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| Cubase is losing sync with Paris [message #72356] |
Wed, 13 September 2006 19:34  |
Tom Bruhl
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Paris user I thought it'd be good to ask the group to see
>>>what
>>>>>>editing servies might be available. I'm in the UK but am happy to work
>>>>remotely
>>>>>>on this (e.g. by sending files by post on DVD).
>>>>>>During a recent session, I recorded a drummer playing some drum tracks
>>>>to
>>>>>>a click (multi-tracked to 12 x 24 bit wav files). Unfortunately the
>performances
>>>>>>are not tight enough and need micro-editing, either by hand, or perhaps
>>>>>using
>>>>>>Cubase SX3's audio quantising / ProTools Beat Mapper or similar). I
>suspect
>>>>>>the former would give the best results, but since the playing is off
>>throughout
>>>>>>most of the performance, this could be rather time consuming. Sensitivity
>>>>>>will need to be paid to the groove and feel of the music, rather than
>>>a
>>>>>straight
>>>>>>100% iterative quanitze.
>>>>>>The drum parts are generally very simple. The style is hard to describe,
>>>>>>but broadly speaking it is alternative folk, but with rock / jazz /
>world
>>>>>>and other influences. Each song is under 5 minutes; and there are between
>>>>>>1 and 5 songs requiring attention.
>>>>>>I'd be gratfeul if you could let me know what services you can offer
>>that
>>>>>>might be of assistance, what your proposed working method would be
and
>>>>what
>>>>>>your rates for each of them would be, both per hour and per song. It
>>would
>>>>>>also be useful to have an idea of how long the project would take you
>>>to
>>>>>>complete (i.e. not just the working hours but estimated time to overall
>>>>>completion).
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Unfortunately the band this is for is currently unsigned and so the
>budget
>>>>>>is somewhat limited. They are, however, quite perfectionist and interested
>>>>>>in obtaining a professional product.
>>>>>>Many thanks in advance.
>>>>>>Kind regards,
>>>>>>Daniel
>>>>>>daniel_burne@yahooNOSPAM.com (just delete the no spam).
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
> http://www.forbes.com/2006/09/26/avid-technology-update-cx_r s_0926markets04.
html?partner=yahootix
>Shares of Avid Technology (nasdaq: AVID - news - people ) fell roughly 14%
in Tuesday afternoon trading, after the company, which makes editing
products for digital media, said its audio business was struggling during
the third quarter.
The reason: a sales dip of its Pro Tools HD editing software.<
Nyuk!.....nyuk!.....;o).............hosed by Apple"DJ" <notachance@net.net> wrote in message news:451adee3$1@linux...
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http://www.forbes.com/2006/09/26/avid-technology-update-cx_r s_0926markets04.
> html?partner=yahootix
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> >Shares of Avid Technology (nasdaq: AVID - news - people ) fell roughly
14%
> in Tuesday afternoon trading, after the company, which makes editing
> products for digital media, said its audio business was struggling during
> the third quarter.
>
> The reason: a sales dip of its Pro Tools HD editing software.<
>
> Nyuk!.....nyuk!.....;o).............hosed by Apple
>
Actually....not really hosed by Apple so much as hosed by bigger faster
CPU"S and Apples acquisition of Logic , but I'll bet that FCP has also taken
a huge bite out of the AVID video market as well.I don't want to bet against you. In fact, if it works out great,
I'd probably copy you.
I've been trying to figure out what to get for a new PC, and I
find the whole thing very much a drag (if I were richer, I
suppose I would get some overpriced pre-configured audio
computer).
Pro Tools has computer recommendations, and some Dell worksations are listed,
which end up being around $3500!
How many PCI slots are there? I was thinking I would want to use
the new computer for Paris as well as a native firewire setup,
but now I'm thinking to screw that. So I'd really only need
a slot for a UAD card I guess.
Can you add 1 or 2 extra hard drives?
"TCB" <nobody@ishere.com> wrote:
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>How long ago was this? I used to shy away from some 'commodity' manufacturers
>but when I look under the hood these days it looks like they're using nearly
>identical core chipsets to the ASUS and Chaintechs of the world. The differences
>are in extras, gigabit networking, Promise SATA controllers, stuff like
that.
>
>
>Maybe I'll test the theory. My old audio machine (an old Athlon box) is
in
>bad shape. I was
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| Re: Cubase is losing sync with Paris [message #72438 is a reply to message #72431] |
Fri, 15 September 2006 07:21   |
Tom Bruhl
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>> If you are mixing RME cards (or others even) and UAD-1s (then add firewire
>> audio perhaps), I wouldn't go off the shelf and expect great results -
>> motherboards are too fickle (e.g. you could get stuck with an chipset that
>> isn't going to work or a slow PCI buss, unless you go PCI-E, then it could
>> be a toss up until you test it in practice). Otherwise, TI firewire, DDR2,
>> SATA, etc should be fine, unless you go SATA raid.... (may work fine in
>> typical data storage, but with audio chipsets can be problematic if you
> run
>> really high track counts).
>>
>> Dedric
>>
>> On 9/26/06 11:49 AM, in article 45196819$1@linux, "TCB" <nobody@ishere.com>
>> wrote:
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>>>
>>> Total crap. That's why I run a few hundred thousand dollars of Dell gear
> for
>>> a living at work,
>>>
>>> It's an integrated nVidia AMD chipset, I'll bet you hash brownies to hash
>>> browns (or perl hashes) a TI firewire chip, DDR2 RAM, SATA drives. What's
>>> missing? Maybe upgrade My audio cards are firewire, I have one UAD-1 that
>>> I'll have to replace soon anyway with a PCI-E card, and I'll need it less
>>> with the native f/x.
>>>
>>> TCB
>>>
>>> "Neil" <OIUOIU@OIU.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Do you think Dell would be a good DAW PC? I understand they're
>>>> decent, but often not very robust.
>>>>
>>>> Neil
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "TCB" <nobody@ishere.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Beat this config for anything near the price.
>>>>>
>>>>> http://tinyurl.com/q7shy
>>>>>
>>>>> TCB
>>>>
>>>
>>
>fantastic!
AA
"Dimitrios" <musurgio@otenet.gr> wrote in message news:451bc037$1@linux...
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> Hi to all.
> Thats good news for us Parisians.
> Matt Craig has contacted me about his reverb and some other goodies !!!
> and
> he told me some things that are only good news.
> I will leave it up to him to decide when an what to announce.
> Happy Paris to everyone.
> Regards,
> Dimitriossounds like you may have your effect subsystem (XP) drivers set up wrong.
Uninstall (if you installed) and be VERY diligent about the paths when you
install again. Reboot after EVERY move. Uninstall, reboot. Install, reboot.
Fire up Paris.
Workin'?
AA
"JCampbell" <campbell1745@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
news:451c19d2@linux...
>I cloned my system disk using Acronis and that part was smooth. Actually,
>pretty straight forward. (I'm on XP pro Sp2).
>
> I had to re-install my Unitor8 Mkll (usb). Ok, no big deal even though
> the install process makes about as much sense
> as a monkey on crack. (Maybe I'm on crack and don't know it.)
>
> Now the good part... clicking on the Paris Pro icon causes an immediate
> shutdown and re-boot. After re-boot,
> there's one of those microshaft error boxes saying the computer has
> recovered from a serious malfunction or whatever.
>
> Before I go trying to do a complete re-install of Paris does anyone have a
> bit of advise on a possible
> alternative to a complete re-install? I'm using 1 MEC, 1 C-16, and 2
> cards, Intel Mobo & CPU. This set up has been stable for
> years. Then again I don't do much heavy editing and tracking.
>
> Thanks very much, JimThis is a multi-part message in MIME format.
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I'm ready for something new that's for sure!
Can't wait.
Tom
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fantastic!
AA
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> Hi to all.
> Thats good news for us Parisians.
> Matt Craig has contacted me about his reverb and some other goodies =
!!!=20
> and
> he told me some things that are only good news.
> I will leave it up to him to decide when an what to announce.
> Happy Paris to everyone.
> Regards,
> Dimitrios=20
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Sadly still MAC only so haven't been able to try it.
Hopefully sounds better than some of the horrible effects that come with
the Sapphire.
We got some in stock that Focusrite sent to early to us. Told them not
to bother till they had PC drivers. So we are sending them back till the
driver ship. Probably not till December now.
<
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| Re: Cubase is losing sync with Paris [message #72446 is a reply to message #72438] |
Fri, 15 September 2006 16:42  |
emarenot
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target="_blank">hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> >
>> >
>> >Was just reading a post from you Deej where you referred to Kim W as "Oh
>> >Moderating one". ;o) I assume you mean me... ;o)
>> >
>> >Kim W is also Australian, but he kindly signs off Kim W to differentiate
>> >between himself and I because I lazily simply call myself Kim. :o)
>> >
>> >I'm Kim S, was I to add an initial...
>> >
>> >Cheers,
>> >Kim.
>>
>i'm guessing there ain't a cat within 100 miles of you and your 10,000
lives.
On Fri, 29 Sep 2006 07:06:24 -0600, "DJ" <notachance@net.net> wrote:
>If I don't have whatever this is, I will die.
>
>;o)
>
>"John Macy" <spamlessjohn@johnmacy.com> wrote in message
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>> Nice--count me in for whatever...
>>
>>
>> "Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote:
>> >
>> >
>> >I'm ready for something new that's for sure!
>> >Can't wait.
>> >Tom
>> >
>> > "Aaron Allen" <know-spam@not_here.dude> wrote in message =
>> >news:451cac89$1@linux...
>> > fantastic!
>> > AA
>> >
>> > "Dimitrios" <musurgio@otenet.gr> wrote in message =
>> >news:451bc037$1@linux...
>> > >
>> > > Hi to all.
>> > > Thats good news for us Parisians.
>> > > Matt Craig has contacted me about his reverb and some other goodies
>> =
>> >!!!=20
>> > > and
>> > > he told me some things that are only good news.
>> > > I will leave it up to him to decide when an what to announce.
>> > > Happy Paris to everyone.
>> > > Regards,
>> > > Dimitrios=20
>> >
>> >
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>> ><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Can't wait.</FONT></DIV>
>> ><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Tom</FONT></DIV>
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>> > to all.<BR>> Thats good news for us Parisians.<BR>> Matt Craig =
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>> >and<BR>>=20
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>"Neil" <IOUOIU@OIU.com> wrote:
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>Chris, from what I've read about it, it's supposed to be algo's
>ported from the LiquidChannel, right? If you're a Mucusrite
>dealer, you must have tried that unit out, yes? If so, what do
>you think of that one? Sounds good? Not so good?
>
>Neil
>
Liquid Mix is not Algo based. It is convolution based. The only algorithms
are containers that hold the various impulses. Both the “container” for the
eq models and the one for compressor impulses are new as are most of the
impulse responses.
I only have a few hours playing with a friends unit in Logic. The sound quality
is approximately equivalent to a UAD-1 (IMHO). Which is quite good but not
always the same as the original. The compressors are a little disconcerting
to me. Many of the impulses are right-on but the algorithm for the container<
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