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Yammy DM2000-I'm gonna die!!!! [message #81825] Tue, 20 March 2007 13:25 Go to next message
Deej [4] is currently offline  Deej [4]   UNITED STATES
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>> is
>>>using the AD/DA's that I have here as insert I/O so it's not the
>>>converters
>>
>>>and not the clocking.
>>>
>>>It's creating a new project in Cubase 4 that is the problem. It is
>>>especially problematic when I import an audio track to use for
>>>overdubbing.
>>>
>>>I did go back to an old proj
Re: Yammy DM2000-I'm gonna die!!!! [message #81834 is a reply to message #81825] Tue, 20 March 2007 15:08 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Chris Ludwig is currently offline  Chris Ludwig   UNITED STATES
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.

Nuendo 3 might be an alternative (at least if you
can work a crossgrade/upgrade of some sort) - rock solid here, and you have
the control
room, if that's a reason you are going with Cubase 4 over SX 3.

I don't recall the rest of the thread, but I assume you trashed the C4 prefs
and started
a project from scratch? That has been know to cause all sorts of weirdness,
even it N3/SX3
but once they are rebuilt, problem solved. Once that's done, you can still
import your control room, key commands, setups etc).

I know what you mean - never a convenient time for problems like this. Give
me a call if I can help
in any way.

Regards,
Dedric

"DJ" <www.aarrrrggghhh!!!.com> wrote in message news:462654d8@linux...
> Dedric,
>
> Thanks for the sug
Re: Yammy DM2000-I'm gonna die!!!! [message #81847 is a reply to message #81825] Tue, 20 March 2007 20:44 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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it for a source
>> for
>>>a global template and it worked on one out of three projects I was
>>>tracking
>>
>>>tonight.
>>>
>>>I even uninstalled/reinstalled Cubase 4 and it did no good.
>>>
>>>The idea of migrating to Reaper is starting to appeal to me more and
>>>more.
>> I
>>>think Reaper even allows inputs to be routed to multiple outputs. That
>>>would
>>
>>>really be a nice situation for cues in a tracking session.
>>>
>>>Bah.....I'm tired and PO'ed. Grrrrrrrr!!!!
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>
>Yep! it wasn't Cubase woes, it was my raid controller.

Back to the lab..........Horseshoe pickup and in mint condition. Sounds very David Lindley. It was a
gift from a friend of his. Came wrapped in old newspapers that had the
headline:

"General Eisenhower says troops to come home soon"

We output to a Lexicon Signature 284 tube amp set to *stun*, mic'ed up the
stereo cab in the Eckels iso
Re: Yammy DM2000-I'm gonna die!!!! [message #81896 is a reply to message #81825] Wed, 21 March 2007 14:13 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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icle/20070419/D8OJTJD02.html" target="_blank">http://apnews.myway.com/article/20070419/D8OJTJD02.html

One thing we must absolutely show no tolerance for is bullying in
high school and elementary. And today, girls bully about as well as boys.

One of the few things that is consistent in young mass murderers is
having been bullied.

Would he have done this had he not been bullied? Who can say?
He was pretty crazy. But it seems like an area that might make a
difference.

DC


DCFriday night the 4th is bad for me till after 10P,
then I'm up for cocktails...Pretty good all day Saturday
the 5th till 7:30...

The following weekend is swamped for me...



rick <parnell68@hotmail.com> wrote:
>how about i'm cooking for my nieces graduation party.
>
>
>
>On Thu, 19 Apr 2007 21:
Re: Yammy DM2000-I'm gonna die!!!! [message #81902 is a reply to message #81896] Wed, 21 March 2007 14:51 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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arget="_blank">http://www.polesoft.com/refer=
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------=_NextPart_000_00C3_01C78349.09639180--What a guy huh?

Still, why did Kim release that to the public?

yikes!

We look up at celebrities and expect that they have these
sparkling and oh-so-interesting lives...

Often the opposite is true.

DCAgreed! Absolutely. We'd do well in this country to divest ourselves
of the notion that the establishment of a "pecking order" is somehow a
natural and necessary function of group dynamics in children. Yes,
such behavior shows up where it's allowed (or where it's expected).
But it doesn't have to be this way.

My kids have had the good fortune to attend a small private school
that has a core philosophy based on mutual respect and individual
rights. Kids feel safe, happy, accepted, and the inevitable conflicts
are worked through in a forthright way that often as not makes friends
out of antagonists. I've been involved with this school for eleven
years now, and have seen this positive approach succeed with sour and
withdrawn children time and time again.

Not to suggest that simple justice will prevent mental illness -- but,
man, it's a
Re: Yammy DM2000-I'm gonna die!!!! [message #81936 is a reply to message #81825] Thu, 22 March 2007 00:58 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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<P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>XFX PVT73GUGF3 GeForce 7600GT 256MB =
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Re: Yammy DM2000-I'm gonna die!!!! [message #81949 is a reply to message #81936] Thu, 22 March 2007 09:58 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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;=
>>>>get for=20
>>>>my Magma's since they are 32 bit units (although 2 x of them are capable
>>>=
>>>>of=20
>>>>integrating the PCIe host card so this gives them a little added value
>> =
>>>>on=20
>>>>EBay).</FONT></P>
>>>><P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Any thoughts?</FONT></P>
>>>><P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </P>
>>>><P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </P>
>>>><P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </P>
>>>><P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </P></DIV></BODY></HTML>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>
>The workplace is another area where a little attention to human
dignity would go a long way -- and has been shown to be profitable as
well...

-- maybe it's time to jump ship...

-- chas.

On Fri, 20 Apr 2007 13:52:33 -0400, John <no@no.com> wrote:

>I wish my job had those qualities.
>
>Chas. Duncan wrote:
>> Agreed! Absolutely. We'd do well in this country to divest ourselves
>> of the notion that the establishment of a "pecking order" is somehow a
&g
Re: Yammy DM2000-I'm gonna die!!!! [message #81954 is a reply to message #81949] Thu, 22 March 2007 09:50 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Deej [4] is currently offline  Deej [4]   UNITED STATES
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ll
have the same limitations they do in XP. Cubase performs horriblay in
Vista at this point and many VSTi will not install correctly. If you not
doing any heavy midi work as you say. As in no large Orchestral stuff
then you really will have no benefit to the more thna 4 gig stuff at
this point.

>
>
>
> Cubase ain't 64bit yet, but will be in a few months.
>
I think it will be more than a few personally..:(
>
> I can see the writing on the wall and I want to be able to go
> there, soooo......
>
> Here's what I'm looking at:
>
> Intel BOXD975XBX2KR LGA 775 Intel 975X ATX Intel Motherbo-$249.99
>
> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E168131210 59
>
excellent motherboard

> Intel Core 2 Extreme QX6700 Kentsfield 2.66GHz 2 x 4MB L2
> Cache LGA 775 Processor (yeah...that's 10.64 GHz )-$970.00
>
> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115 011
>
awesome but I would wait till summer time. Intel will doing a price drop
on them. if you really want to get a system going now you might want to
go for the E6600 and get the quad later. The e660 is still substantially
faster than what your using now.


> mushkin 2GB (2 x 1GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400)
> Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory - $149.99
>
> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820146 599
>
make sure it is cl4. the 800 part won't mean much if its got a high CL.
Oh and I would use 2 2gig sticks. The board will take upto 8 gigs in 64.
2gig stick have come done allot in price.


> XFX PVT73GUGF3 GeForce 7600GT 256MB 128-bit GDDR3 PCI Express
> x16 Video Card-$119.99
>
> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814150 185
Re: Yammy DM2000-I'm gonna die!!!! [message #81966 is a reply to message #81954] Thu, 22 March 2007 15:49 Go to previous messageGo to next message
LaMont is currently offline  LaMont
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the extra $$ on
>> RME and UAD-1 PCIe hardware if I can just integrate my
>> existing PCI hardware with the PCIe > PCi SBS chassis. There
>> might be a small hit to performance with the PCi>PCIe
>> conversion as compared to interfacing PCIe directly with the
>> mobo, but the new mobos don't have enough PCIe slots to allow
>> me to use the number of cards I want to use without a PCIe
>> expansion chassis anyway....and this will need to be 64 bit
>> eventually so there's a $2k expense, no matter how you cut it.
>> So why upgrade PCI cards to PCIe if I can get a PCIe chassis
>> that will hold all my PCI cards and allow them to interface
>> PCIe anyway?
>>
> SBS is the better unit. Not the Magma crap.
>
>> The reason I'm tempted to make the move now (besides wanting
>> the horsepower) is that although the prices of the CPU's will
>> be coming down over the next few months, so will the price
>> I'll be able to get for my Magma's since they are 32 bit units
>> (although 2 x of them are capable of integrating the PCIe host
>> card so this gives them a little added value on EBay).
>>
>> Any thoughts?
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>DJ, using rme 9652, i'm doing 3ms latency for normal tracking with 20%
cpu on the e6700. I can do .7ms and it uses 50%. Amazing really. 3ms
is great for tracking and has no perceptible delay for the average
studio setup.

DJ wrote:
> Thanks Chris. Been playing around with Reaper some more tonight. Great
> routing and ease of ues. I don't see any performance gains over Cubase 4
> with my dual core when running UAD-1's, even in UAD-1 synchronous mode
> (which then disables multicore usage). I also got my first BSOD with Reaper
> tonight....something that I haven't had with Cubase 4, ever. I really only
> want to be able to get low latencies when tracking with FX. It wouldn't
> bother me to stay win Win XP, especially if the 64 bit OS would allow more
> RAM and still allow me to use Cubase 4 and my Magmas at 32 bit. I'm still
> not clear on whether that is possible. All my other hardware has 64 bit
> drivers available (CDR drive and graphics card.) I wouldn't mind at all
> staying at 32 bit if I could just track and mix at low latency.
>
> I'd like to use as much of my existing hardware as possible. Maybe one of
> the old AGP based Tyan mobos with dual socket dual core Opterons? I hear
> those scream, though there are some issues with over 3 x UAD-1 cards, but
> I've also heard that having the cards in a Magma cures the problem and
> Magmas are something I've got here....in spades.
Re: Yammy DM2000-I'm gonna die!!!! [message #81971 is a reply to message #81966] Thu, 22 March 2007 15:46 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Deej [4] is currently offline  Deej [4]   UNITED STATES
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>I
>>> =
>>>>>want to go to Vista and run 8G of RAM on the DAW.
>>>>>
>>>>>I really like the RME HDSP configuration I've got now with the Multiface
>>>>=
>>>>>and the 2 x HDSP 9652's with 16 AD/DA's on the ADI8-DS units and I don't
>>>>=
>>>>>really want to spend the extra $$ on RME and UAD-1 PCIe hardware if
I
>=
>>>>>can just integrate my existing PCI hardware with the PCIe > PCi SBS
=
>>>>>chassis. There might be a small hit to performance with the PCi>PCIe
>=
>>>>>conversion as compared to interfacing PCIe directly with the mobo, but
>>> =
>>>>>the new mobos don't have enough PCIe slots to allow me to use the number
>>>>=
>>>>>of cards I want to use without a PCIe expansion chassis anyway....and
>=
>>>>>this will need to be 64 bit eventually so there's a $2k expense, no
=
>>>>>matter how you cut it. So why upgrade PCI cards to PCIe if I can get
>a
>>> =
>>>>>PCIe chassis that will hold all my PCI cards and allow them to interface
>>>>=
>>>>>PCIe anyway?
>>>>>
>>>>>The reason I'm tempted to make the move now (besides wanting the =
>>>>>horsepower) is that although the prices of the CPU's will be coming
down
>>>>=
>>>>>over the next few months, so will the price I'll be able to get for
my
>>> =
>>>>>Magma's since they are 32 bit units (although 2 x of them are capable
>of
>>>>=
>>>>>integrating the PCIe host card so this gives them a little added value
>>> =
>>>>>on EBay).
>>>>>
>>>>>Any thoughts?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
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>>>>><P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Cubase ain't 64bit yet, but will be in
>a
>>>>=
>>>>>few months.=20
>>>>>I can see the writing on the wall and I want to be able to go there,=20
>>>>>soooo......</FONT></P>
>>>>><P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Here's what I'm looking at:</FONT></P>
>>>>><P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Intel BOXD975XBX2KR LGA 775 Intel 975X
>=
>>>>>ATX Intel=20
>>>>>Motherbo-$249.99</FONT></P>
>>>>><P><A=20
>>>>>href=3D" http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=3DN82E1681312 1059"=
>&g
Re: Yammy DM2000-I'm gonna die!!!! [message #81972 is a reply to message #81966] Thu, 22 March 2007 15:59 Go to previous messageGo to next message
EK Sound is currently offline  EK Sound   CANADA
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t;>>>><FONT=20
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>>>>><P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Intel Core 2 Extreme QX6700 Kentsfield
>=
>>>>>2.66GHz 2 x=20
>>>>>4MB L2 Cache LGA 775 Processor (yeah...that's 10.64=20
>>>>>GHz )-$970.00</FONT></P>
>>>>><P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><A=20
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>>>>>"> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=3DN82E168191 15011</A></=
>>>>>FONT></P>
>>>>><P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>mushkin 2GB (2 x 1GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM
>>>>=
>>>>>DDR2 800=20
>>>>>(PC2 6400) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory - $149.99</FONT></P>
>>>>><P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><A=20
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>>>>>"> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=3DN82E168201 46599</A></=
>>>>>FONT></P>
>>>>><P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>XFX PVT73GUGF3 GeForce 7600GT 256MB =
>>>>>128-bit GDDR3 PCI=20
>>>>>Express x16 Video Card-$119.99</FONT></P>
>>>>><P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><A=20
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>>>>>"> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=3DN82E168141 50185</A></=
>>>>>FONT></P>
>>>>><P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>COOLMAX CP-500T EPS12V 500W Power Supply
>>>>=
>>>>>115/230 V=20
>>>>>UL, CSA, -59.99</FONT></P>
>>>>><P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><A=20
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>>>>>"> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=3DN82E168171 59040</A></=
>>>>>FONT></P><FONT=20
>>>>>face=3DArial size=3D2>
>>>>><P class=3DheaderGold>Seven Slot PCI Express to PCI-X Expansion=20
>>>>>System-$2
Re: Yammy DM2000-I'm gonna die!!!! [message #81974 is a reply to message #81971] Thu, 22 March 2007 17:29 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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>>>>><P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>rough total: $3599.96</FONT></P>
>>>>><P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>At this point I think I would have a
=
>>>>>workable 10+ GHZ=20
>>>>>system that *might* be able to run at 1.5ms without having to worry
=
>>>>>about ASIO=20
>>>>>direct monitoring while tracking projects that have FX on inserts/sends
>>>>=
>>>>>and=20
>>>>>still be able to utilize my existing PCI audio interfacing with PCIe
>=
>>>>>hardware=20
>>>>>without having to replace it with a mishmash combination of PCIe/PCI
>=
>>>>>stuff and I=20
>>>>>would be 64 bit capable when the time comes and I want to go to Vista
>=
>>>>>and run 8G=20
>>>>>of RAM on the DAW.</FONT></P>
>>>>><P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I really like the RME HDSP configuration
>>>>=
>>>>>I've got now=20
>>>>>with the Multiface and the 2 x HDSP 9652's with 16 AD/DA's on the =
>>>>>ADI8-DS units=20
>>>>>and I don't really want to spend the extra $$ on RME and UAD-1 PCIe
=
>>>>>hardware if=20
>>>>>I can just integrate my existing PCI hardware with the PCIe > PCi SBS
>=
>>>>>
>>>>>chassis. There might be a small hit to performance with the PCi>PCIe=20
>>>>>conversion as compared to interfacing PCIe directly with the mobo, but
>>> =
>>>>>the new=20
>>>>>mobos don't have enough PCIe slots to allow me to use the number of
=
>>>>>cards I want=20
>>>>>to use without a PCIe expansion chassis anyway....and this will need
>to
>>>>=
>>>>>be 64=20
>>>>>bit eventually so there's a $2k expense, no matter how you cut it. So
>=
>>>>>why=20
>>>>>upgrade PCI cards to PCIe if I can get a PCIe chassis that will =
>>>>>hold all my=20
>>>>>PCI cards and allow them to interface PCIe anyway?</FONT></P>
>>>>><P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>The reason I'm tempted to make the move
>>> =
>>>>>now (besides=20
>>>>>wanting the horsepower) is that although the prices of the CPU's =
>>>>>will be=20
>>>>>coming down over the next few months, so will the price I'll be able
>to
>>>>=
>>>>>get for=20
>>>>>my Magma's since they are 32 bit units (although 2 x of them are capable
>>>>=
>>>>>of=20
>>>>>integrating the PCIe host card so this gives them a little added value
>>> =
>>>>>on=20
>>>>>EBay).</FONT></P>
>>>>><P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Any thoughts?</FONT></P>
>>>>><P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </P>
>>>>><P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </P>
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Re: Yammy DM2000-I'm gonna die!!!! [message #81978 is a reply to message #81971] Thu, 22 March 2007 18:11 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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>
>
>"Chris Ludwig" <chrisl@adkproaudio.com> wrote in message
>news:4629a6ce@linux...
>> Hi DJ,
>>
>> Stick with XP you will waste you time for the next year with vista
>> especially vista 64.
>> No audio or hardware or software work any better on vista and most works

>> worse.
>> You got at least a year still before you should even begin to run the
main
>> studio on it.
>> If you want to play around with it in free time then put the OS drive
in
>> the removable tray and install Vista that way. Don't do any sort of dual

>> boot. Just do separate drives.
>>
>>
>>
>> DJ wrote:
>>> So I can use 8 GB RAM with Vista 64 while running 32 bit Cubase 4?.
>>> Hmmm....I guess the same would be true of Win XP64 then,eh?
>> Cubase will not use 4 gigs with most sampler VSTi in vista 64. The
>> majority of the VSTi are not Large Memory address aware and will still

>> have the same limitations they do in XP. Cubase performs horriblay in

>> Vista at this point and many VSTi will not install correctly. If you not

>> doing any heavy midi work as you say. As in no large Orchestral stuff
then
>> you really will have no benefit to the more thna 4 gig stuff at this
>> point.
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Cubase ain't 64bit yet, but will be in a few months.
>>>
>> I think it will be more than a few personally..:(
>>>
>>> I can see the writing on the wall and I want to be able to go
>>> there, soooo......
>>>
>>> Here's what I'm looking at:
>>>
>>> Intel BOXD975XBX2KR LGA 775 Intel 975X ATX Intel Motherbo-$249.99
>>>
>>> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E168131210 59
>>>
>> excellent motherboard
>>
>>> Intel Core 2 Extreme QX6700 Kentsfield 2.66GHz 2 x 4MB L2
>>> Cache LGA 775 Processor (yeah...that's 10.64 GHz )-$970.00
>>>
>>> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115 011
>>>
>> awesome but I would wait till summer time. Intel will doing a price drop

>> on them. if you really want to get a system going now you might want to
go
>> for the E6600 and get the quad later. The e660 is still substantially

>> faster than what your using now.
>>
>>
>>> mushkin 2GB (2 x 1GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400)
>>> Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory - $149.99
>>>
>>> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820146 599
>>>
>> make sure it is cl4. the 800 part won't mean much if its got a high CL.
Oh
>> and I would use 2 2gig sticks. The board will take upto 8 gigs in 64.
2gig
>> stick have come done allot in price.
>>
>>
>>> XFX PVT73GUGF3 GeForce 7600GT 256MB 128-bit GDDR3 PCI Express
>>> x16 Video Card-$119.99
>>>
>>> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814150 185
>>>
>> excellent
>>
>>> COOLMAX CP-500T EPS12V 500W Power Supply 115/230 V UL,
>>> CSA, -59.99
>>>
>>> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817159 040
>>>
>>
>> not good enough for the amo
Re: Yammy DM2000-I'm gonna die!!!! [message #81982 is a reply to message #81978] Thu, 22 March 2007 18:31 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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dio software may be another thing, though I'm confident 2 years
> from
>>>> now we'll see movement towards Linux from mainstream audio apps also.
>>
>>>> Meanwhile,
>>>> I imagine they will continue to support XP.
>>>>
>>>> XP support will be around a long while, as 98 was. Remember the bad
>>>> press
>>>> Windows ME got? And 98 ended up outlasting ME because of this. Now look
>>
>>>> how
>>>> much MORE bad press


Gantt Kushner
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Re: Yammy DM2000-I'm gonna die!!!! [message #81987 is a reply to message #81982] Thu, 22 March 2007 18:53 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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>>>>>><P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>mushkin 2GB (2 x 1GB) 240-Pin DDR2
>>>>>>SDRAM
>>>>>=
>>>>>>DDR2 800=20
>>>>>>(PC2 6400) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory - $149.99</FONT></P>
>>>>>><P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><A=20
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>>>>>>FONT></P>
>>>>>><P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>XFX PVT73GUGF3 GeForce 7600GT 256MB =
>>>>>>128-bit GDDR3 PCI=20
>>>>>>Express x16 Video Card-$119.99</FONT></P>
>>>>>><P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><A=20
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Re: Yammy DM2000-I'm gonna die!!!! [message #81992 is a reply to message #81982] Thu, 22 March 2007 21:32 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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>>>I wouldn't think it's like you to buy a Mac... I mean, for starters
>>>they're
>>>reliable...
>>>
>>>...and secondly, there's a point of view from which you could say that
a
>>>Mac is "the easy way" to run Linux. ;o) And since when did you start doing
>>>things the easy way? ;o)
>>>
>>>Cheers,
>>>Kim.
>>>
>>>"DJ" <www.aarrrrggghhh!!!.com> wrote:
>>>>Not now silly.........later when I know how evil it really is so I can
>>
>>>>appreciate, take full responsibility for and properly savor the grief

>>>>that
>>>
>>>>it will cause in my life when I intentionally, and with aforethought,

>>>>make
>>>
>>>>the transition.................however, from what I'm hearing, there
may
>>>be
>>>>some *real* advantages to Vista as far as performance of multicore CPU's.
>>>
>>>>Win XP multicore support is more of a kludge, or so I'm hearing (though
>>>
>>>>Vista itself may be a kludge too). The ability to run lots of RAM is

>>>>always
>>>
>>>>a good thing and if Vista is better at supporting multicore CPU's perhaps
>>>it
>>>>would be preferable to XP-64.
>>>>
>>>>God forbid I should buy a Mac.
>>>>
>>>>;oD
>>>>
>>>>"Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:

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Re: Yammy DM2000-I'm gonna die!!!! [message #81994 is a reply to message #81992] Thu, 22 March 2007 21:50 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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>>>>> Linux...
>>>>>
>>>>> ...audio software may be another thing, though I'm confident 2 years
>> from
>>>>> now we'll see movement towards Linux from mainstream audio apps also.
>>>
>>>>> Meanwhile,
>>>>> I imagine they will continue to support XP.
>>>>>
>>>>> XP support will be around a long while, as 98 was. Remember the bad

>>>>> press
>>>>> Windows ME got? And 98 ended up outlasting ME because of this. Now
look
>>>
>>>>> how
>>>>> much MORE bad press Vista has had.
>>>>>
>>>>> Windows days are over dude... IMHO... don't go Vista...
>>>>>
>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>> Kim.
>>>>>
>>>>> "TCB" <nobody@ishere.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>No Vista! Bad Deej! No biscuit! You spend night in kennel!
>>>>>>
>>>>>>TCB
>>>>>>
>>>>>>"DJ" <www.aarrrrggghhh!!!.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Cubase ain't 64bit yet, but will be in a few months. I can see the
=
>>>>>>>writing on the wall and I want to be able to go there, soooo......
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Here's what I'm looking at:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Intel BOXD975XBX2KR LGA 775 Intel 975X ATX Intel Motherbo-$249.99
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=3DN82E1681312 1059
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Intel Core 2 Extreme QX6700 Kentsfield 2.66GHz 2 x 4MB L2 Cache LGA
>> 775
>>>>>>=
>>>>>>>Processor (yeah...that's 10.64 GHz )-$970.00
>>>>>>>
>>>>>
Re: Yammy DM2000-I'm gonna die!!!! [message #82006 is a reply to message #81994] Fri, 23 March 2007 07:28 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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OK, here's another possibility that looks much more flexible for the =
short term:

MOBO:=20
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$377.95 Great reviews on this on the Nuendo forum with UAD-1 cards in a =
Magma (and it just so happens....;o)

I am also hearing some cool stuff about this mobo but don't know about =
it's UAD-1 compatibility:

http://www.lagoom.com/ASUS_L1N64-SLI_WS_Dual_Socket_L1/L1N64 -SLI_WS/parti=
nfo-id-570627.html

$325.00 - I've seen a thread where it says that this mobo will be AMD =
Quad and Octo upgradable. I don't know about the Tyan, but if they have =
the same ZIF, I can't imagine why it wouldn't be upgradable to Quad or =
Octo as well.

CPU-2 of these:

http://www.newegg.com/product/product.asp?item=3DN82E1681910 3866

$858.00 My thinking is that if a doubling of an existing processing unit =
produces a 40% increase of performance according to the Steiny forums, =
then, in theory, if I doubled my 5.2GHz opteron 185, and took 40% of the =
second 5.2 GHz CPU, my system would be running at a theoretical 7.26GHz


Now if I take that same scaling model and apply it to the Opteron 1207, =
I'm running the first two cores at 6GHz. Add the second CPU and assume =
that 40% of that 6Ghz for the second two cores would actually be =
available in Cubase 4 for processing duties and, in theory I'm looking =
at having around 8.4GHz available for use in Cubase 4.

Divide my existing 5.2GHz CPU by 8.4GHz and we're looking at a =
theoretical 62% increase in processing power. That's pretty significant =
and might provide me the extra horses to do the low latency full time =
thing while monitoring with FX if I didn


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www.gizmorecording.com
Re: Yammy DM2000-I'm gonna die!!!! [message #82010 is a reply to message #82006] Fri, 23 March 2007 07:52 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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eed to be 64 bit eventually so there's a $2k =
expense, no matter how you cut it. So why upgrade PCI cards to PCIe if I =
can get a PCIe chassis that will hold all my PCI cards and allow them to =
interface PCIe anyway?

The reason I'm tempted to make the move now (besides wanting the =
horsepower) is that although the prices of the CPU's will be coming down =
over the next few months, so will the price I'll be able to get for my =
Magma's since they are 32 bit units (although 2 x of them are capable of =
integrating the PCIe host card so this gives them a little added value =
on EBay).

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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>OK, here's another possibility that =
looks much more=20
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>MOBO: </FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>$377.95 Great reviews on this on the =
Nuendo forum=20
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I am also hearing some cool stuff about =
this mobo=20
but don't know about it's UAD-1 compatibility:</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
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Re: Yammy DM2000-I'm gonna die!!!! [message #82011 is a reply to message #82006] Fri, 23 March 2007 08:52 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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p://www.newegg.com/product/product.asp?item=3DN82E1681313 1146"=
></A></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>$325.00&nbsp;- I've seen a thread where =
it says=20
that this mobo will be AMD Quad and Octo upgradable. I don't know about =
the=20
Tyan, but if they have the same ZIF, I can't imagine why&nbsp;it =
wouldn't=20
be&nbsp;upgradable to Quad or Octo as well.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>CPU-2 of these:</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><A=20
href=3D" http://www.newegg.com/product/product.asp?item=3DN82E1681910 3866"=
> http://www.newegg.com/product/product.asp?item=3DN82E1681910 3866</A></FO=
NT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>$858.00&nbsp;My thinking is =
that&nbsp;if a doubling=20
of an existing processing unit produces a 40% increase of performance =
according=20
to the Steiny forums, then, in theory, if I doubled my 5.2GHz opteron =
185, and=20
took 40% of the second 5.2 GHz CPU,&nbsp;my system would be running at a =

theoretical 7.26GHz</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Now if I take that same scaling model =
and apply it=20
to the Opteron 1207, I'm&nbsp;running the first two cores at 6GHz. Add =
the=20
second CPU and&nbsp;assume that 40% of that 6Ghz for the second two =
cores would=20
actually be&nbsp;available in Cubase 4 for processing duties&nbsp;and, =
in theory=20
I'm looking at having&nbsp;around 8.4GHz available for use in Cubase=20
4.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Divide my existing 5.2GHz CPU by 8.4GHz =
and we're=20
looking at a theoretical 62% increase in processing power. That's pretty =

significant and might provide me the extra horses to do the low latency =
full=20
time thing while monitoring with FX if I didn't get too overboard. In =
any event,=20
I *might* be able to approach what Paris can do now on modest projects =
(isn't=20
that sick?)</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>the RAM:</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><A=20
href=3D" http://www.newegg.com/product/product.asp?item=3DN82E1682022 7187"=
> http://www.newegg.com/product/product.asp?item=3DN82E1682022 7187</A></FO=
NT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>The total with a new PSU and video card =
would be=20
around $1800.00....or less if I just went with 2GHz RAM for now. Just a =
little=20
more than the single socket Quad core Intel system. I'm&nbsp;seeing user =
reviews=20
that say that&nbsp;these Opterons either smoke the Intel Xeons dual =
cores, or=20
are at least as fast.&nbsp;One big advantage I see to going with this =
dual=20
socket setup is that, at least from what I'm hearin
Re: Yammy DM2000-I'm gonna die!!!! [message #82013 is a reply to message #82010] Fri, 23 March 2007 08:54 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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16819115011=" target="_blank"> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=3DN82E168191 15011=
"> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=3DN82E168191 15011</A></=
FONT></P>
<P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>mushkin 2GB (2 x 1GB) 240-Pin DDR2 =
SDRAM DDR2 800=20
(PC2 6400) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory - $149.99</FONT></P>
<P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><A=20
=
href=3D" http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=3DN82E168201 46599=
"> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=3DN82E168201 46599</A></=
FONT></P>
<P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>XFX PVT73GUGF3 GeForce 7600GT 256MB =
128-bit GDDR3=20
PCI Express x16 Video Card-$119.99</FONT></P>
<P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><A=20
=
href=3D" http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=3DN82E168141 50185=
"> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=3DN82E168141 50185</A></=
FONT></P>
<P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>COOLMAX CP-500T EPS12V 500W Power =
Supply 115/230 V=20
UL, CSA, -59.99</FONT></P>
<P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><A=20
=
href=3D" http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=3DN82E168171 59040=
"> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=3DN82E168171 59040</A></=
FONT></P><FONT=20
face=3DArial size=3D2>
<P class=3DheaderGold>Seven Slot PCI Express to PCI-X Expansion=20
System-$2050.00</P></FONT>
<P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><A=20
=
href=3D" http://www.globalspec.com/FeaturedProducts/Detail/GEFanucEmb edded=
Systems/Seven_Slot_PCI_Express_to_PCIX_Expansion_System/1765 9/1 ">http://w=
ww.globalspec.com/FeaturedProducts/Detail/GEFanucEmbeddedSys tems/Seven_Sl=
ot_PCI_Express_to_PCIX_Expansion_System/17659/1</A></FONT> </P>
<P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>rough total: $3599.96</FONT></P>
<P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>At this point I think I would have a =
workable 10+=20
GHZ system that *might* be able to run at 1.5ms without having to =
worry about=20
ASIO direct monitoring while tracking projects that have FX on =
inserts/sends=20
and still be able to utilize my existing PCI audio interfacing with =
PCIe=20
hardware without having to replace it with a mishmash combination of =
PCIe/PCI=20
stuff and I would be 64 bit capable when the time comes and I want to =
go to=20
Vista and run 8G of RAM on the DAW.</FONT></P>
<P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I really like the RME HDSP =
configuration I've got=20
now with the Multiface and the 2 x HDSP 9652's with 16 AD/DA's on the =
ADI8-DS=20
units and I don't really want to spend the extra $$ on RME and UAD-1 =
PCIe=20
hardware if I can just integra
Re: Yammy DM2000-I'm gonna die!!!! [message #82014 is a reply to message #82006] Fri, 23 March 2007 08:54 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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te my existing PCI hardware with the =
PCIe &gt;=20
PCi SBS chassis. There might be a small hit to performance with the=20
PCi&gt;PCIe conversion as compared to interfacing PCIe directly with =
the mobo,=20
but the new mobos don't have enough PCIe slots to allow me to use the =
number=20
of cards I want to use without a PCIe expansion chassis anyway....and =
this=20
will need to be 64 bit eventually so there's a $2k expense, no matter =
how you=20
cut it. So why upgrade PCI cards to PCIe if I can get&nbsp;a PCIe =
chassis that=20
will hold all my PCI cards and allow them to interface PCIe =
anyway?</FONT></P>
<P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>The reason I'm tempted to make the move =
now=20
(besides wanting the horsepower)&nbsp;is that although the prices of =
the CPU's=20
will be coming down over the next few months, so will the price I'll =
be able=20
to get for my Magma's since they are 32 bit units (although 2 x of =
them are=20
capable of integrating the PCIe host card so this gives them a little =
added=20
value on EBay).</FONT></P>
<P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Any thoughts?</FONT></P>
<P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</P>
<P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</P>
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------=_NextPart_000_0097_01C78414.CA10A7D0--It's all relative. Looks like this is the worst school disaster in the
history of the US. I think I'm numb.

On May 18, 1927, 45 people, mostly children, were killed and 58 were injured
when disgruntled and demented school board member Andrew Kehoe dynamited the
new school building in Bath, Michigan out of revenge over his foreclosed
farm due in part to the taxes required to pay for the new school.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bath_School_disaster

http://freepages.history.rootsweb.co...e/disaster.htm

RichJamie K <Meta@Dimensional.com> wrote:
>
>Hey Gene, which FirmTek external drive system do you have and how do you

>like it?
>
>I'm evaluating external removable HD systems for my G5.
>
>Cheers,
> -Jamie
> www.JamieKrutz.com
>

Hi Jamie.
Check this post:
http://www.gearslutz.com/board/music-computers/80869-macbook -pro-fire.html

It works great for me. My laptop is smoking!
GeneThat second link doesn't work.

Rich

"Rich Lamanna" <richard.lamanna@verizon.net> wrote in message
news:462a6acf@linux...
> It's all relative. Looks like this is the worst school disaster in the
> history of the US. I think I'm numb.
>
> On May 18, 1927, 45 people, mostly children, were killed and 58 were<
Re: Yammy DM2000-I'm gonna die!!!! [message #82015 is a reply to message #82014] Fri, 23 March 2007 08:19 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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br /> injured
> when disgruntled and demented school board member Andrew Kehoe dynamited
the
> new school building in Bath, Michigan out of revenge over his foreclosed
> farm due in part to the taxes required to pay for the new school.
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bath_School_disaster
>
> http://freepages.history.rootsweb.co...e/disaster.htm
>
> Rich
>
>
>
>
>Obviously the better the video card the better the performance. Beryl (mentioned
in the other post) pretty much _is_ Compiz, it's a fork of it though if i
recall they've sorted things out and are planning on merging back together
sometime this year. IMHO Beryl would be the way to go, but it might not work
on your laptop. I tried it just for kicks and the integrated video no my
i915 based chipset didn't allow for much.

Nevertheless, it's great tech, and really stable. It's not some shaky skin
over the windowing system, it's the real deal. If any of the big boys (Cubase,
Live, etc) announced they would do a linux version I'd be there in a heartbeat.


Finally, check out Ubuntu Studio. It's still in its infancy but it's essentially
Feisty with all of the best audio/video/graphic design apps pre-installed
and configured. I don't know if it will even ever happen but it's worth keeping
an eye on it.

TCB

"Dedric Terry" <dedric@echomg.com> wrote:
>Thad - have you used/are you using XGL/Compiz? I came across a video
>demo of it - looks like it blows away the eye candy of Vista and OSX, at

>least from what
>I saw in the video. A bit over the top for normal audio or business app

>use, but I'm impressed
>lots of cool workflow possibilities there.
>
>If we were to get widespread audio app and driver support (and a few other

>apps/tools I would be dead in the
>water without), I would happily move to Ubuntu, but that's probably a long

>way off, if ever.
>
>Is it possible to network an Ubuntu/linux system with Windows XP machines?

>I might consider
>dual booting my laptop just for the heck of it. I'm guessing it is, at

>least on the linux end...
>
>Regards,
>Dedric
>
>"TCB" <nobody@ishere.com> wrote in message news:462a26ac$1@linux...
>>
>> OK, I'll try to be nice here. I'm hungover after a long night out with,

>> well,
>> a friend. OS X _might_ be the easy way to run _Unix_, but it has
>> absolutely
>> nothing to do with _linux_. Nothing. Nada. Zip. Zero. Not at the technical
>> level, not at the licensing level, not at the moral level, not at the

>> community
>> level, not at the pricing level.
>>
>> I realize you probably don't make those distinctions, but I actually take
>> offense at OS X being equated with linux. And I respond to DC regularly
so
>> I don't take offense at the drop of a hat.
>>
>> If you would like to take a look at actual linux, Ubuntu 7 just released,
>> Feisty Fawn. The install CD is actually a live CD, so you can boot off
the
>> CD and poke around a bit if you like. Beryl is installed but not enabled
>> by default, and if you turn it on you'll have all the eye candy you could
>> possible want, and not be stuck with a proprietary OS.
>>
>> TCB
>>
>> "Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>I wouldn't think it's like you to buy a Mac... I mean, for starters
>>>they're
>>>reliable...
>>>
>>>...and secondly, there's a point of view from which you could say that
Re: Yammy DM2000-I'm gonna die!!!! [message #82017 is a reply to message #82015] Fri, 23 March 2007 08:30 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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>> least one XP or 98 install for Paris, but I can run everything else
on
>>>
>>>>> Linux...
>>>>>
>>>>> ...audio software may be another thing, though I'm confident 2 years
>> from
>>>>> now we'll see movement towards Linux from mainstream audio apps also.
>>>
>>>>> Meanwhile,
>>>>> I imagine they will continue to support XP.
>>>>>
>>>>> XP support will be around a long while, as 98 was. Remember the bad

>>>>> press
>>>>> Windows ME got? And 98 ended up outlasting ME because of this. Now
look
>>>
>>>>> how
>>>>> much MORE bad press Vista has had.
>>>>>
>>>>> Windows days are over dude... IMHO... don't go Vista...
>>>>>
>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>> Kim.
>>>>>
>>>>> "TCB" <nobody@ishere.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>No Vista! Bad Deej! No biscuit! You spend night in kennel!
>>>>>>
>>>>>>TCB
>>>>>>
>>>>>>"DJ" <www.aarrrrggghhh!!!.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Cubase ain't 64bit yet, but will be in a few months. I can see the
=
>>>>>>>writing on the wall and I want to be able to go there, soooo......
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Here's what I'm looking at:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Intel BOXD975XBX2KR LGA 775 Intel 975X ATX Intel Motherbo-$249.99
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=3DN82E1681312 1059
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Intel Core 2 Extreme QX6700 Kentsfield 2.66GHz 2 x 4MB L2 Cache LGA
>> 775
>>>>>>=
>>>>>>>Processor (yeah...that's 10.64 GHz )-$970.00
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=3DN82E168191 15011
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>mushkin 2GB (2 x 1GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) Dual
=
>>>>>>>Channel Kit Desktop Memory - $149.99
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=3DN82E168201 46599
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>XFX PVT73GUGF3 GeForce 7600GT 256MB 128-bit GDDR3 PCI Express x16

>>>>>>>Video
>>>>>>=
>>>>>>>Card-$119.99
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=3DN82E168141 50185
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>COOLMAX CP-500T EPS12V 500W Power Supply 115/230 V UL, CSA, -59.99
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=3DN82E168171 59040
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Seven Slot PCI Express to PCI-X Expansion System-$2050.00
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> http://www.globalspec.com/FeaturedProducts/Detail/GEFanucEmb eddedSystems/=
>>>>>>>Seven_Slot_PCI_Express_to_PCIX_Expansion_System/17659/1
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>rough total: $3599.96
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>At this point I think I would have a workable 10+ GHZ system that
=
>>>>>>>*might* be able to run at 1.5ms without having to worry about ASIO
=
>>>>>>>direct monitoring while tracking projects that have FX on
>>>>>>>inserts/sends
>>>>>>=
>>>>>>>and still be able to utilize my existing PCI audio interfacing with
>> PCIe
>>>>>>=
>>>>>>>hardware without having to replace it with a mishmash combination
of
>>>=
>>>>>>>PCIe/PCI stuff and I would be 64 bit capable when the time comes and
>>>I
>>>>> =
>>>>>>>want to go to Vista and run 8G of RAM on the DAW.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>I really like the RME HDSP configuration I've got now with the
>>>>>>>Multiface
>>>>>>=
>>>>>>>and the 2 x HDSP 9652's with 16 AD/DA's on the ADI8-DS units and I

>>>>>>>don't
>>
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monitoring while tracking projects that have FX on
>>>>>>>inserts/sends
>>>>>>=
>>>>>>>and=20
>>>>>>>still be able to utilize my existing PCI audio interfacing with PCIe
>>>=
>>>>>>>hardware=20
>>>>>>>without having to replace it with a mishmash combination of PCIe/PCI
>>>=
>>>>>>>stuff and I=20
>>>>>>>would be 64 bit capable when the time comes and I want to go to Vista
>>>=
>>>>>>>and run 8G=20
>>>>>>>of RAM on the DAW.</FONT></P>
>>>>>>><P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I really like the RME HDSP
>>>>>>>configuration
>>>>>>=
>>>>>>>I've got now=20
>>>>>>>with the Multiface and the 2 x HDSP 9652's with 16 AD/DA's on the
=
>>>>>>>ADI8-DS units=20
>>>>>>>and I don't really want to spend the extra $$ on RME and UAD-1 PCIe
>> =
>>>>>>>hardware if=20
>>>>>>>I can just integrate my existing PCI hardware with the PCIe > PCi
SBS
>>>=
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>chassis. There might be a small hit to performance with the
>>>>>>>PCi>PCIe=20
>>>>>>>conversion as compared to interfacing PCIe directly with the mobo,
but
>>>>> =
>>>>>>>the new=20
>>>>>>>mobos don't have enough PCIe slots to allow me to use the number of
>> =
>>>>>>>cards I want=20
>>>>>>>to use without a PCIe expansion chassis anyway....and this will need
>>>to
>>>>>>=
>>>>>>>be 64=20
>>>>>>>bit eventually so there's a $2k expense, no matter how you cut it.
So
>>>=
>>>>>>>why=20
>>>>>>>upgrade PCI cards to PCIe if I can get a PCIe chassis that will =
>>>>>>>hold all my=20
>>>>>>>PCI cards and allow them to interface PCIe anyway?</FONT></P>
>>>>>>><P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>The reason I'm tempted to make the
move
>>>>> =
>>>>>>>now (besides=20
>>>>>>>wanting the horsepower) is that although the prices of the CPU's =
>>>>>>>will be=20
>>>>>>>coming down over the next few months, so will the price I'll be able
>>>to
>>>>>>=
>>>>>>>get for=20
>>>>>>>my Magma's since they are 32 bit units (although 2 x of them are
>>>>>>>capable
>>>>>>=
>>>>>>>of=20
>>>>>>>integrating the PCIe host card so this gives them a little added value
>>>>> =
>>>>>>>on=20
>>>>>>>EBay).</FONT></P>
>>>>>>><P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Any thoughts?</FONT></P>
>>>>>>><P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </P>
>>>>>>><P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </P>
>>>>>>><P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </P>
>>>>>>><P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </P></DIV></BODY></HTML>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>
>I've been hanging out on the AMDZone today trying to educate myself a bit.

In researching the Tyan S2915 mobo, I ran across this thread
http://forums.vr-zone.com/showthread.php?t=87410

and I also ran across this:

http://blogs.zdnet.com/Berlind/?p=366

What I'm wondering is if this mobo will be quad core compatible and what is
the most powerful CPU it will currently allow.

Opterons are very confusing...there are so many of them by so many different
Re: Yammy DM2000-I'm gonna die!!!! [message #82022 is a reply to message #82017] Fri, 23 March 2007 09:00 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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ee movement towards Linux from mainstream audio apps also.
>>>
>>>>> Meanwhile,
>>>>> I imagine they will continue to support XP.
>>>>>
>>>>> XP support will be around a long while, as 98 was. Remember the bad

>>>>> press
>>>>> Windows ME got? And 98 ended up outlasting ME because of this. Now
look
>>>
>>>>> how
>>>>> much MORE bad press Vista has had.
>>>>>
>>>>> Windows days are over dude... IMHO... don't go Vista...
>>>>>
>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>> Kim.
>>>>>
>>>>> "TCB" <nobody@ishere.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>No Vista! Bad Deej! No biscuit! You spend night in kennel!
>>>>>>
>>>>>>TCB
>>>>>>
>>>>>>"DJ" <www.aarrrrggghhh!!!.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Cubase ain't 64bit yet, but will be in a few months. I can see the
=
>>>>>>>writing on the wall and I want to be able to go there, soooo......
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Here's what I'm looking at:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Intel BOXD975XBX2KR LGA 775 Intel 975X ATX Intel Motherbo-$249.99
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=3DN82E1681312 1059
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Intel Core 2 Extreme QX6700 Kentsfield 2.66GHz 2 x 4MB L2 Cache LGA
>> 775
>>>>>>=
>>>>>>>Processor (yeah...that's 10.64 GHz )-$970.00
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=3DN82E168191 15011
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>mushkin 2GB (2 x 1GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) Dual
=
>>>>>>>Channel Kit Desktop Memory - $149.99
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=3DN82E168201 46599
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>XFX PVT73GUGF3 GeForce 7600GT 256MB 128-bit GDDR3 PCI Express x16

>>>>>>>Video
>>>>>>=
>>>>>>>Card-$119.99
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=3DN82E168141 50185
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>COOLMAX CP-500T EPS12V 500W Power Supply 115/230 V UL, CSA, -59.99
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=3DN82E168171 59040
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Seven Slot PCI Express to PCI-X Expansion System-$2050.00
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> http://www.globalspec.com/FeaturedProducts/Detail/GEFanucEmb eddedSystems/=
>>>>>>>Seven_Slot_PCI_Express_to_PCIX_Expansion_System/17659/1
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>rough total: $3599.96
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>At this point I think I would have a workable 10+ GHZ system that
=
>>>>>>>*might* be able to run at 1.5ms without having to worry about ASIO
=
>>>>>>>direct monitoring while tracking projects that have FX on
>>>>>>>inserts/sends
>>>>>>=
>>>>>>>and still be able to utilize my existing PCI audio interfacing with
>> PCIe
>>>>>>=
>>>>>>>hardware without having to replace it with a mishmash combination
of
>>>=
>>>>>>>PCIe/PCI stuff and I would be 64 bit capable when the time comes and
>>>I
>>>>> =
>>>>>>>want to go to Vista and run 8G of RAM on the DAW.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>I really like the RME HDSP configuration I've got now with the
>>>>>>>Multiface
>>>>>>=
>>>>>>>and the 2 x HDSP 9652's with 16 AD/DA's on the ADI8-DS units and I

>>>>>>>don't
>>>>>>=
>>>>>>>really want to spend the extra $$ on RME and UAD-1 PCIe hardware if
>> I
>>>=
>>>>>>>can just integrate my existing PCI hardware with the PCIe > PCi SBS
>> =
>>>>>>>chassis. There might be a small hit to performance with the PCi>PCIe
>>>=
>>>>>>>conversion as compared to interfacing PCIe directly with the mobo,
but
>>>>> =
>>>>>>>the new mobos don't have enough PCIe slots to allow me to use the

>>>>>>>number
>>>>>>=
>>>>>>>of cards I want to use without a PCIe expansion chassis anyway....and
>>>=
>>>>>>>this will need to be 64 bit eventually so there's a $2k expense, no
>> =
>>>>>>>matter how you cut it. So why upgrade PCI cards to PCIe if I can get
>>>a
>>>>> =
>>>>>>>PCIe chassis that will hold all my PCI cards and allow them to
>>>>>>>interface
&
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> I ran two shows on Sat. In the morning was a Veterans parade.
> Nice folks, well organized, good parade. COOL old WWII jeeps
> and other restored mil vehicles. Pro DJ's from local radio, did
> a great job announcing. 4+ hours of hard work...
>
> Ok, no sweat.
>
> Now one of my beloved college faculty was retiring and asked
> specifically for me to run sound for the event.
>
> I would never say no...
>
> Soooo, one jackass after another of the "performers" shows
> up with their Stack-O-CD's and tells me "yeah, just play track 1
> and then track 3 on disc 2, and then track 6 on disc 3 after a
> 30 second pause. yeah that's the ticket..."
>
> Gee, did you know that you could put all these on ONE DAMN
> CD?? With pauses and everything?? But nooo, I don't say a
> word.
>
> Then up comes the Dance Troupe with their iPod and sez
> "hey you got some RCA inputs on that there mixer?" This,
> of course is ten minutes before the event...
Re: Yammy DM2000-I'm gonna die!!!! [message #82048 is a reply to message #82038] Fri, 23 March 2007 16:31 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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t;>>Neil
>>>
>>>"DJ" <www.aarrrrggghhh!!!.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>I'm just using a standard ATA 133 IDE drive. Plenty of mojo for moderate
>>>
>>>=
>>>
>>>>track counts.=20
>>>>
>>>>I've testing the *usability* of working at 32k buffers, 64k buffers and
>>>
>>>=
>>>
>>>>128k buffers here this morning. I don't have the horsepower to record =
>>>>and play back tracks simultaneously at 32k buffers (0.7 ms). I did test
>>>
>>>=
>>>
>>>>recording a single track at 0.7 ms without any tracks playing back and
>>>
>>>=
>>>
>>>>I can do it, but it sounds a teeny bit phasey to me. Not a show stopper
>>>
>>>=
>>>
>>>>but definitely a difference when compared to using ASIO direct =
>>>>monitoring. I can play back 12 tracks and record 20 tracks with up to =
>>>>around 25% of the DSP usage of my UAD-1's on the recorded tracks without
>>>
>>>=
>>>
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.
>>>>> Deej,
>>>>> I've got that Silicon SATA on my Paris rig and it blows. Chris L. =
>>>>>suggested the same.
>>>>> I have had much better luck with standard ide.
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm glad you're not bailing so quickly!
>>>>> Tom
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "DJ" <www.aarrrrggghhh!!!.com> wrote in message =
>>>>>news:462d0cdc$1@linux...
>>>>> Well, from all of my previous posts, it's pretty obvious that I've
>>>>
>>>>=
>>>>
>>>>>been=20
>>>>> struggling with some issues with my system being able to track =
>>>>>lots of live=20
>>>>> inputs while monitoring previously recorded ones at low latency =
>>>>>with ASIO=20
>>>>> direct monitoring turned off.
>>>>>
>>>>> I've been doing some tweaking here this morning aand I just turned
>>>>
>>>>=
>>>>
>>>>>off that=20
>>>>> evil ****'in SIL SATA raid controller in the BIOS and pulled my =
>>>>>Raptors off=20
>>>>> the mobo.
>>>>>
>>>>> Something rather shocking has happened.
>>>>>
>>>>> I am currently playing back a 12 track project with Drumagog and =
>>>>>various=20
>>>>> UAD-1 plugins instantiated (not a huge load, but enough to =
>>>>>accomplish some=20
>>>>> ear candy which is all what I need here during dub sessions before
>>>>
>>>>=
>>>>
>>>>>the real=20
>>>>> mixing begins) while recording 20 live inputs at 64k buffers =
>>>>>(1.5ms),=20
>>>>> punching in and out at will. I can definitely live with 1.5ms =
>>>>>latency.
>>>>>
>>>>> The Cubase 4 CPU meter is bouncing along at approximately 50% =
>
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ell.
>>>>>
>>>>>;o)
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>
>Heck, we can all go there--I've been thrown out
of better places than that... :)

What part of town are you looking for a hotel?


"DJ" <www.aarrrrggghhh!!!.com> wrote:
>You don't need a passport. Denver is a *sanctuary city*. Everyone's welcome,

>and we won't turn you in.
>
>;o)
>
>"Don Nafe" <dnafe@magma.ca> wrote in message news:462e8dad$1@linux...
>> I'm thinking late night cocktails is the theme for the meet...I'd love
to
>> be there but alas my passport has expired and it looks like a minimum
six
>> week wait for a renewal...assuming of course I can find a Clergyman and
a
>> Lawyer willing to vouch for me
>>
>> :-)
>>
>> DOn
>>
>>
>> "DJ" <www.aarrrrggghhh!!!.com> wrote in message news:462e6512$1@linux...
>>> You up for some company there Thurs nite? I seriously wouldn't want to

>>> interfere with a reunion between old friends and would certainly
>>> understand if this wasn'tworkable. I'm just thinking that this might
be
>>> an easy way to get some folks together in one room.
>>>
>>> ......but then again, my thinking gets me into trouble on a regular
>>> basis........
>>>
>>> ;o)
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> "John Macy" <spamlessjohn@johnmacy.com> wrote in message
>>> news:462e4db2$1@linux...
>>>>
>>>> www.swallowhill.com
>>>>
>>>> Pretty cool place...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "DJ" <www.aarrrrggghhh!!!.com> wrote:
>>>>>Swallow Hill ? I've heard of that place. I think some of my studio
>>>>>clients..............http://www.waywordsons.com/ .............have
>>>>>talked
>>>> to
>>>>>me about it. They may have played there before as well. Can't remember

>>>>>for
>>>>
>>>>>sure, but IIRC, the word was good.
>>>>>
>>>>>;o)
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>"John Macy" <spamlessjohn@johnmacy.com> wrote in message
>>>>>
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medal for even trying this.


DC

"Don Nafe" <dnafe@magma.ca> wrote:


>the short quick answerto that is no!
>
>Actually this was a "proof of concept" gig and a system shakedown. The

>front end was supposed to be Sawstudio used in live mode. Unfortunately
the
>rig owner wasn't familiar enough with Saw to get it to work properly so
he
>just threw up Nuendo and off we went.
>
>That being said it's biggest advantage is the access to EQ, Compression,

>Limiters etc live. It;s really nice to be able to dial in dynamics unheard

>of in small PA systems...the downside was mixing by mouse...absolutely
>horrible. That and no power backup (UPS)almost fried his rack od Pres and

>converters when all hell broke loose.
>
>All in all it was a hair raising gig...thoroughly enjoyable (in hindsight)

>but wow what a ride.
>
>Would I do it again? Not without some kind of control surface and
>definitely not with Nuendo....we've since got SawStudio playing nice in
live
>mode and I wouldn't hesitate to use it as it's quite easy to work in but

>until a control surface is integrated with the system I'll stick to some

>sort of console.
>
>Don
>
>"Mark McCurdy" <mark@mccurdy.net> wrote in message news:462ccb7a@linux...
>
>
> http://www.papertoilet.com/
>
>


Chris,

Thank you so much. I'll look into Raid 0. I like the idea of being
able to use my IDE drives as backup for the Raid!

In general, I'm only playing back this many tracks for mixes, and it's
an extreme example. When mix clients use 96k, I want a system that
doesn't sputter when trying to handle it (which my P4 2.53 does now with
lots of track freezing).

I'll see if I can swing the Quad -- frankly most of the plugins I want
to run are CPU hungry... so I guess I don't really have a choice there!
lol...

Thanks,

GrahamOil Change instructions for Women:

1) Pull up to Jiffy Lube when the mileage reaches
3000 miles since the last
oil change.
2) Drink a cup of coffee
3) 15 minutes later, write a check and leave with a
properly maintained
vehicle.

Money spent:
Oil Change: $20.00
Coffee: $1.00
Total: $21.00


Oil Change instructions for men:

1) Wait until Saturday, drive to auto parts store
and buy a case of oil,
filter, kitty litter, hand cleaner and a scented
tree, write a check for
$50.00.
2) Stop by 7/11 and buy a case of beer, write a
check for $20, drive home.
3) Open a beer and drink it.
4) Jack car up. Spend 30 minutes looking for jack
stands.
5) Find jack stands under kid's pedal car.
6) In frustration, open another beer and drink it.
7) Place drain pan under engine.
8) Look for 9/16 box end wrench.
9) Give up and use crescent wrench.
10) Unscrew drain plug.
11) Drop drain plug in pan of hot oil: splash hot
oil on you in process. Cuss.
12) Crawl out from under car to wipe hot oil off of
face and arms. Throw kitty litter on spilled oil.
13) Have another beer while watching oil drain.
14) Spend 30 minutes looking for oil filter wrench.
15) Give up; crawl under car and hammer a
screwdriver through oil filter and twist off.
16) Crawl out from under car with dripping oil
filter splashing oil everywhere from holes. Cleverly hide old oil filter
among trash in trash can
to avoid environmental penalties. Drink a beer.
17) Install new oil filter making sure to apply a
thin coat of oil to gasket
surface.
18) Dump first quart of fresh oil into engine.
19) Remember drain plug from step 11.
20) Hurry to find drain plug in drain pan.
21) Drink beer.
22) Discover that first quart of fresh oil is now on
the floor. Throw kitty
litter on oil spill.
23) Get drain plug back in with only a minor spill.
Drink beer.
24) Crawl under car getting kitty litter into eyes.
Wipe eyes with oily rag
used to clean drain plug. Slip with stupid crescent
wrench tightening drain
plug and bang knuckles on frame removing any excess
skin between knuckles
and frame.
25) Begin cussing fit.
26) Throw stupid crescent wrench.
27) Cuss for additional 5 minutes because wrench hit
bowling trophy.
28) Beer.
29) Clean up hands and bandage as required to stop
blood flow.
30) Beer.
31) Dump in five fresh quarts of oil.
32) Beer.
33) Lower car from jack stands.
34) Move car back to apply more kitty litter to
fresh oil spilled during any
missed steps.
35) Beer.
36) Test drive car.
37) Get pulled over: arrested for dri ving under the
influence.
38) Car gets impounded.
39) Call loving wife, make bail.
40) 12 hours later, get car from impound yard.

Money spent:
Parts $50.00
DUI $2500.00
Impound fee $75.00
Bail $1500.00
Beer $20.00
Total $4,145.00
(But you know the job was done right!)On Tue, 24 Apr 2007 21:03:25 -0600, "DJ" <www.aarrrrggghhh!!!.com>
wrote:

>No clue about a hotel yet. I'm gonna rent a Mustang convertible for the trip
>though (I'd rent something else, but Mustangs are all they've got around
>here). If I was 40 years younger I'd just sleep in the car (or not sleep at
>all)
>
>You know of any reasonable hotels in the area that would put up with an old
>reprobate like me? I'll promise not to mod anything.
>
>;o)
>

If this goes w
Re: Yammy DM2000-I'm gonna die!!!! [message #82075 is a reply to message #82068] Sat, 24 March 2007 11:26 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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g vast quantities of methane which can then
be piped to a power plant for use in generating electricity so you can run
an Apple computer.The 5 year old parts in the picture should give the lucky owner the
power of a first gen g5 so yes it is a good idea.


James McCloskey wrote:
> It looks like a Mac and runs like a PC; )
>
> Chris Ludwig <chrisl@adkproaudio.com> wrote:
>> Hi James,
>>
>> No matter what parts you stick inside that thing it still not be as cool
>
>> as a PC.
>> :)
>> Chris
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> James McCloskey wrote:
>>> I think this is what you've always wanted!
>>>
>>> http://detroit.craigslist.org/sys/318600734.html
>> --
>> Chris Ludwig
>>
>> ADK Pro Audio
>> (859) 635-5762
>> www.adkproaudio.com
>> chrisl@adkproaudio.com
>

--
Chris Ludwig

ADK Pro Audio
(859) 635-5762
www.adkproaudio.com
chrisl@adkproaudio.comHi DJ,
I'm sure all the Chinese, Taiwanese, Malaysian and Indian wage slaves
that make IPods, mac, ITV, Iphones will be able to sleep at night
knowing that Apple cares so much for the world.....
Apple will now only be selling them $2 a bowl organic rice at the
company general store which they can buy with their $1 a day income.

Sure hope Microsoft don't rip off this idea from Apple too...


DJ wrote:
> "erlilo" <erlilo@nospamonline.no> wrote in message news:4630b207@linux...
>> Hmmmmm.... .....there's not allways health in an "Apple".....
>> ....hmmmmmm....
>>
>> http://www.greenmyapple.com/
>>
>> Erling
>
> Duuuuude!!! Everything should be made from hemp. If it ain't hemp, it ain't
> hip! I am working on an alternative fuel made from hemp right now. It seems
> that you can burn this stuff and pipe the smoke into a sealed room full of
> kids...........they will, in turn start eating copious amounts of vile junk
> food and evenutally start emitting vast quantities of methane which can then
> be piped to a power plant for use in generating electricity so you can run
> an Apple computer.
>
>
>

--
Chris Ludwig

ADK Pro Audio
(859) 635-5762
www.adkproaudio.com
chrisl@adkproaudio.comHi there,

Thought you guys might be interested in this Tiger Direct deal. I just rec'd
mine from them last week.

http://www.techbargains.com/news_displayitem.cfm/88494

Cheers,
JonHave you tried:
1 - Routing something OTHER than Insert Sends to these ADAT outputs (Main
Outs, Auxes etc)?
2 - Switching the EDS card / MEC assignment in the Master Mixer (ie, if the
troublesome ADAT outs are on MEC1 connected to Submix 1 playing off CardA,
does the same problem exist when you assign MEC1 / CardA to Submix 2 etc)
3 - Changing your EDS cards (basically, label them, pull them out, and put
them in the same PCI slots, in a different order - put a different EDS card
in the slot for the ADAT MEC).

I had a similar problem, but it was ADAT OUT 3 and 4 on MEC1 connected to
EDS Card A in a three card system on WinME. On this same MEC, there were a
total of (2) ADAT, (2) 8-input, (2) 8-output.

I had the same symptoms though - swapped ADAT cards and OUT 3 and 4 still
didn't wor, but the "bad" card suddenly worked in a different hole. The
"good" card displayed the same problem as the "bad" one.

I yanked and moved the EDS cards in my system and connected the MEC to a
different Card A and the problem went away with both the original ADAT and
the swapped ADAT.

I concluded it to be an EDS Insert problem on a specific EDS card - not an
OS thing. Something about the way the Insert Sends were handled on that EDS
card. Could be a loose connection on a board, a bad or dying chip etc. I
never bothered to check if you could route Auxes or Mains to the same
questionable outputs (and if I couldn't, it would be a bigger problem).

Sandy

"Dimitrios" <musurgio@otenet.gr> wrote in message news:463081a9$1@linux...
>
> So I have confirmed that at least under XP ,don't know if it is OS related
> bug, There is a bug where the track 5 and 6 of ADAT Paris OUT do NOT work.
> Out of four adat cards I have the three confirm this !
> The only case the fourth works is inside the mec where ONLY TWO adat cards
> are installed without any other in out cards.
> I don't know if I would take out my input cards if that woukld be solved
> but really cannot take that trouble right now !
> I thought in the beginning that one of my adat cards were faulty but three
> with same 5,6 SEND ONLY adat ports not working ?? nehh
> Well the ADAT INS work !! , I mean the 5,5 adat inputs work.
> So the problem is you cannot closse the adat loop for insert purpose on
> tracks
> 5 and 6.
> I even changed the eds card as EDNA suggested but same results so this has
> eliminated the EDS card problem.
> Well I don't know if I have 3 out of 4 eds cards malfunctioning ...
> I would like someone from you if he could thest somehow the above
> scenario.
> I would appreciatte.
> Regards,
> Dimitriosand don't forget their health plan...idon'tcare

On Thu, 26 Apr 2007 11:58:10 -0400, Chris Ludwig
<chrisl@adkproaudio.com> wrote:

>Hi DJ,
>I'm sure all the Chinese, Taiwanese, Malaysian and Indian wage slaves
>that
Re: Yammy DM2000-I'm gonna die!!!! [message #82076 is a reply to message #82068] Sat, 24 March 2007 11:33 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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make IPods, mac, ITV, Iphones will be able to sleep at night
>knowing that Apple cares so much for the world.....
>Apple will now only be selling them $2 a bowl organic rice at the
>company general store which they can buy with their $1 a day income.
>
>Sure hope Microsoft don't rip off this idea from Apple too...
>
>
>DJ wrote:
>> "erlilo" <erlilo@nospamonline.no> wrote in message news:4630b207@linux...
>>> Hmmmmm.... .....there's not allways health in an "Apple".....
>>> ....hmmmmmm....
>>>
>>> http://www.greenmyapple.com/
>>>
>>> Erling
>>
>> Duuuuude!!! Everything should be made from hemp. If it ain't hemp, it ain't
>> hip! I am working on an alternative fuel made from hemp right now. It seems
>> that you can burn this stuff and pipe the smoke into a sealed room full of
>> kids...........they will, in turn start eating copious amounts of vile junk
>> food and evenutally start emitting vast quantities of methane which can then
>> be piped to a power plant for use in generating electricity so you can run
>> an Apple computer.
>>
>>
>>I'll be in Co. Springs on the 3rd. My gigs going to be a balls to the wall
situation, time wise though, I doubt that I'll be able to break free, to
get up to Denver.
Rod
"DJ" <www.aarrrrggghhh!!!.com> wrote:
>Rod,
>
>You still gonna' be in Denver on the 3rd?
>
>Deej
>
>"Rod Lincoln" <rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com> wrote in message
>news:46302161$1@linux...
>>
>> Yeah, I got some great news today too. My engine in my van blew and needs
>> a complete replacement. Almost 5k. The book on the van is 3k......geesh
>> rod
>> 80(
>> "Aaron Allen" <know-spam@not_here.dude> wrote:
>>>nah, we're gonna crash someone's gig and then sleep in their band van.
>>>
>>>LOL
>>>
>>>Hey man, seriously... you coming out for it? Would love to meet ya in

>>>person
>>
>>>after years of mutual harrassme... I mean, respect :P
>>>
>>>Sorry, feeling giddy - got some great personal news today, heh...
>>>
>>>AA
>>>
>>>"Neil" <IUIU@OIU.com> wrote in message news:462f99d7$1@linux...
>>>>
>>>> "Aaron Allen" <know-spam@not_here.dude> wrote:
>>>>>This is prolly doable for me if the invite is up, but I'll need a bit
>> of
>>>>
>>>>>time to find a hotel and settle in for a few. Anyone got a suggestion
>> on
>>>>
>>>>>hotels / motels in the area?
>>>>
>>>> I thought we were all just going to stay in Deej's barn & jam
>>>> out in his studio.
>>>>
>>>> If we're not gonna do all that, then count me out.
>>>>
>>>> :)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>
>AARRGHH! That what my van is ...a Windstar.
Rod
"John Macy" <spamlessjohn@johnmacy.com> wrote:
>
>I had to put a tranny in my wife's Windstar last week,
>$1850. Kinda cramps the gear budget...
>
>
>"DJ" <www.aarrrrggghhh!!!.com> wrote:
>>Same thing happened to me last summer. sorry man........
>>
>>"Rod Lincoln" <rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com> wrote in message
>>news:46302161$1@linux...
>>>
>>> Yeah, I got some great news today too. My engine in my van blew and needs
>>> a complete replacement. Almost 5k. The book on the van is 3k......geesh
>>> rod
>>> 80(
>>> "Aaron Allen" <know-spam@not_here.dude> wrote:
>>>>nah, we're gonna crash someone's gig and then sleep in their band van.
>>>>
>>>>LOL
>>>>
>>>>Hey man, seriously... you coming out for it? Would love to meet ya in
>
>>>>person
>>>
>>>>after years of mutual harrassme... I mean, respect :P
>>>>
>>>>Sorry, feeling giddy - got some great personal news today, heh...
>>>>
>>>>AA
>>>>
>>>>"Neil" <IUIU@OIU.com> wrote in message news:462f99d7$1@linux...
>>>>>
>>>>> "Aaron Allen" <know-spam@not_here.dude> wrote:
>>>>>>This is prolly doable for me if the invite is up, but I'll need a bit
>>> of
>>>>>
>>>>>>time to find a hotel and settle in for a few. Anyone got a suggestion
>>> on
>>>>>
>>>>>>hotels / motels in the area?
>>>>>
>>>>> I thought we were all just going to stay in Deej's barn & jam
>>>>> out in his studio.
>>>>>
>>>>> If we're not gonna do all that, then count me out.
>>>>>
>>>>> :)
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>Yeah there's a plan! I'm takin this gorgeous readheaded babe out for our 28th
wedding anniversary. The 5th is our anniversary. 28 years and the flame still
burns.
Steve

"Aaron Allen" <know-spam@not_here.dude> wrote:
>nah, we're gonna crash someone's gig and then sleep in their band van.
>
>LOL
>
>Hey man, seriously...
Re: Yammy DM2000-I'm gonna die!!!! [message #82080 is a reply to message #82068] Sat, 24 March 2007 12:21 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Messages: 828
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et="_blank">rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com> wrote:
>
>I'll be in Co. Springs on the 3rd. My gigs going to be a balls to the wall
>situation, time wise though, I doubt that I'll be able to break free, to
>get up to Denver.
>Rod
>"DJ" <www.aarrrrggghhh!!!.com> wrote:
>>Rod,
>>
>>You still gonna' be in Denver on the 3rd?
>>
>>Deej
>>
>>"Rod Lincoln" <rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com> wrote in message
>>news:46302161$1@linux...
>>>
>>> Yeah, I got some great news today too. My engine in my van blew and needs
>>> a complete replacement. Almost 5k. The book on the van is 3k......geesh
>>> rod
>>> 80(
>>> "Aaron Allen" <know-spam@not_here.dude> wrote:
>>>>nah, we're gonna crash someone's gig and then sleep in their band van.
>>>>
>>>>LOL
>>>>
>>>>Hey man, seriously... you coming out for it? Would love to meet ya in
>
>>>>person
>>>
>>>>after years of mutual harrassme... I mean, respect :P
>>>>
>>>>Sorry, feeling giddy - got some great personal news today, heh...
>>>>
>>>>AA
>>>>
>>>>"Neil" <IUIU@OIU.com> wrote in message news:462f99d7$1@linux...
>>>>>
>>>>> "Aaron Allen" <know-spam@not_here.dude> wrote:
>>>>>>This is prolly doable for me if the invite is up, but I'll need a bit
>>> of
>>>>>
>>>>>>time to find a hotel and settle in for a few. Anyone got a suggestion
>>> on
>>>>>
>>>>>>hotels / motels in the area?
>>>>>
>>>>> I thought we were all just going to stay in Deej's barn & jam
>>>>> out in his studio.
>>>>>
>>>>> If we're not gonna do all that, then count me out.
>>>>>
>>>>> :)
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>Hi Sarah,

Thanks for giving me the benefit of the doubt. Here is why Scientology
is opposed to psychiatry: While Scientology is not used primarily for
fixing up psychotic people, we certainly have the tools to do so. You
cannot improve a person by addressing him or her as an animal, a bag of
chemicals or a piece of meat. Hubbard discovered that the only approach
which actually made anyone better was to address the individual as a
spiritual being.

Knowing that and seeing how psychiatry addresses people like animals
with such horrendously destructive "treatment" we can not stand by and
ignore it. Therefore we do everything we can to discourage it. By the
way, the hospital 5 miles from my house has a very active electro
convulsive therapy department. I well understand your belief that it
must be ancient history as it so incredibly inhumane, but believe it -
they are still doing it.

You might find a movie I saw on YouTube recently enlightening.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KFbs8s3VI6M
It's of a woman who wrote a book entitled "Confessions of an RX Drug
Pusher", who worked as a drug company sales rep for 15 years before she
realized what she was really selling. Here's a quote:

"...So I started to question. There were a group of people that were
out rallying one time in front of one of the buildings that we were
approaching and my District Manager says, “Oh, that’s a bunch of
Scientologists. They’re, you know, all those crazy people. They belong
to a cult. They’re all anti psychiatric drugs. In fact, any time anybody
isn’t for psychiatric drugs, if you just label them a Scientologist,
that’ll discredit them because everybody knows they’re crazy.”

"So that kind of became my, you know, little tag line for anybody that
spoke out against psychiatric drugs, because I knew then that you could
label them as a Scientologist and people didn’t know anything about
Scientology, but they’d already gotten a bad rap because the
pharmaceutical industry was promoting that they were a cult that was
basically just out to destroy the psychiatric industry.”

Shortly after WW2, at its annual convention, the American Psychiatric
Assoc held a meeting and outlined their goals for America. One of the
primary goals was to create a "value neutral society". That means a
society in which there is no right or wrong, no one judges another,
there are no values. That goal has in many way come to pass. The term,
"don't judge me" is common in society, yet if we don't use judgment in
dealing with others we are truly fools. In law sanity itself is defined
by the ability to tell right from wrong.

So let's see the results: Jails are over flowing. Millions of people
take antipsychotic drugs just to cope. CHILDREN are given class 1 (Class
A?, you would know) narcotics. As our technologies improve our children
get a poorer education. Look at our schools, they now have psychologists
on staff. Back when children all learned to read there were none. I
could give dozens of examples of what a value neutral society means to
the detriment of us all, and I bet you could too.

Do you still wonder why I and other Scientologists are against psychiatry?

Bill L



Sarah wrote:
> I've been pretty appalled by the seemingly exponential rise in the use of
> psychiatric medications over the last 20 years, especially in children. I
> don't believe that depression necessarily caused by a "chemical imbalance."
> Correlation is not causation. Of course a person may feel less depressed if
> you keep their synapses saturated with serotonin, but sometimes they wind up
> not feeling much of anyt
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morganp@ntplx.netI think you probably bought those from me, maybe.....the only thing I'm sure
about is that the price was $4000.00 and I haven't received the money yet.

;o)





(seriously though....I have checked my stuff and though we talked about a
Magma a while back, it never happened. You have made me paranoid though and
now I'm gonna do a system backup.)

Deej


"Don Nafe" <dnafe@magma.ca> wrote in message news:46336607$1@linux...
> For some reason Outlook Express has inadvertently "lost" all my 2006
> emails (as I was cleaning house) and I can't find any correspondence
> regarding these two purchases
>
> I bought a MEC and a Blue ADAT card from two different people.
>
> So if I bought something from you could you email me with the price I paid
>
> Thanks
>
> Don
>
>
>My Apologies Deej

Cheque's in the mail

:-)

D


"DJ" <www.aarrrrggghhh!!!.com> wrote in message news:46336f33@linux...
>I think you probably bought those from me, maybe.....the only thing I'm
>sure about is that the price was $4000.00 and I haven't received the money
>yet.
>
> ;o)
>
>
>
>
>
> (seriously though....I have checked my stuff and though we talked about a
> Magma a while back, it never happened. You have made me paranoid though
> and now I'm gonna do a system backup.)
>
> Deej
>
>
> "Don Nafe" <dnafe@magma.ca> wrote in message news:46336607$1@linux...
>> For some reason Outlook Express has inadvertently "lost" all my 2006
>> emails (as I was cleaning house) and I can't find any correspondence
>> regarding these two purchases
>>
>> I bought a MEC and a Blue ADAT card from two different people.
>>
>> So if I bought something from you could you email me with the price I
>> paid
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> Don
>>
>>
>>
>
>Looking for TC to email me

ThanksDJ,

I said a "drug dealer" not a drug taker.

Bill L

DJ wrote:
> "Bill L" <bill@billlorentzen.com> wrote in message news:46335089@linux...
>> Hi Sarah,
>>
>> I feel like this is our private thread and I almost wrote back to you
>> alone, but you never know who may be lurking.
>
> :o)
> I am everywhere.............you cant escape!!!
>
>
>> Hubbard was not opposed to use of whatever is efficacious to prevent
>> someone from hurting himself. He was as I stated eminently practical. But
>> continued use he would not tolerate when there are simple ways to help
>> people quickly recover from the dangerous condition.
>>
>> I would never fault a nurse or Dr. for doing what they had to do to keep
>> the patient alive or un-self-damaged.
>>
>> As for evil people, from the extreme like Hitler to the mundane but all
>> too common wife who poisons her husband, of course they have it justified.
>> In one of Hubbards articles he talks about characteristics of evil people
>> and the specific ways you can identify them socially and at the end he
>> says if you started to see some of these characteristics as being your own
>> that disqualifies you from being really evil because the truly evil cannot
>> see that what they do is evil. They are living in a world we do not even
>> see. They look at a policeman and see a Roman centurion. To them a lady
>> offering samples of peanut butter in the supermarket is really their
>> mother making them eat something they hate.
>
> ........errrrr................that would be a paraniod person Bill
>
>> I always thought the insanity plea in court was a crock because most
>> things that we consider criminal ARE insane acts. How can you say that
>> someone who kills another for personal gain or jealousy or whatever is
>> sane?
>
> they may or may not be insane, but killing for the reasons you describe are
> certainly evil.
>
> Being a drug dealer or a theif is totally insane. Look at the
>> lives they have to lead, sneaking around scared most of the time -
>> wouldn't you have to be insane to choose that?
>
> .....drug dependan
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