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| Re: Wow, way to go France! [message #84071 is a reply to message #84065] |
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>> This is nothing more than tipical US spin machine out to sway puplic
>> opinion
>> about those leaders that don't drink the US Kool-Aid.. They (Venezuelans)
>> don't need our aid. They have their own precious commodity.
>>
>> Wake up people, are we to believe every word coming from our Goverment??
>>
>> Thanks God for Citgo..
>>
>> "James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>This was a email I received.
>>>
>>>Diane Sawyer on ABC news interviewed the Venezuelan leader Chavez just
>>>last
>>>week -- March 2007 He is so dangerous, and you can tell he is thrilled to
>>>be selling oil toAmerica and having a foot on the throat of this country.
>>>He is something else. If you did not hear the interview, the following
>>>was
>>>discussed and it is true. They have all this money coming in and the
>>>majority
>>>of his own people are living in poverty and he is so rich. He is best of
>>>friends with Castro and Russian leaders. He told Diane Sawyer that he was
>>>friends with all the world leaders, but President Bush is as dumb as a
>>>'donkey'.
>>>
>>>CITGO CHANGING NAME...this is serious Americans...make sure you read ...
>>>NEWS FLASH: Chavez is NOW getting a Russian Weapons Factory built by
>>>Putin.
>>>The RUSSIANS are building an AK-47 Kalashnikov Assault Rifle factory in
>> Venezuela,
>>>to give armament support to Communist Rebel groups throughout the
>>>Americas.
>>>
>>>Chavez NOW has IRANIANS operating his oil refineries in Venezuela for
>>>him.
>>>It is likely only a matter of time, if not already, before Chavez has
>>>Iranian
>>>built LONG RANGE missiles, with a variety of warhead types aimed at:
>>>Guess
>>>Who?
>>>
>>>CITGO is NOW in the process of Changing Its Name to PETRO EXPRESS due to
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| Re: OT: Wow, way to go France! [message #84074 is a reply to message #84072] |
Mon, 07 May 2007 08:28 |
Neil
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couldn't
>>>something
>>>like this sort of change the world??
>>>
>>>I would love to show this video so you guys can see it but I am not sure
>>>if I can post a 3mb video here. Is there a way?? If anyone is
>>>interested,
>>>I could email it to you.
>>>
>>>Lou
>>
>America's appetite for oil is our own problem and we can't blame it on
other countries. We don't own their oil.
The "foot on the throat" is really "feet on the throat" and the feet
belong to OPEC and other oil producers aided by an oil industry that is
more and more consolidated, monolithic and multi-national. But the
responsibility for putting our throat under those feet is largely our own.
In order to get these footprints off of our throat it's not enough to
complain about the governments of other countries, whether they deserve
criticism or not. We need to face up to our own responsibilities and do
something about:
A) Our own oil consumption.
This is key. However you do it, consider using less petroleum. Drive a
more efficient car. Drive less. Go biodiesel (from efficient sources).
Go electric. Ride a bike. Take a bus/train. Walk.
This will help make us less dependent on foreign oil, less manipulable
by terrorist factions, less susceptible to market manipulations and
better able to face the future when oil is harder to come by (oil is not
an infinite resource, google "peak oil"). Reducing our consumption will
also help relieve our shortage of refining capability, which, for a
variety of reasons, we are bumping into pretty hard right now.
Also significant, using less oil will help improve local air quality and
pull back on greenhouse gas emissions.
Win, win.
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| Re: OT: Wow, way to go France! [message #84076 is a reply to message #84074] |
Mon, 07 May 2007 08:45 |
Jamie K
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ANGING NAME...this is serious Americans...make sure you read
...
>>>>NEWS FLASH: Chavez is NOW getting a Russian Weapons Factory built by
>>>>Putin.
>>>>The RUSSIANS are building an AK-47 Kalashnikov Assault Rifle factory
in
>>> Venezuela,
>>>>to give armament support to Communist Rebel groups throughout the
>>>>Americas.
>>>>
>>>>Chavez NOW has IRANIANS operating his oil refineries in Venezuela for
>>>>him.
>>>>It is likely only a matter of time, if not already, before Chavez has
>>>>Iranian
>>>>built LONG RANGE missiles, with a variety of warhead types aimed at:
>>>>Guess
>>>>Who?
>>>>
>>>>CITGO is NOW in the process of Changing Its Name to PETRO EXPRESS due
to
>>>>the loss of gasoline sales in the USA due to the recent publicity of
>>>>ownership
>>>>by Chavez of Venezuela.
>>>>
>>>>Every dollar you spend with CITGO or PETRO EXPRESS gasoline will be used
>>>>against you, your basic human rights, and your freedoms. He will start
>>>>wars
>>>>here in the Americas that will probably be the death of millions of free
>>>>people.
>>>>
>>>>THIS IS VERY IMPORTANT because Chavez is starting to feel the loss of
>>>>revenue
>>>>from his holdings. HE OWNS CITGO. This is a very important move that
>>>>everyone
>>>>should be aware of.
>>>>
>>>>ANNOUNCED JUST RECENTLY, CITGO, BEING AWARE THAT SALES ARE DOWN DUE TO
>>>>U.S.
>>>>CUSTOMERS NOT WANTING TO BUY FROM "CITGO-CHAVEZ", HAVE STARTED TO CHANGE
>>>>THE NAME OF SOME OF THEIR STORES TO: "PETRO EXPRESS"
>>>>DO NOT BUY FROM "PETRO EXPRESS" EITHER!!! "PETRO EXPRESS" IS ALSO 100%
>>>>OWNED
>>&g
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| Re: OT: Wow, way to go France! [message #84120 is a reply to message #84076] |
Mon, 07 May 2007 18:28 |
Rich Lamanna
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>>>If you can read this, thank a teacher - if you can read this in ENGLISH,thank
a veteran.<<
Our brilliant politicians had no will for war, it took the Japanese attacking
us to get us involved. They wanted to just stand by and watch the world be
taken over. WE need to thank the veterans for having the will to fight and
win WWII. left to the pacifists we'd all be speaking German, or maybe Russian
As far as the veterans that fought England, they had the will to fight and
be free from tyranny and unfair taxation. At least Americans were willing
to fight for and earn our freedoms, unlike others that are never willing
to fight for freedom.
We owe our vets a debt of gratitude.
Thank you!
Jamie K <Meta@Dimensional.com> wrote:
>wireline wrote:
>> Misguided is not the term I would have thought of...but whatever.
>>
>> Funny how no one seems to remember the great failed experiment called
socialism
>> (USSR, anyone?) Or better yet, the great failed experiment called facism
>> (Nazi Germany, anyone?)
>
>Who is this "no one" to whom you refer?
>
>Don't you think it's a bit condescending to assume people here fit your
>stereotypes of ignorance. Is that why you flaunt your examples as
>simplistic sweeping generalizations, did you think people here are slow?
>
>Other than me, that is? ;^)
>
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>> If you can read this, thank a teacher - if you can read this in ENGLISH,
>> thank a veteran.
>
>Don't forget that our first war was fought against...wait for it...the
>English! :^)
>
>Have a great weekend!
>
>Cheers,
> -Jamie
> www.JamieKrutz.com
>
>
>
>> "DJ" <www.aarrrrggghhh!!!.com> wrote:
>>>> Before you become enamoured with Somoza,
>>> sorry.......I meant Chavez.......
>>>
>>>
>>> and another thought........just because Chavez echoes your personal opinions
>>
>>> about Bush, does not make him a "liberator". People like Chavez will
say
>>
>>> whatever they think you want to hear as long as it suits their
>>> agenda.....sorta like most American politicians.
>>>
>>> Deej
>>><
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| Re: OT: Wow, way to go France! [message #84139 is a reply to message #84122] |
Mon, 07 May 2007 21:50 |
Jamie K
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ank">465cd378@linux, "Bill L"
<bill@billlorentzen.com> wrote:
> I posted this at the Steiny forum, but no replies yet. Hoping one of you
> guys who has been on C4 for a while can suss out what I may have done
> wrong. I just got C4 and it is throwing me for a loop this time. I could
> not find a thing in the manual on these.
>
> Somehow overnight I have 2 new problems.
>
> 1) I seem to have lost all my C4 synth settings. Before, they would all
> be there when I wanted to change a sound in Halion or any of the Cubase
> synths. Now it just shows the Browser and Filter with a tree of content
> folders, but I cannot figure out how to access the content.
>
> 2) Now when I open a synth with multiple outputs, it only gives me 1
> output in the mixer even though the synth is set for multiple outs. I am
> not using instrument tracks. These are synths I added to the VSTi synth
> rack. When I first installed it, it did not have this problem. I have
> tried adding new synths to projects that have multiple outs on synths
> already, and it only gives the first output.
>
> I have already tried reinstalling, hoping it would go back to the way it
> was behaving originally, but the problems persisted.Another "doh" moment in professional audio...
Thanks very much... One mystery though: how come I haven't run into
this before when doing drag-and-drop copies of audio files out of
protools on a Mac? I've successfully taken several sessions worth of
files from another studio back home this way -- drag 'em from the Mac
onto an external hard drive, lug it home, plug into the PC and go...
What did my friend do "wrong" (different) this time?
-- appreciate the enlightenment -- some of us missed a semester in
computer kindergarten and are still filling in the blanks...
-- chas.
On Tue, 29 May 2007 19:07:20 -0600, "Dave(EK Sound)"
<audioguy_editout_@shaw.ca> wrote:
>Rename the files on your pc with the .sd2 extension. Mac
>doesn't use extensions, that's why windowz doesn't know what
>it is....
>
>David.
>
>Chas. Duncan wrote:
>> Wonder if one of you more Mac-aware people could diagnose this
>> trouble: friend of mine is trying to give me some sd2 files he's made
>> on his little ProTools LE rig at home... He drags 'em into a folder,
>> burns them onto a data cd, and when I open them here (on the PC)
>> Windows only sees them as generic "files" -- that is, not audio
>> files, or sd2's in particular -- just "files". Name and size looks
>> right, but -- they won't open in Wavelab, which is the Swiss Army
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| Re: OT: Wow, way to go France! [message #84140 is a reply to message #84120] |
Mon, 07 May 2007 21:54 |
Jamie K
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>> knife of audio apps... I figure he's overlooking some kind of detail
>> on his end -- he's not much of a computer geek, Mac or otherwise.
>>
>> Haven't seen this particular glitch yet-- anybody?
>>
>> TIA -- chas."chuck duffy" <c@c.com> wrote:
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>and is an incredibly dated sampler compatible with your goals of being a
jazz
>musician :-)
Hehe. It's compatible with my goal to get a new toy without spending too
much and without too big a learning curve.
And I always loved my old EPS. I'm sure there is better stuff out there than
the ASR now, but I'm also sure it's not in my budget. ;o)
I picked it up for $480 off ebay, so...
But if you must know, I loaded a little jazz demo off the one of the disks
this morning while having a play and I think that yes, it might be. ;o)
Cheers,
Kim.Bump?
"Cujo" <chris@applemanstudio.com> wrote:
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>
>Yes, can anyone tell me if it is working in XP?
>I have a track that is crying for that sound, but I don't want to chance
>if screwing up my rig.
>DO latency #'s change with 4.6? if so, anyone know the new #;s in paris?
>THANKS.
>
>
>
>"Rod Lincoln" <rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com> wrote:
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>>Tom. I'd be real interested in what you find out. I'm tempted to buy it
>before
>>the 31st (tomorrow) if it works, but if there's something that breaks it
>>in Paris, the...NOT.
>>Anyone else been able to use this in Paris on a PC???
>>Rod
>>"Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote:
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>>>
>>>I bought it and it isn't working for me. It outputs what sounds like
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>>>just the
>>>latent signal mixed in with the dry. No eq is possible either.?. I =
>>>wrapped
>>>it with FxPansion 3.3 but it won't play nice yet on my PC. I emailed
>>>UA and hope to find a cure.
>>>
>>>Tom
>>> "Gantt Kushner" <ganttmann@comcast.net> wrote in message =
>>>news:460ac80b$1@linux...
>>>
>>> I just started the 14 day demo. It's kind of a strange EQ. I'm =
>>>curious about
>>> others' thoughts on it. I just bought the Multiband Limiter w/ my =
>>>discount.
>>> It seems like it'll be a powerful tool once I figure out how to work
>>=
>>>it!
>>>
>>> Gantt
>>>
>>>
>>>I choose Polesoft Lockspam to fight spam, and you?
>>>http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html
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I've heard the KSP-8 and it is very nice and natural. Brian T sold his =
M 6000 as I recall
after substituting it's reverbs with the KSP-8. I think that was the =
deal anyway.
Kurly Rumor is serious bang/buck if reverb is the only thing you're =
looking for.
Tom
"Chris Lang" <yo@yo.yo> wrote in message news:465cdf13$1@linux...
Another vote for the M3000-
If you like the Paris EDS plate reverb at all, you will
LOVE the M3000- it is so unobtrusive but real.
However, my friend Darren Rahn makes a living as a producer,
among other things, and really loves the KSP8...
Chris
"George Axon" <georgeaxon@rogers.com> wrote:
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>I also have the M3000 - it's very nice!
>
>"DJ" <www.aarrrrggghhh!!!.com> wrote:
>>The Kurzweil Rumor might be all you need.....if Kurzweil is your =
choice.
>>
>>Deej
>>
>>"dale" <dalebradleycello@yahoo.com> wrote in message=20
>>news:465c8db2$1@linux...
>>>
>>> I do mostly acoustic music, and I've not been blown away with the
>>> reverb I've gotten from the Lexicon PCM70 (I've heard people
>>> love them on drums & certain things) and am thinking to
>>> sell/trade it towards something else. I've heard great things
>>> about TC M3000 and Kurzweil KSP8. I'm wondering if the KSP8 has
>>> enough advantages over the M3000 to justify the higher price tag,
>>> when what I basically need are nice reverbs for acoustic music.
>>> Or is there another killer unit out there that might accomplish
>>> this (for, say under a grand)?
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Dale=20
>>
>>
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| Re: OT: Wow, way to go France! [message #84151 is a reply to message #84072] |
Tue, 08 May 2007 01:44 |
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>The thing that f@#(*&( kills me about it, every time I hear/see/read it
from
>people I love/hate/mildly dislike is that it boils down to the MOST ANTI
>AMERICAN expression possible.
>
>Chuck
>
>So when they start killing and oppressing people as communist always do, will
that go a long with your Christen beliefs? I don't see how the two fit.
Just because Chavez is a communist and wants a communist government doesn't
mean that the people want it. I think they are proving that by their protesting.
Oh yeah, I forgot, that's just the dictator Bush's CIA at work, not the
real people of Venezuela.
"LaMont" <jjppro@ameritech.net> wrote:
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>I thought you were a Christian?
>
>I am.. God's order of Government is a Theocracy and of a Democracy. One
ruler
>system.. Not baiting..
>
>USA should be dictating policy over another country. If they want to be
comunist
>let them. That's my belife. That does not manke me anyless american..
>
>
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>"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
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>>What's wrong wit Communism? I thought you were a Christian? Well anyways,
>>try freedom!!! When you rule your people with military force and take
their
>>freedoms away It's not a good thing. They will kill anybody that does
not
>>want to go along. He will stay rich while the people live in poverty,
that's
>>the Communist way. He is just another communist dictator. He want's to
>>arm Communist rebels all over south america. That's not good for anybody,
>>especially America. That will cause conflicts that a lot of people will
>>die in, possibly americans. The USA will not just stand by
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| Re: OT: Wow, way to go France! [message #84152 is a reply to message #84120] |
Tue, 08 May 2007 01:49 |
Sarah
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and watch south
>>america fall to communism.
>>
>>LaMont, I guess you are showing your true anti American colors. Or are
>you
>>just bating? Please clarify.
>>
>>
>>"LaMont" <jjdpro@ameritech.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>same with tme. I had a 88 Izuzu I mark and filled it with some citgo gas/water
>>>and it killed my catalytic converter..
>>>
>>>It took a long time for me to buy Citgo gas . But, just because a country
>>>is communist, does that mean they are evil??
>>>Come on man. Take off the USA blinders..
>>>
>>>"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>By the way, In 1995 I purchased a brand new Firebird. About a month
after
>>>>getting the car I got gas at a Citgo station. with in minutes of pulling
>>>>out, the engine ceased up. Towed it in to a dealer and found out I had
>>>bad
>>>>gas. I had the state of Michigan come out and test the gas. 71% was
>water,
>>>>about 8% was solid garbage, and the rest was gas. It took out all of
>the
>>>>fuel injectors and the fuel pump. It did about $1700.00 in damage.
>>>>
>>>> Citgo refused to take any responsibility for their product, and refused
>>>>to pay for the damage. They immediately told me that they were not responsible
>>>>for their product after it left their refinery. Apparently that was
their
>>>>standard response for anybody that called them about bad gas. It took
>>about
>>>>6 months to get it straitened out. The state of Michigan gave them a
>choice,
>>>>pay for the damages or pay a $25,000.00 fine. The arab gas station owner
>>>>had to pay for the damage.
>>>>
>>>>My neighbor later told me that when that gas station would start running
>>>>out of gas he would see them put the garden hose down in to their tanks.
>>>> So I guess the owner deserved what he got. There were also many reports
>>>>on the news of people getting bad gas from Citgo stations all over town.
>>>>
>>>>Needless to say, I never buy gas at Citgo. What a PITA! If you want
>to
>>>>buy your gas from them that's up to you.
>>>>
>>>>When possible I will avoid buying Communist made products. And yes I
>am
>>>>aware of where some of my favorite products are made. I don't like it.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>"LaMont" <jjdpro@ameritech.net> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>Hugo Chavez is a hero. A man willing to sand up for his counry and not
>>>let
>>>>>a another country (USA) tell him how to run thier commodity.
>>>>>
>>>>>This is nothing more than tipical US spin machine out to sway puplic
>opinion
>>>>>about those leaders that don't drink the US Kool-Aid.. They (Venezuelans)
>>>>>don't need our aid. They have their own precious commodity.
>>>>>
>>>>>Wake up people, are we to believe every word coming from our Goverment??
>>>>>
>>>>>Thanks God for Citgo..
>>>>>
>>>>>"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>This was a email I received.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Diane Sawyer on ABC news interviewed the Venezuelan leader Chavez just
>>>>last
>>>>>>week -- March 2007 He is so dangerous, and you can tell he is thrilled
>>>>to
>>>>>>be selling oil toAmerica and having a foot on the throat of this country.
>>>>>>He is something else. If you did not hear the interview, the following
>>>>was
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| Re: OT: Wow, way to go France! [message #84155 is a reply to message #84152] |
Tue, 08 May 2007 06:40 |
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t by
>>Putin.
>>>>>>The RUSSIANS are building an AK-47 Kalashnikov Assault Rifle factory
>>in
>>>>>Venezuela,
>>>>>>to give armament support to Communist Rebel groups throughout the Americas.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Chavez NOW has IRANIANS operating his oil refineries in Venezuela for
>>>him.
>>>>>>It is likely only a matter of time, if not already, before Chavez has
>>>Iranian
>>>>>>built LONG RANGE missiles, with a variety of warhead types aimed at:
>>Guess
>>>>>>Who?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>CITGO is NOW in the process of Changing Its Name to PETRO EXPRESS due
>>>to
>>>>>>the loss of gasoline sales in the USA due to the recent publicity of
>>ownership
>>>>>>by Chavez of Venezuela.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Every dollar you spend with CITGO or PETRO EXPRESS gasoline will be
>used
>>>>>>against you, your basic human rights, and your freedoms. He will start
>>>>wars
>>>>>>here in the Americas that will probably be the death of millions of
>free
>>>>>>people.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>THIS IS VERY IMPORTANT because Chavez is starting to feel the loss
of
>>>revenue
>>>>>>from his holdings. HE OWNS CITGO. This is a very important move that
>>everyone
>>>>>>should be aware of.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>ANNOUNCED JUST RECENTLY, CITGO, BEING AWARE THAT SALES ARE DOWN DUE
>TO
>>>>U.S.
>>>>>>CUSTOMERS NOT WANTING TO BUY FROM "CITGO-CHAVEZ", HAVE STARTED TO CHANGE
>>>>>>THE NAME OF SOME OF THEIR STORES TO: "PETRO EXPRESS"
>>>>>>DO NOT BUY FROM "PETRO EXPRESS" EITHER!!! "PETRO EXPRESS" IS ALSO 100%
>>>>OWNED
>>>>>>BY "CHAVEZ."
>>>>>>
>>>>>>KEEP THIS MEMO GOING SO THAT EVERYONE KNOWS WHAT IS HAPPENING.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>BOYCOTT "CITGO" AND "PETRO EXPRESS".............MAKE SURE THIS IS PASSED
>>>>>>ON TO EVERYONE in YOUR E-MAIL LIST IN THE UNITED STATES AND OUTSIDE
>OF
>>>>AMERICA.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>"DC" <dc@spammersinhell.com> wrote:
>If we have none, and you can say anything you wish, then does being
>an american mean anything?
>
>DC
One thing it should always mean is that you can say what you think. Even
if it is extremely critical of US policies. This is the most basic principle
that this country was founded on.
Try to remember what it is that you are so bent on defending. Basic American
ideals. Like freedom of speech!
Gene"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
Saying communism is Ok is anti American!
No.
Trying to strip away our freedom of speech is what’s anti American.
GeneYou got it..
Question; Do you think every american wants capitalism? or would they prefer
free health care and social security???
"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>So when they start killing and oppressing people as communist always do,
will
>that go a long with your Christen beliefs? I don't see how the two fit.
>
>Just because Chavez is a communist and wants a communist government doesn't
>mean that the people want it. I think they are proving that by their protesting.
> Oh yeah, I forgot, that's just the dictator Bush's CIA at work, not the
>real people of Venezuela.
>
>
>"LaMont" <jjppro@ameritech.net> wrote:
>>
>>I thought you were a Christian?
>>
>>I am.. God's order of Government is a Theocracy and of a Democracy. One
>ruler
>>system.. Not baiting..
>>
>>USA should be dictating policy over another country. If they want to be
>comunist
>>let them. That's my belife. That does not manke me anyless american..
>>
>>
>>
>>"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>What's wrong wit Communism? I thought you were a Christian? Well anyways,
>>>try freedom!!! When you rule your people with military force and take
>their
>>>freedoms away It's not a good thing. They will kill anybody that does
>not
>>>want to go along. He will stay rich while the people live in poverty,
>that's
>>>the Communist way. He is just another communist dictator. He want's
to
>>>arm Communist rebels all over south america. That's not good for anybody,
>>>especially America. That will cause conflicts that a lot of people will
>>>die in, possibly americans. Th
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| Re: OT: Wow, way to go France! [message #84158 is a reply to message #84155] |
Tue, 08 May 2007 07:38 |
gene lennon
Messages: 565
Registered: July 2006
|
Senior Member |
|
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mail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>This was a email I received.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Diane Sawyer on ABC news interviewed the Venezuelan leader Chavez
just
>>>>>last
>>>>>>>week -- March 2007 He is so dangerous, and you can tell he is thrilled
>>>>>to
>>>>>>>be selling oil toAmerica and having a foot on the throat of this country.
>>>>>>>He is something else. If you did not hear the interview, the following
>>>>>was
>>>>>>>discussed and it is true. They have all this money coming in and the
>>>majority
>>>>>>>of his own people are living in poverty and he is so rich. He is best
>>>>of
>>>>>>>friends with Castro and Russian leaders. He told Diane Sawyer that
>he
>>>>was
>>>>>>>friends with all the world leaders, but President Bush is as dumb
as
>>>a
>>>>>'donkey'.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>CITGO CHANGING NAME...this is serious Americans...make sure you read
>>>..
>>>>>>>NEWS FLASH: Chavez is NOW getting a Russian Weapons Factory built
by
>>>Putin.
>>>>>>>The RUSSIANS are building an AK-47 Kalashnikov Assault Rifle factory
>>>in
>>>>>>Venezuela,
>>>>>>>to give armament support to Communist Rebel groups throughout the
Americas.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Chavez NOW has IRANIANS operating his oil refineries in Venezuela
for
>>>>him.
>>>>>>>It is likely only a matter of time, if not already, before Chavez
has
>>>>Iranian
>>>>>>>built LONG RANGE missiles, with a variety of warhead types aimed at:
>>>Guess
>>>>>>>Who?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>CITGO is NOW in the process of Changing Its Name to PETRO EXPRESS
due
>>>>to
>>>>>>>the loss of gasoline sales in the USA due to the recent publicity
of
>>>ownership
>>>>>>>by Chavez of Venezuela.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Every dollar you spend with CITGO or PETRO EXPRESS gasoline will be
>>used
>>>>>>>against you, your basic human rights, and your freedoms. He will start
>>>>>wars
>>>>>>>here in the Americas that will probably be the death of millions of
>>free
>>>>>>>people.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>THIS IS VERY IMPORTANT because Chavez is starting to feel the loss
>of
>>>>revenue
>>>>>>>from his holdings. HE OWNS CITGO. This is a very important move that
>>>everyone
>>>>>>>should be aware of.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>ANNOUNCED JUST RECENTLY, CITGO, BEING AWARE THAT SALES ARE DOWN DUE
>>TO
>>>>>U.S.
>>>>>>>CUSTOMERS NOT WANTING TO BUY FROM "CITGO-CHAVEZ", HAVE STARTED TO
CHANGE
>>>>>>>THE NAME OF SOME OF THEIR STORES TO: "PETRO EXPRESS"
>>>>>>>DO NOT BUY FROM "PETRO EXPRESS" EITHER!!! "PETRO EXPRESS" IS ALSO
100%
>>>>>OWNED
>>>>>>>BY "CHAVEZ."
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>KEEP THIS MEMO GOING SO THAT EVERYONE KNOWS WHAT IS HAPPENING.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>BOYCOTT "CITGO" AND "PETRO EXPRESS".............MAKE SURE THIS IS
PASSED
>>>>>>>ON TO EVERYONE in YOUR E-MAIL LIST IN THE UNITED STATES AND OUTSIDE
>>OF
>>>>>AMERICA.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>The Black Panthers a peaceful group??? They even killed some of there own!
My dad had friends that were cops back then that told my dad they had cells
all around St. Louis and Detroit. They were organizing and planning to take
over the cities by force when they raided them, thanks to the help of black
cops!
May be there concept of doing something about oppression was a good one at
the time, but they were a violent group that was calling for armed resistance
from the get go. Had they been peaceful and not a militant group that killed
people, maybe they could have done some good. Their hate did them in!
"LaMont" <jjdpro@ameritech.net> wrote:
>
>They were a peaceful organization.. Stop drinking the USA Kool-Aid and think
>for your self.
>
>They(Black Panthers)took up arms against te opressive US government to protect
>the Blacks who being oppressed and lynched..
>
>"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>Yeah the black Panthers were a peaceful group. Two wrongs don't make a
>right.
>> Come on LaMont!
>>
>>"LaMont" <jjdpro@ameritect.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>DJ, I'm not that narrow minded. Just becasue he (Chavez) rags on Bush
doe
>>>snot make me admire him. Like Castro, and many rulers who won;t follow
>the
>>>US foriegn policy and put their Country first is a leader I admire..
>>>
>>>Back in the 60s the US govermen called the Black Panthers a terrosit organization,
>>>it was not.. Then seeked to distroy them just beacause they wanted a better
>>>america for all especialy African Americans..
>>>
>>>It hard for most white americ
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| Re: OT: Wow, way to go France! [message #84160 is a reply to message #84158] |
Tue, 08 May 2007 07:56 |
dc[3]
Messages: 895
Registered: September 2005
|
Senior Member |
|
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nezuela while you still
can
>>>
>>>>> travel without a *state tender* (if this is even still possible) and
>>spend
>>>
>>>>> about a month travelling around down there.
>>>>>
>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>
>>>>> DJ
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "LaMont" <jjdpro@ameritech.net> wrote in message news:4657da5b$1@linux...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hugo Chavez is a hero. A man willing to sand up for his counry and
>not
>>>
>>>>>> let
>>>>>> a another country (USA) tell him how to run thier commodity.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> This is nothing more than tipical US spin machine out to sway puplic
>>>
>>>>>> opinion
>>>>>> about those leaders that don't drink the US Kool-Aid.. They (Venezuelans)
>>>>>> don't need our aid. They have their own precious commodity.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Wake up people, are we to believe every word coming from our Goverment??
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks God for Citgo..
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>This was a email I received.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Diane Sawyer on ABC news interviewed the Venezuelan leader Chavez
just
>>>
>>>>>>>last
>>>>>>>week -- March 2007 He is so dangerous, and you can tell he is thrilled
>>>to
>>>>>>>be selling oil toAmerica and having a foot on the throat of this country.
>>>>>>>He is something else. If you did not hear the interview, the following
>>>
>>>>>>>was
>>>>>>>discussed and it is true. They have all this money coming in and the
>>>
>>>>>>>majority
>>>>>>>of his own people are living in poverty and he is so rich. He is best
>>>of
>>>>>>>friends with Castro and Russian leaders. He told Diane Sawyer that
>he
>>>was
>>>>>>>friends with all the world leaders, but President Bush is as dumb
as
>>>a
>>>>>>>'donkey'.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>CITGO CHANGING NAME...this is serious Americans...make sure you read
>>>..
>>>>>>>NEWS FLASH: Chavez is NOW getting a Russian Weapons Factory built
by
>>>
>>>>>>>Putin.
>>>>>>>The RUSSIANS are building an AK-47 Kalashnikov Assault Rifle factory
>>>in
>>>>>> Venezuela,
>>>>>>>to give armament support to Communist Rebel groups throughout the
>>>>>>>Americas.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Chavez NOW has IRANIANS operating his oil refineries in Venezuela
for
>>>
>>>>>>>him.
>>>>>>>It is likely only a matter of time, if not already, before Chavez
has
>>>
>>>>>>>Iranian
>>>>>>>built LONG RANGE missiles, with a variety of warhead types aimed at:
>>>
>>>>>>>Guess
>>>>>>>Who?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>CITGO is NOW in the process of Changing Its Name to PETRO EXPRESS
due
>>>to
>>>>>>>the loss of gasoline sales in the USA due to the recent publicity
of
>>>
>>>>>>>ownership
>>>>>>>by Chavez of Venezuela.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Every dollar you spend with CITGO or PETRO EXPRESS gasoline will be
>>used
>>>>>>>against you, your basic human rights, and your freedoms. He will start
>>>
>>>>>>>wars
>>>>>>>here in the Americas that will probably be the death of millions of
>>free
>>>>>>>people.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>THIS IS VERY IMPORTANT because Chavez is starting to feel the loss
>of
>>>
>>>>>>>revenue
>>>>>>>from his holdings. HE OWNS CITGO. This is a very important move that
>>>
>>>>>>>everyone
>>>>>>>should be aware of.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>ANNOUNCED JUST RECENTLY, CITGO, BEING AWARE THAT SALES ARE DOWN DUE
>>TO
>>>
>>>>>>>U.S.
>>>>>>>CUSTOMERS NOT WANTING TO BUY FROM "CITGO-CHAVEZ", HAVE STARTED TO
CHANGE
>>>>>>>THE NAME OF SOME OF THEIR STORES TO: "PETRO EXPRESS"
>>>>>>>DO NOT BUY FROM "PETRO EXPRESS" EITHER!!! "PETRO EXPRESS" IS ALSO
100%
>>>
>>>>>>>OWNED
>>>>>>>BY "CHAVEZ."
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>KEEP THIS MEMO GOING SO THAT EVERYONE KNOWS WHAT IS HAPPENING.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>BOYCOTT "CITGO" AND "PETRO EXPRESS".............MAKE SURE THIS IS
PASSED
>>>>>>>ON TO EVERYONE in YOUR E-MAIL LIST IN THE UNITED STATES AND OUTSIDE
>>OF
>>>
>>>>>>>AMERICA.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>http://www.syntaur.com/
Try these guys.
AA
"Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:465cea0b$1@linux...
>
> "chuck duffy" <c@c.com> wrote:
>>
>>and is an incredibly dated sampler compatible with your goals of being a
> jazz
>>musician :-)
>
> Hehe. It's compatible with my goal to get a new toy without spending too
> much and without too big a learning curve.
>
> And I always loved my old EPS. I'm sure there is better stuff out there
> than
> the ASR now, but I'm also sure it's not in my budget. ;o)
>
> I picked it up for
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| Re: OT: Wow, way to go France! [message #84163 is a reply to message #84160] |
Tue, 08 May 2007 08:10 |
gene lennon
Messages: 565
Registered: July 2006
|
Senior Member |
|
|
ers)took up arms against te opressive US government to
protect
>>the Blacks who being oppressed and lynched..
>>
>>"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>Yeah the black Panthers were a peaceful group. Two wrongs don't make
a
>>right.
>>> Come on LaMont!
>>>
>>>"LaMont" <jjdpro@ameritect.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>DJ, I'm not that narrow minded. Just becasue he (Chavez) rags on Bush
>doe
>>>>snot make me admire him. Like Castro, and many rulers who won;t follow
>>the
>>>>US foriegn policy and put their Country first is a leader I admire..
>>>>
>>>>Back in the 60s the US govermen called the Black Panthers a terrosit
organization,
>>>>it was not.. Then seeked to distroy them just beacause they wanted a
better
>>>>america for all especialy African Americans..
>>>>
>>>>It hard for most white americans to belive that their country can do
no
>>>wrong.
>>>>It's just that most of us who are non white belive in the US goverment
>>
>>>no
>>>>mateer whos is office..
>>>>
>>>>"DJ" <www.aarrrrggghhh!!!.com> wrote:
>>>>>>Before you become enamoured with Somoza,
>>>>>
>>>>>sorry.......I meant Chavez.......
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>and another thought........just because Chavez echoes your personal
opinions
>>>>
>>>>>about Bush, does not make him a "liberator". People like Chavez will
>say
>>>>
>>>>>whatever they think you want to hear as long as it suits their
>>>>>agenda.....sorta like most American politicians.
>>>>>
>>>>>Deej
>>>>>
>>>>>"DJ" <www.aarrrrggghhh!!!.com> wrote in message news:46585f86@linux...
>>>>>> LaMont, my friend. I think you are misguided here. I respect your
>>>>>> opinions, but I wonder if you have ever been up close and personal
>with
>>>>a
>>>>>> totalitarian state......socialist or otherwise. I have seen it (Nicaragua
>>>>
>>>>>> during and after Somoza). Before you become enamoured with Somoza,
>I
>>>
>>>>>> suggest you take some time off and go to Venezuela while you still
>can
>>>>
>>>>>> travel without a *state tender* (if this is even still possible) and
>>>spend
>>>>
>>>>>> about a month travelling around down there.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> DJ
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "LaMont" <jjdpro@ameritech.net> wrote in message news:4657da5b$1@linux...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hugo Chavez is a hero. A man willing to sand up for his counry and
>>not
>>>>
>>>>>>> let
>>>>>>> a another country (USA) tell him how to run thier commodity.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> This is nothing more than tipical US spin machine out to sway puplic
>>>>
>>>>>>> opinion
>>>>>>> about those leaders that don't drink the US Kool-Aid.. They (Venezuelans)
>>>>>>> don't need our aid. They have their own precious commodity.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Wake up people, are we to believe every word coming from our Goverment??
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks God for Citgo..
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>This was a email I received.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Diane Sawyer on ABC news interviewed the Venezuelan leader Chavez
>just
>>>>
>>>>>>>>last
>>>>>>>>week -- March 2007 He is so dangerous, and you can tell he is thrilled
>>>>to
>>>>>>>>be selling oil toAmerica and having a foot on the throat of this
country.
>>>>>>>>He is something else. If you did not hear the interview, the following
>>>>
>>>>>>>>was
>>>>>>>>discussed and it is true. They have all this money coming in and
the
>>>>
>>>>>>>>majority
>>>>>>>>of his own people are living in poverty and he is so rich. He is
best
>>>>of
>>>>>>>>friends with Castro and Russian leaders. He told Diane Sawyer that
>>he
>>>>was
>>>>>>>>friends with all the world leaders, but President Bush is as dumb
>as
>>>>a
>>>>>>>>'donkey'.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>CITGO CHANGING NAME...this is serious Americans...make sure you read
>>>>..
>>>>>>>>NEWS FLASH: Chavez is NOW getting a Russian Weapons Factory built
>by
>>>>
>>>>>>>>Putin.
>>>>>>>>The RUSSIANS are building an AK-47 Kalashnikov Assault Rifle factory
>>>>in
>>>>>>> Venezuela,
>>>>>>>>to give armament support to Communist Rebel groups throughout the
>
>>>>>>>>Americas.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Chavez NOW has IRANIANS operating his oil refineries in Venezuela
>for
>>>>
>>>>>>>>him.
>>>>>>>>It is likely only a matter of time, if not already, before Chavez
>has
>>>>
>>>>>>>>Iranian
>>>>>>>>built LONG RANGE missiles, with a variety of warhead types aimed
at:
>>>>
>>>>>>>>Guess
>>>>>>>>Who?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>CITGO is NOW in the process of Changing Its Name to PETRO EXPRESS
>due
>>>>to
>>>>>>>>the loss of gasoline sales in the USA due to the recent publicity
>of
>>>>
>>>>>>>>ownership
>>>>>>>>by Chavez of Venezuela.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Every dollar you spend with CITGO or PETRO EXPRESS gasoline will
be
>>>used
>>>>>>>>against you, your basic human rights, and your freedoms. He will
start
>>>>
>>>>>>>>wars
>>>>>>>>here in the Americas that will probably be the death of millions
of
>>>free
>>>>>>>>people.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>THIS IS VERY IMPORTANT because Chavez is starting to feel the loss
>>of
>>>>
>>>>>>>>revenue
>>>>>>>>from his holdings. HE OWNS CITGO. This i
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| Re: OT: Wow, way to go France! [message #84165 is a reply to message #84155] |
Tue, 08 May 2007 08:51 |
Jamie K
Messages: 1115
Registered: July 2006
|
Senior Member |
|
|
TO: "PETRO EXPRESS"
>>>>>>>>DO NOT BUY FROM "PETRO EXPRESS" EITHER!!! "PETRO EXPRESS" IS ALSO
>100%
>>>>
>>>>>>>>OWNED
>>>>>>>>BY "CHAVEZ."
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>KEEP THIS MEMO GOING SO THAT EVERYONE KNOWS WHAT IS HAPPENING.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>BOYCOTT "CITGO" AND "PETRO EXPRESS".............MAKE SURE THIS IS
>PASSED
>>>>>>>>ON TO EVERYONE in YOUR E-MAIL LIST IN THE UNITED STATES AND OUTSIDE
>>>OF
>>>>
>>>>>>>>AMERICA.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>No their hate did not do them in.. The CIA did them in.
"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>The Black Panthers a peaceful group??? They even killed some of there own!
> My dad had friends that were cops back then that told my dad they had cells
>all around St. Louis and Detroit. They were organizing and planning to
take
>over the cities by force when they raided them, thanks to the help of black
>cops!
>
>May be there concept of doing something about oppression was a good one
at
>the time, but they were a violent group that was calling for armed resistance
>from the get go. Had they been peaceful and not a militant group that killed
>people, maybe they could have done some good. Their hate did them in!
>
>"LaMont" <jjdpro@ameritech.net> wrote:
>>
>>They were a peaceful organization.. Stop drinking the USA Kool-Aid and
think
>>for your self.
>>
>>They(Black Panthers)took up arms against te opressive US government to
protect
>>the Blacks who being oppressed and lynched..
>>
>>"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>Yeah the black Panthers were a peaceful group. Two wrongs don't make
a
>>right.
>>> Come on LaMont!
>>>
>>>"LaMont" <jjdpro@ameritect.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>DJ, I'm not that narrow minded. Just becasue he (Chavez) rags on Bush
>doe
>>>>snot make me admire him. Like Castro, and many rulers who won;t follow
>>the
>>>>US foriegn policy and put their Country first is a leader I admire..
>>>>
>>>>Back in the 60s the US govermen called the Black Panthers a terrosit
organization,
>>>>it was not.. Then seeked to distroy them just beacause they wanted a
better
>>>>america for all especialy African Americans..
>>>>
>>>>It hard for most white americans to belive that their country can do
no
>>>wrong.
>>>>It's just that most of us who are non white belive in the US goverment
>>
>>>no
>>>>mateer whos is office..
>>>>
>>>>"DJ" <www.aarrrrggghhh!!!.com> wrote:
>>>>>>Before you become enamoured with Somoza,
>>>>>
>>>>>sorry.......I meant Chavez.......
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>and another thought........just because Chavez echoes your personal
opinions
>>>>
>>>>>about Bush, does not make him a "liberator". People like Chavez will
>say
>>>>
>>>>>whatever they think you want to hear as long as it suits their
>>>>>agenda.....sorta like most American politicians.
>>>>>
>>>>>Deej
>>>>>
>>>>>"DJ" <www.aarrrrggghhh!!!.com> wrote in message news:46585f86@linux...
>>>>>> LaMont, my friend. I think you are misguided here. I respect your
>>>>>> opinions, but I wonder if you have ever been up close and personal
>with
>>>>a
>>>>>> totalitarian state......socialist or otherwise. I have seen it (Nicaragua
>>>>
>>>>>> during and after Somoza). Before you become enamoured with Somoza,
>I
>>>
>>>>>> suggest you take some time off and go to Venezuela while you still
>can
>>>>
>>>>>> travel without a *state tender* (if this is even still possible) and
>>>spend
>>>>
>>>>>> about a month travelling around down there.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> DJ
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "LaMont" <jjdpro@ameritech.net> wrote in message news:4657da5b$1@linux...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hugo Chavez is a hero. A man willing to sand up for his counry and
>>not
>>>>
>>>>>>> let
>>>>>>> a another country (USA) tell him how to run thier commodity.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> This is nothing more than tipical US spin machine out to sway puplic
>>>>
>>>>>>> opinion
>>>>>>> about those leaders that don't drink the US Kool-Aid.. They (Venezuelans)
>>>>>>> don't need our aid. They have their own precious commodity.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Wake up people, are we to believe every word coming from our Goverment??
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks God for Citgo..
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>This was a email I received.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Diane Sawyer on ABC news interviewed the Venezuelan leader Chavez
>just
>>>>
>>>>>>>>last
>>>>>>>>week -- March 2007 He is so dangerous, and you can tell he is thrilled
>>>>to
>>>>>>>>be selling oil toAmerica and having a foot on the throat of this
country.
>>>>>>>>He is something else. If you did not hear the interview, the following
>>>>
>>>>>>>>was
>>>>>>>>discussed and it is true. They have all this money coming in and
the
>>>>
>>>>>>>>majority
>>>>>>>>of his own people are living in poverty and he is so rich. He is
best
>>>>of
>>>>>>>>friends with Castro and Russian leaders. He told Diane Sawyer that
>>he
>>>>was
>>>>>>>>friends with all the world leaders, but President Bush is as dumb
>as
>>>>a
>>>>>>>>'donkey'.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>CITGO CHANGING NAME...this is serious Americans...make sure you read
>>>>..
>>>>>>>>NEWS FLASH: Chavez is NOW getting a Russian Weapons Factory built
>by
>>>>
>>>>>>>>Putin.
>>>>>>>>The RUSSIANS are building an AK-47 Kalashnikov Assault Rifle factory
>>>>in
>>>>>>> Venezuela,
>>>>>&
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| Re: OT: Wow, way to go France! [message #84166 is a reply to message #84163] |
Tue, 08 May 2007 09:06 |
dc[3]
Messages: 895
Registered: September 2005
|
Senior Member |
|
|
gt;>>to give armament support to Communist Rebel groups throughout the
>
>>>>>>>>Americas.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Chavez NOW has IRANIANS operating his oil refineries in Venezuela
>for
>>>>
>>>>>>>>him.
>>>>>>>>It is likely only a matter of time, if not already, before Chavez
>has
>>>>
>>>>>>>>Iranian
>>>>>>>>built LONG RANGE missiles, with a variety of warhead types aimed
at:
>>>>
>>>>>>>>Guess
>>>>>>>>Who?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>CITGO is NOW in the process of Changing Its Name to PETRO EXPRESS
>due
>>>>to
>>>>>>>>the loss of gasoline sales in the USA due to the recent publicity
>of
>>>>
>>>>>>>>ownership
>>>>>>>>by Chavez of Venezuela.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Every dollar you spend with CITGO or PETRO EXPRESS gasoline will
be
>>>used
>>>>>>>>against you, your basic human rights, and your freedoms. He will
start
>>>>
>>>>>>>>wars
>>>>>>>>here in the Americas that will probably be the death of millions
of
>>>free
>>>>>>>>people.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>THIS IS VERY IMPORTANT because Chavez is starting to feel the loss
>>of
>>>>
>>>>>>>>revenue
>>>>>>>>from his holdings. HE OWNS CITGO. This is a very important move that
>>>>
>>>>>>>>everyone
>>>>>>>>should be aware of.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>ANNOUNCED JUST RECENTLY, CITGO, BEING AWARE THAT SALES ARE DOWN DUE
>>>TO
>>>>
>>>>>>>>U.S.
>>>>>>>>CUSTOMERS NOT WANTING TO BUY FROM "CITGO-CHAVEZ", HAVE STARTED TO
>CHANGE
>>>>>>>>THE NAME OF SOME OF THEIR STORES TO: "PETRO EXPRESS"
>>>>>>>>DO NOT BUY FROM "PETRO EXPRESS" EITHER!!! "PETRO EXPRESS" IS ALSO
>100%
>>>>
>>>>>>>>OWNED
>>>>>>>>BY "CHAVEZ."
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>KEEP THIS MEMO GOING SO THAT EVERYONE KNOWS WHAT IS HAPPENING.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>BOYCOTT "CITGO" AND "PETRO EXPRESS".............MAKE SURE THIS IS
>PASSED
>>>>>>>>ON TO EVERYONE in YOUR E-MAIL LIST IN THE UNITED STATES AND OUTSIDE
>>>OF
>>>>
>>>>>>>>AMERICA.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>DC . The line should be drawn by first getting rid of this President. Then
holding him up for charges of treason..
You can say fire. We have a president that calls everyone who does agree
with him a terroist and anti-american. And it's seems that people like you
believe in his bull-shit.
"DC" <dc@spammersinhell.com> wrote:
>
>"Gene Lennon" <glennon@NOSPmyrealbox.com> wrote:
>
>>One thing it should always mean is that you can say what you think. Even
>>if it is extremely critical of US policies. This is the most basic principle
>>that this country was founded on.
>>Try to remember what it is that you are so bent on defending. Basic American
>>ideals. Like freedom of speech!
>>Gene
>
>
>I'm with you... But where is the line? Can you say that I hope we lose
>
>a war? Can you say the president should be killed? Can you yell "fire"
>in a crowded theater? Can you incite to riot? Can you publish information
>that is likely to cause the death of US military personnel?
>
>It is so damn easy to be for "free speech" and so damn hard to admit
>that nothing is free...
>
>
>DCLaMont, your thinking is way off! You can't blame everything on Bush.
My Canadian friends have to come over here because the waiting list for things
like surgery or even test results are so long. It doesn't work there, and
it wont work here, if our government runs it. Our government mismanages
everything!!!!!!!! Yes there should be some kind of low cost or free healthcare.
It should only be for American citizens!
Social Security is a joke! The idiots in government keep robbing it to pay
for their pork programs. The first law should be that they can't touch it
because they never pay it back and it's our money! Second should be that
the people have a choice in how it's invested, it's our money!!! They should
have split programs where you can have it invested in different accounts
so that it's diversified.
The mentality that the government should take care of you is a bad one.
The free ride in this country is going to be over soon!!!!!!!!
"LaMont" <jjdpro@ameritech.net> wrote:
>
>You got it..
>Question; Do you think every american wants capitalism? or would they prefer
>free health care and social security???
>
>
>"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>So when they start killing and oppressing people as communist always do,
>will
>>that go a long with your Christen beliefs? I don't see how the two fit.
>>
>>Just because Chavez is a communist and wants a communist government doesn't
>>mean that the people want it. I think they are proving that by their protesting.
>> Oh yeah, I forgot, that's just the dictator Bush's CIA at work, not the
>>real people of Venezuela.
>>
>>
>>"LaMont" <jjppro@ameritech.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>I thought you were a Christian?
>>>
>>>I am.. God's order of Government is a Theocracy and of a Democracy. One
>>ruler
>>>system.. Not baiting..
>>>
>>>USA should be dictating policy over another country. If they want to be
>>comunist
>>>let them. That's my belife. That does not manke me anyless american..
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>What's wrong wit Communism? I thought you were a Christian? Well anyways,
>>>>try freedom!!! When you rule your people with military force and take
>>their
>>>>freedoms away It's not a good thing. They will kill anybody that does
>>not
>>>>want to go along. He will stay rich while the people live in poverty,
>>that's
>>>>the Communist way. He is just another communist dictator. He want's
>to
>>>>arm Communist rebels all over south america. That's not good for anybody,
>>>>especially America. That will cause conflicts that a lot of people will
>>>>die in, possibly americans. The USA will not just stand by and watch
>south
>>>>america fall to communism.
>>>>
>>>>LaMont, I guess you are showing your true anti American colors. Or are
>>>you
>>>>just bating? Please clarify.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>"LaMont" <jjdpro@ameritech.net> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>same with tme. I had a 88 Izuzu I mark and filled it with some citgo
>gas/water
>>>>>and it killed my catalytic converter..
>>>>>
>>>>>It took a long time for me to buy Citgo gas . But, just because a country
>>>>>is communist, does that mean they are evil??
>>>>>Come on man. Take off the USA blinders..
>>>>>
>>>>>"James McC
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| Re: OT: Wow, way to go France! [message #84194 is a reply to message #84140] |
Tue, 08 May 2007 21:20 |
Rich Lamanna
Messages: 316
Registered: February 2006
|
Senior Member |
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@hotmail.com" target="_blank">excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>By the way, In 1995 I purchased a brand new Firebird. About
>>a
>>>>month
>>>>>>>>>>after
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>getting the car I got gas at a Citgo station. with in minutes
>>>>of
>>>>>>>pulling
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>out, the engine ceased up. Towed it in to a dealer and found
>>>out
>>>>>>>I
>>>>>>>>>had
>>>>>>>>>>>>>bad
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>gas. I had the state of Michigan come out and test the gas.
>>
>>>71%
>>>>>>>was
>>>>>>>>>>>water,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>about 8% was solid garbage, and the rest was gas. It took
out
>>>>all
>>>>>>>>of
>>>>>>>>>>>the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>fuel injectors and the fuel pump. It did about $1700.00 in
>damage.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Citgo refused to take any responsibility for their product,
>>and
>>>>>>refused
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>to pay for the damage. They immediately told me that they
were
>>>>>not
>>>>>>>>>responsible
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>for their product after it left their refinery. Apparently
>that
>>>>>>was
>>>>>>>>>>their
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>standard response for anybody that called them about bad gas.
>>>
>>>>It
>>>>>>>took
>>>>>>>>>>>>about
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>6 months to get it straitened out. The state of Michigan gave
>>>>them
>>>>>>>>>a
>>>>>>>>>>>choice,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>pay for the damages or pay a $25,000.00 fine. The arab gas
>station
>>>>>>>>>owner
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>had to pay for the damage.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>My neighbor later told me that when that gas station would
start
>>>>>>running
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>out of gas he would see them put the garden hose down in to
>their
>>>>>>>tanks.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So I guess the owner deserved what he got. There were also
>>many
>>>>>>>reports
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>on the news of people getting bad gas from Citgo stations all
>>>over
>>>>>>>>town.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Needless to say, I never buy gas at Citgo. What a PITA! If
>>you
>>>>>>want
>>>>>>>>>>>to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>buy your gas from them that's up to you.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>When possible I will avoid buying Communist made products.
>And
>>>>>yes
>>>>>>>>>I
>>>>>>>>>>>am
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>aware of where some of my favorite products are made. I don't
>>>>like
>>>>>>>>>it.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>"LaMont" <jjdpro@ameritech.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Hugo Chavez is a hero. A man willing to sand up for his counry
>>>>>and
>>>>>>>>>not
>>>>>>>>>>>>>let
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>a another country (USA) tell him how to run thier commodity.
>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>This is nothing more than tipical US spin machine out to sway
>>>>puplic
>>>>>>>>>>>opinion
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>about those leaders that don't drink the US Kool-Aid.. They
>>(Venezuelans)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>don't need our aid. They have their own precious commodity.
>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Wake up people, are we to believe every word coming from our
>>>Goverment??
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Thanks God for Citgo..
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>This was a email I received.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Diane Sawyer on ABC news interviewed the Venezuelan leader
>>Chavez
>>>>>>>>>just
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>last
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>week -- March 2007 He is so dangerous, and you can tell he
>>is
>>>>>thrilled
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>be selling oil toAmerica and having a foot on the throat
of
>>>this
>>>>>>>>country.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>He is something else. If you did not hear the interview,
the
>>>>following
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>was
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>discussed and it is true. They have all this money coming
>in
>>>>and
>>>>>>>>the
>>>>>>>>>>>>majority
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>of his own people are living in poverty and he is so rich.
>>He
>>>>>is
>>>>>>>>best
>>>>>>>>>>>>>of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>friends with Castro and Russian leaders. He told Diane Sawyer
>>>>>that
>>>>>>>>>>he
>>>>>>>>>>>>>was
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>friends with all the world leaders, but President Bush is
>as
>>>>dumb
>>>>>>>>>as
>>>>>>>>>>>>a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>'donkey'.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>CITGO CHANGING NAME...this is serious Americans...make sure
>>>you
>>>>>>>read
>>>>>>>>>>>>..
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>NEWS FLASH: Chavez is NOW getting a Russian Weapons Factory
>>>built
>>>>>>>>>by
>>>>>>>>>>>>Putin.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>The RUSSIANS are building an AK-47 Kalashnikov Assault Rifle
>>>>factory
>>>>>>>>>>>>in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Venezuela,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>to give armament support to Communist Rebel groups throughout
>>>>>the
>>>>>>>>>Americas.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Chavez NOW has IRANIANS operating his oil refineries in Venezuela
>>>>>>>>>for
>>>>>>>>>>>>>him.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>It is likely only a matter of time, if not already, before
>>Chavez
>>>>>>>>>has
>>>>>>>>>>>>>Iranian
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>built LONG RANGE missiles, with a variety of warhead types
>>aimed
>>>>>>>>at:
>>>>>>>>>>>>Guess
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Who?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>CITGO is NOW in the process of Changing Its Name to PETRO
>EXPRESS
>>>>>>>>>due
>>>>>>>>>>>>>to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>the loss of gasoline sales in the USA due to the recent publicity
>>>>>>>>>of
>>>>>>>>>>>>ownership
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>by Chavez of Venezuela.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Every dollar you spend with CITGO or PETRO EXPRESS gasoline
>>>will
>>>>>>>>be
>>>>>>>>>>>used
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>against you, your basic human rights, and your freedoms.
He
>>>will
>>>>>>>>start
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>wars
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>here in the Americas that will probably be the death of millions
>>>>>>>>of
>>>>>>>>>>>free
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>people.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>THIS IS VERY IMPORTANT because Chavez is starting to feel
>the
>>>>>loss
>>>>>>>>>>of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>revenue
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>from his holdings. HE OWNS CITGO. This is a very important
>>move
>>>>>>>that
>>>>>>>>>>>>everyone
>>>>>>>>>>
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| Re: OT: Wow, way to go France! [message #84203 is a reply to message #84194] |
Tue, 08 May 2007 22:21 |
Jamie K
Messages: 1115
Registered: July 2006
|
Senior Member |
|
|
;>>>>>>>>I am.. God's order of Government is a Theocracy and of a Democracy.
>>>>>>>One
>>>>>>>>>>>ruler
>>>>>>>>>>>>system.. Not baiting..
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>USA should be dictating policy over another country. If they
want
>>>>>to
>>>>>>>>be
>>>>>>>>>>>comunist
>>>>>>>>>>>>let them. That's my belife. That does not manke me anyless american..
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>What's wrong wit Communism? I thought you were a Christian?
>
>>Well
>>>>>>>anyways,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>try freedom!!! When you rule your people with military force
>>and
>>>>>>take
>>>>>>>>>>>their
>>>>>>>>>>>>>freedoms away It's not a good thing. They will kill anybody
>that
>>>>>>does
>>>>>>>>>>>not
>>>>>>>>>>>>>want to go along. He will stay rich while the people live in
>>poverty,
>>>>>>>>>>>that's
>>>>>>>>>>>>>the Communist way. He is just another communist dictator.
He
>>>want's
>>>>>>>>>>to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>arm Communist rebels all over south america. That's not good
>>for
>>>>>>anybody,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>especially America. That will cause conflicts that a lot of
>people
>>>>>>>>will
>>>>>>>>>>>>>die in, possibly americans. The USA will not just stand by
and
>>>>watch
>>>>>>>>>>south
>>>>>>>>>>>>>america fall to communism.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>LaMont, I guess you are showing your true anti American colors.
>>>>
>>>>>Or
>>>>>>>>are
>>>>>>>>>>>>you
>>>>>>>>>>>>>just bating? Please clarify.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>"LaMont" <jjdpro@ameritech.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>same with tme. I had a 88 Izuzu I mark and filled it with some
>>>>citgo
>>>>>>>>>>gas/water
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>and it killed my catalytic converter..
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>It took a long time for me to buy Citgo gas . But, just because
>>>>>a
>>>>>>>country
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>is communist, does that mean they are evil??
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Come on man. Take off the USA blinders..
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>By the way, In 1995 I purchased a brand new Firebird. About
>>>a
>>>>>month
>>>>>>>>>>>after
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>getting the car I got gas at a Citgo station. with in minutes
>>>>>of
>>>>>>>>pulling
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>out, the engine ceased up. Towed it in to a dealer and found
>>>>out
>>>>>>>>I
>>>>>>>>>>had
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>bad
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>gas. I had the state of Michigan come out and test the gas.
>>>
>>>>71%
>>>>>>>>was
>>>>>>>>>>>>water,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>about 8% was solid garbage, and the rest was gas. It took
>out
>>>>>all
>>>>>>>>>of
>>>>>>>>>>>>the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>fuel injectors and the fuel pump. It did about $1700.00 in
>>damage.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Citgo refused to take any responsibility for their product,
>>>and
>>>>>>>refused
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>to pay for the damage. They immediately told me that they
>were
>>>>>>not
>>>>>>>>>>responsible
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>for their product after it left their refinery. Apparently
>>that
>>>>>>>was
>>>>>>>>>>>their
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>standard response for anybody that called them about bad gas.
>>>>
>>>>>It
>>>>>>>>took
>>>>>>>>>>>>>about
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>6 months to get it straitened out. The state of Michigan
gave
>>>>>them
>>>>>>>>>>a
>>>>>>>>>>>>choice,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>pay for the damages or pay a $25,000.00 fine. The arab gas
>>station
>>>>>>>>>>owner
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>had to pay for the damage.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>My neighbor later told me that when that gas station would
>start
>>>>>>>running
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>out of gas he would see them put the garden hose down in to
>>their
>>>>>>>>tanks.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So I guess the owner deserved what he got. There were also
>>>many
>>>>>>>>reports
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>on the news of people getting bad gas from Citgo stations
all
>>>>over
>>>>>>>>>town.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Needless to say, I never buy gas at Citgo. What a PITA!
If
>>>you
>>>>>>>want
>>>>>>>>>>>>to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>buy your gas from them that's up to you.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>When possible I will avoid buying Communist made products.
>
>>And
>>>>>>yes
>>>>>>>>>>I
>>>>>>>>>>>>am
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>aware of where some of my favorite products are made. I don't
>>>>>like
>>>>>>>>>>it.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>"LaMont" <jjdpro@ameritech.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Hugo Chavez is a hero. A man willing to sand up for his counry
>>>>>>and
>>>>>>>>>>not
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>let
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>a another country (USA) tell him how to run thier commodity.
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>This is nothing more than tipical US spin machine out to
sway
>>>>>puplic
>>>>>>>>>>>>opinion
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>about those leaders that don't drink the US Kool-Aid.. They
>>>(Venezuelans)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>don't need our aid. They have their own precious commodity.
>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Wake up people, are we to believe every word coming from
our
>>>>Goverment??
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Thanks God for Citgo..
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>This was a email I received.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Diane Sawyer on ABC news interviewed the Venezuelan leader
>>>Chavez
>>>>>>>>>>just
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>last
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>week -- March 2007 He is so dangerous, and you can tell
he
>>>is
>>>>>>thrilled
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>be selling oil toAmerica and having a foot on the throat
>of
>>>>this
>>>>>>>>>country.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>He is something else. If you did not hear the interview,
>the
>>>>>following
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>was
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>discussed and it is true. They have all this money coming
>>in
>>>>>and
>>>>>>>>>the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>majority
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>of his own people are living in poverty and he is so rich.
>>>He
>>>>>>is
>>>>>>>>>best
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>friends with Castro and Russian leaders. He told Diane Sawyer
>>>>>>that
>>>>>>>>>>>he
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>was
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>friends with all the world leaders, but President Bush is
>>as
>>>>>dumb
>>>>>>>>>>as
>>>>>>>>>>>>>a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>'donkey'.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>CITGO CHANGING NAME...this is serious Americans...make sure
>>>>you
>>>>>>>>read
>>>>>>>>>>>>>..
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>NEWS FLASH: Chavez is NOW getting a Russian Weapons Factory
>>>>built
>>>>>>>>>>by
>>>>>>>>>>>>>Putin.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>The RUSSIANS are building an AK-47 Kalashnikov Assault Rifle
>>>>>factory
>>>>>>>>>>>>>in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Venezuela,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>to give armament support to Communist Rebel groups throughout
>>>>>>the
>>>>>>>>>>Americas.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Chavez NOW has IRANIANS operating his oil refineries in
Venezuela
>>>>>>>>>>for
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>him.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>It is likely only a matter of time, if not already, before
>>>Chavez
>>>>>>>>>>has
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Iranian
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>built LONG RANGE missiles, with a variety of warhead types
>>>aimed
>>>>>>>>>at:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>Guess
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Who?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>CITGO is NOW in the process of Changing Its Name to PETRO
>>EXPRESS
>>>>>>>>>>due
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>the loss of gasoline sales in the USA due to the recent
publicity
>>>>>>>>>>of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>ownership
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>by Chavez of Venezuela.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>><
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