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---=_linux42dbf85c--It's out of the oven. Now I've lost the post with your address.........c'mon
man..........one more time.

;o)

"rick" <parnell68@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:uasnd15vq8f5ph51vho1goi6rqhji72230@4ax.com...
> it does help to explain the tardy cd. is it on it's way yet? god,
> i'd make a wonderful wife/mother huh.
>
> ;o)
>
> On Mon, 18 Jul 2005 09:04:08 -0600, "DJ"
> <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote:
>
> >This is sort of the the same approach I take when building a new
computer.
> >
> >;o)
> >
> >"rick" <parnell68@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> >news:c8fnd1pe1u2tbim0ujrj4sdjo29f90r5cv@4ax.com...
> >> what if i follow the wrong trail by mistake and end up lawyers office
> >> of the guy (whose other parts i followed by your advice) he's suing.
> >> he'll listen to my besotted tale of woe and offers me a job as a
> >> numbers runner for one of his other clients. then after a few
> >> successful runs i collect my money only to find out that it's
> >> counterfeit. this of course happens after i go in to pay the parking
> >> ticket i got in my rented car since mine is the real trail i should
> >> have followed.
> >>
> >> now i'm in court facing 3 to 5 for passing bad bills. the lawyer who
> >> got me into this shit to begin with refuses to take my case saying
> >> that i should have known better than to follow his advice.
> >>
> >> after the paramedics put my immobile body onto the gurney and in to
> >> the ambulance we proceed to the hospital where the crash cart awaits
> >> my expected arrival. making the final turn to the hospital entrance
> >> the rear door of the ambulance swings open as the first of two wheels
> >> hits the dead cat in the road. the ensuing bump while not large is
> >> enough to sever the relationship between the gurney and floor of my
> >> ride. my open eyes catch sight of the medics in the back as i pass
> >> them out the door.
> >>
> >> the ambulance screeches to a hault but the gurney continues on
> >> striking a bike messenger just hard enough to alter my direction 90
> >> degrees to port and down the rather sizable steep hill. as my speed
> >> gathers down the hill, the thought "oh crap" begins to replace the
> >> previous ...
> >>
> >> i could go on about this but the memories are far too painful for me
> >> to continue and i'm sure you'll understand my stopping.
> >>
> >>
> >> On Mon, 18 Jul 2005 07:55:56 -0600, "Miguel Vigil" <nospam@nospam.com>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >> >just follow the trail of smashed up car parts by the interstate...
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >El Crumbs
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >"rick" <parnell68@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> >> >news:53gkd197fapohekpdm96psq62r39eq0i47@4ax.com...
> >> >> "and we know where you live"...that's good to know. as a drunken
> >> >> jackass, there may come a day when i'll need help finding the right
> >> >> driveway to pull up...whew.
> >> >>
> >> >> ;o)
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> On Sat, 16 Jul 2005 19:45:25 -0600, "DJ"
> >> >> <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> >Hehehe..........Mr. Simplicity is down for repairs. Chipset fan
> >crapped
> >> >out
> >> >> >on Mr. S' mobo. I'm picking up the slack until heatsink arrives.
> >There
> >> >> >really is no human associated with either of these
names........only
> >> >> >electornic componentry.......and we know where you live.
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> >"rick" <parnell68@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> >> >> >news:e64jd1h050tesjr8taququt3sbnokoo6gi@4ax.com...
> >> >> >> after 2 months mr. simplicity is finally ready to figure out how
to
> >> >> >> actually mail me the cd and...well...it appears to be a serious
> >> >> >> challenge so Dj is filling in whilst he figures it out.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> On 17 Jul 2005 08:38:38 +1000, "Mike Claytor"
<claytor@nospam.com>
> >> >> >> wrote:
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >"DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote:
> >> >> >> >>OMG!!! ;o(.........I just listened to the MP3's. Bad mistake. I
> >> >gonna'
> >> >> >have
> >> >> >> >>to buy all five models or I might...........
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >>"DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote in message
> >> >> >> >>news:42d97a82@linux...
> >> >> >> >>> http://www.platesonics.com/index.html
> >> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >> >>> ...........now go build a sound-proof room
> >> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >> >>> ;o)
> >> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >
> >> >>
> >> >
> >>
> >
>He, he, could the mouse fix the printer?

erlilo

"Mike Claytor" <claytor@nospam.com> skrev i en meddelelse
news:42dbf85c$1@linux...
>
>it's in the fridge next to the ketchup. but...if it's not the try
P.O.B 133
Williamston MI.
48895

don'y forget to put your return address on the envelope. no, not
because the PO may lose it, but for the other obvious reason.

On Mon, 18 Jul 2005 12:42:37 -0600, "DJ"
<animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote:

>It's out of the oven. Now I've lost the post with your address.........c'mon
>man..........one more time.
>
>;o)
>
>"rick" <parnell68@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>news:uasnd15vq8f5ph51vho1goi6rqhji72230@4ax.com...
>> it does help to explain the tardy cd. is it on it's way yet? god,
>> i'd make a wonderful wife/mother huh.
>>
>> ;o)
>>
>> On Mon, 18 Jul 2005 09:04:08 -0600, "DJ"
>> <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote:
>>
>> >This is sort of the the same approach I take when building a new
>computer.
>> >
>> >;o)
>> >
>> >"rick" <parnell68@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>> >news:c8fnd1pe1u2tbim0ujrj4sdjo29f90r5cv@4ax.com...
>> >> what if i follow the wrong trail by mistake and end up lawyers office
>> >> of the guy (whose other parts i followed by your advice) he's suing.
>> >> he'll listen to my besotted tale of woe and offers me a job as a
>> >> numbers runner for one of his other clients. then after a few
>> >> successful runs i collect my money only to find out that it's
>> >> counterfeit. this of course happens after i go in to pay the parking
>> >> ticket i got in my rented car since mine is the real trail i should
>> >> have followed.
>> >>
>> >> now i'm in court facing 3 to 5 for passing bad bills. the lawyer who
>> >> got me into this shit to begin with refuses to take my case saying
>> >> that i should have known better than to follow his advice.
>> >>
>> >> after the paramedics put my immobile body onto the gurney and in to
>> >> the ambulance we proceed to the hospital where the crash cart awaits
>> >> my expected arrival. making the final turn to the hospital entrance
>> >> the rear door of the ambulance swings open as the first of two wheels
>> >> hits the dead cat in the road. the ensuing bump while not large is
>> >> enough to sever the relationship between the gurney and floor of my
>> >> ride. my open eyes catch sight of the medics in the back as i pass
>> >> them out the door.
>> >>
>> >> the ambulance screeches to a hault but the gurney continues on
>> >> striking a bike messenger just hard enough to alter my direction 90
>> >> degrees to port and down the rather sizable steep hill. as my speed
>> >> gathers down the hill, the thought "oh crap" begins to replace the
>> >> previous ...
>> >>
>> >> i could go on about this but the memories are far too painful for me
>> >> to continue and i'm sure you'll understand my stopping.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> On Mon, 18 Jul 2005 07:55:56 -0600, "Miguel Vigil" <nospam@nospam.com>
>> >> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> >just follow the trail of smashed up car parts by the interstate...
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >El Crumbs
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >"rick" <parnell68@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>> >> >news:53gkd197fapohekpdm96psq62r39eq0i47@4ax.com...
>> >> >> "and we know where you live"...that's good to know. as a drunken
>> >> >> jackass, there may come a day when i'll need help finding the right
>> >> >> driveway to pull up...whew.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> ;o)
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> On Sat, 16 Jul 2005 19:45:25 -0600, "DJ"
>> >> >> <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> >Hehehe..........Mr. Simplicity is down for repairs. Chipset fan
>> >crapped
>> >> >out
>> >> >> >on Mr. S' mobo. I'm picking up the slack until heatsink arrives.
>> >There
>> >> >> >really is no human associated with either of these
>names........only
>> >> >> >electornic componentry.......and we know where you live.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >"rick" <parnell68@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>> >> >> >news:e64jd1h050tesjr8taququt3sbnokoo6gi@4ax.com...
>> >> >> >> after 2 months mr. simplicity is finally ready to figure out how
>to
>> >> >> >> actually mail me the cd and...well...it appears to be a serious
>> >> >> >> challenge so Dj is filling in whilst he figures it out.
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> On 17 Jul 2005 08:38:38 +1000, "Mike Claytor"
><claytor@nospam.com>
>> >> >> >> wrote:
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >"DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote:
>> >> >> >> >>OMG!!! ;o(.........I just listened to the MP3's. Bad mistake. I
>> >> >gonna'
>> >> >> >have
>> >> >> >> >>to buy all five models or I might...........
>> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >>"DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote in message
>> >> >> >> >>news:42d97a82@linux...
>> >> >> >> >>> http://www.platesonics.com/index.html
>> >> >> >> >>>
>> >> >> >> >>> ...........now go build a sound-proof room
>> >> >> >> >>>
>> >> >> >> >>> ;o)
>> >> >> >> >>>
>> >> >> >> >>>
>> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >
>> >> >>
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >
>>
>Ok..........so I should address this to Mr. Footballhead.........correct.

;o)

"rick" <parnell68@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> it's in the fridge next to the ketchup. but...if it's not the try
> P.O.B 133
> Williamston MI.
> 48895
>
> don'y forget to put your return address on the envelope. no, not
> because the PO may lose it, but for the other obvious reason.
>
> On Mon, 18 Jul 2005 12:42:37 -0600, "DJ"
> <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote:
>
> >It's out of the oven. Now I've lost the post with your
address.........c'mon
> >man..........one more time.
> >
> >;o)
> >
> >"rick" <parnell68@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> >news:uasnd15vq8f5ph51vho1goi6rqhji72230@4ax.com...
> >> it does help to explain the tardy cd. is it on it's way yet? god,
> >> i'd make a wonderful wife/mother huh.
> >>
> >> ;o)
> >>
> >> On Mon, 18 Jul 2005 09:04:08 -0600, "DJ"
> >> <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote:
> >>
> >> >This is sort of the the same approach I take when building a new
> >computer.
> >> >
> >> >;o)
> >> >
> >> >"rick" <parnell68@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> >> >news:c8fnd1pe1u2tbim0ujrj4sdjo29f90r5cv@4ax.com...
> >> >> what if i follow the wrong trail by mistake and end up lawyers
office
> >> >> of the guy (whose other parts i followed by your advice) he's suing.
> >> >> he'll listen to my besotted tale of woe and offers me a job as a
> >> >> numbers runner for one of his other clients. then after a few
> >> >> successful runs i collect my money only to find out that it's
> >> >> counterfeit. this of course happens after i go in to pay the
parking
> >> >> ticket i got in my rented car since mine is the real trail i should
> >> >> have followed.
> >> >>
> >> >> now i'm in court facing 3 to 5 for passing bad bills. the lawyer
who
> >> >> got me into this shit to begin with refuses to take my case saying
> >> >> that i should have known better than to follow his advice.
> >> >>
> >> >> after the paramedics put my immobile body onto the gurney and in to
> >> >> the ambulance we proceed to the hospital where the crash cart awaits
> >> >> my expected arrival. making the final turn to the hospital entrance
> >> >> the rear door of the ambulance swings open as the first of two
wheels
> >> >> hits the dead cat in the road. the ensuing bump while not large is
> >> >> enough to sever the relationship between the gurney and floor of my
> >> >> ride. my open eyes catch sight of the medics in the back as i pass
> >> >> them out the door.
> >> >>
> >> >> the ambulance screeches to a hault but the gurney continues on
> >> >> striking a bike messenger just hard enough to alter my d
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irection 90
> >> >> degrees to port and down the rather sizable steep hill. as my speed
> >> >> gathers down the hill, the thought "oh crap" begins to replace the
> >> >> previous ...
> >> >>
> >> >> i could go on about this but the memories are far too painful for me
> >> >> to continue and i'm sure you'll understand my stopping.
> >> >&g
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punch on the answer.
> Rod
> "Mark McCurdy" <gmmccurdy@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >Steve Taylor's "I Wanna Be A Clone?"
> >
> >
> >"Brian Porick" <brianporick@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> >news:42dbc00f$

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inux..." target="_blank">1@linux...
> >>> here is some trivia for ya.....
> >>>
> >>> who is playing bass on "i want to be a clone".... you know the
intro....
>
> >>> "da
> >>> ga da ga da ga da ga dun, da ga da ga da ga da ga dun,......"
> >>
> >> I believe that would be our old friend Brian Tankersley...
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
>We DID find a tiny case of tools in there, too!

HP's been getting kinda strange about their onsite service, though.

;0)




"efrlilo" <erlilo@online.no> wrote:
>He, he, could the mouse fix the printer?
>
>erlilo
>
>"Mike Claytor" <claytor@nospam.com
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r /> "DC" <dcicchetti@urs2.net> wrote in message news:42dc3861$1@linux...
>
> I want a Klark-Teknik DN780. From the mid-1980's. Only one
> input, but what a great sounding reverb. You see them on ebay
> now and then.
>
> DC
>
>
> "DJ" <

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ix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net" target="_blank">animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote:
>>Just picked up a Sony V77 and a Sony M
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it. Has anyone put this info in detail anywhere online?

SpappyOK OK Yes, I need to reinstall everything... I'll get to it OK!

Just interesting that I was still able to make Paris crash out when switching
between projects, though the machine didn't hard crash and reboot like the
previous machine.

Also, I attempted to burn a DVD with it and it rebooted, which was odd...

....maybe I'll reinstall and try again. ;o)

Cheers,
Kim.Sure did................--
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r /> Martin Harrington
www.lendanear-sound.com

"Lance Reichert" <lance.rocks@nospam.verizon.net> wrote in message
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> Dudes, Did you try grabing her with the mouse?
> WOW!
>
>
>
> "Rich Lamanna" <richard.lamanna@verizon.net> wrote in message
> news:42db3943$1@linux...
>> Wow, she looks totally blissful and graceful throughout all of this. My
> kind
>> of woman.
>>
>> Ciao,
>> Rich
>>
>> "The world wishes to be deceived." - Sebastian Franck (around 1500 A.D.)
>>
>>
>
>Amy call
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>> >have
>> >> >> >> >> >>to buy all five models or I might...........
>> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >>"DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote in message
>> >> >> >> >> >>news:

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ng a mastering
session, when you come back to it, you invariably are
influenced by what you've already done in the mix. One one
hand, this could be a good thing, becasue you more than anyone
else know where you
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position
>changes
>> in such a talk, I do beleive that, with respectful informed discussion,
>that
>> over time people will become better educated as well as better thinkers.
>>
>> I think if we acheive those two things we're doing well, and I think
>overall
>> these recent discussions were probably a step in that direction.
>>
>> But anyhow, this is an audio group, so let's all forget the politics and
>> focus on my NEW DAW BOX SHALL WE? ;o)
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Kim.
>>
>>
>> "Neil" <OIUOIU@OIU.com> wrote:
>> >
>> >..i'd like to thank everyone for some spirited & lively, yet
>> >respectful (for the most part), conve
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res for
>
>>> extra
>>> drum mics beyond the 3 channels (each instrument tracked individually).
>
>>> It'd
>>> only be worth investing the money in an 8 channel pre if they're going
>to
>>> be a fairly significantly better than those in the desk.
>>>
>>> Many thanks for any advice / suggestions.
>>>
>>> BTW, mic wise I'm using AT4033a's as O/Hs / Vocals / acoustic guitar,
>
>>> C418s
>>> on toms / snare top, SM57 (underneath snare), D112 kick. I *may* buy
a
>
>>> Rode
>>> NTK (valve) for vocals / acoustic guitar.
>>
>>
>That's the one all right.

"Rod Lincoln" <rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com> wrote in message
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>
> http://www.voxengo.com/product/r8brain/
>
> it's great, it's free. They also make a Pro version, but I've never used
> it. Anyone have any comments on the difference between the two.
> rod
> "Jeremy Luzier" <j.luzier@comcast.net> wrote:
>
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ase she
uses on me when i try to...well you know...err...get some...sigh.

On Thu, 21 Jul 2005 07:44:57 -0700, Jamie K <Meta@Dimensional.com>
wrote:

>rick wrote:
>> yell at them til they agree with you.
>
>Heh. You crack me up, Rick.
>
>Cheers,
> -Jamie K
> http://www.JamieKrutz.comHi Cujo,

That's reassuring. The Spirit stuff definitely has suprisingly sweet eq for
the price. Presumably the same pres in the Racpac as the SX (ultramic). I
find them a bit noisy, especially when turned up. That said, for drums you
rarely need a lot of gain. What kind of eq are you tracking with (especially
on toms)? I'm usually track with no effects or eq, but my toms often sound
a bit weak with the C418s clip on mics... Advice appreciated.

I figure that most listeners won't notice the difference between the spirit
pres and a platinum focusrite... except possibly on guitars and vocals. So
I may supplement my mono Focusrite Voicemaster with a SPL Gold Mic stereo
channel (c.$550) for overheads, acoustic guitar and vocals (and to amplify
my Redeye passive di for guitar).

Thanks for all the advice.

Dan

"cujo" <chris@nospamapplemanstudio.com> wrote:
>
>I must agree tht the digimax sounds bad. I mixed a tune that another guy
recorded
>using these and every thing was harsh thin and grainy. Of course I was not
>there so it could have been some other issue. (pro tools?) I have a 16 channel
>spirit folio rac pac. I used to use it only
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> news:42e28006$1@linux...
>> There's been some banter here in times past about cheap chinese mics and
>> mfrg jobs going to China (think Mackie) and evil multi-national corps,
> etc.
>> A newspaper local to me recorded yesterday that the Chinese have decided
> to
>> "revalue" their currency, the "Yuan."
>>
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/> > Rode have just released 3 that are specifically for TV / Film production
> work and are priced at around AU$350.
> I bought one, (NTG-1), and I love it, and, whats more, so do my
clients....
> They've also released new capsules for their NT-5 range, as well as
selling
> them as a single unit.
> I met Jim Freedman, who owns the company, (a real ocka (Aussie) ) and a
> great character.
> That is a company that deserves to do well, and will,
>
> --
> Martin Harrington
> www.lendanear-sound.com
>
> "John Macy" <spamlessjohn@johnmacy.com> wrote in message
> news:42e3186d$1@linux...
> >
> > Weren't you liking the Nady Chinese
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W happy with this and the existing pair of HDSP
> 9652's.
>
> I'll keep the group posted about this and if someone else has done/is doing
> this already, I'd be really interested in hearing your impressions of the
> comparisons.
>
> Rick, Dedric, Dave, Gene.........you guys tried this yet?
>
> Deej
>
>This is one reason why I'm pretty sure my use of 96kHz will be limited. I'm
not sure I could even track 10 sources simultaneously at 96k on my current
Cubase rig (AMD XP3000 running 2Gigs of PC 2700 DDR with ATA 133 audio
drive.).

Thanks,

Deej


"DT" <dte
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gnals with a line level (set low) and the mic gain to 0 or 1?
I like the idea of being able to feed line signals (effected electric guitars,
etc) to the Gold Mic (flair function, etc).

I figure I'm probably not going to see a significant improvement on my Spirit
Ultramic pres on toms and snares if I went for the RME Octapre / QuadPre
or Focusrite Octopre, and would rather have one high quality dual channel
tube pre I can use on acoustic gtrs / vocals than lots of lesser quality<
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;>
>> through.
>>
>>>> I feel you should buy one or two pre's with that money, or save up
>>
>> for
>>
>>>>something better. Thats a more rewarding experience.
>>>
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pins on the card and burnish
> the contacts without loading up your jumper ribbons with
> cleaning solution.
>
> David.
>
> DJ wrote:
> > Looks like it's a bad card or bad ribbon cable(s). Just booted the
system
> > and now the same thing is happening. It's happening on Submix B now
(which
> > was switched to card C last night). I've done enough testing to be
pretty
> > sure it's not one of the HD SCSI cables or one of the MECs.
> >
> > When loading my default .ppj, I'm getting a digital pulse in the global
> > fader. The only thing that stops this is switching the submix that is
> > assigned to card C to virtual and then back to card. This stops the
noise,
> > but after doing this, no audio will play through the submix that card C
is
> > assigned to.
> >
> > I guess I've got more testing to do. First I'm going to pull card B,
replace
> > it with card C and see if I have any problems with playback on either
MEC B
> > or C.
> >
> > If it won't play on either MEC, then it's likely the card. If it plays
on
> > one MEC but not the other, then it's likely the MEC.
> >
> > If it plays on both MECs, I'm going to start switching ribbon cables
between
> > the cards and see if one of them is the culprit.
> >
> > If I still have n
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o problems, I'll be stumped 'cause cards A & B work
> > fine.......or so it seems right now.
> >
> > Maybe I'll get finished with this sometime today.
> >
> > ;o(
> >
> >
> > "Dave(EK Sound)" <audioguy_nospam_@shaw.ca> wrote in message
> > news:42eb101e@linux...
> >
> >>The NICE thing about Paris is that it totally doesn't matter
> >>which MEC is on what card... it is completely assignable in
> >>the global master window... you can literally shuffle your
> >>MEC's around then
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reassign them without losing anything in
> >>the way of routing.
> >>
> >>David.
> >>
> >>DJ wrote:
> >>
> >>>I've been working for about 6 months with 3 EDS cards which are hooked
> >
> > u
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p to
> >
> >>>three MECs. The last MEC doesn't have any analog I/O cards, just ADAT
> >
> > cards.
> >
> >>>I usually track to the first two MECs.
> >>>
> >>>Well, for some reason I can't fathom, suddenly MEC 3 stopped
> >>>sycing.........lots of digital hash. switching WC on and off would sync
> >
> > it
> >
> >>>back up. Then that stopped working. The switching the EDS card on
Submix
> >
> > 3
> >
> >>>in the global window to virtual and then back to card worked. Now that
> >
> > has
> >
> >>>stopped working. I thought it might be a bad cable so I switched the
> >
> > SCSI
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gt;> > >> > lynx aurora. i've got lynx two and the rme fw 800; the lynx
>> >(two)
>> >> >so
>> >> >> > >> > far is the closest to paris. i can only imagine what the
> aurora
>> >> >> > >> > sounds like.
>> >> >> > >> >
>> >> >> > >> > On Sat, 30 Jul 2005 15:37:05 +0200, "cyrille"
>> ><

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>> >> >> > >> > wrote:
>> >> >> > >> >
>> >> >> > >> > >hi all
>> >> >> > >> > >i'm looking for an 8 channel converters to add to my paris.
>> >> >> > >> > >i need something quite good, that doesn't decrease the
> overall
>> >> >sound
>> >> >> > >> quality
>> >> >> > >> > >of the rig.
>> >> >> > >> > >i saw frontier design tango 24
>> >> >> > >> > >seems quite cheap on s/h
>> >> >> > >> > >does any1 know this one or could recommend me something
> else
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mp;se=SE1" target="_blank"> http://www.melbournepubs.com/search?l=en&c=S21&q=303 &se=SE1

And just a short walk down the road is the Wesley Anne, and apparently an
old church converted into a bar. There's a beer garden out the back, and
two rooms, both of which look a bit like the one pictured, one with bands
and the other with the bar in it (shown)...

http://www.melbournepubs.com/v/667/Wesley-Anne.html

Cheers,
Kim."Aaron Allen" <nospam@not_here.dude> wrote:
>Find a cheapo controller and a used Roland JV-1010 half rack. Those make

>pretty decent sounds, are expandable and should be right there in your price

>range.

I've heard good things about those for the money, and it's probably well
suited in that you get a selection of good sounds from a company very experienced
in the field, and it will be full of useful presets rather than having to
mess with programming to get the sounds you want.

Would probably be easier though if you could find an actual keyboard "all
in one" solution though I guess.

Cheers,
Kim.I vote for Northcote, because you said you can get a house
there, and therefore have a slightly more proper recording
environment.

Plus that 2nd place looks like a good spot to get laid as a
result of going to lol

Neil




"Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>Here's some pics and writeups on a couple of the bars we went to the other
>night.
>
>This one is 303's... situated in between the "Northcote Social Club", a
>much talked
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Scottsdale Arizona tomorrow. Amy's having
> > some big problems. I'm praying in a pretty serious way right about now. I
> > need some rest to I'm posting this up and then I'm hitting the rack. It's
> > been a bad couple of days here. I hope I have some good news to report in
> a
> > few days. I'll likely be offline until the weekend.
> >
> > Deej
> >
> >OF course.. I hadn't even considered that option, I took for granted that
it's conductive and not to douse the chip... I think it even says so on the
packaging. Makes perfect sense when you think about the boom in 'do it
yourself' novice types.
AA

"Rod Lincoln" <rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com> wrote in message
news:42f8ab01$1@linux...
>
> Well there you go, thanks a bunch guys.
> Rod
> Chris Ludwig <chrisl@adkproaudio.com> wrote:
>>The grease is conductive so more prone to people screwing stuff up.
>>
>>The pads I always scrap off and apply thermal compound. I get better
>>heat reduction doing that.
>>
>>
>>Chris
>>
>>
>>Aaron Allen wrote:
>>> Only reason I can think of is if enough people got sloppy (and returned
>
>>> fried processors, pissed off about it) and didn't have good coverage
>>> with
>
>>> the compound, whereas the pad would have to completely cover. End user
> error
>>> IMO, but they may not want the hassles/liability of sloppy end user
>>> assembly.
>>>
>>> AA
>>>
>>>
>>> "Rod Lincoln" <rlincoln@kc.rr.com> wrote in message
>>> news:42f82755$1@linux...
>>>
>>>>I know, that's why I used it. But that's what it says on the AMD sight.
>
>>>>I'm
>>>>installing a Zalman CPU cooler that Chris Ludwig recomended and it
>>>>doesn't
>>>>look like it has a pad, so I guess I don't have a choice.
>>>>Rod
>>>>"Aaron Allen" <nospam@not_here.dude> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>interesting man... last few builds I've done for myself I've used artic
>>>>
>>>>>silver exclusively.. no hassles.
>>>>>AA
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>"Rod Lincoln" <rlincoln@kc.rr.com> wrote in message
>>>>>news:42f81e74$1@linux...
>>>>>
>>>>>>I was checking AMD's websight in preperation for a new computer build
>>>>
>>>>(not
>>>>
>>>>>>for me)and it says not to use thermal grease, only the pads...unless
>
>>>>>>your
>>>>>>doing testing work. I was under the impression that artic silver was
> the
>>>>>>way to go over thermal pads. Is that wrong????
>>>>>>Rod
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>--
>>Chris Ludwig
>>ADK
>>chrisl@adkproaudio.com <mailto:chrisl@adkproaudio.com>
>>www.adkproaudio.com <http://www.adkproaudio.com/>
>>(859) 635-5762
>prayers are sent

Stay positive
JM



>
>"DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote:
>>We're off to the Mayo Clinic in Scottsdale Arizona tomorrow. Amy's having
>>some big problems. I'm praying in a pretty serious way right about now.
>I
>>need some rest to I'm posting this up and then I'm hitting the rack. It's
>>been a bad couple of days here. I hope I have some good news to report
in
>a
>>few days. I'll likely be offline until the weekend.
>>
>>Deej
>>
>>
>On Mon, 8 Aug 2005 21:36:33 -0600, "DJ"
<animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote:

>We're off to the Mayo Clinic in Scottsdale Arizona tomorrow. Amy's having
>some big problems. I'm praying in a pretty serious way right about now. I
>need some rest to I'm posting this up and then I'm hitting the rack. It's
>been a bad couple of days here. I hope I have some good news to report in a
>few days. I'll likely be offline until the weekend.
>
>Deej
>

Count on us, brother. We're with you.

pabGood luck Deej..
Rob_A


"Paul Braun" <cygnus_nospam@ctgonline.org> wrote in message
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>
> On Mon, 8 Aug 2005 21:36:33 -0600, "DJ"
> <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote:
>
> >We're off to the Mayo Clinic in Scottsdale Arizona tomorrow. Amy's having
> >some big problems. I'm praying in a pretty serious way right about now. I
> >need some rest to I'm posting this up and then I'm hitting the rack. It's
> >been a bad couple of days here. I hope I have some good news to report in
a
> >few days. I'll likely be offline until the weekend.
> >
> >Deej
> >
>
> Count on us, brother. We're with you.
>
> pab
>
>"DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote in message
news:42f8246a@linux...
> We're off to the Mayo Clinic in Scottsdale Arizona tomorrow. Amy's having
> some big problems. I'm praying in a pretty serious way right about now. I
> need some rest to I'm posting this up and then I'm hitting the rack. It's
> been a bad couple of days here. I hope I have some good news to report in
a
> few days. I'll likely be offline until the weekend.
>
> Deej
>
>


Please accept a Mighty I Am call, demand and command for a room full of
blessings.


El MiguelPrayers and best wishes to both of you. Hope Amy gets well soon!

DannyHey Deej, my thoughts and prayers are with you and Amy. Keep up the strength
and the spirit my friend. I'll be saying a prayer tonight.

Ciao,
Rich

"The world wishes to be deceived." - Sebastian Franck (around 1500 A.D.)

"DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote in message
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> We're off to the Mayo Clinic in Scottsdale Arizona tomorrow. Amy's having
> some big problems. I'm praying in a pretty serious way right about now. I
> need some rest to I'm posting this up and then I'm hitting the rack. It's
> been a bad couple of days here. I hope I have some good news to report in
a
> few days. I'll likely be offline until the weekend.
>
> Deej
>
>Hey man,
I usually stripe SMPTE generated from Paris (set up your MIDI I/O ===.> MTC
to SMPTE === > 2" and vice versa ...
I get a little (but consistant) delay, but solid lock.
If you do this frequently though --- at least for a simple dump I'd just get
another Mec + Input card ...
I just use the sync thing for Overdub Slaves.
If you have anymore questions lemme know ...
Ted



"Dominic" <BERTSTUDIO@aol.com> wrote in message news:42f9124f$1@linux...
>
> Hello fellow Parisites.........
> I just completed restoring an Ampex MM1200, now what to do?
> Iam running PARIS with two EDS cards Iam going to sync them
> has anyone had any experience with this type of set up and what
> are you doing? Rerecording your anolog tracks in Paris? or
> syncing them and playing back all together. By the way Ive been
> recording on PARIS for over 5yrs with good results but hearing
> wide band analog tracks reminds me of what music was when I was
> growing up. It's a shame whats happened to our industry... oh
> well thats another story.
> Thanx again
> Dominic
> Sanctuary StudiosHey Dan,
I read that somebody from the NG called ID to follow up about the letter and
they received a civil response from ID. Given the history... that seems
positive. I don't know if we could get our names on anything?

I appreciate the reply
Thanks!
Perrin


in article 42f75381$1@linux, db at daniel_burne@yahoo.com wrote on 8/8/05
7:43 AM:

>
> Hi Perrin,
>
> 'Fraid I can't help with the skins (although it rings a bell - I'm fairly
> sure at least one person was working with a differently skinner Paris).
>
> Unfortunately I also missed the letter to ID (having also been away for a
> while). Reckon it's worth us sending a belated update with our names (that
> way we might passed the magic 100 barrier)...? Was there any response?
>
> Cheers,
> Dan
>
> "Perrin" <captainperrin@atyahoo.com> wrote:
>> I haven't checked in since October! - I got fired, moved, lost a drummer,
>> wife & I had a baby girl (well, she did all the work) got a new job, got
> a
>> new drummer...Paris has been collecting dust until now.
>>
>> Wow, lots o' intersting stuff going on here:
>> -saw the letter to ID...very cool, wish I had checkd in to sign it...sorry
>> -Skins! finally, it looks like this has been figured out.
>> I've read just about every thread I could find to catch up on what has
>> happened with the skins.
>> I teach Photoshop at a college - so I'm ok on the editing and bit depth
>> etc...
>> BUT
>> where are these .bmp files? Are they embedded in the .exe?
>> How does one get to these?
>>
>> I already did a search and I pray I'm not kicking a kicked horse.
>> Those of you who know me via the NG know that I rarely ask any
>> questions...when I do, I'm really stuck.
>> I've been trying to get rid of that golden eyesore for quite some time now
>> and I really like the skins I've seen. Just need to know the process.
>>
>> Any pointers would be appreciated! We don't have Paris 4 now (wink wink)or
>> anything really exciting that I missed...do we??
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Perrin
>>
>>
>Hi Stephen,

Wow! Thanks...I'll go check it out. I also have very little time, but I'll
see what I can do. This is very exciting.
I have already encountered the awesome power of Streamline being merged with
illustrator CS2 - I teach PS & Illus courses and, man, it is really hard to
keep the students from auto tracing photos. I can tell that they didn't do
them by hand, but it's getting harder to notice the differences. The CS
version had a horrible auto trace, but the students figured out to us Flash
for better results.

Again, thanks for the info and YES when I dig around I just might have a few
more ?s for ya.

Perrin


in article 42f76437@linux, Stephen Stecyk at smp@smppro.com wrote on 8/8/05
8:53 AM:

> Hey Perrin,
>
> To get to the bitmaps, you will need a little program called PE Explorer,
> which is available at www.heaventools.com .
> It has a 30 day time limit, but is a much more smooth program to work with
> than the one mention in previous posts (the problem being that the 8 bit
> bitmaps would retain the original palette, so if you changed the color
> scheme drastically, it made things look really off). Once you have the PE
> Explorer, you can go into the Paris.exe file (make sure you work on a copy
> of the original file, rather than the original itself) and browse around for
> the bitmaps. Simply save them, work on them, then replace them. It
> actually really cool once you get something completed - I just don't have
> time to presently. If you have any questions, feel free to give me a shout.
>
> Stephen
>
> P.S. Live trace in Illustrator CS2 is a GREAT thing.
>
>
> "Perrin" <captainperrin@atyahoo.com> wrote in message news:42f533f5@linux...
>> I haven't checked in since October! - I got fired, moved, lost a drummer,
>> wife & I had a baby girl (well, she did all the work) got a new job, got a
>> new drummer...Paris has been collecting dust until now.
>>
>> Wow, lots o' intersting stuff going on here:
>> -saw the letter to ID...very cool, wish I had checkd in to sign it...sorry
>> -Skins! finally, it looks like this has been figured out.
>> I've read just about every thread I could find to catch up on what has
>> happened with the skins.
>> I teach Photoshop at a college - so I'm ok on the editing and bit depth
>> etc...
>> BUT
>> where are these .bmp files? Are they embedded in the .exe?
>> How does one get to these?
>>
>> I already did a search and I pray I'm not kicking a kicked horse.
>> Those of you who know me via the NG know that I rarely ask any
>> questions...when I do, I'm really stuck.
>> I've been trying to get rid of that golden eyesore for quite some time now
>> and I really like the skins I've seen. Just need to know the process.
>>
>> Any pointers would be appreciated! We don't have Paris 4 now (wink wink)or
>> anything really exciting that I missed...do we??
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Perrin
>>
>>
>
>Markertek's got the L4E6S Canare Quad Star at almost half the price of the
W2549 Mogami; priced by the foot.

Dubya

"DC" <DC@steenkingbadgers.com> wrote in message news:42f86edd$1@linux...
>
> The source, receiving unit, and input/output impedance are
> much more important than the cable. With mics, with proper
> termination, cables don't make as big a difference as with guitars.
>
> Having said that, recording orchestras will show you quickly that
> even a little change can make a difference.
>
> I like Cardas, Zaolla, and Mogami mic cables, but I would look at the
> whole signal chain before buying an expensive cable. (the Mogami
> W2549 is not expensive and is very good, the others are good but
> very expensive)
>
> Where can I find good Greek food in Los Angeles??
>
> :-]
>
> DC
>
>
> DImitrios <musurgio@otenet.gr> wrote:
>>I have used for the last 4 years Ramtech cable and I am striving to get
>
>>that warm sound I used to get when I was using in my older studio Klotz
>
>>cable.
>>I am definetely sure that the cabling is responsible for that.
>>I get now this trebly zingy kind of sound when with Klotz I had a
>>flatter warmer sound.
>>Anyone sharing any thoughts tests on this matter ?
>>Any suggestion as per cable brand ?
>>Regards,
>>Dimitrios
>Anyone watching this show?

Couple of things -- if I see one more singer holding the mic "rap
style" by cupping the ball, I'm gonna scream. These are all
supposedly professional singers. They should know better.

The house band rocks.

I've completely changed my opinion of Dave Navarro as a person. As a
musician, I'm still not into his work. But as a person, he's warm,
genuine, and articulate -- far from the tattoo'd circus freak he
appears to be.

Also noticed tonight that they're using monitor wedges by SLS -- the
same company that made my FOH boxen and wedges at the theatre.
Horn-loaded ribbon HF drivers -- damn, those things are sweet..
Everyone who's played there since I hung those has loved 'em.

Just random thoughts.

I only started watching because I had seen Ty Taylor in "We Will Rock
You" in Vegas.

I was never an INXS fan.

pab"Boxen"

Thanks Paul; this has got to be one of the best malapropisms I've seen in a
while.

Dubya


"Paul Braun" wrote:
> same company that made my FOH boxen and wedges at the theatre.Just a note on thermal pads: I recently tried to remove an Athlon 64 chip
that had been installed a day earlier with the supplied pad and couldn't get
the heat sink off. I pulled with force until the chip came out of the
socket with the pins locked down. That would never happen with grease.

"Aaron Allen" <nospam@not_here.dude> wrote in message news:42f93906@linux...
> OF course.. I hadn't even considered that option, I took for granted that
> it's conductive and not to douse the chip... I think it even says so on
the
> packaging. Makes perfect sense when you think about the boom in 'do it
> yourself' novice types.
> AA
>
> "Rod Lincoln" <rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com> wrote in message
> news:42f8ab01$1@linux...
> >
> > Well there you go, thanks a bunch guys.
> > Rod
> > Chris Ludwig <chrisl@adkproaudio.com> wrote:
> >>The grease is conductive so more prone to people screwing stuff up.
> >>
> >>The pads I always scrap off and apply thermal compound. I get better
> >>heat reduction doing that.
> >>
> >>
> >>Chris
> >>
> >>
> >>Aaron Allen wrote:
> >>> Only reason I can think of is if enough people got sloppy (and
returned
> >
> >>> fried processors, pissed off about it) and didn't have good coverage
> >>> with
> >
> >>> the compound, whereas the pad would have to completely cover. End user
> > error
> >>> IMO, but they may not want the hassles/liability of sloppy end user
> >>> assembly.
> >>>
> >>> AA
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> "Rod Lincoln" <rlincoln@kc.rr.com> wrote in message
> >>> news:42f82755$1@linux...
> >>>
> >>>>I know, that's why I used it. But that's what it says on the AMD
sight.
> >
> >>>>I'm
> >>>>installing a Zalman CPU cooler that Chris Ludwig recomended and it
> >>>>doesn't
> >>>>look like it has a pad, so I guess I don't have a choice.
> >>>>Rod
> >>>>"Aaron Allen" <nospam@not_here.dude> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>>interesting man... last few builds I've done for myself I've used
artic
> >>>>
> >>>>>silver exclusively.. no hassles.
> >>>>>AA
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>"Rod Lincoln" <rlincoln@kc.rr.com> wrote in message
> >>>>>news:42f81e74$1@linux...
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>I was checking AMD's websight in preperation for a new computer
build
> >>>>
> >>>>(not
> >>>>
> >>>>>>for me)and it says not to use thermal grease, only the pads...unless
> >
> >>>>>>your
> >>>>>>doing testing work. I was under the impression that artic silver was
> > the
> >>>>>>way to go over thermal pads. Is that wrong????
> >>>>>>Rod
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> >>--
> >>Chris Ludwig
> >>ADK
> >>chrisl@adkproaudio.com <mailto:chrisl@adkproaudio.com>
> >>www.adkproaudio.com <http://www.adkproaudio.com/>
> >>(859) 635-5762
> >
>
>DJ had posted earlier about using the Nady Ribbon mic
and really liking it. I ended up buying some of the
(basically) same mics badged by Shiny Box, and am also
liking them a lot. I have some Royers, and they are
different mics than the SB. Jon, the owner (and by the way,
a great guy to work with) says they are a lot more like
a RCA 44, and I would agree with that. I cut some great
sounding acoustic guitars with them recently, and am very
happy, especially with the price (165$ for the mic, and he
just came out with a new smaller body for 150$), and they come
with a nice bag and case, too...

Check it out: www.shinybox.comHave seen that one before, but it was on a overheated chip that had been
beat to death by a bad fan. Any chance that is what happened with your
situation, bad fan/airflow? If not, that's really quite disappointing.
Hopefully it didn't rip out any pins man. And you're absolutely right that
would have never happened with grease.
AA

"RZ" <pearlmusic@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message news:42f988c3$1@linux...
> Just a note on thermal pads: I recently tried to remove an Athlon 64 chip
> that had been installed a day earlier with the supplied pad and couldn't
> get
> the heat sink off. I pulled with force until the chip came out of the
> socket with the pins locked down. That would never happen with grease.
>
> "Aaron Allen" <nospam@not_here.dude> wrote in message
> news:42f93906@linux...
>> OF course.. I hadn't even considered that option, I took for granted that
>> it's conductive and not to douse the chip... I think it even says so on
> the
>> packaging. Makes perfect sense when you think about the boom in 'do it
>> yourself' novice types.
>> AA
>>
>> "Rod Lincoln" <rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com> wrote in message
>> news:42f8ab01$1@linux...
>> >
>> > Well there you go, thanks a bunch guys.
>> > Rod
>> > Chris Ludwig <chrisl@adkproaudio.com> wrote:
>> >>The grease is conductive so more prone to people screwing stuff up.
>> >>
>> >>The pads I always scrap off and apply thermal compound. I get better
>> >>heat reduction doing that.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>Chris
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>Aaron Allen wrote:
>> >>> Only reason I can think of is if enough people got sloppy (and
> returned
>> >
>> >>> fried processors, pissed off about it) and didn't have good coverage
>> >>> with
>> >
>> >>> the compound, whereas the pad would have to completely cover. End
>> >>> user
>> > error
>> >>> IMO, but they may not want the hassles/liability of sloppy end user
>> >>> assembly.
>> >>>
>> >>> AA
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> "Rod Lincoln" <rlincoln@kc.rr.com> wrote in message
>> >>> news:42f82755$1@linux...
>> >>>
>> >>>>I know, that's why I used it. But that's what it says on the AMD
> sight.
>> >
>> >>>>I'm
>> >>>>installing a Zalman CPU cooler that Chris Ludwig recomended and it
>> >>>>doesn't
>> >>>>look like it has a pad, so I guess I don't have a choice.
>> >>>>Rod
>> >>>>"Aaron Allen" <nospam@not_here.dude> wrote:
>> >>>>
>> >>>>>interesting man... last few builds I've done for myself I've used
> artic
>> >>>>
>> >>>>>silver exclusively.. no hassles.
>> >>>>>AA
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>"Rod Lincoln" <rlincoln@kc.rr.com> wrote in message
>> >>>>>news:42f81e74$1@linux...
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>>I was checking AMD's websight in preperation for a new computer
> build
>> >>>>
>> >>>>(not
>> >>>>
>> >>>>>>for me)and it says not to use thermal grease, only the
>> >>>>>>pads...unless
>> >
>> >>>>>>your
>> >>>>>>doing testing work. I was under the impression that artic silver
>> >>>>>>was
>> > the
>> >>>>>>way to go over thermal pads. Is that wrong????
>> >>>>>>Rod
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>
>> >>--
>> >>Chris Ludwig
>> >>ADK
>> >>chrisl@adkproaudio.com <mailto:chrisl@adkproaudio.com>
>> >>www.adkproaudio.com <http://www.adkproaudio.com/>
>> >>(859) 635-5762
>> >
>>
>>
>
>I pray the Lord cover you and your family with His abundant grace and mercy.
Peace.

RZ


"DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote in message
news:42f92260$1@linux...
> Thanks everyone. Amy isn't up for a 9 hour drive today so we've regrouped
> and are flying out to Phoenix in the morning. I have read all the posts
and
> I appreciate them all. I've been scurrying around suince yesterday trying
to
> arrange to keep the boat afloat while we're gone and I'm just about there.
> I'm not sure when we'll be back but hopefully it will be a short visit.
>
> You guys are the best,
>
> Deej
>
> "DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote in message
> news:42f8246a@linux...
> > We're off to the Mayo Clinic in Scottsdale Arizona tomorrow. Amy's
having
> > some big problems. I'm praying in a pretty serious way right about now.
I
> > need some rest to I'm posting this up and then I'm hitting the rack.
It's
> > been a bad couple of days here. I hope I have some good news to report
in
> a
> > few days. I'll likely be offline until the weekend.
> >
> > Deej
> >
> >
>
>Hey DJ,

Our prayers from Vancouver are with you and Amy..

May God be with you both in comfort and healing.

Cheers,

TC

DJ wrote:
> We're off to the Mayo Clinic in Scottsdale Arizona tomorrow. Amy's having
> some big problems. I'm praying in a pretty serious way right about now. I
> need some rest to I'm posting this up and then I'm hitting the rack. It's
> been a bad couple of days here. I hope I have some good news to report in a
> few days. I'll likely be offline until the weekend.
>
> Deej
>
>Thanks for the heads up John.

Dubya

"John Macy" <spamlessjohn@johnmacy.com> wrote in message
news:42f98975$1@linux...
>
> DJ had posted earlier about using the Nady Ribbon mic
> and really liking it. I ended up buying some of the
> (basically) same mics badged by Shiny Box, and am also
> liking them a lot. I have some Royers, and they are
> different mics than the SB. Jon, the owner (and by the way,
> a great guy to work with) says they are a lot more like
> a RCA 44, and I would agree with that. I cut some great
> sounding acoustic guitars with them recently, and am very
> happy, especially with the price (165$ for the mic, and he
> just came out with a new smaller body for 150$), and they come
> with a nice bag and case, too...
>
> Check it out: www.shinybox.com....or a pry bar !!!

Dubya

> I pulled with force until the chip came out of the
> socket with the pins locked down. That would never happen with grease."Paul Braun" <cygnus_nospam@ctgonline.org> wrote in message
news:1auif11fkr6dv4od0ijuvgetrnvlt83ib5@4ax.com...

> I've completely changed my opinion of Dave Navarro as a person. As a
> musician, I'm still not into his work.

dudes a frikkin genius guitar player

I doubt I'd be caught dead watchin that show.Paul Braun <cygnus_nospam@ctgonline.org> wrote:
>Anyone watching this show?

I've caught parts of a couple of episodes, but it does't hold
my interest all that long.

>I've completely changed my opinion of Dave Navarro as a person. As a
>musician, I'm still not into his work. But as a person, he's warm,
>genuine, and articulate -- far from the tattoo'd circus freak he
>appears to be.

I'm not into much of the stuff he's done, but I think he's a
pretty solid player - definitely no wanker, that's for sure.

>I was never an INXS fan.

Me either, never got into them at all.

Neil"W. Mark Wilson" <wmarkwilson@verizon.net> wrote:
>"Boxen"
>
>Thanks Paul; this has got to be one of the best malapropisms I've seen in
a while.

It would be German for the plural of "box". :)

NeilWow I never thought he was above adequate, Jane's was more about stylism than
anything. And he wasn't that good at all with the Chilli's I have not heard
the solos stuff though


"justcron" <justcron@hydrorecords.compound> wrote:
>
>"Paul Braun" <cygnus_nospam@ctgonline.org> wrote in message
>news:1auif11fkr6dv4od0ijuvgetrnvlt83ib5@4ax.com...
>
>> I've completely changed my opinion of Dave Navarro as a person. As a
>> musician, I'm still not into his work.
>
>dudes a frikkin genius guitar player
>
>I doubt I'd be caught dead watchin that show.
>
>On 10 Aug 2005 22:32:12 +1000, "Neil" <IIOU@IU.com> wrote:

>
>Paul Braun <cygnus_nospam@ctgonline.org> wrote:
>>Anyone watching this show?
>
>I've caught parts of a couple of episodes, but it does't hold
>my interest all that long.
>
I usually don't watch reality stuff at all. Just started watching
because we'd seen the one guy up close and personal -- we somehow
ended up with front row, almost center tix for WWRY.

>>I've completely changed my opinion of Dave Navarro as a person. As a
>>musician, I'm still not into his work. But as a person, he's warm,
>>genuine, and articulate -- far from the tattoo'd circus freak he
>>appears to be.
>
>I'm not into much of the stuff he's done, but I think he's a
>pretty solid player - definitely no wanker, that's for sure.
>
And I also haven't heard solo material. I may have to give it a listen
-- Jane's and RHCP did absolutely nothing for me.

I'm very good friends with his cousin Dan Navarro, of Lowen & Navarro,
so I've gotten some skinny on him from a family perspective, and he is
actually a warm, genuine person. And he's sleeping with Carmen
Electra. Hard to fault him for that....


pab

"Enjoy every sandwich." -- Warren Zevon

"Here at Microsoft, Quality is job, oh, I dunno, maybe 7 or 8?"On Tue, 9 Aug 2005 21:04:27 -0700, "W. Mark Wilson"
<wmarkwilson@verizon.net> wrote:

>"Boxen"
>
>Thanks Paul; this has got to be one of the best malapropisms I've seen in a
>while.
>

Thanks. Amongst the live sound ng I hang with, it's a
commonly-accepted plural of boxes.

pab

"Enjoy every sandwich." -- Warren Zevon

"Here at Microsoft, Quality is job, oh, I dunno, maybe 7 or 8?"uhh... guys... if you consider yourself some type of high falootin musical
guitar critic... dont bother checking out the solo material either...

jeez...it's like talking with someone that says Jimi Hendrix sucks or
something... what do you do with THAT??


"Paul Braun" <cygnus_diespamdie@ctgonline.org> wrote in message
news:42fa0788.1821399@218.214.23.222...
> On 10 Aug 2005 22:32:12 +1000, "Neil" <IIOU@IU.com> wrote:
>
>>
>>Paul Braun <cygnus_nospam@ctgonline.org> wrote:
>>>Anyone watching this show?
>>
>>I've caught parts of a couple of episodes, but it does't hold
>>my interest all that long.
>>
> I usually don't watch reality stuff at all. Just started watching
> because we'd seen the one guy up close and personal -- we somehow
> ended up with front row, almost center tix for WWRY.
>
>>>I've completely changed my opinion of Dave Navarro as a person. As a
>>>musician, I'm still not into his work. But as a person, he's warm,
>>>genuine, and articulate -- far from the tattoo'd circus freak he
>>>appears to be.
>>
>>I'm not into much of the stuff he's done, but I think he's a
>>pretty solid player - definitely no wanker, that's for sure.
>>
> And I also haven't heard solo material. I may have to give it a listen
> -- Jane's and RHCP did absolutely nothing for me.
>
> I'm very good friends with his cousin Dan Navarro, of Lowen & Navarro,
> so I've gotten some skinny on him from a family perspective, and he is
> actually a warm, genuine person. And he's sleeping with Carmen
> Electra. Hard to fault him for that....
>
>
> pab
>
> "Enjoy every sandwich." -- Warren Zevon
>
> "Here at Microsoft, Quality is job, oh, I dunno, maybe 7 or 8?"My heart and thoughts go out to you both Doug.
Strength to you, and my heartfelt wishes for something good to come for Amy.
Peace
jef



DJ wrote:

>We're off to the Mayo Clinic in Scottsdale Arizona tomorrow. Amy's having
>some big problems. I'm praying in a pretty serious way right about now. I
>need some rest to I'm posting this up and then I'm hitting the rack. It's
>been a bad couple of days here. I hope I have some good news to report in a
>few days. I'll likely be offline until the weekend.
>
>Deej
>
>
>
>Where does Horizon rank in there?

Just curious...;)
Jimmy


"gene lennon" <glennon@NOSPmyrealbox.com> wrote in message
news:42f857bf$1@linux...
>
> DImitrios <musurgio@otenet.gr> wrote:
> >I have used for the last 4 years Ramtech cable and I am striving to get
>
> >that warm sound I used to get when I was using in my older studio Klotz
>
> >cable.
> >I am definetely sure that the cabling is responsible for that.
> >I get now this trebly zingy kind of sound when with Klotz I had a
> >flatter warmer sound.
> >Anyone sharing any thoughts tests on this matter ?
> >Any suggestion as per cable brand ?
> >Regards,
> >Dimitrios
>
> Mogami, Canare, Supra, Klotz - GOOD
>
> Belden - OK
>
> Monster, C.B.I. - Fair
>
> Whirlwind, Proco, etc -BAD!
> GeneThis is a multi-part message in MIME format.

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W.,
That Canare Quad is a real drag to unwrap the shield but is
great cable. I moved to Mogami because of that.
Tom
"W. Mark Wilson" <wmarkwilson@verizon.net> wrote in message =
news:42f97a37$1@linux...
Markertek's got the L4E6S Canare Quad Star at almost half the price of =
the=20
W2549 Mogami; priced by the foot.

Dubya

"DC" <DC@steenkingbadgers.com> wrote in message =
news:42f86edd$1@linux...
>
> The source, receiving unit, and input/output impedance are
> much more important than the cable. With mics, with proper
> termination, cables don't make as big a difference as with guitars.
>
> Having said that, recording orchestras will show you quickly that
> even a little change can make a difference.
>
> I like Cardas, Zaolla, and Mogami mic cables, but I would look at =
the
> whole signal chain before buying an expensive cable. (the Mogami
> W2549 is not expensive and is very good, the others are good but
> very expensive)
>
> Where can I find good Greek food in Los Angeles??
>
> :-]
>
> DC
>
>
> DImitrios <musurgio@otenet.gr> wrote:
>>I have used for the last 4 years Ramtech cable and I am striving to =
get
>
>>that warm sound I used to get when I was using in my older studio =
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>
>>cable.
>>I am definetely sure that the cabling is responsible for that.
>>I get now this trebly zingy kind of sound when with Klotz I had a
>>flatter warmer sound.
>>Anyone sharing any thoughts tests on this matter ?
>>Any suggestion as per cable brand ?
>>Regards,
>>Dimitrios
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At long runs, it rolls off the extreme highs.

For 25' mic cords it shouldn't be an issue.

DC


"W. Mark Wilson" <wmarkwilson@verizon.net> wrote:
>Markertek's got the L4E6S Canare Quad Star at almost half the price of the

>W2549 Mogami; priced by the foot.
>
>Dubya
>
>"DC" <DC@steenkingbadgers.com> wrote in message news:42f86edd$1@linux...
>>
>> The source, receiving unit, and input/output impedance are
>> much more important than the cable. With mics, with proper
>> termination, cables don't make as big a difference as with guitars.
>>
>> Having said that, recording orchestras will show you quickly that
>> even a little change can make a difference.
>>
>> I like Cardas, Zaolla, and Mogami mic cables, but I would look at the
>> whole signal chain before buying an expensive cable. (the Mogami
>> W2549 is not expensive and is very good, the others are good but
>> very expensive)
>>
>> Where can I find good Greek food in Los Angeles??
>>
>> :-]
>>
>> DC
>>
>>
>> DImitrios <musurgio@otenet.gr> wrote:
>>>I have used for the last 4 years Ramtech cable and I am striving to get
>>
>>>that warm sound I used to get when I was using in my older studio Klotz
>>
>>>cable.
>>>I am definetely sure that the cabling is responsible for that.
>>>I get now this trebly zingy kind of sound when with Klotz I had a
>>>flatter warmer sound.
>>>Anyone sharing any thoughts tests on this matter ?
>>>Any suggestion as per cable brand ?
>>>Regards,
>>>Dimitrios
>>
>
>That's a good thing though... it'll smooth out them screeeechy fiddles
you record! ;-)

David.

DC wrote:
> We are moving away from Canare because of the high capacitance.
> At long runs, it rolls off the extreme highs.
>
> For 25' mic cords it shouldn't be an issue.
>
> DC
>
>
> "W. Mark Wilson" <wmarkwilson@verizon.net> wrote:
>
>>Markertek's got the L4E6S Canare Quad Star at almost half the price of the
>
>
>>W2549 Mogami; priced by the foot.
>>
>>Dubya
>>
>>"DC" <DC@steenkingbadgers.com> wrote in message news:42f86edd$1@linux...
>>
>>>The source, receiving unit, and input/output impedance are
>>>much more important than the cable. With mics, with proper
>>>termination, cables don't make as big a difference as with guitars.
>>>
>>>Having said that, recording orchestras will show you quickly that
>>>even a little change can make a difference.
>>>
>>>I like Cardas, Zaolla, and Mogami mic cables, but I would look at the
>>>whole signal chain before buying an expensive cable. (the Mogami
>>>W2549 is not expensive and is very good, the others are good but
>>>very expensive)
>>>
>>>Where can I find good Greek food in Los Angeles??
>>>
>>>:-]
>>>
>>>DC
>>>
>>>
>>>DImitrios <musurgio@otenet.gr> wrote:
>>>
>>>>I have used for the last 4 years Ramtech cable and I am striving to get
>>>
>>>>that warm sound I used to get when I was using in my older studio Klotz
>>>
>>>>cable.
>>>>I am definetely sure that the cabling is responsible for that.
>>>>I get now this trebly zingy kind of sound when with Klotz I had a
>>>>flatter warmer sound.
>>>>Anyone sharing any thoughts tests on this matter ?
>>>>Any suggestion as per cable brand ?
>>>>Regards,
>>>>Dimitrios
>>>
>>
>I wonder if those 20 bit Apogee DA1000 which were a standard some years
ago are better than modern 24 bit DA's (not the very best ones)
I use my RME's ADI-PRO8 as a DA section.
So could these "only" 20 bits take away from my mixing hearing ?
I record 16 bit inside Paris but Paris uses 24bit inside...
Thanks
DimitriosHi DJ,

All my hopes and wishes are with you and Amy.

Mike


"DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote:
>We're off to the Mayo Clinic in Scottsdale Arizona tomorrow. Amy's having
>some big problems. I'm praying in a pretty serious way right about now.
I
>need some rest to I'm posting this up and then I'm hitting the rack. It's
>been a bad couple of days here. I hope I have some good news to report in
a
>few days. I'll likely be offline until the weekend.
>
>Deej
>
>Add me to the pile sending positive thoughts and best wishes for a
speedy recovery!!

David.

DJ wrote:

> We're off to the Mayo Clinic in Scottsdale Arizona tomorrow. Amy's having
> some big problems. I'm praying in a pretty serious way right about now. I
> need some rest to I'm posting this up and then I'm hitting the rack. It's
> been a bad couple of days here. I hope I have some good news to report in a
> few days. I'll likely be offline until the weekend.
>
> Deej
>
>I'm starting to look around for a couple of small diaphragm condensers. I
don't have a big budget for these at the moment - trying to keep it between
$500 - $1000 for the pair.

I thought about the Studio Projects C4, but haven't heard any feedback on
them from someone who uses them in the real world. Then I saw a couple of
Peluso mics - CEM6 - that looked promising. I read on this NG that someone
had bought some Peluso capsules, and I was curious as to how they are
working for you..

David L"uptown jimmy" <johnson314@bellsouth.net> wrote:
>Where does Horizon rank in there?
>
>Just curious...;)
>Jimmy

I’ve heard good things about the Horizon V-Flex series bulk cable, but I
don’t have any personal experience.
GeneMuch Prayer for you both.
God Bless,
Jeff

"DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote:
>We're off to the Mayo Clinic in Scottsdale Arizona tomorrow. Amy's having
>some big problems. I'm praying in a pretty serious way right about now.
I
>need some rest to I'm posting this up and then I'm hitting the rack. It's
>been a bad couple of days here. I hope I have some good news to report in
a
>few days. I'll likely be offline until the weekend.
>
>Deej
>
>Nope, you got me wrong there,
Ok, I am a guitar snob but not inso far as guitar guys must be virtuosos.
I love Hendrix, but also Townshend and Richards, Neil Young mid 70's guys
like Tom Verlain and even Paul Weller of The Jam or hows about some Johnny
Marr or Billy Zoom or Bob Stinson of The Replacements Will Seargent of Echo
and The Bunnymen or evenn The Edge ..I could go on, some of the guys are
technical, some are not, but all of em are honest and heart felt, as well
as inovative, and most of all have somehting to say to me. Navaro always
seems like an after thought in Janes ( he looks good I guess), Perry and
that drummer were the best part. Hillel Slovack and John Fruchante (sp?)
were much better in RHCP, my opinion of course

He just seems like a kid in a guitar center with a chorus and boss distortion
and does not hold a candle to some of these.

Gimme greg Ginn or old J. mascis anyday. I'd rathe rlisten o Willie Nelson
on theat old banged up nylon.

Sorry to go so far with this, but you have stumbled across one of my fave
driking night debates, really this exact topic.


P.S. I also really think that in todays world with out 35 years of myth building
many people who walked in on Hendrix perfoming at a tuesday night open mic
would turn around and walk out.

"justcron" <justcron@hydrorecords.compound> wrote:
>uhh... guys... if you consider yourself some type of high falootin musical

>guitar critic... dont bother checking out the solo material either...
>
>jeez...it's like talking with someone that says Jimi Hendrix sucks or
>something... what do you do with THAT??
>
>
>"Paul Braun" <cygnus_diespamdie@ctgonline.org> wrote in message
>news:42fa0788.1821399@218.214.23.222...
>> On 10 Aug 2005 22:32:12 +1000, "Neil" <IIOU@IU.com> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>Paul Braun <cygnus_nospam@ctgonline.org> wrote:
>>>>Anyone watching this show?
>>>
>>>I've caught parts of a couple of episodes, but it does't hold
>>>my interest all that long.
>>>
>> I usually don't watch reality stuff at all. Just started watching
>> because we'd seen the one guy up close and personal -- we somehow
>> ended up with front row, almost center tix for WWRY.
>>
>>>>I've completely changed my opinion of Dave Navarro as a person. As a
>>>>musician, I'm still not into his work. But as a person, he's warm,
>>>>genuine, and articulate -- far from the tattoo'd circus freak he
>>>>appears to be.
>>>
>>>I'm not into much of the stuff he's done, but I think he's a
>>>pretty solid player - definitely no wanker, that's for sure.
>>>
>> And I also haven't heard solo material. I may have to give it a listen
>> -- Jane's and RHCP did absolutely nothing for me.
>>
>> I'm very good friends with his cousin Dan Navarro, of Lowen & Navarro,
>> so I've gotten some skinny on him from a family perspective, and he is
>> actually a warm, genuine person. And he's sleeping with Carmen
>> Electra. Hard to fault him for that....
>>
>>
>> pab
>>
>> "Enjoy every sandwich." -- Warren Zevon
>>
>> "Here at Microsoft, Quality is job, oh, I dunno, maybe 7 or 8?"
>
>Crap, I forgot Alex Chilton, Joey Santiago, Jimi Page, ANdy Summers, Mick
Taylor, and above all Joe Strummmer and Mick Jones as guys who played with
beauty and lack of histrionics


"Cujo" <chris@nospamapplemanstudio.com> wrote:
>
>
>Nope, you got me wrong there,
>Ok, I am a guitar snob but not inso far as guitar guys must be virtuosos.
>I love Hendrix, but also Townshend and Richards, Neil Young mid 70's guys
>like Tom Verlain and even Paul Weller of The Jam or hows about some Johnny
>Marr or Billy Zoom or Bob Stinson of The Replacements Will Seargent of Echo
>and The Bunnymen or evenn The Edge ..I could go on, some of the guys are
>technical, some are not, but all of em are honest and heart felt, as well
>as inovative, and most of all have somehting to say to me. Navaro always
>seems like an after thought in Janes ( he looks good I guess), Perry and
>that drummer were the best part. Hillel Slovack and John Fruchante (sp?)
>were much better in RHCP, my opinion of course
>
>He just seems like a kid in a guitar center with a chorus and boss distortion
>and does not hold a candle to some of these.
>
>Gimme greg Ginn or old J. mascis anyday. I'd rathe rlisten o Willie Nelson
>on theat old banged up nylon.
>
>Sorry to go so far with this, but you have stumbled across one of my fave
>driking night debates, really this exact topic.
>
>
>P.S. I also really think that in todays world with out 35 years of myth
building
>many people who walked in on Hendrix perfoming at a tuesday night open mic
>would turn around and walk out.
>
>"justcron" <justcron@hydrorecords.compound> wrote:
>>uhh... guys... if you consider yourself some type of high falootin musical
>
>>guitar critic... dont bother checking out the solo material either...
>>
>>jeez...it's like talking with someone that says Jimi Hendrix sucks or
>>something... what do you do with THAT??
>>
>>
>>"Paul Braun" <cygnus_diespamdie@ctgonline.org> wrote in message
>>news:42fa0788.1821399@218.214.23.222...
>>> On 10 Aug 2005 22:32:12 +1000, "Neil" <IIOU@IU.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>Paul Braun <cygnus_nospam@ctgonline.org> wrote:
>>>>>Anyone watching this show?
>>>>
>>>>I've caught parts of a couple of episodes, but it does't hold
>>>>my interest all that long.
>>>>
>>> I usually don't watch reality stuff at all. Just started watching
>>> because we'd seen the one guy up close and personal -- we somehow
>>> ended up with front row, almost center tix for WWRY.
>>>
>>>>>I've completely changed my opinion of Dave Navarro as a person. As
a
>>>>>musician, I'm still not into his work. But as a person, he's warm,
>>>>>genuine, and articulate -- far from the tattoo'd circus freak he
>>>>>appears to be.
>>>>
>>>>I'm not into much of the stuff he's done, but I think he's a
>>>>pretty solid player - definitely no wanker, that's for sure.
>>>>
>>> And I also haven't heard solo material. I may have to give it a listen
>>> -- Jane's and RHCP did absolutely nothing for me.
>>>
>>> I'm very good friends with his cousin Dan Navarro, of Lowen & Navarro,
>>> so I've gotten some skinny on him from a family perspective, and he is
>>> actually a warm, genuine person. And he's sleeping with Carmen
>>> Electra. Hard to fault him for that....
>>>
>>>
>>> pab
>>>
>>> "Enjoy every sandwich." -- Warren Zevon
>>>
>>> "Here at Microsoft, Quality is job, oh, I dunno, maybe 7 or 8?"
>>
>>"justcron" <justcron@hydrorecords.compound> wrote:
>uhh... guys... if you consider yourself some type of high falootin musical

>guitar critic... dont bother checking out the solo material either...

"Guys"? Didn't I just get done saying I thoguht he was pretty
solid player?

NeilOur thoughts and prayers are with you

Casey & family

"DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote in message
news:42f8246a@linux...
> We're off to the Mayo Clinic in Scottsdale Arizona tomorrow. Amy's having
> some big problems. I'm praying in a pretty serious way right about now. I
> need some rest to I'm posting this up and then I'm hitting the rack. It's
> been a bad couple of days here. I hope I have some good news to report in
a
> few days. I'll likely be offline until the weekend.
>
> Deej
>
>"Cujo" <chris@nospamapplemanstudio.com> wrote in message
news:42fa8fbf$1@linux...

> P.S. I also really think that in todays world with out 35 years of myth
> building
> many people who walked in on Hendrix perfoming at a tuesday night open mic
> would turn around and walk out.

who knows man...

debating musical taste is as futile as debating politics, but you must be
some type of elite player to sit in judgement of any of the great guitar
players.

Have you even seen dude live? One of his gifts is to play the riffs with
such life. What sounds standard on the album takes on some serious depth
when you hear it life...

just my 2 cents... theres no way you can hammer into someones head that a
certain artist is good.naw man I was talkin to a couple other people... anyone who says Janes and
RHCP does nothing for them need not involve themselves in further
humiliation by checking out the solo stuff...

"Neil" <IOUIU@OIU.com> wrote in message news:42fa9337$1@linux...
>
> "justcron" <justcron@hydrorecords.compound> wrote:
>>uhh... guys... if you consider yourself some type of high falootin musical
>
>>guitar critic... dont bother checking out the solo material either...
>
> "Guys"? Didn't I just get done saying I thoguht he was pretty
> solid player?
>
> NeilYip, saw em live..I was an early supporter of this band, spread the word
to many pals.
Just opinions man

"justcron" <justcron@hydrorecords.compound> wrote:
>
>"Cujo" <chris@nospamapplemanstudio.com> wrote in message
>news:42fa8fbf$1@linux...
>
>> P.S. I also really think that in todays world with out 35 years of myth

>> building
>> many people who walked in on Hendrix perfoming at a tuesday night open
mic
>> would turn around and walk out.
>
>who knows man...
>
>debating musical taste is as futile as debating politics, but you must be

>some type of elite player to sit in judgement of any of the great guitar

>players.
>
>Have you even seen dude live? One of his gifts is to play the riffs with

>such life. What sounds standard on the album takes on some serious depth

>when you hear it life...
>
>just my 2 cents... theres no way you can hammer into someones head that
a
>certain artist is good.
>
>I am curious though how this would be humilation.
If I like somehting I like it if I don't oh well.
I don;t ever feel humiliated either way. I like the craftmaship of 70's AOR
like Leo Sayer or The BeeGees (sp?) I also really like Public Image LTD and
Nick Cave and The Bad Seeds. I cerainly do not worry about what other people
think of my tastes. I don't look fopr justifcation

And lets get this right, I never said he sucks, I just think he is OK, just
not ground breaking or sublime. Prince's solo on the end of Let's Go Crazy
blows anyting I have ever heard by him away..and he can dance.

Ever hear Billy Zoom?

I know you are from Boston, ever heard of a band called The Turbines? that
was some fun guitar playing.

"justcron" <justcron@hydrorecords.compound> wrote:
>naw man I was talkin to a couple other people... anyone who says Janes
and
>RHCP does nothing for them need not involve themselves in further
>humiliation by checking out the solo stuff...
>
>"Neil" <IOUIU@OIU.com> wrote in message news:42fa9337$1@linux...
>>
>> "justcron" <justcron@hydrorecords.compound> wrote:
>>>uhh... guys... if you consider yourself some type of high falootin musical
>>
>>>guitar critic... dont bother checking out the solo material either...
>>
>> "Guys"? Didn't I just get done saying I thoguht he was pretty
>> solid player?
>>
>> Neil
>
>Also one of the all time great oston area guys was Rich Gilbert who is also
a bub of mine..Makes Navarro look silly on a technical level, but that is
not my thing

"Cujo" <chris@applemanstudio.com> wrote:
>
>Wow I never thought he was above adequate, Jane's was more about stylism
than
>anything. And he wasn't that good at all with the Chilli's I have not heard
>the solos stuff though
>
>
>"justcron" <justcron@hydrorecords.compound> wrote:
>>
>>"Paul Braun" <cygnus_nospam@ctgonline.org> wrote in message
>>news:1auif11fkr6dv4od0ijuvgetrnvlt83ib5@4ax.com...
>>
>>> I've completely changed my opinion of Dave Navarro as a person. As a
>>> musician, I'm still not into his work.
>>
>>dudes a frikkin genius guitar player
>>
>>I doubt I'd be caught dead watchin that show.
>>
>>
>YESSS!!

"Cujo" <chris@nospamapplemanstudio.com> wrote in message
news:42fab14b$1@linux...
>
> I am curious though how this would be humilation.
> If I like somehting I like it if I don't oh well.
> I don;t ever feel humiliated either way. I like the craftmaship of 70's
> AOR
> like Leo Sayer or The BeeGees (sp?) I also really like Public Image LTD
> and
> Nick Cave and The Bad Seeds. I cerainly do not worry about what other
> people
> think of my tastes. I don't look fopr justifcation
>
> And lets get this right, I never said he sucks, I just think he is OK,
> just
> not ground breaking or sublime. Prince's solo on the end of Let's Go Crazy
> blows anyting I have ever heard by him away..and he can dance.
>
> Ever hear Billy Zoom?
>
> I know you are from Boston, ever heard of a band called The Turbines? that
> was some fun guitar playing.
>
> "justcron" <justcron@hydrorecords.compound> wrote:
>>naw man I was talkin to a couple other people... anyone who says Janes
> and
>>RHCP does nothing for them need not involve themselves in further
>>humiliation by checking out the solo stuff...
>>
>>"Neil" <IOUIU@OIU.com> wrote in message news:42fa9337$1@linux...
>>>
>>> "justcron" <justcron@hydrorecords.compound> wrote:
>>>>uhh... guys... if you consider yourself some type of high falootin
>>>>musical
>>>
>>>>guitar critic... dont bother checking out the solo material either...
>>>
>>> "Guys"? Didn't I just get done saying I thoguht he was pretty
>>> solid player?
>>>
>>> Neil
>>
>>Yeah, Tom, its a gripe session to do Canare Quad without dental/surgical
tools (a real time saver with any braided stuff) but that braid is the
ticket for shielding. I did a small install a year ago with high end foil
hookup wire. Got the job closed and then had to come back because a local
AM station was gettin in the system at certain times of day/night with cloud
cover a variable factor. My job followed a complete remodel complete with
new electrical throughout.

After clearing the electrical for odds, I narrowed the problem to my
install; namely, cable and/or floor box shielding/grounding/looping. The
last thing I wanted to believe was that the foil cable just couldn't keep
mid-powered local RF out. I brought in some other brands of foil hook-up
wire and some good ol' braided mic cables and sub'd out a few under-floor
lines - no diff - at all. I ruled out every possible leak and still had the
problem.

After scratching a deep notch in my head trying to sus it, I decided to
ditch all assumtions re cable subs; I brought in some Canare Quad and boom,
problem gone - totally. Not wanting to jump in with both feet on the "aha"
I subbed every leaky RF line with Canare Quad and the sytem went dead
silent.

Dubyaok... so.. I am setting up a cheapo drum pad/ trigger set...

I have obtained a few nice rubber yamaha pads REALLY cheap...

now... for the rack/stand to put them on...


anybody know of good plans/instructions for building a nice homeade beast?
I am planning on looking at some designs.. and then tweeking them a bit...
streamline with a small footprint sort of thing...


suggestions?"scott h" <fresnelmusic@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>ok... so.. I am setting up a cheapo drum pad/ trigger set...
>
>I have obtained a few nice rubber yamaha pads REALLY cheap...
>
>now... for the rack/stand to put them on...
>
>
>anybody know of good plans/instructions for building a nice homeade beast?
>I am planning on looking at some designs.. and then tweeking them a bit...
>streamline with a small footprint sort of thing...
>
>
>suggestions?

Just get some appropriately-sized PVC tubes, elbows, and tees;
some barrel clamps for the pad fittings (if they didn't come
with them; and those banded hose clamps with rubber colars will
do in a pinch) & spray- paint the whole thing with primer, then
flat black... voila'! Instant e-drums.

Neil"justcron" <justcron@hydrorecords.compound> wrote:
>naw man I was talkin to a couple other people... anyone who says Janes
and
>RHCP does nothing for them need not involve themselves in further
>humiliation by checking out the solo stuff...

ah, ok... well, like I said, I think he's a really good player &
takes his shit seriously as a musician. In the rock world, I
can certainly appreciate someone like that.

NeilEK Sound <spamnot.info@eksoundNO.com> wrote:
>That's a good thing though... it'll smooth out them screeeechy fiddles
>you record! ;-)

DOH!!! Are you slamming Don's fiddle-recording mojo?

NeilThanks
Dimitrios

DC wrote:
> Used one for years. Sounds nice and the softlimit works very well.
>
> Never A-B'd with the Paris convertors, but I am pretty sure the
> AD500's are better.
>
> BTW, Apogee is NOT supporting these in any way. No parts,
> no service. I called and asked when mine broke.
>
> DC
>
>
> DImitrios <musurgio@otenet.gr> wrote:
>
>>I wonder if you ever tried a AD500 Apogee (not the AD1000) with
>>softlimit , with Paris , would that be -TODAY- an upgrade over the stock
>
>
>>Paris converters ?
>>I still only record at 16 bits...
>>Regards,
>>Dimitrios
>
>Hi,
Whats the quad stand for in cables ?
Regards,
Dimitrios

W. Mark Wilson wrote:

> Yeah, Tom, its a gripe session to do Canare Quad without dental/surgical
> tools (a real time saver with any braided stuff) but that braid is the
> ticket for shielding. I did a small install a year ago with high end foil
> hookup wire. Got the job closed and then had to come back because a local
> AM station was gettin in the system at certain times of day/night with cloud
> cover a variable factor. My job followed a complete remodel complete with
> new electrical throughout.
>
> After clearing the electrical for odds, I narrowed the problem to my
> install; namely, cable and/or floor box shielding/grounding/looping. The
> last thing I wanted to believe was that the foil cable just couldn't keep
> mid-powered local RF out. I brought in some other brands of foil hook-up
> wire and some good ol' braided mic cables and sub'd out a few under-floor
> lines - no diff - at all. I ruled out every possible leak and still had the
> problem.
>
> After scratching a deep notch in my head trying to sus it, I decided to
> ditch all assumtions re cable subs; I brought in some Canare Quad and boom,
> problem gone - totally. Not wanting to jump in with both feet on the "aha"
> I subbed every leaky RF line with Canare Quad and the sytem went dead
> silent.
>
> Dubya
>
>it's got 4 wires in it plus the shield
DImitrios <musurgio@otenet.gr> wrote:
>Hi,
>Whats the quad stand for in cables ?
>Regards,
>Dimitrios
>
>W. Mark Wilson wrote:
>
>> Yeah, Tom, its a gripe session to do Canare Quad without dental/surgical

>> tools (a real time saver with any braided stuff) but that braid is the

>> ticket for shielding. I did a small install a year ago with high end
foil
>> hookup wire. Got the job closed and then had to come back because a local

>> AM station was gettin in the system at certain times of day/night with
cloud
>> cover a variable factor. My job followed a complete remodel complete
with
>> new electrical throughout.
>>
>> After clearing the electrical for odds, I narrowed the problem to my
>> install; namely, cable and/or floor box shielding/grounding/looping.
The
>> last thing I wanted to believe was that the foil cable just couldn't keep

>> mid-powered local RF out. I brought in some other brands of foil hook-up

>> wire and some good ol' braided mic cables and sub'd out a few under-floor

>> lines - no diff - at all. I ruled out every possible leak and still had
the
>> problem.
>>
>> After scratching a deep notch in my head trying to sus it, I decided to

>> ditch all assumtions re cable subs; I brought in some Canare Quad and
boom,
>> problem gone - totally. Not wanting to jump in with both feet on the
"aha"
>> I subbed every leaky RF line with Canare Quad and the sytem went dead

>> silent.
>>
>> Dubya
>>
>>Hi, Deej.
My thoughts are with you and Amy.
Dunno what's going on, but I know what it's like when family
gets sick.
Soldier on, m'man.
Kim


"DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote:
>We're off to the Mayo Clinic in Scottsdale Arizona tomorrow. Amy's having
>some big problems. I'm praying in a pretty serious way right about now.
I
>need some rest to I'm posting this up and then I'm hitting the rack. It's
>been a bad couple of days here. I hope I have some good news to report in
a
>few days. I'll likely be offline until the weekend.
>
>Deej
>
>Thanks,
And why four is needed ?
As a two channel multi-pair ?

Dimitrios

Rod Lincoln wrote:
> it's got 4 wires in it plus the shield
> DImitrios <musurgio@otenet.gr> wrote:
>
>>Hi,
>>Whats the quad stand for in cables ?
>>Regards,
>>Dimitrios
>>
>>W. Mark Wilson wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Yeah, Tom, its a gripe session to do Canare Quad without dental/surgical
>
>
>>>tools (a real time saver with any braided stuff) but that braid is the
>
>
>>>ticket for shielding. I did a small install a year ago with high end
>
> foil
>
>>>hookup wire. Got the job closed and then had to come back because a local
>
>
>>>AM station was gettin in the system at certain times of day/night with
>
> cloud
>
>>>cover a variable factor. My job followed a complete remodel complete
>
> with
>
>>>new electrical throughout.
>>>
>>>After clearing the electrical for odds, I narrowed the problem to my
>>>install; namely, cable and/or floor box shielding/grounding/looping.
>
> The
>
>>>last thing I wanted to believe was that the foil cable just couldn't keep
>
>
>>>mid-powered local RF out. I brought in some other brands of foil hook-up
>
>
>>>wire and some good ol' braided mic cables and sub'd out a few under-floor
>
>
>>>lines - no diff - at all. I ruled out every possible leak and still had
>
> the
>
>>>problem.
>>>
>>>After scratching a deep notch in my head trying to sus it, I decided to
>
>
>>>ditch all assumtions re cable subs; I brought in some Canare Quad and
>
> boom,
>
>>>problem gone - totally. Not wanting to jump in with both feet on the
>
> "aha"
>
>>>I subbed every leaky RF line with Canare Quad and the sytem went dead
>
>
>>>silent.
>>>
>>>Dubya
>>>
>>>
>
>DJ,
You have my thoughts and prayers.
Get well Amy.

respect
Nappy

>"DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote:
>>We're off to the Mayo Clinic in Scottsdale Arizona tomorrow. Amy's having
>>some big problems. I'm praying in a pretty serious way right about now.
>I
>>need some rest to I'm posting this up and then I'm hitting the rack. It's
>>been a bad couple of days here. I hope I have some good news to report
in
>a
>>few days. I'll likely be offline until the weekend.
>>
>>Deej
>>
>>
>The theory goes that you can get the hot and colds effectively wound tighter
with the quad cable which helps ensure that noise induced on the cable is
common mode, and cancelled out by the preamps input circuitry (or transformer).

BUT...doubling the connectors adds capacitance to the cable, which can be
a factor for longer runs. Basically, I wouldn't run quad cable except if
RF interference was a problem. It's generally not worth the added hassle/expense.

Actually, boutique mic cables are not worth it either....we're talking about
a 150-200 ohm impedance at most mics outputs. Cable effects are going to
be minimal here....not like guitars where you're dealing with 100kohm impedances
and every foot makes a difference (in both resitance and capacitance).

Buy a cable that does what you need it to do....get a quad if there's RF,
get one designed for high flexibility and low handling noise for live use,
get one that has a good shield and is easy to work with for permanent non-flexed
installs. In most cases, how well the cable was soldered, and the connector
quality is going to make the big difference. There's only a few companies
in the world that actually manufacture cable....

Cheers,

Kris




DImitrios <musurgio@otenet.gr> wrote:
>Thanks,
>And why four is needed ?
>As a two channel multi-pair ?
>
>Dimitrios
>
>Rod Lincoln wrote:
>> it's got 4 wires in it plus the shield
>> DImitrios <musurgio@otenet.gr> wrote:
>>
>>>Hi,
>>>Whats the quad stand for in cables ?
>>>Regards,
>>>Dimitrios
>>>
>>>W. Mark Wilson wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>Yeah, Tom, its a gripe session to do Canare Quad without dental/surgical
>>
>>
>>>>tools (a real time saver with any braided stuff) but that braid is the
>>
>>
>>>>ticket for shielding. I did a small install a year ago with high end
>>
>> foil
>>
>>>>hookup wire. Got the job closed and then had to come back because a
local
>>
>>
>>>>AM station was gettin in the system at certain times of day/night with
>>
>> cloud
>>
>>>>cover a variable factor. My job followed a complete remodel complete
>>
>> with
>>
>>>>new electrical throughout.
>>>>
>>>>After clearing the electrical for odds, I narrowed the problem to my

>>>>install; namely, cable and/or floor box shielding/grounding/looping.

>>
>> The
>>
>>>>last thing I wanted to believe was that the foil cable just couldn't
keep
>>
>>
>>>>mid-powered local RF out. I brought in some other brands of foil hook-up
>>
>>
>>>>wire and some good ol' braided mic cables and sub'd out a few under-floor
>>
>>
>>>>lines - no diff - at all. I ruled out every possible leak and still
had
>>
>> the
>>
>>>>problem.
>>>>
>>>>After scratching a deep notch in my head trying to sus it, I decided
to
>>
>>
>>>>ditch all assumtions re cable subs; I brought in some Canare Quad and
>>
>> boom,
>>
>>>>problem gone - totally. Not wanting to jump in with both feet on the
>>
>> "aha"
>>
>>>>I subbed every leaky RF line with Canare Quad and the sytem went dead
>>
>>
>>>>silent.
>>>>
>>>>Dubya
>>>>
>>>>
>>
>>"Dominic" <BERTSTUDIO@aol.com> wrote in news:42f9124f$1@linux:

>
> Hello fellow Parisites.........
> I just completed restoring an Ampex MM1200, now what to do?
> Iam running PARIS with two EDS cards Iam going to sync them
> has anyone had any experience with this type of set up and what
> are you doing? Rerecording your anolog tracks in Paris? or
> syncing them and playing back all together. By the way Ive been
> recording on PARIS for over 5yrs with good results but hearing
> wide band analog tracks reminds me of what music was when I was
> growing up. It's a shame whats happened to our industry... oh
> well thats another story.
> Thanx again
> Dominic
> Sanctuary Studios

I guess it just depends on what you want as the final product. If you just
want the tape sound, and don't care about actually mixing off of tape, then
just fly the 2" tracks in to Paris and enjoy being able to edit/manipulate
to your hearts content.

An easier method (if live tracking a band or whatever) would be to just
take the monitor from the repro head into Paris while tracking. Sound goes
to tape, then off the repro into Paris. Boom. Analog-ish sound.

Enjoy!

-volthause"John Macy" <spamlessjohn@johnmacy.com> wrote in news:42f98975$1@linux:

>
> DJ had posted earlier about using the Nady Ribbon mic
> and really liking it. I ended up buying some of the
> (basically) same mics badged by Shiny Box, and am also
> liking them a lot. I have some Royers, and they are
> different mics than the SB. Jon, the owner (and by the way,
> a great guy to work with) says they are a lot more like
> a RCA 44, and I would agree with that. I cut some great
> sounding acoustic guitars with them recently, and am very
> happy, especially with the price (165$ for the mic, and he
> just came out with a new smaller body for 150$), and they come
> with a nice bag and case, too...
>
> Check it out: www.shinybox.com

Nice.

I'd be intersted to know how they sound on other sources as well when you
get to trying it out more.

I've been wanting to add a ribbon to my kit for a while, but just haven't
had the money to do so.

Thanks

-volthauseI tracked some drum overheads with them yesterday,
sort of a jazz thing, and they were pretty nice--
real smoooth on the top.

I also did some EG overdubs, and easily liked them
as much as my Royer 121's...

These were the 23 stock models--I should have a pair
of the 46's Friday or Monday and will post about
them later...

I think they are a good investment.


volthause <volthause-nospam-@soldrocks-nospam-.com> wrote:
>"John Macy" <spamlessjohn@johnmacy.com> wrote in news:42f98975$1@linux:
>
>>
>> DJ had posted earlier about using the Nady Ribbon mic
>> and really liking it. I ended up buying some of the
>> (basically) same mics badged by Shiny Box, and am also
>> liking them a lot. I have some Royers, and they are
>> different mics than the SB. Jon, the owner (and by the way,
>> a great guy to work with) says they are a lot more like
>> a RCA 44, and I would agree with that. I cut some great
>> sounding acoustic guitars with them recently, and am very
>> happy, especially with the price (165$ for the mic, and he
>> just came out with a new smaller body for 150$), and they come
>> with a nice bag and case, too...
>>
>> Check it out: www.shinybox.com
>
>Nice.
>
>I'd be intersted to know how they sound on other sources as well when you

>get to trying it out more.
>
>I've been wanting to add a ribbon to my kit for a while, but just haven't

>had the money to do so.
>
>Thanks
>
>-volthausetest....Friggin faulty cable modem..... >:-(

EK Sound wrote:

> test....Grade = C-

"EK Sound" <spamnot.info@eksoundNO.com> wrote in message
news:42fbd494$1@linux...
> test...."David Leonard" <david@writeside.biz> wrote:
>I'm starting to look around for a couple of small diaphragm condensers.
I
>don't have a big budget for these at the moment - trying to keep it between
>$500 - $1000 for the pair.
>
>I thought about the Studio Projects C4, but haven't heard any feedback on
>them from someone who uses them in the real world. Then I saw a couple
of
>Peluso mics - CEM6 - that looked promising. I read on this NG that someone
>had bought some Peluso capsules, and I was curious as to how they are
>working for you..

I have one of their capsules, mounted in an m-147... HUGE
improvement. Others here have reported some consistency
problems with them.

NeilHey Neil,
Which capsule did you use in the M147 and did you do it
yourself?

What kind of improvement did you see?
Got an M147 waiting to be ripped apart:)

Thanks,
Pete

"Neil" <IUIU@OIU.com> wrote:
>
>"David Leonard" <david@writeside.biz> wrote:
>>I'm starting to look around for a couple of small diaphragm condensers.
> I
>>don't have a big budget for these at the moment - trying to keep it between
>>$500 - $1000 for the pair.
>>
>>I thought about the Studio Projects C4, but haven't heard any feedback
on
>>them from someone who uses them in the real world. Then I saw a couple
>of
>>Peluso mics - CEM6 - that looked promising. I read on this NG that someone
>>had bought some Peluso capsules, and I was curious as to how they are
>>working for you..
>
>I have one of their capsules, mounted in an m-147... HUGE
>improvement. Others here have reported some consistency
>problems with them.
>
>NeilHah!

Hey a client of ours actually specified a 300 foot run of Canare
Quad in front of the mic pres...

Think he's got anything at all over 10K? Think there's any
group delay?

arrgghhhh

But the client is always right, right?

DC


EK Sound <spamnot.info@eksoundNO.com> wrote:
>That's a good thing though... it'll smooth out them screeeechy fiddles
>you record! ;-)
>
>David.
>
>DC wrote:
>> We are moving away from Canare because of the high capacitance.
>> At long runs, it rolls off the extreme highs.
>>
>> For 25' mic cords it shouldn't be an issue.
>>
>> DC
>>
>>
>> "W. Mark Wilson" <wmarkwilson@verizon.net> wrote:
>>
>>>Markertek's got the L4E6S Canare Quad Star at almost half the price of
the
>>
>>
>>>W2549 Mogami; priced by the foot.
>>>
>>>Dubya
>>>
>>>"DC" <DC@steenkingbadgers.com> wrote in message news:42f86edd$1@linux...
>>>
>>>>The source, receiving unit, and input/output impedance are
>>>>much more important than the cable. With mics, with proper
>>>>termination, cables don't make as big a difference as with guitars.
>>>>
>>>>Having said that, recording orchestras will show you quickly that
>>>>even a little change can make a difference.
>>>>
>>>>I like Cardas, Zaolla, and Mogami mic cables, but I would look at the
>>>>whole signal chain before buying an expensive cable. (the Mogami
>>>>W2549 is not expensive and is very good, the others are good but
>>>>very expensive)
>>>>
>>>>Where can I find good Greek food in Los Angeles??
>>>>
>>>>:-]
>>>>
>>>>DC
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>DImitrios <musurgio@otenet.gr> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>I have used for the last 4 years Ramtech cable and I am striving to
get
>>>>
>>>>>that warm sound I used to get when I was using in my older studio Klotz
>>>>
>>>>>cable.
>>>>>I am definetely sure that the cabling is responsible for that.
>>>>>I get now this trebly zingy kind of sound when with Klotz I had a
>>>>>flatter warmer sound.
>>>>>Anyone sharing any thoughts tests on this matter ?
>>>>>Any suggestion as per cable brand ?
>>>>>Regards,
>>>>>Dimitrios
>>>>
>>>
>>"Pete Ruthenburg" <ruthenburg@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>
>Hey Neil,
> Which capsule did you use in the M147 and did you do it
>yourself?

It was his k-67-alike (I think his model # is ck-67), and yes,
i did it myself - it's easy as long as you're careful. You're
just using one side of the capsule is all, since the m-147 is a
cardioid-only, and the -67 is a dual-sided capsule.


> What kind of improvement did you see?
>Got an M147 waiting to be ripped apart:)

HUGE improvement... that mic was pretty dark & inarticulate
before, with this capsule it's like a whole 'nother mic
altogether. Just make sure you get the mounting pin/bracket
from Peluso, too - the screw holes in the one in the -147
don't line up right with the Peluso capsule.

NeilI know at least one of you has the facilites & capability to do
short-run CD's... here's what I'm looking for:

A gal I know has a voice studio where she gives vocal lessons -
she wants to have a CD containing various vocal exercises,
rather than burning one at a time containing different
exercises for her students at various intervals in their
progress (which is what she's doing now). Can I get some quotes
from any of you who can do this?

Let's say a quantity of 100, shrink-wrapped, with nice & clean,
professional-looking artwork (but nothing too outrageous in
terms of graphics) on the cover, printing on the cd (no
paper labels), no mastering would be needed for something like
this, so no need to include that in the pricing. This is for
regular audio CD's that can be played back on a standard CD
player , and please specify if it's duplicated or replicated in
your price quote. Give me an idea of variances between B&W &
4-color artwork if you can handle either or both.

We'd also need a UPC code since she may decide to make them
available for sale online at a later date, as well; so please
include that in your pricing.

Send your pricing to me at:

neil DOT henderson AT sbcglobal DOT net

Thanks!

NeilI got a bunch of Quad a while back from some some friends in the biz for a
great deal. I'd have to say it is kind of a pain to put cables together with
it. So I would have to agree that unless you have an RF problem you might
want to go with something else. Quality cable though.
rod
"Kris" . wrote:
>
>The theory goes that you can get the hot and colds effectively wound tighter
>with the quad cable which helps ensure that noise induced on the cable is
>common mode, and cancelled out by the preamps input circuitry (or transformer).
>
>BUT...doubling the connectors adds capacitance to the cable, which can be
>a factor for longer runs. Basically, I wouldn't run quad cable except if
>RF interference was a problem. It's generally not worth the added hassle/expense.
>
>Actually, boutique mic cables are not worth it either....we're talking about
>a 150-200 ohm impedance at most mics outputs. Cable effects are going to
>be minimal here....not like guitars where you're dealing with 100kohm impedances
>and every foot makes a difference (in both resitance and capacitance).
>
>Buy a cable that does what you need it to do....get a quad if there's RF,
>get one designed for high flexibility and low handling noise for live use,
>get one that has a good shield and is easy to work with for permanent non-flexed
>installs. In most cases, how well the cable was soldered, and the connector
>quality is going to make the big difference. There's only a few companies
>in the world that actually manufacture cable....
>
>Cheers,
>
>Kris
>
>
>
>
>DImitrios <musurgio@otenet.gr> wrote:
>>Thanks,
>>And why four is needed ?
>>As a two channel multi-pair ?
>>
>>Dimitrios
>>
>>Rod Lincoln wrote:
>>> it's got 4 wires in it plus the shield
>>> DImitrios <musurgio@otenet.gr> wrote:
>>>
>>>>Hi,
>>>>Whats the quad stand for in cables ?
>>>>Regards,
>>>>Dimitrios
>>>>
>>>>W. Mark Wilson wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>Yeah, Tom, its a gripe session to do Canare Quad without dental/surgical
>>>
>>>
>>>>>tools (a real time saver with any braided stuff) but that braid is the
>>>
>>>
>>>>>ticket for shielding. I did a small install a year ago with high end
>>>
>>> foil
>>>
>>>>>hookup wire. Got the job closed and then had to come back because a
>local
>>>
>>>
>>>>>AM station was gettin in the system at certain times of day/night with
>>>
>>> cloud
>>>
>>>>>cover a variable factor. My job followed a complete remodel complete
>>>
>>> with
>>>
>>>>>new electrical throughout.
>>>>>
>>>>>After clearing the electrical for odds, I narrowed the problem to my
>
>>>>>install; namely, cable and/or floor box shielding/grounding/looping.
>
>>>
>>> The
>>>
>>>>>last thing I wanted to believe was that the foil cable just couldn't
>keep
>>>
>>>
>>>>>mid-powered local RF out. I brought in some other brands of foil hook-up
>>>
>>>
>>>>>wire and some good ol' braided mic cables and sub'd out a few under-floor
>>>
>>>
>>>>>lines - no diff - at all. I ruled out every possible leak and still
>had
>>>
>>> the
>>>
>>>>>problem.
>>>>>
>>>>>After scratching a deep notch in my head trying to sus it, I decided
>to
>>>
>>>
>>>>>ditch all assumtions re cable subs; I brought in some Canare Quad and
>>>
>>> boom,
>>>
>>>>>problem gone - totally. Not wanting to jump in with both feet on the
>>>
>>> "aha"
>>>
>>>>>I subbed every leaky RF line with Canare Quad and the sytem went dead
>>>
>>>
>>>>>silent.
>>>>>
>>>>>Dubya
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>
>>>
>I'd be very interested.

Thanks!

-ted

"db" <daniel_burneNOSPAM@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:42f734d7$1@linux...
>
> Spotted this
> ( http://news.parisnewsgroup.com/cgi-bin/dnewsweb?cmd=article& amp;group=IDEA.EMUEnsoniqPARIS&item=127221&utag=
> - about FX presets not saving when re-opening Paris on XP) on the Paris
> newsgroup
> from about 18 months ago. Now that I've migrated to XP I'm having the same
> problem, and was wondering if anyone (Manic?) found a way to solve it.
>
> Since I've now lost a bunch of my presets, I'm also keen to get hold of
> some
> new ones. It'd be great if you got any tasty ones to share - I know Mike
> Audet has set up a sharing resource for Paris presents, and could forward
> them on to him if you'd like. I've also collected the reverb presets from
> the group over the years and could post them as a ppj if anyone's
> interested.
>
>
> Many thanks in advance for any assistance.
>
> Best wishes,
>
> Danielwish i could remember what this was about...sigh...

On Thu, 11 Aug 2005 18:56:29 -0400, "justcron"
<justcron@hydrorecords.compound> wrote:

>Grade = C-
>
>"EK Sound" <spamnot.info@eksoundNO.com> wrote in message
>news:42fbd494$1@linux...
>> test....
>This show is a fucking Joke-dave Navarro said to one of the contestents-"i
want you to get More out of yourself" Give me a break
he's trying to get into some form of Tv so he hosts this show. Seeing the
guys in INXS sitting there acting like they are grooving with the contestents
while they sing is an utter embarassment
since I know about 5 singers who would blow anyone of these people so far
off the stage it's ridiculous, It shows you the lack of
great ideas out there.
dave Navarro scored when he got Carmen Elektra-he should be happy
he got one thing right
JMThanks, Neil. I read somewhere that the small diaphragms are modeled after
DPAs. I understand that he's working on fixing some problems that occur
with internal connections during shipping. They look like a great value.

David L

On 11-Aug-2005, "Neil" <IUIU@OIU.com> wrote:

> I have one of their capsules, mounted in an m-147... HUGE
> improvement. Others here have reported some consistency
> problems with them.Man, you're tough to please... ;-)

David.

justcron wrote:

> Grade = C-
>
> "EK Sound" <spamnot.info@eksoundNO.com> wrote in message
> news:42fbd494$1@linux...
>
>>test....
>
>
>usually its a straight Grade = F though :)

"EK Sound" <spamnot.info@eksoundNO.com> wrote in message
news:42fcb7c2$1@linux...
> Man, you're tough to please... ;-)
>
> David.
>
> justcron wrote:
>
>> Grade = C-
>>
>> "EK Sound" <spamnot.info@eksoundNO.com> wrote in message
>> news:42fbd494$1@linux...
>>
>>>test....
>>
>>I buy my cables from Markertek. They use Canare quad and Neutrik connectors.
They are well made and come in a variety of colors, which is quite handy.
I've been very pleased with their performance and durability.> I thought about the Studio Projects C4, but haven't heard any feedback on
> them from someone who uses them in the real world.


I have used a pair of these on a string trio - (quartet 2nd violin OD).
I felt they worked very well on a budget. This was a school project with
zero income but the young client was pleased with the results so far.

I ran them preamp through Mackie VLZpro via the insert out trick.
I would not be embarassed if the young students had been seasoned
pros and will upgrade the preamps and cableing before buying new SC mics.

As Don C. has recommended for strings and symphony, the newer
John Hardy 990 would be my choice.

I want to do the Peluso - Mojave tango with a few mics in the future,
but my plate is full and I can't afford to buy kits and leave them sit.


Regards,

El Miguel





"David Leonard" <david@writeside.biz> wrote in message
news:42fa7810$1@linux...
> I'm starting to look around for a couple of small diaphragm condensers. I
> don't have a big budget for these at the moment - trying to keep it
between
> $500 - $1000 for the pair.
>
> I thought about the Studio Projects C4, but haven't heard any feedback on
> them from someone who uses them in the real world. Then I saw a couple of
> Peluso mics - CEM6 - that looked promising. I read on this NG that
someone
> had bought some Peluso capsules, and I was curious as to how they are
> working for you..
>
> David L> I was never an INXS fan.
>
> pab


I thought they were spot on from the get go.
It's sad Michael couldn't hang in there...


El Miguel (stick together or hang apart)





"Paul Braun" <cygnus_nospam@ctgonline.org> wrote in message
news:1auif11fkr6dv4od0ijuvgetrnvlt83ib5@4ax.com...
> Anyone watching this show?
>
> Couple of things -- if I see one more singer holding the mic "rap
> style" by cupping the ball, I'm gonna scream. These are all
> supposedly professional singers. They should know better.
>
> The house band rocks.
>
> I've completely changed my opinion of Dave Navarro as a person. As a
> musician, I'm still not into his work. But as a person, he's warm,
> genuine, and articulate -- far from the tattoo'd circus freak he
> appears to be.
>
> Also noticed tonight that they're using monitor wedges by SLS -- the
> same company that made my FOH boxen and wedges at the theatre.
> Horn-loaded ribbon HF drivers -- damn, those things are sweet..
> Everyone who's played there since I hung those has loved 'em.
>
> Just random thoughts.
>
> I only started watching because I had seen Ty Taylor in "We Will Rock
> You" in Vegas.
>
> I was never an INXS fan.
>
> pab> I've been looking at picking up one of the Myteks and then using a

Do not expect the stereo DAC to output WC, it does not.

Only the ADC or the dedicated WC unit have WC outputs.

If you plan to buy, the Stereo AD with WC out is a great option
if you go into a distro unit. A used Aardvark SyncDA is a good option
at a great price off ebay. In fact, the Aardsync WC unit is also a good
option and value if you need to save money and don't mind 44.1 - 48khz.

Regards,



El Miguel










"Jeff hoover" <jkhoover@excite.com> wrote in message news:42f91bae@linux...
> I've been looking at picking up one of the Myteks and then using a
> distribution amp. I know a couple of you are running this config.
> Question is, do you lose the Mytek's accuracy passing the clock through
> a less accurate distribution box like a lucid Genx? Are they simply
> repeating the signal without affecting it, and if so, how is that better
> than a properly terminated chain off the mytek out?
>
> JHWe got back late last night. Nonstop testing in Scottsdale for two days. Amy
is doing a little better and wanted to come home so they loaded us up with a
bunch of test kits that we can do here coordinating with her local doctor
starting Sunday and going for the next 6 days, then back to Scottsdale on
the 21st for analysis of these tests, results of the tests she took while we
were there and even more testing on the 22'nd and 24th. Life has become one
big test it seems. I must say that the Mayo Clinic is like nothing I've ever
seen in my entire life.

Now I'm off to start playing catchup. It's amazing how nuts things can get
when you're running your own business and you have to leave it, even for
just a couple of days.

Thanks again everyone for the prayers,

Deej



"Nappy" <mgrant01@san.rr.com> wrote in message news:42fb7340$1@linux...
>
> DJ,
> You have my thoughts and prayers.
> Get well Amy.
>
> respect
> Nappy
>
> >"DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote:
> >>We're off to the Mayo Clinic in Scottsdale Arizona tomorrow. Amy's
having
> >>some big problems. I'm praying in a pretty serious way right about now.
> >I
> >>need some rest to I'm posting this up and then I'm hitting the rack.
It's
> >>been a bad couple of days here. I hope I have some good news to report
> in
> >a
> >>few days. I'll likely be offline until the weekend.
> >>
> >>Deej
> >>
> >>
> >
>thanks for the update Deej... we're all pullin for you and Amy.As far as I can tell, the UAD-1 pci card is the Dongle.

El Miguel



"Brian Porick" <brianporick@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:42ea61b1@linux...
> I'm writing to ask a question for a co-worker considering the UAD Card.
> Since I know a lot of you use it regularly, I thought you might be able to
> help.
>
> Here's the scenario:
>
> My co-worker has PT LE/G5 at home, and we've got a PT HD3/G4 system here
at
> work. (Don't worry guys; I still proudly use PARIS in my personal
studio.)
> He really wants to be able work on some initial mixes at home and then
bring
> them into our work studio to do final tweaks. Of course, the big question
> is somehow getting an assortment of nice plug-ins that he can use both at
> home and at work without having to purchase them twice. So our newfangled
> idea is to have him get a UAD Card and then literally transport the PCI
card
> back and forth between work and home.
>
> Are any of you guys doing something like this, or have you tried something
> like this? How does that work as far as permissions go? Is the UAD its
own
> dongle, or is there some other authorization process that needs to occur
> every time one switches computers?
>
> Let me know your thoughts, and thanks in advance for any information/ideas
> you might have.
>
> Brian
>
>> Greek food in LA could be found in my uncle's house who lives in LA...
> But I guess after so many years and married to a Chinese probably he is
> eating hot dogs and cats...


Just too funny!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


:))

El Miguel





"DImitrios" <musurgio@otenet.gr> wrote in message news:42f87097$1@linux...
> Hehe,
> Thanks for recommendation...
> Greek food in LA could be found in my uncle's house who lives in LA...
> But I guess after so many years and married to a Chinese probably he is
> eating hot dogs and cats...
> I can also send some cooked ones from here.
> Cheers,
> Regards,
> Dimitrios
>
> DC wrote:
> > The source, receiving unit, and input/output impedance are
> > much more important than the cable. With mics, with proper
> > termination, cables don't make as big a difference as with guitars.
> >
> > Having said that, recording orchestras will show you quickly that
> > even a little change can make a difference.
> >
> > I like Cardas, Zaolla, and Mogami mic cables, but I would look at the
> > whole signal chain before buying an expensive cable. (the Mogami
> > W2549 is not expensive and is very good, the others are good but
> > very expensive)
> >
> > Where can I find good Greek food in Los Angeles??
> >
> > :-]
> >
> > DC
> >
> >
> > DImitrios <musurgio@otenet.gr> wrote:
> >
> >>I have used for the last 4 years Ramtech cable and I am striving to get
> >
> >
> >>that warm sound I used to get when I was using in my older studio Klotz
> >
> >
> >>cable.
> >>I am definetely sure that the cabling is responsible for that.
> >>I get now this trebly zingy kind of sound when with Klotz I had a
> >>flatter warmer sound.
> >>Anyone sharing any thoughts tests on this matter ?
> >>Any suggestion as per cable brand ?
> >>Regards,
> >>Dimitrios
> >
> >As for the EG, are we talking somewhat agressive/rock geetar, or jazzy
stuff?

Thanks for the update. I definitely need to check a pair of these out.

-volthause


"John Macy" <spamlessjohn@johnmacy.com> wrote in news:42fbbb3f$1@linux:

>
> I tracked some drum overheads with them yesterday,
> sort of a jazz thing, and they were pretty nice--
> real smoooth on the top.
>
> I also did some EG overdubs, and easily liked them
> as much as my Royer 121's...
>
> These were the 23 stock models--I should have a pair
> of the 46's Friday or Monday and will post about
> them later...
>
> I think they are a good investment.
>
>I used them on a sort of jazzy meets Bonnie Raitt
yesterday and sounded great... I have a great mic
trunk, and these will get used a lot...


volthause <volthause-nospam-@soldrocks-nospam-.com> wrote:
>As for the EG, are we talking somewhat agressive/rock geetar, or jazzy
>stuff?
>
>Thanks for the update. I definitely need to check a pair of these out.
>
>-volthause
>
>
>"John Macy" <spamlessjohn@johnmacy.com> wrote in news:42fbbb3f$1@linux:
>
>>
>> I tracked some drum overheads with them yesterday,
>> sort of a jazz thing, and they were pretty nice--
>> real smoooth on the top.
>>
>> I also did some EG overdubs, and easily liked them
>> as much as my Royer 121's...
>>
>> These were the 23 stock models--I should have a pair
>> of the 46's Friday or Monday and will post about
>> them later...
>>
>> I think they are a good investment.
>>
>>Hey, Deej...

You got it. In my prayers.

Gantt

DJ wrote:

> We're off to the Mayo Clinic in Scottsdale Arizona tomorrow. Amy's having
> some big problems. I'm praying in a pretty serious way right about now. I
> need some rest to I'm posting this up and then I'm hitting the rack. It's
> been a bad couple of days here. I hope I have some good news to report in a
> few days. I'll likely be offline until the weekend.
>
> DeejAll the best Deej...hang in there!

TyroneYou are very welcome. Best wishes to Amy.

DC


"DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote:
>We got back late last night. Nonstop testing in Scottsdale for two days.
Amy
>is doing a little better and wanted to come home so they loaded us up with
a
>bunch of test kits that we can do here coordinating with her local doctor
>starting Sunday and going for the next 6 days, then back to Scottsdale on
>the 21st for analysis of these tests, results of the tests she took while
we
>were there and even more testing on the 22'nd and 24th. Life has become
one
>big test it seems. I must say that the Mayo Clinic is like nothing I've
ever
>seen in my entire life.
>
>Now I'm off to start playing catchup. It's amazing how nuts things can get
>when you're running your own business and you have to leave it, even for
>just a couple of days.
>
>Thanks again everyone for the prayers,
>
>Deej
>
>
>
>"Nappy" <mgrant01@san.rr.com> wrote in message news:42fb7340$1@linux...
>>
>> DJ,
>> You have my thoughts and prayers.
>> Get well Amy.
>>
>> respect
>> Nappy
>>
>> >"DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote:
>> >>We're off to the Mayo Clinic in Scottsdale Arizona tomorrow. Amy's
>having
>> >>some big problems. I'm praying in a pretty serious way right about now.
>> >I
>> >>need some rest to I'm posting this up and then I'm hitting the rack.
>It's
>> >>been a bad couple of days here. I hope I have some good news to report
>> in
>> >a
>> >>few days. I'll likely be offline until the weekend.
>> >>
>> >>Deej
>> >>
>> >>
>> >
>>
>
>FWIW - I've had the Peluso 22 47 for a bit over a year now. I'm very happy
with it.

Craig




in article 42fa7810$1@linux, David Leonard at david@writeside.biz wrote on
8/10/05 5:55 PM:

> I'm starting to look around for a couple of small diaphragm condensers. I
> don't have a big budget for these at the moment - trying to keep it between
> $500 - $1000 for the pair.
>
> I thought about the Studio Projects C4, but haven't heard any feedback on
> them from someone who uses them in the real world. Then I saw a couple of
> Peluso mics - CEM6 - that looked promising. I read on this NG that someone
> had bought some Peluso capsules, and I was curious as to how they are
> working for you..
>
> David LWe're praying for good news here--please
keep us posted.

What a great group this is :)


"DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote:
>We got back late last night. Nonstop testing in Scottsdale for two days.
Amy
>is doing a little better and wanted to come home so they loaded us up with
a
>bunch of test kits that we can do here coordinating with her local doctor
>starting Sunday and going for the next 6 days, then back to Scottsdale on
>the 21st for analysis of these tests, results of the tests she took while
we
>were there and even more testing on the 22'nd and 24th. Life has become
one
>big test it seems. I must say that the Mayo Clinic is like nothing I've
ever
>seen in my entire life.
>
>Now I'm off to start playing catchup. It's amazing how nuts things can get
>when you're running your own business and you have to leave it, even for
>just a couple of days.
>
>Thanks again everyone for the prayers,
>
>Deej
>
>
>
>"Nappy" <mgrant01@san.rr.com> wrote in message news:42fb7340$1@linux...
>>
>> DJ,
>> You have my thoughts and prayers.
>> Get well Amy.
>>
>> respect
>> Nappy
>>
>> >"DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote:
>> >>We're off to the Mayo Clinic in Scottsdale Arizona tomorrow. Amy's
>having
>> >>some big problems. I'm praying in a pretty serious way right about now.
>> >I
>> >>need some rest to I'm posting this up and then I'm hitting the rack.
>It's
>> >>been a bad couple of days here. I hope I have some good news to report
>> in
>> >a
>> >>few days. I'll likely be offline until the weekend.
>> >>
>> >>Deej
>> >>
>> >>
>> >
>>
>
>I have talked to John Peluso about these mics. He mentioned that the design
was based on a Shoeps circuit (CMC 5 amp IIRC). He said that they are
getting a lot of use on film sets where the Shoeps mics have been a staple
item for years.

Deej

"David Leonard" <david@writeside.biz> wrote in message
news:42fa7810$1@linux...
> I'm starting to look around for a couple of small diaphragm condensers. I
> don't have a big budget for these at the moment - trying to keep it
between
> $500 - $1000 for the pair.
>
> I thought about the Studio Projects C4, but haven't heard any feedback on
> them from someone who uses them in the real world. Then I saw a couple of
> Peluso mics - CEM6 - that looked promising. I read on this NG that
someone
> had bought some Peluso capsules, and I was curious as to how they are
> working for you..
>
> David LOn Fri, 12 Aug 2005 11:19:54 -0600, "DJ"
<animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote:

>We got back late last night. Nonstop testing in Scottsdale for two days. Amy
>is doing a little better and wanted to come home so they loaded us up with a
>bunch of test kits that we can do here coordinating with her local doctor
>starting Sunday and going for the next 6 days, then back to Scottsdale on
>the 21st for analysis of these tests, results of the tests she took while we
>were there and even more testing on the 22'nd and 24th. Life has become one
>big test it seems. I must say that the Mayo Clinic is like nothing I've ever
>seen in my entire life.
>
>Now I'm off to start playing catchup. It's amazing how nuts things can get
>when you're running your own business and you have to leave it, even for
>just a couple of days.
>
>Thanks again everyone for the prayers,
>

Anytime. We're still praying... you guys have been through enough
already.

pabhope the results and their news are all good.

"It's amazing how nuts things can get when you're running your own
business and you have to leave it, even for just a couple of days."
got that right.



On Fri, 12 Aug 2005 11:19:54 -0600, "DJ"
<animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote:

>We got back late last night. Nonstop testing in Scottsdale for two days. Amy
>is doing a little better and wanted to come home so they loaded us up with a
>bunch of test kits that we can do here coordinating with her local doctor
>starting Sunday and going for the next 6 days, then back to Scottsdale on
>the 21st for analysis of these tests, results of the tests she took while we
>were there and even more testing on the 22'nd and 24th. Life has become one
>big test it seems. I must say that the Mayo Clinic is like nothing I've ever
>seen in my entire life.
>
>Now I'm off to start playing catchup. It's amazing how nuts things can get
>when you're running your own business and you have to leave it, even for
>just a couple of days.
>
>Thanks again everyone for the prayers,
>
>Deej
>
>
>
>"Nappy" <mgrant01@san.rr.com> wrote in message news:42fb7340$1@linux...
>>
>> DJ,
>> You have my thoughts and prayers.
>> Get well Amy.
>>
>> respect
>> Nappy
>>
>> >"DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote:
>> >>We're off to the Mayo Clinic in Scottsdale Arizona tomorrow. Amy's
>having
>> >>some big problems. I'm praying in a pretty serious way right about now.
>> >I
>> >>need some rest to I'm posting this up and then I'm hitting the rack.
>It's
>> >>been a bad couple of days here. I hope I have some good news to report
>> in
>> >a
>> >>few days. I'll likely be offline until the weekend.
>> >>
>> >>Deej
>> >>
>> >>
>> >
>>
>DJ,

Just saw this, my prayers go out for both of you.

Craig

>
> On Fri, 12 Aug 2005 11:19:54 -0600, "DJ"
> <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote:
>
>> We got back late last night. Nonstop testing in Scottsdale for two days. Amy
>> is doing a little better and wanted to come home so they loaded us up with a
>> bunch of test kits that we can do here coordinating with her local doctor
>> starting Sunday and going for the next 6 days, then back to Scottsdale on
>> the 21st for analysis of these tests, results of the tests she took while we
>> were there and even more testing on the 22'nd and 24th. Life has become one
>> big test it seems. I must say that the Mayo Clinic is like nothing I've ever
>> seen in my entire life.
>>
>> Now I'm off to start playing catchup. It's amazing how nuts things can get
>> when you're running your own business and you have to leave it, even for
>> just a couple of days.
>>
>> Thanks again everyone for the prayers,
>>
>> Deej
>>
>>
>>
>> "Nappy" <mgrant01@san.rr.com> wrote in message news:42fb7340$1@linux...
>>>
>>> DJ,
>>> You have my thoughts and prayers.
>>> Get well Amy.
>>>
>>> respect
>>> Nappy
>>>
>>>> "DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote:
>>>>> We're off to the Mayo Clinic in Scottsdale Arizona tomorrow. Amy's
>> having
>>>>> some big problems. I'm praying in a pretty serious way right about now.
>>>> I
>>>>> need some rest to I'm posting this up and then I'm hitting the rack.
>> It's
>>>>> been a bad couple of days here. I hope I have some good news to report
>>> in
>>>> a
>>>>> few days. I'll likely be offline until the weekend.
>>>>>
>>>>> Deej
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>>Seeing the
guys in INXS sitting there acting like they are grooving with the
contestents
while they sing is an utter embarassment<

........gives me a feeling sort of like picking up an unfamiliar microbe
while travelling and needing to get up and make a dash for the thundermug.

"jason Miles" <JMiles45@aol.com> wrote in message news:42fcb3b4$1@linux...
>
> This show is a fucking Joke-dave Navarro said to one of the contestents-"i
> want you to get More out of yourself" Give me a break
> he's trying to get into some form of Tv so he hosts this show. Seeing the
> guys in INXS sitting there acting like they are grooving with the
contestents
> while they sing is an utter embarassment
> since I know about 5 singers who would blow anyone of these people so far
> off the stage it's ridiculous, It shows you the lack of
> great ideas out there.
> dave Navarro scored when he got Carmen Elektra-he should be happy
> he got one thing right
> JMI put in my Maria Mena CD... still kicks ass to me.

Whens the next CD due out?Anyone tried Violet's line of mics? The maker claims to be the original Blue
mic designer - apparently a falling out, and they seem to be at war now.

I checked out the site and now get newsletter emails from them. Here's an
excerpt:

"Indeed, yesterday we set up a 10-day eBay auction for Violet Design
Flamingo Junior. Starting bid was $0.01 We got over 30 bids on this item and
had many, many watchers!

Today this eBay item was removed because blue decided that they can use eBay
VeRO program to remove anyone who tries to be competition to their "new
great sounding Chinese" knock-offs. Sorry guys, but we do not compete with
Chinese manufactures. A Rolls-Royce is a Rolls and a Hyundai is just that.
Please, do not devaluate JZ's designs with 10-dollar Chinese capsules.

And by the way, the Flamingo Junior was released early in 2005; quite a
while after JZ's factory stopped sales to the Blue. Now, it seems that blue
and Martins Saulspurens is trying to claim rights to anything their
ex-employer Juris Zarins has designed or will ever design to be blue
property. Could anyone imagine something more absurd, completely inhuman,
immoral and utterly wrong?"

Any truth to this (in that it only implies either great mics, or illegal
copies on one side or the other)? Either way I'm more interested in quality
mics than turf wars. I've always liked Blue mics, but only recently heard
of Violet.

Regards,
DedricDedric..........here's the complete skinny on this whole Blue vs Violet
thing from Blue's perspective. Sounds pretty legit to me.

http://www.audio-forum.net/pro/BLUE_mic_vs_Violet_the_offici al_response_1033
051.html


"DTerry" <dterry@no_spamkeyofd.net> wrote in message
news:BF23700A.3A49%dterry@no_spamkeyofd.net...
> Anyone tried Violet's line of mics? The maker claims to be the original
Blue
> mic designer - apparently a falling out, and they seem to be at war now.
>
> I checked out the site and now get newsletter emails from them. Here's an
> excerpt:
>
> "Indeed, yesterday we set up a 10-day eBay auction for Violet Design
> Flamingo Junior. Starting bid was $0.01 We got over 30 bids on this item
and
> had many, many watchers!
>
> Today this eBay item was removed because blue decided that they can use
eBay
> VeRO program to remove anyone who tries to be competition to their "new
> great sounding Chinese" knock-offs. Sorry guys, but we do not compete with
> Chinese manufactures. A Rolls-Royce is a Rolls and a Hyundai is just that.
> Please, do not devaluate JZ's designs with 10-dollar Chinese capsules.
>
> And by the way, the Flamingo Junior was released early in 2005; quite a
> while after JZ's factory stopped sales to the Blue. Now, it seems that
blue
> and Martins Saulspurens is trying to claim rights to anything their
> ex-employer Juris Zarins has designed or will ever design to be blue
> property. Could anyone imagine something more absurd, completely inhuman,
> immoral and utterly wrong?"
>
> Any truth to this (in that it only implies either great mics, or illegal
> copies on one side or the other)? Either way I'm more interested in
quality
> mics than turf wars. I've always liked Blue mics, but only recently heard
> of Violet.
>
> Regards,
> Dedric
>My good friend, Jack Rice. www.giveitaspin.com

W. Mark Wilson

"Neil"
> I know at least one of you has the facilites & capability to do
> short-run CD's... here's what I'm looking for:
>
> A gal I know has a voice studio where she gives vocal lessons -
> she wants to have a CD containing various vocal exercises,
> rather than burning one at a time containing different
> exercises for her students at various intervals in their
> progress (which is what she's doing now). Can I get some quotes
> from any of you who can do this?
>
> Let's say a quantity of 100, shrink-wrapped, with nice & clean,
> professional-looking artwork (but nothing too outrageous in
> terms of graphics) on the cover, printing on the cd (no
> paper labels), no mastering would be needed for something like
> this, so no need to include that in the pricing. This is for
> regular audio CD's that can be played back on a standard CD
> player , and please specify if it's duplicated or replicated in
> your price quote. Give me an idea of variances between B&W &
> 4-color artwork if you can handle either or both.
>
> We'd also need a UPC code since she may decide to make them
> available for sale online at a later date, as well; so please
> include that in your pricing.
>
> Send your pricing to me at:
>
> neil DOT henderson AT sbcglobal DOT net
>
> Thanks!
>
> Neilhmmmm.......link wasn't too friendly was it?

Here's the cut 'n paste:

Subject: Blue Mic V. Violet - Official Response



We at Blue Microphones would like to make a statement regarding
the ongoing speculation over the original design of Blue?s product
line and Blue?s current business dealings. We have not
commented on these subjects until now simply because our
legal advisors have specifically recommended that we not
participate in the rumor mill. However, we now believe that the
amount of time and misguided speculation that has been
invested on these subjects by forum visitors requires a response.


This statement is intended to set the record straight and will be
the one and only comment offered by Blue Microphones.
Skipper Wise, Martins Saulespurens, and all of the dedicated
and hard-working people at Blue sincerely appreciate those who
have supported us throughout the years and those who will continue
to support Blue Microphones in the future.


First, the design issue:


At the onset of Blue?s incorporation, we hired a Latvian medical
manufacturer called Scruples to manufacture certain metals
parts and perform the final assembly of certain microphones.
Scruples, which is owned in part by Juris Zarins, signed a
non-compete agreement with Blue and used their
manufacturing expertise to construct our product.


As the Blue line caught on, our relationship with Mr. Zarins
became strained as he fought for a bigger piece of the pie.
Mr. Zarins began attempting to leverage our manufacturing
relationship with Scruples to assert claims to our products.
Mr. Zarins attempted to circumvent Blue by creating a company
called ParaBlue that would sell Blue products directly to customers.
In conjunction with these activities, Scruples became less and less
interested in cooperating with Blue?s efforts to manage production
flow and quality control. Since Scruples would not continue to meet
our needs, we found new manufacturers ? right here in America ? who
could.


After Blue terminated all business relations with Scruples in
October of 2004, Scruples violated our non-compete agreement
by supplying microphones to a new company of Mr. Zarins,? Violet
Designs, whose trademark infringes on Blue's trademark. Mr. Zarins
began creating unauthorized duplications of our products under the
name JZ Equipment, which was in clear violation of both our
intellectual property rights and the non-compete agreement.
Mr. Zarins has also made a deceptive attempt to register Blue?s
microphone designs with the European Union.


So, did Scruples make choices in what techniques and technologies
should be used to manufacture Blue?s products? Of course, that?s
what they were hired and paid to do. Did Scruples or Mr. Zarins
somehow establish a vision and actually design the Blue product line?
Absolutely not, which is why we?ve already begun legal action in the
European Union, Latvia, and soon in the U.S.


Some other matters of interest:


As stated above, Blue has moved the manufacturing operations for
most of its core product line to the United States ? specifically
Southern California, where we are headquartered ? and whatever is
not made here is made in Latvia. None of our microphones are made in
China. We do, however, source some of our non-critical parts, such as
shock-mounts and cables, from Chinese manufacturers. This enables us
to cost-effectively increase the value of our product line by
including free shock-mounts with each of our mics.


Make no mistake, it was a huge challenge to move manufacturing to
facilities that would allow us to maintain the same quality
craftsmanship recordists have come to expect from Blue over the last
decade. After an intense search and a couple false starts, we settled
on hiring a milling company from the U.S. military contracting world,
a finishing company from the aerospace industry, and an assembly house

skilled in hi-fidelity audio...all located close to home in
California, all highly capable of meeting our ultra-high standards.


Keep in mind that all our ball-shaped microphones are still made
in Latvia. Our circuit boards are also still made in Latvia. Our
capsule assembly and tuning is still done in Latvia, and our Bottle
mic is still made entirely in Latvia. All these aspects of Blue
production, as well as most of our research and development, are still
managed by Martins Saulespurens in Latvia. Most importantly, all our
products are still Blue's unique designs.


Finally, Juris Zarins and Scruples had nothing to do with Blue?s
restoration service. Our restoration service particularly inhibited
the production output of our Bottle microphone; we therefore
discontinued the service in order to fully concentrate on the Bottle
and other Blue products. We can only guess that JZ Equipment says they
offer restoration services because that?s what Blue had done.


We hope this information has proven helpful, and would like to thank
you all very much for your interest in what the future holds for
Blue Microphones. For our part, we are very proud to have served this
industry for ten years now, and can?t wait to bring even better
solutions to the recording industry for another ten years ? and
beyond!


Thanks,
Ari Soudak


"DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote in message
news:42fe36ca@linux...
> Dedric..........here's the complete skinny on this whole Blue vs Violet
> thing from Blue's perspective. Sounds pretty legit to me.
>
>
http://www.audio-forum.net/pro/BLUE_mic_vs_Violet_the_offici al_response_1033
> 051.html
>
>
> "DTerry" <dterry@no_spamkeyofd.net> wrote in message
> news:BF23700A.3A49%dterry@no_spamkeyofd.net...
> > Anyone tried Violet's line of mics? The maker claims to be the original
> Blue
> > mic designer - apparently a falling out, and they seem to be at war now.
> >
> > I checked out the site and now get newsletter emails from them. Here's
an
> > excerpt:
> >
> > "Indeed, yesterday we set up a 10-day eBay auction for Violet Design
> > Flamingo Junior. Starting bid was $0.01 We got over 30 bids on this item
> and
> > had many, many watchers!
> >
> > Today this eBay item was removed because blue decided that they can use
> eBay
> > VeRO program to remove anyone who tries to be competition to their "new
> > great sounding Chinese" knock-offs. Sorry guys, but we do not compete
with
> > Chinese manufactures. A Rolls-Royce is a Rolls and a Hyundai is just
that.
> > Please, do not devaluate JZ's designs with 10-dollar Chinese capsules.
> >
> > And by the way, the Flamingo Junior was released early in 2005; quite a
> > while after JZ's factory stopped sales to the Blue. Now, it seems that
> blue
> > and Martins Saulspurens is trying to claim rights to anything their
> > ex-employer Juris Zarins has designed or will ever design to be blue
> > property. Could anyone imagine something more absurd, completely
inhuman,
> > immoral and utterly wrong?"
> >
> > Any truth to this (in that it only implies either great mics, or illegal
> > copies on one side or the other)? Either way I'm more interested in
> quality
> > mics than turf wars. I've always liked Blue mics, but only recently
heard
> > of Violet.
> >
> > Regards,
> > Dedric
> >
>
>Thanks for setting me straight, DJ. I thought it was DPA instead of Shoeps.
I've got a good project coming up in a couple of weeks that a stereo pair
would work great on. Can't wait to pull out the old credit card...

David L

Regarding Amy, I hope the treatment is effective. FWIW, a friend of mine is
alive today because of stem cell treatment he received a few years ago. Best
wishes for you both.

On 12-Aug-2005, "DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote:

> I have talked to John Peluso about these mics. He mentioned that the
> design
> was based on a Shoeps circuit (CMC 5 amp IIRC). He said that they are
> getting a lot of use on film sets where the Shoeps mics have been a staple
> item for years.David,

Let me know how you like these..........and thanks for the encouragement.

;o)

"David Leonard" <david@writeside.biz> wrote in message
news:42fe4d70@linux...
> Thanks for setting me straight, DJ. I thought it was DPA instead of
Shoeps.
> I've got a good project coming up in a couple of weeks that a stereo pair
> would work great on. Can't wait to pull out the old credit card...
>
> David L
>
> Regarding Amy, I hope the treatment is effective. FWIW, a friend of mine
is
> alive today because of stem cell treatment he received a few years ago.
Best
> wishes for you both.
>
> On 12-Aug-2005, "DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote:
>
> > I have talked to John Peluso about these mics. He mentioned that the
> > design
> > was based on a Shoeps circuit (CMC 5 amp IIRC). He said that they are
> > getting a lot of use on film sets where the Shoeps mics have been a
staple
> > item for years............sorta' suck actually. I'
I'm getting ready to do my first ful album mix using this technique. I'm
batch processing a 14 song project, song by song across a network using
Wavelab 5.0.

what this involves is:

1. Editing the tracks and then rendering all .paf's in each song to have
00:00:00 start points.

2. Batch processing them to .wav files in WL

3. Importing each .wav file into the appropriate track in a Cubase SX
project so that it's playing back through the Paris submix I want so that I
can take advantage of my outboard reverbs which are patched in digitally
*per submix*. (the patchbay setups to stream from SX to Paris are already
saved as templates in the respective programs so that's not a big deal)

4. Deleting the Tracks in the SX project I'm not using (again......no big
deal, but another step nonetheless).

Once this is done, it's just a matter of bringing up the faders in SX,
applying my processors and I'm ready to start mixing.

The advantages to this are that all of my outboard and UAD-1 and other VST
plugins are automatically delay compensated.

The disadvantages are that it takes about 2 - 3 hours to get ready to mix a
project of this size whereas I could be up and running in much less time if
I was using the UAD-1 cards in my Paris rig. Still, there would be manual
delay compensation issues galore with UAD-1 and using external gear on the
inserts because there is mic bleed all over the tracks in this project.

Maybe the time spent getting the project ready for mixing in SX > Paris
would be a wash when taking into account all of the manual delay
compensation moves I would have to do per track/per song in Paris using UAD
plugs and external gear, but it sure seems like a long setup
process.......but I guess not nearly as long as splicing and then spooling
up multiple reels of 2" tape.

But anyway.......it's a bit of a hassle.........gripe..... grumble.

Deej the curmudgeon.It's funny about cables. I've got my entire rack wired with Mogami and was
running Mogami direct from my mics to my preamps. Should be an optimal
situation with mic tio pre runs of 50' max, right? Well, I tried an
experiment wth an old (circa 70's?) Whirlwind Medusa 100' long from my
preamp inputs to a stage box out in my tracking room. I mean, this thing is
*old*, but is in great shape and built like a brick shithouse. I bought it
out of a club in NYC where it had been part of a permanent install. I'm
liking the sound of this 100' Medusa cable run plus the actual distance of
the mic cables that are feeding it as much or better than I was getting from
the Mogami cable feeding directly from the mics to the preamps. Go figure.

I'll probably wire myself up a similar stage box using 24 pair Mogami at
some point in the future, but I'm wondering if it will sound any better

Deej

"DC" <DC@cablehell.org> wrote in message news:42fbf4c0$1@linux...
>
> Hah!
>
> Hey a client of ours actually specified a 300 foot run of Canare
> Quad in front of the mic pres...
>
> Think he's got anything at all over 10K? Think there's any
> group delay?
>
> arrgghhhh
>
> But the client is always right, right?
>
> DC
>
>
> EK Sound <spamnot.info@eksoundNO.com> wrote:
> >That's a good thing though... it'll smooth out them screeeechy fiddles
> >you record! ;-)
> >
> >David.
> >
> >DC wrote:
> >> We are moving away from Canare because of the high capacitance.
> >> At long runs, it rolls off the extreme highs.
> >>
> >> For 25' mic cords it shouldn't be an issue.
> >>
> >> DC
> >>
> >>
> >> "W. Mark Wilson" <wmarkwilson@verizon.net> wrote:
> >>
> >>>Markertek's got the L4E6S Canare Quad Star at almost half the price of
> the
> >>
> >>
> >>>W2549 Mogami; priced by the foot.
> >>>
> >>>Dubya
> >>>
> >>>"DC" <DC@steenkingbadgers.com> wrote in message
news:42f86edd$1@linux...
> >>>
> >>>>The source, receiving unit, and input/output impedance are
> >>>>much more important than the cable. With mics, with proper
> >>>>termination, cables don't make as big a difference as with guitars.
> >>>>
> >>>>Having said that, recording orchestras will show you quickly that
> >>>>even a little change can make a difference.
> >>>>
> >>>>I like Cardas, Zaolla, and Mogami mic cables, but I would look at the
> >>>>whole signal chain before buying an expensive cable. (the Mogami
> >>>>W2549 is not expensive and is very good, the others are good but
> >>>>very expensive)
> >>>>
> >>>>Where can I find good Greek food in Los Angeles??
> >>>>
> >>>>:-]
> >>>>
> >>>>DC
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>DImitrios <musurgio@otenet.gr> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>>I have used for the last 4 years Ramtech cable and I am striving to
> get
> >>>>
> >>>>>that warm sound I used to get when I was using in my older studio
Klotz
> >>>>
> >>>>>cable.
> >>>>>I am definetely sure that the cabling is responsible for that.
> >>>>>I get now this trebly zingy kind of sound when with Klotz I had a
> >>>>>flatter warmer sound.
> >>>>>Anyone sharing any thoughts tests on this matter ?
> >>>>>Any suggestion as per cable brand ?
> >>>>>Regards,
> >>>>>Dimitrios
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>
>Thanks DJ. That does sound legit. As long as Blue's quality and designs
are as consistent as pre 2004, that's enough for me.

Regards,
Dedric

On 8/13/05 12:08 PM, in article 42fe36ca@linux, "DJ"
<animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote:

> Dedric..........here's the complete skinny on this whole Blue vs Violet
> thing from Blue's perspective. Sounds pretty legit to me.
>
> http://www.audio-forum.net/pro/BLUE_mic_vs_Violet_the_offici al_response_1033
> 051.html
>
>
> "DTerry" <dterry@no_spamkeyofd.net> wrote in message
> news:BF23700A.3A49%dterry@no_spamkeyofd.net...
>> Anyone tried Violet's line of mics? The maker claims to be the original
> Blue
>> mic designer - apparently a falling out, and they seem to be at war now.
>>
>> I checked out the site and now get newsletter emails from them. Here's an
>> excerpt:
>>
>> "Indeed, yesterday we set up a 10-day eBay auction for Violet Design
>> Flamingo Junior. Starting bid was $0.01 We got over 30 bids on this item
> and
>> had many, many watchers!
>>
>> Today this eBay item was removed because blue decided that they can use
> eBay
>> VeRO program to remove anyone who tries to be competition to their "new
>> great sounding Chinese" knock-offs. Sorry guys, but we do not compete with
>> Chinese manufactures. A Rolls-Royce is a Rolls and a Hyundai is just that.
>> Please, do not devaluate JZ's designs with 10-dollar Chinese capsules.
>>
>> And by the way, the Flamingo Junior was released early in 2005; quite a
>> while after JZ's factory stopped sales to the Blue. Now, it seems that
> blue
>> and Martins Saulspurens is trying to claim rights to anything their
>> ex-employer Juris Zarins has designed or will ever design to be blue
>> property. Could anyone imagine something more absurd, completely inhuman,
>> immoral and utterly wrong?"
>>
>> Any truth to this (in that it only implies either great mics, or illegal
>> copies on one side or the other)? Either way I'm more interested in
> quality
>> mics than turf wars. I've always liked Blue mics, but only recently heard
>> of Violet.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Dedric
>>
>
>Deej,
It's getting closer to the time to migrate to SX for you, my old mate.
--
Martin Harrington
www.lendanear-sound.com

"DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote in message
news:42fe54a0@linux...
> ..........sorta' suck actually. I'
> I'm getting ready to do my first ful album mix using this technique. I'm
> batch processing a 14 song project, song by song across a network using
> Wavelab 5.0.
>
> what this involves is:
>
> 1. Editing the tracks and then rendering all .paf's in each song to have
> 00:00:00 start points.
>
> 2. Batch processing them to .wav files in WL
>
> 3. Importing each .wav file into the appropriate track in a Cubase SX
> project so that it's playing back through the Paris submix I want so that
> I
> can take advantage of my outboard reverbs which are patched in digitally
> *per submix*. (the patchbay setups to stream from SX to Paris are already
> saved as templates in the respective programs so that's not a big deal)
>
> 4. Deleting the Tracks in the SX project I'm not using (again......no big
> deal, but another step nonetheless).
>
> Once this is done, it's just a matter of bringing up the faders in SX,
> applying my processors and I'm ready to start mixing.
>
> The advantages to this are that all of my outboard and UAD-1 and other VST
> plugins are automatically delay compensated.
>
> The disadvantages are that it takes about 2 - 3 hours to get ready to mix
> a
> project of this size whereas I could be up and running in much less time
> if
> I was using the UAD-1 cards in my Paris rig. Still, there would be manual
> delay compensation issues galore with UAD-1 and using external gear on the
> inserts because there is mic bleed all over the tracks in this project.
>
> Maybe the time spent getting the project ready for mixing in SX > Paris
> would be a wash when taking into account all of the manual delay
> compensation moves I would have to do per track/per song in Paris using
> UAD
> plugs and external gear, but it sure seems like a long setup
> process.......but I guess not nearly as long as splicing and then spooling
> up multiple reels of 2" tape.
>
> But anyway.......it's a bit of a hassle.........gripe..... grumble.
>
> Deej the curmudgeon.
>
>So is it possible to get a native fx loop on the global master yet? maybe
with wormhole etc..

I am on XP..Paris3.0.

1 MEC , 1 Adat, 1 8in , 1 8out
My machine has a SPDIF in/out built in the mobo.
I have wavelab4 , cooleditpro.

I was wanting to attempt this on the same machine , but will get another
machine if neccessary.

I want to be able to monitor thru PARIS MEC 8outs (24bit).

I have not been able to get the paris ASIO drivers to work on this machine.

Please tell me YES..

BrandonASIO for Paris has not ever been ready for primetime use IMO, and many
people - though not all - have not even been able to get it to work at all.
I wouldn't put any eggs in that basket my friend.
As for native FX on the global, I don't believe the architecture of paris
will allow for this from within the program. That being said, you could
patch an external insert and route it into another host (there will be
endless variations here) DirectX/VST application through another sound card.

AA


"Brandon" <brandon_goodwin@REMOVETHISsbcglobal.net> wrote in message
news:42fe8b08@linux...
> So is it possible to get a native fx loop on the global master yet? maybe
> with wormhole etc..
>
> I am on XP..Paris3.0.
>
> 1 MEC , 1 Adat, 1 8in , 1 8out
> My machine has a SPDIF in/out built in the mobo.
> I have wavelab4 , cooleditpro.
>
> I was wanting to attempt this on the same machine , but will get another
> machine if neccessary.
>
> I want to be able to monitor thru PARIS MEC 8outs (24bit).
>
> I have not been able to get the paris ASIO drivers to work on this
> machine.
>
> Please tell me YES..
>
> Brandon
>Hey Deej,

Which Mogami are you using?

DC


"DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote:
>It's funny about cables. I've got my entire rack wired with Mogami and was
>running Mogami direct from my mics to my preamps. Should be an optimal
>situation with mic tio pre runs of 50' max, right? Well, I tried an
>experiment wth an old (circa 70's?) Whirlwind Medusa 100' long from my
>preamp inputs to a stage box out in my tracking room. I mean, this thing
is
>*old*, but is in great shape and built like a brick shithouse. I bought
it
>out of a club in NYC where it had been part of a permanent install. I'm
>liking the sound of this 100' Medusa cable run plus the actual distance
of
>the mic cables that are feeding it as much or better than I was getting
from
>the Mogami cable feeding directly from the mics to the preamps. Go figure.
>
>I'll probably wire myself up a similar stage box using 24 pair Mogami at
>some point in the future, but I'm wondering if it will sound any better
>
>Deej
>
>"DC" <DC@cablehell.org> wrote in message news:42fbf4c0$1@linux...
>>
>> Hah!
>>
>> Hey a client of ours actually specified a 300 foot run of Canare
>> Quad in front of the mic pres...
>>
>> Think he's got anything at all over 10K? Think there's any
>> group delay?
>>
>> arrgghhhh
>>
>> But the client is always right, right?
>>
>> DC
>>
>>
>> EK Sound <spamnot.info@eksoundNO.com> wrote:
>> >That's a good thing though... it'll smooth out them screeeechy fiddles
>> >you record! ;-)
>> >
>> >David.
>> >
>> >DC wrote:
>> >> We are moving away from Canare because of the high capacitance.
>> >> At long runs, it rolls off the extreme highs.
>> >>
>> >> For 25' mic cords it shouldn't be an issue.
>> >>
>> >> DC
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> "W. Mark Wilson" <wmarkwilson@verizon.net> wrote:
>> >>
>> >>>Markertek's got the L4E6S Canare Quad Star at almost half the price
of
>> the
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>>W2549 Mogami; priced by the foot.
>> >>>
>> >>>Dubya
>> >>>
>> >>>"DC" <DC@steenkingbadgers.com> wrote in message
>news:42f86edd$1@linux...
>> >>>
>> >>>>The source, receiving unit, and input/output impedance are
>> >>>>much more important than the cable. With mics, with proper
>> >>>>termination, cables don't make as big a difference as with guitars.
>> >>>>
>> >>>>Having said that, recording orchestras will show you quickly that
>> >>>>even a little change can make a difference.
>> >>>>
>> >>>>I like Cardas, Zaolla, and Mogami mic cables, but I would look at
the
>> >>>>whole signal chain before buying an expensive cable. (the Mogami
>> >>>>W2549 is not expensive and is very good, the others are good but
>> >>>>very expensive)
>> >>>>
>> >>>>Where can I find good Greek food in Los Angeles??
>> >>>>
>> >>>>:-]
>> >>>>
>> >>>>DC
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>DImitrios <musurgio@otenet.gr> wrote:
>> >>>>
>> >>>>>I have used for the last 4 years Ramtech cable and I am striving
to
>> get
>> >>>>
>> >>>>>that warm sound I used to get when I was using in my older studio
>Klotz
>> >>>>
>> >>>>>cable.
>> >>>>>I am definetely sure that the cabling is responsible for that.
>> >>>>>I get now this trebly zingy kind of sound when with Klotz I had a
>> >>>>>flatter warmer sound.
>> >>>>>Anyone sharing any thoughts tests on this matter ?
>> >>>>>Any suggestion as per cable brand ?
>> >>>>>Regards,
>> >>>>>Dimitrios
>> >>>>
>> >>>
>> >>
>>
>
>> patch an external insert and route it into another host (there will be
> endless variations here) DirectX/VST application through another sound
card

Huh?????????...........say whaaaaaa???????

;op

"Aaron Allen" <nospam@not_here.dude> wrote in message news:42fe91a7@linux...
> ASIO for Paris has not ever been ready for primetime use IMO, and many
> people - though not all - have not even been able to get it to work at
all.
> I wouldn't put any eggs in that basket my friend.
> As for native FX on the global, I don't believe the architecture of paris
> will allow for this from within the program. That being said, you could
> patch an external insert and route it into another host (there will be
> endless variations here) DirectX/VST application through another sound
card.
>
> AA
>
>
> "Brandon" <brandon_goodwin@REMOVETHISsbcglobal.net> wrote in message
> news:42fe8b08@linux...
> > So is it possible to get a native fx loop on the global master yet?
maybe
> > with wormhole etc..
> >
> > I am on XP..Paris3.0.
> >
> > 1 MEC , 1 Adat, 1 8in , 1 8out
> > My machine has a SPDIF in/out built in the mobo.
> > I have wavelab4 , cooleditpro.
> >
> > I was wanting to attempt this on the same machine , but will get another
> > machine if neccessary.
> >
> > I want to be able to monitor thru PARIS MEC 8outs (24bit).
> >
> > I have not been able to get the paris ASIO drivers to work on this
> > machine.
> >
> > Please tell me YES..
> >
> > Brandon
> >
>
>Chuck,

Any news at all on this? Is it possible that any or all of these will work,
even sorta'kinda'maybesometimes ?

Thanks,

DJYou may be right. Thing is, tracking in Paris and basic editing is soooooo
easy. I am starting to get my head around SX though and I must say that it's
very powerful.
Now that I've got this stuff set up, I've learned a few shortcuts that is
making it a bit easier and I'm absolutely loving the sound I'm getting
mixing on both DAWs simultaneously. Is it any better than just mixing in
SX???.......Well, I think I could probably achieve something very close to
what I'm getting now with a different approach. There is a sonic advantage
in summing to Paris. The thing that's happening is being able to get certain
tracks plenty hot (around +6dBfs if desired) at 32bit float in SX, then
sending this hot stuff to Paris and letting the Paris mix bus do it's thing.
Too much gets a bit gnarly, but there's the same kinda' *glue* that is
reminiscent of *you know what*.

;o)




"Martin Harrington" <lendan@bigpond.net.au> wrote in message
news:42fe79a8$1@linux...
> Deej,
> It's getting closer to the time to migrate to SX for you, my old mate.
> --
> Martin Harrington
> www.lendanear-sound.com
>
> "DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote in message
> news:42fe54a0@linux...
> > ..........sorta' suck actually. I'
> > I'm getting ready to do my first ful album mix using this technique. I'm
> > batch processing a 14 song project, song by song across a network using
> > Wavelab 5.0.
> >
> > what this involves is:
> >
> > 1. Editing the tracks and then rendering all .paf's in each song to have
> > 00:00:00 start points.
> >
> > 2. Batch processing them to .wav files in WL
> >
> > 3. Importing each .wav file into the appropriate track in a Cubase SX
> > project so that it's playing back through the Paris submix I want so
that
> > I
> > can take advantage of my outboard reverbs which are patched in digitally
> > *per submix*. (the patchbay setups to stream from SX to Paris are
already
> > saved as templates in the respective programs so that's not a big deal)
> >
> > 4. Deleting the Tracks in the SX project I'm not using (again......no
big
> > deal, but another step nonetheless).
> >
> > Once this is done, it's just a matter of bringing up the faders in SX,
> > applying my processors and I'm ready to start mixing.
> >
> > The advantages to this are that all of my outboard and UAD-1 and other
VST
> > plugins are automatically delay compensated.
> >
> > The disadvantages are that it takes about 2 - 3 hours to get ready to
mix
> > a
> > project of this size whereas I could be up and running in much less time
> > if
> > I was using the UAD-1 cards in my Paris rig. Still, there would be
manual
> > delay compensation issues galore with UAD-1 and using external gear on
the
> > inserts because there is mic bleed all over the tracks in this project.
> >
> > Maybe the time spent getting the project ready for mixing in SX > Paris
> > would be a wash when taking into account all of the manual delay
> > compensation moves I would have to do per track/per song in Paris using
> > UAD
> > plugs and external gear, but it sure seems like a long setup
> > process.......but I guess not nearly as long as splicing and then
spooling
> > up multiple reels of 2" tape.
> >
> > But anyway.......it's a bit of a hassle.........gripe..... grumble.
> >
> > Deej the curmudgeon.
> >
> >
>
>Don,

I'm using 2792 mic cable for patch cables and various single balanced cable
runs, and lots of different lengths of MG 2931 and MG 2932 (4 and 8 pair
snakes) for my runs to my patchbays from my AD/DA converters and my vazrious
analog gear. I recently added a few pieces of gear that are patched in with
short runs of some older Horizon cabling with for the time being until I can
get around to building some more Mogami cable runs. Not noticing a sonic hit
with this, but I've got a 100' roll of Mogami 2792 here that's going to get
chopped up pretty soon.

;o)

"DC" <dc@ouchdangsolder.com> wrote in message news:42fec18d$1@linux...
>
> Hey Deej,
>
> Which Mogami are you using?
>
> DC
>
>
> "DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote:
> >It's funny about cables. I've got my entire rack wired with Mogami and
was
> >running Mogami direct from my mics to my preamps. Should be an optimal
> >situation with mic tio pre runs of 50' max, right? Well, I tried an
> >experiment wth an old (circa 70's?) Whirlwind Medusa 100' long from my
> >preamp inputs to a stage box out in my tracking room. I mean, this thing
> is
> >*old*, but is in great shape and built like a brick shithouse. I bought
> it
> >out of a club in NYC where it had been part of a permanent install. I'm
> >liking the sound of this 100' Medusa cable run plus the actual distance
> of
> >the mic cables that are feeding it as much or better than I was getting
> from
> >the Mogami cable feeding directly from the mics to the preamps. Go
figure.
> >
> >I'll probably wire myself up a similar stage box using 24 pair Mogami at
> >some point in the future, but I'm wondering if it will sound any better
> >
> >Deej
> >
> >"DC" <DC@cablehell.org> wrote in message news:42fbf4c0$1@linux...
> >>
> >> Hah!
> >>
> >> Hey a client of ours actually specified a 300 foot run of Canare
> >> Quad in front of the mic pres...
> >>
> >> Think he's got anything at all over 10K? Think there's any
> >> group delay?
> >>
> >> arrgghhhh
> >>
> >> But the client is always right, right?
> >>
> >> DC
> >>
> >>
> >> EK Sound <spamnot.info@eksoundNO.com> wrote:
> >> >That's a good thing though... it'll smooth out them screeeechy fiddles
> >> >you record! ;-)
> >> >
> >> >David.
> >> >
> >> >DC wrote:
> >> >> We are moving away from Canare because of the high capacitance.
> >> >> At long runs, it rolls off the extreme highs.
> >> >>
> >> >> For 25' mic cords it shouldn't be an issue.
> >> >>
> >> >> DC
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> "W. Mark Wilson" <wmarkwilson@verizon.net> wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >>>Markertek's got the L4E6S Canare Quad Star at almost half the price
> of
> >> the
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>>W2549 Mogami; priced by the foot.
> >> >>>
> >> >>>Dubya
> >> >>>
> >> >>>"DC" <DC@steenkingbadgers.com> wrote in message
> >news:42f86edd$1@linux...
> >> >>>
> >> >>>>The source, receiving unit, and input/output impedance are
> >> >>>>much more important than the cable. With mics, with proper
> >> >>>>termination, cables don't make as big a difference as with guitars.
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>Having said that, recording orchestras will show you quickly that
> >> >>>>even a little change can make a difference.
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>I like Cardas, Zaolla, and Mogami mic cables, but I would look at
> the
> >> >>>>whole signal chain before buying an expensive cable. (the Mogami
> >> >>>>W2549 is not expensive and is very good, the others are good but
> >> >>>>very expensive)
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>Where can I find good Greek food in Los Angeles??
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>:-]
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>DC
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>DImitrios <musurgio@otenet.gr> wrote:
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>>I have used for the last 4 years Ramtech cable and I am striving
> to
> >> get
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>>that warm sound I used to get when I was using in my older studio
> >Klotz
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>>cable.
> >> >>>>>I am definetely sure that the cabling is responsible for that.
> >> >>>>>I get now this trebly zingy kind of sound when with Klotz I had a
> >> >>>>>flatter warmer sound.
> >> >>>>>Anyone sharing any thoughts tests on this matter ?
> >> >>>>>Any suggestion as per cable brand ?
> >> >>>>>Regards,
> >> >>>>>Dimitrios
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>
> >>
> >
> >
>There's some interesting info on this here:

http://www.3daudioinc.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_top ic&f=1&t=001396




"DTerry" <dterry@no_spamkeyofd.net> wrote in message
news:BF23D358.3A58%dterry@no_spamkeyofd.net...
> Thanks DJ. That does sound legit. As long as Blue's quality and designs
> are as consistent as pre 2004, that's enough for me.
>
> Regards,
> Dedric
>
> On 8/13/05 12:08 PM, in article 42fe36ca@linux, "DJ"
> <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote:
>
> > Dedric..........here's the complete skinny on this whole Blue vs Violet
> > thing from Blue's perspective. Sounds pretty legit to me.
> >
> >
http://www.audio-forum.net/pro/BLUE_mic_vs_Violet_the_offici al_response_1033
> > 051.html
> >
> >
> > "DTerry" <dterry@no_spamkeyofd.net> wrote in message
> > news:BF23700A.3A49%dterry@no_spamkeyofd.net...
> >> Anyone tried Violet's line of mics? The maker claims to be the original
> > Blue
> >> mic designer - apparently a falling out, and they seem to be at war
now.
> >>
> >> I checked out the site and now get newsletter emails from them. Here's
an
> >> excerpt:
> >>
> >> "Indeed, yesterday we set up a 10-day eBay auction for Violet Design
> >> Flamingo Junior. Starting bid was $0.01 We got over 30 bids on this
item
> > and
> >> had many, many watchers!
> >>
> >> Today this eBay item was removed because blue decided that they can use
> > eBay
> >> VeRO program to remove anyone who tries to be competition to their "new
> >> great sounding Chinese" knock-offs. Sorry guys, but we do not compete
with
> >> Chinese manufactures. A Rolls-Royce is a Rolls and a Hyundai is just
that.
> >> Please, do not devaluate JZ's designs with 10-dollar Chinese capsules.
> >>
> >> And by the way, the Flamingo Junior was released early in 2005; quite a
> >> while after JZ's factory stopped sales to the Blue. Now, it seems that
> > blue
> >> and Martins Saulspurens is trying to claim rights to anything their
> >> ex-employer Juris Zarins has designed or will ever design to be blue
> >> property. Could anyone imagine something more absurd, completely
inhuman,
> >> immoral and utterly wrong?"
> >>
> >> Any truth to this (in that it only implies either great mics, or
illegal
> >> copies on one side or the other)? Either way I'm more interested in
> > quality
> >> mics than turf wars. I've always liked Blue mics, but only recently
heard
> >> of Violet.
> >>
> >> Regards,
> >> Dedric
> >>
> >
> >
>hey dj what ever happend to the hardware modules you were working on?


"DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote in message
news:42fec453@linux...
> Chuck,
>
> Any news at all on this? Is it possible that any or all of these will
> work,
> even sorta'kinda'maybesometimes ?
>
> Thanks,
>
> DJ
>
>Good question. I'll check into this.......again.

;o)

"Brandon" <brandon_goodwin@REMOVETHISsbcglobal.net> wrote in message
news:42ff588a@linux...
> hey dj what ever happend to the hardware modules you were working on?
>
>
> "DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote in message
> news:42fec453@linux...
> > Chuck,
> >
> > Any news at all on this? Is it possible that any or all of these will
> > work,
> > even sorta'kinda'maybesometimes ?
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > DJ
> >
> >
>
>Can a hard loop be made from the lightpipe ADAT out to the ADAT in without
using the sync?

Will anything be lost or jittery?Global Master Outs to the ADAT lightpipe outs
Hard Loop from ADAT lightpipe Out to ADAT lightpipe In
ADAT lightpipe In to Tacks 15 & 16 (L&R respectively)
Mute Tracks 15 &16 and Insert instance of Wormhole on each track
Open WaveLab and Or CoolEdit Pro and Insert Wormhole on two new tracks
(L&R)
Use VST/DX plugs from within and bounce inside the second app. Should not
loose any PARIS sound since Digital transfer correct?
Then go SPDIF out to converter to XLR for my monitors

This is all on one machine.

Possible?????

I don't know if wormhole works like this or if I can hard loop on ADAT like
that without clocking.The SPDIF out is from my mobo sound card by the way...



"Brandon" <brandon_goodwin@REMOVETHISsbcglobal.net> wrote in message
news:42ff5fda@linux...
> Global Master Outs to the ADAT lightpipe outs
> Hard Loop from ADAT lightpipe Out to ADAT lightpipe In
> ADAT lightpipe In to Tacks 15 & 16 (L&R respectively)
> Mute Tracks 15 &16 and Insert instance of Wormhole on each track
> Open WaveLab and Or CoolEdit Pro and Insert Wormhole on two new tracks
> (L&R)
> Use VST/DX plugs from within and bounce inside the second app. Should not
> loose any PARIS sound since Digital transfer correct?
> Then go SPDIF out to converter to XLR for my monitors
>
> This is all on one machine.
>
> Possible?????
>
> I don't know if wormhole works like this or if I can hard loop on ADAT
> like that without clocking.
>
>Absolutely, this is being done all the time. Simply clock
the external device to the adat port and you're off.

David.

Brandon wrote:
> Can a hard loop be made from the lightpipe ADAT out to the ADAT in without
> using the sync?
>
> Will anything be lost or jittery?
>
>
>external device?

no external device....just trying to route sound within PARIS.




"Dave(EK Sound)" <audioguy_nospam_@shaw.ca> wrote in message
news:42ff61f9$1@linux...
> Absolutely, this is being done all the time. Simply clock the external
> device to the adat port and you're off.
>
> David.
>
> Brandon wrote:
>> Can a hard loop be made from the lightpipe ADAT out to the ADAT in
>> without
>> using the sync?
>>
>> Will anything be lost or jittery?
>>
>>It really sounds to me like Blue and JZ weren't clear on what constituted
"design" from the outset. JZ probably felt that he had a right to design
based on some manufacturing decisions (or maybe he did design them), and
Blue felt they had a right because they paid for it, or designed some
component of the mic. I don't recall hearing stories about either Skipper
or Martins being the "original" designer, or concept creator. None of
Blue's posts indicates that either, but rather claim Blue as a company as
the owner. JZ isn't presenting his argument very professionally, but a
language barrier may be making it difficult. Really hard to say. He may
have "adopted" the designs from years of manufacturing them - pretty simple
trap to fall into. Or Blue may have assumed ownership because of a flimsy
agreement with JZ. Perhaps only time will tell.

The only test I can imagine would be for anyone with an older (pre 2004)
Blue mic to put it up against a new version of the same mic (2005 and out).
If they match, Blue may be right, if not, Blue is likely trying to make wine
out of water. This is by no means a fool proof test, but probably the
closest we as users will ever get to surmising what really happened.

Regards,
Dedric

On 8/14/05 2:35 AM, in article 42ff01cc$1@linux, "DJ"
<animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote:

> There's some interesting info on this here:
>
> http://www.3daudioinc.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_top ic&f=1&t=001396
>
>
>
>
> "DTerry" <dterry@no_spamkeyofd.net> wrote in message
> news:BF23D358.3A58%dterry@no_spamkeyofd.net...
>> Thanks DJ. That does sound legit. As long as Blue's quality and designs
>> are as consistent as pre 2004, that's enough for me.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Dedric
>>
>> On 8/13/05 12:08 PM, in article 42fe36ca@linux, "DJ"
>> <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote:
>>
>>> Dedric..........here's the complete skinny on this whole Blue vs Violet
>>> thing from Blue's perspective. Sounds pretty legit to me.
>>>
>>>
> http://www.audio-forum.net/pro/BLUE_mic_vs_Violet_the_offici al_response_1033
>>> 051.html
>>>
>>>
>>> "DTerry" <dterry@no_spamkeyofd.net> wrote in message
>>> news:BF23700A.3A49%dterry@no_spamkeyofd.net...
>>>> Anyone tried Violet's line of mics? The maker claims to be the original
>>> Blue
>>>> mic designer - apparently a falling out, and they seem to be at war
> now.
>>>>
>>>> I checked out the site and now get newsletter emails from them. Here's
> an
>>>> excerpt:
>>>>
>>>> "Indeed, yesterday we set up a 10-day eBay auction for Violet Design
>>>> Flamingo Junior. Starting bid was $0.01 We got over 30 bids on this
> item
>>> and
>>>> had many, many watchers!
>>>>
>>>> Today this eBay item was removed because blue decided that they can use
>>> eBay
>>>> VeRO program to remove anyone who tries to be competition to their "new
>>>> great sounding Chinese" knock-offs. Sorry guys, but we do not compete
> with
>>>> Chinese manufactures. A Rolls-Royce is a Rolls and a Hyundai is just
> that.
>>>> Please, do not devaluate JZ's designs with 10-dollar Chinese capsules.
>>>>
>>>> And by the way, the Flamingo Junior was released early in 2005; quite a
>>>> while after JZ's factory stopped sales to the Blue. Now, it seems that
>>> blue
>>>> and Martins Saulspurens is trying to claim rights to anything their
>>>> ex-employer Juris Zarins has designed or will ever design to be blue
>>>> property. Could anyone imagine something more absurd, completely
> inhuman,
>>>> immoral and utterly wrong?"
>>>>
>>>> Any truth to this (in that it only implies either great mics, or
> illegal
>>>> copies on one side or the other)? Either way I'm more interested in
>>> quality
>>>> mics than turf wars. I've always liked Blue mics, but only recently
> heard
>>>> of Violet.
>>>>
>>>> Regards,
>>>> Dedric
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>
>Ah, yes, this will also work.

David.

Brandon wrote:

> external device?
>
> no external device....just trying to route sound within PARIS.
>
>
>
>
> "Dave(EK Sound)" <audioguy_nospam_@shaw.ca> wrote in message
> news:42ff61f9$1@linux...
>
>>Absolutely, this is being done all the time. Simply clock the external
>>device to the adat port and you're off.
>>
>>David.
>>
>>Brandon wrote:
>>
>>>Can a hard loop be made from the lightpipe ADAT out to the ADAT in
>>>without
>>>using the sync?
>>>
>>>Will anything be lost or jittery?
>>>
>>>
>
>http://www.animusic.com/dvd-info-clips-1.htmljustcron wrote:
> http://www.animusic.com/dvd-info-clips-1.html
>
>
That's crazy..

The drum machine one is cool.. it's drumagog circa 1899... now if it could just sync to the player piano :)

TCexcellent!

d


"TC" <tc@spammetodeathyoubastards.org> wrote in message
news:42ff7eba$1@linux...
> justcron wrote:
>> http://www.animusic.com/dvd-info-clips-1.html
> That's crazy..
>
> The drum machine one is cool.. it's drumagog circa 1899... now if it could
> just sync to the player piano :)
>
> TCHehe... now they must have taken a while to make. ;o)

"justcron" <justcron@hydrorecords.compound> wrote:
>http://www.animusic.com/dvd-info-clips-1.html
>
>Yup, do it here as needed... sometimes I'll bounce out tracks this way when
the 'render' function blows chunks. No loss that I've been able to detect,
and should not be anyway as it's a digital connect and the clock source is
all internal Paris driven.
AA


"Brandon" <brandon_goodwin@REMOVETHISsbcglobal.net> wrote in message
news:42ff5dde@linux...
> Can a hard loop be made from the lightpipe ADAT out to the ADAT in without
> using the sync?
>
> Will anything be lost or jittery?
>
>
>Ask Deej; he'll know for sure. Hey, and while your at it, I think you
should find some place in your loops to insert a nice warm sounding 70's
lavalamp.... reddish orange would probably sound good.

Global Master Out,
Dubya

(all written "tongue-in-cheek" I assure you).


"Brandon" <brandon_goodwin@REMOVETHISsbcglobal.net> wrote in message
news:42ff5fda@linux...
> Global Master Outs to the ADAT lightpipe outs
> Hard Loop from ADAT lightpipe Out to ADAT lightpipe In
> ADAT lightpipe In to Tacks 15 & 16 (L&R respectively)
> Mute Tracks 15 &16 and Insert instance of Wormhole on each track
> Open WaveLab and Or CoolEdit Pro and Insert Wormhole on two new tracks
> (L&R)
> Use VST/DX plugs from within and bounce inside the second app. Should not
> loose any PARIS sound since Digital transfer correct?
> Then go SPDIF out to converter to XLR for my monitors
>
> This is all on one machine.
>
> Possible?????
>
> I don't know if wormhole works like this or if I can hard loop on ADAT
> like that without clocking.
>
>Hi,

Sorry to trouble y’all again but I’m having some problems with Paris 3 on
XP and am pulling out what remains of my hair. System details below. I’ve
been running Paris on 98 / ME since 1998 and have done several installs (probably
about 8 on ME/98 SE), but this is my first XP boot (actually second, since
it was unstable the first time… and still is now).

1) With 1 card running, the system was unstable. It would sometimes crash,
particularly when opening a project after having closed another project.
Sometimes a crash would trigger the machine to reboot (i.e. just reset it).
Equally (perhaps even more!) frustratingly, EDS effects presets (even in
the main library) would not save when Paris was rebooted. Other than that,
everything was fine.

2) Having added a second recently purchased second-hand card, I’m now getting
Error 2/2 messages when I start Paris. On a few occasions the 2/2 message
did not appear, but once Paris was started no audio would play back from
the project. Audio on Card A would show on the meters (channel, submix and
master); audio on Card B would show on the channel meters, but not in the
submix or master meters).

Is it possible that the EDS to EDS ribbon cables are at fault? They are homemade…
I’ve connected one 10 pin to the same 10 pin slot on the other card, and
the 16 pin ones are in an X. For all ribbon cables, the cable that would
be red (but isn’t as it’s homemade from an IDE cable and new ends) runs from
the left of the slot of one card to the left of the slot of the other card
(hope that makes sense!).

I’ve since tried swapping the cards around into the other ones PCI slot (no
joy). I’ve also tried disabling one EDS (only) at a time in Device Manager
and then launching Paris. I either get Error 2/2 (on one card) or Error 1/1
(on the other).

I may have to go back to ME! Although I’d like to run a system with more
Ram (1.5+ Gb) for plug-ins, and I believe ME can’t take advantage of this.


In the meantime, I may try removing the disabled Oasys cards and putting
the EDS cards in different PCI slots, testing one at a time with the MEC
to see if the work.

System:
1 MEC (8 in, 8 out, adapt); Windows XP Pro; Asus A7V880; 1 Gig ram; Athlon
3000 XP; Radeon VE dual-head agp graphics; Eds cards installed in PCI slots
2 and 3. Slot 4 has Korg Oasys (disabled). Other slots (including PCI slot
1) empty. I also have a 442 but this is not plugged into the system.

Many thanks in advance for any advice or suggestions.

DanielNo problem. Assuming I can get my presets to actually save from reboot to
reboot in XP, in about a week or so I'll e-mail Mike a ppj with the presets
in. There won't be any new ones, just a couple of reverb and comp settings
collected from the NG over the years.

Dan

"Ted Fay" <ted@8x.com> wrote:
>I'd be very interested.
>
>Thanks!
>
>-ted
>
>"db" <daniel_burneNOSPAM@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>news:42f734d7$1@linux...
>>
>> Spotted this
>> ( http://news.parisnewsgroup.com/cgi-bin/dnewsweb?cmd=article& amp;group=IDEA.EMUEnsoniqPARIS&item=127221&utag=
>> - about FX presets not saving when re-opening Paris on XP) on the Paris

>> newsgroup
>> from about 18 months ago. Now that I've migrated to XP I'm having the
same
>> problem, and was wondering if anyone (Manic?) found a way to solve it.
>>
>> Since I've now lost a bunch of my presets, I'm also keen to get hold of

>> some
>> new ones. It'd be great if you got any tasty ones to share - I know Mike
>> Audet has set up a sharing resource for Paris presents, and could forward
>> them on to him if you'd like. I've also collected the reverb presets from
>> the group over the years and could post them as a ppj if anyone's
>> interested.
>>
>>
>> Many thanks in advance for any assistance.
>>
>> Best wishes,
>>
>> Daniel
>
>Jason, whose playing with you? I'm up in Albany but will try to make a trip
down.

Ciao,
Rich
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