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| Wavelab and dithering question [message #70136] |
Sun, 09 July 2006 07:30  |
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>>>Because, John, I already HAVE "the SHIT" in a shockmount case measuring
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>>>3'-2"D x 5'-8"H x 26"W filled with $7000 @ 347lbs worth of fabulous
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>>>Moreover, any great player can get the "real SHIT" s
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| Re: Wavelab and dithering question [message #70147 is a reply to message #70141] |
Sun, 09 July 2006 11:36  |
cujo
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gt; >"Nappy" <mgrant01@san.rr.com> wrote:
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>>>> http://video.google.de/videoplay?docid=-1272980089639960023& amp;q=loose+chang
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>> >> >Nappy-
>> >> >
>> >> >first of all, it's great to see you again!
>> >> >
>> >> >second of all, I was pretty impressed by Loose Change.
>> >> >Then some months later I read this:
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>> >> >http://911research.wtc7.net/reviews/loose_change/index.html
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>> >> >Check it out!
>> >> >
>> >> >-Steve
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>To me the Tonelab is great for clean, jazz tones, BUT, just average for the
crunch and burn tones. Maybe they (VOX) was not going for the Mesa Boogie
dual rectifire tones or even the super marshall hot tones.
All in all, good for some things, not good for others.
"John" <no@no.com> wrote:
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>I wish I had a ToneLab, but I just have a Line 6 Ax212. It's nice but buggy.
> Big volume jumps on startup when you change presets, using unisyn editor
>can make it scream into feedback if you're not careful.
>
>Overall it has lots of really good sounds but I'm not a good enough guitar
>player to make it worth going to a ToneLab. Also, the ToneLab is not stereo
>and I'm guessing the next version might be. I think I have this phobia
about
>stompboxes cuz they seem to all get chained together and then become one
>big mess of wall warts and noise. Let us know how you like the box, that
>is a
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| Re: Wavelab and dithering question [message #70160 is a reply to message #70147] |
Sun, 09 July 2006 18:43 |
Chris Ludwig
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> >> >> under the leadership of a wanna be dictator!!and his cronnies..
> >Lastly,
> >> >> most Americans feel 'Less Safe " now than 2002.. Wanna bet? Let's
first
> >> >ask
> >> >> the good folks from New Orleans & Mississippi and Alabama .. That
> >showed
> >> >> every American how our Government would respond if we were
attacked..???
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> "Steve the artguy" <artguy@somethingorother.net> wrote:
> >> >> >
> >> >> >"Nappy" <mgrant01@san.rr.com> wrote:
> >> >> >>
> >> >>
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>>>> http://video.google.de/videoplay?docid=-1272980089639960023& amp;q=loose+chan
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> >e
> >> >> >
> >> >> >Nappy-
> >> >> >
> >> >> >first of all, it's great to see you again!
> >> >> >
> >> >> >second of all, I was pretty impressed by Loose Change.
> >> >> >Then some months later I read this:
> >> >> >
> >> >> >http://911research.wtc7.net/reviews/loose_change/index.html
> >> >> >
> >> >> >Check it out!
> >> >> >
> >> >> >-Steve
> >> >>
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
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> >
>"DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote:
>I hate the idea of war as much as you do. I have actually thought long and
>hard about going over there myself. If there was something I could do other
>than get in the way. and I didn't have a family to support, I might check
>with the military to see if there's a *geezers batallion*. I don't have
any
>formal military training, but I know how to handle firearms, and I'm deadly
>accurate.
>It would piss off my wife to no end and I'm 56 and 'purt'near used up so
I
>don't know how well this old body would handle the rigours of battlefield
>combat and the heat, but I'll guarantee you that I would have no problem
at
>all if muy son or daughter joined a volunteer army and that army was called
>on to fight, I would support them 100%.
>
DJ-
Next time you get that feeling, read this:
http://www.amconmag.com/2006/2006_07_03/article.html
-steveHi John,
I'm glad to hear I'm not alone. :)
I wonder if a lot of the criticism is actually directed at the Studio version.
It's response curve looks like it extends more into the high, high end and
has less of a mid bump. Who knows.
I never thought I'd say this about anything, but I love them more than PARIS.
:)
Cheers!
Mike
"John Macy" <spamlessjohn@johnmacy.com> wrote:
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>I have been using NS10's pretty much exclusively since'the early 8
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| Re: Wavelab and dithering question [message #70170 is a reply to message #70160] |
Mon, 10 July 2006 07:36 |
cujo
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t;> The only we should be ready to face is the (Bush-ites) neo-cons aka the
> >present
> >> rulers of our government. They are the ones who are taking away our
> >liberties,freedom
> >> under the guise of democracy.
> >>
> >
> >Did you read any part of the link I posted? If so, are you dismissing it
> >completely?
> >
> >> It's really ashame that the 33-36 percent of you who still believe i
this
> >> regime, are still drinking the kool-iad that Tony Snow spills. It's soo
> >un-beliveable
> >> what they spew out these days to make their case. Now, it's become
> >laughable.
> >> Pretty pathetic that they continue to play the so called "RED-States
fear
> >> rhetoric to get support for thier imperialistic movement.
> >
> >Nobody wants war. Bin Ladin stated very publicly that the reason he
thought
> >he could win this war was because America no longer had the stomach for
> war
> >and that we were weak. He's right, apparently. Just look at the polls.
> >Clinton would have surrendered by now. Bush, no way, and that's one of
the
> >few things I like about him.
> >
> >>
> >> The Bush(ite)popularity polls show them @ around 33-36 percent. That
says
> >> that most of the folks who voted for him does not suppport him or that
> >"sham"
> >> Iraq war.
> >
> >The *sham Iraq war was started by Sadaam Hussein in 1991 and was still
going
> >strong, aided by the UN, French and Russians when Bush took office.
> >>
> >> What's even funny is that folkd like yourself willing to die for this
> sham
> >> of a cause, when the President himself and other Elites, will never
take
> >> up arms. Nor will their families allow them to. See, that's what poor
> >folks
> >> are for. They take up arms for the rich. Hey, I don't blame Bush for
> >weasling
> >> out the vietam war..That was a smart thing to do. But, I'd be damm if
> I'd
> >> send or give my blessing to my sons for this most un-knoble cause.
> >> LAD
> >
> >Hmmm.........well, how about your poster child for all that is good in
the
> >world, Bill Clinton? This argument is lame LaMont and you should know
it.
> >Let's look at how we got here, shall we? We're coming out of a war that
> has
> >caused a glitch in the economy and Bush I has to raise taxes to pay for
> it.
> >Oher than that, it's roaring because of the Reagan tax cuts. We elect
slick
> >Willie because he talks a good game, there has been an end to the war,
> >sanctions are in place and the world is in a relatively stable condition.
> >The Soviet economic system has failed, capitalism is starting to remake
> >poliotical thinking in China (just as it has in Viet Nam) and there are
> some
> >incredible changes and opportunities to be had in the world. There were
> >still lots of threats and apparatchiks who were basically gangsters who
> >would sell their mother for money and the nuclear stores in Russia were
> >controlled by these guys. We needed an intelligence service to keep us up
> to
> >speed on a rapidly changing world.
> >
> >Now what would a *real*leader do? Would he live by opinion polls and
create
> >a personality cult or would he obey his oath of office and protect this
> >country?
> >
> >Well, the first thing he does is betray this country by instituting a new
> >policy at the CIA that severly limited the interaction of the CIA with
> >anyone who could be considered an embarrassment to the administration due
> to
> >their human rights history.That pretty much takes 90% of the folks in the
> >middle east, China and Russia who might be associated with terrorism and
> >espionage off the table. Well, this kind of idealism is all fine and good
> in
> >a perfect world, but totally unrealistic in the *real* wor
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| Re: Wavelab and dithering question [message #70172 is a reply to message #70170] |
Mon, 10 July 2006 08:02 |
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ed a policy of energy independence while we were in a relatively
> >secure position. It wouldn't have been popular because he wanted to
balance
> >the budget (a fleeting PR move on paper that weakened our security in
many
> >ways). He could have exercised some *real* leadership rather than making
> >excuses for the Europeans when they were quite willing to allow yet
another
> >genocide in Kosovo while dealing us under the table with the sanctions in
> >Iraq.
> >
> >Had we had any decent intelligence, we might not have had the debacle in
> >Somalia, but oh no.......can't deal with unsavory characters now can we?
> The
> >polls wouldn't support this............and finally........Mr. Bill
abrogated
> >his responsibility as a wiorld leader (his great ambition, right) by not
> >calling the UN to account for ignoring the most inexcusable, racist and
> >*unhumanitarian* act since the Holacaust by ignoring Rwanda completely
and
> >then offering up a teary eyed *excused* that he didn't know what was
> >happening. It was his job to know. If he did know, he's criminally
> >negligent. If he didn't know, he's criminally negligent. This failure of
> >leadership is inexcusable and smacks of extreme racism..
> >
> >Yeah.......let's let the liberals run the show again. I can't
> >wait...........and before you pop off and start calling me a neo-con, be
> >advised that I'm very much pro choice, in favor of population control and
> >think that organized religion has created a *rat breeding* mentality that
> >threatens the very existence of the human race, believe that global
warming
> >is very real and that we need to take action immediately or it's going to
> be
> >too late, am a borderline nut case when it comes to animal rights, hate
> war,
> >believe that immigration reform should be a humane process, believe in
> >government funded stem cell research. I'm a bit of a secularist , but I
> >think it's totally unrealistic to ignore the fact that this is a country
> >wherein the vast majority of people profess to practice, or at least
believe
> >in some sort of religious philosophy.......the majority being various
sects
> >of Christianity. I also agree that some are extremists (not just the
> >Christians, IMO) but I also keep in mind that the majority has rights as
> >well as the minority. It think that given this situation it would be
better
> >to allow free expression of *all* religions and *no religions* within
> >certain contextual guidelines in an effort to foster open dialogue and
> >understanding between the religions and atheists/agnostics in an effort
> to
> >point out their many similarities in thinking/philosophy rather than
> >segregating this to the respective religious centers. It's not going to
> go
> >away and when segregated away from scrutiny, any idea can become corrupt.
> I
> >think if this could happen, the obvious commonalities might tend to
diffuse
> >the agruments of the intolerant *armageddonists*. One thing that I firmly
> >believe is that if a group of people want something to happen bad enough,
> >they will find a way to make it happen. This is particularly scary when
> you
> >look at the *end of the world cults* who base their perception of world
> >events on the inveitability of their Biblical interpretation of
Revelations
> >and of the jihadists who .......well......no point in arguing the right
> and
> >wrong of this cause ad nauseum. .
> >
> >I also believe that the left in this country has been criminally stupid
> to
> >the point of treason with their anti-war antics and that if they are
brought
> >to power in the next round of elections, they will think that appeasing
> >terrorism will keep them safe. The terrorists, OTOH, will exploit the
> >weakensses in our system that the left has created and/or allowed to
fester
> >and will use them against all of us. As I said before, the
leftist/liberal
> >agenda is a total anathema to radical Islam. I really don't think you pay
> >much attention to the real agenda.
> >
> >There is so much more to the entire scenario than 9-11, yet it's
convenient
> >for those who want to try to undermine the administration politically, to
> >take up the mantra that if it doesn't apply directly to 9-11, then it's
> not
> >part of the overall problem. It's short-sighted and that's what scares me
> >about the anti-war faction. They seem to think that if we just don't
> >confront the jihadinazis, that they will leave us alone. I'm all for
freedom
> >of speech and free debate, but we've got some hard choices to make right
> now
> >and I'm in favor of having a country le
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| Re: Wavelab and dithering question [message #70176 is a reply to message #70172] |
Mon, 10 July 2006 08:50 |
cujo
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> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >Check it out!
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >-Steve
> >> >> >>
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>Thanks Mike,
I feel like your Dad!
respect
Nappy
"Mike R." <emarenot@yahoo.com> wrote:
>Hey Nappy. Always good to see your name on the NG. Hang in there dude.
>
>W, my dad had half his thyroid removed. The doc told him "no golf for the
>rest of the summer." He was out on the links in three weeks. My friend's
>aunt just had her entire thyroid removed. As it was causing some pain in
>her shoulder, she's feeling great --and for unknown reasons (she believes
>it's due to the lose of the thyroid) she reports feeling much more
>energetic. Nevertheless, having gone through the problem with my father,
I
>know its hard to feel some sense of relief until its over. Take care.
>MR
>
>"Dubya Mark Wilson" <mark.xspam@avidrecording.com> wrote in message
>news:44e6a2b4@linux...
>> You're hanging tough bro. Excellent! I hope and pray everything goes
>> better than anticipated. Side note: my wife received a phone call today
>> following and MRI yesterday for a recent neck injury (totalled one of
our
>> cars). Doc says he sees cancer on her thyroid gland. Meeting and
>> discussions to be set for Monday of this coming week. Not what I wanna
>> hear. She's badly shaken by the news. I'm just kinda stuck emotionally
>> until I learn more and we know what we're looking at. At this point,
we
>> can't both cave in... somebody's gotta hold the line.
>>
>> W.
>>
>> "Nappy" <mgrant01@san.rr.com> wrote in message news:44e694e9$1@linux...
>> >
>> > Dubya,
>> > I've been taking care of myself in hope of being put on the kidney
>> > transplant
>> > list.
>> > It should happen this month! I have a few people interested in giving
me
>> > a Kidney,
>> > but they have to go though a big exam to see if they are a good match.
>> > This
>> > can't
>> > happen until I'm put on the list. If all goes well I could have a
>> > transplant
>> > by
>> > early 2007!
>> >
>> > respect
>> > Nappy
>> >
>> > "Dubya Mark Wilson" <mark.xspam@avidrecording.com> wrote:
>> >>NAPPY !!!! He's baaaa-aaaaack!!!!!
>> >>Dubsie
>> >>
>> >>"Nappy" <mgrant01@san.rr.com> wrote in message news:44e66252$1@linux...
>> >>>
>> >>>
> http://video.google.de/videoplay?docid=-1272980089639960023& amp;q=loose+change
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>Jimmy, I use a Direct X version of Autotune (can't remember which off the
top of my head)...I'm certain it's an earlier version though. I've never
encountered any problems...Paris 3.0
Tyrone
"Uptown Jimmy" <johnson314@bellsouth.net> wrote:
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>Well, funny thing is, we just started using Autotune a week or two ago.
I've
>been having some occasional freezing-up problems on my computer; I wonder
>if that's also related?
>
>Is anybody using Autotune with Paris succesfully? If I disable DirectX,
we
>won't be able to use Autotune, right?
>
>Jimmy
>
>
>
>"Erick Kent" <erick at thefollower.com> wrote:
>>I am not sure if this is the same exact error message I was getting while
>
>>trying to use Amplitube, but it did crash Paris so badly that it wouldn't
>
>>start back up. I had to uninstall and then reinstall and then go into my
>
>>Paris config file and disable directx. Not sure what plug-in might be
>>causing this (if in fact it is a plug-in at all) but it definitely sounds
>
>>like that is what's going on.
>>
>>--
>>Erick Kent
>>"Uptown Jimmy" <johnson314@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
>>news:44e904b6$1@linux...
>>>
>>> My buddy Swen had this error message pop out of nowhere today. Everything
>>> worked fine last night, now he can't get Paris to fire up.
>>>
>>> unhandled exception: c0000005
>>> at address: 77c3f5ea
>>>
>>> Anybody?
>>> Jimmy
>>
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| Re: Wavelab and dithering question [message #70178 is a reply to message #70176] |
Mon, 10 July 2006 08:56 |
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vey corner of the earth.
>
> -Convices us that we must be at war until Jesus comes back..
>
> My questions are: Whatever happed to "We" US people will let you guys
fight
> your little war, and you'll "Bush-ites" will give us cheap gas??
>
> Well, we all got reamed with no grease on all fronts.. I live on a boader
> state-city (Cannda/Windor Ontario).. I guess since we're not geting the
infl;ux
> of hispanics like you guys in the southwest, there is not a big brew
ha..No,
> up here, it's about Jobs, Jobs, Jobs, Jobs and Gas$$$$ Gas $$$$ Gas$$$$..
>
>
>
>
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> "DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote:
> >LaMont,
> >
> >I certainly respect you faith, whatever that may be. I certainly disagree
> >with your opinions though. I'll be as ready as anyone for a new
> >administration, but it will need to be an administration that is willing
> to
> >fight, not appease.......and the idea of the likes of Harry Reed, Pelosi,
> >Kennedy, etc. having positions of greater power and influence bode ill
for
> >the future of this nation. I do agree with you about the border
situation.
> >that's the biggest clusterfuck that Bush has pulled, IMHO. the first
thing
> >we should have done after 911 was secure the borders, no matter what the
> >cost politically and monetarily. I doubt, however, that anyone, democrat
> or
> >republican will be willing to do this. Folks may be paranoid about NYC,
> but
> >Houston is where the energy infrastructure lies and one nuke in or around
> >the Houston ship channel and we're toast.
> >
> >Regards,
> >
> >DJ
> >
> >
> >
> >"LaMont" <jjdpro@ameritech.net> wrote in message news:44e93a92$1@linux...
> >>
> >> Dj, you rally believe this "If the left can't get Bush at the ballot
ox,
> >then
> >> let's get the media allies on board and just take the whole damned
country
> >> down if that's what it takes to pursue the progressive ideology.."
> >>
> >> This is not about the left or the tight, dems & reps. you have drank-ed
> >the
> >> kool-aid of the Bush(ites).. Most Republicans have abandoned ship long
> >time
> >> ago and are now willing to stand up and disagree with the
President.Callit
> >> Mid-term elections.
> >>
> >> One thing is for sure, any other Republican president would not have
gone
> >> down this road.. This is a Neo-Con road. This has nothing to do with
left
> >> or right. The bush(ites0 have "SCREWED" it's on base party. Can some
say
> >> "Boarders"..? Judge Appointments, Taxes , Deficit.. Bush is more
Liberal
> >> than our last 2 liberal presidents...Imagine that.?? He keeps spending
> and
> >> spending with reckless abandonment.
> >> Bush (I love this) is playing both sides of the Ilse as well as Clinton
> >did.
> >> AND , he does not care if he screws those who support him.. All those
> poor
> >> working folks in the red states, now pay 3.00 bucks at the
pump(LOL)..!!
> >> Oh yeah.. Faith based initiatives".. ??(Jeopardy music) ...
> >>
> >> No, I'm an conservative Christian.. Most of my family are Conservative
> >Democrats.
> >> In Michigan, that means you are Pro union and proud of it..They
Michigan
> >> Dems are not weak, scared. Having Most them like my Dad and uncles have
> >fought
> >> (union) hard battles wars) for better working conditions and fair pay.
> >Some
> >> lives were lost. That kind of spirit can be found in all Northern (Blue
> >Collar)
> >> Blue states... Most of us are hunters and great fishermen. We love our
> >guns..
> >>
> >>
> >> So, you play that dems & repubs game all you like. But, both whites and
> >non
> >> whites in our neck of the woods can smell a Rat!! and that schicht is
> >coming
> >> from the white house..
> >> No, we have bigger problems to worry about than some played up war form
> >some
> >> imperialistic games. We have our jobs, gas prices, educating our
> >children..than
> >> to bogged down in a stupid so -called war..
> >> You say that's being minded and soft..I say, We are not drinking the
> >kool-aid..
> >> So, if the 33 percent of you get your kicks out of prepping for war,
then
> >> be my guess. Go out play war all you want. Stay on the "edge" ... Watch
> >Fox
> >> new network all day and night...By the way: Since the Hezbollah/Israeli
> >war
> >> came to ahead, the networks have cut to a more Pressing story......
> >> They found the Jonbenet Ramsey murderer!!......
> >>
> >> Fox news has all hand on deck and a camera man waiting for this kook to
> >get
> >> off the plane!! a few stories about the war. Ohh..I guess, since we
were
> >> losing that war, in was not new worthy.
> >>
> >> Now, you say...What are the Dems going to.. Well, they can't do much
worse
> >> than that last regime..I mean, do i feel safer because Bush is in
> >office???
> >> No.. I feel safe for me and my family because God is still on thrown!!
> He
> >> is my protector..Every man (boy , girl) has an appointed time to live
> and
> >> to die. Me and ,ine put our trust in God's hands, not a
> >President(Republican
> >> or Democrat)..
> >>
> >> See, those you who are fearful because you've put your hope and faith
> and
> >> trust in a Man!! Well, Men, will fail you all the time. Those of us
who
> >> are believing Christians, should know better to put our hope, faith and
> >trust
> >> in a Man.. That's suicide and stupid!
> >> Even worst,putting your Hope, trust, and faith in a Politician..
> >> are we that stupid ??
> >> Next regime please..
>
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Mon, 10 July 2006 09:38 |
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Christianity
> in any way - these are just your political views. Don't confuse the two.
> It does more harm than good.
>
> On the war and our country itself...
>
> I have personally talked to several US soldiers who have been there, and
> have talked to Iraqis, in person - not what you think you hear from the
news
> media, or from a disgruntled private that just signed up with the Army to
> get a free education and wrote a book about it, but mid-level officers and
> doctors (e.g. not party line toters either) - and the Iraqis do appreciate
> that we ended the tyrannical regime they were under. I was blown away by
> the real world accounts I heard that completely contradict what the news
> media would have us believe (even if you support the war, this you would
> start to wonder who's doing the most lying) - these guys are Christians,
and
> spent their time there building schools, restoring power, providing aid to
> military and citizens alike - working with the people, not just working
the
> media.
>
> If you think that is of no value, then it would be interesting to hear
what
> our own ancestor countrymen would say of the civil war - was the cost of
> hundreds of thousands of lives, homes, farms, schools, women and children,
> and political turmoil worth it "just" to end slavery? Given what our
> country seems to think of the Iraqi people - ignorant, victims of the US
> military, better off under a murderous dictator, etc - I would have to say
I
> seriously doubt we would go down that road again. We would rather sit by
> and smugly to say that we weren't responsible for people dying - "we're
> better than that - we make great bystanders and self-righteous,
> self-absorbed pacifists". We would rather ride around in our
Detroit-built,
> union proud SUVs, sucking down expensive gasoline, buying frivolous
luxuries
> right and left from companies that help choke the atmosphere with
production
> pollution, watching movies that cost more than the food budget for Sudan
and
> complain about our government on the way home because we are embarrassed
> that France and Germany don't like us, and because it's more popular to
hate
> the President than actually do something to fix any of the above problems.
>
> Whether you like it or not, there is a direct parallel, and a sad one - DJ
> is right, we are weak - not militarily, but as a people. We have no
common
> bond of morality, ethics, integrity, patriotism, and honor - maybe if we
> really had that, we wouldn't be in Iraq *and* the Iraqi people would still
> be free to make their own decisions out from under the crushing weight of
a
> dictator's thumb. But sadly, we've chosen to adopt the hypocritical
facade
> that Hollywood and the news media feeds us. We are more interested in
> political correctness and putting on the appearance of righteousness than
> actually living it. I'm not in anyway saying war is righteous - it is
just
> a fact of a world that in majority doesn't have a moral value system. And
at
> the same time we are justifying our intellectually superior pacifism by
> turning a blind eye to true evil and in fact doing exactly what you claim
> others are doing - putting faith in Man. Mine isn't in any man on this
> planet. Completely independently of the government, we are yet again
> selling out our pride and integrity as people to the lowest cost bidder in
> exchange for a mask of fabricated peace, temporary freedom and empty
> compassion. We have more in common now with Hollywood 2006 than
> Philadelphia 1776, much less 0 BC.
>
> "Where is the hope? I meet millions who tell me that they feel demoralized
> by the decay around us. Where is the hope? The hope that each of us have
is
> not in who governs us, or what laws are passed, or what great things that
we
> do as a nation. Our hope is in the power of God working through the hearts
> of people, and thatıs where our hope is in this country; thatıs where our
> hope is in life." - Chuck Colson
>
> Dedric
>
> On 8/21/06 1:05 AM, in article 44e95b3a$1@linux, "LaMont"
> <jjdpro@ameritech.net> wrote:
>
> >
> > What I'm saying is (from aprevious post) is that I feel that this
> > administration
> > are killers. They killed our young soldiers for a stupid cause.
> > As to my I'll take the terroist" statement..Well, Dedric ask an Iraqi
citizen
> > about who they think are the terrorist???
> >
> > As for that statement being unchristian. Well who said that the American
> > policy is the "Thee" authority of Christianity???
> > My views are not slanderer not in fear of speaking against a burgeoning
> > tyranny.
> >
> >
> > I know full well I don't speak for the entire Christian population, only
> > Jesus does. But, faith in a Man, is stupid..
> >
> > Yes, I feel that the Bush(ites) are evil. Evil lying politians. So, if
you
> > take that as being slanted, then so beit.
> >
> > So, you and the other 33-36 percent can keep on fighting the war on
terror
> > ,and find your WMD's or what ever.
> > I'm not buying it.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Dedric Terry <dterry@keyofd.net> wrote:
> >> Lamont, saying you would rather back terrorists (cold blooded killers)
is
> >> about as far from Christian belief as I've ever heard. It is not the
way
> > we
> >> believe or talk as Christians, based completely on what the Bible
teaches.
> >>
> >> If you don't like Bush, that's fine, but stereotyping and slandering
people
> >> while claiming you speak for the whole of Christianity in the same
breath
> > is
> >> wrong. No two ways about it my friend. No, you do not speak for
> >> Christianity as a faith. Democrat or Republican, your approach is
simply
> >> political hyperbole. Please don't confuse your political views with
faith.
> >>
> >> On 8/20/06 10:46 PM, in article 44e93a92$1@linux, "LaMont"
> >> <jjdpro@ameritech.net> wrote:
> >>
> >>>
> >>> Dj, you rally believe this "If the left can't get Bush at the ballot
ox,
> > then
> >>> let's get the media allies on board and just take the whole damned
country
> >>> down if that's what it takes to pursue the progressive ideology.."
> >>>
> >>> This is not about the left or the tight, dems & reps. you have
drank-ed
> > the
> >>> kool-aid of the Bush(ites).. Most Republicans have abandoned ship long
> > time
> >>> ago and are now willing to stand up and disagree with the
President.Callit
> >>> Mid-term elections.
> >>>
> >>> One thing is for sure, any other Republican president would not have
gone
> >
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Chris Ludwig
Messages: 868
Registered: May 2006
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e destroyed, it was in the early
>> >1990's.
>> >
>> >The democrats are again relying on polls and there is no doubt in my
mind
>> >that if Harry Reid, Nancy Pelosi, Dennis Kucinich and there ilk ascend
to
>> >power in the Congress, it will be a disaster because they cannot
>reconcile
>> >the fact that though 911 was not directly sponsored by Iraq, Iraq under
>> >Sadaam was still a huge part of the picture...........made moreso by
the
>> >crappy intelligence apparatus that was the Clinton legacy..
>> >
>> >Though there is little evidence Saddam was behind 911, What there is,
is
>> >evidence that the sanctions were killing a lot of Iraqis and that
>sanctions
>> >were going to have to be lifted. Then would we be safe? Does anyone think
>> >that if sanctions were lifted on Saddam (which they would have to be,
>since
>> >there were no WMD), that Saddam today would not be going nuclear like
>Iran?
>> >If the lack of WMD was known in 2003, *our allies* would have placed
>major
>> >pressure to lift sanctions. And if sanctions were lifted, Saddam would
be
>> a
>> >great danger. Do you think for one minute that Sadaam, seeing Iran going
>> >nuclear, would not want to go there himself.......again........with great
>> >haste? If the sanctions were properly enforced, a lot of people would
>not
>> >have died but no one was protesting while people were dying then. It
>> >wouldn't look good in the polls.
>> >
>> >Now LaMont, you seem to think that somehow if we just appease these
>facists,
>> >they will leave us alone and everyone would just be our buddy while
>totally
>> >ignoring the 8 years of unmitigated disaster that *was* the Clinton
>> >administration. (and don't call me a ****'in neo-con....I voted for him
>> too)
>> >
>> >To be a *real* leader Clinton would have immediately recoginzed that
the
>> >entire planet was at a crucial place in the history. He could have
>> >instituted a policy of energy independence while we were in a relatively
>> >secure position. It wouldn't have been popular because he wanted to
>balance
>> >the budget (a fleeting PR move on paper that weakened our security in
>many
>> >ways). He could have exercised some *real* leadership rather than making
>> >excuses for the Europeans when they were quite willing to allow yet
>another
>> >genocide in Kosovo while dealing us under the table with the sanctions
in
>> >Iraq.
>> >
>> >Had we had any decent intelligence, we might not have had the debacle
in
>> >Somalia, but oh no.......can't deal with unsavory characters now can
we?
>> The
>> >polls wouldn't support this............and finally........Mr. Bill
>abrogated
>> >his responsibility as a wiorld leader (his great ambition, right) by
not
>> >calling the UN to account for ignoring the most inexcusable, racist and
>> >*unhumanitarian* act since the Holacaust by ignoring Rwanda completely
>and
>> >then offering up a teary eyed *excused* that he didn't know what was
>> >happening. It was his job to know. If he did know, he's criminally
>> >negligent. If he didn't know, he's criminally negligent. This failure
of
>> >leadership is inexcusable and smacks of extreme racism..
>> >
>> >Yeah.......let's let the liberals run the show again. I can't
>> >wait...........and before you pop off and start calling me a neo-con,
be
>> >advised that I'm very much pro choice, in favor of population control
and
>> >think that organized religion has created a *rat breeding* mentality
that
>> >threatens the very existence of the human race, believe that global
>warming
>> >is very real and that we need to take action immediately or it's going
to
>> be
>> >too late, am a borderline nut case when it comes to animal rights, hate
>> war,
>> >believe that immigration reform should be a humane process, believe in
>> >government funded stem cell research. I'm a bit of a secularist , but
I
>> >think it's totally unrealistic to ignore the fact that this is a country
>> >wherein the vast majority of people profess to practice, or at least
>believe
>> >in some sort of religious philosophy.......the majority being various
>sects
>> >of Christianity. I also agree that some are extremists (not just the
>> >Christians, IMO) but I also keep in mind that the majority has rights
as
>> >well as the minority. It think that given this situation it would be
>better
>> >to allow free expression of *all* religions and *no religions* within
>> >certain contextual guidelines in an effort to foster open dialogue and
>> >understanding between the religions and atheists/agnostics in an effort
>> to
>> >point out their many similarities in thinking/philosophy rather than
>> >segregating this to the respective religious centers. It's not going
to
>> go
>> >away and when segregated away from scrutiny, any idea can become corrupt.
>> I
>> >think if this could happen, the obvious commonalities might tend to
>diffuse
>> >the agruments of the intolerant *armageddonists*. One thing that I firmly
>> >believe is that if a group of people want something to happen bad enough,
>> >they will find a way to make it happen. This is particularly scary when
>> you
>> >look at the *end of the world cults* who base their perception of world
>> >events on the inveitability of their Biblical interpretation of
>Revelations
>> >and of the jihadists who .......well......no point in arguing the right
>> and
>> >wrong of this cause ad nauseum. .
>> >
>> >I also believe that the left in this country has been criminally stupid
>> to
>> >the point of treason with their anti-war antics and that if they are
>brought
>> >to power in the next round of elections, they will think that appeasing
>> >terrorism will keep them safe. The terrorists, OTOH, will exploit the
>> >weakensses in our system that the left has created and/or allowed to
>fester
>> >and will use them against all of us. As I said before, the
>leftist/liberal
>> >agenda is a total anathema to radical Islam. I really don't think you
pay
>> >much attention to the real agenda.
>> >
>> >There is so much more to the entire scenario than 9-11, yet it's
>convenient
>> >for those who want to try to undermine the administration politically,
to
>> >take up the mantra that if it doesn't apply directly to 9-11, then it's
>> not
>> >part of the overall problem. It's short-sighted and that's what scares
me
>> >about the anti-war faction. They seem to think that if we just don't
>> >confront the jihadinazis, that they will leave us alone. I'm all for
>freedom
>> >of speech and free debate, but we've got some hard choices to make right
>> now
>> >and I'm in favor of having a country left in which it is possible to
>debate,
>> >rather than a nazi state. You equate the Bush administration with
>> >facism????.......they are fighting facism amigio. Sometimes it's ugly.
>the
>> >freedoms we enjoy right now are unbelievable compared to what we were
>> >willing to forego in WWII. The enemy we face is much more dangerous and
>> can
>> >bring the world to an end with just a few bombs. Appeasing them will
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| Re: Wavelab and dithering question [message #70257 is a reply to message #70245] |
Wed, 12 July 2006 06:05 |
cujo
Messages: 285
Registered: July 2005
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Senior Member |
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>>good
>>>> in
>>>> >a perfect world, but totally unrealistic in the *real* world. By the
>>time
>>>> he
>>>> >left office we had lost all of our intelligence assets in the places
>>we
>>>> >needed them the most.......so throughout his administration, he spouts
>>>off
>>>> >about IRAQ having WMD's and periodically bombs here and there while
>>>turning
>>>> >a blind eye to the French, Russians and UN parasites who are doing
>>>> >everything possible to ensure that Sadaam can continue to sell them
>oil
>>>> >under the table while rearming his military at the expense of the very
>>>> >Iraqis that the sanctions were meant to protect........but hell man,
>>the
>>>> >polls said that this was a good thing and so rather than take any kind
>>of
>>>> >unpopular position, he went with the polls. Well look where we are
now.
>>>> This
>>>> >is Clinton's doing, not Bush's. Bush just has the balls to do the right
>>>> >thing and doesn'rt live by the polls.
>>>> >
>>>> >Also, he botched the opportunity to have Bin Laden when Sudan offered
>>him
>>>> >up. He did nothing when the Cole was bombed. He withdrew from Somalia
>>>after
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