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Mic question [message #83422] Thu, 19 April 2007 14:22 Go to next message
Jamie K is currently offline  Jamie K   UNITED STATES
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, Deej. You saved me from a painful time-waster. They list jerky
>> audio and CPU spikes on the UAD site with NFORCE 3 & 4 chips and dual core
>> AMD cpu.
>>
>> Such a sweet deal. Oh well. eBay here I come.
>>
>> Bill
>>
>> DJ wrote:
>>> It's the NForce4 chipset. NForce3 works great. NForce4 .not so. Chris
Re: Mic question [message #83427 is a reply to message #83422] Thu, 19 April 2007 19:09 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Neil is currently offline  Neil
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;>> Bill L
>
>HI Martin,
And probably a Nvidia chipset or Via chipset. The boards that have 3 rd
party chipset SATA , etc are the ones you normally need to check into to
make sure they will have vista driver.
Sense AsRock is ASUS it would make sense if they some form of Vista drivers.

Chris


Martin Harrington wrote:
> Don't know about that...I'm writing this to you on a 939 board,
> (ASROCK with AMD Athlon 64 3500+), and using Vista...have been for
> months.

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Chris Ludwig
ADK
chrisl@adkproaudio.com <mailto:chrisl@adkproaudio.com>
www.adkproaudio.com <http://www.adkproaudio.com/>
(859) 635-5762This board has VIA and is also using SATA, although the boot up takes many
minutes
--
Martin Harrington
www.lendanear-sound.com
"Chris Ludwig" <chrisl@adkproaudio.com> wrote in message
news:4647ad13@linux...
> HI Martin,
> And probably a Nvidia chipset or Via chipset. The boards that have 3 rd
> party chipset SATA , etc are the ones you normally need to check into to
> make sure they will have vista driver.
> Sense AsRock is ASUS it would make sense if they some form of Vista
> drivers.
>
> Chris
>
>
> Martin Harrington wrote:
>> Don't know about that...I'm writing this to you on a 939 board, (ASROCK
>> with AMD Athlon 64 3500+), and using Vista...have been for months.
>
> --
> Chris Ludwig
> ADK
> chrisl@adkproaudio.com <mailto:chrisl@adkproaudio.com>
> www.adkproaudio.com <http://www.adkproaudio.com/>
> (859) 635-5762HI DJ,
Yes the boards that have popular chip sets on them are lucky enough to
have Vista compatibility.
The only compatible board still being made yes. Not sure why any
motherboard maker would make new board based on chipset s that are EOL.
The newer sockets and chip sets coming out for AMD stuff will have no
backwards compatibility. UADs issues with those chip sets are nothing
they can really do anything about. These are design flaws in the chip
sets themselves. We tried ages ago when we first ran across the issue to
find ways to make it work. There are also overall PCI performance issues
on the Via chipset also. The Nforce 3 board works great with a single
but with dual cores it's unpredictable. The Nforce 4 was pretty much
useless over all for most any PCI audio device. NVidia strayed quite
abit away from the PCI-e spec with the Nforce 4 so they could improve
video/gaming performance. Of course this the vast majority of users and
the Nforce 4 is an excellent gamer chip set.
The Nforce 3 chipset over all was better but dual-core support was not
optimized in them. This the case with the Opteron motherboards like the
Tyan 2885. With single cores the board work fine but with dual cores all
kinds of weird stuff happens. The S2895 works better but like the S2885
it still has issues because of the AMD 8131 chipset used on hte PCI-x
bus. The 8131 chipset had a bunch of design flaws and timing and buss
sensitive devices like the UAD and even the TC power core especially the
MK1 would suffer from abnormal cpus loads and drop outs. The 8132
chipset used on the Super Micro boards and the New Nvidia chi sets used
on the F series work fine. The current Intel chip sets work fine but
like AMD they do have to rely on the motherboard manufacturers to
properly lay out a board and not cut corners.

Chris




DJ wrote:
> "DJ" <www.aarrrrggghhh!!!.com> wrote in message news:46475372@linux...
>
>> Chris..........the "only" fully compatible board? Wow!! that's pretty sad.
>>
>> Deej
>>
>>
>
>
> Asus A8V and Giga GA-K8NS 939 are fully compatible as well. Are you talking
> about mobos that are currently still being made? Shux, I'm so used to living
> in retroland, I don't t
Re: Mic question [message #83428 is a reply to message #83427] Thu, 19 April 2007 19:32 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Jamie K is currently offline  Jamie K   UNITED STATES
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hink much about buying something 2 years old...I
> guess that's sorta' sad as well. UA better get up off their collective
> hiney's PDQ and get something to market to address the situation.
>
> Deej
>
>
>

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ADK
chrisl@adkproaudio.com <mailto:chrisl@adkproaudio.com>
www.adkproaudio.com <http://www.adkproaudio.com/>
(859) 635-5762>and the New Nvidia chi sets used on the F series work fine.

This is the direction I'm headed..probably starting next week. I gotta have
some more horsepower soon. Still, I'm pretty darned happy with the
UAD-1/Magma route. A 13 slot Magma has 4 slots (#''s 1, 5, 7 & 11 on the
newer boards with the round cable and slots # 1, 5, 8 & 12 on the older ones
with the flat 80 pin ribbon cable) that will all share a single IRQ and if
inserted in a mobo PCI slot that doesn't share IRQ with the AGP (or whatever
other show stopper), they will function as a single PCI card on one
driver/IRQ. I'm using two of the newer model 13 slot Magmas with 4 x UAD-1
cards in one and 3 x RME HDSP cards in the other. It's the most rock solid
DAW I've ever built. I have also used a newer and older 13 slot Magma in
this same scenario and they worked great together. Hope the Tyan S2915 will
be the same. It won't be long until I start building this beast. I'm looking
for deals on Socket F Opteron 2220's (2.8GHz per core) right now. They are
quite a bit more than the 2218's (2.6GHz per core). A pair of 2218's can be
had these days for around $575.00, and it looks like prices are starting to
drop.



"Chris Ludwig" <chrisl@adkproaudio.com> wrote in message
news:4647b2c4$1@linux...
> HI DJ,
> Yes the boards that have popular chip sets on them are lucky enough to
> have Vista compatibility.
> The only compatible board still being made yes. Not sure why any
> motherboard maker would make new board based on chipset s that are EOL.
> The newer sockets and chip sets coming out for AMD stuff will have no
> backwards compatibility. UADs issues with those chip sets are nothing they
> can really do anything about. These are design flaws in the chip sets
> themselves. We tried ages ago when we first ran across the issue to find
> ways to make it work. There are also overall PCI performance issues on the
> Via chipset also. The Nforce 3 board works great with a single but with
> dual cores it's unpredictable. The Nforce 4 was pretty much useless over
> all for most any PCI audio device. NVidia strayed quite abit away from the
> PCI-e spec with the Nforce 4 so they could improve video/gaming
> performance. Of course this the vast majority of users and the Nforce 4 is
> an excellent gamer chip set.
> The Nforce 3 chipset over all was better but dual-core support was not
> optimized in them. This the case with the Opteron motherboards like the
> Tyan 2885. With single cores the board work fine but with dual cores all
> kinds of weird stuff happens. The S2895 works better but like the S2885 it
> still has issues because of the AMD 8131 chipset used on hte PCI-x bus.
> The 8131 chipset had a bunch of design flaws and timing and buss sensitive
> devices like the UAD and even the TC power core especially the MK1 would
> suffer from abnormal cpus loads and drop outs. The 8132 chipset used on
> the Super Micro boards and the New Nvidia chi sets used on the F series
> work fine. The current Intel chip sets work fine but like AMD they do have
> to rely on the motherboard manufacturers to properly lay out a board and
> not cut corners.
>
> Chris
>
>
>
>
> DJ wrote:
>> "DJ" <www.aarrrrggghhh!!!.com> wrote in message news:46475372@linux...
>>
>>> Chris..........the "only" fully compatible board? Wow!! that's pretty
>>> sad.
>>>
>>> Deej
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>> Asus A8V and Giga GA-K8NS 939 are fully compatible as well. Are you
>> talking about mobos that are currently still being made? Shux, I'm so
>> used to living in retroland, I don't think much about buying something 2
>> years old...I guess that's sorta' sad as well. UA better get up off their
>> collective hiney's PDQ and get something to market to address the
>> situation.
>>
>> Deej
>>
>>
>>
>
> --
> Chris Ludwig
> ADK
> chrisl@adkproaudio.com <mailto:chrisl@adkproaudio.com>
>
Re: Mic question [message #83431 is a reply to message #83428] Thu, 19 April 2007 20:51 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Neil is currently offline  Neil
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target="_blank">bill@billlorentzen.com>
wrote:

>Great job! But too few of us. Where is Sarah (as a nurse, please), Neil,
>TCB, DC, etc?
>

Yeah, I know - I keep trying.....

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------=_NextPart_000_0247_01C79614.B31B94B0--Have not been on here for awhile... getting caught up

You posted a song a while back and said you were shopping a CD for Distb.
What ever happened with that?? You did a great job on the song! http://money.cnn.com/magazines/fortune/fortune_archive/2007/ 05/28/100033867/index.htm?section=money_latest

TCB"TCB" <nobody@ishere.com> wrote in message news:46488bce$1@linux...
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> http://money.cnn.com/magazines/fortune/fortune_archive/2007/ 05/28/100033867/index.htm?section=money_latest
>
> TCB

See......I told you you were using pirated software, but did you
listen???.....NOOOOooooooooo!!! Now, that, if you'll just start sending me
that $100.00 licensing fee, I'll see that it gets to the *right people*.

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------=_NextPart_000_02A5_01C7961E.55E62580--heh yeah right !
I bought anothe dspfx card !
I have also found another two in my smalltown where I live !!!
That is so strange !!!
All over USA you cannot find it anywhere and I found two in my little town
which is around 50.000 people !!
That is fate...
Thanks DJ,
Do you think that micro atx will save me anything ?
Is it worth it ?
Regards,
Dimitrios

"DJ" <www.aarrrrggghhh!!!.com> wrote:
>Hehehe!...so you.liked the DSPFX card?
>
>That ASUS P2B LS mobo should be pretty cheap these days.
>
>DJ
>
>
>"Dimitrios" <musurgio@otenetNOSPAM.gr> wrote in message
>news:464867a1$1@linux...
>>
>> Hi,
>> I wanna build some small pc's with DSPFX isa audio cards as standalone

>> processors.
>> Can you suggest any motherboard PII or PIII that has ISA slots and also

>> can
>> you suggest a small pc case preferable horizontal that can go with it
?
>> What I wanna do is save space and make this look nice.
>> I wonder if there are any compact systems with monitor and case that looks
>> as an enclosed intergrated system !
>> Thanks
>> Dimitrios
>
>Hey Rich !
Thanks for your concern !
Well I don't know what to do to reach a good distributor.
Morgan has sent the song to BrianT but nothing has come as an answer yet...
Thanks again for your concern.
Regards,
Dimitrios


"Rich " <studiodog_99@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>Have not been on here for awhile... getting caught up
>
>You posted a song a while back and said you were shopping a CD for Distb.
> What ever happened with that?? You did a great job on the song!Is it on a complete CD? If so, put it on CDBaby, and opt to
have them place it on iTunes, Rhapsody, all that stuff... if
it's truly a hit, it'll get noticed & you'll be fielding
proposals. That'll cost you like 30 bucks.

Or you could try Taxi - that's all they do is shop stuff, but
that costs a couple hundred from what I hear.

Neil


"Dimitrios" <musurgio@otenet.gr> wrote:
>
>Hey Rich !
>Thanks for your concern !
>Well I don't know what to do to reach a good distributor.
>Morgan has sent the song to BrianT but nothing has come as an answer yet...
>Thanks again for your concern.
>Regards,
>Dimitrios
>
>
>"Rich " <studiodog_99@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>>Have not been on here for awhile... getting caught up
>>
>>You posted a song a while back and said you were shopping a CD for Distb.
>> What ever happened with that?? You did a great job on the song!
>Yikes scary stuff.


TCB wrote:
> http://money.cnn.com/magazines/fortune/fortune_archive/2007/ 05/28/100033867/index.htm?section=money_latest
>
> TCB

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chrisl@adkproaudio.com3 cheers for the Samp!!


Wireline wrote:
> slowly tiptoes waters...looking for sharks...
>
> Thanks for the invite, DJ
>
>
>
> "DJ" <www.aarrrrggghhh!!!.com> wrote:
>> He owns a studio in Midland TX and is good people. Never has used Paris,
> but
>> I think he's fit in here. We have a few Sam heads around here, don't
>> we?...Bill?.........who else???
>>
>>
>>
>

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Chris Ludwig

ADK Pro Audio
(859) 635-5762
www.adkproaudio.com
chrisl@adkproaudio.comWell....once Microsoft takes over the world, Steve Jobs will win the final
lawsuit that sues Microsoft for stealing OSX and then we'll all be totally
scooterfucked.

;oD

"
Re: Mic question [message #83526 is a reply to message #83513] Sat, 21 April 2007 09:05 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Gary Flanigan is currently offline  Gary Flanigan
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ng different. I
gave our recording guy my C16 and an adat feed from the Paris mix
buss. He sat there during the gig with headphones and one hand on the
C16.

Bingo. Waaayyyyyyyyyy better recording.

Realized afterwards I could also put a little plate on the auxes and
add some sweetening, which we will do next time.

So, it's time to rack up the MEC and the G4 (gonna throw in the 442
and IF-2 so I can get an extra 6 channels with one more EDS card) and
take this on the road.

If I actually make some money at this, the wife will be much more
amenable to toy purchases....

One question - two EDS cards, possibly 2 MEC's with 8in cards.

Aside from the EDS jumpers, can I g
Re: Mic question [message #83527 is a reply to message #83488] Sat, 21 April 2007 09:08 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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et by without clocking?

pabTrue,

I'm just kiddin around here. This one should be really interesting. Letter
of the law vs spirit of the free.

;o)

"Wireline" <wirelinestudio@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
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a href="mailto:1@linux..." target="_blank">1@linux...
> scooterfucked?
>
> Seems it really doesn't matter who invented what, its who hold the
> patents...
>
> If only I had bought Microsoft stock in 1985
> "DJ" <www.aarrrrggghhh!!!.com> wrote in message news:4648a873@linux...
>> Well....once Microsoft takes over the world, Steve Jobs will win the
>> final lawsuit that sues Microsoft for stealing OSX and then we'll all be
>> totally scooterfucked.
>>
>> ;oD
>>
>> "Chris Ludwig" <chrisl@adkproaudio.com> wrote in message
>> news:4648a305@linux...
>>> Yikes scary stuff.
>>>
>>>
>>> TCB wrote:
>>>> http://money.cnn.com/magazines/fortune/fortune_archive/2007/ 05/28/100033867/inde
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------=_NextPart_000_010F_01C79764.DB3584F0--Generally 240V stuff is rated at 220-250. Many Asian countries use 220, and
even within Australia there are areas that use 250V. Indeed some country
areas have 260V I think.

I'm still 95% sure the 442 doesn't require power, because i remember being
surprised when i discovered it didn't and thinking "That's a worry. That's
gonna suck a lot of juice out of my EDS"...

Could be wrong, but I'm pretty sure...

Cheers,
Kim.

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