion that Apple
>>>>>>>>>>> hardware
>>>>>>>>>is
>>>>>>>>>>> somehow 'super special' and thus justifies the higher price.
>>>>>>>>>>> Intel
>>>>>>chipset,
>>>>>>>>>>> Intel integrated graphics, Atheros wireless, Marvell NIC,
>>>>>>>>>>> generic
>>>>> firewire
>>>>>>>>>>> controller. The CD/DVD burner was the slot loading kind, so
>>>>>>>>>>> that's
>>>>>>slightly
>>>>>>>>>>> cool (unless you want to pop out the CD before the machine boots
>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> when
>>>>>>>>>it's
>>>>>>>>>>> nice to have a physical switch), but that's about the only thing
>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> unusual
>>>>>>>>>>> about the hardware. If you were to show me the XP device list
> for
>>>>> a
>>>>>>>Mac
>>>>>>>>>Book
>>>>>>>>>>> and the same list from a Dell 640m (two of which I've also set
> up
>>>>> recently)
>>>>>>>>>>> I would have given a _slight_ preference to the Dell, mostly
>>>>>>>>>>> because
>>>>>>>>it
>>>>>>>>>uses
>>>>>>>>>>> an Intel wireless chipset that does b/g/n and bluetooth on one
>
>>>>>>>>>>> chip,
>>>>>>>>and
>>>>>>>>>>> I've had very good luck with those wireless cards. A 640m also
> has
>>>>>>a
>>>>>>>>larger
>>>>>>>>>>> screed and costs around $750.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> In better news, I wound up on modular synth dreamland for about
>>> five
>>>>>>>>hours
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