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brandon[2]
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s that the rumor that apple has been
delayed because of Vista incompatibility, is untrue.
Like I say, I would never buy Apple upgrades or their monitors, because they
are just way too expensive. To be a little more fair, compare you MOBO prices
to Intel MOBO prices, because that is what Apple is using. They also have
the cost of their proprietary Apple ROM chips. The truth and the bottom
line is, Apple will never be able to compete with the roll your own PC pricing.
I think they will even have trouble competing with Dell at times on some
things. It's supply and demand.
James
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>"DJ" <www.aarrrrggghhh!!!.com> wrote in message news:460b4556@linux...
>> James,
>>
>> Has Apple implemented the *right click* feature in OSX so that a two
>> button (or more) mouse can be used? I should have checked this last time
I
>> was at the Mac store here. Surely they have by now.
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Deej
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>> "James McCloskey" <Report message to a moderator
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| Re: Its a done deal... [message #80225 is a reply to message #80219] |
Sat, 17 February 2007 16:54 |
Chris Ludwig
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x 1G 667MHZ ECC RAM sticks boggles the
>>mind)
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>>Total price from Apple was $4545.00 (without adding Applecare which I
>>would
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>>definitely want to do given some of the experiences I and others here have
>
>>had with Macs so we're looking at another $249.00 for a total of
>>$4794.00).
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>>I just spec'ed the same basic computer componentry for building a DIY PC
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>>from Newegg for $2659.90 and this would include Vista Ultimate. That's a
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>>difference of $2135.00. For less than this $2k difference added to the PC
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>>you could upgrade to dual quad XEON CPU's, more and faster memory that
>>would
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>>have the PC running circles around the Mac.
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>>I'm not trying to bash Macs here James (like I usually do ;o) I'm just
>>trying to see what the justification might be for paying almost twice the
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>>price for a Mac when I could build a faster PC in about a day..........a
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>>goodly part of which time could be spent doing other things while
>>formatting
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>>all of the drives and loading the OS.
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>>I'm sorry man. The priviledge of using the MacOS just isn't worth $2k +
> to
>>me so the Mac pricing still doesn't come close to anything I would want
> to
>>get involved with..................even if it can run Windows
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>>;o)
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>>Deej
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> I'd say sit tight, Apple has something up their sleeves. It may be AMD,
> who knows. One thing we now know, is that the rumor that apple has been
> delayed because of Vista incompatibility, is untrue.
>
> Like I say, I would never buy Apple upgrades or their monitors, because
> they
> are just way too expensive. To be a little more fair, compare you MOBO
> prices
> to Intel MOBO prices, because that is what Apple is using. They also have
> the cost of their proprietary Apple ROM chips. The truth and the bottom
> line is, Apple will never be able to compete with the roll your own PC
> pricing.
> I think they will even have trouble competing with Dell at times on some
> things. It's supply and demand.
>
> James
>
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>>"DJ" <www.aarrrrggghhh!!!.com> wrote in message news:460b45
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| Re: Its a done deal... [message #80226 is a reply to message #80225] |
Sat, 17 February 2007 18:10 |
brandon[2]
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56@linux...
>>> James,
>>>
>>> Has Apple implemented the *right click* feature in OSX so that a two
>>> button (or more) mouse can be used? I should have checked this last time
> I
>>> was at the Mac store here. Surely they have by now.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> Deej
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> "James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>> news:460b3fd0$1@linux...
>>>>
>>>> http://www.apple.com/macosx/bootcamp/
>>>
>>>
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>This could delay some Apple products.
http://apnews.excite.com/article/20070329/D8O5KCH01.htmlmake me proud honey.
On Wed, 28 Mar 2007 17:50:09 -0500, Paul Braun
<cygnus_nospam@ctgonline.org> wrote:
>On Wed, 28 Mar 2007 05:46:57 -0400, rick <parnell68@hotmail.com>
>wrote:
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>>i'd be happier if you were a girl but at my age (and 34 years of
>>marriage)...ewww...never mind.
>>
>whoa..... that's not a pretty thought.
>
>Package came to Valpo today - I'll run to the PO after work tomorrow
>and sign for it.
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>Thanks again.
>
>pab"Jamie K" <Meta@Dimensional.com> wrote in message news:460a8989$1@linux...
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> Layering a real violin or two on top of GPO (or any library) is a useful
> technique.
>
> Cheers,
> -Jamie
> www.JamieKrutz.com
That is a good technique. That's what we did on "God Is Asleep" . . . real
violin, flute, and oboe over sampled stuff. :)
SThanks everybody for the input. I think I'll go with the bundled GPO, at
least for the time being. Sounds nice and simple. :)
Love all y'all,
Sarah
"Chas. Duncan" <duncan5199ATsbcglobalDOTnet@> wrote in message
news:fgil035radunki1j40rn55bgqipft26omr@4ax.com...
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> I like Garritan, but I have humble needs. Hard to beat at the rather
> modest price, though... And it's playable -- you use the mod wheel on
> your controller to shape the attack on individual instruments -- makes
> it all a little more "human" (whatever that is...)...
>
> Best o' luck -- chas.
>
> On Tue, 27 Mar 2007 21:10:17 -0700, "Sarah&q
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| Re: Its a done deal... [message #80227 is a reply to message #80225] |
Sat, 17 February 2007 17:23 |
Edna Sloan
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uot; <sarahjane@sarahtonin.com>
> wrote:
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>> I'm going to upgrade my Sibelius (v.2 to v.4), and I'm thinking of
>>either getting their bundle discount on the Garritan Personal Orchestra,
>>or
>>spending a couple hundred more and upgrading my Gigastudio (v.2 to v.3).
>>It's just for my little composing/arranging station, so it doesn't need to
>>be CD quality sound. On the other hand, it's more fun if the sounds are
>>expressive and realistic.
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>> Is the Garritan Personal Orch decent sounding? The mp3 samples are
>> OK,
>>not amazing or anything, but they're demos are all concert hall reverbed
>>up,
>>so it's hard to tell.
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>> Ya think Gigastudio is overkill for a simple writing/arranging setup?
>>Is the learning curve gonna make me regret it? If it needs to be on a
>>computer by itself, I'm not interested . . . I don't want two computers in
>>here.
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>> Opinions? Experience? Inspirational quotes?
>>
>>Thanks,
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>>Sarah
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>if you use an pc mouse there are right click functions.
it should invalidate your warranty but they will say (this is what
they told me on my old g4) that once you install any soft or hardware
and if the computer fails to function properly (even though others do
with the same) it's your fault or the fault of the components or the
fault of the weather but not their machine.
the last place i would get ram from is apple. there's nothing special
about it other than they've tested it and it works. you can buy the
same ram from just about anywhere for 1/4 the cost.
On Thu, 29 Mar 2007 00:01:13 -0600, "DJ" <www.aarrrrggghhh!!!.com>
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>If you introduce components to the Mac that aren't factory installed, does
>this hose your Applecare?
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>thanks,
>
>Deej
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>"Jamie K" <Meta@Dimensional.com> wrote in message news:460b5645@linux...
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>> When I bought my happy dual G5 I bought the extra RAM and HD elsewhere.
>> Saved a few bucks.
>>
>> You may want to wait until April 16th to see what Apple is bringing out
>> for NAB. Might be 8 core time, and a price drop on the quads. Just a
>> guess.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> -Jamie
>> www.JamieKrutz.com
>>
>>
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>> DJ wrote:
>>> I was just spec'ing out one of these.Macs on Apple's website with dual
>>> 2.66GHz Xeon coreduo CPU's, two 500G backup HD's and 4G RAM. (how they
>>> can justify charging over $1k for 4 x 1G 667MHZ ECC RAM sticks boggles
>>> the mind)
>>>
>>> Total price from Apple was $4545.00 (without adding Applecare which I
>>> would definitely want to
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| Re: Its a done deal... [message #80244 is a reply to message #80233] |
Sun, 18 February 2007 06:31 |
Edna Sloan
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be used? I should have checked this last
time
>>>>> I was at the Mac store here. Surely they have by now.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>
>>>>> Deej
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>> news:460b3fd0$1@linux...
>>>>>> http://www.apple.com/macosx/bootcamp/
>>>>>
>>>>
>Yes, the DA7.com forum. I own a DA7 MkII. It is digital desk that when it
came out a few years back, it listed for $15,550.00.Some poor soul who didn't
pay his pawn ticket in Texas is probably a little upset to loose the desk
for $700.00 I inserted it quickly into my 10 ft console. Another cool thing
that has happened to the studio. You know the 10 foot Argosy cosole (with
no equipment in it)? Goes for I am guessing between 5-$700.00, My dad is
a cabinet maker and built it for me as a gift, but with a 9 inch X 9 inch
elbow resting pad. Great for sittig the guitar pods and such on.(n' music
scores n' such) Cooler yet, he built it so the partitians between mixer bays
are movable. It is extreamly flexable. So when I got the DA7. I put the Mackie
8 buss on the left side, it's 24 ch expander board on the right, and plopped
the DA7 right in the sweet spot... the middle.
"Neil" <IOUOIU@OIU.com> wrote:
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>"Steve Cox" <stevec1@charter.net> wrote:
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>>I found one on another forum I belong to. Thanks'
>
>What? You belong to another forum? And here we thought we had
>you exclusively???
>
>Oh the betrayal!Mannnn... Where do I start??? One of my biggest challenges has always been
having spikey looking wave files, and of course the L & R will look and sound
the same.The ONLY thing I like about the Mighty Mouse is the scoll ball. If it
didn't have that, it would "fly" to the trash....
David.
James McCloskey wrote:
> "DJ" <www.aarrrrggghhh!!!.com> wrote:
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>>James,
>>
>>Has Apple implemented the *right click* feature in OSX so that a two button
>
>
>>(or more) mouse can be used? I should have checked this last time I was
>
> at
>
>>the Mac store here. Surely they have by now.
>>
>>Thanks,
>>
>>Deej
>>
>>
>>
>
>
> About a hundred years ago; ) And they even have contextual menus.
>
> The newer Apple mighty mouse doesn't look like it has multi buttons, but
> it works like it does, and it has a trackball/scroll ball on top. Give it
> a try next time you get a chance. I've been using a Kensinton Expert mouse
> pro (Track Ball), a Macally optical track ball, a top of the line Microsoft
> wireless optical mouse, and many others. As long as it's USB it will work,
> scroll wheels the works. Some times special function buttons won't work
> with out it's unique special driver. most any thing you plugin will work
> though. Your Windows PC keyboards will work also.
>
> Fyi, even back in the ADB (serial) port days multi button mice worked. Apple
> was funny about keeping the simplicity with a one button mouse for beginners.
> There are a lot of products Apple doesn't make because they want to keep
> encouraging third parties to keep developing for the Mac. So they let them
> go and don't step on their toes.
>
> Not eve Mac user could figure out why Apple hung on sooooooooo long to the
> one button!
>
> James
>
>
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>>"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>news:460b3fd0$1@linux...
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>>>http://www.apple.com/macosx/bootcamp/
>>
>>
>Is anybody using Microsoft Remote desktop for Mac? Just wondering how well
it works. I'm thinking about ditching one of my KMV switches. I guess my
biggest concern is, having my XP boxes with file sharing on, connected to
the router that is connected to the internet.
If you don't know what this is, here is a link:
http://www.microsoft.com/mac/otherproducts/otherproducts.asp x?pid=remotedesktopclient
JamesHey steve! Can you post some pictures of your furniture. You know I'm also
a DA-7 MKII owner.
Thanks
James
"Steve Cox" <stevec1@charter.net> wrote:
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>Yes, the DA7.com forum. I own a DA7 MkII. It is digital desk that when it
>came out a few years back, it listed for $15,550.00.Some poor soul who didn't
>pay his pawn ticket in Texas is probably a little upset to loose the desk
>for $700.00 I inserted it quickly into my 10 ft console. Another cool thing
>that has happened to the studio. You know the 10 foot Argosy cosole (with
>no equipment in it)? Goes for I am guessing between 5-$700.00, My dad is
>a cabinet maker and built it for me as a gift, but with a 9 inch X 9 inch
>elbow resting pad. Grea
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Sun, 18 February 2007 07:49 |
brandon[2]
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m" target="_blank">chrisl@adkproaudio.comHey I gotta get into da 90's ain't so? ya tink? I don'y even know how to post
pics. But if I did, I would.
"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
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>Hey steve! Can you post some pictures of your furniture. You know I'm
also
>a DA-7 MKII owner.
>
>Thanks
>James
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>"Steve Cox" <stevec1@charter.net> wrote:
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>>Yes, the DA7.com forum. I own a DA7 MkII. It is digital desk that when
it
>>came out a few years back, it listed for $15,550.00.Some poor soul who
didn't
>>pay his pawn ticket in Texas is probably a little upset to loose the desk
>>for $700.00 I inserted it quickly into my 10 ft console. Another cool thing
>>that has happened to the studio. You know the 10 foot Argosy cosole (with
>>no equipment in it)? Goes for I am guessing between 5-$700.00, My dad is
>>a cabinet maker and built it for me as a gift, but with a 9 inch X 9 inch
>>elbow resting pad. Great for sittig the guitar pods and such on.(n' music
>>scores n' such) Cooler yet, he built it so the partitians between mixer
>bays
>>are movable. It is extreamly flexable. So when I got the DA7. I put the
>Mackie
>>8 buss on the left side, it's 24 ch expander board on the right, and plopped
>>the DA7 right in the sweet spot... the middle.
>>
>>"Neil" <IOUOIU@OIU.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>"Steve Cox" <stevec1@charter.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>I found one on another forum I belong to. Thanks'
>>>
>>>What? You belong to another forum? And here we thought we had
>>>you exclusively???
>>>
>>>Oh the betrayal!
>>
>DJ, any tips??
"DJ" <www.aarrrrggghhh!!!.com> wrote:
>awwww.....c'mon.......thos big fat squarewave lookin' catepillars can't
be
>all bad. Just look at any master that has been done in the last 6 years
or
>so (just don't listen too close or too long).
>
>;o)
>
>"Don Nafe" <dnafe@magma.ca> wrote in message news:460bdefb@linux...
>> Spikes are your friend...solid blocks are the devil's work
>>
>> YMMV
>>
>>
>> "Steve Cox" <stevec1@charter.net> wrote in message
>> news:460bd961$1@linux...
>>>
>>> Mannnn... Where do I start??? One of my biggest challenges has always
>>> been
>>> having spikey looking wave files, and of course the L & R will look and
>>> sound
>>> the same.
>>
>>
>
>http://home.pages.at/pullrich/mousecon.htmSo, me and the other sorta audio guy in the Monkies decided to mix up a couple
of our demos to get a feel for who might mix what and how. I did a song that
I though
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| Re: Its a done deal... [message #80247 is a reply to message #80246] |
Sun, 18 February 2007 07:31 |
Chris Ludwig
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t sounded really pretty rough, definitely no better than demo quality,
and I didn't even use any of the (very good) creamware reverbs because I
didn't want to hassle with the routing and all. So I send it over kind of
feeling bad because it really needs a few more sessions to buff it up but
at least it's giving some kind of window into what I can do sonics wise in
my mixing room.
So, today I get a sheepish email from the other two main Monkies explaining
that it was just 'too polished' for their taste.
Guess I won't be mixing any Monkies tunes ;-)
TCBI'd suggest VNC personally, it's what we usually use where I work. I just
don't trust M$oft to deal with the security right.
Also, it's free as in beer and speech,
TCB
"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
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>Is anybody using Microsoft Remote desktop for Mac? Just wondering how well
>it works. I'm thinking about ditching one of my KMV switches. I guess
my
>biggest concern is, having my XP boxes with file sharing on, connected to
>the router that is connected to the internet.
>
>If you don't know what this is, here is a link:
> http://www.microsoft.com/mac/otherproducts/otherproducts.asp x?pid=remotedesktopclient
>
>JamesThey must be used to the latest Neil Young live album that had to be mixed
on an answering machine.What are you looking for, fidelity and dynamic range or loudness? You will
sacrifice one for the other in the end. However, if your program material
tends to lend itself to midrangey'ness (and what program material doesn't?)
and you've gotta' have *loud*, then RMS normalization or judicious limiting
with as transparent a limiter as possible is where you're going to need to
go eventually. This is in the realm of the mastering guys. I'd suggest
pinging DC or Sakis on this. They've got a better handle on it than I do.
The way I do it here involves meticulous attention to getting as much
balance as I possibly can in the mix so that when I apply the limiter don't
have to EQ my two track until it gets *really* loud, then compensating for
the loss of top end by using as much subtractive EQ as possible (or a
multiband comp) to bring it back into line (which doesn't always work) and
then, once I get my *air* back into the mix, applying another limiter at the
end of the chain to catch any overs that might be happening because the
subtractive EQ, etc., didn't give me what I need and I had to boost some
things to get the top back, then adjusting the EQ and limiting yet again
because the limiter that I put at the end of the chain started *messin' with
the top* that I was able to create with the EQ/multiband, etc . After a
while, I can usually end up with a stereo master that sounds enough like my
mix, but *MUCH LOUDER that I'm happy with it because it will jump out of the
speakers and stand up on it's hind legs and bark with the other dogs, but
kind of loudness fatigues my ears after a while (but all masters seem to do
this to me these days though) this is probably why I'm not a mastering
engineer and someone else is. Also, I have to take into account (and
convince the client) that he may not want this master to be quite as loud as
he thinks because if it ever gets airplay, there will be more
compression/limiting done at broadcast time and it's liable to just sound
like a dronetone if we squeeze it to death before it gets to that stage.
I much prefer to work with clients who don't mind turning up the volume on
their stereo to achieve loud.........but that just ain't *radio ready* these
days.
;o)
"Steve Cox" <stevec1@charter.net> wrote in message news:460befec@linux...
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> DJ, any tips??
>
> "DJ" <www.aarrrrggghhh!!!.com> wrote:
>>awwww.....c'mon.......thos big fat squarewave lookin' catepillars can't
> be
>>all bad. Just look at any master that has been done in the last 6 years
> or
>>so (just don't listen too close or too long).
>>
>>;o)
>>
>>"Don Nafe" <dnafe@magma.ca> wrote in message news:460bdefb@linux...
>>> Spikes are your friend...solid blocks are the devil's work
>>>
>>> YMMV
>>>
>>>
>>> "Steve Cox" <stevec1@charter.net> wrote in message
>>> news:460bd961$1@linux...
>>>>
>>>> Mannnn... Where do I start??? One of my biggest challenges has always
>
>>>> been
>>>> having spikey
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| Re: Its a done deal... [message #80248 is a reply to message #80247] |
Sun, 18 February 2007 08:52 |
brandon[2]
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looking wave files, and of course the L & R will look and
>
>>>> sound
>>>> the same.
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>LOL!!!.........hey man, be careful. You wouldn't want to lose your client
base by actually mixing something well.
;O)
"TCB" <nobody@ishere.com> wrote in message news:460bf4a9$1@linux...
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> So, me and the other sorta audio guy in the Monkies decided to mix up a
> couple
> of our demos to get a feel for who might mix what and how. I did a song
> that
> I thought sounded really pretty rough, definitely no better than demo
> quality,
> and I didn't even use any of the (very good) creamware reverbs because I
> didn't want to hassle with the routing and all. So I send it over kind of
> feeling bad because it really needs a few more sessions to buff it up but
> at least it's giving some kind of window into what I can do sonics wise in
> my mixing room.
>
> So, today I get a sheepish email from the other two main Monkies
> explaining
> that it was just 'too polished' for their taste.
>
> Guess I won't be mixing any Monkies tunes ;-)
>
> TCB"TCB" <nobody@ishere.com> wrote:
>
>I'd suggest VNC personally, it's what we usually use where I work. I just
>don't trust M$oft to deal with the security right.
>
>Also, it's free as in beer and speech,
>
>TCB
Which VNC? I've seen RealVNC, and about 20 others.
Thanks
James
>
>"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>Is anybody using Microsoft Remote desktop for Mac? Just wondering how
well
>>it works. I'm thinking about ditching one of my KMV switches. I guess
>my
>>biggest concern is, having my XP boxes with file sharing on, connected
to
>>the router that is connected to the internet.
>>
>>If you don't know what this is, here is a link:
>> http://www.microsoft.com/mac/otherproducts/otherproducts.asp x?pid=remotedesktopclient
>>
>>James
>Just for fun, you should do the best and worst mix of a song and play it for
them in person, and see what they say. Then you'll know their crazy.
"TCB" <nobody@ishere.com> wrote:
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>So, me and the other sorta audio guy in the Monkies decided to mix up a
couple
>of our demos to get a feel for who might mix what and how. I did a song
that
>I thought sounded really pretty rough, definitely no better than demo quality,
>and I didn't even use any of the (very good) creamware reverbs because I
>didn't want to hassle with the routing and all. So I send it over kind of
>feeling bad because it really needs a few more sessions to buff it up but
>at least it's giving some kind of window into what I can do sonics wise
in
>my mixing room.
>
>So, today I get a sheepish email from the other two main Monkies explaining
>that it was just 'too polished' for their taste.
>
>Guess I won't be mixing any Monkies tunes ;-)
>
>TCBRealVNC is the easiest to use but has less features. TightVNC has better encryption/security
but can be trickier to set up. I use Tight.
http://sourceforge.net/projects/vnc-tight/
TCB
"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
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>"TCB" <nobody@ishere.com> wrote:
>>
>>I'd suggest VNC personally, it's what we usually use where I work. I just
>>don't trust M$oft to deal with the security right.
>>
>>Also, it's free as in beer and speech,
>>
>>TCB
>
>Which VNC? I've seen RealVNC, and about 20 others.
>
>Thanks
>James
>>
>>"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>Is anybody using Microsoft Remote desktop for Mac? Just wondering how
>well
>>>it works. I'm thinking about ditching one of my KMV switches. I guess
>>my
>>>biggest concern is, having my XP boxes with file sharing on, connected
>to
>>>the router that is connected to the internet.
>>>
>>>If you don't know what this is, here is a link:
>>> http://www.microsoft.com/mac/otherproducts/otherproducts.asp x?pid=remotedesktopclient
>>>
>>>James
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>"TCB" <nobody@ishere.com> wrote:
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>RealVNC is the easiest to use but has less features. TightVNC has better
encryption/security
>but can be trickier to set up. I use Tight.
>
>http://sourceforge.net/projects/vnc-tight/
>
>TCB
Thanks Thad!
James
>
>"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
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>>"TCB" <nobody@ishere.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>I'd suggest VNC personally, it's what we usually use where I work. I just
>>>don't trust M$oft to deal with the security right.
>>>
>>>Also, it's free as in beer and speech,
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>>>
>>>TCB
>>
>>Which VNC? I've seen RealVNC, and about 20 others.
>>
>>Thanks
>>James
>>>
>>>"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>Is anybody using Microsoft Remote desktop for Mac? Just wondering how
>>well
>>>>it works. I'm thinking about ditching one of my KMV switches. I guess
>>>my
>>>>biggest concern is, having my XP boxes with file sharing on, connected
>>to
>>>>the router that is connected to the internet.
>>>>
>>>>If you don't know what this is, here is a link:
>>>> http://www.microsoft.com/mac/otherproducts/otherproducts.asp x?pid=remotedesktopclient
>>>>
>>>>James
>>>
>>
>This isn't a client, this is the band I'm in! Yeah, it's pretty funny. I'm
probably going to mix all of the songs anyway, just for me to have them the
way I'd like. Then when we're all dead and some 19 year old covers a Monkie
tune my alternate mixes will be rediscovered as great lost masterpieces ;-)
TCB
"DJ" <www.aarrrrggghhh!!!.com> wrote:
>LOL!!!.........hey man, be careful. You wouldn't want to lose your client
>base by actually mixing something well.
>
>;O)
>
>"TCB" <nobody@ishere.com> wrote in message news:460bf4a9$1@linux...
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>> So, me and the other sorta audio guy in the Monkies decided to mix up
a
>> couple
>> of our demos to get a feel for who might mix what and how. I did a song
>> that
>> I thought sounded really pretty rough, definitely no better than demo
>> quality,
>> and I didn't even use any of the (very good) creamware reverbs because
I
>> didn't want to hassle with the routing and all. So I send it over kind
of
>> feeling bad because it really needs a few more sessions to buff it up
but
>> at least it's giving some kind of window into what I can do sonics wise
in
>> my mixing room.
>>
>> So, today I get a sheepish email from the other two main Monkies
>> explaining
>> that it was just 'too polished' for their taste.
>>
>> Guess I won't be mixing any Monkies tunes ;-)
>>
>> TCB
>
>after 8 months i and the dealer were dealing with the higher ups. it
was they who told me the news. remember i had the logic board, cpu
and boot drive replaced twice by them. rather than admit the ff800
made only for one month prior to the g5 just didn't work right until
10.3.7 came out.
as to configuration support...i guess that would be logic and the
ensemble...and fuck the rest of the world.
i guess i'd have to see the special engineering they have as any bench
marking we've done with both apple and non apple ram show no
difference other than price.
On 30 Mar 2007 01:02:01 +1000, "James McCloskey"
<excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>rick <parnell68@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>if you use an pc mouse there are right click functions.
>>
>>it should invalidate your warranty but they will say (this is what
>>they told me on my old g4) that once you install any soft or hardware
>>and if the computer fails to function properly (even though others do
>>with the same) it's your fault or the fault of the components or the
>>fault of the weather but not their machine.
>
>Nobody else does this in the industry, only Apple.
>
>If you talk to some body higher up you can sometimes get stuff done. there
>first line of support will some times tell you stupid stuff like just reinstall
>your operating system. If you listen who's fault is that? Some of those
>people are right out of training. You got to go higher!
>
>Apple needs to fix stuff like that. Although, no company can or will support
>every configuration.
>
>>
>>the last place i would get ram from is apple. there's nothing special
>>about it other than they've tested it and it works. you can buy the
>>same ram from just about anywhere for 1/4 the cost.
>>
>
>YES! Apple RAM is over priced, don't buy it, ever! However, the RAM in
>the MacPro tower was specially engineered to work in that machine. Like
>I said, it has heat sinks on the memory. That is how they got so much RAM
>in the MacPro, and as close together as it is. As I know it, if you put
>regular ram in those machines, you will kill the MOBO with in a couple of
>years.
>
>>
>>On Thu, 29 Mar 2007 00:01:13 -0600, "DJ" <www.aarrrrggghhh!!!.com>
>>wrote:
>>
>>>If you introduce components to the Mac that aren't factory installed, does
>
>>>this hose your Applecare?
>>>
>>>thanks,
>>>
>>>Deej
>>>
>>>"Jamie K" <Meta@Dimensional.com> wrote in message news:460b5645@linux...
>>>>
>>>> When I bought my happy dual G5 I bought the extra RAM and HD elsewhere.
>
>>>> Saved a few bucks.
>>>>
>>>> You may want to wait until April 16th to see what Apple is bringing out
>
>>>> for NAB. Might be 8 core time, and a price drop on the quads. Just a
>
>>>> guess.
>>>>
>>>> Cheers,
>>>> -Jamie
>>>> www.JamieKrutz.com
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> DJ wrote:
>>>>> I was just spec'ing out one of these.Macs on Apple's website with dual
>
>>>>> 2.66GHz Xeon coreduo CPU's, two 500G backup HD's and 4G RAM. (how they
>
>>>>> can justify charging over $1k for 4 x 1G 667MHZ ECC RAM sticks boggles
>
>>>>> the mind)
>>>>>
>>>>> Total price from Apple was $4545.00 (without adding Applecare which
>I
>>>>> would definitely want to do given some of the experiences I and others
>
>>>>> here have had with Macs so we're looking at another $249.00 for a total
>
>>>>> of $4794.00).
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| Re: Its a done deal... [message #80253 is a reply to message #80249] |
Sun, 18 February 2007 09:39 |
Chris Ludwig
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at you were trading to me, and for which of my
stuff we were trading for, I'm open to working the cash portion
(if any is needed) in either direction.
e-me at: neil DOT henderson AT sbcglobal DOT net
NeilHey Neil
what is the sync plate?
"Neil" <IOUOIU@OIU.com> wrote in message news:460c64e4$1@linux...
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> (also posted to the "For Sale" group)
>
> OK, here's what I've got left:
>
> * Groove Tubes GT66 LDC Tube mic $350.
>
> * B.L.U.E. Blueberry w/wood box & B.L.U.E. shockmount/windscreen
> $700.
>
> Both in minty-fresh condition.. pics here:
> http://www.saqqararecords.com/html/4sale.htm
>
> Stuff that's not really something you'd need to see a pic of:
>
> * Creamware/Scope Pulsar Project Card & SyncPlate $750.
> This is like basically getting a brand-new Project card (used
> less than a handful of tims) for $50 off street price, and
> getting a sync plate thrown in for free. The Project Card has
> 6 SHARC DSP chips, and this version is one with the "puls" i/o options -
> balanced analog i/o's, 2 lightpipe in's, 2 lightpipe
> outs, and MIDI in/out/thru. For those of you who haven't seen
> these, it's pretty close to the size of an EDS card. You can
> get more details here:
> http://www.infinitevortex.com/creamware/scope-cards/project/
>
>
> * MOTU Symphonic Instrument. VSTi, sounds nice & clean, well-
> recorded samples it seems - it's just not my cup o' tea. Has a
> built-in convo reverb! License is via iLok (included). $200.
> Info link & demo clips here:
> http://www.motu.com/products/software/msi
>
> Paris gear-wise, I would consider a trade or partial trade for
> an 8-in module and/or an ADAT card.
>
> Other-gear-wise, I could use a superclean/superfast preamp like
> a Massenburg, or something of that ilk. Could use something
> interesting in the way of compressors.
>
> Depending on what you were trading to me, and for which of my
> stuff we were trading for, I'm open to working the cash portion
> (if any is needed) in either direction.
>
> e-me at: neil DOT henderson AT sbcglobal DOT net
>
>
> NeilThe SyncPlate is a word-clockable device that has BNC insies &
outsies, and has a cable that attaches to a plug assembly on
the DSP card. It enables you to slave the pulsar card to
external devices, or have it act as a master clock for external
devices. It fits in a PCI slot for the purposes of mounting it,
but has no actual PCI bus connections. They're normally about
$200 street price.
"Don Nafe" <dnafe@magma.ca> wrote:
>Hey Neil
>
>what is the sync plate?
>
>
>"Neil" <IOUOIU@OIU.com> wrote in message news:460c64e4$1@linux...
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>> (also posted to the "For Sale" group)
>>
>> OK, here's what I've got left:
>>
>> * Groove Tubes GT66 LDC Tube mic $350.
>>
>> * B.L.U.E. Blueberry w/wood box & B.L.U.E. shockmount/windscreen
>> $700.
>>
>> Both in minty-fresh condition.. pics here:
>> http://www.saqqararecords.com/html/4sale.htm
>>
>> Stuff that's not really something you'd need to see a pic of:
>>
>> * Creamware/Scope Pulsar Project Card & SyncPlate $750.
>> This is like basically getting a brand-new Project card (used
>> less than a handful of tims) for $50 off street price, and
>> getting a sync plate thrown in for free. The Project Card has
>> 6 SHARC DSP chips, and this version is one with the "puls" i/o options
-
>> balanced analog i/o's, 2 lightpipe in's, 2 lightpipe
>> outs, and MIDI in/out/thru. For those of you who haven't seen
>> these, it's pretty close to the size of an EDS card. You can
>> get more details here:
>> http://www.infinitevortex.com/creamware/scope-cards/project/
>>
>>
>> * MOTU Symphonic Instrument. VSTi, sounds nice & clean, well-
>> recorded samples it seems - it's just not my cup o' tea. Has a
>> built-in convo reverb! License is via iLok (included). $200.
>> Info link & demo clips here:
>> http://www.motu.com/products/software/msi
>>
>> Paris gear-wise, I would consider a trade or partial trade for
>> an 8-in module and/or an ADAT card.
>>
>> Other-gear-wise, I could use a superclean/superfast preamp like
>> a Massenburg, or something of that ilk. Could use something
>> interesting in the way of compressors.
>>
>> Depending on what you were trading to me, and for which of my
>> stuff we were trading for, I'm open to working the cash portion
>> (if any is needed) in either direction.
>>
>> e-me at: neil DOT henderson AT sbcglobal DOT net
>>
>>
>> Neil
>
>Sluttin' around behind our backs eh?
;o)
"Neil" <IOUOIU@OIU.com> wrote in message news:460bbcb5$1@linux...
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> "Steve Cox" <stevec1@charter.net> wrote:
>>
>>I found one on another forum I belong to. Thanks'
>
> What? You belong to another forum? And here we thought we had
> you exclusively???
>
> Oh the betrayal!I sat in on a demo of that board by Craig Anderton down in Austin a few
years back. Very nice board. Does this board hqave Cubase mapping?
"Steve Cox" <stevec1@charter.net> wrote in message news:460bd7a0$1@linux...
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> Yes, the DA7.com forum. I own a DA7 MkII. It is digital desk that when it
> came out a few years back, it listed for $15,550.00.Some poor soul who
> didn't
> pay his pawn ticket in Texas is probably a little upset to loose the desk
> for $700.00 I inserted it quickly into my 10 ft console. Another cool
> thing
> that has happened to the studio. You know the 10 foot Argosy cosole (with
> no equipment in it)? Goes for I am guessing between 5-$700.00, My dad is
> a cabinet maker and built it for me as a gift, but with a 9 inch X 9 inch
> elbow resting pad. Great for sittig the guitar pods and such on.(n' music
> scores n' such) Cooler yet, he built it so the partitians between mixer
> bays
> are movable. It is extreamly flexable. So when I got the DA7. I put the
> Mackie
> 8 buss on the left side, it's 24 ch expander board on the right, and
> plopped
> the DA7 right in the sweet spot... the middle.
>
> "Neil" <IOUOIU@OIU.com> wrote:
>>
>>"Steve Cox" <stevec1@charter.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>I found one on another forum I belong to. Thanks'
>>
>>What? You belong to another forum? And here we thought we had
>>you exclusively???
>>
>>Oh the betrayal!
>DJ, I don't know how to tell. I am not familiar with such. How does one find
out?
"DJ" <www.aarrrrggghhh!!!.com> wrote:
>I sat in on a demo of that board by Craig Anderton down in Austin a few
>years back. Very nice board. Does this board hqave Cubase mapping?
>
>"Steve Cox" <stevec1@charter.net> wrote in message news:460bd7a0$1@linux...
>>
>> Yes, the DA7.com forum. I own a DA7 MkII. It is digital desk that when
it
>> came out a few years back, it listed for $15,550.00.Some poor soul who
>> didn't
>> pay his pawn ticket in Texas is probably a little upset to loose the desk
>> for $700.00 I inserted it quickly into my 10 ft console. Another cool
>> thing
>> that has happened to the studio. You know the 10 foot Argosy cosole (with
>> no equipment in it)? Goes for I am guessing between 5-$700.00, My dad
is
>> a cabinet maker and built it for me as a gift, but with a 9 inch X 9 inch
>> elbow resting pad. Great for sittig the guitar pods and such on.(n' music
>> scores n' such) Cooler yet, he built it so the partitians between mixer
>> bays
>> are movable. It is extreamly flexable. So when I got the DA7. I put the
>> Mackie
>> 8 buss on the left side, it's 24 ch expander board on the right, and
>> plopped
>> the DA7 right in the sweet spot... the middle.
>>
>> "Neil" <IOUOIU@OIU.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>"Steve Cox" <stevec1@charter.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>I found one on another forum I belong to. Thanks'
>>>
>>>What? You belong to another forum? And here we thought we had
>>>you exclusively???
>>>
>>>Oh the betrayal!
>>
>
>You plug it into Cubase & try to see if you can get it to run
any of the controls therein. Normally this is done through
various MIDI ports & settings.
Deej - is it on the list of Controls surfaces/devices when you
pull down that submenu? (too lazy to boot the DAW & check for
myself right now LOL!)
Neil
"Steve Cox" <stevec1@charter.net> wrote:
>
>DJ, I don't know how to tell. I am not familiar with such. How does one
find
>out?
>
>"DJ" <www.aarrrrggghhh!!!.com> wrote:
>>I sat in on a demo of that board by Craig Anderton down in Austin a few
>
>>years back. Very nice board. Does this board hqave Cubase mapping?
>>
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---=_linux460c7d42--On 30 Mar 2007 03:37:25 +1000, "James McCloskey"
<excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>"TCB" <nobody@ishere.com> wrote:
>>
>>I'd suggest VNC personally, it's what we usually use where I work. I just
>>don't trust M$oft to deal with the security right.
>>
>>Also, it's free as in beer and speech,
>>
>>TCB
>
>Which VNC? I've seen RealVNC, and about 20 others.
>
RealVNC has some security issues.
OSX has a vnc server built in.
On the client side:
For Windoze machines, I use TightVNC client
For my MacBook Pro, I use Chicken of the VNC
Both work very well.
If you're vnc'ing in from windows into Mac, you'll have to remember
that the keyboards are different and use the "alt" key instead of the
squiggle key and remember that "backspace = delete". Once you map
your brain for the differences, works like a champ. I have my
Quicksilver on 24/7, with a static IP address, and my router set up
for port forwarding. I picked a ridiculously high, random port
instead of the default 5300 to thwart port scanners. I also registered
a DDNS domain with dyndns.com pointed to my DSL address (it's pretty
stable, plus my router can sense changes and will notify dyndns.com)
I can vnc in and check my email and IM from any computer that will
allow me to run an executable.
Oh, yeah - TightVNC (Also UltraVNC) viewer is a standalone executable.
Nice.
pabDoug Wellington is kind enough to host this for us...
http://homepage.mac.com/osxlover/ParisFAQs/CS16RepairEnc.htm l
AA
"Paul Braun" <cygnus_nospam@ctgonline.org> wrote in message
news:t2uo035dlksiaatdo9m948dqjtu7bl6ope@4ax.com...
> Today was a bonus day. Got the loaner 8in from Brother Rick, got the
> bundle of stuff I won from ebay. So, I'm completely covered for the
> Peterik concert on the 15th.
>
> However, when I unboxed the bundle of stuff, I noticed that while the
> MEC looks good, and the 8in card was still installed, so it's safe,
> the Bandwidth knob on the 16 is flopping around. I assume the pot
> broke loose off the pcb.
>
> How much of a bitch is it to open one of these things, possibly solder
> in a new pot, and then get all the fiddly bits to go back in place?
>
> I suppose I could just relegate that controller to the mobile
> recording rig, since I'm only using it for tracking anyway and
> wouldn't need to twiddle that particular knob. But aesthetically, it
> just bugs me.
>
> pabrick <parnell68@hotmail.com> wrote:
>after 8 months i and the dealer were dealing with the higher ups. it
>was they who told me the news. remember i had the logic board, cpu
>and boot drive replaced twice by them. rather than admit the ff800
>made only for one month prior to the g5 just didn't work right until
>10.3.7 came out.
>
Many people have and do use the PowerMac G4 800 with no problems, including
Audio guys, so.....I don't know what's up with that.
I don't know when you bought your G4 FW800. The power Mac G4 FW 800 was
released at Macworld in January 2003, and was discontinued in late June 2003,
so about 6 months. This wouldn't be considered short for a PC model.
>as to configuration support...i guess that would be logic and the
>ensemble...and fuck the rest of the world.
Oh, does Microsoft and Dell support Steinberg, cakewalk, RME and Presonus
configured on their products? How about the slapped together PCs? Nobody
can or will support every configuration. Your kind of being unfair.
>
>i guess i'd have to see the special engineering they have as any bench
>marking we've done with both apple and non apple ram show no
>difference other than price.
DJ was talking about the RAM that goes in the Intel Mac Pros. It is different
than standard RAM in that it has a heat sink on the memory. Look on page
four, it's not standard memory. You can buy cheaper memory from third parties
like I said, you don't have to buy the high priced Apple memory.
http://manuals.info.apple.com/en/MacPro_MemoryRiserCard-DIY. pdf
>
>On 30 Mar 2007 01:02:01 +1000, "James McCloskey"
><excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>>
>>rick <parnell68@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>if you use an pc mouse there are right click functions.
>>>
>>>it should invalidate your warranty but they will say (this is what
>>>they told me on my old g4) that once you install any soft or hardware
>>>and if the computer fails to function properly (even though others do
>>>with the same) it's your fault or the fault of the components or the
>>>fault of the weather but not their machine.
>>
>>Nobody else does this in the industry, only Apple.
>>
>>If you talk to some body higher up you can sometimes get stuff done. there
>>first line of support will some times tell you stupid stuff like just reinstall
>>your operating system. If you listen who's fault is that? Some of those
>>people are right out of training. You got to go higher!
>>
>>Apple needs to fix stuff like that. Although, no company can or will support
>>every configuration.
>>
>>>
>>>the last place i would get ram from is apple. there's nothing special
>>>about it other than they've tested it and it works. you can buy the
>>>same ram from just about anywhere for 1/4 the cost.
>>>
>>
>>YES! Apple RAM is over priced, don't buy it, ever! However, the RAM in
>>the MacPro tower was specially engineered to work in that machine. Like
>>I said, it has heat sinks on the memory. That is how they got so much
RAM
>>in the MacPro, and as close together as it is. As I know it, if you put
>>regular ram in those machines, you will kill the MOBO with in a couple
of
>>years.
>>
>>>
>>>On Thu, 29 Mar 2007 00:01:13 -0600, "DJ" <www.aarrrrggghhh!!!.com>
>>>wrote:
>>>
>>>>If you introduce components to the Mac that aren't factory installed,
does
>>
>>>>this hose your Applecare?
>>>>
>>>>thanks,
>>>>
>>>>Deej
>>>>
>>>>"Jamie K" <Meta@Dimensional.com> wrote in message news:460b5645@linux...
>>>>>
>>>>> When I bought my happy dual G5 I bought the extra RAM and HD elsewhere.
>>
>>>>> Saved a few bucks.
>>>>>
>>>>> You may want to wait until April 16th to see what Apple is bringing
out
>>
>>>>> for NAB. Might be 8 core time, and a price drop on the quads. Just
a
>>
>>>>> guess.
>>>>>
>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>> -Jamie
>>>>> www.JamieKrutz.com
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> DJ wrote:
>>>>>> I was just spec'ing out one of these.Macs on Apple's website with
dual
>>
>>>>>> 2.66GHz Xeon coreduo CPU's, two 500G backup HD's and 4G RAM. (how
they
>>
>>>>>> can justify charging over $1k for 4 x 1G 667MHZ ECC RAM sticks boggles
>>
>>>>>> the mind)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Total price from Apple was $4545.00 (without adding Applecare which
>>I
>>>>>> would definitely want to do given some of the experiences I and others
>>
>>>>>> here have had with Macs so we're looking at another $249.00 for a
total
>>
>>>>>> of $4794.00).
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I just spec'ed the same basic computer componentry for building a
DIY
>>PC
>>>>>> from Newegg for $2659.90 and this would include Vista Ultimate. That's
>>a
>>>>>> difference of $2135.00. For less than this $2k difference added to
the
>>PC
>>>>>> you could upgrade to dual quad XEON CPU's, more and faster memory
that
>>
>>>>>> would have the PC running circles around the Mac.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'm not trying to bash Macs here James (like I usually do ;o) I'm
just
>>
>>>>>> trying to see what the justification might be for paying almost twice
>>the
>>>>>> price for a Mac when I could build a faster PC in about a day..........a
>>
>>>>>> goodly part of which time could be spent doing other things while
>>>>>> formatting all of the drives and loading the OS.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'm sorry man. The priviledge of using the MacOS just isn't worth
$2k
>>+
>>>>>> to me so the Mac pricing still doesn't come close to anything I would
>>
>>>>>> want to get involved with..................even if it can run Windows
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ;o)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Deej
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "DJ" <www.aarrrrggghhh!!!.com> wrote in message news:460b4556@linux...
>>>>>>> James,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Has Apple implemented the *right click* feature in OSX so that a
two
>>
>>>>>>> button (or more) mouse can be used? I should have checked this last
>>time
>>>>>>> I was at the Mac store here. Surely they have by now.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Deej
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>> news:460b3fd0$1@linux...
>>>>>>>> http://www.apple.com/macosx/bootcamp/
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>
>Did Al Gore show up for a photo opp, and say the fire was a result of global
warming?
When he gave a speech and said the grass fires in florida that were caused
by lightning were the result of global warming, the people wanted to run
him out on a rail.
Sorry Gene, just cracking a joke, not looking for a debate; )
Hope you had a good time down there.
"Gene Lennon" <glennon@NOSPmyrealbox.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>Just got back from Tampa where the temp was in the 80’s. Incredible fire
on
>a major highway there last night. I saw the flames from several miles away,
>but the weather was great.
>Gene
>The planet is actually warming, according to measurements.
Could that trend make grass dryer and lightning more common in some
areas? Possibly.
But the main thing to realize is that a warming planet will experience a
variety of changes in climate, influencing things like weather and
average sea level. Some of these changes may eventually make things
difficult for various species, including our own.
This is true with or without Al Gore.
But joke away anyway, Al probably has a pretty thick skin by now.
Cheers,
-Jamie
www.JamieKrutz.com
James McCloskey wrote:
> Did Al Gore show up for a photo opp, and say the fire was a result of global
> warming?
>
> When he gave a speech and said the grass fires in florida that were caused
> by lightning were the result of global warming, the people wanted to run
> him out on a rail.
>
> Sorry Gene, just cracking a joke, not looking for a debate; )
>
> Hope you had a good time down there.
>
>
>
> "Gene Lennon" <glennon@NOSPmyrealbox.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>> Just got back from Tampa where the temp was in the 80’s. Incredible fire
> on
>> a major highway there last night. I saw the flames from several miles away,
>> but the weather was great.
>> Gene
>>
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dry grass, pine needles etc., and these kind of fires for years, it's nothing
new.
James
Jamie K <Meta@Dimensional.com> wrote:
>
>The planet is actually warming, according to measurements.
>
>Could that trend make grass dryer and lightning more common in some
>areas? Possibly.
>
>But the main thing to realize is that a warming planet will experience a
>variety of changes in climate, influencing things like weather and
>average sea level. Some of these changes may eventually make things
>difficult for various species, including our own.
>
>This is true with or without Al Gore.
>
>But joke away anyway, Al probably has a pretty thick skin by now.
>
>Cheers,
> -Jamie
> www.JamieKrutz.com
>
>
>James McCloskey wrote:
>> Did Al Gore show up for a photo opp, and say the fire was a result of
global
>> warming?
>>
>> When he gave a speech and said the grass fires in florida that were caused
>> by lightning were the result of global warming, the people wanted to run
>> him out on a rail.
>>
>> Sorry Gene, just cracking a joke, not looking for a debate; )
>>
>> Hope you had a good time down there.
>>
>>
>>
>> "Gene Lennon" <glennon@NOSPmyrealbox.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> Just got back from Tampa where the temp was in the 80’s. Incredible fire
>> on
>>> a major highway there last night. I saw the flames from several miles
away,
>>> but the weather was great.
>>> Gene
>>>
>>This is a multi-part message in MIME format.
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Tom
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------=_NextPart_000_01F0_01C77280.95D4A570--Looks like I picked a good week to go to Phoenix
to watch spring training baseball (my 8 year old son
is a big Texas Rangers fan--he caught a fly ball on
Monday and got Sammy Sosa to sign it yesterday)...
"DJ" <www.aarrrrggghhh!!!.com> wrote:
>....and the Purgatory ski resort about two weeks ago. The flakes are so
big
>today they look like popcorn falling from the sky and all the trees and
>flowers are starting to bloom out while this is going on.
>
>What an amazing show.
>
>;o)
>
>James McCloskey wrote:
> Jamie, ever bin to Florida at different times of the year? Florida has had
> dry grass, pine needles etc., and these kind of fires for years, it's nothing
> new.
Being "nothing new" doesn't exempt a type of event from being influenced
by global warming. With the level of warming we've seen recently, we're
not talking about creating new types of events. We're talking about
changes in the frequency and distribution of familiar events that are
climate driven.
So, for example, we may see dryer forests and more forest fires here in
the Western USA. Higher average temperatures and shifts in rainfall can
contribute to that, and those are climate driven and thus susceptible to
being influenced by warming trends.
It's difficult to pin any specific event on global warming because there
are other shorter term factors involved. But over time we may see
patterns of increases and shifts that may not be accountable by other
cycles. These patterns are easier to see after time passes, looking back.
So we may indeed find that Florida fires and/or lightning strikes are
increasing in a way that tracks with increased average temperature, in
which case Al may be right. Or we may find that Florida is instead
getting wetter, fires are decreasing and THAT may be an effect of global
warming. Or we may find that the fires are more influenced by a shorter
cycle variation, like el nino or some other climate cycle.
In short, it may be too soon to tell if some aspect of the fires are
currently being influenced by global warming yet. But I wouldn't rule
out the possibility.
Cheers,
-Jamie
www.JamieKrutz.com
> James
>
> Jamie K <Meta@Dimensional.com> wrote:
>> The planet is actually warming, according to measurements.
>>
>> Could that trend make grass dryer and lightning more common in some
>> areas? Possibly.
>>
>> But the main thing to realize is that a warming planet will experience a
>
>> variety of changes in climate, influencing things like weather and
>> average sea level. Some of these changes may eventually make things
>> difficult for various species, including our own.
>>
>> This is true with or without Al Gore.
>>
>> But joke away anyway, Al probably has a pretty thick skin by now.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> -Jamie
>> www.JamieKrutz.com
>>
>>
>> James McCloskey wrote:
>>> Did Al Gore show up for a photo opp, and say the fire was a result of
> global
>>> warming?
>>>
>>> When he gave a speech and said the grass fires in florida that were caused
>>> by lightning were the result of global warming, the people wanted to run
>>> him out on a rail.
>>>
>>> Sorry Gene, just cracking a joke, not looking for a debate; )
>>>
>>> Hope you had a good time down there.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> "Gene Lennon" <glennon@NOSPmyrealbox.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Just got back from Tampa where the temp was in the 80’s. Incredible fire
>>> on
>>>> a major highway there last night. I saw the flames from several miles
> away,
>>>> but the weather was great.
>>>> Gene
>>>>
>purchased the day before the g5's debut.
fuck the rest of the world is more for now. they're position was
anything anytime not working was due to the "other" and not them.
when os updates make some mfgs. ram no longer compatible the wtf.
even though it was mac's doing they were blaming others for their
short comings with firewire and it's working with outside produced
gear. then later (years) admit it's theirs.
why you keep dragging pc's into this i don't know. the discussion
here was about a mac. i effing know that one can and does encounter
problem with compatibility issues with certain mobos and gear. but
you don't see posts pulled by other mfg's. the way you do mac. if
there's a negative post or topic they are most likely to be pulled by
the mac moderators.
memory with heat sinks is hardly new and not a mac invention. i've
had that on my mushkin ram for years before mac "invented it"
On 30 Mar 2007 15:40:03 +1000, "James McCloskey"
<excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>rick <parnell68@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>after 8 months i and the dealer were dealing with the higher ups. it
>>was they who told me the news. remember i had the logic board, cpu
>>and boot drive replaced twice by them. rather than admit the ff800
>>made only for one month prior to the g5 just didn't work right until
>>10.3.7 came out.
>>
>
>Many people have and do use the PowerMac G4 800 with no problems, including
>Audio guys, so.....I don't know what's up with that.
>
>I don't know when you bought your G4 FW800. The power Mac G4 FW 800 was
>released at Macworld in January 2003, and was discontinued in late June 2003,
>so about 6 months. This wouldn't be considered short for a PC model.
>
>>as to configuration support...i guess that would be logic and the
>>ensemble...and fuck the rest of the world.
>
>Oh, does Microsoft and Dell support Steinberg, cakewalk, RME and Presonus
>configured on their products? How about the slapped together PCs? Nobody
>can or will support every configuration. Your kind of being unfair.
>
>>
>>i guess i'd have to see the special engineering they have as any bench
>>marking we've done with both apple and non apple ram show no
>>difference other than price.
>
>DJ was talking about the RAM that goes in the Intel Mac Pros. It is different
>than standard RAM in that it has a heat sink on the memory. Look on page
>four, it's not standard memory. You can buy cheaper memory from third parties
>like I said, you don't have to buy the high priced Apple memory.
>
> http://manuals.info.apple.com/en/MacPro_MemoryRiserCard-DIY. pdf
>
>>
>>On 30 Mar 2007 01:02:01 +1000, "James McCloskey"
>><excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>rick <parnell68@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>if you use an pc mouse there are right click functions.
>>>>
>>>>it should invalidate your warranty but they will say (this is what
>>>>they told me on my old g4) that once you install any soft or hardware
>>>>and if the computer fails to function properly (even though others do
>>>>with the same) it's your fault or the fault of the components or the
>>>>fault of the weather but not their machine.
>>>
>>>Nobody else does this in the industry, only Apple.
>>>
>>>If you talk to some body higher up you can sometimes get stuff done. there
>>>first line of support will some times tell you stupid stuff like just reinstall
>>>your operating system. If you listen who's fault is that? Some of those
>>>people are right out of training. You got to go higher!
>>>
>>>Apple needs to fix stuff like that. Although, no company can or will support
>>>every configuration.
>>>
>>>>
>>>>the last place i would get ram from is apple. there's nothing special
>>>>about it other than they've tested it and it works. you can buy the
>>>>same ram from just about anywhere for 1/4 the cost.
>>>>
>>>
>>>YES! Apple RAM is over priced, don't buy it, ever! However, the RAM in
>>>the MacPro tower was specially engineered to work in that machine. Like
>>>I said, it has heat sinks on the memory. That is how they got so much
>RAM
>>>in the MacPro, and as close together as it is. As I know it, if you put
>>>regular ram in those machines, you will kill the MOBO with in a couple
>of
>>>years.
>>>
>>>>
>>>>On Thu, 29 Mar 2007 00:01:13 -0600, "DJ" <www.aarrrrggghhh!!!.com>
>>>>wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>If you introduce components to the Mac that aren't factory installed,
>does
>>>
>>>>>this hose your Applecare?
>>>>>
>>>>>thanks,
>>>>>
>>>>>Deej
>>>>>
>>>>>"Jamie K" <Meta@Dimensional.com> wrote in message news:460b5645@linux...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> When I bought my happy dual G5 I bought the extra RAM and HD elsewhere.
>>>
>>>>>> Saved a few bucks.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> You may want to wait until April 16th to see what Apple is bringing
>out
>>>
>>>>>> for NAB. Might be 8 core time, and a price drop on the quads. Just
>a
>>>
>>>>>> guess.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>> -Jamie
>>>>>> www.JamieKrutz.com
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> DJ wrote:
>>>>>>> I was just spec'ing out one of these.Macs on Apple's website with
>dual
>>>
>>>>>>> 2.66GHz Xeon coreduo CPU's, two 500G backup HD's and 4G RAM. (how
>they
>>>
>>>>>>> can justify charging over $1k for 4 x 1G 667MHZ ECC RAM sticks boggles
>>>
>>>>>>> the mind)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Total price from Apple was $4545.00 (without adding Applecare which
>>>I
>>>>>>> would definitely want to do given some of the experiences I and others
>>>
>>>>>>> here have had with Macs so we're looking at another $249.00 for a
>total
>>>
>>>>>>> of $4794.00).
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I just spec'ed the same basic computer componentry for building a
>DIY
>>>PC
>>>>>>> from Newegg for $2659.90 and this would include Vista Ultimate. That's
>>>a
>>>>>>> difference of $2135.00. For less than this $2k difference added to
>the
>>>PC
>>>>>>> you could upgrade to dual quad XEON CPU's, more and faster memory
>that
>>>
>>>>>>> would have the PC running circles around the Mac.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I'm not trying to bash Macs here James (like I usually do ;o) I'm
>just
>>>
>>>>>>> trying to see what the justification might be for paying almost twice
>>>the
>>>>>>> price for a Mac when I could build a faster PC in about a day..........a
>>>
>>>>>>> goodly part of which time could be spent doing other things while
>
>>>>>>> formatting all of the drives and loading the OS.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I'm sorry man. The priviledge of using the MacOS just isn't worth
>$2k
>>>+
>>>>>>> to me so the Mac pricing still doesn't come close to anything I would
>>>
>>>>>>> want to get involved with..................even if it can run Windows
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ;o)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Deej
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "DJ" <www.aarrrrggghhh!!!.com> wrote in message news:460b4556@linux...
>>>>>>>> James,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Has Apple implemented the *right click* feature in OSX so that a
>two
>>>
>>>>>>>> button (or more) mouse can be used? I should have checked this last
>>>time
>>>>>>>> I was at the Mac store here. Surely they have by now.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Deej
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> "James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>>> news:460b3fd0$1@linux...
>>>>>>>>> http://www.apple.com/macosx/bootcamp/
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>
>>it's been pretty sporadic here but getable.
On 30 Mar 2007 06:40:12 +1000, "LaMont" <jjdpro@ameritech.net> wrote:
>
>Hey.. What happend to gearslutz.com It's been down for 2-3 days..???i like the orpheus by prism sound. i just wish it would be less than
5k.
On 30 Mar 2007 17:28:59 +1000, "James McCloskey"
<excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> http://messe.harmony-central.com/Musikmesse07/Content/SMProA udio/PR/Stage-Buddy.html
>
>http://www.sonicstate.com/news/shownews.cfm?newsid=4512
>
>My next drum set! And you guitar players laugh at us for carrying all our
>gear. Wait till we show up to the gig with this!
>http://www.sonicstate.com/news/shownews.cfm?newsid=4513
>
>http://www.sonicstate.com/news/shownews.cfm?newsid=4507
>
>http://www.sonicstate.com/news/shownews.cfm?newsid=4478
>
>http://www.sonicstate.com/news/shownews.cfm?newsid=4496
>
>http://www.sonicstate.com/news/shownews.cfm?newsid=4506
>
>http://www.sonicstate.com/news/shownews.cfm?newsid=4505
>
>http://www.sonicstate.com/news/shownews.cfm?newsid=4502
>
>RME PCIe
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>http://www.sonicstate.com/news/shownews.cfm?newsid=4492
>
>Alesis Mixer for your iPod
>http://www.sonicstate.com/news/shownews.cfm?newsid=4488
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>http://www.sonicstate.com/news/shownews.cfm?newsid=4481
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>http://www.sonicstate.com/news/shownews.cfm?newsid=4524
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>Steinberg's Sequel
>http://www.sonicstate.com/news/shownews.cfm?newsid=4503
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> http://messe.harmony-central.com/Musikmesse07/Content/Blacks tarAmplification/PR/HT.html
>
>Liquid Mix v2.0
> http://messe.harmony-central.com/Musikmesse07/Content/Focusr ite/PR/Liquid-Mix-2.htmli'm sure it's pretty but pleas keep it there. it's just starting to
get nice around here.
thanks
On Thu, 29 Mar 2007 13:13:43 -0600, "DJ" <www.aarrrrggghhh!!!.com>
wrote:
>....and the Purgatory ski resort about two weeks ago. The flakes are so big
>today they look like popcorn falling from the sky and all the trees and
>flowers are starting to bloom out while this is going on.
>
>What an amazing show.
>
>;o)
>Turns out I had spyware that hosed my DNS and was redirecting me. Some funky
exe from some spyware site fixed me up. Weird!Also look under Hardware / C16 / Repair on http://www.kfocus.com/paris/
"Aaron Allen" <know-spam@not_here.dude> wrote:
>Doug Wellington is kind enough to host this for us...
>
> http://homepage.mac.com/osxlover/ParisFAQs/CS16RepairEnc.htm l
>
>
>AA
>
>
>"Paul Braun" <cygnus_nospam@ctgonline.org> wrote in message
>news:t2uo035dlksiaatdo9m948dqjtu7bl6ope@4ax.com...
>> Today was a bonus day. Got the loaner 8in from Brother Rick, got the
>> bundle of stuff I won from ebay. So, I'm completely covered for the
>> Peterik concert on the 15th.
>>
>> However, when I unboxed the bundle of stuff, I noticed that while the
>> MEC looks good, and the 8in card was still installed, so it's safe,
>> the Bandwidth knob on the 16 is flopping around. I assume the pot
>> broke loose off the pcb.
>>
>> How much of a bitch is it to open one of these things, possibly solder
>> in a new pot, and then get all the fiddly bits to go back in place?
>>
>> I suppose I could just relegate that controller to the mobile
>> recording rig, since I'm only using it for tracking anyway and
>> wouldn't need to twiddle that particular knob. But aesthetically, it
>> just bugs me.
>>
>> pab
>
>How am I supposed to make music with my new core2 duo when my wife is inviting
people over for dinner? I mean so what.......these are people she hasn't
seen in 20 years and are friends she grew up with ! The nerve.My Kingdom for a spare $750 USD
Don
"Neil" <OIUOIU@OIU.com> wrote in message news:460c68d3$1@linux...
>
> The SyncPlate is a word-clockable device that has BNC insies &
> outsies, and has a cable that attaches to a plug assembly on
> the DSP card. It enables you to slave the pulsar card to
> external devices, or have it act as a master clock for external
> devices. It fits in a PCI slot for the purposes of mounting it,
> but has no actual PCI bus connections. They're normally about
> $200 street price.
>
>
> "Don Nafe" <dnafe@magma.ca> wrote:
>>Hey Neil
>>
>>what is the sync plate?
>>
>>
>>"Neil" <IOUOIU@OIU.com> wrote in message news:460c64e4$1@linux...
>>>
>>> (also posted to the "For Sale" group)
>>>
>>> OK, here's what I've got left:
>>>
>>> * Groove Tubes GT66 LDC Tube mic $350.
>>>
>>> * B.L.U.E. Blueberry w/wood box & B.L.U.E. shockmount/windscreen
>>> $700.
>>>
>>> Both in minty-fresh condition.. pics here:
>>> http://www.saqqararecords.com/html/4sale.htm
>>>
>>> Stuff that's not really something you'd need to see a pic of:
>>>
>>> * Creamware/Scope Pulsar Project Card & SyncPlate $750.
>>> This is like basically getting a brand-new Project card (used
>>> less than a handful of tims) for $50 off street price, and
>>> getting a sync plate thrown in for free. The Project Card has
>>> 6 SHARC DSP chips, and this version is one with the "puls" i/o options
> -
>>> balanced analog i/o's, 2 lightpipe in's, 2 lightpipe
>>> outs, and MIDI in/out/thru. For those of you who haven't seen
>>> these, it's pretty close to the size of an EDS card. You can
>>> get more details here:
>>> http://www.infinitevortex.com/creamware/scope-cards/project/
>>>
>>>
>>> * MOTU Symphonic Instrument. VSTi, sounds nice & clean, well-
>>> recorded samples it seems - it's just not my cup o' tea. Has a
>>> built-in convo reverb! License is via iLok (included). $200.
>>> Info link & demo clips here:
>>> http://www.motu.com/products/software/msi
>>>
>>> Paris gear-wise, I would consider a trade or partial trade for
>>> an 8-in module and/or an ADAT card.
>>>
>>> Other-gear-wise, I could use a superclean/superfast preamp like
>>> a Massenburg, or something of that ilk. Could use something
>>> interesting in the way of compressors.
>>>
>>> Depending on what you were trading to me, and for which of my
>>> stuff we were trading for, I'm open to working the cash portion
>>> (if any is needed) in either direction.
>>>
>>> e-me at: neil DOT henderson AT sbcglobal DOT net
>>>
>>>
>>> Neil
>>
>>
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"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>Did Al Gore show up for a photo opp, and say the fire was a result of global
>warming?
>
>When he gave a speech and said the grass fires in florida that were caused
>by lightning were the result of global warming, the people wanted to run
>him out on a rail.
>
>Sorry Gene, just cracking a joke, not looking for a debate; )
>
>Hope you had a good time down there.
>
I did have a good time, thanks.
One Guinness too many at the James Joyce, then a “trip” down East 7th street
to:
http://www.columbiarestaurant.com/ybor.asp
A little touristy but highly recommended.
The fire was a gas truck that caught fire on an elevated highway. No Global
Warming involved as far as I know.
I can’t blame the people who don’t believe in Global Warming. Our government
has been involved in a multi-year publicity campaign of disinformation, and
most people cant help but believe what they are told by our government, particularly
if they belong to the same party. That works out good for the Bush’s and
Cheney’s of the world.
It still gives me comfort to know the last few “Global Warming is a Liberal
fallacy” holdouts are right here on the Paris users group.
Gene -)
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John [1]
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nk">http://www.sonicstate.com/news/shownews.cfm?newsid=4506
>
> http://www.sonicstate.com/news/shownews.cfm?newsid=4505
>
> http://www.sonicstate.com/news/shownews.cfm?newsid=4502
>
> RME PCIe
> http://www.sonicstate.com/news/shownews.cfm?newsid=4493
>
> DAW multitouch sensor control surface
> http://www.sonicstate.com/news/shownews.cfm?newsid=4492
>
> Alesis Mixer for your iPod
> http://www.sonicstate.com/news/shownews.cfm?newsid=4488
>
> Surround Miking System
> http://www.sonicstate.com/news/shownews.cfm?newsid=4481
>
> http://www.sonicstate.com/news/shownews.cfm?newsid=4477
>
> http://www.sonicstate.com/news/shownews.cfm?newsid=4498
>
> SSL pre
> http://www.sonicstate.com/news/shownews.cfm?newsid=4524
>
> Steinberg's Sequel
> http://www.sonicstate.com/news/shownews.cfm?newsid=4503
>
> http://messe.harmony-central.com/Musikmesse07/Content/Blacks tarAmplification/PR/HT.html
>
> Liquid Mix v2.0
> http://messe.harmony-central.com/Musikmesse07/Content/Focusr ite/PR/Liquid-Mix-2.html
>
--
Chris Ludwig
ADK
chrisl@adkproaudio.com <mailto:chrisl@adkproaudio.com>
www.adkproaudio.com <http://www.adkproaudio.com/>
(859) 635-5762It stopped yesterday afternoon and all melted. We've got 4" on the ground
this morning and it's still snowing hard, and I mean like as in a January
snowfall. I'm glad we didn't curry our horses last weekend. That removes
their winter undercoat and they're needing it today. I had a feeling it
would be a good thing to wait. I was right. They're out in the pasture
right now looking around wondering where all the green grass is that they
were munchin' on yesterday.
Time to go throw some hay at these guys
;o)
"John Macy" <spamlessjohn@johnmacy.com> wrote in message
news:460cc696$1@linux...
>
> Looks like I picked a good week to go to Phoenix
> to watch spring training baseball (my 8 year old son
> is a big Texas Rangers fan--he caught a fly ball on
> Monday and got Sammy Sosa to sign it yesterday)...
>
>
>
> "DJ" <www.aarrrrggghhh!!!.com> wrote:
>>....and the Purgatory ski resort about two weeks ago. The flakes are so
> big
>>today they look like popcorn falling from the sky and all the trees and
>
>>flowers are starting to bloom out while this is going on.
>>
>>What an amazing show.
>>
>>;o)
>>
>>
>Tom. I'd be real interested in what you find out. I'm tempted to buy it before
the 31st (tomorrow) if it works, but if there's something that breaks it
in Paris, the...NOT.
Anyone else been able to use this in Paris on a PC???
Rod
"Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>
>I bought it and it isn't working for me. It outputs what sounds like =
>just the
>latent signal mixed in with the dry. No eq is possible either.?. I =
>wrapped
>it with FxPansion 3.3 but it won't play nice yet on my PC. I emailed
>UA and hope to find a cure.
>
>Tom
> "Gantt Kushner" <ganttmann@comcast.net> wrote in message =
>news:460ac80b$1@linux...
>
> I just started the 14 day demo. It's kind of a strange EQ. I'm =
>curious about
> others' thoughts on it. I just bought the Multiband Limiter w/ my =
>discount.
> It seems like it'll be a powerful tool once I figure out how to work
=
>it!
>
> Gantt
>
>
>I choose Polesoft Lockspam to fight spam, and you?
>http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html
>
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> <DIV>"Gantt Kushner" <<A=20
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>wrote in=20
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> started the 14 day demo. It's kind of a strange EQ. I'm =
>curious=20
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>Limiter w/=20
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><DIV><FONT size=3D2><BR><BR>I choose Polesoft Lockspam to fight spam, =
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>.html</A> </FONT></DIV></BODY></HTML>
>
>I was gonna say.........
The first FU is the fact, at least from looking at the demo, it appears that
the drum track determines the tempo of the song. You need to be able to set
the tempo to whatever you want and have the tracks snap to that tempo. It
may be able to do this, I don't know, but it needs to be able to do it
automatically, without jumping through the hitpoints/warping hoops or
anything else. Drag it, it nails to the grid and so does everything else.
Otherwise, what's the point? there are plenty of proggies out there for this
now.
"Chris Ludwig" <chrisl@adkproaudio.com> wrote in message
news:460d17ea@linux...
> Hi James,
> The Steinberg Sequel is just depressing and dumb.
>
> Chris
>
>
> James McCloskey wrote:
>> http://messe.harmony-central.com/Musikmesse07/Content/SMProA udio/PR/Stage-Buddy.html
>>
>> http://www.sonicstate.com/news/shownews.cfm?newsid=4512
>>
>> My next drum set! And you guitar players laugh at us for carrying all
>> our
>> gear. Wait till we show up to the gig with this!
>> http://www.sonicstate.com/news/shownews.cfm?newsid=4513
>>
>> http://www.sonicstate.com/news/shownews.cfm?newsid=4507
>>
>> http://www.sonicstate.com/news/shownews.cfm?newsid=4478
>>
>> http://www.sonicstate.com/news/shownews.cfm?newsid=4496
>>
>> http://www.sonicstate.com/news/shownews.cfm?newsid=4506
>>
>> http://www.sonicstate.com/news/shownews.cfm?newsid=4505
>>
>> http://www.sonicstate.com/news/shownews.cfm?newsid=4502
>>
>> RME PCIe
>> http://www.sonicstate.com/news/shownews.cfm?newsid=4493
>>
>> DAW multitouch sensor control surface
>> http://www.sonicstate.com/news/shownews.cfm?newsid=4492
>>
>> Alesis Mixer for your iPod
>> http://www.sonicstate.com/news/shownews.cfm?newsid=4488
>>
>> Surround Miking System
>> http://www.sonicstate.com/news/shownews.cfm?newsid=4481
>>
>> http://www.sonicstate.com/news/shownews.cfm?newsid=4477
>>
>> http://www.sonicstate.com/news/shownews.cfm?newsid=4498
>>
>> SSL pre
>> http://www.sonicstate.com/news/shownews.cfm?newsid=4524
>>
>> Steinberg's Sequel
>> http://www.sonicstate.com/news/shownews.cfm?newsid=4503
>>
>> http://messe.harmony-central.com/Musikmesse07/Content/Blacks tarAmplification/PR/HT.html
>>
>> Liquid Mix v2.0
>> http://messe.harmony-central.com/Musikmesse07/Content/Focusr ite/PR/Liquid-Mix-2.html
>>
>
> --
> Chris Ludwig
> ADK
> chrisl@adkproaudio.com <mailto:chrisl@adkproaudio.com>
> www.adkproaudio.com <http://www.adkproaudio.com/>
> (859) 635-5762Nawwww........no DA7
"Neil" <OIUOIU@OIU.com> wrote in message news:460c6f74$1@linux...
>
> You plug it into Cubase & try to see if you can get it to run
> any of the controls therein. Normally this is done through
> various MIDI ports & settings.
>
> Deej - is it on the list of Controls surfaces/devices when you
> pull down that submenu? (too lazy to boot the DAW & check for
> myself right now LOL!)
>
> Neil
>
>
> "Steve Cox" <stevec1@charter.net> wrote:
>>
>>DJ, I don't know how to tell. I am not familiar with such. How does one
> find
>>out?
>>
>>"DJ" <www.aarrrrggghhh!!!.com> wrote:
>>>I sat in on a demo of that board by Craig Anderton down in Austin a few
>>
>>>years back. Very nice board. Does this board hqave Cubase mapping?
>>>
>>>"Steve Cox" <stevec1@charter.net> wrote in message
>>>news:460bd7a0$1@linux...
>>>>
>>>> Yes, the DA7.com forum. I own a DA7 MkII. It is digital desk that when
>>it
>>>> came out a few years back, it listed for $15,550.00.Some poor soul who
>>
>>>> didn't
>>>> pay his pawn ticket in Texas is probably a little upset to loose the
> desk
>>>> for $700.00 I inserted it quickly into my 10 ft console. Another cool
>>
>>>> thing
>>>> that has happened to the studio. You know the 10 foot Argosy cosole
>>>> (with
>>>> no equipment in it)? Goes for I am guessing between 5-$700.00, My dad
>>is
>>>> a cabinet maker and built it for me as a gift, but with a 9 inch X 9
> inch
>>>> elbow resting pad. Great for sittig the guitar pods and such on.(n'
>>>> music
>>>> scores n' such) Cooler yet, he built it so the partitians between mixer
>>
>>>> bays
>>>> are movable. It is extreamly flexable. So when I got the DA7. I put the
>>
>>>> Mackie
>>>> 8 buss on the left side, it's 24 ch expander board on the right, and
>
>>>> plopped
>>>> the DA7 right in the sweet spot... the middle.
>>>>
>>>> "Neil" <IOUOIU@OIU.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>"Steve Cox" <stevec1@charter.net> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>I found one on another forum I belong to. Thanks'
>>>>>
>>>>>What? You belong to another forum? And here we thought we had
>>>>>you exclusively???
>>>>>
>>>>>Oh the betrayal!
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>Dude! You went all the way down to Tampa for dinner and didn't go to
Bern's Steak House (http://www.bernssteakhouse.com )? That's just sad.
I garowntee you that if AES is ever in Tampa, that's where we're
having the Paris dinner!
- Paul Artola
Ellicott City, Maryland
On 30 Mar 2007 23:01:19 +1000, "Gene Lennon"
<glennon@NOSPmyrealbox.com> wrote:
>> memory with heat sinks is hardly new and not a mac invention. i've
> had that on my mushkin ram for years before mac "invented it"
>
I thought Al Gore invented itThis raises a question that I've been wondering about for a while now - What
is the most recent version of the UAD-1 FX you PC guys are able to use?
Can the Neve EQ's and comps run in Paris on PC? On Mac we're stuck back
in UAD-1 v.3.9.
Gantt
"Rod Lincoln" <rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com> wrote:
>
>Tom. I'd be real interested in what you find out. I'm tempted to buy it
before
>the 31st (tomorrow) if it works, but if there's something that breaks it
>in Paris, the...NOT.
>Anyone else been able to use this in Paris on a PC???
>RodPut it on the plastic, dude! lol
"Don Nafe" <dnafe@magma.ca> wrote:
>My Kingdom for a spare $750 USD
>
>Don
>
>
>"Neil" <OIUOIU@OIU.com> wrote in message news:460c68d3$1@linux...
>>
>> The SyncPlate is a word-clockable device that has BNC insies &
>> outsies, and has a cable that attaches to a plug assembly on
>> the DSP card. It enables you to slave the pulsar card to
>> external devices, or have it act as a master clock for external
>> devices. It fits in a PCI slot for the purposes of mounting it,
>> but has no actual PCI bus connections. They're normally about
>> $200 street price.
>>
>>
>> "Don Nafe" <dnafe@magma.ca> wrote:
>>>Hey Neil
>>>
>>>what is the sync plate?
>>>
>>>
>>>"Neil" <IOUOIU@OIU.com> wrote in message news:460c64e4$1@linux...
>>>>
>>>> (also posted to the "For Sale" group)
>>>>
>>>> OK, here's what I've got left:
>>>>
>>>> * Groove Tubes GT66 LDC Tube mic $350.
>>>>
>>>> * B.L.U.E. Blueberry w/wood box & B.L.U.E. shockmount/windscreen
>>>> $700.
>>>>
>>>> Both in minty-fresh condition.. pics here:
>>>> http://www.saqqararecords.com/html/4sale.htm
>>>>
>>>> Stuff that's not really something you'd need to see a pic of:
>>>>
>>>> * Creamware/Scope Pulsar Project Card & SyncPlate $750.
>>>> This is like basically getting a brand-new Project card (used
>>>> less than a handful of tims) for $50 off street price, and
>>>> getting a sync plate thrown in for free. The Project Card has
>>>> 6 SHARC DSP chips, and this version is one with the "puls" i/o options
>> -
>>>> balanced analog i/o's, 2 lightpipe in's, 2 lightpipe
>>>> outs, and MIDI in/out/thru. For those of you who haven't seen
>>>> these, it's pretty close to the size of an EDS card. You can
>>>> get more details here:
>>>> http://www.infinitevortex.com/creamware/scope-cards/project/
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> * MOTU Symphonic Instrument. VSTi, sounds nice & clean, well-
>>>> recorded samples it seems - it's just not my cup o' tea. Has a
>>>> built-in convo reverb! License is via iLok (included). $200.
>>>> Info link & demo clips here:
>>>> http://www.motu.com/products/software/msi
>>>>
>>>> Paris gear-wise, I would consider a trade or partial trade for
>>>> an 8-in module and/or an ADAT card.
>>>>
>>>> Other-gear-wise, I could use a superclean/superfast preamp like
>>>> a Massenburg, or something of that ilk. Could use something
>>>> interesting in the way of compressors.
>>>>
>>>> Depending on what you were trading to me, and for which of my
>>>> stuff we were trading for, I'm open to working the cash portion
>>>> (if any is needed) in either direction.
>>>>
>>>> e-me at: neil DOT henderson AT sbcglobal DOT net
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Neil
>>>
>>>
>>
>
>could be worse...could be your friends from 20 years ago...
On 30 Mar 2007 21:27:47 +1000, "John" <no@no.com> wrote:
>
>How am I supposed to make music with my new core2 duo when my wife is inviting
>people over for dinner? I mean so what.......these are people she hasn't
>seen in 20 years and are friends she grew up with ! The nerve.
>Paul Artola <artola@comcast.net> wrote:
>Dude! You went all the way down to Tampa for dinner and didn't go to
>Bern's Steak House (http://www.bernssteakhouse.com )? That's just sad.
>I garowntee you that if AES is ever in Tampa, that's where we're
>having the Paris dinner!
>
>- Paul Artola
> Ellicott City, Maryland
Don’t be sad my friend. I did not come close to listing my entire culinary
itinerary. Berns Steakhouse did make the cut, as did Dempsey's Steak House
at the Saddlebrook. I won’t go on.
GeneIf I could I would...in a heartbeat but unfortunately we have some major
house expenses coming up that will require the temporary maxing out of the
cards in the event financing of said expenses gets held up....now should the
financing come through and your card is still available I'm sure we can work
out a amicable arrangement i.e. I give you cash, you give me card(s)
:-)
"Neil" <OIUOIU@OIU.com> wrote in message news:460d260a$1@linux...
>
> Put it on the plastic, dude! lol
>
> "Don Nafe" <dnafe@magma.ca> wrote:
>>My Kingdom for a spare $750 USD
>>
>>Don
>>
>>
>>"Neil" <OIUOIU@OIU.com> wrote in message news:460c68d3$1@linux...
>>>
>>> The SyncPlate is a word-clockable device that has BNC insies &
>>> outsies, and has a cable that attaches to a plug assembly on
>>> the DSP card. It enables you to slave the pulsar card to
>>> external devices, or have it act as a master clock for external
>>> devices. It fits in a PCI slot for the purposes of mounting it,
>>> but has no actual PCI bus connections. They're normally about
>>> $200 street price.
>>>
>>>
>>> "Don Nafe" <dnafe@magma.ca> wrote:
>>>>Hey Neil
>>>>
>>>>what is the sync plate?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>"Neil" <IOUOIU@OIU.com> wrote in message news:460c64e4$1@linux...
>>>>>
>>>>> (also posted to the "For Sale" group)
>>>>>
>>>>> OK, here's what I've got left:
>>>>>
>>>>> * Groove Tubes GT66 LDC Tube mic $350.
>>>>>
>>>>> * B.L.U.E. Blueberry w/wood box & B.L.U.E. shockmount/windscreen
>>>>> $700.
>>>>>
>>>>> Both in minty-fresh condition.. pics here:
>>>>> http://www.saqqararecords.com/html/4sale.htm
>>>>>
>>>>> Stuff that's not really something you'd need to see a pic of:
>>>>>
>>>>> * Creamware/Scope Pulsar Project Card & SyncPlate $750.
>>>>> This is like basically getting a brand-new Project card (used
>>>>> less than a handful of tims) for $50 off street price, and
>>>>> getting a sync plate thrown in for free. The Project Card has
>>>>> 6 SHARC DSP chips, and this version is one with the "puls" i/o options
>>> -
>>>>> balanced analog i/o's, 2 lightpipe in's, 2 lightpipe
>>>>> outs, and MIDI in/out/thru. For those of you who haven't seen
>>>>> these, it's pretty close to the size of an EDS card. You can
>>>>> get more details here:
>>>>> http://www.infinitevortex.com/creamware/scope-cards/project/
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> * MOTU Symphonic Instrument. VSTi, sounds nice & clean, well-
>>>>> recorded samples it seems - it's just not my cup o' tea. Has a
>>>>> built-in convo reverb! License is via iLok (included). $200.
>>>>> Info link & demo clips here:
>>>>> http://www.motu.com/products/software/msi
>>>>>
>>>>> Paris gear-wise, I would consider a trade or partial trade for
>>>>> an 8-in module and/or an ADAT card.
>>>>>
>>>>> Other-gear-wise, I could use a superclean/superfast preamp like
>>>>> a Massenburg, or something of that ilk. Could use something
>>>>> interesting in the way of compressors.
>>>>>
>>>>> Depending on what you were trading to me, and for which of my
>>>>> stuff we were trading for, I'm open to working the cash portion
>>>>> (if any is needed) in either direction.
>>>>>
>>>>> e-me at: neil DOT henderson AT sbcglobal DOT net
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Neil
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>Subject: Fwd: Be Careful What You Ask For . . .
Two priests died at the same time, and met Saint Peter at the
>>> Pearly Gates.
>>> Saint Peter said, "I'd like to get you guys in now, but our
>>> computer is
>>> down. You'll have to go back to Earth for about a week. But you
>>> can't go
>>> back as priests, so what else would you like to be?"
>>>
>>> The first priest says, "Well, I've always wanted to be an eagle,
>>> soaring
>>> above the Rocky Mountains." "So be it", says Saint Peter, and off
>>> flies the first priest.
>>> The second priest mulls this over for a moment and then asks,
>>> "Tell me,
>>> Saint Peter, will any of this week 'count',?" "No, I told you our
>>> computer's down. There's no way we can keep track of what you're
>>> doing
>>> for the next few days". "In that case", says the second priest,
>>> "I've always wanted to be a stud." "So be it" says Saint Peter,
>>> and the
>>> second priest disappears.
>>>
>>> A week goes by and the computer is fixed, and the Lord tells Saint
>>> Peter
>>> to recall the two priests. "Will you have any trouble locating
>>> them", He asks.
>>>
>>> "The first one should be easy", says Saint Peter. "He's somewhere over
>>> the Rockies, flying with the eagles. But the second one could prove
>>> to be
>>> more difficult."
>>>
>>> "Why?" asketh the Lord. "He's on a snow-tire, somewhere in North
>>> Dakota".and don't ever eat a turkey roll up just after cleaning a pound of
scallops...they tend to conflict with each other.
phew
On 30 Mar 2007 21:24:25 +1000, "John" <no@no.com> wrote:
>
>Turns out I had spyware that hosed my DNS and was redirecting me. Some funky
>exe from some spyware site fixed me up. Weird!Running 4.5 here, on a PC with Paris. That's the latest, (except for the latest
latest, with the Helios) with all the Neve stuff. Runs great.
Rod
"Gantt Kushner" <ganttmann@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>This raises a question that I've been wondering about for a while now -
What
>is the most recent version of the UAD-1 FX you PC guys are able to use?
>Can the Neve EQ's and comps run in Paris on PC? On Mac we're stuck back
>in UAD-1 v.3.9.
>
>Gantt
>
>"Rod Lincoln" <rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com> wrote:
>>
>>Tom. I'd be real interested in what you find out. I'm tempted to buy it
>before
>>the 31st (tomorrow) if it works, but if there's something that breaks it
>>in Paris, the...NOT.
>>Anyone else been able to use this in Paris on a PC???
>>Rod
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I followed your instructions (and theirs) to get this working.
I have a problem with my Pultec Pro authorization
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I'm giving them a call shortly.
Tom
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> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820211 066&CMP=EMC-IGNEFL033007&ATT=N82E16820211066
I could buy 16G of faster RAM for the price of 4 G of Apple memory.
"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:460b5b5d$1@linux...
>
> Don't ever buy RAM from Apple, it's a rip off. The RAM that goes in them
> was engineered. The Ram has specially designed heat sinks on them, that
> why
> they can place as much RAM in them and so close. You can get cheaper RAM
> for them from OWC, crucial and other places. Apple RAM, and LCD monitors
> have always been too expensive!
>
> "DJ" <www.aarrrrggghhh!!!.com> wrote:
>>I was just spec'ing out one of these.Macs on Apple's website with dual
>>2.66GHz Xeon coreduo CPU's, two 500G backup HD's and 4G RAM. (how they can
>
>>justify charging over $1k for 4 x 1G 667MHZ ECC RAM sticks boggles the
>>mind)
>>
>>Total price from Apple was $4545.00 (without adding Applecare which I
>>would
>
>>definitely want to do given some of the experiences I and others here have
>
>>had with Macs so we're looking at another $249.00 for a total of
>>$4794.00).
>>
>>I just spec'ed the same basic computer componentry for building a DIY PC
>
>>from Newegg for $2659.90 and this would include Vista Ultimate. That's a
>
>>difference of $2135.00. For less than this $2k difference added to the PC
>
>>you could upgrade to dual quad XEON CPU's, more and faster memory that
>>would
>
>>have the PC running circles around the Mac.
>>
>>I'm not trying to bash Macs here James (like I usually do ;o) I'm just
>>trying to see what the justification might be for paying almost twice the
>
>>price for a Mac when I could build a faster PC in about a day..........a
>
>>goodly part of which time could be spent doing other things while
>>formatting
>
>>all of the drives and loading the OS.
>>
>>I'm sorry man. The priviledge of using the MacOS just isn't worth $2k +
> to
>>me so the Mac pricing still doesn't come close to anything I would want
> to
>>get involved with..................even if it can run Windows
>>
>>;o)
>>
>>Deej
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>"DJ" <www.aarrrrggghhh!!!.com> wrote in message news:460b4556@linux...
>>> James,
>>>
>>> Has Apple implemented the *right click* feature in OSX so that a two
>>> button (or more) mouse can be used? I should have checked this last time
> I
>>> was at the Mac store here. Surely they have by now.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> Deej
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> "James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>> news:460b3fd0$1@linux...
>>>>
>>>> http://www.apple.com/macosx/bootcamp/
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>DJ, can you put 16GB of RAM in a PC?
"DJ" <www.aarrrrggghhh!!!.com> wrote:
> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820211 066&CMP=EMC-IGNEFL033007&ATT=N82E16820211066
>
>I could buy 16G of faster RAM for the price of 4 G of Apple memory.
>
>
>"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>news:460b5b5d$1@linux...
>>
>> Don't ever buy RAM from Apple, it's a rip off. The RAM that goes in
them
>> was engineered. The Ram has specially designed heat sinks on them, that
>> why
>> they can place as much RAM in them and so close. You can get cheaper
RAM
>> for them from OWC, crucial and other places. Apple RAM, and LCD monitors
>> have always been too expensive!
>>
>> "DJ" <www.aarrrrggghhh!!!.com> wrote:
>>>I was just spec'ing out one of these.Macs on Apple's website with dual
>>>2.66GHz Xeon coreduo CPU's, two 500G backup HD's and 4G RAM. (how they
can
>>
>>>justify charging over $1k for 4 x 1G 667MHZ ECC RAM sticks boggles the
>>>mind)
>>>
>>>Total price from Apple was $4545.00 (without adding Applecare which I
>>>would
>>
>>>definitely want to do given some of the experiences I and others here
have
>>
>>>had with Macs so we're looking at another $249.00 for a total of
>>>$4794.00).
>>>
>>>I just spec'ed the same basic computer componentry for building a DIY
PC
>>
>>>from Newegg for $2659.90 and this would include Vista Ultimate. That's
a
>>
>>>difference of $2135.00. For less than this $2k difference added to the
PC
>>
>>>you could upgrade to dual quad XEON CPU's, more and faster memory that
>>>would
>>
>>>have the PC running circles around the Mac.
>>>
>>>I'm not trying to bash Macs here James (like I usually do ;o) I'm just
>>>trying to see what the justification might be for paying almost twice
the
>>
>>>price for a Mac when I could build a faster PC in about a day..........a
>>
>>>goodly part of which time could be spent doing other things while
>>>formatting
>>
>>>all of the drives and loading the OS.
>>>
>>>I'm sorry man. The priviledge of using the MacOS just isn't worth $2k
+
>> to
>>>me so the Mac pricing still doesn't come close to anything I would want
>> to
>>>get involved with..................even if it can run Windows
>>>
>>>;o)
>>>
>>>Deej
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>"DJ" <www.aarrrrggghhh!!!.com> wrote in message news:460b4556@linux...
>>>> James,
>>>>
>>>> Has Apple implemented the *right click* feature in OSX so that a two
>>>> button (or more) mouse can be used? I should have checked this last
time
>> I
>>>> was at the Mac store here. Surely they have by now.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>>
>>>> Deej
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:460b3fd0$1@linux...
>>>>>
>>>>> http://www.apple.com/macosx/bootcamp/
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>
>I think I mentioned that to SWMBO and got a rather nasty look...you see
there's a work shed with her name on it (among other things that have to be
done) and if I steal from the workshed to pay Neil, well all I can say is I
hope Neil has a spare bedroom
;-)
"DJ" <www.aarrrrggghhh!!!.com> wrote in message news:460d4030@linux...
> Just roll the price of the cards into the financing.....and surely your
> home repairs will also need a DW Fearn preamp and and a Telefunlen U47 in
> order to be complet4ed properly.
>
> ;o)
>
> "Don Nafe" <dnafe@magma.ca> wrote in message news:460d29f8$1@linux...
>> If I could I would...in a heartbeat but unfortunately we have some major
>> house expenses coming up that will require the temporary maxing out of
>> the cards in the event financing of said expenses gets held up....now
>> should the financing come through and your card is still available I'm
>> sure we can work out a amicable arrangement i.e. I give you cash, you
>> give me card(s)
>>
>> :-)
>>
>>
>>
>> "Neil" <OIUOIU@OIU.com> wrote in message news:460d260a$1@linux...
>>>
>>> Put it on the plastic, dude! l
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Mon, 19 February 2007 08:52 |
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e "For Sale" group)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> OK, here's what I've got left:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> * Groove Tubes GT66 LDC Tube mic $350.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> * B.L.U.E. Blueberry w/wood box & B.L.U.E. shockmount/windscreen
>>>>>>>> $700.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Both in minty-fresh condition.. pics here:
>>>>>>>> http://www.saqqararecords.com/html/4sale.htm
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Stuff that's not really something you'd need to see a pic of:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> * Creamware/Scope Pulsar Project Card & SyncPlate $750.
>>>>>>>> This is like basically getting a brand-new Project card (used
>>>>>>>> less than a handful of tims) for $50 off street price, and
>>>>>>>> getting a sync plate thrown in for free. The Project Card has
>>>>>>>> 6 SHARC DSP chips, and this version is one with the "puls" i/o
>>>>>>>> options
>>>>>> -
>>>>>>>> balanced analog i/o's, 2 lightpipe in's, 2 lightpipe
>>>>>>>> outs, and MIDI in/out/thru. For those of you who haven't seen
>>>>>>>> these, it's pretty close to the size of an EDS card. You can
>>>>>>>> get more details here:
>>>>>>>> http://www.infinitevortex.com/creamware/scope-cards/project/
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> * MOTU Symphonic Instrument. VSTi, sounds nice & clean, well-
>>>>>>>> recorded samples it seems - it's just not my cup o' tea. Has a
>>>>>>>> built-in convo reverb! License is via iLok (included). $200.
>>>>>>>> Info link & demo clips here:
>>>>>>>> http://www.motu.com/products/software/msi
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Paris gear-wise, I would consider a trade or partial trade for
>>>>>>>> an 8-in module and/or an ADAT card.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Other-gear-wise, I could use a superclean/superfast preamp like
>>>>>>>> a Massenburg, or something of that ilk. Could use something
>>>>>>>> interesting in the way of compressors.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Depending on what you were trading to me, and for which of my
>>>>>>>> stuff we were trading for, I'm open to working the cash portion
>>>>>>>> (if any is needed) in either direction.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> e-me at: neil DOT henderson AT sbcglobal DOT net
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Neil
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>Not poor, cheap.
But thanks for the advice, I was planning on a Mackie anyway, because it's
supported natively in Live as well as SX.
TCB
Chris Ludwig <chrisl@adkproaudio.com> wrote:
>Hi Thad,
>Do you need one that is programmable?
>If not then the Mackie is the one everyone copies and it still has the
>best integration with the DAW stuff.
>
>The only other one I've seen that is well made and programmable is the
>Mixed Logic unit but it is a huge monster.
>
>The controllers that are built into the audio interfaces and digital
>mixers do not go deep enough for me to think they are worth while.
>And the vast majority of the other control surface units all use the
>Mackie Control format so why not just get the real thing? Also having no
>drivers to install being able to run longer cable runs with MIDI is also
>good.
>
>Unless I can address every part a channel I might as well use a mouse.
>The mackie control comes closest to this outside of the IK thing that
>runs with Nuendo. But that might be too much money for your poor Yankee
ass.
>
>
>Chris
>
>
>TCB wrote:
>> Has anyone tried one of these? I'm about to drop a lot more money on a
moving
>> fader control box. A lot more.
>>
>> TCB
>>
>> "James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>> ; ) Next they will have fruit flavors!
>>>
>>> http://www.behringer.com/BCF2000-WH/index.cfm?lang=eng
>>
>
>--
>Chris Ludwig
>
>ADK Pro Audio
>(859) 635-5762
>www.adkproaudio.com
>chrisl@adkproaudio.comNo, and be sure and share recording tidbits with them. Also, don't wear a
shirt to the table or shave. This should ensure their early departure.
Hope this helps,
Edna
"john" <no@no.com> wrote in message news:460d3171$1@linux...
>
> would it be rude to read my cubase manual at the table?Hi James,
Its still more of a alpha version. It's gotta a while to go before it
works the same as the PC version. I think he might be trying to get them
both be in sink with the 2.0 versions.
Chris
James McCloskey wrote:
> Are any of you mac guys playing with the bata of REAPER?
>
> Reaper Forum about REAPER.
> http://www.cockos.com/forum/showthread.php?t=4220
>
> Here's the latest Mac OSX version:
> http://reaper.fm/files/reaperosx-0.15U.dmg
>
--
Chris Ludwig
ADK
chrisl@adkproaudio.com <mailto:chrisl@adkproaudio.com>
www.adkproaudio.com <http://www.adkproaudio.com/>
(859) 635-5762Hi Thad,
Well with the new Pro version coming out you should probably ask around
at stores for deals that might have over stock of the old version. Or
ebay for them.
Chris
TCB wrote:
> Not poor, cheap.
>
> But thanks for the advice, I was planning on a Mackie anyway, because it's
> supported natively in Live as well as SX.
>
> TCB
>
> Chris Ludwig <chrisl@adkproaudio.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi Thad,
>> Do you need one that is programmable?
>> If not then the Mackie is the one everyone copies and it still has the
>> best integration with the DAW stuff.
>>
>> The only other one I've seen that is well made and programmable is the
>> Mixed Logic unit but it is a huge monster.
>>
>> The controllers that are built into the audio interfaces and digital
>> mixers do not go deep enough for me to think they are worth while.
>> And the vast majority of the other control surface units all use the
>> Mackie Control format so why not just get the real thing? Also having no
>>
>
>
>> drivers to install being able to run longer cable runs with MIDI is also
>>
>
>
>> good.
>>
>> Unless I can address every part a channel I might as well use a mouse.
>> The mackie control comes closest to this outside of the IK thing that
>> runs with Nuendo. But that might be too much money for your poor Yankee
>>
> ass.
>
>> Chris
>>
>>
>> TCB wrote:
>>
>>> Has anyone tried one of these? I'm about to drop a lot more money on a
>>>
> moving
>
>>> fader control box. A lot more.
>>>
>>> TCB
>>>
>>> "James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> ; ) Next they will have fruit flavors!
>>>>
>>>> http://www.behringer.com/BCF2000-WH/index.cfm?lang=eng
>>>>
>> --
>> Chris Ludwig
>>
>> ADK Pro Audio
>> (859) 635-5762
>> www.adkproaudio.com
>> chrisl@adkproaudio.com
>>
>
>
--
Chris Ludwig
ADK
chrisl@adkproaudio.com <mailto:chrisl@adkproaudio.com>
www.adkproaudio.com <http://www.adkproaudio.com/>
(859) 635-5762Chris Ludwig <chrisl@adkproaudio.com> wrote:
>Hi James,
>Its still more of a alpha version. It's gotta a while to go before it
>works the same as the PC version. I think he might be trying to get them
>both be in sink with the 2.0 versions.
>
>
>Chris
If This guy Jason keeps developing Reaper, and keeps the price the same,
all the other companies are going to have problems competing. Who is going
to want to pay a thousand dollars when you can buy Reaper for $39.00?
His development for Mac OSX seems to be rapid.
Now , if we could only get him to develop Reaper for Paris.....I Know, Shut
up.
James
>
>
>James McCloskey wrote:
>> Are any of you mac guys playing with the bata of REAPER?
>>
>> Reaper Forum about REAPER.
>> http://www.cockos.com/forum/showthread.php?t=4220
>>
>> Here's the latest Mac OSX version:
>> http://reaper.fm/files/reaperosx-0.15U.dmg
>>
>
>--
>Chris Ludwig
>ADK
>chrisl@adkproaudio.com <mailto:chrisl@adkproaudio.com>
>www.adkproaudio.com <http://www.adkproaudio.com/>
>(859) 635-5762Hi peeps.. hope everyone is well...
Well.. I took the leap. I was able to get a screaming deal from a little
studio in SF on a 5 month old, low hour DM3200 with a meter bridge and I'm
now deep in the throes of trying to understand it all and learn Cubase 4.
The new firewire card is still only marginally available and waiting on one
but I picked up a used MOTU 2408mk3 to use in the interim. Having some clocking
issues right now so I'm sure you'll be hearing from me...
Thanks again to everyone for all of the advice..
Party on Garth,
JonSo Mr. Ludwig,
What CPU/Ram combos would you suggest with this board for best stability
with Cubase 4?
Thanks!
jj
"Jon Jiles" <nomo@nomo.com> wrote:
>
>Hey Chris - Thanks a bunch for the info!!!
>Cheers,
>Jon
>
>Chris Ludwig <chrisl@adkproaudio.com> wrote:
>>Hi Jon,
>>make sure you load the newest BIOS before you getting to chipset/driver
>
>>updates etc.
>>
>>leave the sata controller on ids mode the raid mode is not very reliable.
>>Make sure you use the AMD dual core optimizer driver and the ULI chipset
>
>>update from Nvidias website not from ASUS website. Don't use the on
>>boards sound.
>>
>>Don't use 4 gigs of ram the board is not as stable with 4 gigs.
>>
>>
>>Chris
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>Jon Jiles wrote:
>>> Hey Chris,
>>>
>>> Thanks for the info. I'm kinda stuck in 939 land for a while yet though
>as
>>> my K8ns-ultra just died and, after a nightmare with an out of box A8V,
>I
>>> bought one of these.
>>>
>>> I also just bought a A DM-3200 and some other stuff (Ksp8, Cubase upgrade,
>>> etc)as well, so I'm kinda tapped out for the cash to do a major daw upgrade
>>> (mobo, cpu, memory etc.)right now.
>>>
>>> Any tweaks/caveats I should be aware of for the A8R in the meantime?
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Jon
>>>
>>>
>>> Chris Ludwig <chrisl@adkproaudio.com> wrote:
>>>> Hi Jon,
>>>> It's the last of the usable x2-939 motherboards. Not sure I would bother
>>>
>>>> with it now though. The board has been discontinued and is a dead end
>
>>>> for upgrades and such.
>>>> If you are looking to up grade from a pre 939 based AMD system then
it
>
>>>> will be a waste. At this point I would only recommend a Intel Core 2
>Duo
>>>
>>>> 975 chipset based system.
>>>> Significantly faster better upgrade path and can be got for similar
prices.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Chris
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Jon Jiles wrote:
>>>>> Hi Folks,
>>>>>
>>>>> Anyone out there with any experience with the Asus A8R-MVP and Cubase
>>> 4 ....or
>>>>> A8R as a DAW in general?
>>>>>
>>>>> Any tips?
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks a bunch,
>>>>> Jon
>>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Chris Ludwig
>>>> ADK
>>>> chrisl@adkproaudio.com <mailto:chrisl@adkproaudio.com>
>>>> www.adkproaudio.com <http://www.adkproaudio.com/>
>>>> (859) 635-5762
>>>
>>
>>--
>>Chris Ludwig
>>
>>ADK Pro Audio
>>(859) 635-5762
>>www.adkproaudio.com
>>chrisl@adkproaudio.com
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u6IPHmJWmDk&mode=related& amp;search=
It's a British documentary showing another viewpoint about global warming
and CO2. It's a viewpoint that is different from that of the man who
invented the internet...You will probably like it, once you get the hang of it. I had a DM 24 for
several years and it was very useful. Not the greatest sounding components
(mic pres and converters), but adequate with external pres. I don't doubt
the 3200 is better, especially in the converters - they seem to get better
and cheaper all the time. It is VERY nice to have all the routing a real
console gives. i really missed that after I sold my my old Matchless.
Have fun with the manual!
Bill
"Jon Jiles" <nojij@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:460eb9e3$1@linux...
>
> Hi peeps.. hope everyone is well...
>
> Well.. I took the leap. I was able to get a screaming deal from a little
> studio in SF on a 5 month old, low hour DM3200 with a meter bridge and I'm
> now deep in the throes of trying to understand it all and learn Cubase 4.
>
> The new firewire card is still only marginally available a
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TCB
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lobal warming skeptic. He started
a non- profit in Canada (the Natural Resources Stewardship Project) from
which he and Tom Harris (NRSP head) are well paid.
The Canadian federal Lobbyists Registration System indicates that High Park's
clients (NRSP) include the Canadian Electricity Association and the Canadian
Gas Association.
The Toronto Star Newspapers have done several articles outing the NRSP as
a shill for Canadian energy giants.
Do a little research before you jump on board the energy-backed misinformation
train.
Some info here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timothy_F._Ball
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Natural_Resources_Stewardship_P roject
These people will never stop finding people willing to take money to spread
the falsehoods.
Gene
"Bill Lorentzen" <bill@lorentzen.ws> wrote:
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u6IPHmJWmDk&mode=related& amp;search=
>
>It's a British documentary showing another viewpoint about global warming
>and CO2. It's a viewpoint that is different from that of the man who
>invented the internet...
>
>Gene,
You're going to have to do better than that. Character
assassination is a pretty poor response to the amount of
science in that piece.
best,
DC
"Gene Lennon" <glennon@NOSPmyrealbox.com> wrote:
>
>Timothy F. Ball is a well-known PROFESSIONAL global warming skeptic. He
started
>a non- profit in Canada (the Natural Resources Stewardship Project) from
>which he and Tom Harris (NRSP head) are well paid.
>
>The Canadian federal Lobbyists Registration System indicates that High Park's
>clients (NRSP) include the Canadian Electricity Association and the Canadian
>Gas Association.
>
>The Toronto Star Newspapers have done several articles outing the NRSP as
>a shill for Canadian energy giants.
>
>Do a little research before you jump on board the energy-backed misinformation
>train.
>
>Some info here:
>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timothy_F._Ball
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Natural_Resources_Stewardship_P roject
>
>These people will never stop finding people willing to take money to spread
>the falsehoods.
>
>Gene
>
>"Bill Lorentzen" <bill@lorentzen.ws> wrote:
>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u6IPHmJWmDk&mode=related& amp;search=
>>
>>It's a British documentary showing another viewpoint about global warming
>
>>and CO2. It's a viewpoint that is different from that of the man who
>>invented the internet...
>>
>>
>"DC" <dc@spammersinhell.com> wrote:
>
If you want to fall for this crap, it’s OK with me, but if you do a little
research you will find out some quick facts…like that many of the people
in the movie have take legal action against the producers for editing and
changing their actual comments recorded.
Mr. Steven Green
Head of Production
Wag TV
2D Leroy House
436 Essex Road
London N1 3QP
10 March 2007
Dear Mr. Green:
I am writing to record what I told you on the telephone yesterday about
your Channel 4 film "The Global Warming Swindle." Fundamentally,
I am the one who was swindled---please read the email below that
was sent to me (and re-sent by you). Based upon this email and
subsequent telephone conversations, and discussions with
the Director, Martin Durkin, I thought I was being asked
to appear in a film that would discuss in a balanced way
the complicated elements of understanding of climate change---
in the best traditions of British television. Is there any indication
in the email evident to an outsider that the product would be
so tendentious, so unbalanced?
I was approached, as explained to me on the telephone, because
I was known to have been unhappy with some of the more excitable
climate-change stories in the British media, most conspicuously the notion
that the Gulf
Stream could disappear, among others. When a journalist approaches me suggesting
a "critical approach" to a technical subject, as the email states, my inference
is that we
are to discuss which elements are contentious, why they are contentious,
and what the arguments are on all sides. To a scientist, "critical" does
not mean a hatchet job---it means a thorough-going examination of
the science. The scientific subjects described in the email,
and in the previous and subsequent telephone conversations, are complicated,
worthy of exploration, debate, and an educational effort with the
public. Hence my willingness to participate. Had the words "polemic", or
"swindle" appeared in these preliminary discussions, I would have
instantly declined to be involved.
I spent hours in the interview describing
many of the problems of understanding the ocean in climate change,
and the ways in which some of the more dramatic elements get
exaggerated in the media relative to more realistic, potentially
truly catastrophic issues, such as
the implications of the oncoming sea level rise. As I made clear, both in
the
preliminary discussions, and in the interview itself, I believe that
global warming is a very serious threat that needs equally serious
discussion and no one seeing this film could possibly deduce that.
What we now have is an out-and-out propaganda piece, in which
there is not even a gesture toward balance or explanation of why
many of the extended inferences drawn in the film are not widely
accepted by the scientific community. There are so many examples,
it's hard to know where to begin, so I will cite only one:
a speaker asserts, as is true, that carbon dioxide is only
a small fraction of the atmospheric mass. The viewer is left to
infer that means it couldn't really matter. But even a beginning
meteorology student could tell you that the relative masses of gases
are irrelevant to their effects on radiative balance. A director
not intending to produce pure propaganda would have tried to eliminate that
piece of disinformation.
An example where my own discussion was grossly distorted by context:
I am? shown explaining that a warming ocean could expel more
carbon dioxide than it absorbs -- thus exacerbating the greenhouse
gas buildup in the atmosphere and hence worrisome.? It
was used in the film, through its context, to imply
that CO2 is all natural, coming from the ocean, and that
therefore the human element is irrelevant. This use of my remarks, which
are literally what I said, comes close to fraud.
I have some experience in dealing with TV and print reporters
and do understand something of the ways in which one can be
misquoted, quoted out of context, or otherwise misinterpreted. Some
of that is inevitable in the press of time or space or in discussions of
complicated issues. Never before, however, have I had
an experience like this one. My appearance in the "Global Warming
Swindle" is deeply embarrasing, and my professional reputation
has been damaged. I was duped---an uncomfortable position in which to be.
At a minimum, I ask that the film should never be seen again publicly
with my participation included. Channel 4 surely owes an apology to
its viewers, and perhaps WAGTV owes something to Channel 4. I will be
taking advice as to whether I should proceed to make some more formal protest.
Sincerely,
Carl Wunsch
Cecil and Ida Green Professor of
?? Physical Oceanography
Massachusetts Institute of Technology
cc: Hamish Mykura, Channel 4
(Hard copy to follow)The fossil fuels lobby would love to make this about Al Gore instead of
about global warming. Because then anyone who doesn't happen like Al
Gore might be more inclined to buy their spin.
If you don't happen to like Al Gore, check out the actual science. Try
and avoid the spin from the fossil fuels lobby if you can. Stick with
facts and assess the risks yourself.
Here are a couple of useful web sites:
http://www.realclimate.org/
http://www.ucsusa.org/global_warming/science/
Cheers,
-Jamie
www.JamieKrutz.com
Don Nafe wrote:
> The man who invented the internet wouldn't know a scientific fact if it was
> weighed down with 2000 lb weight and dropped on his chicken little head!
>
> DOn
>
> "Bill Lorentzen" <bill@lorentzen.ws> wrote in message news:460ec4f9@linux...
>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u6IPHmJWmDk&mode=related& amp;search=
>>
>> It's a British documentary showing another viewpoint about global warming
>> and CO2. It's a viewpoint that is different from that of the man who
>> invented the internet...
>>
>
>It's a viewpoint that ignores the main body of peer-reviewed scientific
evidence for the sake of sensationalism. It was done that way
deliberately by the producers, with no attempt at an objective look at
the actual scientific evidence.
Google it to check out the story behind it. Fair and balanced it ain't.
I do like the breathless announcer, fast cuts and dramatic music. It's
always fun to see a one-sided polemic that ironically accuses others of
being one-sided. I doubt anyone here is gullible enough to take it as an
objective authority.
Cheers,
-Jamie
www.JamieKrutz.com
Bill Lorentzen wrote:
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u6IPHmJWmDk&mode=related& amp;search=
>
> It's a British documentary showing another viewpoint about global warming
> and CO2. It's a viewpoint that is different from that of the man who
> invented the internet...
>
>Here's something else from Carl:
http://www.royalsoc.ac.uk/page.asp?id=4688&tip=1
Read it and see how far his views diverge from Gore's and
despite the dispute over his appearance in the film, you will
see that Carl is not much on your side.
more
http://observer.guardian.co.uk/uk_news/story/0,,2031455,00.h tml
Here is a response to the smear campaign against the
movie from the filmaker himself. There is a direct response to
the point you raised.
http://www.nrsp.com/NRSP-Media/Audio_Wave/Martin%20Durkin-15 -03-07-Charles%20Adler.wav
DCGlobal warming is very real IMO.
Even the people in the fossil fuels business (me, for instance) know that
they produce sulphur based pollutants and C02. The only way, IMHO, to
explain away global warming is to explaining away the theory that C02
doesn't cause it. I ain't buying that one. Those who try to compare what is
happening now to what has happened in the past with climate change are
missing one serious fundamental.......never in the past have there been so
people on this planet burning so much carbon and never before have we had
the science to live as long as we do now, and for our spawn to survive the
in such staggering numbers. Also, if you stop and think about it, up until
50 years ago, we had major disease epidemics that culled the global
populations drastically and systematically and some pretty devastating wars
on a fairly regular basis that also culled the population, especially in
continental Europe and Asia, thus delaying the exponential population
explosion that we have seen over the last 30 years or so. In 1970, the world
population was 39 billion and change. right now it's estimated to exceed 67
billion. All of these folks are competing for and using vcarbon based energy
resources (and farting on a regular basis ;o).
The solutions we're proposing right now are too little too late (again IMO)
There are ways to reduce energy consumption but this will add to the costs
that none of us want to pay. At some point, diminishing returns will be
reached and alternative energy sources will start look more competitive. The
bigger problem is that the point of diminishing returns is quickly being
reached as far as global supply is concerned (yeah....that peak oil
voodoo...too bad it's as real as the day is long). This is already the
driving factor in our effort to survive in the brave new global economy.
It's gonna be expensive no matter what though. We are already starting to
see the price of products based on corn as food to rise as the shift to
ethanol starts to ramp up. the only way to sustain anything like the economy
we have right now and become energy independent would be to build new
refineries here,, build coal fired power plants, nuclear energy and drill
every drop and bubble of oil and natural gas that we have here within our
continental soveriegnty while rolling huge amount of the revenue from the
sale of that to alternative energy R&D. Big problem there.......the energy
interests won't do it and the environmentalists won't do it so we're gonna
be hosed in 20 years, if not *much sooner*.
the real problem is that there are just too many of *us*. I think we're
getting ready so see some stuff right out of the worst imaginable horror
movie that the most twisted mind could dream up.
Mother nature has always had a way of levelling our karma and our doomsday
religiousity will do the rest. I've always believed that things happen if
enough energy is directed toward the particular end one is trying to
achieve. Well.........lots of folks believe that Armageddon is inevitable
and by god, it's our duty to make sure that it happens the *right* way so
that you go to hell and I don't.
shit!!!!....where'd I put my meds?
;oP
"Jamie K" <Meta@Dimensional.com> wrote in message news:460edd9e$1@linux...
>
> The fossil fuels lobby would love to make this about Al Gore instead of
> about global warming. Because then anyone who doesn't happen like Al Gore
> might be more inclined to buy their spin.
>
> If you don't happen to like Al Gore, check out the actual science. Try and
> avoid the spin from the fossil fuels lobby if you can. Stick with facts
> and assess the risks yourself.
>
> Here are a couple of useful web sites:
>
> http://www.realclimate.org/
>
> http://www.ucsusa.org/global_warming/science/
>
> Cheers,
> -Jamie
> www.JamieKrutz.com
>
>
> Don Nafe wrote:
>> The man who invented the internet wouldn't know a scientific fact if it
>> was weighed down with 2000 lb weight and dropped on his chicken little
>> head!
>>
>> DOn
>>
>> "Bill Lorentzen" <bill@lorentzen.ws> wrote in message
>> news:460ec4f9@linux...
>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u6IPHmJWmDk&mode=related& amp;search=
>>>
>>> It's a British documentary showing another viewpoint about global
>>> warming and CO2. It's a viewpoint that is different from that of the man
>>> who invented the internet...
>>>
>>I can’t argue with people who insist that 2 + 2 = 5, but I will always come
here and point out that the majority of mathematicians feel that 2 + 2 =
4.
Breast implants reduce cancer. I love it.
You should read a little about Martin Durkin, the man you are defending.Gene,
No matter what we say to each other here, the whole thing
is out of our hands. What troubles me is that we who grew
up in the 1960's learned to rebel against Nixon, but we drew
the line at Gore and Hillary didn't we? How did we get so
many sacred cows?
What if these scientists are right?
Remember,
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Mon, 19 February 2007 17:40 |
Chris Ludwig
Messages: 868
Registered: May 2006
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Senior Member |
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;>>
>>> DOn
>>>
>>> "Bill Lorentzen" <bill@lorentzen.ws> wrote in message
>>> news:460ec4f9@linux...
>>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u6IPHmJWmDk&mode=related& amp;search=
>>>>
>>>> It's a British documentary showing another viewpoint about global
>>>> warming and CO2. It's a viewpoint that is different from that of the man
>>>> who invented the internet...
>>>>
>As in Winamp Justin Frankel? I wondered what happened to that dude.
AA
"Chris Ludwig" <chrisl@adkproaudio.com> wrote in message
news:460f17ef@linux...
> Hi James,
> Ha actually his name is Justin. Frankel. It will probably go up it price
> at some time or another but even if it doubles it is still a bargain and
> still worth every penny.
> It makes me chuckle when I think how much Saw Studio is and how little if
> offers. The only other program that I've seen that runs this well at very
> low latencies is Samplitude.
> Also it is the only program I've seen so far and will properly address 8
> cores on a Xeon.
>
> There is a Reaper user named Jason who contributes allot to the Reaper
> forums and such and people always confuse em.
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Justin_Frankel
>
> Chris
>
>
>
> James McCloskey wrote:
>> Chris Ludwig <chrisl@adkproaudio.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi James,
>>> Its still more of a alpha version. It's gotta a while to go before it
>>> works the same as the PC version. I think he might be trying to get them
>>>
>>
>>
>>> both be in sink with the 2.0 versions.
>>>
>>>
>>> Chris
>>>
>>
>> If This guy Jason keeps developing Reaper, and keeps the price the same,
>> all the other companies are going to have problems competing. Who is
>> going
>> to want to pay a thousand dollars when you can buy Reaper for $39.00?
>>
>> His development for Mac OSX seems to be rapid.
>>
>> Now , if we could only get him to develop Reaper for Paris.....I Know,
>> Shut
>> up.
>>
>> James
>>
>>> James McCloskey wrote:
>>>
>>>> Are any of you mac guys playing with the bata of REAPER?
>>>>
>>>> Reaper Forum about REAPER.
>>>> http://www.cockos.com/forum/showthread.php?t=4220
>>>>
>>>> Here's the latest Mac OSX version:
>>>> http://reaper.fm/files/reaperosx-0.15U.dmg
>>>>
>>> --
>>> Chris Ludwig
>>> ADK
>>> chrisl@adkproaudio.com <mailto:chrisl@adkproaudio.com>
>>> www.adkproaudio.com <http://www.adkproaudio.com/>
>>> (859) 635-5762
>>>
>>
>>
>
> --
> Chris Ludwig
> ADK
> chrisl@adkproaudio.com <mailto:chrisl@adkproaudio.com>
> www.adkproaudio.com <http://www.adkproaudio.com/>
> (859) 635-5762Yeah, I just got the names mixed up.
Chris Ludwig <chrisl@adkproaudio.com> wrote:
>Hi James,
> Ha actually his name is Justin. Frankel. It will probably go up it
>price at some time or another but even if it doubles it is still a
>bargain and still worth every penny.
>It makes me chuckle when I think how much Saw Studio is and how little
>if offers. The only other program that I've seen that runs this well at
>very low latencies is Samplitude.
>Also it is the only program I've seen so far and will properly address 8
>cores on a Xeon.
>
>There is a Reaper user named Jason who contributes allot to the Reaper
>forums and such and people always confuse em.
>
>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Justin_Frankel
>
>Chris
>
>
>
>James McCloskey wrote:
>> Chris Ludwig <chrisl@adkproaudio.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi James,
>>> Its still more of a alpha version. It's gotta a while to go before it
>>> works the same as the PC version. I think he might be trying to get them
>>>
>>
>>
>>> both be in sink with the 2.0 versions.
>>>
>>>
>>> Chris
>>>
>>
>> If This guy Jason keeps developing Reaper, and keeps the price the same,
>> all the other companies are going to have problems competing. Who is
going
>> to want to pay a thousand dollars when you can buy Reaper for $39.00?
>>
>> His development for Mac OSX seems to be rapid.
>>
>> Now , if we could only get him to develop Reaper for Paris.....I Know,
Shut
>> up.
>>
>> James
>>
>>> James McCloskey wrote:
>>>
>>>> Are any of you mac guys playing with the bata of REAPER?
>>>>
>>>> Reaper Forum about REAPER.
>>>> http://www.cockos.com/forum/showthread.php?t=4220
>>>>
>>>> Here's the latest Mac OSX version:
>>>> http://reaper.fm/files/reaperosx-0.15U.dmg
>>>>
>>>>
>>> --
>>> Chris Ludwig
>>> ADK
>>> chrisl@adkproaudio.com <mailto:chrisl@adkproaudio.com>
>>> www.adkproaudio.com <http://www.adkproaudio.com/>
>>> (859) 635-5762
>>>
>>
>>
>
>--
>Chris Ludwig
>ADK
>chrisl@adkproaudio.com <mailto:chrisl@adkproaudio.com>
>www.adkproaudio.com <http://www.adkproaudio.com/>
>(859) 635-5762(applause)
Sarah :)
"DJ" <www.aarrrrggghhh!!!.com> wrote in message news:460ee646$1@linux...
> Global warming is very real IMO.
>
> Even the people in the fossil fuels business (me, for instance) know that
> they produce sulphur based pollutants and C02. The only way, IMHO, to
> explain away global warming is to explaining away the theory that C02
> doesn't cause it. I ain't buying that one. Those who try to compare what
> is happening now to what has happened in the past with climate change are
> missing one serious fundamental.......never in the past have there been
> so people on this planet burning so much carbon and never before have we
> had the science to live as long as we do now, and for our spawn to survive
> the in such staggering numbers. Also, if you stop and think about it, up
> until 50 years ago, we had major disease epidemics that culled the global
> populations drastically and systematically and some pretty devastating
> wars on a fairly regular basis that also culled the population, especially
> in continental Europe and Asia, thus delaying the exponential population
> explosion that we have seen over the last 30 years or so. In 1970, the
> world population was 39 billion and change. right now it's estimated to
> exceed 67 billion. All of these folks are competing for and using vcarbon
> based energy resources (and farting on a regular basis ;o).
>
> The solutions we're proposing right now are too little too late (again
> IMO) There are ways to reduce energy consumption but this will add to the
> costs that none of us want to pay. At some point, diminishing returns will
> be reached and alternative energy sources will start look more
> competitive. The bigger problem is that the point of diminishing returns
> is quickly being reached as far as global supply is concerned
> (yeah....that peak oil voodoo...too bad it's as real as the day is long).
> This is already the driving factor in our effort to survive in the brave
> new global economy. It's gonna be expensive no matter what though. We are
> already starting to see the price of products based on corn as food to
> rise as the shift to ethanol starts to ramp up. the only way to sustain
> anything like the economy we have right now and become energy independent
> would be to build new refineries here,, build coal fired power plants,
> nuclear energy and drill every drop and bubble of oil and natural gas that
> we have here within our continental soveriegnty while rolling huge amount
> of the revenue from the sale of that to alternative energy R&D. Big
> problem there.......the energy interests won't do it and the
> environmentalists won't do it so we're gonna be hosed in 20 years, if not
> *much sooner*.
>
> the real problem is that there are just too many of *us*. I think we're
> getting ready so see some stuff right out of the worst imaginable horror
> movie that the most twisted mind could dream up.
>
> Mother nature has always had a way of levelling our karma and our doomsday
> religiousity will do the rest. I've always believed that things happen if
> enough energy is directed toward the particular end one is trying to
> achieve. Well.........lots of folks believe that Armageddon is inevitable
> and by god, it's our duty to make sure that it happens the *right* way so
> that you go to hell and I don't.
>
> shit!!!!....where'd I put my meds?
>
> ;oP
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> "Jamie K" <Meta@Dimensional.com> wrote in message news:460edd9e$1@linux...
>>
>> The fossil fuels lobby would love to make this about Al Gore instead of
>> about global warming. Because then anyone who doesn't happen like Al Gore
>> might be more inclined to buy their spin.
>>
>> If you don't happen to like Al Gore, check out the actual science. Try
>> and avoid the spin from the fossil fuels lobby if you can. Stick with
>> facts and assess the risks yourself.
>>
>> Here are a couple of useful web sites:
>>
>> http://www.realclimate.org/
>>
>> http://www.ucsusa.org/global_warming/science/
>>
>> Cheers,
>> -Jamie
>> www.JamieKrutz.com
>>
>>
>> Don Nafe wrote:
>>> The man who invented the internet wouldn't know a scientific fact if it
>>> was weighed down with 2000 lb weight and dropped on his chicken little
>>> head!
>>>
>>> DOn
>>>
>>> "Bill Lorentzen" <bill@lorentzen.ws> wrote in message
>>> news:460ec4f9@linux...
>>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u6IPHmJWmDk&mode=related& amp;search=
>>>>
>>>> It's a British documentary showing another viewpoint about global
>>>> warming and CO2. It's a viewpoint that is different from that of the
>>>> man who invented the internet...
>>>>
>>>
>Yes, I believe your assumptions about being able to use your other stuff is
correct.
And to think Edmund has a OSX version of Paris that he won't release.
I've thought about it too gantt. Good luck!
James
"Gantt Kushner" <ganttmann@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>I've wondered about this here before, but I may be getting more serious
about
>it:
>
>I've been running Paris on a Mac G4, which means I'm stuck in OS 9. That
>means I can't use any of the newer Waves and UAD-1 plugins because they
only
>write their software for OS 10. So, if I switch to PC I'll be able to use
>the new plugins and hopefully will be rid of the intermitent weird noises
>I get w/ UAD-1 plugins.
>
>SO, can anyone give me an idea how much I'd have to spend to put together
>a rock solid state-of-the-current-art PC to run my audio stuff on? I'd
also
>need a new stereo editing/mastering program. What do you folks suggest?
> I assume I can still use my two Samsung LCD monitors and my Magma 13 slot
>expansion chassis. Can a PC network thru my Apple Airport system to get
>online, print, etc?
>
>Sorry for so many stupid questions. I am, indeed, a PC idiot!
>
>Gantt
>
>"Rod Lincoln" <rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com> wrote:
>>
>>XP home
>>rod
>>"Gantt Kushner" <ganttmann@comcast.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>DAMN! Another reason to think about switching platforms... What version
>>>of Windows are you using?
>>>
>>>gantt
>>>
>>>"Rod Lincoln" <rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>Running 4.5 here, on a PC with Paris. That's the latest, (except for
the
>>>latest
>>>>latest, with the Helios) with all the Neve stuff. Runs great.
>>>>Rod
>>>>"Gantt Kushner" <ganttmann@comcast.net> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>This raises a question that I've been wondering about for a while now
>>-
>>>>What
>>>>>is the most recent version of the UAD-1 FX you PC guys are able to use?
>>>>
>>>>>Can the Neve EQ's and comps run in Paris on PC? On Mac we're stuck
back
>>>>>in UAD-1 v.3.9.
>>>>>
>>>>>Gantt
>>>>>
>>>>>"Rod Lincoln" <rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Tom. I'd be real interested in what you find out. I'm tempted to buy
>>it
>>>>>before
>>>>>>the 31st (tomorrow) if it works, but if there's something that breaks
>>>it
>>>>>>in Paris, the...NOT.
>>>>>>Anyone else been able to use this in Paris on a PC???
>>>>>>Rod
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>i'll never have another beer brat again.
On Sat, 31 Mar 2007 08:44:39 -0600, "DJ" <www.aarrrrggghhh!!!.com>
wrote:oh yeah, what does the babe dispense?
On Sat, 31 Mar 2007 08:44:39 -0600, "DJ" <www.aarrrrggghhh!!!.com>
wrote:finality someone mentions global dimming as one of the mitigating
factors working against global warming. in areas where (solid
particulate pollution has been lessened is where the temperature
increase is greatest. areas where these controls are not being
implemented have stayed relatively cooler due to the 20-30% reduction
in sun hours.
On Sat, 31 Mar 2007 20:55:15 -0600, Jamie K <Meta@Dimensional.com>
wrote:
>
>DC wrote:
>> Remember, in the 1970's the same people were squealing
>> about global cooling.
>
>That's pretty funny, Don. Who were those "same people" and what speech
>impediment caused the "squealing" that you think we all remember?
>
>What I remember about the 70's is some pretty cool music.
>
>Anyway, here's some info on the stock mid century global cooling objection.
>
>From: http://gristmill.grist.org/story/2006/11/4/14560/6189
>
>"Objection: There was global cooling in the '40s, '50s, and '60s, even
>while human greenhouse-gas emissions were rising. Clearly, temperature
>is not being driven by CO2.
>
>Answer: None of the advocates of the theory of anthropogenic global
>warming claim that CO2 is the only factor controlling temperature in the
>ocean-atmosphere climate system. It is a large and complex system,
>responsive on many different timescales, subject to numerous forcings.
>AGW only makes the claim that CO2 is the primary driver of the warming
>trend seen over the last 100 years. This rise has not been smooth and
>steady -- nor would it be expected to be.
>
>(graphic, go look at the link to see it)
>
>If you look at the temperature record for the 1990s, you'll notice a
>sharp drop in '92, '93, and '94. This is the effect of massive amounts
>of SO2 ejected into the stratosphere by Mount Pinatubo's eruption. That
>doesn't mean CO2 took a holiday and stopped influencing global
>temperatures; it only means that the CO2 forcing was temporarily
>overwhelmed by another, opposite forcing.
>
>The situation is similar to the cooling seen in the '40s and '50s.
>During this period, the CO2 warming (a smaller forcing at the time) was
>temporarily overwhelmed by by other factors, perhaps foremost among them
>an increase in human particulates and aerosol pollution. Pollution
>regulations and improved technology saw a decrease in this latter kind
>of emissions over the '60s and '70s, and as the air cleared, the CO2
>signal again emerged and took over. Below, courtesy of Global Warming
>Art, is an image of the current understanding of the factors and their
>influence for the climate of the past century.
>
>(graphic)
>
>As the graph shows, in addition to aerosol pollution (the sulphate
>line), volcanic influences were increasingly negative during the period
>of global cooling, and solar forcing slightly declined. All forcings
>taken together and run through the model are a very good match for the
>observations. (Please see the source page for details of what model and
>what study this image is derived from.)
>
>Rather than confounding the climate consensus, mid-century cooling is
>actually a good test for the climate models, one they are passing quite
>convincingly.
>
>Addendum: The opposing effect of cooling from airborne pollutants is
>often referred to as "Global Dimming", and Real Climate has a couple of
>articles on it:
>
>Global Dimming?
>Global Dimming II
>One emerging concern is that as the pollution causing this effect is
>gradually cleaned up, we may see even greater greenhouse gas warming."
>
>
>
>Worse, the ice core evidence shows
>> that increases in carbon dioxide level historically follows warming
>> not precedes it. Carbon may not be the problem.
>
>That's unlikely.
>
>From: http://gristmill.grist.org/story/2006/12/22/231145/76
>
>"Objection: In glacial-interglacial cycles, CO2 concentration lags
>behind temperature by centuries. Clearly, CO2 does not cause
>temperatures to rise; temperatures cause CO2 to rise.
>
>Answer: When viewed coarsely, historical CO2 levels and temperature show
>a tight correlation. However, a closer examination of the CH4, CO2, and
>temperature fluctuations recorded in the Antarctic ice core records
>reveals that, yes, temperature moved first.
>
>Nevertheless, it is misleading to say that temperature rose and then,
>hundreds of years later, CO2 rose. These warming periods lasted for
>5,000 to 10,000 years (the cooling periods lasted more like 100,000
>years!), so for the majority of that time (90% and more), temperature
>and CO2 rose together. This remarkably detailed archive of
>climatological evidence clearly allows for CO2 acting as a cause for
>rising temperatures, while also revealing it can be an effect of them.
>
>(graphic)
>
>The current understanding of those cycles is that changes in orbital
>parameters (the Milankovich and other cycles) caused greater amounts of
>summer sunlight to fall in the northern hemisphere. This is a small
>forcing, but it caused ice to retreat in the north, which changed the
>albedo. This change -- reducing the amount of white, reflective ice
>surface -- led to further warmth, in a feedback effect. Some number of
>centuries after that process started, CO2 concentrations in the
>atmosphere began to rise, which amplified the warming trend even further
>as an additional feedback mechanism.
>
>(You can go here for a discussion of exactly this question by climate
>scientists, with greater technical detail and full references to the
>scientific literature.)
>
>So it is correct that CO2 did not trigger the warmings, but it
>definitely contributed to them -- and according to climate theory and
>model experiments, greenhouse gas forcing was the dominant factor in the
>magnitude of the ultimate change.
>
>This raises a warning for the future: we may well see additional natural
>CO2 come out of the woodwork as whatever process took place repeatedly
>over the last 650K years begins to play out again. The likely candidates
>are out-gassing from warming ocean waters, carbon from warming soils,
>and methane from melting permafrost."
>
>Cheers,
> -Jamie
> www.JamieKrutz.comJust so I've got this straight...according to the scientific data I am to
believe that the smallest portion of our atmosphere (less than 3%) is in
charge of our planet's temperature and that the sun, the oceans and cosmic
triggers have little or no effect on our climate...and that the warming and
cooling trends of the previous 600 million years on the earth don't matter
because humans weren't a factor in those changes.
Ok got it
Don
"Jamie K" <Meta@Dimensional.com> wrote in message news:460edf8a$1@linux...
>
> It's a viewpoint that ignores the main body of peer-reviewed scientific
> evidence for the sake of sensationalism. It was done that way deliberately
> by the producers, with no attempt at an objective look at the actual
> scientific evidence.
>
> Google it to check out the story behind it. Fair and balanced it ain't.
>
> I do like the breathless announcer, fast cuts and dramatic music. It's
> always fun to see a one-sided polemic that ironically accuses others of
> being one-sided. I doubt anyone here is gullible enough to take it as an
> objective authority.
>
> Cheers,
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| Re: Its a done deal... [message #80346 is a reply to message #80321] |
Mon, 19 February 2007 17:42 |
Chris Ludwig
Messages: 868
Registered: May 2006
|
Senior Member |
|
|
>
> -Jamie
> www.JamieKrutz.com
>
>
>
> Bill Lorentzen wrote:
>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u6IPHmJWmDk&mode=related& amp;search=
>>
>> It's a British documentary showing another viewpoint about global warming
>> and CO2. It's a viewpoint that is different from that of the man who
>> invented the internet...My wife has an HP laptop for work, running Windows XP Media and XP Pro. Are
there PCI expansion chassis that can make a laptop work w/ Paris? I've seen
questions about this, but I don't recall if anyone's tried it...
Thanks!
Gantt
"Gantt Kushner" <ganttmann@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>I've wondered about this here before, but I may be getting more serious
about
>it:
>
>I've been running Paris on a Mac G4, which means I'm stuck in OS 9. That
>means I can't use any of the newer Waves and UAD-1 plugins because they
only
>write their software for OS 10. So, if I switch to PC I'll be able to use
>the new plugins and hopefully will be rid of the intermitent weird noises
>I get w/ UAD-1 plugins.
>
>SO, can anyone give me an idea how much I'd have to spend to put together
>a rock solid state-of-the-current-art PC to run my audio stuff on? I'd
also
>need a new stereo editing/mastering program. What do you folks suggest?
> I assume I can still use my two Samsung LCD monitors and my Magma 13 slot
>expansion chassis. Can a PC network thru my Apple Airport system to get
>online, print, etc?
>
>Sorry for so many stupid questions. I am, indeed, a PC idiot!
>
>Gantt
>
>"Rod Lincoln" <rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com> wrote:
>>
>>XP home
>>rod
>>"Gantt Kushner" <ganttmann@comcast.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>DAMN! Another reason to think about switching platforms... What version
>>>of Windows are you using?
>>>
>>>gantt
>>>
>>>"Rod Lincoln" <rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>Running 4.5 here, on a PC with Paris. That's the latest, (except for
the
>>>latest
>>>>latest, with the Helios) with all the Neve stuff. Runs great.
>>>>Rod
>>>>"Gantt Kushner" <ganttmann@comcast.net> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>This raises a question that I've been wondering about for a while now
>>-
>>>>What
>>>>>is the most recent version of the UAD-1 FX you PC guys are able to use?
>>>>
>>>>>Can the Neve EQ's and comps run in Paris on PC? On Mac we're stuck
back
>>>>>in UAD-1 v.3.9.
>>>>>
>>>>>Gantt
>>>>>
>>>>>"Rod Lincoln" <rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Tom. I'd be real interested in what you find out. I'm tempted to buy
>>it
>>>>>before
>>>>>>the 31st (tomorrow) if it works, but if there's something that breaks
>>>it
>>>>>>in Paris, the...NOT.
>>>>>>Anyone else been able to use this in Paris on a PC???
>>>>>>Rod
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>Hi Gantt,
They can but it is very dependent on the chipset used on the cardbus
controller.
Unless you stumble across a chassis used on EBay you might as well just
buy a desktop to do the Paris thing.
Magma and other units go for $1500 plus when New.
There are no motherboards that are currently being made that AFAIK have
been fully tested with Paris hardware.
Most everyone is using stuff from a bout 2 years ago.
The GigabyteK8NS - Ultra-939 that has a AMD X2 CPU works well for DJ.
That is probably the newest board you will find and it is only available
used of refurb at this point.
Also anything brand new will have at most 3 PCI slots. The rest are
PCI-e. So if you have a more than 2 card Paris system your SOL.
Chris
Gantt Kushner wrote:
> My wife has an HP laptop for work, running Windows XP Media and XP Pro. Are
> there PCI expansion chassis that can make a laptop work w/ Paris? I've seen
> questions about this, but I don't recall if anyone's tried it...
>
> Thanks!
>
> Gantt
>
> "Gantt Kushner" <ganttmann@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>> I've wondered about this here before, but I may be getting more serious
>>
> about
>
>> it:
>>
>> I've been running Paris on a Mac G4, which means I'm stuck in OS 9. That
>> means I can't use any of the newer Waves and UAD-1 plugins because they
>>
> only
>
>> write their software for OS 10. So, if I switch to PC I'll be able to use
>> the new plugins and hopefully will be rid of the intermitent weird noises
>> I get w/ UAD-1 plugins.
>>
>> SO, can anyone give me an idea how much I'd have to spend to put together
>> a rock solid state-of-the-current-art PC to run my audio stuff on? I'd
>>
> also
>
>> need a new stereo editing/mastering program. What do you folks suggest?
>> I assume I can still use my two Samsung LCD monitors and my Magma 13 slot
>> expansion chassis. Can a PC network thru my Apple Airport system to get
>> online, print, etc?
>>
>> Sorry for so many stupid questions. I am, indeed, a PC idiot!
>>
>> Gantt
>>
>> "Rod Lincoln" <rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com> wrote:
>>
>>> XP home
>>> rod
>>> "Gantt Kushner" <ganttmann@comcast.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>> DAMN! Another reason to think about switching platforms... What version
>>>> of Windows are you using?
>>>>
>>>> gantt
>>>>
>>>> "Rod Lincoln" <rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Running 4.5 here, on a PC with Paris. That's the latest, (except for
>>>>>
> the
>
>>>> latest
>>>>
>>>>> latest, with the Helios) with all the Neve stuff. Runs great.
>>>>> Rod
>>>>> "Gantt Kushner" <ganttmann@comcast.net> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> This raises a question that I've been wondering about for a while now
>>>>>>
>>> -
>>>
>>>>> What
>>>>>
>>>>>> is the most recent version of the UAD-1 FX you PC guys are able to use?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Can the Neve EQ's and comps run in Paris on PC? On Mac we're stuck
>>>>>>
> back
>
>>>>>> in UAD-1 v.3.9.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Gantt
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "Rod Lincoln" <rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Tom. I'd be real interested in what you find out. I'm tempted to buy
>>>>>>>
>>> it
>>>
>>>>>> before
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> the 31st (tomorrow) if it works, but if there's something that breaks
>>>>>>>
>>>> it
>>>>
>>>>>>> in Paris, the...NOT.
>>>>>>> Anyone else been able to use this in Paris on a PC???
>>>>>>> Rod
>>>>>>>
>
>
--
Chris Ludwig
ADK
chrisl@adkproaudio.com <mailto:chrisl@adkproaudio.com>
www.adkproaudio.com <http://www.adkproaudio.com/>
(859) 635-5762Hi Chris,
I have a Magma 13 slot PCI expander already, so, assuming I can put together
a machine that's compatible, PCI slots are not an issue. Forgive me if
this question seems stupid - Is building/selling/fixing computers what you
do?
Thanks!
Gantt
Chris Ludwig <chrisl@adkproaudio.com> wrote:
>Hi Gantt,
>They can but it is very dependent on the chipset used on the cardbus
>controller.
>
>Unless you stumble across a chassis used on EBay you might as well just
>buy a desktop to do the Paris thing.
>Magma and other units go for $1500 plus when New.
>
>There are no motherboards that are currently being made that AFAIK have
>been fully tested with Paris hardware.
>
>Most everyone is using stuff from a bout 2 years ago.
>
>The GigabyteK8NS - Ultra-939 that has a AMD X2 CPU works well for DJ.
>That is probably the newest board you will find and it is only available
>used of refurb at this point.
>
>Also anything brand new will have at most 3 PCI slots. The rest are
>PCI-e. So if you have a more than 2 card Paris system your SOL.
>
>
>Chris
>
>
>Gantt Kushner wrote:
>> My wife has an HP laptop for work, running Windows XP Media and XP Pro.
Are
>> there PCI expansion chassis that can make a laptop work w/ Paris? I've
seen
>> questions about this, but I don't recall if anyone's tried it...
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
>> Gantt
>>
>> "Gantt Kushner" <ganttmann@comcast.net> wrote:
>>
>>> I've wondered about this here before, but I may be getting more serious
>>>
>> about
>>
>>> it:
>>>
>>> I've been running Paris on a Mac G4, which means I'm stuck in OS 9.
That
>>> means I can't use any of the newer Waves and UAD-1 plugins because they
>>>
>> only
>>
>>> write their software for OS 10. So, if I switch to PC I'll be able to
use
>>> the new plugins and hopefully will be rid of the intermitent weird noises
>>> I get w/ UAD-1 plugins.
>>>
>>> SO, can anyone give me an idea how much I'd have to spend to put together
>>> a rock solid state-of-the-current-art PC to run my audio stuff on? I'd
>>>
>> also
>>
>>> need a new stereo editing/mastering program. What do you folks suggest?
>>> I assume I can still use my two Samsung LCD monitors and my Magma 13
slot
>>> expansion chassis. Can a PC network thru my Apple Airport system to
get
>>> online, print, etc?
>>>
>>> Sorry for so many stupid questions. I am, indeed, a PC idiot!
>>>
>>> Gantt
>>>
>>> "Rod Lincoln" <rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> XP home
>>>> rod
>>>> "Gantt Kushner" <ganttmann@comcast.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> DAMN! Another reason to think about switching platforms... What
version
>>>>> of Windows are you using?
>>>>>
>>>>> gantt
>>>>>
>>>>> "Rod Lincoln" <rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Running 4.5 here, on a PC with Paris. That's the latest, (except for
>>>>>>
>> the
>>
>>>>> latest
>>>>>
>>>>>> latest, with the Helios) with all the Neve stuff. Runs great.
>>>>>> Rod
>>>>>> "Gantt Kushner" <ganttmann@comcast.net> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> This raises a question that I've been wondering about for a while
now
>>>>>>>
>>>> -
>>>>
>>>>>> What
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> is the most recent version of the UAD-1 FX you PC guys are able to
use?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Can the Neve EQ's and comps run in Paris on PC? On Mac we're stuck
>>>>>>>
>> back
>>
>>>>>>> in UAD-1 v.3.9.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Gantt
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "Rod Lincoln" <rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Tom. I'd be real interested in what you find out. I'm tempted to
buy
>>>>>>>>
>>>> it
>>>>
>>>>>>> before
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> the 31st (tomorrow) if it works, but if there's something that breaks
>>>>>>>>
>>>>> it
>>>>>
>>>>>>>> in Paris, the...NOT.
>>>>>>>> Anyone else been able to use this in Paris on a PC???
>>>>>>>> Rod
>>>>>>>>
>>
>>
>
>--
>Chris Ludwig
>ADK
>chrisl@adkproaudio.com <mailto:chrisl@adkproaudio.com>
>www.adkproaudio.com <http://www.adkproaudio.com/>
>(859) 635-5762There's lots of stuff I can't talk about because of my job, but this is a
very good book that says some of the same things but draws slightly different
conclusions.
http://www.amazon.com/Thousand-Barrels-Second-Challenges-Dep endent/dp/0071468749
I met the author and had a long discussion with him, and he knows his shit.
TCB
P.S. The _only_ good thing that just might possibly come out of our current
middle eastern meddling is that if we do start a war with Iran, and they
do choke off the oil tankers, and gas does go to $15 per gallon it will be
a hell of a spank on the US economy but we might finally get serious about
conservation. And I don't see Iran going gentle into the night, they call
that piece of water the 'Persian Gulf' for a reason. Anyway, that's a good
book.
"DJ" <www.aarrrrggghhh!!!.com> wrote:
>Global warming is very real IMO.
>
>Even the people in the fossil fuels business (me, for instance) know that
>they produce sulphur based pollutants and C02. The only way, IMHO, to
>explain away global warming is to explaining away the theory that C02
>doesn't cause it. I ain't buying that one. Those who try to compare what
is
>happening now to what has happened in the past with climate change are
>missing one serious fundamental.......never in the past have there been
so
>people on this planet burning so much carbon and never before have we had
>the science to live as long as we do now, and for our spawn to survive the
>in such staggering numbers. Also, if you stop and think about it, up until
>50 years ago, we had major disease epidemics that culled the global
>populations drastically and systematically and some pretty devastating wars
>on a fairly regular basis that also culled the population, especially in
>continental Europe and Asia, thus delaying the exponential population
>explosion that we have seen over the last 30 years or so. In 1970, the world
>population was 39 billion and change. right now it's estimated to exceed
67
>billion. All of these folks are competing for and using vcarbon based energy
>resources (and farting on a regular basis ;o).
>
>The solutions we're proposing right now are too little too late (again IMO)
>There are ways to reduce energy consumption but this will add to the costs
>that none of us want to pay. At some point, diminishing returns will be
>reached and alternative energy sources will start look more competitive.
The
>bigger problem is that the point of diminishing returns is quickly being
>reached as far as global supply is concerned (yeah....that peak oil
>voodoo...too bad it's as real as the day is long). This is already the
>driving factor in our effort to survive in the brave new global economy.
>It's gonna be expensive no matter what though. We are already starting to
>see the price of products based on corn as food to rise as the shift to
>ethanol starts to ramp up. the only way to sustain anything like the economy
>we have right now and become energy independent would be to build new
>refineries here,, build coal fired power plants, nuclear energy and drill
>every drop and bubble of oil and natural gas that we have here within our
>continental soveriegnty while rolling huge amount of the revenue from the
>sale of that to alternative energy R&D. Big problem there.......the energy
>interests won't do it and the environmentalists won't do it so we're gonna
>be hosed in 20 years, if not *much sooner*.
>
>the real problem is that there are just too many of *us*. I think we're
>getting ready so see some stuff right out of the worst imaginable horror
>movie that the most twisted mind could dream up.
>
>Mother nature has always had a way of levelling our karma and our doomsday
>religiousity will do the rest. I've always believed that things happen if
>enough energy is directed toward the particular end one is trying to
>achieve. Well.........lots of folks believe that Armageddon is inevitable
>and by god, it's our duty to make sure that it happens the *right* way so
>that you go to hell and I don't.
>
>shit!!!!....where'd I put my meds?
>
>;oP
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>"Jamie K" <Meta@Dimensional.com> wrote in message news:460edd9e$1@linux...
>>
>> The fossil fuels lobby would love to make this about Al Gore instead of
>> about global warming. Because then anyone who doesn't happen like Al Gore
>> might be more inclined to buy their spin.
>>
>> If you don't happen to like Al Gore, check out the actual science. Try
and
>> avoid the spin from the fossil fuels lobby if you can. Stick with facts
>> and assess the risks yourself.
>>
>> Here are a couple of useful web sites:
>>
>> http://www.realclimate.org/
>>
>> http://www.ucsusa.org/global_warming/science/
>>
>> Cheers,
>> -Jamie
>> www.JamieKrutz.com
>>
>>
>> Don Nafe wrote:
>>> The man who invented the internet wouldn't know a scientific fact if
it
>>> was weighed down with 2000 lb weight and dropped on his chicken little
>>> head!
>>>
>>> DOn
>>>
>>> "Bill Lorentzen" <bill@lorentzen.ws> wrote in message
>>> news:460ec4f9@linux...
>>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u6IPHmJWmDk&mode=related& amp;search=
>>>>
>>>> It's a British documentary showing another viewpoint about global
>>>> warming and CO2. It's a viewpoint that is different from that of the
man
>>>> who invented the internet...
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Gantt,
Chris IS THE MAN when it comes to this. Have him build it
for you if he will. He makes everything work like it should.
He works at ADK.
http://www.adkproaudio.com/
For Paris you'll want him to build something that isn't listed on
the ADK list.
Tom
"Gantt Kushner" <ganttmann@comcast.net> wrote in message =
news:460fc42d$1@linux...
Hi Chris,
I have a Magma 13 slot PCI expander already, so, assuming I can put =
together
a machine that's compatible, PCI slots are not an issue. Forgive me =
if
this question seems stupid - Is building/selling/fixing computers what =
you
do?
Thanks!
Gantt
Chris Ludwig <chrisl@adkproaudio.com> wrote:
>Hi Gantt,
>They can but it is very dependent on the chipset used on the cardbus=20
>controller.
>
>Unless you stumble across a chassis used on EBay you might as well =
just
>buy a desktop to do the Paris thing.
>Magma and other units go for $1500 plus when New.
>
>There are no motherboards that are currently being made that AFAIK =
have
>been fully tested with Paris hardware.
>
>Most everyone is using stuff from a bout 2 years ago.
>
>The GigabyteK8NS - Ultra-939 that has a AMD X2 CPU works well for =
DJ.=20
>That is probably the newest board you will find and it is only =
available
>used of refurb at this point.
>
>Also anything brand new will have at most 3 PCI slots. The rest are=20
>PCI-e. So if you have a more than 2 card Paris system your SOL.
>
>
>Chris
>
>
>Gantt Kushner wrote:
>> My wife has an HP laptop for work, running Windows XP Media and XP =
Pro.
Are
>> there PCI expansion chassis that can make a laptop work w/ Paris? =
I've
seen
>> questions about this, but I don't recall if anyone's tried it...
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
>> Gantt
>>
>> "Gantt Kushner" <ganttmann&
|
|
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Mon, 19 February 2007 19:15 |
TCB
Messages: 1261
Registered: July 2007
|
Senior Member |
|
|
target="_blank">rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com> wrote:
>>>>> =20
>>>>>> Running 4.5 here, on a PC with Paris. That's the latest, =
(except for
>>>>>> =20
>> the
>> =20
>>>>> latest
>>>>> =20
>>>>>> latest, with the Helios) with all the Neve stuff. Runs great.
>>>>>> Rod
>>>>>> "Gantt Kushner" <ganttmann@comcast.net> wrote:
>>>>>> =20
>>>>>>> This raises a question that I've been wondering about for a =
while
now
>>>>>>> =20
>>>> -
>>>> =20
>>>>>> What
>>>>>> =20
>>>>>>> is the most recent version of the UAD-1 FX you PC guys are =
able to
use?
>>>>>>> =20
>>>>>>> Can the Neve EQ's and comps run in Paris on PC? On Mac we're =
stuck
>>>>>>> =20
>> back
>> =20
>>>>>>> in UAD-1 v.3.9.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Gantt
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "Rod Lincoln" <rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> =20
>>>>>>>> Tom. I'd be real interested in what you find out. I'm tempted =
to
buy
>>>>>>>> =20
>>>> it
>>>> =20
>>>>>>> before
>>>>>>> =20
>>>>>>>> the 31st (tomorrow) if it works, but if there's something =
that breaks
>>>>>>>> =20
>>>>> it
>>>>> =20
>>>>>>>> in Paris, the...NOT.
>>>>>>>> Anyone else been able to use this in Paris on a PC???
>>>>>>>> Rod
>>>>>>>> =20
>>
>> =20
>
>--=20
>Chris Ludwig
>ADK
>chrisl@adkproaudio.com <mailto:chrisl@adkproaudio.com>
>www.adkproaudio.com <http://www.adkproaudio.com/>
>(859) 635-5762
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Gantt,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Chris IS THE MAN when it comes to =
this. Have=20
him build it</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>for you if he will. He makes =
everything work=20
like it should.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>He works at ADK.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><A=20
href=3D"http://www.adkproaudio.com/">http://www.adkproaudio.com/</A></FON=
T></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>For Paris you'll want him to build =
something that=20
isn't listed on</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>the ADK list.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Tom</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
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<BLOCKQUOTE=20
style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =
BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
<DIV>"Gantt Kushner" <<A=20
href=3D"mailto:ganttmann@comcast.net">ganttmann@comcast.net</A>> =
wrote in=20
message <A=20
=
href=3D"news:460fc42d$1@linux">news:460fc42d$1@linux</A>...</DIV><BR>Hi=20
Chris,<BR><BR>I have a Magma 13 slot PCI expander already, so, =
assuming I can=20
put together<BR>a machine that's compatible, PCI slots are not an=20
issue. Forgive me if<BR>this question seems stupid - Is=20
building/selling/fixing computers what=20
you<BR>do?<BR><BR>Thanks!<BR><BR>Gantt<BR><BR>Chris Ludwig <<A=20
href=3D"mailto:chrisl@adkproaudio.com">chrisl@adkproaudio.com</A>>=20
wrote:<BR>>Hi Gantt,<BR>>They can but it is very dependent on =
the=20
chipset used on the cardbus <BR>>controller.<BR>><BR>>Unless =
you=20
stumble across a chassis used on EBay you might as well =
just<BR><BR>>buy a=20
desktop to do the Paris thing.<BR>>Magma and other units go for =
$1500 plus=20
when New.<BR>><BR>>There are no motherboards that are currently =
being=20
made that AFAIK have<BR><BR>>been fully tested with Paris=20
hardware.<BR>><BR>>Most everyone is using stuff from a bout 2 =
years=20
ago.<BR>><BR>>The GigabyteK8NS - Ultra-939 that has a AMD =
X2 CPU=20
works well for DJ. <BR>>That is probably the newest board you will =
find and=20
it is only available<BR><BR>>used of refurb at this=20
point.<BR>><BR>>Also anything brand new will have at most 3 PCI =
slots.=20
The rest are <BR>>PCI-e. So if you have a more than 2 card Paris =
system=20
your SOL.<BR>><BR>><BR>>Chris<BR>> <BR>><BR>>Gantt =
Kushner=20
wrote:<BR>>> My wife has an HP laptop for work, running Windows =
XP Media=20
and XP Pro.<BR> Are<BR>>> there PCI expansion chassis that =
can make=20
a laptop work w/ Paris? I've<BR>seen<BR>>> questions about =
this,=20
but I don't recall if anyone's tried it...<BR>>><BR>>>=20
Thanks!<BR>>><BR>>> Gantt<BR>>><BR>>> "Gantt =
Kushner"=20
<<A =
href=3D"mailto:ganttmann@comcast.net">ganttmann@comcast.net</A>>=20
wrote:<BR>>> <BR>>>> I've wondered about =
this here=20
before, but I may be getting more=20
serious<BR> >>> &n bsp; <BR>>>=20
about<BR>>> <BR>>>> it: =20
<BR>>>><BR>>>> I've been running Paris on a Mac G4, =
which=20
means I'm stuck in OS 9. <BR>That<BR>>>> means I can't use =
any of the=20
newer Waves and UAD-1 plugins because=20
they<BR> >>> &n bsp; <BR>>>=20
only<BR>>> <BR>>>> write their software for =
OS 10.=20
So, if I switch to PC I'll be able to<BR>use<BR>>>> the new =
plugins=20
and hopefully will be rid of the intermitent weird =
noises<BR>>>> I=20
get w/ UAD-1 plugins. <BR>>>><BR>>>> SO, can =
anyone=20
give me an idea how much I'd have to spend to put =
together<BR>>>> a=20
rock solid state-of-the-current-art PC to run my audio stuff on? =
I'd<BR> >>> &n bsp; <BR>>>=20
also<BR>>> <BR>>>> need a new stereo=20
editing/mastering program. What do you folks =20
suggest?<BR>>>> I assume I can still use my two Samsung LCD =
monitors=20
and my Magma 13<BR>slot<BR>>>> expansion chassis. Can a =
PC=20
network thru my Apple Airport system to<BR>get<BR>>>> online, =
print,=20
etc?<BR>>>><BR>>>> Sorry for so many stupid =
questions. =20
I am, indeed, a PC idiot!<BR>>>><BR>>>>=20
Gantt<BR>>>><BR>>>> "Rod Lincoln" <<A=20
=
href=3D"mailto:rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com">rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com</A>&g=
t;=20
wrote:<BR> >>> &n bsp; <BR>>>>> XP =
home=20
<BR>>>>> rod<BR>>>>> "Gantt Kushner" <<A=20
href=3D"mailto:ganttmann@comcast.net">ganttmann@comcast.net</A>>=20
wrote:<BR> >>>> &nbs p; =20
<BR>>>>>> DAMN! Another reason to think =
about =20
switching platforms... What<BR>version<BR>>>>>> =
of=20
Windows are you using?<BR>>>>>><BR>>>>>> =
gantt<BR>>>>>><BR>>>>>> "Rod Lincoln" =
<<A=20
=
href=3D"mailto:rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com">rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com</A>&g=
t;=20
=
wrote:<BR> >>>>> &=
nbsp;=20
<BR>>>>>>> Running 4.5 here, on a PC with Paris. =
That's the=20
latest, (except=20
=
for<BR> >>>>>> &a mp;nbsp; =
=20
<BR>>> the<BR>>> <BR>>>>>>=20
=
latest<BR> >>>>> &=
nbsp;=20
<BR>>>>>>> latest, with the Helios) with all the =
Neve stuff.=20
Runs great.<BR>>>>>>> =
Rod<BR>>>>>>> "Gantt=20
Kushner" <<A=20
href=3D"mailto:ganttmann@comcast.net">ganttmann@comcast.net</A>>=20
=
wrote:<BR> >>>>>> &a mp;nbsp; &nb=
sp; =20
<BR>>>>>>>> This raises a question that I've been =
wondering about for a=20
=
while<BR>now<BR> >>>>>>>& ;nbsp;  =
;   ; =20
<BR>>>>> =
-<BR> >>>> &nbs p; =20
<BR>>>>>>>=20
=
What<BR> >>>>>> &a mp;nbsp;  =
; =20
<BR>>>>>>>> is the most recent version of the =
UAD-1 FX=20
you PC guys are able=20
=
to<BR>use?<BR> >>>>>>>& ;nbsp; &=
nbsp; & nbsp;=20
<BR>>>>>>>> Can the Neve EQ's and comps run in =
Paris on=20
PC? On Mac we're=20
=
stuck<BR> >>>>>>>& ;nbsp; =
=20
<BR>>> back<BR>>> =
<BR>>>>>>>> in=20
UAD-1 =
v.3.9.<BR>>>>>>>> <BR>>>>>>>>=20
Gantt<BR>>>>>>>> <BR>>>>>>>> =
"Rod=20
Lincoln" <<A=20
=
href=3D"mailto:rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com">rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com</A>&g=
t;=20
=
wrote:<BR> >>>>>>>& ;nbsp;  =
;   ;=20
<BR> >>>>>>>& ;gt; Tom. I'd be real interested in =
what you=20
find out. I'm tempted=20
=
to<BR>buy<BR> >>>>>>>& ;gt; &nbs=
p; &nbs p; =20
<BR>>>>>=20
it<BR> >>>> &nbs p; =20
<BR>>>>>>>>=20
=
before<BR> >>>>>>>& ;nbsp;  =
;   ;=20
<BR> >>>>>>>& ;gt; the 31st (tomorrow) if it works, =
but if=20
there's something that=20
=
breaks<BR> >>>>>>>& ;gt; &=
nbsp; & nbsp; =20
<BR>>>>>>=20
=
it<BR> >>>>>  =
;=20
<BR> >>>>>>>& ;gt; in Paris,=20
the...NOT.<BR> >>>>>>>& ;gt; Anyone else been able =
to use=20
this in Paris on a PC???<BR> >>>>>>>& ;gt;=20
=
Rod<BR> >>>>>>>& ;gt; &n bs=
p; &nbs p; =20
<BR>>><BR>>> <BR>><BR>>-- <BR>>Chris=20
Ludwig<BR>>ADK<BR>>chrisl@adkproaudio.com <<A=20
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gt;<BR>>www.adkproaudio.com=20
<<A=20
=
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------=_NextPart_000_0026_01C77457.2F4ADA80--Chris,
I never did use the K8NSU 939 with Paris. The Aussie Kims both use these
with Paris however with AMD 64 3700 single core CPU's.
I had great luck with the ASUS A7V8X mobo and an AMD XP 2800 CPU for 3
years. I'm sure you could go to an XP 3000 CPU with this mobo.
Deej
"Gantt Kushner" <ganttmann@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:460fc42d$1@linux...
>
> Hi Chris,
&
|
|
|
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| Re: Its a done deal... [message #80351 is a reply to message #80348] |
Mon, 19 February 2007 20:46 |
Chris Ludwig
Messages: 868
Registered: May 2006
|
Senior Member |
|
|
wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> DAMN! Another reason to think about switching platforms... What
> version
>>>>>> of Windows are you using?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> gantt
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "Rod Lincoln" <rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Running 4.5 here, on a PC with Paris. That's the latest, (except for
>>>>>>>
>>> the
>>>
>>>>>> latest
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> latest, with the Helios) with all the Neve stuff. Runs great.
>>>>>>> Rod
>>>>>>> "Gantt Kushner" <ganttmann@comcast.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> This raises a question that I've been wondering about for a while
> now
>>>>>>>>
>>>>> -
>>>>>
>>>>>>> What
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> is the most recent version of the UAD-1 FX you PC guys are able to
> use?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Can the Neve EQ's and comps run in Paris on PC? On Mac we're stuck
>>>>>>>>
>>> back
>>>
>>>>>>>> in UAD-1 v.3.9.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Gantt
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> "Rod Lincoln" <rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Tom. I'd be real interested in what you find out. I'm tempted to
> buy
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> it
>>>>>
>>>>>>>> before
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> the 31st (tomorrow) if it works, but if there's something that
>>>>>>>>> breaks
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>> it
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> in Paris, the...NOT.
>>>>>>>>> Anyone else been able to use this in Paris on a PC???
>>>>>>>>> Rod
>>>>>>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>--
>>Chris Ludwig
>>ADK
>>chrisl@adkproaudio.com <mailto:chrisl@adkproaudio.com>
>>www.adkproaudio.com <http://www.adkproaudio.com/>
>>(859) 635-5762
>Hi Chris,
They say you're the man for building PCs... I'd love to discuss building
a machine that'll run Paris w/ my Magma expansion chassis. Feel free to
email me directly - ganttmann@comcast.net.
Thanks!
Gantt
Chris Ludwig <chrisl@adkproaudio.com> wrote:
>Hi Gantt,
>They can but it is very dependent on the chipset used on the cardbus
>controller.
>
>Unless you stumble across a chassis used on EBay you might as well just
>buy a desktop to do the Paris thing.
>Magma and other units go for $1500 plus when New.
>
>There are no motherboards that are currently being made that AFAIK have
>been fully tested with Paris hardware.
>
>Most everyone is using stuff from a bout 2 years ago.
>
>The GigabyteK8NS - Ultra-939 that has a AMD X2 CPU works well for DJ.
>That is probably the newest board you will find and it is only available
>used of refurb at this point.
>
>Also anything brand new will have at most 3 PCI slots. The rest are
>PCI-e. So if you have a more than 2 card Paris system your SOL.
>
>
>Chris
>
>
>Gantt Kushner wrote:
>> My wife has an HP laptop for work, running Windows XP Media and XP Pro.
Are
>> there PCI expansion chassis that can make a laptop work w/ Paris? I've
seen
>> questions about this, but I don't recall if anyone's tried it...
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
>> Gantt
>>
>> "Gantt Kushner" <ganttmann@comcast.net> wrote:
>>
>>> I've wondered about this here before, but I may be getting more serious
>>>
>> about
>>
>>> it:
>>>
>>> I've been running Paris on a Mac G4, which means I'm stuck in OS 9.
That
>>> means I can't use any of the newer Waves and UAD-1 plugins because they
>>>
>> only
>>
>>> write their software for OS 10. So, if I switch to PC I'll be able to
use
>>> the new plugins and hopefully will be rid of the intermitent weird noises
>>> I get w/ UAD-1 plugins.
>>>
>>> SO, can anyone give me an idea how much I'd have to spend to put together
>>> a rock solid state-of-the-current-art PC to run my audio stuff on? I'd
>>>
>> also
>>
>>> need a new stereo editing/mastering program. What do you folks suggest?
>>> I assume I can still use my two Samsung LCD monitors and my Magma 13
slot
>>> expansion chassis. Can a PC network thru my Apple Airport system to
get
>>> online, print, etc?
>>>
>>> Sorry for so many stupid questions. I am, indeed, a PC idiot!
>>>
>>> Gantt
>>>
>>> "Rod Lincoln" <rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> XP home
>>>> rod
>>>> "Gantt Kushner" <ganttmann@comcast.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> DAMN! Another reason to think about switching platforms... What
version
>>>>> of Windows are you using?
>>>>>
>>>>> gantt
>>>>>
>>>>> "Rod Lincoln" <rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Running 4.5 here, on a PC with Paris. That's the latest, (except for
>>>>>>
>> the
>>
>>>>> latest
>>>>>
>>>>>> latest, with the Helios) with all the Neve stuff. Runs great.
>>>>>> Rod
>>>>>> "Gantt Kushner" <ganttmann@comcast.net> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> This raises a question that I've been wondering about for a while
now
>>>>>>>
>>>> -
>>>>
>>>>>> What
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> is the most recent version of the UAD-1 FX you PC guys are able to
use?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Can the Neve EQ's and comps run in Paris on PC? On Mac we're stuck
>>>>>>>
>> back
>>
>>>>>>> in UAD-1 v.3.9.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Gantt
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "Rod Lincoln" <rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Tom. I'd be real interested in what you find out. I'm tempted to
buy
>>>>>>>>
>>>> it
>>>>
>>>>>>> before
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> the 31st (tomorrow) if it works, but if there's something that breaks
>>>>>>>>
>>>>> it
>>>>>
>>>>>>>> in Paris, the...NOT.
>>>>>>>> Anyone else been able to use this in Paris on a PC???
>>>>>>>> Rod
>>>>>>>>
>>
>>
>
>--
>Chris Ludwig
>ADK
>chrisl@adkproaudio.com <mailto:chrisl@adkproaudio.com>
>www.adkproaudio.com <http://www.adkproaudio.com/>
>(859) 635-5762Hey Deej,
Ah forgot which system the Paris machine was on.
Damn that a7V8x is still running awesome.
Chris
DJ wrote:
> Chris,
>
> I never did use the K8NSU 939 with Paris. The Aussie Kims both use these
> with Paris however with AMD 64 3700 single core CPU's.
>
> I had great luck with the ASUS A7V8X mobo and an AMD XP 2800 CPU for 3
> years. I'm sure you could go to an XP 3000 CPU with this mobo.
>
> Deej
>
>
> "Gantt Kushner" <ganttmann@comcast.net> wrote in message
> news:460fc42d$1@linux...
>
>> Hi Chris,
>>
>> I have a Magma 13 slot PCI expander already, so, assuming I can put
>> together
>> a machine that's compatible, PCI slots are not an issue. Forgive me if
>> this question seems stupid - Is building/selling/fixing computers what you
>> do?
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
>> Gantt
>>
>> Chris Ludwig <chrisl@adkproaudio.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Gantt,
>>> They can but it is very dependent on the chipset used on the cardbus
>>> controller.
>>>
>>> Unless you stumble across a chassis used on EBay you might as well just
>>>
>>> buy a desktop to do the Paris thing.
>>> Magma and other units go for $1500 plus when New.
>>>
>>> There are no motherboards that are currently being made that AFAIK have
>>>
>>> been fully tested with Paris hardware.
>>>
>>> Most everyone is using stuff from a bout 2 years ago.
>>>
>>> The GigabyteK8NS - Ultra-939 that has a AMD X2 CPU works well for DJ.
>>> That is probably the newest board you will find and it is only available
>>>
>>> used of refurb at this point.
>>>
>>> Also anything brand new will have at most 3 PCI slots. The rest are
>>> PCI-e. So if you have a more than 2 card Paris system your SOL.
>>>
>>>
>>> Chris
>>>
>>>
>>> Gantt Kushner wrote:
>>>
>>>> My wife has an HP laptop for work, running Windows XP Media and XP Pro.
>>>>
>> Are
>>
>>>> there PCI expansion chassis that can make a laptop work w/ Paris? I've
>>>>
>> seen
>>
>>>> questions about this, but I don't recall if anyone's tried it...
>>>>
>>>> Thanks!
>>>>
>>>> Gantt
>>>>
>>>> "Gantt Kushner" <ganttmann@comcast.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> I've wondered about this here before, but I may be getting more serious
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> about
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> it:
>>>>>
>>>>> I've been running Paris on a Mac G4, which means I'm stuck in OS 9.
>>>>>
>> That
>>
>>>>> means I can't use any of the newer Waves and UAD-1 plugins because they
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> only
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> write their software for OS 10. So, if I switch to PC I'll be able to
>>>>>
>> use
>>
>>>>> the new plugins and hopefully will be rid of the intermitent weird
>>>>> noises
>>>>> I get w/ UAD-1 plugins.
>>>>>
>>>>> SO, can anyone give me an idea how much I'd have to spend to put
>>>>> together
>>>>> a rock solid state-of-the-current-art PC to run my audio stuff on? I'd
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> also
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> need a new stereo editing/mastering program. What do you folks
>>>>> suggest?
>>>>> I assume I can still use my two Samsung LCD monitors and my Magma 13
>>>>>
>> slot
>>
>>>>> expansion chassis. Can a PC network thru my Apple Airport system to
>>>>>
>> get
>>
>>>>> online, print, etc?
>>>>>
>>>>> Sorry for so many stupid questions. I am, indeed, a PC idiot!
>>>>>
>>>>> Gantt
>>>>>
>>>>> "Rod Lincoln" <rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> XP home
>>>>>> rod
>>>>>> "Gantt Kushner" <ganttmann@comcast.net> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> DAMN! Another reason to think about switching platforms... What
>>>>>>>
>> version
>>
>>>>>>> of Windows are you using?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> gantt
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "Rod Lincoln" <rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Running 4.5 here, on a PC with Paris. That's the latest, (except for
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>> the
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>> latest
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> latest, with the Helios) with all the Neve stuff. Runs great.
>>>>>>>> Rod
>>>>>>>> "Gantt Kushner" <ganttmann@comcast.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> This raises a question that I've been wondering about for a while
>>>>>>>>>
>> now
>>
>>>>>> -
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> What
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> is the most recent version of the UAD-1 FX you PC guys are able to
>>>>>>>>>
>> use?
>>
>>>>>>>>> Can the Neve EQ's and comps run in Paris on PC? On Mac we're stuck
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>> back
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>>>> in UAD-1 v.3.9.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Gantt
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> "Rod Lincoln" <rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Tom. I'd be real interested in what you find out. I'm tempted to
>>>>>>>>>>
>> buy
>>
>>>>>> it
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> before
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> the 31st (tomorrow) if it works, but if there's something that
>>>>>>>>>> breaks
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> it
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> in Paris, the...NOT.
>>>>>>>>>> Anyone else been able to use this in Paris on a PC???
>>>>>>>>>> Rod
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>
>>> --
>>> Chris Ludwig
>>> ADK
>>> chrisl@adkproaudio.com <mailto:chrisl@adkproaudio.com>
>>> www.adkproaudio.com <http://www.adkproaudio.com/>
>>> (859) 635-5762
>>>
>
>
>
--
Chris Ludwig
ADK
chrisl@adkproaudio.com <mailto:chrisl@adkproaudio.com>
www.adkproaudio.com <http://www.adkproaudio.com/>
(859) 635-5762What fun!
Bill
"Sarah" <sarahjane@sarahtonin.com> wrote in message news:460f1a28$1@linux...
> Oh, and by the way, here's some detail.
> http://news.independent.co.uk/environment/climate_change/art icle2326210.ece
>
> S
>
>
> "Bill Lorentzen" <bill@lorentzen.ws> wrote in message
> news:460ec4f9@linux...
>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u6IPHmJWmDk&mode=related& amp;search=
>>
>> It's a British documentary showing another viewpoint about global warming
>> and CO2. It's a viewpoint that is different from that of the man who
>> invented the internet...
>>
>
>"DC" <dc@spammersinhell.com> wrote:
>
>Gene,
>
>No matter what we say to each other here, the whole thing
>is out of our hands. What troubles me is that we who grew
>up in the 1960's learned to rebel against Nixon, but we drew
>the line at Gore and Hillary didn't we? How did we get so
>many sacred cows?
>
>What if these scientists are right?
>
>Remember, in the 1970's the same people were squealing
>about global cooling. Worse, the ice core evidence shows
>that increases in carbon dioxide level historically follows warming
>not precedes it. Carbon may not be the problem.
>
>
>DC
>
I know the Naysayers will just say nay, but you should read this:
http://www.cnn.com/2007/TECH/science/04/01/climate.report.ap /index.html
Personally I think we should just argue about the science for the next hundred
years or so. Then the people standing in the way of doing something about
it can simply claim that it would have happened anyway, and the people that
wanted to change things can say “I told you so”. Screw the next generation.
I will be gone when the shit really starts to hit the fan in about 50 years.
"The worst stuff is not going to happen because we can't be that stupid,"
said Harvard University oceanographer James McCarthy.
This is the optimistic opinion of a person who does not frequent the Paris
users group.
Gene :-(Hey Folks,
Ok with Gantt's current dilemma of trying to use the newer UAD stuff.
I;m getting the itch to see if I can get Paris hardware/software to work
well on new PC hardware.
I obviously have access to the PC hardware stuff and I have PCI-e and
PCI UAD cards to use (we build some of UADs in house test machines).
So if any wants me to take on this test I'll need some Paris stuff sense
I don't have anything now.
Here is what I'd need as a minimum.
2x EDS cards w/ sync cables
2x MEC with data cables
2x C-16s
Fxpansion 3.3
If anyone wants the XP ADAT issues tested then I'd need some ADAT cards.
Thanks,
Chris
--
Chris Ludwig
ADK
chrisl@adkproaudio.com <mailto:chrisl@adkproaudio.com>
www.adkproaudio.com <http://www.adkproaudio.com/>
(859) 635-5762Unfortunately I don't know enough science to analyze the whole scene and
draw my own "scientific" conclusions. That said, I do find one specific
datum from the movie compelling: that historically the CO2 has risen AFTER
the warming. If this is indeed true, then one would have to be a fool to
believe that increased CO2 emissions will greatly cause global warming.
Surely we are all smart enough to acknowledge that.
A key question is: hsitorically, which came first, the warming or the CO2
increase? Who can umequivocally determine that?
Bill
"Bill Lorentzen" <bill@lorentzen.ws> wrote in message news:460ec4f9@linux...
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u6IPHmJWmDk&mode=related& amp;search=
>
> It's a British documentary showing another viewpoint about global warming
> and CO2. It's a viewpoint that is different from that of the man who
> invented the internet...
>For the record:
http://www.snopes.com/quotes/internet.asp
"Don Nafe" <dnafe@magma.ca> wrote:
>The man who invented the internet wouldn't know a scientific fact if it
was
>weighed down with 2000 lb weight and dropped on his chicken little head!
>
>DOn
>
>"Bill Lorentzen" <bill@lorentzen.ws> wrote in message news:460ec4f9@linux...
>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u6IPHmJWmDk&mode=related& amp;search=
>>
>> It's a British documentary showing another viewpoint about global warming
>> and CO2. It's a viewpoint that is different from that of the man who
>> invented the internet...
>>
>
>I might be able to do the two adat cards shortly...i.e. within a couple of
weeks...and if I can do the ADAT cards I'll send along a MEC as I won't be
needing the second one if the ADAT cards are gone.
Two questions...where are you located and about how long will you need the
gear
DOn
"Chris Ludwig" <chrisl@adkproaudio.com> wrote in message
news:460fe2fd@linux...
> Hey Folks,
> Ok with Gantt's current dilemma of trying to use the newer UAD stuff. I;m
> getting the itch to see if I can get Paris hardware/software to work well
> on new PC hardware.
> I obviously have access to the PC hardware stuff and I have PCI-e and PCI
> UAD cards to use (we build some of UADs in house test machines).
> So if any wants me to take on this test I'll need some Paris stuff sense I
> don't have anything now.
>
> Here is what I'd need as a minimum.
> 2x EDS cards w/ sync cables
> 2x MEC with data cables
> 2x C-16s
> Fxpansion 3.3
> If anyone wants the XP ADAT issues tested then I'd need some ADAT cards.
>
> Thanks,
> Chris
>
>
>
> --
> Chris Ludwig
> ADK
> chrisl@adkproaudio.com <mailto:chrisl@adkproaudio.com>
> www.adkproaudio.com <http://www.adkproaudio.com/>
> (859) 635-5762This is a multi-part message in MIME format.
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"Don Nafe" <dnafe@magma.ca> wrote:
>Just so I've got this straight...according to the scientific data I am to
>believe that the smallest portion of our atmosphere (less than 3%) is in
>charge of our planet's temperature and that the sun, the oceans and cosmic
>triggers have little or no effect on our climate...and that the warming
and
>cooling trends of the previous 600 million years on the earth don't matter
>because humans weren't a factor in those changes.
>
>Ok got it
>
>Don
>
>
You are so right Don, we aren’t doing anything.
This is LA which is not as bad as Denver, which is not as bad as Mexico City,
which is not as bad as Sal Palo, which is not as New Delhi…..
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