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Fruit computer final [message #74302]

Tue, 17 October 2006 11:23

TCB
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Registered: July 2007

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> I am no match for DJ when it comes to this but I am pursuing a =
>>controllable version of a monster setup.
>>
>> I have a master plan that is as simple as I can figure to pump Paris
> =
>>full of real-time processing juice. =20
>> Here it is.
>>
>> Comp #1: Paris is running very well on a XP P4 3.0 and all the =
>>goodi

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Re: Fruit computer final [message #74303 is a reply to message #74302]

Tue, 17 October 2006 11:41

Jamie K

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es. 2 active
>> ADAT cards along with 32 A-D, D-As, two SPDIFS and a
> =
>>UAD-1 stocked for good measure.
>>
>> Comp #2: Cubase Studio 4 on my new AMD 4800+ Dualcore with =
>>Creamware
>> 14 chip Pro card with 20 In/out and Delta 66 w/4 x =
>>A-D, D-As and one SPDIF in/out,=20
>> FX-Teleport Host to comp below linked by 100mbps =
>>LAN.
>>
>> Comp #3: Spare AMD 3000+ waiting for a FX-Teleport Client link to =
>>Cubase comp #2
>> via 100mbps LAN. This guy will take up the slack =
>>for the Cubase rig if need be.
>>
>> My application is for heavy use of Kontakt, multiple softsynths and
> =
>>surely Creamware plugs of all sorts. =20
>> Music styles ranging from rock, heavy synth, orchestral and =
>>sometimes in between all of those.
>>
>> My goal is to have solid/stable performance by not abusing any one =
>>computer in the network.
>> Also to maint

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Re: Fruit computer final [message #74306 is a reply to message #74303]

Tue, 17 October 2006 11:43

TCB
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Fear sells, but maybe, just
>>>>> maybe, we're better than that.
>>>>>
>>>>> and a healthy fear of a real threat will keep you alive whereas you can
>>>>> die by living in the fantasy world of an idealistic anachronism, or you
>>>>> can face reality, deal with it for the time being and have something
>>>>> left to argue over once the dust clears.
>>>> Those are two of many choices. Black and white in a multi-colored world.
>>>>
>>>> Concern and awareness are useful when focused to motivate planning and
>>>> forethought that translates into appropriate action, no dispute from me
>>>> on that. You can call that "healthy fear" if you like, at the risk of
>>>> confusing it with unhealthy fear.
>>>>
>>>> It's dangerously possible, through fear, to react with insufficient
>>>> thought and understanding, and make a bad situation worse.
>>>>
>>>> Ask a military planner. Fear is the path to panic, not the basis for
>>>> sound policy or strategy. Ask any dictator, fear is an effective way to
>>>> enslave.
>>>>
>>>> "...the only thing we have to fear is fear itself" FDR in another
>>>> context.
>>>>
>>>> At any rate, it would be inaccurate to imply that anyone who doesn't
>>>> agree with a particular course of action is blind, deaf and dumb to
>>>> potential threats. Not a true nor useful characterization. Divisive at
>>>> best. And dividing ourselves IS one

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Re: Fruit computer final [message #74310 is a reply to message #74302]

Tue, 17 October 2006 11:56

excelav

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9ea7@linux..." target="_blank">45549ea7@linux...
>> > > > What protocol/type of interface are you using for your networking?
>> > > > AA
>> > > >
>> > > > "Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote in message =
>> > > >news:45542b13$1@linux...
>> > > > Hey guys,
>> > > > I am no match for DJ when it comes to this but I am pursuing
a =
>> > > >controllable version of a monster setup.
>> > > >
>> > > > I hav

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Re: Fruit computer final [message #74311 is a reply to message #74303]

Tue, 17 October 2006 11:58

excelav

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e a master plan that is as simple as I can figure
to pump Paris
>> > > =
>> > > >full of real-time processing juice. =20
>> > > > Here it is.
>> > > >
>> > > > Comp #1: Paris is running very well on a XP P4 3.0 and
all the =
>> > > >goodies. 2 active
>> > > > ADAT cards along with 32 A-D, D-As, two
SPDIFS and
>a
>> > > =
>> > > >UAD-1 stocked for good measure.
>> > > >
>> > > > Comp #2: Cubase Studio 4 on my new AMD 4800+ Dualcore
with =
>> > > >Creamware
>> > > > 14 chip Pro card with 20 In/out and Delta
66 w/4 x
>=
>> > > >A-D, D-As and one SPDIF in/out,=20
>> > > > FX-Teleport Host to comp below linked by
100mbps =
>> > > >LAN.
>> > > >
>> > > > Comp #3: Spare AMD 3000+ waiting for a FX-Teleport Client
link to
>=
>> > > >Cubase comp #2
>> > > > via 100mbps LAN. This guy will take up
the slack =
>> > > >for the Cubase rig if ne

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Re: Fruit computer final [message #74312 is a reply to message #74306]

Tue, 17 October 2006 12:09

Jamie K

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ed be.
>> > > >
>> > > > My application is for heavy use of Kontakt, multiple softsynths
and
>> > > =
>> > > >surely Creamware plugs of all sorts. =20
>> > > > Music styles ranging from rock, heavy synth, orchestral
and =
>> > > >sometimes in between all of those.
>> > > >
>> > > > My goal is to have solid/stable performance by not abusing
any one
>=
>> > > >computer in the network.
>> > > > Also to maintain an almost unlimited amount of close to
real-time =
>> > > >processing power throughout.
>> > > >
>> > > > I am looking into Windows Remote Desktop to help with =
>> > > >monitor/keyboard assignments.
>> > > > I expect to have 4 monitors and two keyboard/mice combos
with one =
>> > > >KVM between comp 1 & 2.
>> > > > I'm about 2 monitors, a Matrox Triple Head 2 Go and Kontakt
away =
>> > > >before I'm all the way there.
>> > > >
>> > > > Anyone see anything blatantly wrong with my design? I'm
still =
>> > > >Scoping it out!
>> > > > Thanks for your input,
>> > > > Tom=20
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > > I choose Polesoft Lockspam to fight spam, and you?
>> > > > http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html
>> > > >
>> > > ><!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN">
>> > > ><HTML><HEAD>
>> > > ><META http-equiv=3DContent-Type content=3D"text/html; =
>> > > >charset=3Diso-8859-1">
>> > > ><META content=3D"MSHTML 6.00.2800.1400" name=3DGENERATOR>
>> > > ><STYLE></STYLE>
>> > > ></HEAD>
>> > > ><BODY bgColor=3D#ffffff>
>> > > ><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Aaron, </FONT></DIV>
>> > > ><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>That's the last step I'll
be =
>> > >

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Re: Fruit computer final [message #74313 is a reply to message #74306]

Tue, 17 October 2006 12:14

Tony Benson

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>taking. =20
>> > > > and I was hoping you networkers might help me</FONT></DIV>
>> > > ><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>with that. I was thinking
the =
>> > > >onboard LAN in=20
>> > > >the ASUS A8R-MVPcomp #2 would do to a </FONT></DIV>
>> > > ><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>onboard ASUS A7N8X-X LAN in
=
>> > > ></FONT><FONT face=3DArial=20
>> > > >size=3D2>comp #3. I think a crossover cable should do =
>> > > >since</FONT></DIV>
>> > > ><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I'm not on the internet with
any of my
>> > > =
>> > > >music=20
>> > > >rigs.</FONT></DIV>
>> > > ><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
>> > > ><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Aaron is there a speed/functionality
=
>> > > >issue with=20
>> > > >this? Remember 'simple' is good for me</FONT></DIV>
>> > > ><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>as long as it works.</FONT></DIV>
>> > > ><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Tom</FONT></DIV>
>> > > ><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
>> > > ><BLOCKQUOTE dir=3Dltr=20
>> > > >style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT:
5px; =
>> > > >BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
>> > > > <DIV>"Aaron Allen" <<A=20
>> > > > =
>> > > >href=3D"mailto:know-spam@not_here.dude">know-spam@not_here.dude</A>>
=
>> > > >wrote in=20
>> > > > message <A =
>> > > >href=3D"news:45549ea7@linux">news:45549ea7@linux</A>...</DIV>
>> > > > <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>What protocol/type of interface
are
>=
>> > > >you using for=20
>> > > > yo

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Re: Fruit computer final [message #74315 is a reply to message #74313]

Tue, 17 October 2006 12:10

TCB
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> > <DIV><FONT face=3DArial=20
>> > > > =
>> > > >size=3D2> &nbs=
>> > > >p; =20
>> > > > FX-Teleport Host to comp below</FONT><FONT face=3DArial=20
>> > > > size=3D2> linked by 100mbps LAN.</FONT></DIV>
>> > > > <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
>> > > > <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Comp #3: Spare AMD 3000+
=
>> > > >waiting for a=20
>> > > > FX-Teleport Client link to Cubase comp #2</FONT></DIV>
>> > > > <DIV><FONT face=3DArial=20
>> > > > =
>> > > >size=3D2> &nbs=
>> > > >p; =20
>> > > > via 100mbps LAN. This guy will take up the slack for the
=
>> > > >Cubase=20
>> > > > rig if need be.</FONT></DIV>
>> > > > <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
>> > > > <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>My application is for
heavy use of
>> > > =
>> > > >Kontakt,=20
>> > > > multiple softsynths and surely Creamware </FONT><FONT face=3DArial=20
>> > > > size=3D2>plugs of all sorts. </FONT></DIV>
>> > > > <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Music styles ranging from
rock, =
>> > > >heavy synth,=20
>> > > > orchestral and sometimes </FONT><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>in
=
>> > > >between all=20
>> > > > of those.</FONT></DIV>
>> > > > <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
>> > > > <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>My goal is to have solid/stable
=
>> > > >performance by=20
>> > > > not abusing any one computer in the network.</FONT></DIV>
>> > > > <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Also to maintain an almost
=
>> > > >unlimited amount of=20
>> > > > close to real-time processing power </FONT><FONT face=3DArial=20
>> > > > size=3D2>throughout.</FONT></DIV>
>> > > > <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
>> > > > <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I am looking into Windows
Remote =
>> > > >Desktop to=20
>> > > > help with monitor/keyboard assignments.</FONT></DIV>
>> > > > <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I expect to have 4 monitors
and two
>> > > =
>> > > >

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Re: Fruit computer final [message #74316 is a reply to message #74311]

Tue, 17 October 2006 12:19

Jamie K

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>> > > > keyboard/mice combos with one KVM between comp 1 & =
>> > > >2.</FONT></DIV>
>> > > > <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I'm about 2 monitors,
a Matrox =
>> > > >Triple Head 2 Go=20
>> > > > and Kontakt away before I'm all the way there.</FONT></DIV>
>> > > > <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
>> > > > <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Anyone see anything blatantly
wrong
>> > > =
>> > > >with my=20
>> > > > design? I'm still Scoping it out!</FONT></DIV>
>> > > > <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Thanks for your =
>> > > >input,</FONT></DIV>
>> > > > <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Tom </FONT></DIV>
>> > > > <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
>> > > > <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
>> > > > <DIV><FONT size=3D2><BR><BR>I choose Polesoft Lockspam
to fight =
>> > > >spam, and=20
>> > > > you?<BR><A=20
>> > > > =
>> > > >href=3D"http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html">http://www.polesoft.com/refer=
>> > > >.html</A> </FONT></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY>=
>> > > ></HTML>
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > >Good to hear from you oh great teacher! I'll catch you offiline.

JH

Mark McDermott wrote:
> Very nice Mr. Ho

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Re: Fruit computer final [message #74317 is a reply to message #74310]

Tue, 17 October 2006 12:24

Jamie K

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over! Say, where'd you learn all that networkin' stuff anyhow?
>
> Hope you're doing well. Drop me a note sometime.
>
> Mark
>
> Jeff hoover <jkhoover@excite.com> wrote:
>
>>Basic process (from an unmodified XP theme)
>>
>>Click start > settings >control panel
>>In the control panel, double click the "network connections" icon
>>In the new window that appears, should be something list under LAN OR
>>HIGH SPEED, usually "Local area Connection"
>>
>>Right click on that connection and choose "properties" from the drop
>>down menu.
>>
>>In the new window that appears, there is a configure button. Click on
>>it. THen click on the "advanced" tab What you will see will vary
>>depending on the Lan card and its driver. You are lookng for three
>>things in the list of parameters; link speed, duplex, and flow control.
>
>
>> Sometimes speed an duplex are c

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Re: Fruit computer final [message #74318 is a reply to message #74317]

Tue, 17 October 2006 12:21

Nil
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ombined.
>>
>>I'd get the recommendation from FX-teleport for duplex and flow control
>
>
>>settings. My recommendation is:
>>
>>Speed: 100 (or 1000 if available)
>>Duplex

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Re: Fruit computer final [message #74321 is a reply to message #74315]

Tue, 17 October 2006 12:40

Tony Benson

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>
>>>Jeff,
>>>Xp Pro on the #2 and probably XP pro on #3 or maybe Home, I havent done
>
> it yet.
>
>>>Tom
>>> "Jeff hoover" <jkhoover@excite.com> wrote in message news:4554df76@linux...
>>> What OS is on each machine?
>>>
>>> JH
>>>
>>> Tom Bruhl wrote:
>>> > Jeff,
>>> > Thanks! A step by step would be great since I've only done this a
>
> few times
>
>>> > with varying results. Sometimes it works and sometimes it doesn't.
>>> > Tom
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > "Jeff hoover" <jkhoover@excite.com> wrote in message news:4554cd42@linux...
>>> > Tom,
>>> >
>>> > Crosover cable should be fine. Just make sure on each computer
>
> you
>
>>> > force the configuration rather than let it "auto detect". You'll
>
> find
>
>>> > this by going to the network control panel. If you're using IP,
>
> you'll
>
>>> > have to manually set the ip address and make sure they're on the
>
> same
>
>>> > subnet.
>>> >
>>> > Let me know if you need a specific example.
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > Jeff
>>> >
>>> > Tom Bruhl wrote:
>>> > > Heil,
>>> > > No wireless for me. Just a crossover cable from one ethernet
>
> jack to the
>
>>next.
>>
>>> > > LAN as I understand it is the network via wired or wireless.
>>> > >
>>> > > That's about all I know except speed of the ethernet card in each
>
> computer.
>
>>> > > Tom
>>> > > "Neil" <OIUOIU@OIU.com> wrote in message news:4554a417$1@linux...
>>> > >
>>> > > Are you guys talking about WIRELESS networking of audio from
>
> one computer
>
>>> > > to another? (I'm a complete dunderhead when it comes to
>>> > > networking concepts, so pardon my ignorance.)
>>> > >
>>> > > Can you really do this?
>>> > >
>>> > > Neil
>>> > >
>>> > >
>>> > >
>>> > > "Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote:
>>> > > >
>>> > > >
>>> > > >Aaron,=20
>>> > > >That's the last step I'll be taking. and I was hoping you
>
> networkers
>
>>=
>>
>>> > > >might help me
>>> > > >with that. I was thinking the onboard LAN in the ASUS A8R-MVPcomp
>
> #2 =
>
>>> > > >would do to a=20
>>> > > >onboard ASUS A7N8X-X LAN in comp #3. I think a crossover cable
>
> should
>
>>=
>>
>>> > > >do since
>>> > > >I'm not on th

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Re: Fruit computer final [message #74322 is a reply to message #74318]

Tue, 17 October 2006 12:44

Jamie K

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e internet with any of my music rigs.
>>> > > >
>>> > > >Aaron is there a speed/functionality issue with this? Remember
>
> 'simple'
>
>>> > > =
>>> > > >is good for me
>>> > > >as long as it works.
>>> > > >Tom
>>> > > >
>>> > > > "Aaron Allen" <know-spam@not_here.dude> wrote in message
>
> =
>
>>> > > >news:45549ea7@linux...
>>> > > > What protocol/type of interface are you using for your networking?
>>> > > > AA
>>> > > >
>>> > > > "Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote in message =
>>> > > >news:45542b13$

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