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| Re: Just met a sorta' smart guy....... [message #72590 is a reply to message #72587] |
Mon, 18 September 2006 01:54   |
Tom Bruhl
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le IBM machines in the future, but I think it depends on
>>IBM, and price/proformance.
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>>As long as MS plays nice with Apple I don't think you will see OSX on PC
>>hardware, but again anything is possible. Apple makes too much money on
>>hardware and they would lose hardware sales if they did this. Not a smart
>>business plan for Apple. There would be too much cost to support all of
>>the PC hardware out there. If they sold an OS version with out support
>they
>>might be able to make some money, but it would still hurt hardware sales.
>> If they ever get their hard ware closer to the end user cost of PC hardware,
>>it might be more possible. I don't think that will happen any time soon,
>>besides they will never get anywhere near the cost to build your own PC.
>> Besides, you can already hack the OSX and run it on a PC. I think it
>>would just hurt Apple.
>>
>>What I'd like to see, is lower hardware prices from Apple, and the ability
>>to run any Windows PC software on Mac OSX. That would be a lot better
solution.
>> Mac users really don't want the Windows viruses on our Macs! Apple is
>a
>>hardware and software company, I think they would like you to buy both
from
>>them.
>>
>>Although, if the gloves ever come off, and the average guy finds out the
>>truth that Mac OSX is less expensive and easier to deal with and does the
>>same things, Microsoft will have some serious competition on the computing
>>home front.
>>
>>Mac OSX on a PC would be a bad thing for Microsoft, and MS would definitely
>>try to stop it. Apple is doing fine, and I think that nobody really wants
>>to poison the well they all drink from.
>>
>>That's my take on it.
>>
>>Any thing is possible, only time will tell.
>>
>>James
>>
>>
>>"LaMont" <jjdpro@ameritech.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>Hey Jamie,
>>>
>>>I dont know about the "Ain't going to happen. Let's take a look.
>>>They dump the IMB-Motorola Processor(Thank God) for some real power(Intel's)..
>>>That one event opened up "Pandora's Box) into Microsoft all over again
>:)
>>>
>>>Thus, it was inevitable that running windows on a Mac would soon follow
>>and
>>>it happened (fast) I might add..BootCamp and other hacked versions..
>>>
>>>Being that there are more windows users in the world, how many Ipods would
>>>you say were Windows version of IPods versus Mac Ipods?? Itunes is the
>prefered
>>>media player on both Macs and Window PCs.
>>>I really do think it's only a matter of time before we a cross-platform
>>of
>>>Logic.
>>>
>>>Question: James M or Jamie.. The big rumor is that Apple will release
a
>>vrsion
>>>of OS-x for any PC?? Is this true. If it is, wonderful.. Also, that DEll
>>>and Hp are signed on to become OEM vendors.Offering a user to either have
>>>Windows or OS-x as their prefered OS.???
>>>
>>>Jamie K <Meta@Dimensional.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> > Just be glad Gibson didn't buy Logic!!!
>>>>
>>>>Oh great, now I'm going to have nightmares! ;^)
>>>>
>>>>It will be interesting to see what refinements end up in future versions
>>>
>>>>of Logic. I'm personally glad it's already come so far, and is now not
>>
>>>>only featu
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| Re: Just met a sorta' smart guy....... [message #72593 is a reply to message #72590] |
Mon, 18 September 2006 04:04 |
John [1]
Messages: 2229
Registered: September 2005
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95 was better
>than a Mac, that was an even bigger lie. Unfortunately the average guy
believed
>the lies.
>
>People talked about how Macs would crash and Windows didn't. That was another
>lie, Windows 95 did crash. Macs crashed because you need to manually allocate
>memory to each program, people would for get to do this and then blame the
>Mac. That is like not putting gas in your car, and then say that the car
>was defective when it stopped running. That was the draw back of Mac OS
>back then, and Win 95 had that one advantage because of the dynamically
allocated
>memory.
>
>Mac OS was sleeker, more elegant, easier to use back in the 90s and still
>is to day. That's why Microsoft keeps trying to copy Apple.
>
>May be it's all just a right brain, left brain thing. Or may be it's that
>Microsoft creates software that is inferior, has bugs, has lots of problems,
>and it keeps you IT guys working, and that's why you love MS and hate Apple.
>
>James
>
>
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>>"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>I think it's a rumor. I do think, IF the day comes that Microsoft drops
>>MS
>>>Office for the Mac it will happen but not right away. My bet is Apple
>has
>>>a version of OSX and some kind of open Office project that will run on
>a
>>>PC in their labs that Microsoft is well a where of. It's a cold war approach.
>>> It keeps everybody playing nice. (Where is Claris/Apple works?)
>>>
>>>Apple didn't jump to Intel on a whim, or over night, it was a five year
>>process.
>>> It was calculated, it was planned. It was a contingency plan, Apple
got
>>>screwed around by Motorola for years. I sold StarMax systems back in
the
>>>day, and I spoke to the top brass about OEMing the left over MOBOs. They
>>>told me that they were going to get even with Apple, they were mad as
hell
>>>at Apple. They took a 90 million dollar charge when Apple dropped the
>cloning
>>>thing. For years, Motorola got around to Apples needs when Motorola got
>>>around to Apples needs.
>>>
>>> IBM started to treat Apple the same way in recent years. I think IBM
>found
>>>out about Apple's work with Intel. IBM opened their Fishkill Plant with
>>>big fanfare. There were a lot of press releases about the IBM/Apple G5,
>>>and how IBM built a new state of the art plant for this processor. Steve
>>>Jobs announced that with in a year they would be a 3GHZ with the G5, and
>>>stated that IBM said so. It never happened. Apple had looked at IBM's
>>road
>>>map, the G5 spec-ed out good. The problems that were supposed to be fixed
>>>in the second generation did not happen. Heat and power consumption were
>>>big issues, that's why G5's never made it in to a lap top. IBM could
not
>>>deliver a faster, cooler, less power hungry processor. Apple had to do
>>something,
>>>or get left in the dust. I think the relationship also broke down. after
>>>all the IBM fanfare, they started to say publicly that Apple was only
a
>>small
>>>part of their business and was not important to them.
>>>
>>>From what Steve Jobs said, Apple looked at Intel's road map as far as
processor
>>>performance and it was clear to him that it was the best choice. He sees
>>>things that you and I don't get to see. Apples top hardware designer
retired
>>>at that time, so having Intel help Apple with MOBO design was a win, win
>&
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| Re: Just met a sorta' smart guy....... [message #72625 is a reply to message #72595] |
Mon, 18 September 2006 13:46 |
Deej [1]
Messages: 2149
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blink, wheels spin, but no POST screen, no Windoze, nada...
Power down, power up again, and up she wakes, at least so far...
It's an Ancient Abit mobo from the Flintstone days (slate based, I
think, sturdy but inflexible)...
Anyway -- ain't there some kind of battery lurking on that board
somewhere? Could that thing have bonked (what a surprise, right?)?
Thing is -- this box just keeps on ticking, and mostly all I've done
with this over the last five years is record and mix and record and
mix etc. Would hate to junk it over some minor issue like what day
it is...
-- wisdom welcome as always -- thanks -- Chas.HI Chas,
Things that I would think of first off as possibly being the problem.
1.BIOS battery is dieing or dead.
2. Dire power supply
3. dieing motherboard
the top 2 will be easy to deal with and you would have to do them first
before you know if #3 is whats happening.
Chris
Chas. Duncan wrote:
>People -- opinions, please...
>
>My antique and much loved Athlon 800, 98 SE Paris box, is maybe
>getting a little o-l-d...
>
>For instance: system clock has lost its mind... Thinks it's still
>September something, and whatever the hell time... If I set it to
>present day-and-time it will be half a week off
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| Re: Just met a sorta' smart guy....... [message #72629 is a reply to message #72625] |
Mon, 18 September 2006 15:53 |
Don Nafe
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>>>> version
>>>>>>>>>> again, but it doesn't much matter to Mac users and
>>>>>>>>>> their are millions
>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>>> us. I think the biggest problem with Logic is the
>>>>>>>>>> $999.00 price,
>>>> if
>>>>>> it
>>>>>>>> were
>>>>>>>>>> $499.00, and continued to improve, a lot more people
>>>>>>>>>> would be using
>>>>>> it.
>>>>>>>>>> There is no perfect DAW, they all need work. Is Nuendo
>>>>>>>>>> $1,500.00
>>>> better
>>>>>>>>>> than Logic? Before you answer that, maybe you should
>>>>>>>>>> try the latest
>>>>>> version
>>>>>>>>>> of Logic on a new Mac with Symphony. Then I think you
>>>>>>>>>> would really
>>>>>> know.
>>>>>>>>>> Logic 5.5 is a vary old version. It's all subjective,
>>>>>>>>>> different
>>> strokes
>>>>>>>>>> for different fokes. Jamie and others here are
>>>>>>>>>> examples of people
>>>>> that
>>>>>>>> really
>>>>>>>>>> like Logic and are able to do serious work with Logic,
>>>>>>>>>> so I don't
>>>> think
>>>>>>>> it's
>>>>>>>>>> dyeing. Logic and Apple are only going to get better
>>>>>>>>>> w
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| Re: Just met a sorta' smart guy....... [message #72684 is a reply to message #72625] |
Tue, 19 September 2006 06:49 |
Aaron Allen
Messages: 1988
Registered: May 2008
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y good - Halion One is
a
>rompler based on the Motif to some degree - no editing, but has quite a
few
>useful presets. The other VSTi's are quite nice and creative and stand
up
>well along side the Raptures and Absynths of the soft synth world (albeit
>not as versatile as either of these).
>
>C4 adds the Control Room that is already in Nuendo 3.2 - a great feature
for
>mixerless setups, esp. with key commands for switching between speaker
>configs (multichannel, stereo, mono, etc), 4 different monitor outputs,
dim,
>talkback, monitor source selects, studio configs for headphone mixes, etc.
>
>Instrument tracks are a quick way to add a VSTi with a track directly in
the
>project window (doesn't use the VSTi rack). The only downside is only a
>single stereo out is used. The VSTi rack still supports full multi-output
>VSTi's, but adds a dropdown list on a button next to each insert to select
>which outputs are enabled - easing the clutter of VSTi outputs in the mixer.
>
>That's enough for now. fwiw...
>
>Dedric
>
>Hey Nappy,
I like to try to make DAWs perform unnatural acts. :o)
I'll keep everyone posted if I can find a way to get this happening. Dave
(EK) had some suggestions yesterday that I'm going to try.
Cheers,
Deej
"Nappy" <mgrant01@san.rr.com> wrote in message news:4525177b$1@linux...
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> What a bunch we are here!
> That explains it.
> DJ,I want you to know I've got a ton of respect for you,and I
> think what you're doing in your studio is very creative.
> It truly makes my head spin,and I think I'm a pretty smart guy.
> Keep your note on this whole process I may go your way in the end,who
knows.
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| Re: Just met a sorta' smart guy....... [message #72697 is a reply to message #72625] |
Tue, 19 September 2006 09:01 |
Tom Bruhl
Messages: 1368
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d drop relevant files
>>>into your project - there is of course a preview for audio files, in
>>>addition to the ability to preview in context (e.g. project plays back,
>>>audio file plays in time, time stretched to match the project tempo -
cool
>>>for loops that are cut to measure boundaries, not as useful for free form
>>>vocal tracks, etc). Sound Frame and the Loop browser are just versions
>>of
>>>Media Bay with filters for audio and loops enabled, respectively. Not
>>>overly different, but perhaps saves a step over turning on filters in
Media
>>>Bay.
>>>
>>>The sequencer engine has been rewritten from what I understand. C4 feels
>>>more tightly integrated than Nuendo 3.2. It runs really well (not without
>>>some bugs still, of course).
>>>
>>>C4 adds VST3.0 support, and new built in VST3 plugins. The new plugins
>>with
>>>are actually very good - new EQs, compressors, expander, gate, chorus,
>>>delays, etc. They will operate in mono, stereo or multichannel depending
>>on
>>>the channel format they are inserted on (the delays and chorus are not
>>>multichannel unfortunately). Btw, a 5.1 instance of the multiband comp
>>eats
>>>up a lot of cpu power. The new VSTi's are also very good - Halion One
>is
>>a
>>>rompler based on the Motif to some degree - no editing, but has quite
a
>>few
>>>useful presets. The other VSTi's are quite nice and creative and stand
>>up
>>>well along side the Raptures and Absynths of the soft synth world (albeit
>>>not as versatile as either of these).
>>>
>>>C4 adds the Control Room that is already in Nuendo 3.2 - a great feature
>>for
>>>mixerless setups, esp. with key commands for switching between speaker
>>>configs (multichannel, stereo, mono, etc), 4 different monitor outputs,
>>dim,
>>>talkback, monitor source selects, studio configs for headphone mixes,
etc.
>>>
>>>Instrument tracks are a quick way to add a VSTi with a track directly
in
>>the
>>>project window (doesn't use the VSTi rack). The only downside is only
>a
>>>single stereo out is used. The VSTi rack still supports full multi-output
>>>VSTi's, but adds a dropdown list on a button next to each insert to select
>>>which outputs are enabled - easing the clutter of VSTi outputs in the
mixer.
>>>
>>>That's enough for now. fwiw...
>>>
>>>Dedric
>>>
>>>
>>
>That raises a question that you might be able to answer for me Mark. Is
there a way to keep my Paris box hooked up to my home network for easy file
transfers but not have it hooked up to the web at all? I'm kinda green when
it comes to networking...!!
Rob A
"Mark McDermott" <mark@stateofwail.com> wrote in message
news:4524273d$1@linux...
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> Ed,
>
> The Vista OS completely changes the manner in which applications run on
> the
> operating system (in a protected space), breaking at least half of the
> apps
> that are out there today. The printing and scanning subsystems are totally
> new and most of the bi-directional communications that are available in
> these
> types of devices completely breaks Vista.
>
> However, PARIS 4.0 should run on Vista just fine! ;-)
>
> I suggest not even attempting as it will be a total waste of time. Stick
> with XP (or Mac OS 9.2) for PARIS. Disconnect the machine from the
> Internet
> and strip out all of the unnecessary Windows tasks.
>
> MHO,
>
> Mark
>
> "Ed" <AskMe@email.com> wrote:
>>With the multiple computers in my home network I decided to take the
>>splurge
>
>>and install the Vista RC1 on one of my computers that is just kinda
>>sitting
>
>>there... I gotta say, I like it. Been playing with it off and on for
>>about
>
>>2 weeks now... It does have quite a few software/driver issues still.
> From
>>what I hear, it's many times better than the last beta release. AND IT'S
> so
>>much secure than virii cancerous XP. Here's a nice little article about
>
>>Vista.
>>
>> http://news.com.com/Piecing+together+Windows+Vista/2009-1016 _3-6050105.html?tag=st.ref.goo
>>
>>Anyway, has anyone taken the time to try Vista RC1 with Paris?
>>I searched around this newsgroup and can't really find anyone commenting
> or
>>stating they tried. But my outlook data is limited and only goes back a
> few
>>months... I am positive I am going to upgrade to Vista when it's
>>released... at least on my notebooks... cause I really hate XP! Sure
>>would
>
>>be nice to get Paris working on a secure OS... anyone?
>>
>>
>Imho.. :) Pro Tools Sounds the best, and works for pretty much for all Genres
fo music and it's mixer is very flexible.
Now, Cubase's editing,workflow, and sound quality makes it a formidiable
weapon, as well as it's price.
For me, SX & Neundo cannot handle the mid to big mixes (40 Plus) with plug-ins,
mixng agressivley. The summing bus (to me) seems to breakdown when.
If you mix safe(staying in the -4 -6 db)ranges on your channels, then SX/neundo
will be fine.
Pro Tools Le/M-Powered-Has that nice, vry true top end sound that's heard
on many records. Sufiice it to, it's very easy to mix on PT (LE/M_)..
"Nappy" <mgrant01@san.rr.com> wrote:
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>LaMont and others,
>Who does the best job on the audio side between Cubase and Pro Tools Le?
>I'm still trying to decide between the two. I can get a academic version
>of
>M-Powered Pro Tools le for $150 as long as I want to use M-audio a interface.
>Considering a Project Mix I/O.
>
>respect
>Nappy
>
>"LaMont" <jjdpro@ameritech.net> wrote:
>>
>>Nuendo and Cubase share the same audio engine..
>>
>>"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
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