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| Re: Cubase users...your input please [message #67568 is a reply to message #67561] |
Tue, 02 May 2006 19:46   |
Dedric Terry
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mpeg preamp has totally
>>
>>>> infatuated
>>>> me. You need to try them but I will never have a sans amp again. The
>>
>>>> tone
>>>> to me is totally amateurish and not even at all plus low signal output.
>>>> How sucky is that?
>>>> John
>>>>
>>>> "justcron" <paris@hydrorecords.com> wrote:
>>>>>haha no it doesn't
>>>>>
>>>>>And Neil... I dont think thats a good idear...
>>>>>
>>>>>"john" <no@no.com> wrote in message news:4472fa19$1@linux...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> sans-amp sucks. i sold mine on ebay and bought the Ampeg SVPCL for
>> $350
>>>>
>>>>>> used.
>>>>>> Awesome! The tone is EVEN and LOW where the sansamp is neither.
>>>>>> http://namm.harmony-central.com/WNAMM04/Content/Ampeg/PR/SVP CL.html
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "Neil" <OIUOIU@OIU.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>I have a bass track that this band I'm recording is happy with
>>>>>>>the sound of, but I personally think sucks... OK, maybe I
>>>>>>>should say it a different way: "They like it, but I think they
>>>>>>>might like it even better if I could improve upon it :D
>>>>>>>How's that for politically correct? lol
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Anyway, I'm thinking about reamping it or maybe Sans-amp-ing it,
>>>>>>>but here's my question: If I pick up a Bass Sansamp, I know the
>>>>>>>input isn't designed for line-level stuff, so if I run the
>>>>>>>signal out of a line-level out on my convertors, then through a
>>>>>>>mic pre that also has a line-level input and also an output
>>>>>>>level control (of which I have a few), can I just feed a very
>>>>>>>low level out of the preamp into the Sansamp input, or will I
>>>>>>>run into impedance issues with this method?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Reamping's no problem - I can easily rig that up, so if this
>>>>>>>other option doesn't work, I can always fall back on that, but
>>>>>>>for another choice, would a Sansamp box work in this instance?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Problem is "Farty distortion", BTW. It may take a re-tracking
>>>>>>>with a better input chain than the bass player's Carvin head
>>>>>>>line-out jack, but I want to at least investigate other options
>>>>>>>first. Worst bass sound I ever permitted to go to track... how's
>>>>>>>that for an achievement? lol Totally my fault, though -
>>>>>>>despite the band insisting they liked it, I should have at
>>>
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| Re: Cubase users...your input please [message #67569 is a reply to message #67568] |
Tue, 02 May 2006 20:33 |
Deej [1]
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>>>>least taken a direct feed though a preamp or direct box on
>>>>>>>another channel, as well.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Neil
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>
>Gwar wannabees
dcn
"jef knight" <thestudio@allknightmusic.com> wrote in message
news:4473a919@linux...
> I'm sorry, I take that back.....just having watched a bunch of the other
> vid's I can see why they won....what a bunch of tossers....
>
> jef knight wrote:
>
>> here's the mooks that swept EuroVision.....
>>
>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qWqtOOiH6CY&feature=Views &page=1&t=t&f=b
>> < http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qWqtOOiH6CY&feature=Views &page=1&t=t&f=b>
>>
>> sorry for the denigration but if this is "it" then "it" is all over.....
>>
>> "get my buryin' shovel..." Ned Flanders
>>
>>
>> DC wrote:
>>
>>> Yeow!
>>>
>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=njDtlnNkjko&search=dragon force
>>>Maybe it's just me but does anyone else thing the whole groove i.e. what the
drummer is playing, is all wrong for that song
death metal meets 80's hair band...doesn't work for me
Don
"DC" <dc@shreddersinhell.org> wrote in message news:4473679f$1@linux...
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> Yeow!
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=njDtlnNkjko&search=dragon forceAVG is roughly on par with AntiVir, and is a similar licensing scheme. They
have a free (as in beer) version and a pay version. Clamwin is actually free
(as in libre or speech) software, source code and all. I'd say all three
work at least as well as the pay software and I'd take any one over Norton.
TCB
jef knight <thestudio@allknightmusic.com> wrote:
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>hey,
>is this stuff superior to AVG?
>j
>
>TCB wrote:
>
>>Best way to deal with viruses and network attacks? Install Ubuntu on it.
BY
>>FAR the best option, though you will have to jump through some hoops for
>>some kinds of media playback.
>>
>>If you insist on paying for an inferior Microsoft operating sytem, as an
>>alternative to Norton I suggest AntiVir or Clamwin. AntiVir is free as
in
>>beer, Clamwin free as in beer and free as in speech (it's GPL'd). The downside
>>is that Clamwin doesn't include a real time scanner--you have to tell it
>>to scan something. I think the XP firewall is pretty decent, I use it on
>>my machines but I also have my own firewall built into my home router.
I
>>think Zonealarm mostly just scares people.
>>
>>But try Ubuntu, after a little bit of kicking around you'll be thrilled
you
>>did.
>>
>>TCB
>>
>>"Rod Lincoln" <rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com> wrote:
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>>
>>>Here's the deal. I've been running Norton Systemworks 2002 on my internet
>>>comp, renewing the antivirus subscription every year. My subscription
ran
>>>out yesterday and upon trying to renew it, I was informed it was no longer
>>>supported, and I had to upgrade to whatever 2006. Since I've read some
of
>>>you are down on Norton, I thought I'd ask for opinions on what to switch
>>>to. Sooooo....what do you guys like?
>>>
>>>I don't use the norton firewall. I use the free Zone Alarm one.
>>>I kind of like the system tune up thing that Norton did. I don't think
I've
>>>had a crash...ever, on this comp.
>>>Rod
>>>
>>>
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>>
>>
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>hey,<br>
>is this stuff superior to AVG?<br>
>j<br>
><br>
>TCB wrote:
><blockquote cite="mid44737517$1@linux" type="cite">
> <pre wrap="">Best way to deal with viruses and network attacks? Install
Ubuntu on
>it. BY
>FAR the best option, though you will have to jump through some hoops for
>some kinds of media playback.
>
>If you insist on paying for an inferior Microsoft operating sytem, as an
>alternative to Norton I
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| Re: Cubase users...your input please [message #67570 is a reply to message #67569] |
Tue, 02 May 2006 20:59 |
Dedric Terry
Messages: 788
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suggest AntiVir or Clamwin. AntiVir is free as in
>beer, Clamwin free as in beer and free as in speech (it's GPL'd). The downside
>is that Clamwin doesn't include a real time scanner--you have to tell it
>to scan something. I think the XP firewall is pretty decent, I use it on
>my machines but I also have my own firewall built into my home router. I
>think Zonealarm mostly just scares people.
>
>But try Ubuntu, after a little bit of kicking around you'll be thrilled
you
>did.
>
>TCB
>
>"Rod Lincoln" <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com"><rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com></a>
>wrote:
> </pre>
> <blockquote type="cite">
> <pre wrap="">Here's the deal. I've been running Norton Systemworks 2002
on my internet
>comp, renewing the antivirus subscription every year. My subscription ran
>out yesterday and upon trying to renew it, I was informed it was no longer
>supported, and I had to upgrade to whatever 2006. Since I've read some of
>you are down on Norton, I thought I'd ask for opinions on what to switch
>to. Sooooo....what do you guys like?
>
>I don't use the norton firewall. I use the free Zone Alarm one.
>I kind of like the system tune up thing that Norton did. I don't think I've
>had a crash...ever, on this comp.
>Rod
> </pre>
> </blockquote>
> <pre wrap=""><!---->
> </pre>
></blockquote>
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>Not sure how much he spent on the head, but I'm tending to think
there might be something wrong with it, or perhaps with his
bass (active electronics), considering the type of distortion
I'm dealing with on these tracks. FWIW I've recorded a Carvin
bass head once before, albeit mic'ed through a cabinet, and I
Seem to recall it being a different model head, and it
sounded great, so I don't think they necessarily all suck.
BTW thanks for your offer on trying to do something with the
tracks, but they're at 88.2k, so you couldn't do anything with
it via Paris, and also there are a couple of edits here & there
that I haven't finalized/rendered on two of the songs, both of
which I'm referring to have full-song edits for timing purposes
between one section & another, so it'd be a mess for you with
all the various file pieces therein.
I'll figure it out, and if I come up with some amazing magic
bullet that saves these tracks withut having to re-record, I'll
let you guys know for the sake of future reference.
Neil
"Cujo" <chris@nospamapplemanstudio.com> wrote:
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>I bet he spent a boatload on that Carvin too, I faced a band with a Carvin
>a few years ago, and all the bass player told me was how much he spent on
>it.
>On the other hand, I just went to practice with a band I am doing a session
>for, and thay had a Randall with a 15, I almost liked it better than my
SVT,
>much more clear "note" and still plenty of low end.
>
>
>"Cujo" <chris@nospamapplemanstudio.com> wrote:
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>>
>>I wonder what my Germainuim could do to it.
>>Wanna send me just the track?
>>
>>
>>"Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>Neil,
>>>Sounds like the part already sounds blatty. You may have to
>>>rerecord as you suggested. I have great results using
>>>a combination of a fat but clean DI track with Amplitube along side it.
>>>Tom
>>>
>>>
>>> "Neil" <OIUOIU@OIU.com> wrote in message news:44729718$1@linux...
>>>
>>> I have a bass track that this band I'm recording is happy with
>>> the sound of, but I personally think sucks... OK, maybe I
>>> should say it a different way: "They like it, but I think they
>>> might like it even better if I could improve upon it :D
>>> How's that for politically correct? lol
>>>
>>> Anyway, I'm thinking about reamping it or maybe Sans-amp-ing it,
>>> but here's my question: If I pick up a Bass Sansamp, I know the
>>> input isn't designed for line-level stuff, so if I run the
>>> signal out of a line-level out on my convertors, then through a
>>> mic pre that also has a line-level input and also an output=20
>>> level control (of which I have a few), can I just feed a very
>>> low level out of the preamp into the Sansamp input, or will I
>>> run into impedance issues with this method?
>>>
>>> Reamping's no problem - I can easily rig that up, so if this
>>> other option doesn't work, I can always fall back on that, but
>>> for another choice, would a Sansamp box work in this instance?
>>>
>>> Problem is "Farty distortion", BTW. It may take a re-tracking
>>> with a better input chain than the bass player's Carvin head
>>> line-out jack, but I want to at least investigate other options
>>> first. Worst bass sound I ever permitted to go to track... how's
>>> that for an achievement? lol Totally my fault, though -
>>> despite the band insisting they liked it, I should have at
>>> least taken a direct feed though a preamp or direct box on
>>> another channel, as well.
>>>
>>> Neil
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>I choose Polesoft Lockspam to fight spam, and you?
>>>http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html
>>>
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>>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Neil,</FONT></DIV>
>>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Sounds like the part already sounds =
>>>blatty. =20
>>>You may have to</FONT></DIV>
>>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>rerecord as you suggested. I have =
>>>great=20
>>>results using</FONT></DIV>
>>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>a combination of a fat but clean DI =
>>>track with=20
>>>Amplitube along side it.</FONT></DIV>
>>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Tom</FONT></DIV>
>>><D
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| Re: Cubase users...your input please [message #67572 is a reply to message #67570] |
Tue, 02 May 2006 21:31 |
Deej [1]
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t;>> re-tracking<BR>with a better input chain than the bass player's Carvin
>>=
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>>> head<BR>line-out jack, but I want to at least investigate other=20
>>> options<BR>first. Worst bass sound I ever permitted to go to track...=20
>>> how's<BR>that for an achievement? lol Totally =
>>>my=20
>>> fault, though -<BR>despite the band insisting they liked it, I should
>>=
>>>have=20
>>> at<BR>least taken a direct feed though a preamp or direct box =
>>>on<BR>another=20
>>> channel, as well.<BR><BR>Neil<BR><BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
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>>>
>>>"Cujo" <chris@nospamapplemanstudio.com> wrote:
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>has anyone watched that UAD movie for the NEVE EQ?
>I love what it does to that snare, anyons compared it to the paris EQ? I
>never get that snap with it., Is it the same latency as the other UAD stuff?
That's ironic that you say you never get that snap, because Matt
Craig's Paris VST EQ is the one I prefer for kick & snare over
the SX EQ or for that matter, any other EQ plugin I have.
NeilWhat was that place to get good snakes? hotwires.com or something like that?
Thanks
JohnI was thinking of trying the exact type of EQ appraoch the guy does in the
movie, and checking it out, I know it is not the way to do things, but, I
wnated to see if it is close.
"Neil" <OIUOIU@OIU.com> wrote:
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>"Cujo" <chris@nospamapplemanstudio.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>has anyone watched that UAD movie for the NEVE EQ?
>>I love what it does to that snare, anyons compared it to the paris EQ?
I
>>never get that snap with it., Is it the same latency as the other UAD stuff?
>
>That's ironic that you say you never get that snap, because Matt
>Craig's Paris VST EQ is the one I prefer for kick & snare over
>the SX EQ or for that matter, any other EQ plugin I have.
>
>Neil
>"john" <no@no.com> wrote:
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>What was that place to get good snakes?
http://www.reptileauctions.com/categories.php?parent=1884www.hotwiredcables.com
"john" <no@no.com> wrote in message news:4474638a@linux...
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> What was that place to get good snakes? hotwires.com or something like
that?
>
> Thanks
> JohnDid anyone see that last nite? (of course ya did)
I watched it because there was literally nothing else on, and I gotta say it
was pretty damn good. Obviously I dont really follow country music, but I
have always loved Reba and Martina McBride.
I thought the Rascal Flatts / American Idol song kicked some serious ass so
I downloaded the whole album. Good stuff.
That song "Backwards" is frikkin helarious.Hey John,
If I get one of these Ampeg doohickeys, can I put it in a rack between two
other tube preamps and catch my studio on fire? I've got an old B15N here
that can heat the whole studio in about 15 minutes.
;oD
"john" <no@no.com> wrote in message news:4472fa19$1@linux...
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> sans-amp sucks. i sold mine on ebay and bought the Ampeg SVPCL for $350
used.
> Awesome! The tone is EVEN and LOW where the sansamp is neither.
> http://namm.harmony-central.com/WNAMM04/Content/Ampeg/PR/SVP CL.html
>
>
>
> "Neil" <OIUOIU@OIU.com> wrote:
> >
> >I have a bass track that this band I'm recording is happy with
> >the sound of, but I personally think sucks... OK, maybe I
> >should say it a different way: "They like it, but I think they
> >might like it even better if I could improve upon it :D
> >How's that for politically correct? lol
> >
> >Anyway, I'm thinking about reamping it or maybe Sans-amp-ing it,
> >but here's my question: If I pick up a Bass Sansamp, I know the
> >input isn't designed for line-level stuff, so if I run the
> >signal out of a line-level out on my convertors, then through a
> >mic pre that also has a line-level input and also an output
> >level control (of which I have a few), can I just feed a very
> >low level out of the preamp into the Sansamp input, or will I
> >run into impedance issues with this method?
> >
> >Reamping's no problem - I can easily rig that up, so if this
> >other option doesn't work, I can always fall back on that, but
> >for another choice, would a Sansamp box work in this instance?
> >
> >Problem is "Farty distortion", BTW. It may take a re-tracking
> >with a better input chain than the bass player's Carvin head
> >line-out jack, but I want to at least investigate other options
> >first. Worst bass sound I ever permitted to go to track... how's
> >that for an achievement? lol Totally my fault, though -
> >despite the band insisting they liked it, I should have at
> >least taken a direct feed though a preamp or direct box on
> >another channel, as well.
> >
> >Neil
> >
> >
>"Sarah" <sarahjane@sarahtonin.com> wrote:
>Yes, the Dangerous Mind who "confessed" to being a CIA hit man. I hope
it's
>true. :)
>
>Sarah
>
>
I always suspected that Chuck “took out” The Unknown Comic.
geneJohn,
please dont post about DJ's snake in public :P
:)
"john" <no@no.com> wrote in message news:4474638a@linux...
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> What was that place to get good snakes? hotwires.com or something like
> that?
>
> Thanks
> JohnI just ordered one of these from MF. I want to A/B it against my *go to*
bass DI which is an Avalon 737. I'm gonna give it 45 days to infatuate me.
;o)
"john" <no@no.com> wrote in message news:44735027$1@linux...
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> Ymmv but my sansamp was crap tonewise and this Ampeg preamp has totally
infatuated
> me. You need to try them but I will never have a sans amp again. The
tone
> to me is totally amateurish and not even at all plus low signal output.
> How sucky is that?
> John
>
> "justcron" <paris@hydrorecords.com> wrote:
> >haha no it doesn't
> >
> >And Neil... I dont think thats a good idear...
> >
> >"john" <no@no.com> wrote in message news:4472fa19$1@linux...
> >>
> >> sans-amp sucks. i sold mine on ebay and bought the Ampeg SVPCL for
$350
>
> >> used.
> >> Awesome! The tone is EVEN and LOW where the sansamp is neither.
> >> http://namm.harmony-central.com/WNAMM04/Content/Ampeg/PR/SVP CL.html
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> "Neil" <OIUOIU@OIU.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>I have a bass track that this band I'm recording is happy with
> >>>the sound of, but I personally think sucks... OK, m
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| Re: Cubase users...your input please [message #67575 is a reply to message #67572] |
Tue, 02 May 2006 22:41 |
Dedric Terry
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ave left is the tooth faery...thanks...;o(
On 25 May 2006 01:58:12 +1000, "gene lennon"
<glennon@NOSPmyrealbox.com> wrote:
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>"Sarah" <sarahjane@sarahtonin.com> wrote:
>>Yes, the Dangerous Mind who "confessed" to being a CIA hit man. I hope
>it's
>>true. :)
>>
>>Sarah
>>
>>
>I always suspected that Chuck “took out” The Unknown Comic.
>geneas opposed the garden variety one???
On 24 May 2006 21:25:40 +1000, "John" <no@no.com> wrote:
>
>I promise you if you hear my Ampeg VST preamp you'll say the sansamp sucks
>for tone. I think I'm becoming a gear slut!
>
>"justcron" <paris@hydrorecords.com> wrote:
>>That proves any tool can be worth it.
>>
>>The SansAmp doesn't suck for tone.. it just needs a little EQ :)
>>
>>"Cujo" <chris@nospamapplemanstudio.com> wrote in message
>>news:4473d21e$1@linux...
>>>
>>>
>>> I use the Pod a lot. I only have 7 "High end" mic pre's and 3 other
>>> channels
>>> of "prosumer" so I use them for drums when tracking, and often use the
>pod
>>> to record a scratch. Then replace it. I hear the Brick is cool. I may
>need
>>> to try one
>>>
>>>
>>> "justcron" <paris@hydrorecords.com> wrote:
>>>>No I hear ya John... I like a bunch of the different ones, I just dont
>>>
>>>>personally think the sansamp 'sucks' but I respect your opinion. the
>
>>>>only
>>>
>>>>one that I've found that really does suck is the POD, but then some people
>>>
>>>>like that too.
>>>>
>>>>"john" <no@no.com> wrote in message news:44735027$Report message to a moderator
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