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| Re: Hmmm...is it just me? [message #85174 is a reply to message #85168] |
Thu, 24 May 2007 17:19   |
Nil
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> > Aaron, do you have any sources of data for the actual cost of
>>>> providing
>>>> > health care to illegal aliens? What numbers are you using?
>>>> >
>>>> > Do you know the amount of taxes paid by illegal aliens?
>>>> >
>>>> > Do you know the amount of money saved in the economy, overall, by
> the
>>>> > low wages they are paid?
>>>> >
>>>> > I'm just curious. It would be interesting to know any stats you are
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>>>> using.
>>>> This'll get you started. And they're old numbers for the most part,
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>>>> could be an improvement in the situation but I seriously doubt it. I've
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>>>> seen growth in my area for sure and I'd expect the same for this region
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>>>> of states all the way to Cali.
>>>> This study is one of the first to estimate the total impact of illegal
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>>>> immigration on the federal budget. Most previous studies have focused
> on
>>>> the state and local level and have examined only costs or tax payments,
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>>>> but not both. Based on Census Bureau data, this study finds that, when
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>>>> all taxes paid (direct and indirect) and all costs are considered,
>>>> illegal households created a net fiscal deficit at the federal level
> of
>>>> more than $10 billion in 2002. We also estimate that, if there was an
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>>>> amnesty for illegal aliens, the net fiscal deficit would grow to nearly
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>>>> $29 billion.
>>>> http://www.cis.org/articles/2004/fiscalexec.html
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| Re: Hmmm...is it just me? [message #85194 is a reply to message #85168] |
Thu, 24 May 2007 20:27 |
Aaron Allen
Messages: 1988
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s,
>>>>> but not both. Based on Census Bureau data, this study finds that, when
>>>>> all taxes paid (direct and indirect) and all costs are considered,
>>>>> illegal households created a net fiscal deficit at the federal level
>> of
>>>>> more than $10 billion in 2002. We also estimate that, if there was an
>>>>> amnesty for illegal aliens, the net fiscal deficit would grow to nearly
>>>>> $29 billion.
>>>>> http://www.cis.org/articles/2004/fiscalexec.html
>>>>> Washington Post found about the same thing
>>>>> "Households headed by illegal aliens imposed more than $26.3 billion
>> in
>>>>> costs on the federal government in 2002 and paid only $16 billion in
>>>>> taxes, creating a net fiscal deficit of $10.4 billion, or $2,700 per
>>>>> illegal household," said Steven A. Camarota, author of the study.
>>>>> Report message to a moderator
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| Re: Hmmm...is it just me? [message #85198 is a reply to message #85194] |
Thu, 24 May 2007 21:52 |
Deej [4]
Messages: 1292
Registered: January 2007
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;>>> house bank account?
>>>>>
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Ideally we should start by designing a working system for citizens.
>> We
>>>>> > can and should address the immigration issue separately.
>>>>> >
>>>>>
>>>>> My point is that it is not a separate issue, but linked. We may just
>> have
>>>>> to disagree about that one. I've been in and out of hospitals the last
>>>>> year with both a sick 5 yr old boy and a girlfriend post brain tumor.
>>>>> She's a tough survivor. I'm telling you what I'm seeing bro, first
>>>>> hand.
>>>>> I could relate some horror stories.
>>>>> Sorry for the delayed response.... Father's Day, priorities and such
>> :)
>>>>> > Cheers,
>>>>> > -Jamie
>>>>> > www.JamieKrutz.com <http://www.jamiekrutz.com/>
>>>>>
>>>>> Cheers back atcha'
>>>>>
>>>>> AA
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Aaron Allen wrote:
>>>>> >> "LaMOnt " <jjdpro@ameritech.net <mailto:jjdpro@ameritech.net>>
>>>>> wrote
>>>>> in message news:46755eae$1@linux...
>>>>> >>> Aaron please read my last post. My question to those who think
>>>>> like
>>>>> you
>>>>> >>> is:
>>>>> >>> "Then, what is the cure"??
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> I did read you last post, which prompted mine. Let me elaborate
>>>>> since
>>>>> you
>>>>> >> don't see what I meant.
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> the 'govt' way is to beat down the vendor to the lowest
>>>>> denominator,
>>>>> then
>>>>> >> hold the
>>>>> >>> payment as long as you possibly can. Let's not even get into the
>>>>> >>> 'entitlement' problems or running away any decent health care
>>>>> worker
>>>>> >>> because
>>>>> >>> of govt mandates.
>>>>> >>> Does the current health system need work? Absolutely. Do we need
>> the
>>>>> fed
>>>>> >>> gov't doing it? NO.
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> The cure. That's not easy, nor is it going to be fast or smooth.
>> I'd
>>>>> >> approach it as a layered answer, like almost all problems in life,
>>>>> and see
>>>>> >> what works. What works will depend on so many variables, like
>>>>> region,
>>>>> >> patient, nature of illness, how the illness was obtained,
>>>>> cure/easing
>>>>> of
>>>>> >> symptoms, procedures involved, doc
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| Re: Hmmm...is it just me? [message #85211 is a reply to message #85198] |
Fri, 25 May 2007 05:42 |
Aaron Allen
Messages: 1988
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albox.com" target="_blank">glennon@NOSPmyrealbox.com> wrote:
>
>They like and need a lot of power. They are fairly inefficient but good
speakers.
>You should give them a listen as see for yourself if they will work.
>
>I like the new 805S a lot.
>
>Gene
>
>"Neil" <OIUOIU@OIU.com> wrote:
>>
>>Geno - but what if I DON'T want any attitude? IOW, what if I
>>want to hear the RAWK with added energy, as in a damn good
>>refence monitor for playback purposes? Would they be good for
>>that?
>>
>>Also, B&W - I've heard their stuff tends to like a lot of
>>power pumped into them... you're saying that particular series
>>doen't like that, though, yes?
>>
>>Neil
>>
>>
>>"Gene Lennon" <glennon@NOSPmyrealbox.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>Excellent choice for classical and jazz work. Also great for high quality
>>>audio for TV/video. Would not be my first choice for rock or R&B because
>>>they won’t add any energy, and they don’t handle loud.
>>>
>>>Gene
>>>
>>>"Neil" <OIUOIU@OIU.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>Anyone ever hear these? I've heard the smaller B&W's (DM-
>>>>series, I think), and the really f*king super high-end ones
>>>>that look like R2D2 with a tweeter on it's head, but not this
>>>>series... anyone ever use them?
>>>>
>>>>I ask because I was out running errands today & noticed that a
>>>>local hi-fi place has 701's (not hooked up, though) and the
>>>>price seemed reasonable - $799 each. (well, reasonable for that
>>>>level of quality, from what I've heard of their other stuff).
>>>>
>>>>Anyone?
>>>>
>>>>BTW, Deej - when I was out & about, I was able to find exactly
>>>>ONE half-rack-height spacer... no vents, jsut a solid spacer. I
>>>>grabbed it in case you can use it -I don't even know if one is
>>>>even worth shipping, though - lemme know if you can use it,
>>>>otherwise I can always just return it.
>>>>
>>>>Neil
>>>>
>>>
>>
>Paul Braun <cygnus_nospam@ctgonline.org> wrote:
>Just exactly what the fu*k is the reason for that new Brett Michaels
>reality show? I mean, come ON.
Because:
a.) they're cheap to produce, and...
b.) people like to see celebrities crash & burn.
:DHelloy All!
What the video cards are recomend for Paris Pro? (Win XP)
Thank you!Hey Neil..I haer ya and you are right about proper digital mixing..
I really don't like mixing that way, so I sum thru an analog mixer and let
it do he job..Slamming into a Alesis Masterlink..
"Neil" <OIUOIU@OIU.com> wrote:
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>Lamont, those DiMakina tunes you heard recently (and you said
>you liked - thank you again, BTW) were all in the low-20's to
>low 30's in track count. No weirdness there.
>
>It's all about gain staging, dEwD - like I said, you wouldn't
>run an analog console with every channel at +15 & the master
>there as well, so why would you run a digital "virtual" console
>at "0", giving yourself no headroom?
>
>Neil
>
>
>"LaMont" <jjdpro@ameritec.net> wrote:
>>
>>Very cool.. But, be careful..Adding too many tracks to Cubase..Equals weirdness..
>>
>>"DJ" <www.aarrrrggghhh!!!.com> wrote:
>>>OMG!!!!! Just opening this up as a track insert on default settings on
>a
>>14
>>>track mix here is some major Parisness!!!. My DAW no longer sounds like
>>
>>>Cubase and I don't have the Neve 5042 on the mix bus. I'm going to have
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