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| Re: totally OT: Impeaching Bush [message #85816 is a reply to message #85802] |
Sat, 02 June 2007 18:37   |
Sarah
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onnect the three MECs to the =
Lucid clock=20
outputs with cables of equal length, connect the MEC on card A to =
clock=20
output #1, Mec on card B to output #2, etc.........I don't know why, =
but=20
this is what worked for me.......then ((very important) set the =
Lucid clock=20
to 44.1KHz sample rate (if that's what you're using)</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>3. Boot Paris from the Paris.exe in =
the=20
C\Program files\EMU\Paris folder</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>4. Set the project to 48KHz and =
save it back to=20
the same folder under the name "Default Project" (no =
quotes).</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>5. Save it again to the desktop =
under the same=20
name.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>6. Reboot your computer and =
launch Paris=20
from the icon on your desktop. Do not ever change the sample rate of =
your=20
Default Project. Leave it at 48KHz. You will be able to open all of =
your old=20
44.1 projects or create new 44.1 projects from this one once Paris =
has=20
booted and fully initialized.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Deej</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
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<DIV>"Tom Bruhl" <<A=20
href=3D"mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A>> =
wrote in=20
message <A =
href=3D"news:468bceee@linux">news:468bceee@linux</A>...</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I was more stable than ever =
before with Lucid=20
WC,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>2 MECs and one 442. Never =
crashed=20
once. I added</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>a third MEC and that was okay but =
it's=20
in/outs weren't</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>functional. I tried it in a =
different=20
position and ever since</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>then I get this after Paris has =
gotten to the=20
EDS/DX effects</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>part of the start =
up.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Unhandled =
Exception:c00000005</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>at address: 77c35ea</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I tried removing the last MEC and =
putting it=20
in the last working position.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>All I get is this error and can't =
boot up=20
Paris.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Last working =
configuration:</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Submix A MEC</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Submix B 442</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Submix C MEC (no working =
audio)</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Submix E MEC</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I tried swapping =
hardware between Submix=20
B and C and that's when the trouble began.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I also reseated the eds cards and =
their=20
cables.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Is it possible it's an =
effect? I have=20
added nothing new in months and it was very stable.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Maybe a defective default=20
project?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I'll try another one to boot from =
that=20
happens to be at 48k.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Tips graciously =
accepted,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Tom</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2><BR><BR>I choose Polesoft Lockspam to fight =
spam, and=20
you?<BR><A=20
=
href=3D"http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html">http://www.polesoft.com/refer=
..html</A> </FONT></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE ></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCK=
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------=_NextPart_000_0367_01C7BE2E.88FEEE10--Magix released Sascha's plugins as VST:
http://www.samplitude.com/eng/vst/uebersicht.html
GrahamAnd the same to you. Stay out of that sun... Death Valley is predicted
to
hit 127 F today. We have it easy here in SoCal, only 106...
yipes... I need a cold beer...
DC
"Neil" <OIUOIU@OIU.com> wrote:
>
>To all the rest of you Yanks out there!
>
>NeilC4 is fantastic and also buggy. They developers are pretty sloppy and
as a result the app is NOT one that many can use in a pro studio. I
love it but it does have warts. As long as it does what you want then
it's fantastic. Like I said, I love it.
Check out my notes.
www.kfocus.com/cubase
Bill L wrote:
> I recently upgraded to C4 from SX1. I've been using Samplitude up 'til
> now, but got kind of fed up with certain Sam limitations.
>
> I am so impressed with C4 and it's capabilities. I love patching in
> outboard f/x with delay compensation. I actually dig many of the
> included f/x plugs and the Studio eq is not too shabby. I was just
> messing with the envelope shaper on a snare and could get a ton of
> control with it (trick I just found: when snare fills need more oomph,
> automate the release time and open it up for the fill - makes them big
> and ballsy).
>
> One of the reasons I switched away from Sam is it has a kind of
> incomplete or sloppy aspect to it. They add new features but don't
> complete or integrate them fully. C4 is totally the opposite - a very
> slick, pro bit o' kit.
>
> I'm contemplating something DJ will no doubt appreciate. There are some
> excellent f/x in Sam I would like to be able to patch into from C4, but
> they are proprietary. Can I run Sam on a separate machine and patch via
> the sends out thru ADAT LP into a channel in Sam with the f/x on it? I
> wonder if it senses the actual delay or just computes it from the driver
> latency settings? If it just computes it will not compensate for the
> delay into and out of the Sam machine's sound card. When I get time to
> install sam on the other machine I'll check it out.
>
> If you are looking for a really excellent, mature and robust DAW I do
> recommend C4.What is you motherboard. You have 3 eds cards? IRQ conflicts are the
biggest problem. Make sure you don't have conflicts which is damn hard
with 3 cards. You may need a magma for that many cards. I think used
they are $250 or so.
Tom Bruhl wrote:
> I was more stable than ever before with Lucid WC,
> 2 MECs and one 442. Never crashed once. I added
> a third MEC and that was okay but it's in/outs weren't
> functional. I tried it in a different position and ever since
> then I get this after Paris has gotten to the EDS/DX effects
> part of the start up.
>
> Unhandled Exception:c00000005
> at address: 77c35ea
>
> I tried removing the last MEC and putting it in the last working position.
> All I get is this error and can't boot up Paris.
>
> Last working configuration:
> Submix A MEC
> Submix B 442
> Submix C MEC (no working audio)
> Submix E MEC
>
> I tried swapping hardware between Submix B and C and that's when the
> trouble began.
> I also reseated the eds cards and their cables.
>
> Is it possible it's an effect? I have added nothing new in months and
> it was very stable.
> Maybe a defective default project?
>
> I'll try another one to boot from that happens to be at 48k.
>
> Tips graciously accepted,
> Tom
>
>
>
> I choose Polesoft Lockspam to fight spam, and you?
> http://www.polesoft.com/refer.htmlThis is the part where I talk about the balls of Edmund still charging
for Paris, taking up to 7 days for challenge response and offering no
support. WOOT
DJ wrote:
> Tom,
>
> It looks like a "having a 442 in a multiMEC setup" issue. If removing
> the 442 and setting up things exactly as I described doesn't work,
> remove the third MEC (the one I sen you) and try your original
> configuration again. That MEC was working perfectly as MEC #3 in a x 4
> MEC Paris rig before I tore it down. All I/O (including the clock I/O
> were functioning perfectly. You do have the MEC BNC outputs terminated
> with 75ohm caps, don't you?
>
> Deej
>
>
>
>
> "Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net <mailto:arpegio@comcast.net>> wrote
> in message news:468bd715@linux...
> Hey DJ,
> I've been doing everything here except no 442. I'll give that a whirl.
> Does that error look like a hardware issue to you?
> Tom
>
>
>
> "DJ" <animix _ at _ animas _ dot _ net> wrote in message
> news:468bd4bf@linux...
> Tom,
>
> After you have edited your Pairs .cfg file to add the line
> "UseHouseSync=1" (no quotes), save this and reboot your computer.
>
> 1. Get the 442 completely out of the equation. Forget about
> using it ever again in a multicard setup. It's just going to
> make your life miserable.
>
> 2. Connect the three MECs to the Lucid clock outputs with cables
> of equal length, connect the MEC on card A to clock output #1,
> Mec on card B to output #2, etc.........I don't know why, but
> this is what worked for me.......then ((very important) set the
> Lucid clock to 44.1KHz sample rate (if that's what you're using)
>
> 3. Boot Paris from the Paris.exe in the C\Program
> files\EMU\Paris folder
>
> 4. Set the project to 48KHz and save it back to the same folder
> under the name "Default Project" (no quotes).
>
> 5. Save it again to the desktop under the same name.
>
> 6. Reboot your computer and launch Paris from the icon on your
> desktop. Do not ever change the sample rate of your Default
> Project. Leave it at 48KHz. You will be able to open all of your
> old 44.1 projects or create new 44.1 projects from this one once
> Paris has booted and fully initialized.
>
> Deej
>
>
>
> "Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net
> <mailto:arpegio@comcast.net>> wrote in message
> news:468bceee@linux...
> I was more stable than ever before with Lucid WC,
> 2 MECs and one 442. Never crashed once. I added
> a third MEC and that was okay but it's in/outs weren't
> functional. I tried it in a different position and ever since
> then I get this after Paris has gotten to the EDS/DX effects
> part of the start up.
>
> Unhandled Exception:c00000005
> at address: 77c35ea
>
> I tried removing the last MEC and putting it in the last
> working position.
> All I get is this error and can't boot up Paris.
>
> Last working configuration:
> Submix A MEC
> Submix B 442
> Submix C MEC (no working audio)
> Submix E MEC
>
> I tried swapping hardware between Submix B and C and that's
> when the trouble began.
> I also reseated the eds cards and their cables.
>
> Is it possible it's an effect? I have added nothing new in
> months and it was very stable.
> Maybe a defective default project?
>
> I'll try another one to boot from that happens to be at 48k.
>
> Tips graciously accepted,
> Tom
>
>
>
> I choose Polesoft Lockspam to fight spam, and you?
> http://www.polesoft.com/refer.htmlIf sweat was possible in 5% humidity, I'd be sweating right now. Yesterday,
I drank a gallon and a half of water over a 3.5 hour period before I pee'd.
"DC" <dc@spammersinhell.com> wrote in message news:468bde32$1@linux...
>
> And the same to you. Stay out of that sun... Death Valley is predicted
> to
> hit 127 F today. We have it easy here in SoCal, only 106...
>
> yipes... I need a cold beer...
>
> DC
>
>
> "Neil" <OIUOIU@OIU.com> wrote:
>>
>>To all the rest of you Yanks out there!
>>
>>Neil
>Makes ya a bit pear-shaped donnit?
DC
"DJ" <animix _ at _ animas _ dot _ net> wrote:
>If sweat was possible in 5% humidity, I'd be sweating right now. Yesterday,
>I drank a gallon and a half of water over a 3.5 hour period before I pee'd.
>
>"DC" <dc@spammersinhell.com> wrote in message news:468bde32$1@linux...
>>
>> And the same to you. Stay out of that sun... Death Valley is predicted
>> to
>> hit 127 F today. We have it easy here in SoCal, only 106...
>>
>> yipes... I need a cold beer...
>>
>> DC
>>
>>
>> "Neil" <OIUOIU@OIU.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>To all the rest of you Yanks out there!
>>>
>>>Neil
>>
>
>I don't hear anything special other than the great drums. They two keyboard
sequencers are left right as are the guitars, the rhodes comes in later and
the vocals seem very centered. The drums are wonderful.
"james McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>"John" <no@no.com> wrote:
>>
>>Anything specific in Eminence Front? I'm noticing in particular that the
>>drums sound fantastic and BIG !
>>
>>Gimmie something to find in it !! ;-)
>
>Listen to each side. As I recall, the lead vocal sounds like it's in the
>center or there about. When you pan it's on one side. It's dry and there
>are some ambient reverberated lead VOX tails on some passages on the other
>side. There are some other panning and wet dry things going on in the mix.
> When you pan around and listen, it's kind of a weird mix. When you pan
>center it all comes together. I just wonder what would happen and what
you
>would hear if you played with the phase. It's a different approach to mixing.
>
>Sometimes it's good to listen to some mixes on one side at a time. And
yeah,
>the drums are great.
>................makes me want to find a cool dark place and sleep all day
too.
;o)
"DC" <dc@spammersinhell.com> wrote in message news:468be4c1$1@linux...
>
> Makes ya a bit pear-shaped donnit?
>
> DC
>
> "DJ" <animix _ at _ animas _ dot _ net> wrote:
>>If sweat was possible in 5% humidity, I'd be sweating right now.
>>Yesterday,
>
>>I drank a gallon and a half of water over a 3.5 hour period before I
>>pee'd.
>>
>>"DC" <dc@spammersinhell.com> wrote in message news:468bde32$1@linux...
>>>
>>> And the same to you. Stay out of that sun... Death Valley is
>>> predicted
>>> to
>>> hit 127 F today. We have it easy here in SoCal, only 106...
>>>
>>> yipes... I need a cold beer...
>>>
>>> DC
>>>
>>>
>>> "Neil" <OIUOIU@OIU.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>To all the rest of you Yanks out there!
>>>>
>>>>Neil
>>>
>>
>>
>This is a multi-part message in MIME format.
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I purchase a pair of Neumann KM84i's on EBay. Seller uses the following =
language in his ad........
It is in very good working condition it is missing the purple neumann =
shield on the microphone it has some minor ware and tare a few light =
scratches on it as well over all i would give it an 8 out of 10=20
I plugged it in with Phantom power it works and sounds great=20
i will offer a refund only if microphone is damaged during shipping=20
Shipping insurance is recomended=20
this item will be sold as is and will not arrive D.O.A.
Seller offers to hship them to me for $10.00. I tell him no, and provide =
him with my UPS account number and tell him to ship them 2nd day, =
insured for $3000.00, which he does. For some reason, they arrive late, =
(the evening of June 28th) but the package is completely intact and =
shows no signs of damage or mishandling.
I put them up on stands and conncet them to my Great river preamp. the =
output of one if them is a bit low initially, but comes back up to an =
acceptable level after a minute. I leave them up for about 45 minutes to =
get a burn in and they appear to function normally.
The next day I do the same. Output level of same mic is a bit low, but =
stabilizes. I use them for a little while, then put them away. I leave =
the seller positive feedback because I am willing to concede that an =
old mic like this may need to get the circuitry warmed up in order to =
stabilize.
Sunday, July 2nd, I have a picker come over to do some tracking. I put =
the mics up and start tracking. The same mic that I thought needed to =
stabilize drops in level to the point it is ususable, making quite a bit =
of racket as it dies.
I call "a well known expert" (I'm keeping names out of this) on Monday =
and under his guidance, I remove the capsule of the mic that died. then =
I remove the capsule of the mic that works. the connecting pin from the =
capsule assembly to the amp of the bad mic is physically broken off in =
the back of the capsule assembly. When the capsulle is screwed on to the =
amp, there is barely enough current flowing between the broken pin =
pieces to provide some signal, though not enough to be usable. I have =
attached pictures.
At this point I called yet another well respected expert who services =
these mics for an opinion and was told that he had a backlog until late =
2008 but that Neumann could probably fix this issue. I boxed up both =
mics, called Neumann, talked to their tech support, got an RA# and =
shipped the mics on Monday PM.
I then called PayPal and described the problem. They stated that their =
policy is that no matter how a seller represents an item, if he accepts =
Payment by PayPal, he is subject to the PP 45 day =
complaint/arbitration/refund policy (I guess this may be why people who =
sell very expensive old "vintage" mics, don't accept PayPal. The support =
guy also advised me to go ahead and submit a complaint so that this =
could be handled properly.
I thought about this and then e-mailed the seller through EBay with a =
brief description of what had happened. I didn't hear back from him for =
a few hours. I decided to file the complaint (the seller thinks a little =
prematurely) because I'm extremely busy and don't have the time to jack =
around with waiting for some dude who probably is going to tell me that =
I bought these "as is:" so he's not going to do jack ****. Judging by =
the language in his ad, he is obvious intent is to sell a used mic and =
then deny responsibility for it's condition because "this item will be =
sold as is and will not arrive D.O.A" because " I plugged it in with =
Phantom power it works and sounds great"
Since I paid for both mics at once, Paypal gave this a single =
transaction # and has frozen the payment for both mics. I clearly told =
him (when he replied to my complaint) and to PayPal (when I made the =
complaint) that my problem was with only one of the mics. I will be fine =
with releasing the funds to him for the working mic, but I have not yet =
received a reply from him to my reply *to* his reply to my reply (sigh).
I have asked him to pay for the repair or give me a full refund for the =
mic if the capsule is not repairable. II am also willing to abide by the =
opinion of the folks at Neumann as to the condition of the mic. I think =
I have a reasonalbe expectation to have a functional mic and I think the =
sellers attempts to have it both ways by stating that the mic works, but =
"if it doesn't", anyone who buys it is screwed. IMO, a seller has to =
responsibility to have his products serviced and confirmed to be in good =
working order, or be willing abide by the rules of the game if he =
accepts Payment by PayPal. that's part of the beauty of PayPal..Seller =
gets his money immediately.....buyer has recourse if he gets crapped on. =
Am I being an asshole here?
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I purchase a pair of Neumann =
KM84i's on EBay.=20
Seller uses the following language in his ad........</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>It is in very good =
working condition=20
it is missing the purple neumann shield on the microphone =
it has=20
some minor ware and tare a few light scratches on it as well over all i =
would=20
give it an 8 out of 10 </FONT></DIV>
<DIV>
<P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I plugged it in with Phantom power it =
works and=20
sounds great </FONT></P>
<P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>i will offer a refund only if microphone =
is damaged=20
during shipping </FONT></P>
<P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Shipping insurance is recomended =
</FONT></P>
<P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>this item will be sold as is and will not =
arrive=20
D.O.A.</FONT></P>
<P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Seller offers to hship them to me for =
$10.00. I tell=20
him no, and provide him with my UPS account number and tell him to ship =
them 2nd=20
day, insured for $3000.00, which he does. For some reason, they arrive =
late,=20
(the evening of June 28th) but the package is completely intact and =
shows no=20
signs of damage or mishandling.</FONT></P>
<P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I put them up on stands and conncet them =
to my Great=20
river preamp. the output of one if them is a bit low initially, but =
comes back=20
up to an acceptable level after a minute. I leave them up for about 45 =
minutes=20
to get a burn in and they appear to function normally.</FONT></P>
<P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>The next day I do the same. Output level =
of same mic=20
is a bit low, but stabilizes. I use them for a little while, then put =
them away.=20
I leave the seller positive feedback because I am willing to =
concede that=20
an old mic like this may need to get the circuitry warmed up in order to =
stabilize.</FONT></P>
<P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Sunday, July 2nd, I have a picker come =
over to do=20
some tracking. I put the mics up and start tracking. The same mic that I =
thought=20
needed to stabilize drops in level to the point it is ususable, making =
quite a=20
bit of racket as it dies.</FONT></P>
<P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I call "a well known expert" (I'm keeping =
names out=20
of this) on Monday and under his guidance, I remove the capsule of the =
mic that=20
died. then I remove the capsule of the mic that works. the connecting =
pin from=20
the capsule assembly to the amp of the bad mic is physically broken off =
in the=20
back of the capsule assembly. When the capsulle is screwed on to the =
amp, there=20
is barely enough current flowing between the broken pin pieces to =
provide some=20
signal, though not enough to be usable. I have attached =
pictures.</FONT></P>
<P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>At this point I called yet another well =
respected=20
expert who services these mics for an opinion and was told that he had a =
backlog=20
until late 2008 but that Neumann could probably fix this issue. I boxed =
up both=20
mics, called Neumann, talked to their tech support, got an RA# and =
shipped the=20
mics on Monday PM.</FONT></P>
<P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I then called PayPal and described the =
problem. They=20
stated that their policy is that no matter how a seller represents an =
item, if=20
he accepts Payment by PayPal, he is subject to the PP 45 day=20
complaint/arbitration/refund policy (I guess this may be why people who =
sell=20
very expensive old "vintage" mics, don't accept PayPal. The support guy =
also=20
advised me to go ahead and submit a complaint so that this could be =
handled=20
properly.</FONT></P>
<P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I thought about this and then e-mailed =
the seller=20
through EBay with a brief description of what had happened. I didn't =
hear back=20
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BTW, I tried the "good" capsule assembly with both mic amps and both =
amps are working properly. There is a tiny bit of the broking off =
threaded pin sticking out of the back of the capsule assmebly s maybe, =
with the tools available to the the mic techs at Neumann, they can get =
some purchase on this and unscrew it, replace the pin, reglue both pins =
to the respective capsule assemblies (as they should be) and we'll be =
done........hopefully. these mics sound really good and I'm hoping upon =
hope that the capsule isn't damaged. they ain't making them anymore.
"DJ" <animix _ at _ animas _ dot _ net> wrote in message =
news:468bf398@linux...
I purchase a pair of Neumann KM84i's on EBay. Seller uses the =
following language in his ad........
It is in very good working condition it is missing the purple neumann =
shield on the microphone it has some minor ware and tare a few light =
scratches on it as well over all i would give it an 8 out of 10=20
I plugged it in with Phantom power it works and sounds great=20
i will offer a refund only if microphone is damaged during shipping=20
Shipping insurance is recomended=20
this item will be sold as is and will not arrive D.O.A.
Seller offers to hship them to me for $10.00. I tell him no, and =
provide him with my UPS account number and tell him to ship them 2nd =
day, insured for $3000.00, which he does. For some reason, they arrive =
late, (the evening of June 28th) but the package is completely intact =
and shows no signs of damage or mishandling.
I put them up on stands and conncet them to my Great river preamp. the =
output of one if them is a bit low initially, but comes back up to an =
acceptable level after a minute. I leave them up for about 45 minutes to =
get a burn in and they appear to function normally.
The next day I do the same. Output level of same mic is a bit low, but =
stabilizes. I use them for a little while, then put them away. I leave =
the seller positive feedback because I am willing to concede that an =
old mic like this may need to get the circuitry warmed up in order to =
stabilize.
Sunday, July 2nd, I have a picker come over to do some tracking. I put =
the mics up and start tracking. The same mic that I thought needed to =
stabilize drops in level to the point it is ususable, making quite a bit =
of racket as it dies.
I call "a well known expert" (I'm keeping names out of this) on Monday =
and under his guidance, I remove the capsule of the mic that died. then =
I remove the capsule of the mic that works. the connecting pin from the =
capsule assembly to the amp of the bad mic is physically broken off in =
the back of the capsule assembly. When the capsulle is screwed on to the =
amp, there is barely enough current flowing between the broken pin =
pieces to provide some signal, though not enough to be usable. I have =
attached pictures.
At this point I called yet another well respected expert who services =
these mics for an opinion and was told that he had a backlog until late =
2008 but that Neumann could probably fix this issue. I boxed up both =
mics, called Neumann, talked to their tech support, got an RA# and =
shipped the mics on Monday PM.
I then called PayPal and described the problem. They stated that their =
policy is that no matter how a seller represents an item, if he accepts =
Payment by PayPal, he is subject to the PP 45 day =
complaint/arbitration/refund policy (I guess this may be why people who =
sell very expensive old "vintage" mics, don't accept PayPal. The support =
guy also advised me to go ahead and submit a complaint so that this =
could be handled properly.
I thought about this and then e-mailed the seller through EBay with a =
brief description of what had happened. I didn't hear back from him for =
a few hours. I decided to file the complaint (the seller thinks a little =
prematurely) because I'm extremely busy and don't have the time to jack =
around with waiting for some dude who probably is going to tell me that =
I bought these "as is:" so he's not going to do jack ****. Judging by =
the language in his ad, he is obvious intent is to sell a used mic and =
then deny responsibility for it's condition because "this item will be =
sold as is and will not arrive D.O.A" because " I plugged it in with =
Phantom power it works and sounds great"
Since I paid for both mics at once, Paypal gave this a single =
transaction # and has frozen the payment for both mics. I clearly told =
him (when he replied to my complaint) and to PayPal (when I made the =
complaint) that my problem was with only one of the mics. I will be fine =
with releasing the funds to him for the working mic, but I have not yet =
received a reply from him to my reply *to* his reply to my reply (sigh).
I have asked him to pay for the repair or give me a full refund for =
the mic if the capsule is not repairable. II am also willing to abide by =
the opinion of the folks at Neumann as to the condition of the mic. I =
think I have a reasonalbe expectation to have a functional mic and I =
think the sellers attempts to have it both ways by stating that the mic =
works, but "if it doesn't", anyone who buys it is screwed. IMO, a =
seller has to responsibility to have his products serviced and confirmed =
to be in good working order, or be willing abide by the rules of the =
game if he accepts Payment by PayPal. that's part of the beauty of =
PayPal..Seller gets his money immediately.....buyer has recourse if he =
gets crapped on. Am I being an asshole here?
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>BTW, I tried the "good" capsule =
assembly with both=20
mic amps and both amps are working properly. There is a tiny bit of the =
broking=20
off threaded pin sticking out of the back of the capsule assmebly s =
maybe, with=20
the tools available to the the mic techs at Neumann, they can get some =
purchase=20
on this and unscrew it, replace the pin, reglue both pins to the =
respective=20
capsule assemblies (as they should be) and we'll be =
done........hopefully. these=20
mics sound really good and I'm hoping upon hope that the capsule isn't =
damaged.=20
they ain't making them anymore.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV>"DJ" <animix _ at _ animas _ dot _ net> wrote in message <A =
href=3D"news:468bf398@linux">news:468bf398@linux</A>...</DIV>
<DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I purchase a pair of Neumann =
KM84i's on=20
EBay. Seller uses the following language in his =
ad........</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>It is in very good =
working condition=20
it is missing the purple neumann shield on the =
microphone it=20
has some minor ware and tare a few light scratches on it as well over =
all i=20
would give it an 8 out of 10 </FONT></DIV>
<DIV>
<P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I plugged it in with Phantom power it =
works and=20
sounds great </FONT></P>
<P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>i will offer a refund only if =
microphone is damaged=20
during shipping </FONT></P>
<P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Shipping insurance is recomended =
</FONT></P>
<P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>this item will be sold as is and will =
not arrive=20
D.O.A.</FONT></P>
<P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Seller offers to hship them to me for =
$10.00. I=20
tell him no, and provide him with my UPS account number and tell him =
to ship=20
them 2nd day, insured for $3000.00, which he does. For some reason, =
they=20
arrive late, (the evening of June 28th) but the package is completely =
intact=20
and shows no signs of damage or mishandling.</FONT></P>
<P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I put them up on stands and conncet =
them to my=20
Great river preamp. the output of one if them is a bit low initially, =
but=20
comes back up to an acceptable level after a minute. I leave them up =
for about=20
45 minutes to get a burn in and they appear to function =
normally.</FONT></P>
<P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>The next day I do the same. Output =
level of same=20
mic is a bit low, but stabilizes. I use them for a little while, then =
put them=20
away. I leave the seller positive feedback because I am willing =
to=20
concede that an old mic like this may need to get the circuitry warmed =
up in=20
order to stabilize.</FONT></P>
<P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Sunday, July 2nd, I have a picker come =
over to do=20
some tracking. I put the mics up and start tracking. The same mic that =
I=20
thought needed to stabilize drops in level to the point it is =
ususable, making=20
quite a bit of racket as it dies.</FONT></P>
<P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I call "a well known expert" (I'm =
keeping names out=20
of this) on Monday and under his guidance, I remove the capsule of the =
mic=20
that died. then I remove the capsule of the mic that works. the =
connecting pin=20
from the capsule assembly to the amp of the bad mic is physically =
broken off=20
in the back of the capsule assembly. When the capsulle is screwed on =
to the=20
amp, there is barely enough current flowing between the broken pin =
pieces to=20
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pictures.</FONT></P>
<P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>At this point I called yet another well =
respected=20
expert who services these mics for an opinion and was told that he had =
a=20
backlog until late 2008 but that Neumann could probably fix this =
issue. I=20
boxed up both mics, called Neumann, talked to their tech support, got =
an RA#=20
and shipped the mics on Monday PM.</FONT></P>
<P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I then called PayPal and described the =
problem.=20
They stated that their policy is that no matter how a seller =
represents an=20
item, if he accepts Payment by PayPal, he is subject to the PP 45 day=20
complaint/arbitration/refund policy (I guess this may be why people =
who sell=20
very expensive old "vintage" mics, don't accept PayPal. The support =
guy also=20
advised me to go ahead and submit a complaint so that this could be =
handled=20
properly.</FONT></P>
<P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I thought about this and then e-mailed =
the seller=20
through EBay with a brief description of what had happened. I didn't =
hear back=20
from him for a few hours. I decided to file the complaint (the seller=20
thinks a little prematurely) because I'm extremely busy and don't =
have=20
the time to jack around with waiting for some dude who probably is =
going to=20
tell me that I bought these "as is:" so he's not going to do jack =
****.=20
Judging by the language in his ad, he is obvious intent is to sell a =
used mic=20
and then deny responsibility for it's condition because <EM>"this item =
will be=20
sold as is and will not arrive D.O.A"</EM> because "<EM> I =
plugged=20
it in with Phantom power it works and sounds great"</EM></FONT></P>
<P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Since I paid for both mics at once, =
Paypal gave=20
this a single transaction # and has frozen the payment for both =
mics. I=20
clearly told him (when he replied to my complaint) and to PayPal (when =
I made=20
the complaint) that my problem was with only one of the mics. I will =
be fine=20
with releasing the funds to him for the working mic, but I have not =
yet=20
received a reply from him to my reply *to* his reply to my reply=20
(sigh).</FONT></P>
<P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I have asked him to pay for =
the repair=20
or give me a full refund for the mic if the capsule is not repairable. =
II am=20
also willing to abide by the opinion of the folks at Neumann as to the =
condition of the mic. I think I have a reasonalbe expectation to have =
a=20
functional mic and I think the sellers attempts to have it both ways =
by=20
stating that the mic works, but "if it doesn't", anyone who buys =
it is=20
screwed. IMO, a seller has to responsibility to have his=20
products serviced and confirmed to be in good working order, or =
be=20
willing abide by the rules of the game if he accepts Payment by =
PayPal. =20
that's part of the beauty of PayPal..Seller gets his money=20
immediately.....buyer has recourse if he gets crapped on. Am I being =
an=20
asshole here?</FONT></P></DIV></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML >
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