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PTHD with a dangerous 2Bus/new client/computer/Nuendo, etc. [message #60999]

Tue, 06 December 2005 10:06

Deej [1]

Messages: 2149
Registered: January 2006

Senior Member

t;
>>>>>>>I was working on a few projects and found that I sonically =
liked the
>>>>>>
>>>>>>levels
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>of one of the projects. It is very frustrating going back =
through
>>>
>>>all
>>>
>>>>>the
>>>>>
>>>>>>>other songs in the other projects to bring down each channel =
fader
>>>>>>
>>>>>>individually.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> My question is... is there a way to control all active (active =
meaning
>>>>>>
>>>>>>there
>>>>>>

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Re: PTHD with a dangerous 2Bus/new client/computer/Nuendo, etc. [message #61002 is a reply to message #60999]

Tue, 06 December 2005 11:29

Dimitrios

Messages: 1056
Registered: August 2005

Senior Member

mailto:chris@nospamapplemanstudio.com" target="_blank">chris@nospamapplemanstudio.com">chris@nospamapplemanstudio=
..com</A>>=20
wrote in message <A=20
=
href=3D"news:43b9ffaa$1@linux">news:43b9ffaa$1@linux</A>...</DIV><BR><BR>=
Thanks=20
EK, I know about all of that but I was talking about when you =
select<BR>a=20
whole tracks fader automation and want to put it up say .2 db =
sometimes<BR>it=20
will only go up .5 or so. The shift drag thinkg does not seem to =
work<BR>for=20
me at least.<BR><BR><BR>EK Sound <<A=20
=
href=3D"mailto:spamnot.info@eksoundNO.com">spamnot.info@eksoundNO.com</A>=
>=20
wrote:<BR>>Hey Cujo<BR>><BR>>You *can* "shift" to get smaller =
values=20
when moving the automation <BR>>points. Also, if you click on the =
track=20
number in the editor, all of <BR>>that tracks auto points turn red =
allowing=20
you to move them all at <BR>>once.  Further, you can "shift =
select"=20
addit

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Re: PTHD with a dangerous 2Bus/new client/computer/Nuendo, etc. [message #61005 is a reply to message #60999]

Tue, 06 December 2005 10:40

EK Sound

Messages: 939
Registered: June 2005

Senior Member

1@linux">news:43b9652e$1@linux</A>...<BR>>>&g=
t;><BR>>>>>>Thanks=20
Edna... I'll try that.  I seen the normalize button, but=20
was<BR>unsure<BR>>>>>>how it operated.  In fact, I =
wished=20
I known this option a few days ago...<BR>>>>>>would =
have saved=20
me lots of time.  I was trying to remix/remaster=20
=
some<BR>>>>><BR>>>>>older <BR>>>>><BR>=
>>>>>projects=20
and songs.. and it was very time consuming to=20
individually<BR>adjust<BR>>>>>>each channel. Thanks=20
again... =20
=
:)<BR>>>>>><BR>&g

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Re: PTHD with a dangerous 2Bus/new client/computer/Nuendo, etc. [message #61010 is a reply to message #61005]

Tue, 06 December 2005 12:43

Chris Wargo
Messages: 45
Registered: November 2005

Member

be obsolete. Oh! it IS obsolete... lol. So, what do you use
>>>
>>>Paris
>>>
>>>
>>>>for? You got a band, or just play with it, like me? I don't go out much
>>>>(not too many places to go in southern MD.. lol.) So this is my hobby
>
> and
>
>>>>my little get-away. It's been fun. I started out with a Roland system.
>>>>But I knew I had to move to a DAW since it wasn't easy to edit single
>
> files/channels
>
>>>>on the Roland. Ok.. I bored ya enough... Thanks again and I'll try the
>>>
>>>normalize
>>>
>>>
>>>>funtion... ~ Ed
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>"Edna" <edna@texomaonline.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>You bet! Actually, you don't have to do it that way. You could just
>>>>>normalize down/up from the highest fader value in the mix.
>>>>>
>>>>>I haven't gotten in to the automation or the automation editor yet either,
>>>>>except to just make sure the automation worked after my install of Paris.
>>>>>But its on my list.
>>>>>Edna
>>>>>
>>>>>"Ed" <askme@email.com> wrote in message news:43b9652e$

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Re: PTHD with a dangerous 2Bus/new client/computer/Nuendo, etc. [message #61028 is a reply to message #60999]

Tue, 06 December 2005 18:54

Bill Lorentzen

Messages: 140
Registered: June 2005

Senior Member

s a great feature, but I too stay away from it cause everytime
> I sit through mixing.. I end up changing things... and I haven't figured
> out how to "edit" the automation either. Funny thing.. I been using my Paris
> since 2001 and I just use it for basic tracking/mixing. I never got into
> all the features... but it's on my list too.. lol. By the time I learn,
> Paris will be obsolete. Oh! it IS obsolete... lol. So, what do you use Paris
> for? You got a band, or just play with it, like me? I don't go out much
> (not too many places to go in southern MD.. lol.) So this is my hobby and
> my little get-away. It's been fun. I started out with a Roland system.
> But I knew I had to move to a DAW since it wasn't easy to edit single files/channels
> on the Roland. Ok.. I bored ya enough... Thanks again and I'll try the normalize
> funtion... ~ Ed
>
>
> "Edna" <edna@texomaonline.com> wrote:
>
>>You bet! Actually, you don't have to do it that way. You could just
>>normalize down/up from the highest fader value in the mix.
>>
>>I haven't gotten in to the automation or the automation editor yet either,
>>except to just make sure the automation worked after my install of Paris.
>>But its on my list.

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Re: PTHD with a dangerous 2Bus/new client/computer/Nuendo, etc. [message #61032 is a reply to message #60999]

Tue, 06 December 2005 19:12

Bill Lorentzen

Messages: 140
Registered: June 2005

Senior Member

ime consuming to individually
>>
>>>>>>adjust
>>>>>>each channel. Thanks again... :)
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>"Edna" <edna@texomaonline.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Yes, you can use the normalize function to do this - bring them up
>>
>>or
>>
>>>>>down.
>>>>>
>>>>>>>For example say you want to lower them all by 3db. On an unused
>>>>>>>channel
>>>>>>>move its fader to 10 and then normalize with highest at 7. This
>>>>>>>brings
>>>>>>>down all faders by 3. (To bring them back up to where they were,
>>>>>
>>>>>normalize
>>>>>
>>>>>>>to 10.)
>>>>>>>Edna
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>"Ed" <askme@email.com> wrote in message news:43b952d0$1@

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Re: PTHD with a dangerous 2Bus/new client/computer/Nuendo, etc. [message #61039 is a reply to message #61032]

Tue, 06 December 2005 19:46

Deej [1]

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Registered: January 2006

Senior Member

sy question for you Paris power
>users.
>> >> I
>> >> >> >mainly
>> >> >> >> use the mouse for controlling everything on the mixer(s) and
>such.
>> >> >> >Anyway,
>> >> >> >> I was working on a few projects and found that I sonically liked
>> the
>> >> >> >levels
>> >> >> >> of one of the projects. It is very frustrating going back
>through
>> >> all
>> >> >> the
>> >> >> >> other songs in the other projects to bring down each channel
>fader
>> >> >> >individually.
>> >> >> >> My question is... is there a way to control all active (active
>> >meaning
>> >> >> >there
>> >> >> >> is something on the channel) channel faders at the same time?
>> >Another
>> >> >> >words,
>> >> >> >> I have all the channel faders set properly, but I want to bring
>> them
>> >> >all
>> >> >> >> down a few db's. Is there a way to bring them all down at the
>same
>> >> >time
>> >> >> >> without doing them individually?
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> Lastly, I don't have any automation set, so that won't be
>effected
>> >> by
>> >> >> >this.
>> >> >> >> In fact, I try to stay away from automation be

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Re: PTHD with a dangerous 2Bus/new client/computer/Nuendo, etc. [message #61052 is a reply to message #60999]

Wed, 07 December 2005 00:45

LaMont
Messages: 828
Registered: October 2005

Senior Member

.</DIV>Editing=20
automation is easy.  It's also in the manual.  Basically you =

<BR>turn on the display data buttons for either volume, pan or mute =
and then=20
<BR>turn on the edit data button for the same.  Then you pick the =
tool at=20
<BR>the top to select, move, draw lines, freeform draw, erase.  =
You can=20
use <BR>interpolate or simplify to add more values or reduce the =
number of=20
<BR>values easily.  Reply if this doesn't make sense.  10 =
minutes in=20
the <BR>manual and you'll have it.  I'll repost my automation =
notes soon=20
for <BR>recording automation cuz the ones on my site are wrong at the =
last=20
step.<BR><BR>John<BR><BR>Ed wrote:<BR>> The automation is a great =
feature,=20
but I too stay away from it cause everytime<BR>> I sit through =
mixing.. I=20
end up changing things... and I haven't figured<BR>> out how to =
"edit" the=20
automation either.  Funny thing.. I been using my Paris<BR>> =
since=20
2001 and I just use it for basic tracking/mixing.  I never got=20
into<BR>> all the features... but it's on my list too.. lol.  =
By the=20
time I learn,<BR>> Paris will be obsolete. Oh! it IS obsolete... =
lol. =20

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Re: PTHD with a dangerous 2Bus/new client/computer/Nuendo, etc. [message #61053 is a reply to message #60999]

Wed, 07 December 2005 01:20

Kim
Messages: 1246
Registered: October 2005

Senior Member

/> So, what do you use Paris<BR>> for?  You got a band, or just =
play with=20
it, like me?  I don't go out much<BR>> (not too many places to =
go in=20
southern MD.. lol.)  So this is my hobby and<BR>> my little=20
get-away.  It's been fun.  I started out with a Roland=20
system.<BR>>  But I knew I had to move to a DAW since it =
wasn't easy=20
to edit single files/channels<BR>> on the Roland.  Ok.. I =
bored ya=20
enough... Thanks again and I'll try the normalize<BR>> =
funtion...  ~=20
Ed<BR>> <BR>> <BR>> "Edna" <<A=20
href=3D"mailto:edna@texomaonline.com">edna@texomaonline.com</A>>=20
wrote:<BR>> <BR>>>You bet!  Actually, you don't have to =
do it=20
that way.  You could just<BR>>>normalize down/up from the =
highest=20
fader value in the mix.<BR>>><BR>>>I haven't gotten in to =
the=20
automation or the automation editor yet either,<BR>>>except to =
just make=20
sure the automation worked after my install of Paris.<BR>>>But =
its on my=20
list.<BR>>>Edna<BR>>><BR>>> "Ed" <<A=20
href=3D"mailto:askme@email.com">askme@email.com</A>> wrote in =
message <A=20
=
href=3D"news:43b9652e$1@linux">news:43b9652e$

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Re: PTHD with a dangerous 2Bus/new client/computer/Nuendo, etc. [message #61055 is a reply to message #61053]

Wed, 07 December 2005 08:09

Chris Wargo
Messages: 45
Registered: November 2005

Member

ojects =
and=20
songs.. and it was very time consuming to individually=20
adjust<BR>>>>each channel. Thanks again... =20
:)<BR>>>><BR>>>> <BR>>>>"Edna" <<A=20
href=3D"mailto:edna@texomaonline.com">edna@texomaonline.com</A>>=20
wrote:<BR>>>><BR>>>>>Yes, you can use the =
normalize=20
function to do this - bring them up=20
or<BR>>><BR>>>down.<BR>>> <BR>>>>>For =
example say=20
you want to lower them all by 3db.  On an unused=20
channel<BR>>>>>move its fader to 10 and then normalize =
with=20
highest at  7.  This brings<BR>>>>>down all =
faders by=20
3.  (To bring them back up to where they=20
=
were,<BR>>><BR>>>normalize<BR >>><BR>>>>>to =

=
10.)<BR>>>>>Edna<BR>>>>> <BR>>>>>"Ed" =

<<A href=3D"mailto:askme@email.com">askme@email.com</A>> wrote =
in message=20
<A=20
=
href=3D"news:43b952d0$1@linux">news:43b952d0$1@linux</A>...<BR>>>&g=
t;><BR>>>>>>Hi=20
All. Perhaps a quick n' easy question for you Paris power =
users.<BR>>=20
<BR>>  I<BR>>=20
=
<BR>>>>>mainly<BR>>>>> <BR>>>>>>use=
the=20
mouse for controlling everything on the mixer(s) and=20
=
such.<BR>>>>><BR>>>>>Anyway, <BR>>>>><=
BR>>>>>>I=20
was working on a few projects and found that I sonically liked=20
=
the<BR>>>>><BR>>>>>levels <BR>>>>><BR>=
>>>>>of=20
one of the projects.  It is very frustrating going back =
through<BR>>=20
<BR>> all<BR>>=20
<BR>>>>the<BR>>>> <BR>>>>>>other songs =
in the=20
other projects to bring down each channel=20
=
fader<BR>>>>><BR>>>>>individually. <BR>>>&gt=
;><BR>>>>>>=20
My question is... is there a way to control all active (active=20
=
meaning<BR>>>>><BR>>>>>there <BR>>>>><=
BR>>>>>>is=20
something on the channel) channel faders at the same time? =20
=
Another<BR>>>>><BR>>>>>words, <BR>>>>>=
<BR>>>>>>I=20
have all the channel faders set properly, but I want to bring=20
=
them<BR>>><BR>>>all<BR>>> <BR>>>>>>down =
a few=20
db's.  Is there a way to bring them all down at the=20

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Re: PTHD with a dangerous 2Bus/new client/computer/Nuendo, etc. [message #61061 is a reply to message #61052]

Wed, 07 December 2005 09:54

Tony Benson

Messages: 453
Registered: June 2006

Senior Member

to disagree with assessments
>>>>on Pro Tools sound quality.
>>>>
>>>>First, I mix with Pro Tools HD at our Church's studio for major release
>>
>> Gospel
>>
>>>>Cds. Pro Tools HD sounds wonderful with low and high track counts and
>>
>> ITB
>>
>>>>(in the Box) or summed to the SSL,
>>>>
>>>>At my home studio, I have PT LE & Nuendo and while I love Nuendo's elequent
>>>>editing and nice soft sound, it's 32 bit floating mixer in a major pain
>>
>> in
>>
>>>>!@# to mix aggresive Rock, R &B, Hip hop with. Onthe other hand, those
>>
>> same
>>
>>>>mixes done in PT LE, have that sparkle and width. In Nuendo, after 30
>>
>> tracks,
>>
>>>>things start's getting "smearded" and tracks levels tends to get lost
>>
>> or
>>
>>>>they don't sit right.
>>>>
>>>>However, in PT Le, (same songs, tracks are not smeared, levels stay intacked,
>>>>and the overall mix sounds very professional, just like mixes in Paris..
>>>>
>>>>Some local Engineer friends in the area( Motown), have been in discussions
>>>>about the state of current DAWs and what's working and what's not. Opinions
>>>>varied,but the one constant opinion that was stated was how dificult
it
>>
>> was
>>
>>>>to mix in Cubase and Nuendo on mixes over 30 tracks. No matter what i/o
>>
>> converters(Apogee,Lucid,Motu,
>>
>>>>RME) mixing Rock , R&B, Hip-Hop is a dificult chore in SX/Nuendo..Where
>>>>as mixing in Paris and Pro Tools is not..
>>>>Hey,Just one Engineer's opinon.
>>>>
>>>>P.S
>>>>Jsut for geekdum sakes, the new Sonar 5 uses a newly coded 64 to 32

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Re: PTHD with a dangerous 2Bus/new client/computer/Nuendo, etc. [message #61068 is a reply to message #61061]

Wed, 07 December 2005 11:55

Chris Wargo
Messages: 45
Registered: November 2005

Member

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=
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>>>>>Hi=20
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power<BR>>    =20
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Re: PTHD with a dangerous 2Bus/new client/computer/Nuendo, etc. [message #61069 is a reply to message #61068]

Wed, 07 December 2005 10:56

Tony Benson

Messages: 453
Registered: June 2006

Senior Member

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Re: PTHD with a dangerous 2Bus/new client/computer/Nuendo, etc. [message #61071 is a reply to message #61069]

Wed, 07 December 2005 12:10

Chris Wargo
Messages: 45
Registered: November 2005

Member

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Re: PTHD with a dangerous 2Bus/new client/computer/Nuendo, etc. [message #61072 is a reply to message #61071]

Wed, 07 December 2005 11:29

Tony Benson

Messages: 453
Registered: June 2006

Senior Member

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thanks in advance... and Happy New Year=20
(2006)!<BR> >     =2 0
>>>><BR> >     =2 0
>>>><BR> >   &nbs

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