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rade). That was a few years ago,
> and
>>>>>> people have changed; society has changed. Problems are more widespread
>>>>> at
>>>>>> earlier ages. Is that the government's fault for not throwing more
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>>>>>> money
>>>>> at
>>>>>> the problem? No, it's a failure at the family and individual level,
>>> which
>>>>>> transfers to every job and responsibility taken by any individual in
>>> a given
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| Re: Norton is not going to install. Ideas? Alternatives? [message #92779 is a reply to message #92778] |
Fri, 16 November 2007 11:39  |
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>>>>>>>> Lamont, I worked with an entrepreneur (and his partner company)
>>>>>>>> trying
>>>>> to
>>>>>>>> change the education system from the inside out,
>>>>>>>> starting with inner city schools. Did you know that urban schools
>>> across
>>>>>>>> the US have an average
>>>>>>>> of 80% student population falling below a basic proficiency level?
>>> That's
>>>>>>>> basic reading and math - 80%
>>>>>>>> are below a very basic level - not a higher than realistic level,
> but
>>>>> a
>>>>>>>> lower than realistic level.
>>>>>>>> I don't recall all of the stats, but it blew me away just how bad
> the
>>>>>>>> education system is. Atlanta is in terrible shape.
>>>>>>>> Others are doing poorly as well. These are their stats from schools
>>>>>>>> systems, not political parties.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Who's failure is that? Politicians in Washington? Not unless
>>>>>>>> teachers,
>>>>>>>> community leaders and parents
>>>>>>>> look to Washington for instruction when they get up each morning.
>>> No,
>>>>> it's
>>>>>>>> a public problem that
>>>>>>>> "we the people" are ignoring, and it's hard to not put a bit of
>>>>>>>> responsibility on the students for just
>>>>>>>> not caring enough to try harder. All the money in the world can't
>>> make
>>>>>>>> someone want to learn. To
>>>>>>>> the support of students who haven't had a chance, my friend's program
>>>>> aims
>>>>>>>> to correct learning problems
>>>>>>>> that are holding a lot of kids back - and it works - but he estimates
>>>>> 20
>>>>>>>> years to work through the
>>>>>>>> red tape and establishment that is the current public school system.
>>>>> Doing
>>>>>>>> away with it just might
>>>>>>>> save a few hundred thousand kids. They are already working with
> over
>>>>> 80,000
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| Re: Norton is not going to install. Ideas? Alternatives? [message #92781 is a reply to message #92779] |
Fri, 16 November 2007 12:02 |
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>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> "LaMont" <jjdpro@gmail.com> wrote in message news:47855784$1@linux...
>>>>>>>>> Hey Bill, when Russert pressed RP on his past voting, writen views
>>> on
>>>>>>>>> domestic
>>>>>>>>> issues, they were in line with the good O'l boy politics. When
>>>>>>>>> questioned
>>>>>>>>> about those thngs he tried to deny saying them and voting or even
>>>>>>>>> supporting
>>>>>>>>> those controversial views.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> One comment was: To do away with the Department of Education: Code
>>> word
>>>>>>>>> for:
>>>>>>>>> getting rid of public (Inner city) education..
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> While, I agree with his stance on the current administration and
> the
>>>>>>>>> so-called
>>>>>>>>> war, I disagree with his kind of politics in general, which is old
>>> Texas
>>>>>>>>> style politics..
>>>>>>>>> Bill L <bill@billlorentzen.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> Lamont,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> What are the code words? What did he actually say? I want to know
>>> those
>>>>>>>>>> words.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Where did he say he wants to take the US back to 1940 on race
>>>>>>>>>> relations?
>>>>>>>>>> I did not catch that.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> What I have heard him say is that he does not believe in addressing
>>>>>>>>>> problems of groups, but that it should be of individuals. I agree
>>> with
>>>>>>>>>> that. Any effort to lump people together as group, whether it be
>>> racial,
>>>>>>>>>> religious, political or sexual generates generalities that may
> or
>>> may
>>>>>>>>>> not apply. Only specific truths and viewpoints lead to solutions.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> LaMont wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> Being a student of racial affairs of this nation, you learn the
>>> code
>>>>>>>>>>> word
>>>>>>>>>>> of Racist. I's a disguised language of codes words. When
>>>>>>>>>>> interviews
>>>>>>> by
>>>>>>>>> Russert,
>>>>>>>>>>> he RP started saying those coded words. When Russert pressed on
>>> about
>>>>>>>>> his
>>>>>>>>>>> past voting record and writings, he got angry and then "cracked"..
>>>>>>>>>>>
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| Re: Norton is not going to install. Ideas? Alternatives? [message #92784 is a reply to message #92776] |
Fri, 16 November 2007 11:18 |
Chris Ludwig
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ttitude that it's always
someone else's fault - "sue whoever hurts you or makes your coffee too hot",
"blame whoever you disagree with", and if all else fails, blame the
government, all the time talking about equality, freedom to choose, and
empowering individuality. Pretty contradictory imho.
"And all your types do is look at a brand or group of folks to blame it
on.."
Before you go accusing others of "blaming others", take a look at your own
words my friend.
Let this cool down. We aren't enemies, but it saddens me that too many
discussions seem to head down this
road here. You are right, we will never be of like-mind until you are
willing to see us as more alike than different.
"LaM0nt" <jjdpro@gmail.com> wrote in message news:47865796$1@linux...
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> Let me just state, I totally disagree with you points..All Of them.
>
> That's why we have a divided nation..
>
> "Dedric Terry" <dterry@keyofd.net> wrote:
>>So are you poor or just looking for sympathy at someone else's expense?
>>Sorry to be so blunt, but that's what it sounds like. To paraphrase your
>
>>admonishment,
>>if you aren't poor, then you have no right to fight a poor man's fight.
>
>>You are also still
>>making "your types" generalizations, and I don't appreciate it. You don't
>
>>know what you
>>are talking about and again, no offense, but you are using race as a
>>crutch,
>
>>and I find that offensive.
>>
>>I personally know people who've seen more hard times and challenges than
> you
>>could imagine,
>>and I know for certain they would be insulted by your approach and
>>attitude
>
>>to what one needs to do personally to
>> succeed in this country or any other, regardless of race. I'm not going
> to
>>state their race because imho, their race isn't important - who they are
> and
>>what they've accomplished in life is (no, these aren't millionaires - just
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| Re: Norton is not going to install. Ideas? Alternatives? [message #92788 is a reply to message #92784] |
Fri, 16 November 2007 12:47 |
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iven you
> are
>>from the Detroit area - the home
>>of companies that have for years resisted alternative fuels, more
>>efficient
>
>>and enduring engines, supporting the one
>>industry that has more wealth than our country, and holds the whole world
> by
>>the cohones - oil.
>>
>>Oh.... 3 - you actually don't know what my race is, so aren't you just
>>reading my post, point of view,
>>and judging my race based on your own perception of stereotypes? How much
>
>>more racist could one possibly be?
>>Imho the place to stop racism is by individually ceasing to judge people's
>
>>potential based on skin color, and judging their
>>skin color based on their point of view. The rest will follow. Don't
>>judge
>
>>just because you think it makes your argument
>>stronger. Quite the opposite.
>>
>>Regards,
>>Dedric
>>
>>"LaMont" <jjdpro@gmail.com> wrote in message news:478633ad@linux...
>>>
>>> Good Morning,
>>>
>>> I apologize if my statements come off as racist, they are not..Just a
> fact
>>> from a Black man in America. Our view points are differnt because our
>
>>> cultural
>>> upbringing.
>>>
>>> I disagree with you about giving and so-called gov freebies. First, it's
>>> not the Govs money. It's our. So, we the people have a right to choose
> how
>>> to spend it. Helping people in need is Trait from God. He (God) does not
>>> turn his back on us when we ar e in need, so why are to turn a blind eye
>>> to someone who is?
>>>
>>> Not to mention, Corp bailouts all in name ad cause of "good for the
>>> economy"..Oh
>>> Yeah, what about all those who have been and are facing foreclosure..
>
>>> Should
>>> we not help them?
>>>
>>> You are speweing right-wing libritarian nonsense that keeps us poor
>>> folks
>>> arguing over "scraps".Meanwhile the rich just keep getting richer and
>
>>> richer.
>>> And all your types do is look at a brand or group of folks to blame it
>
>>> on..
>>>
>>> It's all about the 'Distribution Of Wealth". $$$$ Nothing more, nothing
>
>>> less.
>>> Those Billionairs love to keep us scabbling and blaming, pointing
>>> fingers,
>>> while they continue to rape us of what little monies we try to save..
>>>
>>> Unless you a
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| Re: Norton is not going to install. Ideas? Alternatives? [message #92789 is a reply to message #92784] |
Fri, 16 November 2007 12:49 |
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re rich, you have no right to "fight/debate a richman's
>>> fight".
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Dedric Terry <dterry@keyofd.net> wrote:
>>>>Lamont, don't take offense to this, but your post sounds as racist and
>>>>prejudiced as I've heard, and certainly in the context that it is
>>>>directed
>>>>at me. I'm not going to get into this further as it's going nowhere and
>>> I
>>>>don't have any interest in sharing my personal life experiences online
>
>>>>(that
>>>>would have to be over coffee in person - perhaps we'll have a chance
>>>>someday), but trust me when I say, when referring to me as "typical
>>>>white
>>>>man" or "your hero Ron Reagan" you have no idea what you are talking
>>>>about.
>>>>None. You are judging me without knowing me or any facts whatsoever.
>>>>That's
>>>>shortsighted at best, racist at worst - not an accusation, just an
>>>>observation. Again, no personal offense intended at all - just hoping
> you
>>>>can see the reality of how your words and point of view come across.
> It's
>>>>hard to gain sympathy for a problem you may face if you treat others the
>>>>same way.
>>>>
>>>>To end on a less personal note, there is a huge difference between
>>>>helping
>>>>the poor and handing out token freebies as a government program in hopes
>>> of
>>>>changing a society. Monumental difference.
>>>>
>>>>In truth it's our society that should be helping one another at the
>>>>community, neighborhood and personal level. We develop programs to
>>>>expand
>>>>what we want to do personally on a smaller scale, but eventually the
>>>>effect
>>>>is watered down both financially among other costs, and certainly on a
>>>>personal level as there is no personal interaction. I think most of us
>>> are
>>>>guilty of relying on another organization, church, or government to do
> the
>>>>work while we drop a check in the mail or the basket to feel better for
>>> it,
>>>>when the person who needs a hand most might be next door. I know I am
>>>>guilty of that. Just a thought.
>>>>
>>>>Regards,
>>>>Dedric
>>>>
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| Re: Norton is not going to install. Ideas? Alternatives? [message #92790 is a reply to message #92781] |
Fri, 16 November 2007 12:50 |
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>>>>On 1/10/08 1:18 AM, in article 4785c6ad$1@linux, "LaMont"
>>>><jjdpro@gmail.com>
>>>>wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I would agree withg you that some federal spending on education could
>>> and
>>>>> needs to be reworked..
>>>>>
>>>>> But, I totaly disagree with you about "Handouts never work ". People,
>>>>> companys,farmers,this
>>>>> country ) needs bailouts , and have excpeted handouts, bailouts if you
>>> will.
>>>>>
>>>>> If you are a spiritual man, than you lean to rely on the Lord for
>>>>> things
>>>>> that you can't do. Bottom line, everybody form time to time needs a
>
>>>>> helphand,
>>>>> and yes a blessing, gift, handout, bailout..
>>>>>
>>>>> Your kind of thinking is a typical white man's point of view. You take
>>> out
>>>>> the race. This country is not fair to all. Do we agree on that?
>>>>> I know of folks (African Americans)who have tried but have been
>>>>> denied
>>> (even
>>>>> through qualified) oportunities,jobs, houses, loans
>>>>>
>>>>> So, you can traach a man to fish hunt, But, if that man, is told that
>>> he
>>>>> can't hunt nor fish on this land or pond, or he is not qualified, then
>>> what??
>>>>>
>>>>> I do'nt buy this pull you self up lingo in this country. Wait, I do
>
>>>>> belive
>>>>> that if you are white.. And, yes, some of us blacks do make in by some
>>>>> unbelievable
>>>>> obstacales that would have made most quit..
>>>>>
>>>>> Back to education: I would say that our elementary and middle
>>>>> education
>>> is
>>>>> fine...but, it's the high schools, and better the students..These kids
>>> are
>>>>> out of control. Reguardless of race. The teachers are of at
>>>>> cross-roads
>>> with
>>>>> this generation teeangers. This is all behavioral. Hip-Hop has had an
>>> major
>>>>> -downside effect on American Teens..
>>>>>
>>>>> I don't have an answer to that..BTW, I'm a conservative Democrat(Aka
>
>>>>> Blue
>>>>> Dog-Christain). I give Tithes and offering to help and feed/cloth the
>>> poor.
>>>>> Your hero Ron Reagan was on Welfare. Did'nt stay on it, but like many
>>>>> others,needed
>>>>> that helping hand (AKa Hand out)..
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Dedric Terry <dterry@keyofd.net> wrote:
>>>>>> Hi Lamont - so you agree with me that urban school systems, and many
>>> public
>>>>>> schools are not working under "status quo" (e.g. federally funded
>>>>>> systems).
>>>>>>
>>>>>> For reference, my info is from people who have dedicated years to
>>>>>> this
>>>>>> cause, so it isn't idle speculation or personal frustration, and the
>>>>>> solution isn't even in the ballpark of a government program, policy,
>>> or
>>>>>> program. There are simple solutions that could improve the quality
> of
>>>>>> education for each child in this country, but due to the complexity
> and
>>>>>> sluggish nature of our education system (being federally tied), it
> will
>>>>> take
>>>>>> decades to make a dent, if at all. I've seen the program work - it's
>>>>>> phenomenal and could do what n
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| Re: Norton is not going to install. Ideas? Alternatives? [message #92795 is a reply to message #92774] |
Fri, 16 November 2007 13:24 |
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> proposes,
>>> it's
>>>>>> abolishing the Federal Department of Education - leaving schools to
> be
>>>>>> managed at the state and local levels, which the pretty much already
>>> are.
>>>>>> I'm not making a statement either way - just clarifying the facts and
>>> the
>>>>>> realities of what causes problems in society.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> We are fast becoming a bleeding heart, woe-is-me country of victims
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>>>>>> rather
>>>>>> than innovators and problem solvers. Handouts never work - we've all
>>> heard
>>>>>> the Chinese proverb - "Give a man a fish and you feed him for a day.
>>> Teach
>>>>>> a man to fish and you feed him for a lifetime"... it is true. But
> if
>>> he
>>>>>> doesn't want to learn to fish and just wants you to give him one,
>>>>>> he'll
>>>>> be
>>>>>> hungry the next day. If you don't give him one then, he'll start
>>>>>> considering stealing.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> What I personally would discourage is a victim mentality. We are
>>>>>> only
>>> what
>>>>>> we are individually out of choice, unless you believe we are only
>>>>>> what
>>> our
>>>>>> environment allows, and nothing more. Circumstances aren't always
>>>>>> favorable, or even tolerable, but blaming the government carte
>>>>>> blanche
>>> for
>>>>>> the ils of society is in fact part of the pro
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| Re: Norton is not going to install. Ideas? Alternatives? [message #92796 is a reply to message #92788] |
Fri, 16 November 2007 13:26 |
Aaron Allen
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blem, if not a majority
>>> cause.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> łNo great man ever complains of want of opportunity.˛
>>>>>> Ralph Waldo Emerson
>>>>>>
>>>>>> In support of this, 2/3 of today's billionaires were dirt poor when
>
>>>>>> they
>>>>>> started out... it takes more the open doors to become successful -
> it
>>> takes
>>>>>> determination. That's what isn't being taught in schools, at home
> or
>>> in
>>>>> our
>>>>>> society. I know of other billionaires working on revamping the
>>>>>> education
>>>>>> system - not just the Gates Foundation.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The point is, we can change our government until the cows come home,
>>> but
>>>>> if
>>>>>> people who work and live at the local level don't want to change,
>>>>>> then
>>>>>> voting for change is a fool's folly. Making one's own opportunities
>>> is
>>>>> the
>>>>>> most certain way to solve a problem.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> PS: Why do you say "your President"? Have you changed your
>>>>>> citizenship?
>>>>>> :-)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> We don't have to go on with this - probably enough OT threads for
>>>>>> this
>>> week.
>>>>>> Email me offline if you prefer. I think I've about exhausted my time
>>>>>> allocation for OT this month. ;-))
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>> Dedric
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 1/9/08 11:15 PM, in article 4785a9ef$1@linux, "LaMont"
>>>>>> <jjdpro@gmail.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Cont: I'm a big supporter of the Bill and Melinda Gates
>>>>>>> (re-inventing
>>>>> ) the
>>>>>>> US educational system. It's horrible.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> My wie and I are agonising over what school to send our baby (2 year
>>> )
>>>>> old
>>>>>>> when shes turns five(school age). These suburban schools a horrible.
>>> The
>>>>>>> kids lack manners. Are having sex (in school). Cursing out the
>>>>>>> teachers.
>>>>>>> Girls dress like strippers. Horrible. When we invested into this
>>>>>>> community,
>>>>>>> we did not expect the local school system to be this bad.
>>>>>>> ANd, we're told the private schools are not that much better.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> BUT, do i want to kill public education. For it's ills, there still
>>> students
>>>>>>> in this nation who are "learning". Can it improve, yes..
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Speaking of the goverment throwing
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| Re: Norton is not going to install. Ideas? Alternatives? [message #92803 is a reply to message #92796] |
Fri, 16 November 2007 16:09 |
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>>>>>>>>>>>> a84ca
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>>>>>>>>>>>> This is not good...
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>I have no doubt whatsover that you are right Jamie. And Lamont, hopefully
I'll have the pleasure of meeting you in person
someday - perhaps a future group trip/meet at a NAMM show or AES. And I'll
ditto that invite for Friday, even though I know it's probably not
realistic, it's still just as sincere.
Regards,
Dedric
"Jamie K" <Meta@Dimensional.com> wrote in message news:47865d69@linux...
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> I'll bet that if we got you two (LaMont and Dedric) in a room together,
> you would quickly find some common ground. Sometimes a text forum isn't
> the best form of communication...
>
> Hey LaMont, on the off chance you could come on out to Colorado this
> Friday, we're having a little PARIS get-together that Deej inspired (but
> Deej can't come after all - we'll miss you Deej!).
>
> Cheers,
> -Jamie
> www.JamieKrutz.com
>
>
>
> LaM0nt wrote:
>> Let me just state, I totally disagree with you points..All Of them.
>>
>> That's why we have a divided nation..
>>
>> "Dedric Terry" <dterry@keyofd.net> wrote:
>>> So are you poor or just looking for sympathy at someone else's expense?
>>> Sorry to be so blunt, but that's what it sounds like. To paraphrase
>>> your
>>
>>> admonishment,
>>> if you aren't poor, then you have no right to fight a poor man's fight.
>>
>>> You are also still
>>> making "your types" generalizations, and I don't appreciate it. You
>>> don't
>>
>>> know what you
>>> are talking about and again, no offense, but you are using race as a
>>> crutch,
>>
>>> and I find that offensive.
>>>
>>> I personally know people who've seen more hard times and challenges than
>> you
>>> could imagine,
>>> and I know for certain they would be insulted by your approach and
>>> attitude
>>
>>> to what one needs to do personally to
>>> succeed in this country or any other, regardless of race. I'm not going
>> to
>>> state their race because imho, their race isn't important - who they are
>> and
>>> what they've accomplished in life is (no, these aren't millionaires -
>>> just
>>
>>> people who've refused
>>> to use race as an excuse).
>>>
>>> 1 - we were talking about education, not welfare, health care or feeding
>> the
>>> poor. Handouts don't make people want to become more educated, and lack
>> of
>>> handouts don't prevent people from going to the public library, doing
>>> their
>>
>>> homework, or listening in class. Granted not all schools have great
>>> teachers, but all schools have students that don't try. Sorry, but you
>>
>>> won't get any sympathy by claiming that the "pull yourself up" mentality
>> is
>>> wrong and a "white man's" point of view. See my previous paragraph for
>> the
>>> reasons why.
>>>
>>> 2 - you said: "But, I totaly disagree with you about "Handouts never
>>> work
>>
>>> ". People, companys,farmers,this
>>> country needs bailouts , and have excpeted handouts, bailouts if you
>>
>>> will."
>>>
>>> Therein lies the problem - "have expected handouts". Any program that
>>> gives
>>
>>> handouts on a regular basis
>>> with no effective meth
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| Re: Norton is not going to install. Ideas? Alternatives? [message #92804 is a reply to message #92789] |
Fri, 16 November 2007 15:10 |
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od of turning that handout into a basis for an
>>> individual to work on their own just creates a dependancy
>>> rather than true effective change. Like I said, helping each other is
>>> one
>>
>>> of the best things we can do
>>> with our time and resources, but creating dependancy on handouts is
>>> dangerous. We all need help from time to
>>> time, and as a society I agree - the balance of wealth is dangerously
>>> skewed
>>
>>> in many areas: artist, entertainers, and sports stars
>>> are at the top of my list, yet that's one area most people are happy to
>>
>>> spend money on without a second thought of that imbalance, regardless of
>>
>>> their economic capabilities. No need to talk about corporate greed -
>>> we're
>>
>>> on the same
>>> page there, but I think your view that "Those Billionairs love to keep
>>> us
>>
>>> scabbling and blaming, pointing fingers,
>>> while they continue to rape us of what little monies we try to save.."
>> is
>>> about is victim minded as I've heard.
>>> Really Lamont, if you feel that oppressed by corporate America, just buy
>>
>>> Japanese and Chinese. ;-) It's easier
>>> than buying American. ;-)) Hope you see the sad humor in that given you
>> are
>>>from the Detroit area - the home
>>> of companies that have for years resisted alternative fuels, more
>>> efficient
>>
>>> and enduring engines, supporting the one
>>> industry that has more wealth than our country, and holds the whole
>>> world
>> by
>>> the cohones - oil.
>>>
>>> Oh.... 3 - you actually don't know what my race is, so aren't you just
>>> reading my post, point of view,
>>> and judging my race based on your own perception of stereotypes? How
>>> much
>>
>>> more racist could one possibly be?
>>> Imho the place to stop racism is by individually ceasing to judge
>>> people's
>>
>>> potential based on skin color, and judging their
>>> skin color based on their point of view. The rest will follow. Don't
>>> judge
>>
>>> just because you think it makes your argument
>>> stronger. Quite the opposite.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Dedric
>>>
>>> "LaMont" <jjdpro@gmail.com> wrote in message news:478633ad@linux...
>>>> Good Morning,
>>>>
>>>> I apologize if my statements come off as racist, they are not..Just a
>> fact
>>>> from a Black man in America. Our view points are differnt because our
>>
>>>> cultural
>>>> upbringing.
>>>>
>>>> I disagree with you about giving and so-called gov freebies. First,
>>>>
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| Re: Norton is not going to install. Ideas? Alternatives? [message #92809 is a reply to message #92788] |
Fri, 16 November 2007 17:42 |
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my info is from people who have dedicated years to
>>>>>>> this
>>>>>>> cause, so it isn't idle speculation or personal frustration, and the
>>>>>>> solution isn't even in the ballpark of a government program, policy,
>>>> or
>>>>>>> program. There are simple solutions that could improve the quality
>> of
>>>>>>> education for each child in this country, but due to the complexity
>> and
>>>>>>> sluggish nature of our education system (being federally tied), it
>> will
>>>>>> take
>>>>>>> decades to make a dent, if at all. I've seen the program work -
>>>>>>> it's
>>>>>>> phenomenal and could do what no amount of federal funding could, and
>>>> for
>>>>>>> pennies per child, if not free. That's where personal/private
>>>>>>> innovation
>>>>>> is
>>>>>>> drastically more effective than waiting for a government to solve a
>>
>>>>>>> problem.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> For additional reference, my son goes to an alternative public
>>>>>>> school
>>>> (IB
>>>>>>> program) and it is excellent. Granted, at the elementary level,
>>>>>>> problems
>>>>>>> aren't as bad as higher grades (though there are exceptions). I
>>>>>>> attended
>>>>>>> schools in all parts of our home town (as a product of bussing)
>>>>>>> suburban
>>>>>> and
>>>>>>> urban - some were good, some were just okay (5 different ones due to
>>>> our
>>>>>> 2
>>>>>>> year system, from first to 12th grade). That was a few years ago,
>> and
>>>>>>> people have changed; society has changed. Problems are more
>>>>>>> widespread
>>>>>> at
>>>>>>> earlier ages. Is that the government's fault for not throwing more
>>
>>>>>>> money
>>>>>> at
>>>>>>> the problem? No, it's a failure at the family and individual level,
>>>> which
>>>>>>> transfers to every job and responsibility taken by any individual in
>>>> a given
>>>>>>> community or society. No one from federal or local governments, or
>>
>>>>>>> local
>>>>>>> school systems is encouraging young teenagers to become pregnant,
>>>>>>> shoot
>>>>>> one
>>>>>>> another, or take drugs. That happens as a product of society and
>>>>>>> becomes
>>>>>> a
>>>>>>> part of every aspect of that society. We can make better
>>>>>>> opportunities
>>>>>> and
>>>>>>> better environments with enough money, but it only lasts so long.
>>>>>>> Schools
>>>>>>> that are now problematic, were probably great 20 years ago. Might
>> be
>>>>>>> interesting to check the test scores and pass/fail rates for the
>>>>>>> history
>>>>>> of
>>>>>>> the school in your neig
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Sat, 17 November 2007 04:19 |
Erling
Messages: 156
Registered: October 2008
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>>>>>>>>>>>> He's a Texan Reacist. Period. Yeah, he's saying the right
>>>>>>>>>>>> things
>>>> about
>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>> Iraq situation, but on the domestic front, this dude whats to
>> take
>>>>>>>>>>>> America
>>>>>>>>>>>> back into the 1940-50s on race relations. That's not good.
>>>>>>>>>>>> Therefore,
>>>>>>>>>> he
>>>>>>>>>>>> is a Kook..A hack, a Third rate Racist Texas Politicition..
>>>>>>>>>>>> "DC" <dc@spammersinhell.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.tnr.com/politics/story.html?id=e2f15397-a3c7-4720 -ac15-4532a
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 7d
>>>>>>>>>>>>> a84ca
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> This is not good...
>>BFD2 loaded it a couple days ago. so far I give it 2 thumbs up.you can
check out the specs yourselves but the things that strike me first are the
quality of the samples and the articulations. 96 levels . I don't think I
can play at 96 levels .not if I was trying anyway.
32 mono channels ,2 mic positions for snare(top/bot) ditto for
kick(in/out).controlled bleed from overheads,toms,cymbals..
over 5000 patterns built in .
perfect snare rolls and many other articulations.
this makes it really easy .
I have been driving it from groove agent midi out also for even more
variations.
If you cant get the "real drummer" vibe, recorded in a top notch facility
,you may be retarded.
It was definitely worth the $$.The truth is found, not in rhetoric, but in relationship.
Too many black people have no white friends, and too many white
people have no black friends.
Too many lefties have no conservative friends, and of course
Too many conservatives have no liberal friends...
Relationships will open your eyes.
Personally, I think equality for all is a basic conservative
position. There are millions of black people who feel this
way. They will be an important force in this country in
the next decade.
I think the right needs to re-embrace
both civil rights and black people to be become what it
should be.
DCWell put, Don. Part of the problem is that demonization is stock in
trade with some kinds of political talk programming.
Next time you hear a self-appointed political pundit use a derisive term
for someone he or she merely disagrees with, turn off the radio/TV/web
site and walk away.
Demonization is only good for dividing us, and why should we fall for
that? Are we so insecure with out beliefs that we must disrespect others
merely for having a different opinion?
And anyway, if the pundits in question had actual factual support for
whatever points of view they were flogging, derisive terms would be
totally unnecessary.
We're in for a long election season, stand by with the off buttons. That
goes for negative political commercials, too.
Cheers,
-Jamie
www.JamieKrutz.com
DC wrote:
> The truth is found, not in rhetoric, but in relationship.
>
> Too many black people have no white friends, and too many white
> people have no black friends.
>
> Too many lefties have no conserv
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