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A question about cumulative quantization noise/dither [message #58061] Sat, 10 September 2005 10:56 Go to next message
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Re: A question about cumulative quantization noise/dither [message #58062 is a reply to message #58061] Sat, 10 September 2005 11:12 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Re: A question about cumulative quantization noise/dither [message #58063 is a reply to message #58062] Sat, 10 September 2005 11:29 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Here's mine.

Yamaha UD Stomp. 8 delays, all programmable, in one box.

This thing does sounds you cannot believe. Allan Holdsworth
programmed a bunch of the sounds and they are terrific.

Without a doubt, the best delay ever made. Everything from the
exact doubling you were looking for, to the coolest flange to the
widest chorus to the most amazing volume swells anywhere. True stereo,
with simple pan controls for each delay line. You can setup
most any delay effect you can imagine and still have a couple of
delay lines left over.

They were originally around 700.00 USD. Being a pedal, it was a
hard sell, and they almost immediately went out of production.

I got mine for 198.00 from Musician's Fiend (errr, friend) and wish
I had bought 3. I would not sell it for 2K.

You can still catch Allan bidding for more of these on eBay. He uses
2 live. They are already climbing back to the 300 range and I
expect they will go higher.

DC
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Re: A question about cumulative quantization noise/dither [message #58064 is a reply to message #58063] Sat, 10 September 2005 11:36 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Re: A question about cumulative quantization noise/dither [message #58065 is a reply to message #58061] Sat, 10 September 2005 11:58 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Re: A question about cumulative quantization noise/dither [message #58074 is a reply to message #58073] Sat, 10 September 2005 17:35 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Re: A question about cumulative quantization noise/dither [message #58100 is a reply to message #58074] Sun, 11 September 2005 10:58 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Re: A question about cumulative quantization noise/dither [message #58129 is a reply to message #58100] Mon, 12 September 2005 06:11 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Neil is currently offline  Neil
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>of the hole can cause the positron to fall in, while the electron escapes."
>
>But when "infected" by mangled information from the black hole, the particles
>become a chaos cloud, which in turn mangles everything it touches.
>
>"If it continues unchecked, the chaos cloud will eventually reduce our galaxy
>to the state of absolute chaos that existed before the birth of the universe,&quo
Re: A question about cumulative quantization noise/dither [message #58150 is a reply to message #58129] Tue, 13 September 2005 08:23 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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>> =
REDIRECT the=20
sound on bottom of senderella.<BR>&gt; We put senderella as a send on =
each of=20
the tracks we want to use reverb.<BR>&gt; Say we have a lead vocal and =

background voices plus a solo gtr.<BR>&gt; So on all that tracks we =
put=20
senderella as above.<BR>&gt; NOW<BR>&gt; On tracks 15 and 16 you load =
your=20
EMPTY 16 bit paf file of a lenght equal<BR>or<BR>&gt; bigger than your =
actual=20
song.<BR>&gt; On first Native slot you put FFX-4 (free too) as a =
stereo=20
instance ontrack<BR>&gt; 15<BR>&gt; There
Re: A question about cumulative quantization noise/dither [message #58151 is a reply to message #58150] Tue, 13 September 2005 08:42 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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inside it you open =
senderella=20
configured now as a return again with<BR>&gt; around 50% (as a start)=20
volume.<BR>&gt; NOW you open inside FFX-4 on second slot a stereo =
reverb like=20
Waves<BR>trueverb<BR>&gt; (if you have it) or DSPFX Studioverb or the =
FREE and=20
nice sounding<BR>Galceverb<BR>&gt; !, FreeverbToo, Classicverb and =
others ( I=20
will gladly email all free and<BR>&gt; nice reverbs if asked =
to)<BR>&gt; NOW=20
you should be hearing your reverb return on tracks 15 and 16 and=20
you<BR>can<BR>&gt; check the NO LATENVY with just having a dry signal =
on=20
reverb's return and<BR>&gt; flip the polarity.<BR>&gt; So we managed =
to have a=20
DX reverb on aux buss inside Paris WHICH CAN BE<BR>&gt; ACROSS =
SUBMIXES=20
!<BR>&gt; Only a small delay of 12 samples plus 2 samples after that =
for=20
additional<BR>&gt; eds cards.<BR>&gt; That is no problem at =
all.<BR>&gt;=20
Afterall you need predelay almost everytime with a reverb.<BR>&gt; If =
you=20
struggle for no predela
Re: A question about cumulative quantization noise/dither [message #58175 is a reply to message #58151] Wed, 14 September 2005 09:53 Go to previous message
Deej [1] is currently offline  Deej [1]   UNITED STATES
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; or Bassman 4x10" cabinets.
>
>Neil
>
>
>
>"Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>Of course many, probably most, of the classic funk and soul keyboard =
sounds,
>>such as organ sounds and electric piano sounds, were created by =
actually
>>micing the amps rather than using a line signal, often with some =
slight
>overdrive
>>or other characteristics of the speakers and amps themselves =
evident.
>>
>>I'm assuming I'm going to get a better emulation of sounds like this =
by
>actually
>>turning on some of the amp and speaker emulation in my GNX4. The GNX =
has
>>what I think is a fairly nice rotary speaker emulation, as well as a =
nice
>>tremelo effect, but seperate to this (yes I realise that a Leslie =
was a
>speaker
>>hence it should kinda be part of the speaker selection, but =
seperate) is
>>the amp and the speaker cabinet emulation. Unfortunately the GNX4 is =
pretty
>>much dedicated to emulating only guitar and bass amps, but I figure =
there
>>must be some in there that are more likely to sound like a classic =
keyboard
>>amp than others, and I'm sure over the years the odd person probably =
used
>>a guitar amp with a keyboard anyhow. Problem is a lot of the amps in =
this
>>list mean nothing to me other than a bunch of characters, whereas =
I'm sure
>>quite a few of you will be familiar with many of them, and I'm also =
even
>>less familiar with actual keyboard amps, so I'm really lost for a =
place
>to
>>start other than to push buttons and see how things sound... =
....which
>may
>>of course be a very good approach, but
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