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| 3 Cards? [message #76983] |
Wed, 13 December 2006 06:56  |
cujo
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ings that make computer recording worth
>it. Then I forgot to save the presets, but hey, that's the way it goes.
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>TCBWhere's the fuel? You mean you finally noticed that Apple has gone to
Intel for hardware designs, and onboard graphics on the low end models?
This is pretty old news. When Apple announced the Intel switch more than
a year ago, this was one of the reasons given. The Macbook is their low
end laptop, and probably the biggest cost reduction was using the
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| Re: 3 Cards? [message #76984 is a reply to message #76983] |
Wed, 13 December 2006 07:03  |
Phil Aiken
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onboard graphics instead of something snazzier. The Macbook Pro has the
snazzier stuff, but it's still off the shelf with OSX drivers. Apple
doesn't and hasn't ever AFAIK developed their own graphics chipsets.
Well heck, they don't develop their own CPUs either, although I imagine
they give input to those companies. Up until last year Apple chose
different CPU models than were blessed by Microsoft, and tried to gain
an advantage from the differences. Now they are using the same CPUs that
Microsoft likes, so any advantage is going to be from design and software.
I like Apple's desktop case design. Really easy to get into and change
memory, drives, etc.; quiet and cool running airflow. The laptop designs
have varied at accessibility, sometimes compromising for thinness. For
example my PowerBook is easy to access for memory upgrades but not for
HD upgrades. That may have changed in the new ones.
Mac laptop sales are rising, other manufacturers are copying their form
factor, but if you ever buy one (other than overpaying for a Macbook for
someone else, and then complaining about it) I'll be amazed. Sorry you
had to subject yourself to working on a Mac today, but even sorrier you
had to infect it with XP. ;^)
Cheers,
-Jamie
www.JamieKrutz.com
TCB
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| Re: 3 Cards? [message #76985 is a reply to message #76984] |
Wed, 13 December 2006 07:18 |
cujo
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> So, I had to set up XP on a Mac Book today. The child of an important person
> on my office had one and, surprise, most of the games a 12 year old likes
> to play don't have Mac versions.
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> So, once and for all I can put to rest the notion that Apple hardware is
> somehow 'super special' and thus justifies the higher price. Intel chipset,
> Intel integrated graphics, Atheros wireless, Marvell NIC, generic firewire
> controller. The CD/DVD burner was the slot loading kind, so that's slightly
> cool (unless you want to pop out the CD before the machine boots when it's
> nice to have a physical switch), but that's about the only thing unusual
> about the hardware. If you were to show me the XP device list for a Mac Book
> and the same list from a Dell 640m (two of which I've also set up recently)
> I would have given a _slight_ preference to the Dell, mostly because it uses
> an Intel wireless chipset that does b/g/n and bluetooth on one chip, and
> I've had very good luck with those wireless cards. A 640m also has a larger
> screed and costs around $750.
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> In better news, I wound up on modular synth dreamland for about five hours
> last night, wiring up my John Bowen Pro Wave into modular patches and using
> it to feed vocoders and all of the things that make computer recording worth
> it. Then I forgot to save the presets, but hey, that's the way it goes.
>
> TCB"Tony Benson" <tony@standinghampton.com> wrote:
>James,
>
>I made a promise
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| Re: 3 Cards? [message #76989 is a reply to message #76984] |
Wed, 13 December 2006 07:37 |
Sound Dog
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because of Windows compatibility and software.
>> I said check it out, because you don't know until you check it out
>> completely.
>> it is windows compatible. I stated the features, design and user interface
>> are superior. It's not a big and bulky as it's competitors. It's a
>> smaller
>> sleeker design with a 3.5 LCD. The UI is obviously more advanced, they
>> can
>> create new user interfaces in software in to the future to add more
>> features
>> and software. It has better features like rich HTML web pages with zoom
>> in, web pages look like web pages, landscape viewing, text to voice etc.
>> It's best to go get an education on it and watch the video before you
rip
>> on it just because it's an Apple product.
>>
>> Yes, the video is a sales pitch! It's also a demo of the products. It's
>> always a good thing to know what your talking about first hand, especially
>> when your going to bash something.
>>
>> James
>>
>> "Martin Harrington" <lendan@bigpond.net.au> wrote:
>>>Hmmm, A "Zealot" calling the kettle black.
>>>I hope you re-read some of your recent posts in a week or two and discover
>>
>>>what we all see.
>>>--
>>>Martin Harrington
>>>www.lendanear-sound.com
>>>
>>>"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>>news:45a5ca84$1@linux...
>>>>
>>>> "LaMont" <jjdpro@ameritech.net> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>The Treo 700wx does all those things: With a touch screen to boot.
>>>>>
>>>>>And while the Iphone syncs perfectly with itunes, the Tr
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| Re: 3 Cards? [message #76991 is a reply to message #76989] |
Wed, 13 December 2006 08:24 |
Carl Amburn
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ut Windows Media Player, is that they have
>>
>>>> copied
>>>> the itunes interface, Aqua theme/look, even the Itunes logo with the
>>>> aqua
>>>> musical note and the CD. It's all hard to not notice MS's blatant rip
>> off
>>>> of Apple design and innovation, just look at Vista. They been at it
for
>>>> years.
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>Jamie K <Meta@Dimensional.com> wrote:
>>>>>>LaMont wrote:
>>>>>>> Jamie, it's Kool-aid to actually believe that Apple has AGAIN (Lol!!)
>>>>>Re-invented
>>>>>>> the phone...
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Well, it's a phone/media player/PDA/camera (what did I leave out?).
The
>>>>>
>>>>>>"reinvention" really has to do with the finger-touch-screen interface,
>>>>
>>>>>>right? So we'll see if it lives up to the hype when it ships.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Man, that guy (Mr Jobs) does not quit with his BS.. Please Mr Jobs
>> stop
>>>>>with
>>>>>>> the propaganda.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Heh. It's a good thing you're immune to hyped advertising because we're
>>>>>
>>>>>>surrounded by it from all directions.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Next week, if Apple comes out with a new version of Logic, they'll
>>
>>>>>>> claim
>>>>>>> to ahve Re-Invented the DAW..
>>>>>>
>>>>>>They can claim whatever they want, as long as the next version is at
>>>>>>least as solid as the current version, further streamlined in the UI,
>>>>>>and no less capable. :^)
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Cheers,
>>>>>> -Jamie
>>>>>> www.JamieKrutz.com
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Jamie K <Meta@Dimensional.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>> Liking a product from a particular company isn't necessarily a
>>>>>>>> koolaid
>>>>>
>>>>>>>> proposition. Sometimes engineers earn their fans.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> In this case, it looks like Apple's engineers have done something
>>>>>>>> different from other options, with some unique interactive features
>>>> and
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> UI implem
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| Re: 3 Cards? [message #77010 is a reply to message #76991] |
Wed, 13 December 2006 17:02 |
cujo
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surprising. But somebody pointing to a new
>>>product
>>>>>>from a computer co and getting sarcasm, disgust, resentment and
>>>>>>mockery just makes no sense.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Ted
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Well Martin, you can call me a Mac zealot, but it's not exactly true.
>>>>
>>>>>Unlike
>>>>>>>you, I use and own both PCs and Macs. I actually use my PCs on a
regular
>>>>>>>basis. I've used PCs longer than I've used Macs, by about ten years.
>>>>
>>>>>I've
>>>>>>>been a licensed and authorized computer dealer. I've bought, sold,
>>and
>>>>>>built
>>>>>>>many PCs
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>I think windows XP is a great improvement over MS's past operating
>systems.
>>>>>>> I wish there was a feature or two in Mac OSX that Windows XP has,
>but
>>>>>that's
>>>>>>>where it ends. I prefer Mac OSX to Windows because Windows machines
>>>are
>>>>>>>a major PITA to deal with.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>There are many other reasons why I don't like MS, one of which is
all
>>>>the
>>>>>>>stuff they have ripped off from Apple. It's funny when people say
>MS/PC
>>>>>>>stuff is great and anything Apple sucks, when MS stole it from Apple.
>>>>
>>>>>Some
>>>>>>>recent examples are, Media player, Vista, and Zune. MS just announced
>>>>>at
>>>>>>>CES, that they are going to come out with set top boxes that are like
>>>>the
>>>>>>>Apple TV box. MS/Sony's will be round instead of square, but what
>color?
>>>>>>> Gloss white like the apple products! It's the same thing. Hey,
may
>>>>be
>>>>>>>MS's branded products will be shit brown like the LG products. LOL!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>I mention new products to give people here a heads up here. I have
>>mention
>>>>>>>all kinds of products including PC only products. It's the Mac bashing!
>>>>>>> You can't mention any thing Mac or Apple without some bashing here.
>>>
>>>>It's
>>>>>>>always the same guys. You have stated in the past that Mac OSX crashes.
>>>>>>> That the guys you work with have told you and you've see it. I've
>>been
>>>>>>>using Mac OSX every day for over five years now with out a crash.
>I
>>>think
>>>>>>>the other Mac guys here would tell you pretty much the same thing.
>
>>I
>>>>don't
>>>>>>>know why they would have so much problems, but OSX is for the most
>part
>>>>>>problem
>>>>>>>free for most users. To state other wise is not correct generally
>speaking,
>>>>>>>and sounds like typical mac bashing.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>I've never had a virus on a
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