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Rob Arsenault is currently offline  Rob Arsenault   CANADA
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>>of knowledge here on audio in general, and that's - personally -
>>why I prefer to hang here more than any other audio forum.
>
>Quite true, and it even goes beyond just audio in some cases. I've learned
>plenty of non-audio computer related stuff for example. Basically it's a
>group of intelligent people with similar interests, so very often, if you're
>into it, somebody on here will know about it.

True, and not just restricted to computers, even... I'll bet if
you ask "What's the best way to re-jet and rebuild a carburetor
on a '72 Camaro with a 305 engine in order to get me another
20 or so horsepower?", someone here will refer you to the best
Re: Ghost saves the day [message #65188 is a reply to message #65173] Mon, 06 March 2006 08:39 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Rod Lincoln is currently offline  Rod Lincoln
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arpegio@comcast.net" target="_blank">arpegio@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>
>Steve,
>Make sure your second Mec is attached to EDS card C!!!
>Your problems will be solved. You can still assign it to=20
>Submix B in the Group Master if needed.
>
>Let me guess? You can enable the tracks to record but nothing
>ever prints from the second Mec right? =20
>
>Good luck,
>Tom
> "Dave(EK Sound)" <audioguy_editout_@shaw.ca> wrote in message =
>news:443c647e$1@linux...
> Hi Steve,
>
> I have done this many times. We have a 5 card, 2 MEC system=20
> operating. Each MEC has two 8it cards for 16 inputs per=20
> MEC. I patch all 16 card inputs to mixer channels on both=20
> MEC's, arm and press record... it's that
Re: Ghost saves the day [message #65194 is a reply to message #65188] Mon, 06 March 2006 11:38 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Rich[3] is currently offline  Rich[3]
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lt;BR>MEC.  I patch all 16 card inputs to mixer channels on both =
><BR>MEC's,=20
> arm and press record... it's that easy.  Do you have <BR>any =
>specific=20
> questions about this? if so, fire away.<BR><BR>David.<BR><BR>Steve Cox
=
>
> wrote:<BR>> Loaded...16 all litepipe.<BR>> Steve<BR>> "Aaron =
>Allen"=20
> <<A =
>href=3D"mailto:nospam@not_here.dude">nospam@not_here.dude</A>>=20
> wrote:<BR>> <BR>>>How many inputs do you have on each EDS=20
> card?<BR>>>AA<BR>>><BR>>>"Steve Cox" <<A=20
> href=3D"mailto:stevec1@charter.net">stevec1@charter.net</A>> wrote =
>in message=20
> <A=20
> =
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Re: Ghost saves the day [message #65197 is a reply to message #65173] Mon, 06 March 2006 11:14 Go to previous messageGo to next message
duncan is currently offline  duncan   UNITED STATES
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>
>For some time there has been a migration away from Paris by former Paris
>users. Some people have tried to justify their own choice by saying things
>like the waters are safe in PT land, or PT sounds better than Paris. It
>is discouraging to paris users, and kind of trolling. Some PT users have
>actually come here in the past just to troll, and it didn't help our group
>much. It is psychological, it makes you feel like your missing out, or
your
>getting left behind. When BT left, a lot of people went with him so to
speak.
> For the others that are going to switch, if you got to go, Ok, but don't
>drag people away with you by knocking Paris. We need to encourage people
>to stick around. This NG is shrinking!
>
> I remember vary well a certain somebody, who I will leave unnamed; ) raved
>about Nuendo for months on end. Now that certain somebody is not so sure
>that Nuendo is better sounding than Paris! ; ) A couple of guys here that
>thought Nuendo was the answer to Paris are now questioning Nuendo. Some
>times other stuff just sounds different, and initially perceived as being
>better. Of course paris was left behind feature wise, and some people love
>the whiz-bang of all that. Others prefer the capabilities and the working
>methods of newer software. There will always be something to come out that
>will be more slick than Paris. Paris is still pretty slick and vary useable.
Re: Ghost saves the day [message #65201 is a reply to message #65197] Mon, 06 March 2006 15:58 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Rob Arsenault is currently offline  Rob Arsenault   CANADA
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sting posts to shuffle through....
>>>>
>>>> My PT's rig is going very well. It took me and the pro tools rep less
>>>>than 48 hours to completely swap over systems. That includes the new
console
>>>>and surrounding furniture.
>>>>
>>>> The main difference to me with the mix bus in PT's, as opposed to
>Paris,
>>>>is how much larger it is. Its easier to get cloudy in Paris. Im still
>running
>>>>at 48KHz on PT's. Paris certainly was a great way to spend 6 years, but
>>>things
>>>>really have progressed in the Digidesign world.
>>>>
>>>> Just a few thoughts.....
>>>>
>>>>Cheers
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>"Mike R." <emarenot@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>>>Hey Dave
>>>>>You know, this group could almost be newly titled to include current
>Paris
>>>>>users and Paris users who have moved on to other systems, or Paris users
>>>>who
>>>>>are using other systems with Paris. For me the greatest loss is when
>>folks
>>>>>leave Paris and then this NG. I hope you'll stick around.
>>>>>Cheers,
>>>>>MR
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>"Dave Parkin" <dave@blackbirdstudio.com.au> wrote in message
>>>>>news:441d9384$1@linux...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Howdy all.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Sad but exciting moment has arrived. My last Paris tracking happened
>>>>>> tonight. Six years Paris has been a loyal friend to me, but its time
>>>to
>>>>>move
>>>>>> on.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> My Pro Tools rig has arrived, and Im setting it up this week. I
>bought
>>>>>> a Pro tools HD3 accel PCI-e rig, with a control 24, and a dual 2.0
>G5.
>>>>>Hence
>>>>>> the excitement.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> paris has treated me well. Ive done a number of records on it that
>>>have
>>>>>> done quite well here in Australia. I have won Engineer/producer of
>the
>>>>>year
>>>>>> for the last 2 years here in Western Australia, and I truly believe
>>Paris
>>>>>> added something to my s
Re: Ghost saves the day [message #65202 is a reply to message #65201] Mon, 06 March 2006 18:43 Go to previous messageGo to next message
duncan is currently offline  duncan   UNITED STATES
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ound that other digital studios couldnt achieve.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I am keeping my Paris rig, cuz i cant entirely let go yet.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Cheers to ya all.!!!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Dave
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>Is an MEC only capable of sending 16 channels, regardless of how many Adat
optical cards it has?
Steve

"Steve Cox" <stevec1@charter.net> wrote:
>
>Ahhh, So the trick is a second MEC to the second card? If I have 3 cards,
>how does this show up in the busses? I take it if a card has an MEC on it
>It will record?
>So here's a given scenario: 3 cards, 3 Busses, 2 MECs. Buss-1 says "A" Buss-2
>says "B" Buss-3 Says "C" Now BUSS 1 has an MEC and Buss 2 has the second
>MEC. You're saying that Buss 1 and 2 will record simultaneously but Bus
3
>can only be playback (because it does have a card), therefore doesn't need
>to be updated?
>Thanks... Steve
>
>"Dave(EK Sound)" <audioguy_editout_@shaw.ca> wrote:
>>Hi Steve,
>>
>>I have done this many times. We have a 5 card, 2 MEC system
>>operating. Each MEC has two 8it cards for 16 inputs per
>>MEC. I patch all 16 card inputs to mixer channels on both
>>MEC's, arm and press record... it's that easy. Do you have
>>any specific questions about this? if so, fire away.
>>
>>David.
>>
>>Steve Cox wrote:
>>> Loaded...16 all litepipe.
>>> Steve
>>> "Aaron Allen" <nospam@not_here.dude> wrote:
>>>
>>>>How many inputs do you have on each EDS card?
>>>>AA
>>>>
>>>>"Steve Cox" <stevec1@charter.net> wrote in message news:443c492a$1@linux...
>>>>
>>>>>Though I have 3 EDS cards for each computer, 2 control 16s for each
also
>>>
>>>
>>>>>MECs,
>>>>>through the years I have not figured out yet how to record 32 Tracks
>
>>>>>simultaneously.
>>>>>Can this be done?
>>>>>Steve
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>I choose Polesoft Lockspam to fight spam, and you?
>>>>http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>no, the trick is the this.. I'll use my setup as an example
EDS 1, mixer A, MEC1
EDS 2, mixer B, -no interface-
EDS 3, mixer C, MEC2

Make sure you have a wordclock cable of quality from MEC1 to MEC2
You will be able to stream 24 channels per MEC, but only record 16 per MEC
(due to channel limitations, but you can push more audio down the auxes if
you have the inputs). Be aware that
Re: Ghost saves the day [message #65203 is a reply to message #65173] Mon, 06 March 2006 19:47 Go to previous messageGo to next message
wmarkwilson is currently offline  wmarkwilson   UNITED STATES
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there is a known latency between Card A
and Card B reported of 10 - 14 samples, then 2 samples per each card
thereafter.

AA


"Steve Cox" <stevec1@charter.net> wrote in message news:443c72d6$1@linux...
>
> Ahhh, So the trick is a second MEC to the second card? If I have 3 cards,
> how does this show up in the busses? I take it if a card has an MEC on it
> It will record?
> So here's a given scenario: 3 cards, 3 Busses, 2 MECs. Buss-1 says "A"
> Buss-2
> says "B" Buss-3 Says "C" Now BUSS 1 has an MEC and Buss 2 has the second
> MEC. You're saying that Buss 1 and 2 will record simultaneously but Bus 3
> can only be playback (because it does have a card), therefore doesn't need
> to be updated?
> Thanks... Steve
>
> "Dave(EK Sound)" <audioguy_editout_@shaw.ca> wrote:
>>Hi Steve,
>>
>>I have done this many times.
Re: Ghost saves the day [message #65218 is a reply to message #65173] Tue, 07 March 2006 02:08 Go to previous message
TCB is currently offline  TCB
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playing field. It seems to all about convenience and loudness these
days, though I don't think that the new PT HD sounds bad either. There are 5
studios here, .mine, one that uses DP and 3 that use PTHD. All of us can
produce a professional sounding product. I'm going to be working more at 96k
in the future which will keep me *in the box* and native. It will be really
interesting to learn to mix more conservatively. I've never done it.

Regards,
Deej

"gene lennon" <glennon@NOSPmyrealbox.com> wrote in message
news:443c852c$1@linux...
>
>
> I sold my PT rig when I switched to Paris. I did it at the time primarily
> for the sound of the Paris mix bus. This was before HD.
>
> When HD was released, the distinction was far less obvious. HD still
sounds
> different from Paris but not awful anymore, just different. Paris still
has
> more of an analog/tape sound plus the added benefit of sounding more
aggressive
> when you push the gain stages.
>
> So now the big question! Do I prefer the sound of Paris over other DAWS
because
> its actually makes better sounding rec
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