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Deej is currently offline  Deej
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e handicapped voters I have heard speak about
this do NOT like being used to promote poor systems. They want secure,
accurate, voter-verifiably systems, too. It doesn't have to be one or
the other.

Where I live, the county uses touchscreen voting systems with no paper
trail. I have no idea if my vote is registering accurately or being
counted at all. I testified about this in the state leg. We made some
progress in Colorado but much more needs to be done.

Cheers,
-Jamie
http://www.JamieKrutz.c
Re: ISP cluster**** [message #63369 is a reply to message #63367] Thu, 19 January 2006 01:25 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Kim is currently offline  Kim
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r /> > to
>>>>>> listen
>>>>>>> to this in my wife's car, and she has a REAL good CD player, and it
>>>>> won't
>>>>>>> play".
>>>>>>> To which I say....."It's a DATA CD"
>>>>>>> "Oh....it's a data CD?"
>>>>>>> "Yes, whould you like an audio CD so you can play it for your wife?"
>>>>>>> "Yes, maybe that's a good idea"
>>>>>>> So he came right back and I burnt an audio CD for him.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The things you have to put up with sometimes.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Rod
>>>>>>>
>
Re: ISP cluster**** [message #63373 is a reply to message #63369] Thu, 19 January 2006 02:09 Go to previous messageGo to next message
rick is currently offline  rick   UNITED STATES
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gt;>> A couple of days ago I did some tracks for a client and burnt a
>>> CD-Rom
>>>>>>>> containing
>>>>>>>>> wave files for him to take to another studio to do some other
> work.
>>> It
>>>>>>> was
>>>>>>>>> labled "Data CD".
>>>>>>>>> I explained how all the files were perfectly synced so the
> protools
>>>>> guy
>>>>>>>> could
>>>>>>>>> drag them in to his session.
>>>>>>>>> Five minutes after he left my house he called, saying "I just
> tried
>>> to
>>>>>>>> listen
>>>>>>>>> to this in my wife's car, and she has a REAL good CD player, and
> it
>>>>>>> won't
>>>>>>>>> play".
>>>>>>>>> To which I say....."It's a DATA CD"
>>>>>>>>> "Oh....it's a data CD?"
>>>>>>>>> "Yes, w
Re: ISP cluster**** [message #63374 is a reply to message #63373] Thu, 19 January 2006 03:36 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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hould you like an audio CD so you can play it for your
> wife?"
>>>>>>>>> "Yes, maybe that's a good idea"
>>>>>>>>> So he came right back and I burnt an audio CD for him.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> The things you have to put up with sometimes.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Rod
>>>>>>>>>
>>>
>
>http://www.scottfromcanada.com/rush-for-dummies.html

Cheers,
-Jamie
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DJ,
Ah but yes, if there's a Magma PCI-E card to support
the older PCI jobbers we use. =20

Face it. You have to have one.
Tom
"DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote in message =
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PCI-E man. It's a no go for Paris and UAD-1 hardware, I think.

"Aaron Allen" <nospam@not_here.dude> wrote in message
news:43fd3efc$1@linux...
> OH man. Deej will have to have this or he'll......
> AA
>
>
> "Mark McCurdy" <

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Re: ISP cluster**** [message #63376 is a reply to message #63374] Thu, 19 January 2006 06:40 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Deej [1] is currently offline  Deej [1]   UNITED STATES
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gt;To succeed, PARIS (in my expereince) needs:
>>>
>>>lots of power - true power 550 PS for me. 450 wasn't enough.
>>>
>>>lots of cooling - I cut a hole in the side of my cases and mount a fan to
>>>blow air away from the PARIS cards. No more clicks or freezing here -
>>>ever.
>>> It's not that hard to do, either. I just use a drill to make multiple
>>>"punches"
>>>in a circle and cut out what's left with some snips. Then, I drill the
>>>mounting
>>>holes and mount the fan. Voila. I also leave an empty PCI space between
>>>my cards to allow more air to get around them. They need it.
>>>
>>>No bad DX plugs. Try running with DX disabled - if it's stable, you know
>>>that a bad DX plug is the problem.
>>>
>>>No hyperthreading/dual CPUS - this is a rule I'm breaking successfully.
>>>Go figure.
>>>
>>>Non-defective cards - I'm suspicious that this is your problem. If
>>>you've
>>>tried the card(s) in another computer with a clean install and all the
>>>afore
>>>mentioned requirements (especially the cooling one) were met, you
>>>probably
>>>have a defective/dammaged card. At least they are cheap these days.
>>>
>>>I hope this helps, John. It's working for me.
>>>
>>>Good luck!
>>>
>>>Mike
>>>"chuck" <chuck@chuck.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>In my experience a PARIS.CFG file works well on exactly one system, the
>>>
>>>system
>>>
>>>
>>>>it works well on :-)
>>>>
>>>>If your system doesn't work well, it's better to post what's wrong than
>>>
>>>trying
>>>
>>>
>>>>to fix it with someone elses config.
>>>>
>>>>Chuck
>>>>
>>>>"Aaron Allen" <nospam@not_here.dude> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>Would be wise to post PC system specs, how many tracks are typic
Re: ISP cluster**** [message #63378 is a reply to message #63376] Thu, 19 January 2006 06:57 Go to previous messageGo to next message
John [1] is currently offline  John [1]   UNITED STATES
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> Ah but yes, if there's a Magma PCI-E card to support
> the older PCI jobbers we use. =20
>
> Face it. You have to have one.
> Tom
> "DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote in message =
>news:43fd4eb5@linux...
> PCI-E man. It's a no go for Paris and UAD-1 hardware, I think.
>
> "Aaron Allen" <nospam@not_here.dude> wrote in message
> news:43fd3efc$1@linux...
> > OH man. Deej will have to have this or he'll......
> > AA
> >
> >
> > "Mark McCurdy" <mark@mccurdy.net> wrote in message
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Re: ISP cluster**** [message #63381 is a reply to message #63374] Thu, 19 January 2006 08:05 Go to previous messageGo to next message
rick is currently offline  rick   UNITED STATES
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>The cool part is that you don't have 4 thick cables for the monitors, plus
extra cables for keyboard / mouse / USB stuff running between the machine
room and your editing space. Instead you have one nice light fiber optic -
without the (same) length limitations!

Plus, you have one video driver to work with. (Speaking from experience of
setting up AGP + PCI card - twas tricky).

-Rohde

"Dominic" <BERTSTUDIO@aol.com> wrote in message news:43fdc711$1@linux...
>
> Whats so great about this set up?
> Ive been running 4 monitors with PARIS for years.
> As a matter of fact I just hooked up a 30" plasma on one monitor. Gives me
> tons of landscape
>
> D
Re: ISP cluster**** [message #63384 is a reply to message #63381] Thu, 19 January 2006 09:26 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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t;> "DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote in message =
>>news:43fd4eb5@linux...
>> PCI-E man. It's a no go for Paris and UAD-1 hardware, I think.
>>
>> "Aaron Allen" <nospam@not_here.dude> wrote in message
>> news:43fd3efc$1@linux...
>> > OH man. Deej will have to have this or he'll......
>> > AA
>> >
>> >
>> > "Mark McCurdy" <mark@mccurdy.net> wrote in message
>> news:43fccd92$1@linux...
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Re: ISP cluster**** [message #63385 is a reply to message #63381] Thu, 19 January 2006 08:11 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Deej [1] is currently offline  Deej [1]   UNITED STATES
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Re: ISP cluster**** [message #63419 is a reply to message #63384] Thu, 19 January 2006 14:44 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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ut once those
were tamed it all worked OK and I could hear the vocals and instruments
with no other monitors.

Except that I did bring a little powered Galaxy monitor just for my
guitar/violin as insurance, and I had it on a mic stand next to me.
Having never played through the PAS before I wanted to be sure I would
be able to hear my instruments. Probably won't bother with the Galaxy
next time, if we use that system again.

Hearing other acts, the sound was OK out front. On the side I could hear
more of the nearest PAS than the other two, pretty much like I would
expect.

Based on that one experience
Re: ISP cluster**** [message #63422 is a reply to message #63376] Thu, 19 January 2006 14:50 Go to previous message
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o card(s) for a four monitor setup

DOn


"Don Nafe" <dnafe@magma.ca> wrote in message news:44005187@linux...
> Hi all
>
> I have a couple of projects coming up that are going to be using huge
> track counts in the beginning stages and although virtual tracks are nice
> they really are a PITA.
>
> So the question is - for a four EDS Card set up is their a MB / CPU
> combination out there that works with paris that would allow the addition
> of a UAD1 card (making five slots total) or should I start looking at a
> magma chassis for this setup?
>
>
> Don
>"steve the artguy" <artguy@somethingorother.net> wrote:
>
>"Steve" <stevec1@charter.net> wrote:
>>
>>Is there a Paris 4 coming out? is there info on it?
>>Steve
>
>Steve-
>
>i'm tempted to say, yeah, it's out, but there's no info on it, 'cause it
>won't record any info... but enought jokin.
>
>those other guys are a' pullin' yer leg. Ain't no Paris 4 now, ain't gonna
>be no Paris 4 later.
>
>Them other guys may have been jokin' with you 'cause they thought you was
>me.
>
>Give guys named Steve a break, guys....!
>
>-steve the artguy
Thanks Steve the art guy!Hi Don,
I would get a magma no matter what setup you use if you are doing a 4
card system.
If you can still find them the Gigabyte K8ns Ultra 939 (NForce 3
chipset) and the ASUS A8V (not deluxe) (VIA 800 chipset).
They are all AGP with 5 PCI slots. YOu would have to do one of those
Matrox AGP/PCI video card combos methods to get 4 monitors. Honestly I
would say stick with 3 monitors using the Matrox P750. Allot less
variables and resource issues going on that way.
I would avoid dual core cpus unless you are doing Cubase VST stuff on
the same machine. The Athlon 64 4000+ or one of the FX series would be
the best for number crunching a bunch of Waves plug ins. YOu also will
reduce issues with the UAD and Paris not having a dual CPU setup.

For more current motherboard with PCI-E the best one I've tried is the
ASUS A8R-MVP but like all new board they have at most 3 PCI slots.
Try to avoid Nforce 4 chipsets if you are using UAD and TC power core.
The N4 chipset in general kicks ass if you are doing native only.

Also try to avoid boards with to many convenient on board stuff. You
will probably have to disable them anyways. Silicon Image SATA
controller work nice on DAWS but the Promise SATA suck ass just disable
from the get go. Most all the on board nics work great.


MOst all the new board do behave as soon as you start to put more than 3
PCI cards int he machine. Trying to put in 4 EDS cards would be hit or
miss. The Magma 13 slot is the best one to get because
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