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Sat, 07 July 2007 09:58  |
DJ
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PCs I built over a year ago. Is it possible this is more
of
>an Intel issue than OSX vs. Windows? Or perhaps it really is just that
Macs
>are so much less prevalent, esp. in corporate networks, than PCs.
>
>10 years of PCs and never a virus, malware or spyware. And my current set
>of PCs don't have any virus protection at all, including the WinVista PC
>that grabs email all day. It doesn't take much to prevent this, and I've
>been using the same method on Macs and PCs, and life in general for years:
>
>PC/Mac:
>1 - don't open spam mail
>2 - only visit sites you trust (this isn't that difficult to do unless you
>are an internet "explorer" that clicks on anything and everything ;-)
>3 - don't click on popup ads
>
>I do recall viruses being an issue for Macs in the earlier days. Imho,
it's
>best to make direct comparisons - as soon as I get my hands on a Macintel
>and Nuendo 4 I plan to do plugin/loading tests to see which OS is really
>faster and more efficient for pro audio use, and price out the parts in
a
>Macintel to see how much the nice case and OSX really cost. I like some
>aspects of Macs, and am no fan of MS or Windows, but when push comes to
>shove, much of the propaganda against PCs is unfounded and ill-informed.
>The rest, MS deserves.
>
>Regards,
>Dedric
>
>On 8/13/07 12:01
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| Re: diet [message #87753 is a reply to message #87744] |
Sat, 07 July 2007 12:09  |
rick
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founded and ill-informed.
>>The rest, MS deserves.
>>
>>Regards,
>>Dedric
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>>On 8/13/07 12:01 AM, in article 46bff3a8$1@linux, "laMont"
>><jjdpro@gmail.com> wrote:
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>>>
>>> I don't know Thad..all it takes is a person going to wrong web
>>> site..boom..or
>>> if a client has an afected file in a session. last year one of our email
>>> servers(lotus domino-server 2003 got hit with the sasser and W32 ..
>>>
>>> MS has a mess on their hands..
>>>
>>>
>>> "TCB" <nobody@ishere.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Poppycock. I high volume XP and 2003 servers that have been running
>>>> stably,
>>>> without infection or even rebooting, for literally years. It's not even
>>> all
>>>> that difficult. If you don't want to take the time to learn enough to
> secure
>>>> and stabilize a Windows box then fine, pay what you want, but what
>>>> you're
>>>> paying for is your ignorance and unwillingness to learn, so you should
> call
>>>> it what it is.
>>>>
>>>> TCB
>>>>
>>>> P.S. As you might know, I run linux whenever I have the choice.
>>>>
>>>> "Steve Helm" <shelm@radford.edu> wrote:
>>>>>
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| Re: diet [message #87759 is a reply to message #87753] |
Sat, 07 July 2007 14:21 |
DJ
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y by a noticeable margin on the same hardware (even when run on
the
>>> same system as OSX via Bootcamp). He said even Logic ran better outside
>>> OSX, but I'm not sure how that comparison was made since Logic 5 (Win)
and
>>> Logic 7 (OSX) might not be comparable. If OSX was a standalone OS, I
would
>>> buy it to have both and compare, but the fastest processing, lowest
>>> bloat-factor OS would inevitably be the DAW system of choice for me.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Dedric
>>>
>>> On 8/9/07 8:23 PM, in article 46bbcc3f$1@linux, "lamont" <jjdpro@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> I agree..after we complete this cd project i'll be moving on to our
new
>> Mac
>>>> Pro(4 core) running Nuendo, PT and the new Apple Logic.
>>>>
>>>> I'm really burned out with XP and viruses..with getting on the
>>>> internet..sorry
>>>> but u like being able to go on the internet on my daw.
>>>>
>>>> I'll covert my current dual opteron daw into a dedicated vsti machine.
>>>>
>>>> LAD
>>>>
>>>> "Steve Helm" <shelm@radford.edu> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Yeah, but having the stability and security of OS-X is worth much more
>> than
>>>>> the difference in price between a PC and Mac.... especially in a pro
>>>>> environment.
>>>>>
>>>>> Steve
>>>>>
>>>>> Jeff Hoover <jkhoover@excite.com> wrote:
>>>>>> Jusr for fun, I priced out one of the new Dell Vostro laptops (small
>>>>>> business class)attempting to match the 15"macbook pro as best as
>>>>>> possible (proc, ram, and HD size and speed, screen res, etc.). No
extra
>>>>>
>>>>>> software or extended warranties.
>>>>>>
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| Re: diet [message #87766 is a reply to message #87744] |
Sat, 07 July 2007 16:58 |
Sarah
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e to learn enough to
>> secure
>>>>> and stabilize a Windows box then fine, pay what you want, but what
>>>>> you're
>>>>> paying for is your ignorance and unwillingness to learn, so you should
>> call
>>>>> it what it is.
>>>>>
>>>>> TCB
>>>>>
>>>>> P.S. As you might know, I run linux whenever I have the choice.
>>>>>
>>>>> "Steve Helm" <shelm@radford.edu> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Yeah, but having the stability and security of OS-X is worth much
>>>>>> more
>>>> than
>>>>>> the difference in price between a PC and Mac.... especially in a pro
>>>>>> environment.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Steve
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Jeff Hoover <jkhoover@excite.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> Jusr for fun, I priced out one of the new Dell Vostro laptops (small
>>>>>>> business class)attempting to match the 15"macbook pro as best as
>>>>>>> possible (proc, ram, and HD size and speed, screen res, etc.). No
>>>>>>> extra
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> software or extended warranties.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> THe verdict:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Dell Vostro 15" $1443
>>>>>>
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| Re: diet [message #87782 is a reply to message #87767] |
Sun, 08 July 2007 02:14 |
rick
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/>
TCB
"LaMont" <jjdpro@ameritech.net> wrote:
>
>That's the point. We have to install anit-spyware, anti virus ware. Peole
>should be able to surf without being attacked liek they are today.
>
>Porn sites or not. A user should not have to go thru such means.
>
>"TCB" <nobody@ishere.com> wrote:
>>
>>I'm not saying M$oft don't have problems with security, I'm saying it's
>a
>>fairly minor task to secure a Windows box. Get a firewall (or turn on the
>>M$oft one), install patches, update virus definitions. If it's a production
>>box (audio or email) then nobody should be using it to web surf anyway,
>and
>>if they do it should be using a VM.
>>
>>Now then, if someone wants to run cracks the download from the net and
surf
>>porn sites, well, not much can be done then, but it's _not_ rocket science
>>to run a Windows box.
>>
>>TCB
>>
>>"laMont " <jjdpro@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>I don't know Thad..all it takes is a person going to wrong web site..boom..or
>>>if a client has an afected file in a session. last year one of our email
>>>servers(lotus domino-server 2003 got hit with the sasser and W32 ..
>>>
>>>MS has a mess on their hands..
>>>
>>>
>>>"TCB" <nobody@ishere.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>Poppycock. I high volume XP and 2003 servers that have been running stably,
>>>>without infection or even rebooting, for literally years. It's not even
>>>all
>>>>that difficult. If you don't want to take the time to learn enough to
>secure
>>>>and stabilize a Windows box then fine, pay what you want, but what you're
>>>>paying for is your ignorance and unwillingness to learn, so you should
>>call
>>>>it what it is.
>>>>
>>>>TCB
>>>>
>>>>P.S. As you might know, I run linux whenever I have the choice.
>>>>
>>>>"Steve Helm" <shelm@radford.edu> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>Yeah, but having the stability and security of OS-X is worth much more
>>>than
>>>>>the difference in price between a PC and Mac.... especially in a pro
>environment.
>>>>>
>>>>>Steve
>>>>>
>>>>>Jeff Hoover <Report message to a moderator
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| Re: diet [message #87792 is a reply to message #87767] |
Sun, 08 July 2007 09:09 |
Bill L
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ugs since version4.7 came out? I
tried to render the fairchild today (been using them, Neve channel strip
etc, with no problem, but never had to render)and got a C++ visiual runtime
error. It happens right at the end of the render.
After that happened I rebooted, and tried again...same thing happened. Then
Paris got totally wonky. I re-ghosted back to a drive image with UAD 4.6
and all was well. I ran several tests and it was rock solid. I then uninstalled
4.6 and installed 4.7 again, opened up a fresh ppj, added audio file, put
a UAD plug on it and it played fine, then I tried to render and I got the
exact same runtime C++ error. Any one else seen this???
I already bought the Neve strip and the LA3A, maybe I can de-authorize them
if this new finally finally breaks Paris.
RodWell, these just arrived today
http://www.mercenary.com/ada7mopwiads.html
and I'll be setting them up soon. I did a lot of listening, though not as
much as I would have liked, and settled on those. It came down to the Focals
for a couple hundred more, but no sub, and these. I've usually avoided the
stereo + sub thing but as my music has become more and more bass oriented
I'd like to know a little more about what's going on below 80 Hz. They claim
to be only 3db down at 28 Hz, which is more than enough for a room like I
have.
The final thing that clinched it for me is the remote for the sub. I want
to be able to turn it off most of the time, and only have it there when I
want to check something on the low, low end. With the remote that's a lot
easier to do.
Anywho, after I've listened to them for a few weeks I'll let y'all know.
From NS10s to Mackie to NHT to KRK V8s to these. At the very least I should
understand a lot more about how monitors sound ;-)
TCBTCB wrote:
> Agreed. Know what else? I think I should get to bang Scarlet Johansson. But
> I don't worry much about that 'should' because it's not the way things are.
Clearly she only hangs out with people who use OSX. ;^)
Cheers,
-Jamie
www.JamieKrutz.com
>
> TCB
>
> "LaMont" <jjdpro@ameritech.net> wrote:
>> That's the point. We have to install anit-spyware, anti virus ware. Peole
>> should be able to surf without being attacked liek they are today.
>>
>> Porn sites or not. A user should not have to go thru such means.
>>
>> "TCB" <nobody@ishere.com> wrote:
>>> I'm not saying M$oft don't have problems with security, I'm saying it's
>> a
>>> fairly minor task to secure a Windows box. Get a firewall (or turn on the
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