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Re: Tested Paris big time [message #89749 is a reply to message #89746] Wed, 12 September 2007 23:07 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Re: Tested Paris big time [message #89751 is a reply to message #89749] Wed, 12 September 2007 23:09 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Re: Tested Paris big time [message #89752 is a reply to message #89751] Wed, 12 September 2007 23:10 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Re: Well okay . . . [message #89755 is a reply to message #89752] Wed, 12 September 2007 23:23 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Re: Well okay . . . [message #89784 is a reply to message #89777] Thu, 13 September 2007 10:10 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Re: Well okay . . . [message #89791 is a reply to message #89783] Thu, 13 September 2007 10:55 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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---=_linux4713ae1d--doh, I guess I should have watched it !Roll call?....i.e. (who dat?)


dbHere's another article, this one focused on the upcoming OSX
implementation of multiple desktops:

http://www.appleinsider.com/articles/07/10/11/road_to_mac_os _x_leopard_spaces.html

Looks good.

Cheers,
-Jamie
www.JamieKrutz.com



Jamie K wrote:
> James McCloskey wrote:
>> Jamie K <Meta@Dimensional.com> wrote:
>>> James McCloskey wrote:
>>>> There was an article a couple of years ago about Apple filing for some
>> patents
>>>> and so on. The article said that the technology was already under the
>> hood,
>>>> but not implemented. So they hacked it, and demoed how it would work
>> in
>>>> a video. What they showed was the spinning cube thing, where the whole
>> screen
>>>> would spin to a new desk top. They showed 4 different desk tops.
>>> You mean the same cube spin transition OSX uses when you switch
>>> users? It's nice eye candy for sure. But the basic multiple desktop
>>> feature has
>>
>>> been around in other operating systems for decades - various flavors of
>>
>>> UNIX, on the Amiga, I think, and BeOS. Good stuff.
>>>
>>> If Apple doesn't postpone again, the update should be out in a couple of
>>
>>> weeks.
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> -Jamie
>>> www.JamieKrutz.com
>>
>> Yeah it was something like that. No dispute about who had it first.
>> I was
>> just saying that according to an article it's been under the hood for
>> awhile.
>> They also talked about third parties developing different ways to use
>> the
>> technology. To my knowledge, there has been software that can
>> essentially
>> do this for a long time. I think there are links on Doug W.'s FAQ
>> page for
>> third party software???
>
> Yep. I've seen several 3rd party hacks to add this to OSX, but haven't
> been willing to risk any problems with system stability using them. I've
> been waiting for the integrated version from Apple. Shouldn't be long
> now...
>
> Cheers,
> -Jamie
> www.JamieKrutz.com
>
>
>
>>
>>>
>>>> Jamie K <Meta@Dimensional.com> wrote:
>>>>> James McCloskey wrote:
>>>>>> http://www.mactruth.com/more.php?id=19_0_1_0_M
>>>>> From the article: "Spaces will allow you to set up different desktop
>>
>>>>> environments, making clutter a thing of the past. However, because
>>>>> Spaces has never appeared in an OS before..."
>>>>>
>>>>> Nice article, but that quoted bit is wrong. I've used similar features
>>
>>>>> in Linux and BeOS. I'm very glad Apple is finally getting around to
>>>>> implementing it, though, it's very useful.
>>>>>
>>>>> The upcoming OSX feature I'm most interested in is one he didn't
>>>>> mention, Time Machine. Built-in backups. That alone should be worth
>>>>> the
>>>>> update.
>>>>>
>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>> -Jamie
>>>>> www.JamieKrutz.com
>>Check it out. It's good.

;o)

"John" <no@no.com> wrote in message news:4713ae37$1@linux...
>
> doh, I guess I should have watched it !Don't get me started...

Actually, since the '80s when I built my first guitar rack, I haven't
used any pedals except midi controllers, wah and volume.

Hey, but different strokes, right?

LaMont wrote:
> I checked out one of those Behringer Pedals, and they sound 'Better' than
> Roland-Boss pedals. Hands down.
>
> Note: I've been playing the guitar for over 30 years now and I've owned pretty
> every boss pedal thru the years. My point:
>
> Boss pedals we're not that good then. And you purchased them when you could
> not afford a MRX or Elect-Harmonix pedal unit.
>
> Boss prices are outlandish!! Even more, so is this new so-called boutique
> fx pedal market. $200-300 hundred for a distortion box.. Pleassee!!
>
> This whole boutique/vintage market BS that's being perpetrated on the pro-audio
> world is just that BS. The fact that some of us buy this stuff and Feel like
> a king when we make such ridiculous purchases. 5K-7K for a Mic that sound
> wise can be had today for around $500.00 bucks.
>
> I think this whole boutique /Vinatge market push being pushed by the old-guard
> engineers that does not wnat to let go of:
>
> -Work flow methods
> -Sound of recordings
>
> Let's take soudn of recording..Most of the pro-audio market is being held
> hostage by this old guard and these guys live in a 1960-70's sound quality
> mind-set. Real innovation and technology has been held hostage by companies
> trying to accomodate this audience.
>
> Even though great sounding records can and Are being made using new tools
> and high sample rates (Neil comes to mind) with In The Box summing, the old
> guard companies like SSL, Neve, Trident have rose from the dead and are trying
> to sell 100k feature-less mixers. Once again, insistng that we turn the clock
> around and accomodate these old farts :)..
>
> Hey, do'nt get me wrong, I like a trained on the old stuff from the 70's
> and 80's. I have that sound imprinted in my head. But, If I'm honest, a good
> mondern mix kills any of those mixes by leaps and bounds. Problem is, we
> have to start mixing by the rules of digital..
>
> Okay Rant off..
>
>
>
> "Aaron Allen" <know-spam@not_here.dude> wrote:
>>
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>Suetonius lacked the tools to understand personality defects??? That's like
saying Greek sculptors lacked the ability to understand art because they
couldn't attend RISD. That's insane. Some of the tools we use to analyze
personality were built into us when we were still chimps. And you even Suetonius
wrong as far as his usefulness, there is a great deal in the Twelve Caesars
that is quite obviously historical nonsense, and he clearly cants his opinions
in the direction of some (Octavian, Titus, Vespasian) while emphasizing the
most grotesque of the most ogre-like (Caligula, Nero). What we DO get from
him is some genuine psychological insight as well as a long and considered
discussion on the (very much then current) topic of what kind of leader is
the best one.

Next time I want to read a book about psychopaths I'll check out the one
you linked to. But my understanding is that a mild/minor psychopath is what
we refer to with the less than scientific term of 'asshole' and leave it
at that. And yes, if 4% of the population are psychopaths then there are
12 million of them kicking around the USA. That's a little longer than a
1 in 20 shot, so most of them must stay out of the serial killing/ritual
torturing business.

As for the personality type that is attracted to political power, I still
go to the classics, despite their lack of formal training at modern US universities.


TCB

"DC" <dc@spammersinhell.com> wrote:
>
>He didn't have the tools to understand the personality
>defects of the Cesears,though as a historical source
>he is invaluable and allows us to support the very point
>you make.
>
>Hare has a rather startling thesis in "Without Conscience".
>that asserts that there are shades of socio/psychopathology
>beyond the sane/insane paradigm. Hare believes that there
>are millions of moderate to mild sociopaths and psychopaths
>in our society. In the case of sociopaths in particular, their
>narcissism and lack of conscience lead me to believe that
>they are particularly attracted to visible, powerful, and
>leadership positions. This thesis is mine, not Hare's and
>I may write on it. It seems unavoidable given his assertions.
>If you cannot think of a clear example of consistent and
>methodical use of conscience in presidents in our lifetimes,
>and I cannot (despite the fact that there are a few singular
>examples, you still must remember that even Scott Petersen
>could cry on demand if he thought it would get him a reward)
>then I suspect that our image-driven media and the sheer
>size of our population, combined with the enormous power
>of the US Presidency,has indeed filled the office with the
>conscience-free in recent decades.
>
>I don't see how to change it, regardless of what
>paradigm we use to understand it.
>
>At any rate, you have badly misunderstood Hare. Start with
>"Without Conscience". You will recognize many people
>you have dealt with. With the music biz in particular, the
>mild to moderate sociopath is the standard-issue personality.
>
>!
>
>
>DC
>
>
>"TCB" <nobody@ishere.com> wrote:
>>
>>Um, Don, you were talking about politicians? Yes? Not workplace shooters?
>>So again, I suggest Suetonius, but you can take it or leave it. I've read
>>it already
>>
>>TCB
>>
>>"DC" <dc@spammersinhell.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>"TCB" <nobody@ishere.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>Read up on your Suetonius, Don, that's the underlying theme of 'The Twelve
>>>>Caesars.'
>>>>
>>>>TCB
>>>
>>>
>>>I think Bob Hare is a lot closer...
>>>
>>>
>>>http://www.hare.org/
>>>
>>>
>>>DC
>>>
>>
>"TCB" <nobody@ishere.com> wrote:
>
>Suetonius lacked the tools to understand personality defects??? That's like
>saying Greek sculptors lacked the ability to understand art because they
>couldn't attend RISD. That's insane.


Actually, it very much like saying Greek sculptors lacked the
tools in predict computer art. As with Suetonius, we can do
some rewarding guesswork, of course.


>Some of the tools we use to analyze
>personality were built into us when we were still chimps.

We were never chimps. The chimp line is a dead end with no
connection to humans, despite them being a close DNA match.
To claim so is to advocate a hopeful and orthodox,
but sadly ignorant Darwinism in the face of the fossil record.


>What we DO get from
>him is some genuine psychological insight as well as a long and considered
>discussion on the (very much then current) topic of what kind of leader
is
>the best one.

Based upon our perspective. But, given our perspective, he
would have described them differently.


>Next time I want to read a book about psychopaths I'll check out the one
>you linked to. But my understanding is that a mild/minor psychopath is what
>we refer to with the less than scientific term of 'asshole' and leave it
>at that.


Ah, but many would call it other things. Hare's brilliance is
opening one's eyes to a systematic look at asshole-ness as
pathology. There are other perspectives too, but they involve
subjects that atheists find discomfiting. (Hare does not
raise moral issues BTW)


>And yes, if 4% of the population are psychopaths then there are
>12 million of them kicking around the USA. That's a little longer than a
>1 in 20 shot, so most of them must stay out of the serial killing/ritual
>torturing business.

Wrong. read Hare.


>As for the personality type that is attracted to political power, I still
>go to the classics, despite their lack of formal training at modern US universities.

Well, we agree there.

DC"DC" <dc@spammersinhell.com> wrote:
>
>"TCB" <nobody@ishere.com> wrote:
>>
>>Suetonius lacked the tools
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e (both artistically
>>> and technically).
>>>
>>>The most interesting part of the table-talk, was the question "Who actually
>>>uses Paris on a daily basis?" Before I could raise my hand, Gene was looking
>>>in my direction a
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..." target="_blank">1@linux...
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JBbVZl-XhE0
>
> If you get a chance, check it out. I engineered it top to bottom, and
> also did the mastering. The artist is Tonya Watts, from Alabama. The guy
> who sang on the record with her, and is also walking along side her in the
> video, is Waylon Payne, who is the actor that played Jerry Lee Lewis in
> "Walk The Line". He's also the son of Sammi Smith, that had the hit on
> "Help Me Make It Through The Night" back in '71.
>
> CL
>I have three Digimax FS and between them and the RME 9652 audio card I bought,
those are the two best hardware devices I have ever bought. Simply fantastic.
It is possible to clip before the light comes on if you have really fast
transients, so use your ears, the sound is fantastic and I have not had
one hiccup in 6 months.Hi All,

I've been hard at work (as usual) cooking up more PARIS goodies for 'yall,
and I think I've got a good one this time.

The PARIS DeEsser sounds awesome, and it's easy to use, too.

Thanks so much to everyone who has donated to this. It has been a big help.

I'm currently taking a day a week off work in order to do this (every Monday)
- which is my choice. I love this shit, and I've wanted to do this forever.
But, it's expensive. It's costing me about $200 a week to make these things
- which is my choice. But, if you do enjoy these plugins and find them useful,
please help me pay for this! I'm seeing dozens and dozens of downloads and
far, far fewer donations.

As always, you can downoad the plugs at my website: www.ensoniq.ca.

Enjoy!

MikeHey Mike! Just wanted to say thanks for your continued hard work and to confirm
that you recieved my donation.

Terry Thomas

"Mike Audet" <mike@....> wrote:
>
>Hi All,
>
>I've been hard at work (as usual) cooking up more PARIS goodies for 'yall,
>and I think I've got a good one this time.
>
>The PARIS DeEsser sounds awesome, and it's easy to use, too.
>
>Thanks so much to everyone who has donated to this. It has been a big help.
>
>I'm currently taking a day a week off work in order to do this (every Monday)
>- which is my choice. I love this shit, and I've wanted to do this forever.
> But, it's expensive. It's costing me about $200 a week to make these things
>- which is my choice. But, if you do enjoy these plugins and find them
useful,
>please help me pay for this! I'm seeing dozens and dozens of downloads
and
>far, far fewer donations.
>
>As always, you can downoad the plugs at my website: www.ensoniq.ca.
>
>Enjoy!
>
>Mike
>
>I see the paypal is up and going on the page :)

AA

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oing to probably get quite a few converts.
>>>>>
>>>>> D (I can't believe I'm saying something nice about Apple) J
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "LaMont" <jjdpro@gmail.com> wrote in message news:471a3b60$1@linux...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Well, while i type this post, I'm in our new apple store (5 minutes
>> from
>>>>
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> house!!)..
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'm running Logic 8 (Studio) on a new imac Intel core2 duo 2.4 (24
inch
>>>>
>>>>>> monitor),
>>>>>> playing with (Re-mixing/editing) a "ROOTS" MIX CALLED MARATHON MAN...
>>>> A
>>>>>> Hot
>>>>>> Hip hop mix that comes with Logic Studio..
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Ok..First, I'm impressed with the Speed and solid feel of these new
>>>>>> iMacs..These
>>>>>> are not your fathers imacs.. Completly different guts.. FAster buss,
>>>>>> Separate
>>>>>> Nvidia Graphics card.. Sata 3.0 drive..800 mgz firewire..
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Logic Studio is (99 percent) of what I wanted to see changed(I wanted
>>>> more
>>>>>> real world looking faders)..
>>>>>> That being stated, the program (@1.0) is a dream for me.. I'm an old
>> Logic
>>>>>> head and got dismayed with apps lagging audio editing and recording
>>>>>> functionality..
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Apple has answered the bell.. At first , i didnot think i'd like the
>> one
>>>>>> screen thing..But, I'm a fan.. You can still run muti monitors in
Logic
>>>> 8,
>>>>>> but the one screen thing is very cool..
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The editing is very fast..quicker than Pro Tools..2 clicks away from
>>>>>> Nuendo/Cubase..
>>>>>> Somehow, apple has managed to keep intact it's (Still) Best Midi Sequencer
>>>>>> in the world feel, and tightness that only an Akai MPC can come close
>>>> 2..
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Sound: I have to agree with most logic 8 reviews..The Sound has improved.
>>>>>> More, dare I say Pro Tool(ish)...SBut, still a tight bottom...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The fact that when I plumped down to test this rig, it was already
running
>>>>>> a dvd(School Of Rock) and several safarie web pages.. Its still playing
>>>>
>>>>>> while
>>>>>> I'm typing this post..
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Back to Logic 8..They also, keep the tight integration with Digi in
>> that
>>>>>> you can use your TDM hardware and use logic as a front end..Sweet..
>>>>>>
>>>>>> To be honest, I could start a project (Midi-wise) and go to tracking
>>>>>> audio/edit...Then,
>>>>>> mix in this app.. Things can only get better, as I have stated , this
>>>> is
>>>>>> only version 1.0..OH.. NO CRASHES..!!! Torturing this baby for 2 hours
>>>>
>>>>>> straight..
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Another cool part of the bundle is : Main-stage: I realy can't explain
>>>>
>>>>>> this
>>>>>> app, but it's a kind of a shell (Say V-Stack) for live playing of
virtual
>>>>>> instruments with having logic running..
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'm told by the in-store Logic/Final Cut pro rep, that Logic will
get
>>>> a 30
>>>>>> percent boost in performance in Lepoard oxs..Sweet..
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Lastly, These new machines already had boot camp loaded with XP Pro
>> Sp2.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> To me, for audio pros, Getting a Mac is a good purchase. No matter
how
>>>> you
>>>>>> cut it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Impressed!!
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>It's really mainly a VSTi performance issue for me, more than monitoring. I
can deal with monitoring in the usual ways (Totalmix, outboard mixer,
whatever), but a few ms of latency gets sloppy when playing a load of
VSTi's.

Why 0.003ms at 1
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>>> would be great for a farm system); solid proof that core audio can run at
>>> comparable low latencies under comparable loading as ASIO can currently
>> -
>>> from what I hear, it really doesn't quite match up to ASIO's performance
>>> level at the moment (that can be a big deal); and that core audio doesn't
>>> yet support direct monitoring (Leopard?) - not a big deal with faster
>>> systems, or really even for my work in general, but a minor consideration
>> at
>>> least.
>>>
>>> As far as running WinXP Pro dual boot - nice to have for some, but not
>>> really necessary for me - no need to spend more for hardware to have what
>> I
>>> already have. My only reason for considering a Mac would be to avoid Vista
>>> and run OSX as a way to move to 64-bit and higher memory access.
>>>
>>> I am with DJ (and you it seems) on this point though - Vista just doesn't
>>> look like an audio solution... heck... it's not much of any solution. ;-)
>>>
>>> I'm about to downgrade my laptop to WinXP from Vista, which is actually
>> a
>>> bit of an upgrade since I can't get the stupid thing to see any USB thumb
>>> drives, my Logitech cam, and overall it seems a little slow for a core 2.
>>> WinXP and OSX have no problem with any of these devices.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Dedric
>>>
>>>
>>> On 10/20/07 5:57 PM, in article 471a9601$1@linux, "LaMont"
>>> <jjdpro@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hey Dedric, I think OSX Lepoard is a pretty good version of Unix imho.
>>>> Even,with
>>>> Panther, with the right hardware, this seems to be the best for Pro Audio
>>>> apps. Then, when when you factor in the fact that this same Box (Mac)
>> can
>>>> run Win Xp-pro and run it really well. As I have witnessed Cuabse SX running
>>>> on the Windows partion. It was flying!! ;)
>>>>
>>>> I'm not giving up on Windows, but it seems that Apple is really making
>> a
>>>> really good case for the go-to Multi-media workstaion.
>>>>
>>>> Hey, the rumor for the apple x-server is that it use the upcomming AMD
>> quad
>>>> core. Ohh weee!!! With OSX-Lepoard. that will pack a good punch.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Dedric Terry <dterry@keyofd.net> wrote:
>>>>> On 10/20/07 1:14 PM, in article 471a53b0$1@linux, "LaMont"
>>>>> <jjdpro@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> As for Steinberg, i won;t count them out. But, many of us are getting
>>>> a little
>>>>>> cranky. The synergy with Yamaha has not produced the kind of products
>>>> we
>>>>> N4 is out and it's pretty sweet - it's faster and snappier - some plugin
>>>>> compatibility issues to sort out (W5 no longer works for one), but
>>>>> otherwise
>>>>> running well here.
>>>>>
>>>>> DJ -
>>>>>
>>>>> The multicore issue is top on the list to be solved probably in the next
>>>>> rev, along with support for dual mono files on stereo tracks (drag and
>>>>> drop). They didn't have time to completely fix the multicore problem
>> with
>>>>> N4.1 so it was put back - I'm hoping we'll see it in a maintenance release
>>>>> fairly soon.
>>>>>
>>>>> Go with whatever works for you though. I won't post Nuendo 4.1 features
>>>>> since this is a Logic thread. ;-) (If you or anyone else is interested
>>>> I'll
>>>>> post something next week.)
>>>>>
>>>>> Btw - I hear you on Vista - hate it. If Apple released OSX a couple
>> of
>>>>> months ago, they could have made a big stake in the OS market. Now I'm
>>>>> thinking Linux could finally make push into the pro music/audio/video
>>>>> market.... just a hunch (or hope maybe) based on something I noticed
>> in
>>>> some
>>>>> Cubase 4 xml code....
>>>>>
>>>>>> So, we have choices..I hear that euphonix is workign on a chepaer version
>>>>>> of their MC5 controller.
>>>>> Yep - check the teaser here (it really is just a teaser that takes a
>> while
>>>>> to let you know they aren't showing anything yet):
>>>>>
>>>>> http://euphonix.com/artist/
>>>>>
>>>>> Dedric
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "DJ" <animix _ at _ animas _ dot _ net> wrote:
>>>>>>> I know it's going to cost me $$ eventually to move into the world of
>>>> "no
>>>>>> PCI
>>>>>>> slots". That's the direction everything is going. What's troubling
>> to
>>>> me
>>>>>> is
>>>>>>> the slacker/non professional crap that I'm seeing from Steinberg
>>>>>>> development. You'd think that their being owned by Yamaha would have
>>>>>>> produced something integrated to the level of t Digidesign by now with
>>>>>>> controllers. Also, the inability to address dual socket multi core
>> CPU's
>>>>>> is
>>>>>>> inexcusable in this day and age. I hear that C4.1 and N4 do not yet
>> have
>>>>>>> this X-Scaling issue solved by a long stretch and they're going to
>> be
>>>> pretty
>>>>>>> much supporting only Vista on the windows platform pretty soon. Moving
>>>> to
>>>>>>> Vista is sounding to me like a bigger nightmare than moving to Apple.
>>>> Kudos
>>>>>>> to Apple if they have the 64 bit......large memory and x-scaling CPU
>>>> issues
>>>>>>> sussed.. If Logic 8 can utilize the resources of dual quad core CPU's,
>>>>>> it's
>>>>>>> going to probably get quite a few converts.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> D (I can't believe I'm saying something nice about Apple) J
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "LaMont" <jjdpro@gmail.com> wrote in message news:471a3b60$1@linux...
>>>>>>>> Well, while i type this post, I'm in our new apple store (5 minutes
>>>> from
>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>> house!!)..
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I'm running Logic 8 (Studio) on a new imac Intel core2 duo 2.4 (24
>> inch
>>>>>>>> monitor),
>>>>>>>> playing with (Re-mixing/editin
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rote:
>>>>>>>> I know it's going to cost me $$ eventually to move into the world
of
>>>>> "no
>>>>>>> PCI
>>>>>>>> slots". That's the direction everything is going. What's troubling
>>> to
>>>>> me
>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>>> the slacker/non professional crap that I'm seeing from Steinberg
>>>>>>>> development. You'd think that their being owned by Yamaha would
have
>>>>>>>> produced something integrated to the level of t Digidesign by now
with
>>>>>>>> controllers. Also, the inability to address dual socket multi core
>>> CPU's
>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>>> inexcusable in this day and age. I hear that C4.1 and N4 do not
yet
>>> have
>>>>>>>> this X-Scaling issue solved by a long stretch and they're going
to
>>> be
>>>>> pretty
>>>>>>>> much supporting only Vista on the windows platform pretty soon.
Moving
>>>>> to
>>>>>>>> Vista is sounding to me like a bigger nightmare than moving to Apple.
>>>>> Kudos
>>>>>>>> to Apple if they have the 64 bit......large memory and x-scaling
CPU
>>>>> issues
>>>>>>>> sussed.. If Logic 8 can utilize the resources of dual quad core
CPU's,
>>>>>>> it's
>>>>>>>> going to probably get quite a few converts.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> D (I can't believe I'm saying something nice about Apple) J
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> "LaMont" <jjdpro@gmail.com> wrote in message news:471a3b60$1@linux...
>>>>>>>>> Well, while i type this post, I'm in our new apple store (5 minutes
>>>>> from
>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>> house!!)..
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I'm running Logic 8 (Studio) on a new imac Intel core2 duo 2.4
(24
>>> inch
>>>>>>>>> monitor),
>>>>>>>>> playing with (Re-mixing/editing) a "ROOTS" MIX CALLED MARATHON
MAN...
>>>>>>> A
>>>>>>>>> Hot
>>>>>>>>> Hip hop mix that comes with Logic Studio..
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Ok..First, I'm impressed with the Speed and solid feel of these
new
>>>>>>>>> iMacs..These
>>>>>>>>> are not your fathers imacs.. Completly different guts.. FAster
buss,
>>>>>>>>> Separate
>>>>>>>>> Nvidia Graphics card.. Sata 3.0 drive..800 mgz firewire..
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Logic Studio is (99 percent) of what I wanted to see changed(I
wanted
>>>>>>> more
>>>>>>>>> real world looking faders)..
>>>>>>>>> That being stated, the program (@1.0) is a dream for me.. I'm an
old
>>>>> Logic
>>>>>>>>> head and got dismayed with apps lagging audio editing and recording
>>>>>>>>> functionality..
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Apple has answered the bell.. At first , i didnot think i'd like
the
>>>>> one
>>>>>>>>> screen thing..But, I'm a fan.. You can still run muti monitors
in
>>> Logic
>>>>>>> 8,
>>>>>>>>> but the one screen thing is very cool..
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> The editing is very fast..quicker than Pro Tools..2 clicks away
from
>>>>>>>>> Nuendo/Cubase..
>>>>>>>>> Somehow, apple has managed to keep intact it's (Still) Best Midi
>>>>>>>>> Sequencer
>>>>>>>>> in the world feel, and tightness that only an Akai MPC can come
close
>>>>>>> 2..
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Sound: I have to agree with most logic 8 reviews..The Sound has
>>>>>>>>> improved.
>>>>>>>>> More, dare I say Pro Tool(ish)...SBut, still a tight bottom...
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> The fact that when I plumped down to test this rig, it was already
>>> running
>>>>>>>>> a dvd(School Of Rock) and several safarie web pages.. Its still
playing
>>>>>>>>> while
>>>>>>>>> I'm typing this post..
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Back to Logic 8..They also, keep the tight integration with Digi
in
>>>>> that
>>>>>>>>> you can use your TDM hardware and use logic as a front end..Sweet..
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> To be honest, I could start a project (Midi-wise) and go to tracking
>>>>>>>>> audio/edit...Then,
>>>>>>>>> mix in this app.. Things can only get better, as I have stated
, this
>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>>>> only version 1.0..OH.. NO CRASHES..!!! Torturing this baby for
2 hours
>>>>>>>>> straight..
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Another cool part of the bundle is : Main-stage: I realy can't
explain
>>>>>>>>> this
>>>>>>>>> app, but it's a kind of a shell (Say V-Stack) for live playing
of
>>> virtual
>>>>>>>>> instruments with having logic running..
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I'm told by the in-store Logic/Final Cut pro rep, that Logic will
>>> get
>>>>>>> a 30
>>>>>>>>> percent boost in performance in Lepoard oxs..Sweet..
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Lastly, These new machines already had boot camp loaded with XP
Pro
>>>>> Sp2.
>>>>>>>>> To me, for audio pros, Getting a Mac is a good purchase. No matter
>>> how
>>>>>>> you
>>>>>>>>> cut it.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Impressed!!
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>Big day. Added another 2GB RAM, put in a gigantic 1TB system drive, and
then installed Logic 8 and all of its associated apps and content to my
dual G5.

I've done just a few tests with Logic 8 so far but it seems to be
working OK. The new single window interface option is very nice.
Logical, even. Main Stage is fun.

So I now have 4.5GB of RAM to run various animation, graphics, HD video
editing, internet and biz apps, and Logic of course. It's nice to have
almost twice as much room for huge projects and multitasking. I still
have room to expand the RAM to 8GB if needed but I think this will do
for a while.

There's plenty of room on the system drive now for whatever OSX 10.5
needs when it comes out next week, with vast space to spare. (I'll
probably wait a bit before I get 10.5 to make sure it's a solid release.)

Ivory got all huffy about the new drive and had to be reregistered. To
Synthogy's credit registration was reasonably easy, and there was a 5
day window allowed (sort of, I lost a day of that by installing it right
before midnight). But I gotta say, keying software registration to a
hardware component that's likely to be replaced seems a bit ridiculous.

Some of the older NI stuff also quit working due to being keyed to the
hard drive (sheesh), but the newer NI plugins seem OK. Since I still use
some of the older NI plugins I'm going to have to deal with
re-authorizing them.

Cheers,
-Jamie
www.JamieKrutz.com

PS. There's already an update for Main Stage available via the Software
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Thanks Dimitrios.

Mike said the same thing. Is the ini in the Paris folde or system 32?
Do I want the Master card to be 0 absolutely? I only have one card
in there right now and it's all freaky just the same.
Tom



"Dimitrios" <musurgio@otenet.gr> wrote in message =
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Hi Tom !@
Sorry to hear you still having problems like this ~!!
Must be very frustrating.
Open the Paris ini file and there change the mastercardoutput with =
your other
cards and see what happens !!
Let me know.
Regards,
Dimitrios

"Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>
>Rick,
>1 mec, no BNC involved. Paris boots up so the 1 mec that
>I'm using shows up but never any A to Ds or any installed modules.
>This is the same symptom before I repaired one of my mecs with a
>new chip. The clock light continues to flash too. Never locks in.
>
>I am using the simplest setup I can imagine and still it's not =
working.
>Mike A. suggested the .ini file to make sure card A is 0. I'll try =
=3D
>that.
>Pretty sure it's right but who knows?
>Thanks,
>Tom
>
>
>
>
>
>"rick" <parnell68@hotmail.com> wrote in message =3D
>news:inqgh393an5s4m99qcaojn09vn112t4u6r@4ax.com...
> i know this as dumb as it gets but the bnc is attached in the right
> order...right?
> all the cards show up in paris with the single mec?
> how many i/o cards in each mec?
>
>
> On Fri, 19 Oct 2007 00:22:39 -0400, "Tom Bruhl" =
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> >the system stopped. That was a few weeks ago.
> >
> >Today I tried different cables, eds cards, mecs, eliminated the =
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=3D
>and
> >still no clock lock or modules showing up in the paris patchbay.
> >
> >This means to me software unless someone tells me differently.
> >
> >I have a new C drive which I will load XP and no pace. Any =
other=3D20
> >suggestions?
> >
> >More frustrated than my clients,
> >Tom
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >I choose Polesoft Lockspam to fight spam, and you?
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>Tom=20
> !@<BR>Sorry to hear you still having problems like this ~!!<BR>Must be
=
>very=20
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>mastercardoutput=20
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>to Ds or=20
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Hi Mike,
Well I've been to .cfg many a time.
I've seen that Mastercard setting as being 0
but maybe it changed after removing the 4 other
eds cards for this round of testing.

If it's still 0 what else could this be? Busted mobo?
I'm really in an idunno place right now. I'll be checking
seriously today again because of a session tomorrow morning.
Tom


"Mike Audet" <mike@....> wrote in message news:471b2ec2$1@linux...

Hi Tom,

If you've only got one card in, then the Mastercard =3D 0 setting is =
right.
The file is Paris.cfg, and it lives in the c:\program files\Emu\PARIS =
PRO
folder.

I'd still check it out to see what it is set to.

If it is wrong, what you are describing will happen.

Good luck!

Mike

"Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote:
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>Thanks Dimitrios.
>
>Mike said the same thing. Is the ini in the Paris folde or system =
32?
>Do I want the Master card to be 0 absolutely? I only have one card
>in there right now and it's all freaky just the same.
>Tom
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>
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> "Dimitrios" <musurgio@otenet.gr> wrote in message =3D
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