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| Dj, UAD 1073 question [message #72273] |
Tue, 12 September 2006 11:42  |
cujo
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emember how ugly the place was during the Paris vs PT wars, but I've
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>>>pretty civil relationship with Dorsey, Rivers and a few more of those
>>>guys.........as long as we don't talk politics ;o). The Chevdo dude is
>>>pretty obnoxious, but maybe he has good reason to be. Thanks for the heads
>>>up.
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| Re: Dj, UAD 1073 question [message #72340 is a reply to message #72325] |
Wed, 13 September 2006 13:12  |
Rod Lincoln
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the thing actually does very well in crash tests with the materials
and engineering used.
but the wavecrest car is way kewler.
On Mon, 25 Sep 2006 21:39:44 -0500, "Aaron Allen"
<know-spam@not_here.dude> wrote:
>That first offering (Loremo: The Ultra Efficient Car - 157MPG!) would
>definitely get you killed in traffic around here.. 20 hp? My little 700cc
>Honda Interceptor is a little over 4x that output (and a lot more fun) dead
>stock ( of course, 40 mpg ).
>
>AA
>
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>"rick" <parnell68@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>news:3qagh217etk4ecpm5idmqivcv3ve63j0i5@4ax.com...
>>i like this one better
>> http://www.i4u.com/article5165.html
>> or
>> http://www.wavecrestlabs.com/products.html
>>
>> think either of these will get you laid easier...
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On 25 Sep 2006 21:08:14 +1000, "John" <no@no.com> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> http://www.gizmodo.com/gadgets/cars/moonbeam-100mpg-homemade -car-202834.php
>>
>i'm glad my problematic sex life brings you such gayity...helpme dr.
phol...help me...
On Mon, 25 Sep 2006 20:44:42 -0600, "DJ" <notachance@net.net> wrote:
>ROTFL!!!
>
>dude......you and you donkey just crack me up sometimes.
>
>"rick" <parnell68@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>news:na6fh25fjj50vmeblg3rkipbd73ous7tn0@4ax.com...
>> at your age you don't need no stinkin' palms...just inhale...
>>
>> On Sat, 23 Sep 2006 22:35:57 -0600, "DJ" <notachance@net.net> wrote:
>>
>> >I can make farting noises by squeezing the palms of my hands together.
>> >
>> >"John" <no@no.com> wrote in message news:4515e3c7$1@linux...
>> >>
>> >> haha, great ideas ! did you end up with dog food dust? hehe I can
>> >imagine
>> >> it and that would be a nice low shaker. Thanks !
>> >>
>> >> Dedric Terry <dterry@keyofd.net> wrote:
>> >> >I once used a large plastic bin with about 3-5lbs of dog food kibbles
>> >left
>> >> >in it for a deep shaker/accent sound. It fit the song.
>> >> >
>> >> >Drumsticks on a metal chair makes for interesting percussion, but wear
>> >ear
>> >> >plugs.
>> >> >
>> >> >Dedric
>> >> >
>> >> >On 9/23/06 5:29 PM, in article 4515c347$1@linux, "John" <no@no.com>
>> >wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Ok, I got this shakey egg for $2 and it sounds awesome. Then I
>found
>> >> this
>> >> >> scotch tape dispenser that has sand in the bottom and when you shake
>it
>> >> the
>> >> >> tape roll rattles in sync and adds a great sound to the sand shakey
>> >sound.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> So, what cheap / free instruments do you guys love. They have
>about
>> >> 5
>> >> >> different
>> >> >> size cowbells at the feed and seed I might have to setup an array.
>> >hehe
>> >> >>
>> >> >> John
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >
>>
>Three little old ladies named Gertrude, Maude and Tilly were sitting on a
park bench having a quiet conversation when a flasher approached from across
the park. The flasher came up to the ladies, stood right in front of them
and opened his trench coat.
Gertrude immediately had a stroke.
Then Maude also had a stroke.
But Tilly, being older and more feeble, couldn't reach that far.
Have a nice day Parisians !Great solo in the middle too !! Excellent
"Rod Lincoln" <rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com> wrote:
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>Ha! Love it!
>rod
>"Aaron Allen" <know-spam@not_here.dude> wrote:
>>niiiiccce. I'm gonna sample that and push it through my keyboard tracks
>at
>>the next show for soundcheck, and see what my soundman does.
>>Oughta be purty rich.
>>AA
>>
>>"Don Nafe" <dnafe@magma.ca> wrote in message news:451808f7$1@linux...
>>> http://files.wstm.com/mr.soundman.mp3
>>>
>>> snagged this from Fletcher's forum at PSW
>>>
>>> Cute
>>>
>>> D
>>>
>>
>>
>It didn't do anything.
rick <parnell68@hotmail.com> wrote:
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>http://hansa.i-net.lt/files/voiture.swf
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>I dont think so.
I wouldnt worry about it.
It sounds good.
These are by no means audiophile speakers.
There doesnt appear to be any processing on the
signal from my sound card.
If I get a chance I will listen to it at the studio so I can
hear what it really sounds like.
--
Brandon
"Neil" <OIUOIU@OIU.com> wrote in message news:45183b6d$1@linux...
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> Strange. COULD they be out-of-phase? Because
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| Re: Dj, UAD 1073 question [message #72347 is a reply to message #72340] |
Wed, 13 September 2006 15:27 |
cujo
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e. when they go they go; you just reboot and hope the audio
files are still there...especially with macs.
On 27 Sep 2006 02:23:06 +1000, "Steve L." <slavii@aol.com> wrote:
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>For those of you who have left Paris for greener pastures or are considering
>doing so, what systems have you moved to ? And can you use paris hardware
>with other newer systems. I love paris but some of the bugs just wear on
>me after a while. I can only imagine how you guys who use paris with clients
>must get frustrated at times.
>
>Thanks,
>
>Steve L.FYI, that ain't me FWIW.
Dubya
"John" <no@no.com> wrote in message news:4517b89e$1@linux...
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> http://www.gizmodo.com/gadgets/cars/moonbeam-100mpg-homemade -car-202834.phpMy two biggest frustrations w/ Paris are (in order of importance to me):
1) Can't use cool new plugins like UAD-1's Neve EQ, Waves IR-1 reverbs,
VocAlign, Pitch'n'Time, etc.
2) Not being able to automate sends, EQs and plugin parameters.
I've learned to live w/ the bugs and other quirks. I also have DP and PT
LE. I haven't tried Logic yet. I have friends who use Nuendo and love it,
but I don't know if that's the best way to go for a Mac Dude like me.
God help me... I still love the way Paris sounds!
Gantt
"Steve L." <slavii@aol.com> wrote:
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>For those of you who have left Paris for greener pastures or are considering
>doing so, what systems have you moved to ? And can you use paris hardware
>with other newer systems. I love paris but some of the bugs just wear on
>me after a while. I can only imagine how you guys who use paris with clients
>must get frustrated at times.
>
>Thanks,
>
>Steve L.
>I'm currently using Logic Pro on a dual 2.5GHZ G5 Mac with 2.5GB RAM
(room for 8GB). Plenty fast for tons of tracks, FX and soft synths, and
Logic comes with a good selection of both. I've added some additional
Audio Unit soft synths.
I have had Logic quit on me but I have never lost an audio track or a
project file and I've been using Logic for a few years now. With the
last few Logic updates the stability is improved and they finally fixed
my top three bugs (see other threads).
OSX runs here for weeks/months without rebooting. Journaled file system,
decent security, reasonable multi-tasking. Nice system for video editing
and animation/graphics, too.
Cheers,
-Jamie
http://www.JamieKrutz.com
rick wrote:
> got dp, logic pro and ptle here on a (choke...gasp ...wheeze) mac core
> duo 2.3. mostly stable except for the "the application has
> unexpectedly quit" thingy once in a while. they each have their
> quirks.
>
> as far i know paris really only runs with paris.
>
> as to the frustration thing, it really doesn't matter what app crashes
> when in use. when they go they go; you just reboot and hope the audio
> files are still there...especially with macs.
>
>
> On 27 Sep 2006 02:23:06 +1000, "Steve L." <slavii@aol.com> wrote:
>
>> For those of you who have left Paris for greener pastures or are considering
>> doing so, what systems have you moved to ? And can you use paris hardware
>> with other newer systems. I love paris but some of the bugs just wear on
>> me after a while. I can only imagine how you guys who use paris with clients
>> must get frustrated at times.
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Steve L.
>I love the way paris sounds too. I've been using paris since '99 and have
also gotten used to the bugs. But I must admit unti my recent unexplained
clicks I haven't seen the need to switch to another set up.
"Gantt Kushner" <ganttmann@comcast.net> wrote:
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>My two biggest frustrations w/ Paris are (in order of importance to me):
>
>1) Can't use cool new plugins like UAD-1's Neve EQ, Waves IR-1 reverbs,
> VocAlign, Pitch'n'Time, etc.
>
>2) Not being able to automate sends, EQs and plugin parameters.
>
>I've learned to live w/ the bugs and other quirks. I also have DP and PT
>LE. I haven't tried Logic yet. I have friends who use Nuendo and love
it,
>but I don't know if that's the best way to go for a Mac Dude like me.
>
>God help me... I still love the way Paris sounds!
>
>Gantt
>
>"Steve L." <slavii@aol.com> wrote:
>>
>>For those of you who have left Paris for greener pastures or are considering
>>doing so, what systems have you moved to ? And can you use paris hardware
>>with other newer systems. I love paris but some of the bugs just wear
on
>>me after a while. I can only imagine how you guys who use paris with clients
>>must get frustrated at times.
>>
>>Thanks,
>>
>>Steve L.
>>
>My previous three Paris machines have been slightly modified Dells....never
a problem.
DOn
"Neil" <OIUOIU@OIU.com> wrote in message news:45194b26$1@linux...
>
> Do you think Dell would be a good DAW PC? I understand they're
> decent, but often not very robust.
>
> Neil
>
>
>
> "TCB" <nobody@ishere.com> wrote:
>>
>>Beat this config for anything near the price.
>>
>>http://tinyurl.com/q7shy
>>
>>TCB
>Hi,
I am interested in what services some of you may be able to offer in relation
to multi-track drum editing.
Since I'm a Paris user I thought it'd be good to ask the group to see what
editing servies might be available. I'm in the UK but am happy to work remotely
on this (e.g. by sending files by post on DVD).
During a recent session, I recorded a drummer playing some drum tracks to
a click (multi-tracked to 12 x 24 bit wav files). Unfortunately the performances
are not tight enough and need micro-editing, either by hand, or perhaps using
Cubase SX3's audio quantising / ProTools Beat Mapper or similar). I suspect
the former would give the best results, but since the playing is off throughout
most of the performance, this could be rather time consuming. Sensitivity
will need to be paid to the groove and feel of the music, rather than a straight
100% iterative quanitze.
The drum parts are generally very simple. The style is hard to describe,
but broadly speaking it is alternative folk, but with rock / jazz / world
and other influences. Each song is under 5 minutes; and there are between
1 and 5 songs requiring attention.
I'd be gratfeul if you could let me know what services you can offer that
might be of assistance, what your proposed working method would be and what
your rates for each of them would be, both per hour and per song. It would
also be useful to have an idea of how long the project would take you to
complete (i.e. not just the working hours but estimated time to overall completion).
Unfortunately the band this is for is currently unsigned and so the budget
is somewhat limited. They are, however, quite perfectionist and interested
in obtaining a professional product.
Many thanks in advance.
Kind regards,
Daniel
daniel_burne@yahooNOSPAM.com (just delete the no spam).Loved it! Now I have to go wipe beer of mr.Qwerty!
Rod
"John Macy" <spamlessjohn@johnmacy.com> wrote:
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>http://homepage.mac.com/mcguiremike/iMovieTheater15.html$0.10 per edit per track per song
;-)
Don
ps. I can do it, and do it well but it's not one of my favorite things to
do...and I'm a drummer!
"dan b" <daniel_burneNOSPAM@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:451998bd$1@linux...
>
> Hi,
> I am interested in what services some of you may be able to offer in
> relation
> to multi-track drum editing.
> Since I'm a Paris user I thought it'd be good to ask the group to see what
> editing servies might be available. I'm in the UK but am happy to work
> remotely
> on this (e.g. by sending files by post on DVD).
> During a recent session, I recorded a drummer playing some drum tracks to
> a click (multi-tracked to 12 x 24 bit wav files). Unfortunately the
> performances
> are not tight enough and need micro-editing, either by hand, or perhaps
> using
> Cubase SX3's audio quantising / ProTools Beat Mapper or similar). I
> suspect
> the former would give the best results, but since the playing is off
> throughout
> most of the performance, this could be rather time consuming. Sensitivity
> will need to be paid to the groove and feel of the music, rather than a
> straight
> 100% iterative quanitze.
> The drum parts are generally very simple. The style is hard to describe,
> but broadly speaking it is alternative folk, but with rock / jazz / world
> and other influences. Each song is under 5 minutes; and there are between
> 1 and 5 songs requiring attention.
> I'd be gratfeul if you could let me know what services you can offer that
> might be of assistance, what your proposed working method would be and
> what
> your rates for each
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| Re: Dj, UAD 1073 question [message #72348 is a reply to message #72347] |
Wed, 13 September 2006 15:29 |
cujo
Messages: 285
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of them would be, both per hour and per song. It would
> also be useful to have an idea of how long the project would take you to
> complete (i.e. not just the working hours but estimated time to overall
> completion).
>
> Unfortunately the band this is for is currently unsigned and so the budget
> is somewhat limited. They are, however, quite perfectionist and interested
> in obtaining a professional product.
> Many thanks in advance.
> Kind regards,
> Daniel
> daniel_burne@yahooNOSPAM.com (just delete the no spam).I think it depends on the use and the model. We had a Dell for video
editing at a previous job - tried to add a new video card to get a dual
display and it caused nothing but headaches, but I attributed that to a
cheap motherboard more than anything (everything in this model was cheap/not
industry standard).
I built a custom system for them and it ran great.
If you are mixing RME cards (or others even) and UAD-1s (then add firewire
audio perhaps), I wouldn't go off the shelf and expect great results -
motherboards are too fickle (e.g. you could get stuck with an chipset that
isn't going to work or a slow PCI buss, unless you go PCI-E, then it could
be a toss up until you test it in practice). Otherwise, TI firewire, DDR2,
SATA, etc should be fine, unless you go SATA raid.... (may work fine in
typical data storage, but with audio chipsets can be problematic if you run
really high track counts).
Dedric
On 9/26/06 11:49 AM, in article 45196819$1@linux, "TCB" <nobody@ishere.com>
wrote:
>
> Total crap. That's why I run a few hundred thousand dollars of Dell gear for
> a living at work,
>
> It's an integrated nVidia AMD chipset, I'll bet you hash brownies to hash
> browns (or perl hashes) a TI firewire chip, DDR2 RAM, SATA drives. What's
> missing? Maybe upgrade My audio cards are firewire, I have one UAD-1 that
> I'll have to replace soon anyway with a PCI-E card, and I'll need it less
> with the native f/x.
>
> TCB
>
> "Neil" <OIUOIU@OIU.com> wrote:
>>
>> Do you think Dell would be a good DAW PC? I understand they're
>> decent, but often not very robust.
>>
>> Neil
>>
>>
>>
>> "TCB" <nobody@ishere.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Beat this config for anything near the price.
>>>
>>> http://tinyurl.com/q7shy
>>>
>>> TCB
>>
>The richest part of that is that I record/seq my tracks for the keyboard
parts.. so, there is actually no keys player on our stage asking to be heard
above all else.
Should be worth a few chuckles.
AA
"Rod Lincoln" <rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com> wrote in message
news:4518b153$1@linux...
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> Ha! Love it!
> rod
> "Aaron Allen" <know-spam@not_here.dude> wrote:
>>niiiiccce. I'm gonna sample that and push it through my keyboard tracks
> at
>>the next show for soundcheck, and see what my soundman does.
>>Oughta be purty rich.
>>AA
>>
>>"Don Nafe" <dnafe@magma.ca> wrote in message news:451808f7$1@linux...
>>> http://files.wstm.com/mr.soundman.mp3
>>>
>>> snagged this from Fletcher's forum at PSW
>>>
>>> Cute
>>>
>>> D
>>>
>>
>>
>If you've never done this, let me offer a big gotcha I've run into before
you blow a wad of cash on edits.
If the other tracks are playing to these 'grooves', you'll be redoing them
too. Reason? Once you move the drums around the other parts will need to
follow it because that timing reference is now gone.
However, if you played the other guys in on the click, that's a good thing.
AA
"dan b" <daniel_burneNOSPAM@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:451998bd$1@linux...
>
> Hi,
> I am interested in what services some of you may be able to offer in
> relation
> to multi-track drum editing.
> Since I'm a Paris user I thought it'd be good to ask the group to see what
> editing servies might be available. I'm in the UK but am happy to work
> remotely
> on this (e.g. by sending files by post on DVD).
> During a recent session, I recorded a drummer playing some drum tracks to
> a click (multi-tracked to 12 x 24 bit wav files). Unfortunately the
> performances
> are not tight enough and need micro-editing, either by hand, or perhaps
> using
> Cubase SX3's audio quantising / ProTools Beat Mapper or similar). I
> suspect
> the former would give the best results, but since the playing is off
> throughout
> most of the performance, this could be rather time consuming. Sensitivity
> will need to be paid to the groove and feel of the music, rather than a
> straight
> 100% iterative quanitze.
> The drum parts are generally very simple. The style is hard to describe,
> but broadly speaking it is alternative folk, but with rock / jazz / world
> and other influences. Each song is under 5 minutes; and there are between
> 1 and 5 songs requiring attention.
> I'd be gratfeul if you could let me know what services you can offer that
> might be of assistance, what your proposed working method would be and
> what
> your rates for each of them would be, both per hour and per song. It would
> also be useful to have an idea of how long the project would take you to
> complete (i.e. not just the working hours but estimated time to overall
> completion).
>
> Unfortunately the band this is for is currently unsigned and so the budget
> is somewhat limited. They are, however, quite perfectionist and interested
> in obtaining a professional product.
> Many thanks in advance.
> Kind regards,
> Daniel
> daniel_burne@yahooNOSPAM.com (just delete the no spam).How long ago was this? I used to shy away from some 'commodity' manufacturers
but when I look under the hood these days it looks like they're using nearly
identical core chipsets to the ASUS and Chaintechs of the world. The differences
are in extras, gigabit networking, Promise SATA controllers, stuff like that.
Maybe I'll test the theory. My old audio machine (an old Athlon box) is in
bad shape. I was going to hold out for a fancy quad core but maybe I'll snap
up one of these Dells and see if I can make into an audio box.
Anybody want to bet against me?
TCB
Dedric Terry <dterry@keyofd.net> wrote:
>I think it depends on the use and the model. We had a Dell for video
>editing at a previous job - tried to add a new video card to get a dual
>display and it caused nothing but headaches, but I attributed that to a
>cheap motherboard more than anything (everything in this model was cheap/not
>industry standard).
>
>I built a custom system for them and it ran great.
>
>If you are mixing RME cards (or others even) and UAD-1s (then add firewire
>audio perhaps), I wouldn't go off the shelf and expect great results -
>motherboards are too fickle (e.g. you could get stuck with an chipset that
>isn't going to work or a slow PCI buss, unless you go PCI-E, then it could
>be a toss up until you test it in practice). Otherwise, TI firewire, DDR2,
>SATA, etc should be fine, unless you go SATA raid.... (may work fine in
>typical data storage, but with audio chipsets can be problematic if you
run
>really high track counts).
>
>Dedric
>
>On 9/26/06 11:49 AM, in article 45196819$1@linux, "TCB" <nobody@ishere.com>
>wrote:
>
>>
>> Total crap. That's why I run a few hundred thousand dollars of Dell gear
for
>> a living at work,
>>
>> It's an integrated nVidia AMD chipset, I'll bet you hash brownies to hash
>> browns (or perl hashes) a TI firewire chip, DDR2 RAM, SATA drives. What's
>> missing? Maybe upgrade My audio cards are firewire, I have one UAD-1 that
>> I'll have to replace soon anyway with a PCI-E card, and I'll need it less
>> with the native f/x.
>>
>> TCB
>>
>> "Neil" <OIUOIU@OIU.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Do you think Dell would be a good DAW PC? I understand they're
>>> decent, but often not very robust.
>>>
>>> Neil
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> "TCB" <nobody@ishere.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Beat this config for anything near the price.
>>>>
>>>> http://tinyurl.com/q7shy
>>>>
>>>> TCB
>>>
>>
>Go to AES and compare these mics-
[url] http://telefunkenusa.com/products/show_product.php?item=7&am p;cat=mics[/url
]
At $7500.00 (for the VF-14 model), it's $2000.00 more than the Wunderaudio
U47 clone.
http://www.wunderaudio.com/CM7product.html
Mike Castoro at Wunderaudio has a bunch of old '47's and I'm sure Telefunken
has a few in their closet. I wonder if they will have originals available to
A/B with the clones? (and yeah..I know the old ones all sound different so
what's the use-still I'm interested)?
Call me afterwoard and tell me which one I will have to have or I'll die.Funny... I'm in the midst of a project in which I'm having to do much drum
editing, sometimes with a click, sometimes without. There were a few tunes
that needed so much repair that I convinced them to re-record them. I almost
had them convinced to use a real studio drummer, but alas, they decided that
a band is a band, and the old drummer came back. He did better, but he's
still not a great studio player. There are so many little things that go<
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| Re: Dj, UAD 1073 question [message #72350 is a reply to message #72348] |
Wed, 13 September 2006 15:48 |
Rod Lincoln
Messages: 883
Registered: September 2005
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>Hi,
>I am interested in what services some of you may be able to offer in relation
>to multi-track drum editing.
>Since I'm a Paris user I thought it'd be good to ask the group to see what
>editing servies might be available. I'm in the UK but am happy to work remotely
>on this (e.g. by sending files by post on DVD).
>During a recent session, I recorded a drummer playing some drum tracks to
>a click (multi-tracked to 12 x 24 bit wav files). Unfortunately the performances
>are not tight enough and need micro-editing, either by hand, or perhaps
using
>Cubase SX3's audio quantising / ProTools Beat Mapper or similar). I suspect
>the former would give the best results, but since the playing is off throughout
>most of the performance, this could be rather time consuming. Sensitivity
>will need to be paid to the groove and feel of the music, rather than a
straight
>100% iterative quanitze.
>The drum parts are generally very simple. The style is hard to describe,
>but broadly speaking it is alternative folk, but with rock / jazz / world
>and other influences. Each song is under 5 minutes; and there are between
>1 and 5 songs requiring attention.
>I'd be gratfeul if you could let me know what services you can offer that
>might be of assistance, what your proposed working method would be and what
>your rates for each of them would be, both per hour and per song. It would
>also be useful to have an idea of how long the project would take you to
>complete (i.e. not just the working hours but estimated time to overall
completion).
>
>Unfortunately the band this is for is currently unsigned and so the budget
>is somewhat limited. They are, however, quite perfectionist and interested
>in obtaining a professional product.
>Many thanks in advance.
>Kind regards,
>Daniel
>daniel_burne@yahooNOSPAM.com (just delete the no spam).You & Aaron both make some good points... these guys could
EASILY spend more $$$ in edits than on re-tracking the whole
thing - and they still may have to retrack the "other than
drums" parts.
These guys are picky & want to do it right, but can't nail it
themselves? Here's my advice in that scenario, FWTFIW:
1.) get a MIDI track going with a rudimentary programmed drum
track for the rest of the guys to play with.
2.) once the basic rhythm tracks are done, have the drummer
play along with these, but mute the MIDI drums.
3.) Have someone who's got either PT with Beat Detective - or
something like CubaseV3 so they can create audio slices from
the hitpoints - edit the drummer's tracks to the MIDI groove.
They don't have to nail everything down perfectly locked if you
want it to swing a little.
In this case, I think that'd be the best way to go... and
probably the least expensive, as well. Either way, you're
gonna have to retrack the other instruments if you edit the
drums - if theyr'e as off as much & as often as you say they
are.
Neil
"Gantt Kushner" <ganttmann@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>Funny... I'm in the midst of a project in which I'm having to do much drum
>editing, sometimes with a click, sometimes without. There were a few tunes
>that needed so much repair that I convinced them to re-record them. I almost
>had them convinced to use a real studio drummer, but alas, they decided
that
>a band is a band, and the old drummer came back. He did better, but he's
>still not a great studio player. There are so many little things that go
>into making what I consider to be a studio quality drum performance: Good,
>consistant time; good consistant tone; a solid groove that makes the other
>musicians want to play their best; good taste when it comes to where and
>when to play fills. I can fix timing, although sometimes the life of the
>groove suffers, and I can fix the occasional less than stellar snare or
kick
>drum hit, but if I've learned nothing else in 19 years of doing this for
>a living it's this: The best money anyone can spend on a project - maybe
>even more important than the $$$ spent on the studio - is to hire the very
>best studio drummer you can find!
>
>All that said, my first question would be - Is it possible to hire a better
>drum to come in and replace the existing drums? My guess is that it wouldn't
>be more expensive than hiring someone to edit the drums you already have.
> I'd be happy to do it for you, but I charge $75 per hour and drum editing
>is painstaking work...
>
>Good luck!
>
>Gantt
>"dan b" <daniel_burneNOSPAM@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>>Hi,
>>I am interested in what services some of you may be able to offer in relation
>>to multi-track drum editing.
>>Since I'm a Paris user I thought it'd be good to ask the group to see what
>>editing servies might be available. I'm in the UK but am happy to work
remotely
>>on this (e.g. by sending files by post on DVD).
>>During a recent session, I recorded a drummer playing some drum tracks
to
>>a click (multi-tracked to 12 x 24 bit wav files). Unfortunately the performances
>>are not tight enough and need micro-editing, either by hand, or perhaps
>using
>>Cubase SX3's audio quantising / ProTools Beat Mapper or similar). I suspect
>>the former would give the best results, but since the playing is off throughout
>>most of the performance, this could be rather time consuming. Sensitivity
>>will need to be paid to the groove and feel of the music, rather than a
>straight
>>100% iterative quanitze.
>>The drum parts are generally very simple. The style is hard to describe,
>>but broadly speaking it is alternative folk, but with rock / jazz / world
>>and other influences. Each song is under 5 minutes; and there are between
>>1 and 5 songs requiring attention.
>>I'd be gratfeul if you could let me know what services you can offer that
>>might be of assistance, what your proposed working method would be and
what
>>your rates for each of them would be, both per hour and per song. It would
>>also be useful to have an idea of how long the project would take you to
>>complete (i.e. not just the working hours but estimated time to overall
>completion).
>>
>>Unfortunately the band this is for is currently unsigned and so the budget
>>is somewhat limited. They are, however, quite perfectionist and interested
>>in obtaining a professional product.
>>Many thanks in advance.
>>Kind regards,
>>Daniel
>>daniel_burne@yahooNOSPAM.com (just delete the no spam).
>"Dubya Mark Wilson" <mark.xspam@avidrecording.com> wrote:
>FYI, that ain't me FWIW.
What? Why not? Well, then hurry up & get off your ass and save
the planet!
lolhttp://www.quikquak.com/
;o)i had this happen years ago and it was the power feed to the cd drive.
this was the beginning of the end for the ps. for a temp fix try
switching the power feed to the drive or disconnect it.
On 25 Sep 2006 12:34:49 +1000, "Steve L." <slavii@aol.com> wrote:
>
>But would this only affect certain tracks or all track? My current project
>is nine tracks. and only three are affected. And the old question of why
>now all of a sudden after all these years? I'm gonna try pulling out one
>of the eds cards to see if it's a power issue (I'm guessing more power will
>be availible to remaining eds card). If all is well with one eds card what
>are my options ? I have a pretty beefy power supply in it now. I guess
>I could try to get an expansion chassis.
>
>
>John <no@no.com> wrote:
>>More wild speculation....
>>
>>If you are recording and your computer is close to 100% CPU power the
>>simple checking the cdrom drive can cause clicks and pops at regular
>>intervals...Also if a hard drive is sharing an IDE channel with a cdrom
>
>>and it checks for a cd in the drive then that hard drive cannot be accessed
>>
>>
>>Steve L. wrote:
>>> I imported the tracks into wavelab and had the same clicks. I don't think
>>> it's heat. Side of computer is open to cool room. Could be power related,
>>> though it's wierd that it just happenend after all this time.
>>>
>>> John <no@no.com> wrote:
>>>> heat and power supply
>>>>
>>>> Steve L. wrote:
>>>Thanks for the responses guys. Fortunately the only thing that's been tracked
apart from drums is the vocals and some percussion, both of which were recorded
to the click (although there may have been some drums in the monitor mix).
I'm holding back on everything else because the groove needs to sit around
the drums.
Listening back again, the drum tracks aren't awful, but their not rock solid
(enough). I suspect my problems with the editing are more to do with my ineptitude
as a drum editor than the size of the task. I suspect someone experienced
with ProTools BeatMapper or Cubase SX3 could do a pretty speedy job.
That said, I'm also looking into getting the parts re-drummed by a session
pro, which may well be cheaper and produce better results (annoyingly I've
got kind of attached to the recorded sound of the existing tracks...).
I'm just costing out options at the moment, so I'll let you all know how
it pans out.
Thanks,
Dan
"Neil" <OIUOIU@OIU.com> wrote:
>
>You & Aaron both make some good points... these guys could
>EASILY spend more $$$ in edits than on re-tracking the whole
>thing - and they still may have to retrack the "other than
>drums" parts.
>
>These guys are picky & want to do it right, but can't nail it
>themselves? Here's my advice in that scenario, FWTFIW:
>
>1.) get a MIDI track going with a rudimentary programmed drum
>track for the rest of the guys to play with.
>2.) once the basic rhythm tracks are done, have the drummer
>play along with these, but mute the MIDI drums.
>3.) Have someone who's got either PT with Beat Detective - or
>something like CubaseV3 so they can create audio slices from
>the hitpoints - edit the drummer's tracks to the MIDI groove.
>They don't have to nail everything down perfectly locked if you
>want it to swing a little.
>
>In this case, I think that'd be the best way to go... and
>probably the least expensive, as well. Either way, you're
>gonna have to retrack the other instruments if you edit the
>drums - if theyr'e as off as much & as often as you say they
>are.
>
>Neil
>
>
>
>
>
>"Gantt Kushner" <ganttmann@comcast.net> wrote:
>>
>>Funny... I'm in the midst of a project in which I'm having to do much drum
>>editing, sometimes with a click, sometimes without. There were a few tunes
>>that needed so much repair that I convinced them to re-record them. I
almost
>>had them convinced to use a real studio drummer, but alas, they decided
>that
>>a band is a band, and the old drummer came back. He did better, but he's
>>still not a great studio player. There are so many little things that
go
>>into making what I consider to be a studio quality drum performance: Good,
>>consistant time; good consistant tone; a solid groove that makes the
other
>>musicians want to play their best; good tas
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| Re: Dj, UAD 1073 question [message #72355 is a reply to message #72350] |
Wed, 13 September 2006 19:00 |
Tom Bruhl
Messages: 1368
Registered: June 2007
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systems have you moved to ? And can you use paris hardware
>>> with other newer systems. I love paris but some of the bugs just wear on
>>> me after a while. I can only imagine how you guys who use paris with clients
>>> must get frustrated at times.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> Steve L.
>>Intel pledges 80-core chips in five years and Microsoft promises to have it
run like a 386 on the day of release. heheh
http://www.builderau.com.au/news/soa/Intel_pledges_80_core_c hips_in_five_years/0,339028227,339271320,00.htmSpeaking of computers...I just aquired two DVD burners in my latest upgrade
and to install Nero on both machines I had to have DirectX 9.0 on each
machine...as neither are connected to the internet I went to the MS site,
jumped through their hoops and finally got the DirectX crap downloaded
Woohoo!
So I go to the machine which houses Paris and guess what...a flawless
install of DX and Nero.
Feeling all happy with myself I move over to the second machine which houses
all my other apps and guess what, no sooner do the components of DirectX
install....I get anotice...cannot proceed because
Wait for it
This program has not passed the MS windows logo compatability test or some
such hog wash
This is a totally legit machine and I get this crap
Un-freakin'-believable!
DOn
"John" <no@no.com> wrote in message news:451a6be5$1@linux...
>
> Intel pledges 80-core chips in five years and Microsoft promises to have
> it
> run like a 386 on the day of release. heheh
>
> http://www.builderau.com.au/news/soa/Intel_pledges_80_core_c hips_in_five_years/0,339028227,339271320,00.htmDan, just curious:
a.) How many tracks are the drums themselves on?
b.) How did the singer record vocals to the drums only (i.e.:
with no pitch reference from any instruments)?
Not that one question has anything to do with the other, but I
was just wondering.
Neil
"dan b" <daniel_burneNOSPAM@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>Thanks for the responses guys. Fortunately the only thing that's been tracked
>apart from drums is the vocals and some percussion, both of which were recorded
>to the click (although there may have been some drums in the monitor mix).
>I'm holding back on everything else because the groove needs to sit around
>the drums.
>Listening back again, the drum tracks aren't awful, but their not rock solid
>(enough). I suspect my problems with the editing are more to do with my
ineptitude
>as a drum editor than the size of the task. I suspect someone experienced
>with ProTools BeatMapper or Cubase SX3 could do a pretty speedy job.
>That said, I'm also looking into getting the parts re-drummed by a session
>pro, which may well be cheaper and produce better results (annoyingly I've
>got kind of attached to the recorded sound of the existing tracks...).
>I'm just costing out options at the moment, so I'll let you all know how
>it pans out.
>Thanks,
>Dan
>
>"Neil" <OIUOIU@OIU.com> wrote:
>>
>>You & Aaron both make some good points... these guys could
>>EASILY spend more $$$ in edits than on re-tracking the whole
>>thing - and they still may have to retrack the "other than
>>drums" parts.
>>
>>These guys are picky & want to do it right, but can't nail it
>>themselves? Here's my advice in that scenario, FWTFIW:
>>
>>1.) get a MIDI track going with a rudimentary programmed drum
>>track for the rest of the guys to play with.
>>2.) once the basic rhythm tracks are done, have the drummer
>>play along with these, but mute the MIDI drums.
>>3.) Have someone who's got either PT with Beat Detective - or
>>something like CubaseV3 so they can create audio slices from
>>the hitpoints - edit the drummer's tracks to the MIDI groove.
>>They don't have to nail everything down perfectly locked if you
>>want it to swing a little.
>>
>>In this case, I think that'd be the best way to go... and
>>probably the least expensive, as well. Either way, you're
>>gonna have to retrack the other instruments if you edit the
>>drums - if theyr'e as off as much & as often as you say they
>>are.
>>
>>Neil
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>"Gantt Kushner" <ganttmann@comcast.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>Funny... I'm in the midst of a project in which I'm having to do much
drum
>>>editing, sometimes with a click, sometimes without. There were a few
tunes
>>>that needed so much repair that I convinced them to re-record them. I
>almost
>>>had them convinced to use a real studio drummer, but alas, they decided
>>that
>>>a band is a band, and the old drummer came back. He did better, but
he's
>>>still not a great studio player. There are so many little things that
>go
>>>into making what I consider to be a studio quality drum performance:
Good,
>>>consistant time; good consistant tone; a solid groove that makes the
>other
>>>musicians want to play their best; good taste when it comes to where
and
>>>when to play fills. I can fix timing, although sometimes the life of
the
>>>groove suffers, and I can fix the occasional less than stellar snare or
>>kick
>>>drum hit, but if I've learned nothing else in 19 years of doing this
for
>>>a living it's this: The best money anyone can spend on a project - maybe
>>>even more important than the $$$ spent on the studio - is to hire the
very
>>>best studio drummer you can find!
>>>
>>>All that said, my first question would be - Is it possible to hire a
better
>>>drum to come in and replace the existing drums? My guess is that it wouldn't
>>>be more expensive than hiring someone to edit the drums you already have.
>>> I'd be happy to do it for you, but I charge $75 per hour and drum editing
>>>is painstaking work...
>>>
>>>Good luck!
>>>
>>>Gantt
>>>"dan b" <daniel_burneNOSPAM@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>Hi,
>>>>I am interested in what services some of you may be able to offer in
relation
>>>>to multi-track drum editing.
>>>>Since I'm a Paris user I thought it'd be good to ask the group to see
>what
>>>>editing servies might be available. I'm in the UK but am happy to work
>>remotely
>>>>on this (e.g. by sending files by post on DVD).
>>>>During a recent session, I recorded a drummer playing some drum tracks
>>to
>>>>a click (multi-tracked to 12 x 24 bit wav files). Unfortunately the performances
>>>>are not tight enough and need micro-editing, either by hand, or perhaps
>>>using
>>>>Cubase SX3's audio quantising / ProTools Beat Mapper or similar). I suspect
>>>>the former would give the best results, but since the playing is off
throughout
>>>>most of the performance, this could be rather time consuming. Sensitivity
>>>>will need to be paid to the groove and feel of the music, rather than
>a
>>>straight
>>>>100% iterative quanitze.
>>>>The drum parts are generally very simple. The style is hard to describe,
>>>>but broadly speaking it is alternative folk, but with rock / jazz / world
>>>>and other influences. Each song is under 5 minutes; and there are between
>>>>1 and 5 songs requiring attention.
>>>>I'd be gratfeul if you could let me know what services you can offer
that
>>>>might be of assistance, what your proposed working method would be and
>>what
>>>>your rates for each of them would be, both per hour and per song. It
would
>>>>also be useful to have an idea of how long the project would take you
>to
>>>>complete (i.e. not just the working hours but estimated time to overall
>>>completion).
>>>>
>>>>Unfortunately the band this is for is currently unsigned and so the budget
>>>>is somewhat limited. They are, however, quite perfectionist and interested
>>>>in obtaining a professional product.
>>>>Many thanks in advance.
>>>>Kind regards,
>>>>Daniel
>>>>daniel_burne@yahooNOSPAM.com (just delete the no spam).
>>>
>>
>That's what you get for going legit. hehe
"Don Nafe" <dnafe@magma.ca> wrote:
>Speaking of computers...I just aquired two DVD burners in my latest upgrade
>and to install Nero on both machines I had to have DirectX 9.0 on each
>machine...as neither are connected to the internet I went to the MS site,
>jumped through their hoops and finally got the DirectX crap downloaded
>
>Woohoo!
>
>So I go to the machine which houses Paris and guess what...a flawless
>install of DX and Nero.
>
>Feeling all happy with myself I move over to the second machine which houses
>all my other apps and guess what, no sooner do the components of DirectX
>install....I get anotice...cannot proceed because
>
>
>Wait for it
>
>
>This program has not passed the MS windows logo compatability test or some
>such hog wash
>
>This is a totally legit machine and I get this crap
>
>Un-freakin'-believable!
>
>DOn
>
>
>"John" <no@no.com> wrote in message news:451a6be5$1@linux...
>>
>> Intel pledges 80-core chips in five years and Microsoft promises to have
>> it
>> run like a 386 on the day of release. heheh
>>
>> http://www.builderau.com.au/news/soa/Intel_pledges_80_core_c hips_in_five_years/0,339028227,339271320,00.htm
>
>
>"John" <no@no.com> wrote:
>
>Intel pledges 80-core chips in five years and Microsoft promises to have
it
>run like a 386 on the day of release. heheh
>
> http://www.builderau.com.au/news/soa/Intel_pledges_80_core_c hips_in_five_years/0,339028227,339271320,00.htm
Holding out for 8000-core chips due in 6 years. That should be fast.
Gene"John Macy" <spamlessjohn@johnmacy.com> wrote in message
news:45192628$1@linux...
>
> http://homepage.mac.com/mcguiremike/iMovieTheater15.html
Awright then!!
;o)honesty is it's own reward...why when i was growing up i was to poor
to steal...honestly...
On Wed, 27 Sep 2006 08:51:38 -0400, "Don Nafe" <dnafe@magma.ca> wrote:
>Speaking of computers...I just aquired two DVD burners in my latest upgrade
>and to install Nero on both machines I had to have DirectX 9.0 on each
>machine...as neither are connected to the internet I went to the MS site,
>jumped through their hoops and finally got the DirectX crap downloaded
>
>Woohoo!
>
>So I go to the machine which houses Paris and guess what...a flawless
>install of DX and Nero.
>
>Feeling all happy with myself I move over to the second machine which houses
>all my other apps and guess what, no sooner do the components of DirectX
>install....I get anotice...cannot proceed because
>
>
>Wait for it
>
>
>This program has not passed the MS windows logo compatability test or some
>such hog wash
>
>This is a totally legit machine and I get this crap
>
>Un-freakin'-believable!
>
>DOn
>
>
>"John" <no@no.com> wrote in message news:451a6be5$1@linux...
>>
>> Intel pledges 80-core chips in five years and Microsoft promises to have
>> it
>> run like a 386 on the day of release. heheh
>>
>> http://www.builderau.com.au/news/soa/Intel_pledges_80_core_c hips_in_five_years/0,339028227,339271320,00.htm
>Ah, OK. "Reboot" means to restart the OS, something that's very rarely
necessary with OSX.
Starting Logic again if it quits makes sense. Logic has quit on me also,
but the last few updates have made it much more stable while fixing the
most annoying (to me) bugs. Logic hasn't lost any data here even during
its least stable period. It seems pretty reliable now and the feature
set is amazing.
Logic has progressed to the point where I can now recommend it.
Cheers,
-Jamie
http://www.JamieKrutz.com
rick wrote:
> i'm not saying it happens a lot but it has happened to me and others i
> know. and the reboot is for logic not the mac.
>
> On Tue, 26 Sep 2006 13:43:07 -0600, Jamie K <Meta@Dimensional.com>
> wrote:
>
>> I'm currently using Logic Pro on a dual 2.5GHZ G5 Mac with 2.5GB RAM
>> (room for 8GB). Plenty fast for tons of tracks, FX and soft synths, and
>> Logic comes with a good selection of both. I've added some additional
>> Audio Unit soft synths.
>>
>> I have had Logic quit on me but I have never lost an audio track or a
>> project file and I've been using Logic for a few years now. With the
>> last few Logic updates the stability is improved and they finally fixed
>> my top three bugs (see other threads).
>>
>> OSX runs here for weeks/months without rebooting. Journaled file system,
>> decent security, reasonable multi-tasking. Nice system for video editing
>> and animation/graphics, too.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> -Jamie
>> http://www.JamieKrutz.com
>>
>>
>> rick wrote:
>>> got dp, logic pro and ptle here on a (choke...gasp ...wheeze) mac core
>>> duo 2.3. mostly stable except for the "the application has
>>> unexpectedly quit" thingy once in a while. they each have their
>>> quirks.
>>>
>>> as far i know paris really only runs with paris.
>>>
>>> as to the frustration thing, it really doesn't matter what app crashes
>>> when in use. when they go they go; you just reboot and hope the audio
>>> files are still there...especially with macs.
>>>
>>>
>>> On 27 Sep 2006 02:23:06 +1000, "Steve L." <slavii@aol.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> For those of you who have left Paris for greener pastures or are considering
>>>> doing so, what systems have you moved to ? And can you use paris hardware
>>>> with other newer systems. I love paris but some of the bugs just wear on
>>>> me after a while. I can only imagine how you guys who use paris with clients
>>>> must get frustrated at times.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>>
>>>> Steve L.
>The thing is with the exception of software and Audio interfaces these two
machines are identical...
go figure....
wait we're talking MS here...
never mind
Don
"rick" <parnell68@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:3t3lh2p5fmsf74k6eubdqmh1d39ufl3kuv@4ax.com...
> honesty is it's own reward...why when i was growing up i was to poor
> to steal...honestly...
>
> On Wed, 27 Sep 2006 08:51:38 -0400, "Don Nafe" <dnafe@magma.ca> wrote:
>
>>Speaking of computers...I just aquired two DVD burners in my latest
>>upgrade
>>and to install Nero on both machines I had to have DirectX 9.0 on each
>>machine...as neither are connected to the internet I went to the MS site,
>>jumped through their hoops and finally got the DirectX crap downloaded
>>
>>Woohoo!
>>
>>So I go to the machine which houses Paris and guess what...a flawless
>>install of DX and Nero.
>>
>>Feeling all happy with myself I move over to the second machine which
>>houses
>>all my other apps and guess what, no sooner do the components of DirectX
>>install....I get anotice...cannot proceed because
>>
>>
>>Wait for it
>>
>>
>>This program has not passed the MS windows logo compatability test or some
>>such hog wash
>>
>>This is a totally legit machine and I get this crap
>>
>>Un-freakin'-believable!
>>
>>DOn
>>
>>
>>"John" <no@no.com> wrote in message news:451a6be5$1@linux...
>>>
>>> Intel pledges 80-core chips in five years and Microsoft promises to have
>>> it
>>> run like a 386 on the day of release. heheh
>>>
>>> http://www.builderau.com.au/news/soa/Intel_pledges_80_core_c hips_in_five_years/0,339028227,339271320,00.htm
>>
>Quality
Price
Time
Pick 2
I love that he's a perfectionist with no money. Brilliant. Should be no
shortage of people ready to take this project.
"Neil" <IUOIU@OIU.com> wrote:
>
>Dan, just curious:
>
>a.) How many tracks are the drums themselves on?
>b.) How did the singer record vocals to the drums only (i.e.:
>with no pitch reference from any instruments)?
>
>Not that one question has anything to do with the other, but I
>was just wondering.
>
>Neil
>
>
>"dan b" <daniel_burneNOSPAM@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>>Thanks for the responses guys. Fortunately the only thing that's been tracked
>>apart from drums is the vocals and some percussion, both of which were
recorded
>>to the click (although there may have been some drums in the monitor mix).
>>I'm holding back on everything else because the groove needs to sit around
>>the drums.
>>Listening back again, the drum tracks aren't awful, but their not rock
solid
>>(enough). I suspect my problems with the editing are more to do with my
>ineptitude
>>as a drum editor than the size of the task. I suspect someone experienced
>>with ProTools BeatMapper or Cubase SX3 could do a pretty speedy job.
>>That said, I'm also looking into getting the parts re-drummed by a session
>>pro, which may well be cheaper and produce better results (annoyingly I've
>>got kind of attached to the recorded sound of the existing tracks...).
>>I'm just costing out options at the moment, so I'll let you all know how
>>it pans out.
>>Thanks,
>>Dan
>>
>>"Neil" <OIUOIU@OIU.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>You & Aaron both make some good points... these guys could
>>>EASILY spend more $$$ in edits than on re-tracking the whole
>>>thing - and they still may have to retrack the "other than
>>>drums" parts.
>>>
>>>These guys are picky & want to do it right, but can't nail it
>>>themselves? Here's my advice in that scenario, FWTFIW:
>>>
>>>1.) get a MIDI track going with a rudimentary programmed drum
>>>track for the rest of the guys to play with.
>>>2.) once the basic rhythm tracks are done, have the drummer
>>>play along with these, but mute the MIDI drums.
>>>3.) Have someone who's got either PT with Beat Detective - or
>>>something like CubaseV3 so they can create audio slices from
>>>the hitpoints - edit the drummer's tracks to the MIDI groove.
>>>They don't have to nail everything down perfectly locked if you
>>>want it to swing a little.
>>>
>>>In this case, I think that'd be the best way to go... and
>>>probably the least expensive, as well. Either way, you're
>>>gonna have to retrack the other instruments if you edit the
>>>drums - if theyr'e as off as much & as often as you say they
>>>are.
>>>
>>>Neil
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>"Gantt Kushner" <ganttmann@comcast.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>Funny... I'm in the midst of a project in which I'm having to do much
>drum
>>>>editing, sometimes with a click, sometimes without. There were a few
>tunes
>>>>that needed so much repair that I convinced them to re-record them.
I
>>almost
>>>>had them convinced to use a real studio drummer, but alas, they decided
>>>that
>>>>a band is a band, and the old drummer came back. He did better, but
>he's
>>>>still not a great studio player. There are so many little things that
>>go
>>>>into making what I consider to be a studio quality drum performance:
>Good,
>>>>consistant time; good consistant tone; a solid groove that makes the
>>other
>>>>musicians want to play their best; good taste when it comes to where
>and
>>>>when to play fills. I can fix timing, although sometimes the life of
>the
>>>>groove suffers, and I can fix the occasional less than stellar snare
or
>>>kick
>>>>drum hit, but if I've learned nothing else in 19 years of doing this
>for
>>>>a living it's this: The best money anyone can spend on a project - maybe
>>>>even more important than the $$$ spent on the studio - is to hire the
>very
>>>>best studio drummer you can find!
>>>>
>>>>All that said, my first question would be - Is it possible to hire a
>better
>>>>drum to come in and replace the existing drums? My guess is that it
wouldn't
>>>>be more expensive than hiring someone to edit the drums you already have.
>>>> I'd be happy to do it for you, but I charge $75 per hour and drum editing
>>>>is painstaking work...
>>>>
>>>>Good luck!
>>>>
>>>>Gantt
>>>>"dan b" <daniel_burneNOSPAM@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>Hi,
>>>>>I am interested in what services some of you may be able to offer in
>relation
>>>>>to multi-track drum editing.
>>>>>Since I'm a Paris user I thought it'd be good to ask the group to see
>>what
>>>>>editing servies might be available. I'm in the UK but am happy to work
>>>remotely
>>>>>on this (e.g. by sending files by post on DVD).
>>>>>During a recent session, I recorded a drummer playing some drum tracks
>>>to
>>>>>a click (multi-tracked to 12 x 24 bit wav files). Unfortunately the
performances
>>>>>are not tight enough and need micro-editing, either by hand, or perhaps
>>>>using
>>>>>Cubase SX3's audio quantising / ProTools Beat Mapper or similar). I
suspect
>>>>>the former would give the best results, but since the playing is off
>throughout
>>>>>most of the performance, this could be rather time consuming. Sensitivity
>>>>>will need to be paid to the groove and feel of the music, rather than
>>a
>>>>straight
>>>>>100% iterative quanitze.
>>>>>The drum parts are generally very simple. The style is hard to describe,
>>>>>but broadly speaking it is alternative folk, but with rock / jazz /
world
>>>>>and other influences. Each song is under 5 minutes; and there are between
>>>>>1 and 5 songs requiring attention.
>>>>>I'd be gratfeul if you could let me know what services you can offer
>that
>>>>>might be of assistance, what your proposed working method would be and
>>>what
>>>>>your rates for each of them would be, both per hour and per song. It
>would
>>>>>also be useful to have an idea of how long the project would take you
>>to
>>>>>complete (i.e. not just the working hours but estimated time to overall
>>>>completion).
>>>>>
>>>>>Unfortunately the band this is for is currently unsigned and so the
budget
>>>>>is somewhat limited. They are, however, quite perfectionist and interested
>>>>>in obtaining a professional product.
>>>>>Many thanks in advance.
>>>>>Kind regards,
>>>>>Daniel
>>>>>daniel_burne@yahooNOSPAM.com (just delete the no spam).
>>>>
>>>
>>
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I did everything Rod suggested. All plugins work. That's the good =
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The bad part is that as Paris starts up it still gives me a pop up =
saying:
"Wrapper cannot find Pultec-Pro mono/stereo. You may have removed these
plugins. We suggest you replace them and blah blah blah..."
I have a clean UAD-1 4.4 install after having removed all the UAD stuff. =
I cleaned out
the Wrapper too and started from scratch there. The worst part of all =
this is
I always COE now. I can't even close a project without it crashing. I =
can save thankfully.
Any more suggestions?
Tom
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I think we're heading towards re-recording the drums (with a session drummer).
Probably easier and much better results! I guess we went with option 1!
Neil - drums are recorded across 12 channels (though probably unnecessary
to use them all). Not the greatest selection of mics, but that's the extent
of the mic cupboard:
AKG D112 inside Kick
Shure SM57 outside Kick (poorly positioned, however!)
Shure SM57 Snare top
Shure SM57 Snare bottom
2 x Studio Projects C4s as XY stereo overheads
AKG C1000s Ride
AKG C1000s Crash
AT4033a Hi Hat
AKG C418 Hi Tom
AKG C418 Mid Tom
AKG C418 Low Tom
As for qu 2: Guitar guitar recorded to a click; then guide vocals; then drums.
Then we''ll re-record everything (drums apart). A little long winded, but
getting the band in the same room together at the same time proved impossible.
Fortunately not a band politics issue - more a schedule thing!
Best wishes,
Dan
"John" <no@no.com> wrote:
>
>Quality
>Price
>Time
>
>Pick 2
>
>I love that he's a perfectionist with no money. Brilliant. Should be no
>shortage of people ready to take this project.
>
>"Neil" <IUOIU@OIU.com> wrote:
>>
>>Dan, just curious:
>>
>>a.) How many tracks are the drums themselves on?
>>b.) How did the singer record vocals to the drums only (i.e.:
>>with no pitch reference from any instruments)?
>>
>>Not that one question has anything to do with the other, but I
>>was just wondering.
>>
>>Neil
>>
>>
>>"dan b" <daniel_burneNOSPAM@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>Thanks for the responses guys. Fortunately the only thing that's been
tracked
>>>apart from drums is the vocals and some percussion, both of which were
>recorded
>>>to the click (although there may have been some drums in the monitor mix).
>>>I'm holding back on everything else because the groove needs to sit around
>>>the drums.
>>>Listening back again, the drum tracks aren't awful, but their not rock
>solid
>>>(enough). I suspect my problems with the editing are more to do with my
>>ineptitude
>>>as a drum editor than the size of the task. I suspect someone experienced
>>>with ProTools BeatMapper or Cubase SX3 could do a pretty speedy job.
>>>That said, I'm also looking into getting the parts re-drummed by a session
>>>pro, which may well be cheaper and produce better results (annoyingly
I've
>>>got kind of attached to the recorded sound of the existing tracks...).
>
>>>I'm just costing out options at the moment, so I'll let you all know how
>>>it pans out.
>>>Thanks,
>>>Dan
>>>
>>>"Neil" <OIUOIU@OIU.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>You & Aaron both make some good points... these guys could
>>>>EASILY spend more $$$ in edits than on re-tracking the whole
>>>>thing - and they still may have to retrack the "other than
>>>>drums" parts.
>>>>
>>>>These guys are picky & want to do it right, but can't nail it
>>>>themselves? Here's my advice in that scenario, FWTFIW:
>>>>
>>>>1.) get a MIDI track going with a rudimentary programmed drum
>>>>track for the rest of the guys to play with.
>>>>2.) once the basic rhythm tracks are done, have the drummer
>>>>play along with these, but mute the MIDI drums.
>>>>3.) Have someone who's got either PT with Beat Detective - or
>>>>something like CubaseV3 so they can create audio slices from
>>>>the hitpoints - edit the drummer's tracks to the MIDI groove.
>>>>They don't have to nail everything down perfectly locked if you
>>>>want it to swing a little.
>>>>
>>>>In this case, I think that'd be the best way to go... and
>>>>probably the least expensive, as well. Either way, you're
>>>>gonna have to retrack the other instruments if you edit the
>>>>drums - if theyr'e as off as much & as often as you say they
>>>>are.
>>>>
>>>>Neil
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>"Gantt Kushner" <ganttmann@comcast.net> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>Funny... I'm in the midst of a project in which I'm having to do much
>>drum
>>>>>editing, sometimes with a click, sometimes without. There were a few
>>tunes
>>>>>that needed so much repair that I convinced them to re-record them.
>I
>>>almost
>>>>>had them convinced to use a real studio drummer, but alas, they decided
>>>>that
>>>>>a band is a band, and the old drummer came back. He did better, but
>>he's
>>>>>still not a great studio player. There are so many little things that
>>>go
>>>>>into making what I consider to be a studio quality drum performance:
>
>>Good,
>>>>>consistant time; good consistant tone; a solid groove that makes the
>>>other
>>>>>musicians want to play their best; good taste when it comes to where
>>and
>>>>>when to play fills. I can fix timing, although sometimes the life of
>>the
>>>>>groove suffers, and I can fix the occasional less than stellar snare
>or
>>>>kick
>>>>>drum hit, but if I've learned nothing else in 19 years of doing this
>>for
>>>>>a living it's this: The best money anyone can spend on a project -
maybe
>>>>>even more important than the $$$ spent on the studio - is to hire the
>>very
>>>>>best studio drummer you can find!
>>>>>
>>>>>All that said, my first question would be - Is it possible to hire
a
>>better
>>>>>drum to come in and replace the existing drums? My guess is that it
>wouldn't
>>>>>be more expensive than hiring someone to edit the drums you already
have.
>>>>> I'd be happy to do it for you, but I charge $75 per hour and drum editing
>>>>>is painstaking work...
>>>>>
>>>>>Good luck!
>>>>>
>>>>>Gantt
>>>>>"dan b" <daniel_burneNOSPAM@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Hi,
>>>>>>I am interested in what services some of you may be able to offer in
>>relation
>>>>>>to multi-track drum editing.
>>>>>>Since I'm a
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n add firewire
>>audio perhaps), I wouldn't go off the shelf and expect great results -
>>motherboards are too fickle (e.g. you could get stuck with an chipset that
>>isn't going to work or a slow PCI buss, unless you go PCI-E, then it could
>>be a toss up until you test it in practice). Otherwise, TI firewire, DDR2,
>>SATA, etc should be fine, unless you go SATA raid.... (may work fine in
>>typical data storage, but with audio chipsets can be problematic if you
>run
>>really high track counts).
>>
>>Dedric
>>
>>On 9/26/06 11:49 AM, in article 45196819$1@linux, "TCB" <nobody@ishere.com>
>>wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Total crap. That's why I run a few hundred thousand dollars of Dell gear
>for
>>> a living at work,
>>>
>>> It's an integrated nVidia AMD chipset, I'll bet you hash brownies to
hash
>>> browns (or perl hashes) a TI firewire chip, DDR2 RAM, SATA drives. What's
>>> missing? Maybe upgrade My audio cards are firewire, I have one UAD-1
that
>>> I'll have to replace soon anyway with a PCI-E card, and I'll need it
less
>>> with the native f/x.
>>>
>>> TCB
>>>
>>> "Neil" <OIUOIU@OIU.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Do you think Dell would be a good DAW PC? I understand they're
>>>> decent, but often not very robust.
>>>>
>>>> Neil
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "TCB" <nobody@ishere.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Beat this config for anything near the price.
>>>>>
>>>>> http://tinyurl.com/q7shy
>>>>>
>>>>> TCB
>>>>
>>>
>>
>I seem to have discovered the trouble. While mixing my last album I had to
get a new dual head pci card. (old matrox agp card died.) Well it was no
problem mixing but it didn't like it when I started tracking pre pro for
our new cd. I bought a ati radeon 7000 agp card to replace the pci card
and all seems well.
I am thinking of getting a used magna pci to pci expansion chassis so I
can add two more monitors and maybee a third eds card.
Thanks to everyone who offered there help. I haden't been to this newsgroup
in quite a while and I was pleased to see I wasn't the only one in the world
still going strong with paris.
Steve L.
rick <parnell68@hotmail.com> wrote:
>i had this happen years ago and it was the power feed to the cd drive.
>this was the beginning of the end for the ps. for a temp fix try
>switching the power feed to the drive or disconnect it.
>
>On 25 Sep 2006 12:34:49 +1000, "Steve L." <slavii@aol.com> wrote:
>
>>
>>But would this only affect certain tracks or all track? My current project
>>is nine tracks. and only three are affected. And the old question of why
>>now all of a sudden after all these years? I'm gonna try pulling out one
>>of the eds cards to see if it's a power issue (I'm guessing more power
will
>>be availible to remaining eds card). If all is well with one eds card
what
>>are my options ? I have a pretty beefy power supply in it now. I guess
>>I could try to get an expansion chassis.
>>
>>
>>John <no@no.com> wrote:
>>>More wild speculation....
>>>
>>>If you are recording and your computer is close to 100% CPU power the
>>>simple checking the cdrom drive can cause clicks and pops at regular
>>>intervals...Also if a hard drive is sharing an IDE channel with a cdrom
>>
>>>and it checks for a cd in the drive then that hard drive cannot be accessed
>>>
>>>
>>>Steve L. wrote:
>>>> I imported the tracks into wavelab and had the same clicks. I don't
think
>>>> it's heat. Side of computer is open to cool room. Could be power related,
>>>> though it's wierd that it just happenend after all this time.
>>>>
>>>> John <no@no.com> wrote:
>>>>> heat and power supply
>>>>>
>>>>> Steve L. wrote:
>>>>
>On 25 Sep 2006 16:45:05 +1000, "Neil" <IOUOI@OIU.com> wrote:
>
>..check it:
>
>
> http://www.saqqararecords.com/images/IstanbulLiveDrumsRoughM P3.mp3
Nice kit. Also love the song - and this mix has plenty of bottom end,
which gives it a lot of power. For my taste, a lot of prog has what I
call the "Mike Stone Effect" - everything below roughly 150Hz seems to
be rolled off.
This one is plenty ballsy. I like it. Y'all got a followup to "Big
Buildings" coming soon?
pabAre you talking about the big Mark Lewisohn book with all the details of
each session? I love that thing. I loved the story about getting that
piercing guitar sound in "Ticket To Ride" I think it was, and how they got
in trouble for abusing the board. Hours of fun for Beatle babies.
S
"Gary Flanigan" <gary_flangian@ce9.uscourts.gov> wrote in message
news:4515d885$1@linux...
>
> Mine arrived today, and I am tempted to take a week off work to read it.
> It is huge, very thorough and detailed, and wonderful for those of us into
> engineering who have loved these recordings since they were released. If
> you have been tempted but wondering whether it is worth the price, dive
> in.
>Yes, I own The Rutles on DVD, as well as the complete soundtrack CD. Neil
Innes songs are like parallel universe Beatle songs, and he sounds amazingly
like John Lennon. It's interesting that "The Rutles" parallels the
documentary "The Compleat Beatles," because I believe "The Rutles" was made
first.
Anyway, great stuff. "I know you know what you are but you should know by
now that you're not me" - From Piggy In the Middle by the Rutles.
Sarah
"chuck duffy" <c@c.com> wrote in message news:45168d82$1@linux...
>
> I was just reminded of something, if any of you are even mildly beatles
> fans
> and haven't seen the ruttles, you really need to.
>
> ChuckHey, rockin'. Nothing like real drums. :)
S
"Neil" <IOUOI@OIU.com> wrote in message news:45177af1@linux...
>
> ..check it:
>
>
> http://www.saqqararecords.com/images/IstanbulLiveDrumsRoughM P3.mp3
>
>On Wed, 27 Sep 2006 17:41:27 -0500, Paul Braun
<cygnus_nospam@ctgonline.org> wrote:
>On 25 Sep 2006 16:45:05 +1000, "Neil" <IOUOI@OIU.com> wrote:
>
>>
>>..check it:
>>
>>
>> http://www.saqqararecords.com/images/IstanbulLiveDrumsRoughM P3.mp3
>
>
>Nice kit. Also love the song - and this mix has plenty of bottom end,
>which gives it a lot of power. For my taste, a lot of prog has what I
>call the "Mike Stone Effect" - everything below roughly 150Hz seems to
>be rolled off.
>
>This one is plenty ballsy. I like it. Y'all got a followup to "Big
>Buildings" coming soon?
>
>pab
And by the "Mike Stone Effect", I mean just listen to the first two
Asia albums and Whitesnake's followup to "Slide It In". "Slide" was
produced by Martin Birch, a guy who knew how to get that sound.
"Whitesnake" was produced by Stone, who completely glossed up and
neutered the whole damn thing.
I would pay good money to have anyone else remix the first two Asia
albums, since I know Wetton's bass is in there somewhere. And they
had Carl Freakin' Palmer on drums! Apparently without a kick...
I'd love to hear more of the new stuff when you feel like doling it
out, Neil.
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It's not crashing every time on exit. It was iffy when changing older
projects from internal to external clock. That may be the culprit
with the crashing. The question boxes still pop up when Paris
starts though. Annoying.
Tom
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I have a clean UAD-1 4.4 install after having removed all the UAD =
stuff. I cleaned out
the Wrapper too and started from scratch there. The worst part of all =
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I always COE now. I can't even close a project without it crashing. =
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Tom
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overheads and on a mix. I'm planning on learning it before I dis it.
At this stage I'd say the SSL 2 bus comp would be better for me I think.
Too bad I can't get that in software or can I?
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On Wed, 27 Sep 2006 12:09:06 -0400, "Don Nafe" <dnafe@magma.ca> wrote:
>The thing is with the exception of software and Audio interfaces these two
>machines are identical...
>
>go figure....
>
>
>wait we're talking MS here...
>
>
>never mind
>
>
>Don
>
>"rick" <parnell68@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>news:3t3lh2p5fmsf74k6eubdqmh1d39ufl3kuv@4ax.com...
>> honesty is it's own reward...why when i was growing up i was to poor
>> to steal...honestly...
>>
>> On Wed, 27 Sep 2006 08:51:38 -0400, "Don Nafe" <dnafe@magma.ca> wrote:
>>
>>>Speaking of computers...I just aquired two DVD burners in my latest
>>>upgrade
>>>and to install Nero on both machines I had to have DirectX 9.0 on each
>>>machine...as neither are connected to the internet I went to the MS site,
>>>jumped through their hoops and finally got the DirectX crap downloaded
>>>
>>>Woohoo!
>>>
>>>So I go to the machine which houses Paris and guess what...a flawless
>>>install of DX and Nero.
>>>
>>>Feeling all happy with myself I move over to the second machine which
>>>houses
>>>all my other apps and guess what, no sooner do the components of DirectX
>>>install....I get anotice...cannot proceed because
>>>
>>>
>>>Wait for it
>>>
>>>
>>>This program has not passed the MS windows logo compatability test or some
>>>such hog wash
>>>
>>>This is a totally legit machine and I get this crap
>>>
>>>Un-freakin'-believable!
>>>
>>>DOn
>>>
>>>
>>>"John" <no@no.com> wrote in message news:451a6be5$1@linux...
>>>>
>>>> Intel pledges 80-core chips in five years and Microsoft promises to have
>>>> it
>>>> run like a 386 on the day of release. heheh
>>>>
>>>> http://www.builderau.com.au/news/soa/Intel_pledges_80_core_c hips_in_five_years/0,339028227,339271320,00.htm
>>>
>>
>Hi to all.
Thats good news for us Parisians.
Matt Craig has contacted me about his reverb and some other goodies !!! and
he told me some things that are only good news.
I will leave it up to him to decide when an what to announce.
Happy Paris to everyone.
Regards,
DimitriosTom, FWIW, I if I change a project from internal to word clock, I have to
reboot every time.
Rod
"Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>
>It's not crashing every time on exit. It was iffy when changing older
>projects from internal to external clock. That may be the culprit
>with the crashing. The question boxes still pop up when Paris
>starts though. Annoying.
>Tom
>
>
>
>
>
> "Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote in message =
>news:451ac0cf@linux...
> I did everything Rod suggested. All plugins work. That's the good =
>part.
> The bad part is that as Paris starts up it still gives me a pop up =
>saying:
> "Wrapper cannot find Pultec-Pro mono/stereo. You may have removed =
>these
> plugins. We suggest you replace them and blah blah blah..."
>
> I have a clean UAD-1 4.4 install after having removed all the UAD =
>stuff. I cleaned out
> the Wrapper too and started from scratch there. The worst part of all
=
>this is
> I always COE now. I can't even close a project without it crashing.
=
>I can save thankfully.
>
> Any more suggestions?
> Tom
>
> =20
>
>
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><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>It's not crashing every time on =
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>boxes still=20
>pop up when Paris</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>starts though. =
>Annoying.</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Tom</FONT></DIV>
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> <DIV>"Tom Bruhl" <<A=20
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> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I did everything Rod suggested. =
>All plugins=20
> work. That's the good part.</FONT></DIV>
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>up it still=20
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>them and=20
> blah blah blah..."</FONT></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I have a clean UAD-1 4.4 install =
>after having=20
> removed all the UAD stuff. I cleaned out</FONT></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>the Wrapper too and started from =
>scratch=20
> there. The worst part of all this is</FONT></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I always COE now. I can't even =
>close a=20
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> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Any more suggestions?</FONT></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Tom</FONT></DIV>
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>
>teaser ! latency compensation ???????? Say yes !
"Dimitrios" <musurgio@otenet.gr> wrote:
>
>Hi to all.
>Thats good news for us Parisians.
>Matt Craig has contacted me about his reverb and some other goodies !!!
and
>he told me some things that are only good news.
>I will leave it up to him to decide when an what to announce.
>Happy Paris to everyone.
>Regards,
>DimitriosI have suddenly come to a realization... You PC guys are able to use the
new UAD-1 plugins in Paris!!! Can you also run the newer Waves plugins,
like the IR-1 and IR-L?
On Mac the new versions of both only run in OS 10, which leaves us Mac Paris
users in the dust. Maybe, instead of switching to a new DAW I just need
to switch to PC!
Hard to imagine after 18 years of being a Mac guy.
What would a smokin' PC to run Paris on cost me to put togther? Which Windows
OS do you guys run? Is the learning curve as scary as I think it'll be?
Am I totally crazy to be even thinking about this?
GanttOr, is there a chance that some very bright Mac programmer can create a VST
wrapper to allow OS 10 plugins to function in OS 9?
gantt
"Gantt Kushner" <ganttmann@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>I have suddenly come to a realization... You PC guys are able to use the
>new UAD-1 plugins in Paris!!! Can you also run the newer Waves plugins,
>like the IR-1 and IR-L?
>On Mac the new versions of both only run in OS 10, which leaves us Mac Paris
>users in the dust. Maybe, instead of switching to a new DAW I just need
>to switch to PC!
>
>Hard to imagine after 18 years of being a Mac guy.
>
>What would a smokin' PC to run Paris on cost me to put togther? Which Windows
>OS do you guys run? Is the learning curve as scary as I think it'll be?
> Am I totally crazy to be even thinking about this?
>
>Ganttwhat the **** is happening on the PARIS master.
lately i have been running back into Nuendo where i generally eq and
compress the final stereo mix.
NOW... i am not squashing to death the final stereo mix, generally speaking.
:-)
i only use a compressor set in dual mono... not stereo linking... as this
gives me a noticeably increase in width.
i listened back to some mixes i did without this method. the final was
either printed in paris, meaning actually bounced in paris. OR the paris
master was sent via spdif back to Nuendo for a bounce... same thing i do now
without eq and compression on the return input to Nuendo.
upon listening back to those mixes... i prompty wanted to throw up!!!
because they were so much bigger and wider than my current method. was it
just those songs were better produced? has the most recent stuff i mixed
just been lacking in attention to detail from the producer? or is it
because of the freekin paris bus mojo magic enhancer thingy?
here is why i quit doing the paris bus bounce. i was tired of getting sawed
off waveforms. thats it. is that ridiculous or what?
sawed off waveforms are bad right?
WTF?Christmas in September............coooooooool......!!!
"John" <no@no.com> wrote in message news:451bc776$1@linux...
>
> teaser ! latency compensation ???????? Say yes !
>
> "Dimitrios" <musurgio@otenet.gr> wrote:
>>
>>Hi to all.
>>Thats good news for us Parisians.
>>Matt Craig has contacted me about his reverb and some other goodies !!!
> and
>>he told me some things that are only good news.
>>I will leave it up to him to decide when an what to announce.
>>Happy Paris to everyone.
>>Regards,
>>Dimitrios
>"Jeremy Luzier" <j.luzier@comcast.net> wrote:
>what the **** is happening on the PARIS master.
>
>lately i have been running back into Nuendo where i generally eq and
>compress the final stereo mix.
>
>NOW... i am not squashing to death the final stereo mix, generally speaking.
>:-)
>
>i only use a compressor set in dual mono... not stereo linking... as this
>gives me a noticeably increase in width.
>
>i listened back to some mixes i did without this method. the final was
>either printed in paris, meaning actually bounced in paris. OR the paris
>master was sent via spdif back to Nuendo for a bounce... same thing i do
now
>without eq and compression on the return input to Nuendo.
>
>upon listening back to those mixes... i prompty wanted to throw up!!!
>
>because they were so much bigger and wider than my current method. was
it
>just those songs were better produced? has the most recent stuff i mixed
>just been lacking in attention to detail from the producer? or is it
>because of the freekin paris bus mojo magic enhancer thingy?
>
>here is why i quit doing the paris bus bounce. i was tired of getting sawed
>off waveforms. thats it. is that ridiculous or what?
>
>sawed off waveforms are bad right?
>
>WTF?
>
Its the freekin paris bus mojo magic enhancer thingy.
Well put
GeneRoom for an extra drive, or to replace the current one. 750 GB drives are
an option now, and a RAID 5 NAS unit is probably a better idea then keeping
everything locally anyway. The machine in question has two PCI slots and
one PCI-E.
I'm 99% sure I'm going to do this, I'll keep people here posted.
TCB
"macle" <Mates9999@cs.com> wrote:
>
>I don't want to bet against you. In fact, if it works out great,
>I'd probably copy you.
>
>I've been trying to figure out what to get for a new PC, and I
>find the whole thing very much a drag (if I were richer, I
>suppose I would get some overpriced pre-configured audio
>computer).
>
>Pro Tools has computer recommendations, and some Dell worksations are listed,
>which end up being around $3500!
>
>How many PCI slots are there? I was thinking I would want to use
>the new computer for Paris as well as a native firewire setup,
>but now I'm thinking to screw that. So I'd really only need
>a slot for a UAD card I guess.
>
>Can you add 1 or 2 extra hard drives?
>
>
>"TCB" <nobody@ishere.com> wrote:
>>
>>How long ago was this? I used to shy away from some 'commodity' manufacturers
>>but when I look under the hood these days it looks like they're using nearly
>>identical core chipsets to the ASUS and Chaintechs of the world. The differences
>>are in extras, gigabit networking, Promise SATA controllers, stuff like
>that.
>>
>>
>>Maybe I'll test the theory. My old audio machine (an old Athlon box) is
>in
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The price will be 1799 !!! plus shipping.
I test them for hours and hours and test several tubes for it.
There will be also a version with a substitute tube which is THE SAme AS
ef14 TUBE but has not the hype with all that literature with it.
The sound is THE SAME.
Nothing changes in the circuitry not even a small change anywhere, just this
tube will be called Muse14 and will include a spare one with every mic, both
NOS.
This mic will sell for 1599.
Regards,
Dimitrios
ps: Don't get confused with Peluso U47 because he uses CHINESE capsules
If you want a special Muse47 with a chinese capsule you can get one for 999.
"DJ" <notachance@net.net> wrote:
>Go to AES and compare these mics-
>
>[url] http://telefunkenusa.com/products/show_product.php?item=7&am p;cat=mics[/url
>]
>
>At $7500.00 (for the VF-14 model), it's $2000.00 more than the Wunderaudio
>U47 clone.
>
>http://www.wunderaudio.com/CM7product.html
>
>Mike Castoro at Wunderaudio has a bunch of old '47's and I'm sure Telefunken
>has a few in their closet. I wonder if they will have originals available
to
>A/B with the clones? (and yeah..I know the old ones all sound different
so
>what's the use-still I'm interested)?
>
>Call me afterwoard and tell me which one I will have to have or I'll die.
>
>
>
>
>gene-
you do this right?... print back to DP, or Logic, using eq and/or
compression on the input return.
have you ever thrown up listening to the 'old way'?
jeremyHow about this one instead?
http://www.circuitcity.com/ssm/HP-Pavilion-Media-Center-Desk top-PC-A1600N/sem/rpsm/oid/160199/catOid/-12962/rpem/ccd/pro ductDetail.do
"TCB" <nobody@ishere.com> wrote:
>
>Room for an extra drive, or to replace the current one. 750 GB drives are
>an option now, and a RAID 5 NAS unit is probably a better idea then keeping
>everything locally anyway. The machine in question has two PCI slots and
>one PCI-E.
>
>I'm 99% sure I'm going to do this, I'll keep people here posted.
>
>TCB
>
>"macle" <Mates9999@cs.com> wrote:
>>
>>I don't want to bet against you. In fact, if it works out great,
>>I'd probably copy you.
>>
>>I've been trying to figure out what to get for a new PC, and I
>>find the whole thing very much a drag (if I were richer, I
>>suppose I would get some overpriced pre-configured audio
>>computer).
>>
>>Pro Tools has computer recommendations, and some Dell worksations are listed,
>>which end up being around $3500!
>>
>>How many PCI slots are there? I was thinking I would want to use
>>the new computer for Paris as well as a native firewire setup,
>>but now I'm thinking to screw that. So I'd really only need
>>a slot for a UAD card I guess.
>>
>>Can you add 1 or 2 extra hard drives?
>>
>>
>>"TCB" <nobody@ishere.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>How long ago was this? I used to shy away from some 'commodity' manufacturers
>>>but when I look under the hood these days it looks like they're using
nearly
>>>identical core chipsets to the ASUS and Chaintechs of the world. The differences
>>>are in extras, gigabit networking, Promise SATA controllers, stuff like
>>that.
>>>
>>>
>>>Maybe I'll test the theory. My old audio machine (an old Athlon box) is
>>in
>>>bad shape. I was going to hold out for a fancy quad core but maybe I'll
>>snap
>>>up one of these Dells and see if I can make into an audio box.
>>>
>>>Anybody want to bet against me?
>>>
>>>TCB
>>>
>>>Dedric Terry <dterry@keyofd.net> wrote:
>>>>I think it depends on the use and the model. We had a Dell for video
>>>>editing at a previous job - tried to add a new video card to get a dual
>>>>display and it caused nothing but headaches, but I attributed that to
>a
>>>>cheap motherboard more than anything (everything in this model was cheap/not
>>>>industry standard).
>>>>
>>>>I built a custom system for them and it ran great.
>>>>
>>>>If you are mixing RME cards (or others even) and UAD-1s (then add firewire
>>>>audio perhaps), I wouldn't go off the shelf and expect great results
-
>>>>motherboards are too fickle (e.g. you could get stuck with an chipset
>that
>>>>isn't going to work or a slow PCI buss, unless you go PCI-E, then it
could
>>>>be a toss up until you test it in practice). Otherwise, TI firewire,
>DDR2,
>>>>SATA, etc should be fine, unless you go SATA raid.... (may work fine
in
>>>>typical data storage, but with audio chipsets can be problematic if you
>>>run
>>>>really high track counts).
>>>>
>>>>Dedric
>>>>
>>>>On 9/26/06 11:49 AM, in article 45196819$1@linux, "TCB" <nobody@ishere.com>
>>>>wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Total crap. That's why I run a few hundred thousand dollars of Dell
>gear
>>>for
>>>>> a living at work,
>>>>>
>>>>> It's an integrated nVidia AMD chipset, I'll bet you hash brownies to
>>hash
>>>>> browns (or perl hashes) a TI firewire chip, DDR2 RAM, SATA drives.
What's
>>>>> missing? Maybe upgrade My audio cards are firewire, I have one UAD-1
>>that
>>>>> I'll have to replace soon anyway with a PCI-E card, and I'll need it
>>less
>>>>> with the native f/x.
>>>>>
>>>>> TCB
>>>>>
>>>>> "Neil" <OIUOIU@OIU.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Do you think Dell would be a good DAW PC? I understand they're
>>>>>> decent, but often not very robust.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Neil
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "TCB" <nobody@ishere.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Beat this config for anything near the price.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> http://tinyurl.com/q7shy
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> TCB
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>Paul Braun <cygnus_nospam@ctgonline.org> wrote:
>This one is plenty ballsy. I like it. Y'all got a followup
>to "Big Buildings" coming soon?
Yes, finally! Now that I can do it right with real drums
(or "better", at least LOL).
Thanks for the compliments - I'm pretty happy with the way that
one turned out - a few mix tweaks & maybe a drum edit or two &
it should be there. Started working on replacing the e-drums on
another tune last night - trying to work out the parts.
Neil"Jeremy Luzier" <j.luzier@comcast.net> wrote:
>gene-
>
>you do this right?... print back to DP, or Logic, using eq and/or
>compression on the input return.
>
>have you ever thrown up listening to the 'old way'?
>
>jeremy
>
>
>
Yes I do this. My current mix config splits the digital output from Paris.
One set goes through two channels of my Mytek D/A converters , then into
my Mellennia NESEQ-2 then into a Portico 5043 then back into Mytek/Mac for
recording the 2-track. The second pair goes direct 24bit SPDIF out of Paris
into the Mac and records the 2-track mix simultaneously without the analog
“mastering”.
Gene"Dimitrios" <musurgio@otenet.gr> wrote:
>
>Dear DJ,
>My microphones (need a couple of months for final completed mic and accessories)
>will have the EF14 tube like the wunderaudio will have the ORIGINAL K47
capsule
>(reskinned from a Neumann tech) NOT CHINES CLONE capsules like the Peluso
>, I will add 8 polar patern to my U47 will be called mUse47 and has a wonderful
>sound.
>I already record with my prototype !!
>The price will be 1799 !!! plus shipping.
>I test them for hours and hours and test several tubes for it.
>There will be also a version with a substitute tube which is THE SAme AS
>ef14 TUBE but has not the hype with all that literature with it.
>The sound is THE SAME.
>Nothing changes in the circuitry not even a small change anywhere, just
this
>tube will be called Muse14 and will include a spare one with every mic,
both
>NOS.
>This mic will sell for 1599.
>Regards,
>Dimitrios
>
This looks like it could be a winner. When do we get to hear some tracks?
GeneJust be careful if the present is from JustCron :-)
"Robert Arsenault" <studiomanitou@gmail.com> wrote:
>Christmas in September............coooooooool......!!!
>
>
>"John" <no@no.com> wrote in message news:451bc776$1@linux...
>>
>> teaser ! latency compensation ???????? Say yes !
>>
>> "Dimitrios" <musurgio@otenet.gr> wrote:
>>>
>>>Hi to all.
>>>Thats good news for us Parisians.
>>>Matt Craig has contacted me about his reverb and some other goodies !!!
>> and
>>>he told me some things that are only good news.
>>>I will leave it up to him to decide when an what to announce.
>>>Happy Paris to everyone.
>>>Regards,
>>>Dimitrios
>>
>
>I am strongly considering building myself a new box and making the switch
from 98 to xp. Is there a list of moterboards (or any other hardware) that
works best in running paris on XP. I will only use this computer to run
Paris. And if I have a system with 2 eds cards, one mec, one c16, is it
worth it for me to switch to XP ?
I rarely have projects with more than 32 tracks.
Thanks,
Steve L.The cool thing about this is that by the time the 80 core chips are
realease, the prices will drop on the 60 core chips and I will be able to
afford one.
;o)
"John" <no@no.com> wrote in message news:451a6be5$1@linux...
>
> Intel pledges 80-core chips in five years and Microsoft promises to have
it
> run like a 386 on the day of release. heheh
>
>
http://www.builderau.com.au/news/soa/Intel_pledges_80_core_c hips_in_five_yea
rs/0,339028227,339271320,00.htm"Sarah" <sarahjane@sarahtonin.com> wrote:
>Are you talking about the big Mark Lewisohn book with all the details of
>each session?
No, this is a completely new book, listing all the equipment, how it was
used, etc. Really an incredible effort. The form factor of the book is
the size of a box of 2" multitrack tape, and it weighs about 12 pounds.
http://www.recordingthebeatles.com/A bit hard to find these days, and a bit "old school", but they are still
out there.
Gigabyte K8NS Ultra 939. Works like a charm with XP and 4 EDS cards, and
two dual-head Nvidia VGA's.
I Highly recommend it. No problems with IRQ's etc, just plug in
all cards, and install XP. Easy.
Kim
"Steve L." <slavii@aol.com> wrote:
>
>I am strongly considering building myself a new box and making the switch
>from 98 to xp. Is there a list of moterboards (or any other hardware) that
>works best in running paris on XP. I will only use this computer to run
>Paris. And if I have a system with 2 eds cards, one mec, one c16, is it
>worth it for me to switch to XP ?
> I rarely have projects with more than 32 tracks.
>
>Thanks,
>
>Steve L.>or is it because of the freekin paris bus mojo magic enhancer thingy
One of the features of the Paris mix bus that is not in the manual is the
fact that it is the only digital system that can induce euphoric vomiting. .
;o)
"Jeremy Luzier" <j.luzier@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:451bc9ab$1@linux...
> what the **** is happening on the PARIS master.
>
> lately i have been running back into Nuendo where i generally eq and
> compress the final stereo mix.
>
> NOW... i am not squashing to death the final stereo mix, generally
speaking.
> :-)
>
> i only use a compressor set in dual mono... not stereo linking... as this
> gives me a noticeably increase in width.
>
> i listened back to some mixes i did without this method. the final was
> either printed in paris, meaning actually bounced in paris. OR the paris
> master was sent via spdif back to Nuendo for a bounce... same thing i do
now
> without eq and compression on the return input to Nuendo.
>
> upon listening back to those mixes... i prompty wanted to throw up!!!
>
> because they were so much bigger and wider than my current method. was it
> just those songs were better produced? has the most recent stuff i mixed
> just been lacking in attention to detail from the producer? or is it
> because of the freekin paris bus mojo magic enhancer thingy?
>
> here is why i quit doing the paris bus bounce. i was tired of getting
sawed
> off waveforms. thats it. is that ridiculous or what?
>
> sawed off waveforms are bad right?
>
> WTF?
>
>He Dimitrios,
Can you do an M7 capsule?
Deej
"Dimitrios" <musurgio@otenet.gr> wrote in message news:451bd729$1@linux...
>
> Dear DJ,
> My microphones (need a couple of months for final completed mic and
accessories)
> will have the EF14 tube like the wunderaudio will have the ORIGINAL K47
capsule
> (reskinned from a Neumann tech) NOT CHINES CLONE capsules like the Peluso
> , I will add 8 polar patern to my U47 will be called mUse47 and has a
wonderful
> sound.
> I already record with my prototype !!
> The price will be 1799 !!! plus shipping.
> I test them for hours and hours and test several tubes for it.
> There will be also a version with a substitute tube which is THE SAme AS
> ef14 TUBE but has not the hype with all that literature with it.
> The sound is THE SAME.
> Nothing changes in the circuitry not even a small change anywhere, just
this
> tube will be called Muse14 and will include a spare one with every mic,
both
> NOS.
> This mic will sell for 1599.
> Regards,
> Dimitrios
>
> ps: Don't get confused with Peluso U47 because he uses CHINESE capsules
> If you want a special Muse47 with a chinese capsule you can get one for
999.
> "DJ" <notachance@net.net> wrote:
> >Go to AES and compare these mics-
> >
>
>[url] http://telefunkenusa.com/products/show_product.php?item=7&am p;cat=mics[/ur
l
> >]
> >
> >At $7500.00 (for the VF-14 model), it's $2000.00 more than the
Wunderaudio
> >U47 clone.
> >
> >http://www.wunderaudio.com/CM7product.html
> >
> >Mike Castoro at Wunderaudio has a bunch of old '47's and I'm sure
Telefunken
> >has a few in their closet. I wonder if they will have originals available
> to
> >A/B with the clones? (and yeah..I know the old ones all sound different
> so
> >what's the use-still I'm interested)?
> >
> >Call me afterwoard and tell me which one I will have to have or I'll die.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>Did you ever smoke those roaches? Did they object?
;o)
"John" <no@no.com> wrote in message news:451be21f$1@linux...
>
> Just be careful if the present is from JustCron :-)
>
> "Robert Arsenault" <studiomanitou@gmail.com> wrote:
> >Christmas in September............coooooooool......!!!
> >
> >
> >"John" <no@no.com> wrote in message news:451bc776$1@linux...
> >>
> >> teaser ! latency compensation ???????? Say yes !
> >>
> >> "Dimitrios" <musurgio@otenet.gr> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>Hi to all.
> >>>Thats good news for us Parisians.
> >>>Matt Craig has contacted me about his reverb and some other goodies !!!
> >> and
> >>>he told me some things that are only good news.
> >>>I will leave it up to him to decide when an what to announce.
> >>>Happy Paris to everyone.
> >>>Regards,
> >>>Dimitrios
> >>
> >
> >
>Really? I've been waiting for you to give this mobo your blessing. Last post
I saw from you about it, the jury was still deliberating. So it's good then?
Thanks,
Deej
"Kim W." <no@way.com> wrote in message news:451bed49$1@linux...
>
> A bit hard to find these days, and a bit "old school", but they are still
> out there.
> Gigabyte K8NS Ultra 939. Works like a charm with XP and 4 EDS cards, and
> two dual-head Nvidia VGA's.
> I Highly recommend it. No problems with IRQ's etc, just plug in
> all cards, and install XP. Easy.
>
> Kim
>
> "Steve L." <slavii@aol.com> wrote:
> >
> >I am strongly considering building myself a new box and making the switch
> >from 98 to xp. Is there a list of moterboards (or any other hardware)
that
> >works best in running paris on XP. I will only use this computer to run
> >Paris. And if I have a system with 2 eds cards, one mec, one c16, is it
> >worth it for me to switch to XP ?
> > I rarely have projects with more than 32 tracks.
> >
> >Thanks,
> >
> >Steve L.
>I agree Paul. I loved the songs on those Asia albums, but they sound like
complete crap! I also think in general, they were way to reverb heavy. I
would love it if someone would do a good "proper" remix.
Tony
"Paul Braun" <cygnus_nospam@ctgonline.org> wrote in message
news:9ajmh2dv7jajm097dgjju2f0u851ukvl5o@4ax.com...
> On Wed, 27 Sep 2006 17:41:27 -0500, Paul Braun
> <cygnus_nospam@ctgonline.org> wrote:
>
>>On 25 Sep 2006 16:45:05 +1000, "Neil" <IOUOI@OIU.com> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>..check it:
>>>
>>>
>>> http://www.saqqararecords.com/images/IstanbulLiveDrumsRoughM P3.mp3
>>
>>
>>Nice kit. Also love the song - and this mix has plenty of bottom end,
>>which gives it a lot of power. For my taste, a lot of prog has what I
>>call the "Mike Stone Effect" - everything below roughly 150Hz seems to
>>be rolled off.
>>
>>This one is plenty ballsy. I like it. Y'all got a followup to "Big
>>Buildings" coming soon?
>>
>>pab
>
> And by the "Mike Stone Effect", I mean just listen to the first two
> Asia albums and Whitesnake's followup to "Slide It In". "Slide" was
> produced by Martin Birch, a guy who knew how to get that sound.
> "Whitesnake" was produced by Stone, who completely glossed up and
> neutered the whole damn thing.
>
> I would pay good money to have anyone else remix the first two Asia
> albums, since I know Wetton's bass is in there somewhere. And they
> had Carl Freakin' Palmer on drums! Apparently without a kick...
>
> I'd love to hear more of the new stuff when you feel like doling it
> out, Neil.
>
> pab
>No problems with IRQs? What fun is that? Is 4 the most Paris can go before
a Magma chassis is needed? So how are the IRQs on the Magma again with 8
eds cards? It has one PCI interface card that goes in the host pc and it
uses 2(?) irqs and the chassis shares those two across the 8 cards? How
does that work?
Thanks,
John
"Kim W." <no@way.com> wrote:
>
>A bit hard to find these days, and a bit "old school", but they are still
>out there.
>Gigabyte K8NS Ultra 939. Works like a charm with XP and 4 EDS cards, and
>two dual-head Nvidia VGA's.
>I Highly recommend it. No problems with IRQ's etc, just plug in
>all cards, and install XP. Easy.
>
>Kim
>
>"Steve L." <slavii@aol.com> wrote:
>>
>>I am strongly considering building myself a new box and making the switch
>>from 98 to xp. Is there a list of moterboards (or any other hardware)
that
>>works best in running paris on XP. I will only use this computer to run
>>Paris. And if I have a system with 2 eds cards, one mec, one c16, is it
>>worth it for me to switch to XP ?
>> I rarely have projects with more than 32 tracks.
>>
>>Thanks,
>>
>>Steve L.
>How about sharing some tidbits?
"Gary Flanigan" <gary_flangian@ce9.uscourts.gov> wrote:
>
>"Sarah" <sarahjane@sarahtonin.com> wrote:
>>Are you talking about the big Mark Lewisohn book with all the details of
>
>>each session?
>
>No, this is a completely new book, listing all the equipment, how it was
>used, etc. Really an incredible effort. The form factor of the book is
>the size of a box of 2" multitrack tape, and it weighs about 12 pounds.
>
>
>http://www.recordingthebeatles.com/
>OH YEAH!
The most stable Paris box I've had.
No need to massage Paris XP into working either. It just
worked with, as I said, all cards in place, and installing XP,
letting it's own IRQ assignment do its stuff.
Only using SP1, though. Haven't needed SP2.
Kim
"DJ" <notachance@net.net> wrote:
>Really? I've been waiting for you to give this mobo your blessing. Last
post
>I saw from you about it, the jury was still deliberating. So it's good then?
>
>Thanks,
>
>Deej
>
>"Kim W." <no@way.com> wrote in message news:451bed49$1@linux...
>>
>> A bit hard to find these days, and a bit "old school", but they are still
>> out there.
>> Gigabyte K8NS Ultra 939. Works like a charm with XP and 4 EDS cards, and
>> two dual-head Nvidia VGA's.
>> I Highly recommend it. No problems with IRQ's etc, just plug in
>> all cards, and install XP. Easy.
>>
>> Kim
>>
>> "Steve L." <slavii@aol.com> wrote:
>> >
>> >I am strongly considering building myself a new box and making the switch
>> >from 98 to xp. Is there a list of moterboards (or any other hardware)
>that
>> >works best in running paris on XP. I will only use this computer to
run
>> >Paris. And if I have a system with 2 eds cards, one mec, one c16, is
it
>> >worth it for me to switch to XP ?
>> > I rarely have projects with more than 32 tracks.
>> >
>> >Thanks,
>> >
>> >Steve L.
>>
>
>Hi John.
Never used a Magma. I reckon you could probably even get 5 EDS's
working, but I need 4 monitors, so one of the pci slots has a
Nvidia Quadro in it.
Kim
"John" <no@no.com> wrote:
>
>No problems with IRQs? What fun is that? Is 4 the most Paris can go before
>a Magma chassis is needed? So how are the IRQs on the Magma again with
8
>eds cards? It has one PCI interface card that goes in the host pc and it
>uses 2(?) irqs and the chassis shares those two across the 8 cards? How
>does that work?
>
>Thanks,
>John
>
>
>
>
>"Kim W." <no@way.com> wrote:
>>
>>A bit hard to find these days, and a bit "old school", but they are still
>>out there.
>>Gigabyte K8NS Ultra 939. Works like a charm with XP and 4 EDS cards, and
>>two dual-head Nvidia VGA's.
>>I Highly recommend it. No problems with IRQ's etc, just plug in
>>all cards, and install XP. Easy.
>>
>>Kim
>>
>>"Steve L." <slavii@aol.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>I am strongly considering building myself a new box and making the switch
>>>from 98 to xp. Is there a list of moterboards (or any other hardware)
>that
>>>works best in running paris on XP. I will only use this computer to run
>>>Paris. And if I have a system with 2 eds cards, one mec, one c16, is
it
>>>worth it for me to switch to XP ?
>>> I rarely have projects with more than 32 tracks.
>>>
>>>Thanks,
>>>
>>>Steve L.
>>
>Greetings Everyone!
I know this is in reference to an "oldish" post, but I was wondering if many
people downloaded these files. I did, but never got around to messing with a
remix. Anyway, I was wondering what people's thoughts were on these tracks.
I like Peter Gabriel, and always though his albums/CD's sounded great. I
assumed the raw tracks would be "pristine", but soloing these tracks, you
can hear all kinds of buzzing, hiss, and just a real noisy noise in general.
I'm wondering if anyone else was surprised by this. I still think his stuff
sounds great, it just threw me a little that the individual tracks would be
so noisy. Comments?
Tony
----- Original Message -----
From: "Neil" <OIUOIU@OIU.com>
Newsgroups: IDEA.EMUEnsoniqPARIS
Sent: Thursday, July 06, 2006 12:20 AM
Subject: OT: Ever Wanted to remix a Peter Gabriel song?
>
> You can remix "Shock The Monkey" (plus some other RealWorld
> artists' stuff), and maybe win a nice prize...
>
> Here's my "Monkey" remix:
>
> http://www.realworldremixed.com/remix.php?remix_id=pPgmQ9h0V WL6O94what power supply are you useing ?
"Kim W." <no@way.com> wrote:
>
>A bit hard to find these days, and a bit "old school", but they are still
>out there.
>Gigabyte K8NS Ultra 939. Works like a charm with XP and 4 EDS cards, and
>two dual-head Nvidia VGA's.
>I Highly recommend it. No problems with IRQ's etc, just plug in
>all cards, and install XP. Easy.
>
>Kim
>
>"Steve L." <slavii@aol.com> wrote:
>>
>>I am strongly considering building myself a new box and making the switch
>>from 98 to xp. Is there a list of moterboards (or any other hardware)
that
>>works best in running paris on XP. I will only use this computer to run
>>Paris. And if I have a system with 2 eds cards, one mec, one c16, is it
>>worth it for me to switch to XP ?
>> I rarely have projects with more than 32 tracks.
>>
>>Thanks,
>>
>>Steve L.
>Ahhhh.....HA!!! ....sooooo....... you're using 4 monitors as well? I missed
that. What kind of dual heads are you using? GEForce 5500's?
BTW, your foray into wretched exess and componentry sluttage has made me
proud.
;o)
"Kim W" <no@way.com> wrote in message news:451bfec7$1@linux...
>
> Hi John.
> Never used a Magma. I reckon you could probably even get 5 EDS's
> working, but I need 4 monitors, so one of the pci slots has a
> Nvidia Quadro in it.
> Kim
>
> "John" <no@no.com> wrote:
> >
> >No problems with IRQs? What fun is that? Is 4 the most Paris can go
before
> >a Magma chassis is needed? So how are the IRQs on the Magma again with
> 8
> >eds cards? It has one PCI interface card that goes in the host pc and it
> >uses 2(?) irqs and the chassis shares those two across the 8 cards? How
> >does that work?
> >
> >Thanks,
> >John
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >"Kim W." <no@way.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>A bit hard to find these days, and a bit "old school", but they are
still
> >>out there.
> >>Gigabyte K8NS Ultra 939. Works like a charm with XP and 4 EDS cards, and
> >>two dual-head Nvidia VGA's.
> >>I Highly recommend it. No problems with IRQ's etc, just plug in
> >>all cards, and install XP. Easy.
> >>
> >>Kim
> >>
> >>"Steve L." <slavii@aol.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>I am strongly considering building myself a new box and making the
switch
> >>>from 98 to xp. Is there a list of moterboards (or any other hardware)
> >that
> >>>works best in running paris on XP. I will only use this computer to
run
> >>>Paris. And if I have a system with 2 eds cards, one mec, one c16, is
> it
> >>>worth it for me to switch to XP ?
> >>> I rarely have projects with more than 32 tracks.
> >>>
> >>>Thanks,
> >>>
> >>>Steve L.
> >>
> >
>..........and what CPU are you using?
"Steve L." <slavii@aol.com> wrote in message news:451c0bdf$1@linux...
>
> what power supply are you useing ?
>
> "Kim W." <no@way.com> wrote:
> >
> >A bit hard to find these days, and a bit "old school", but they are still
> >out there.
> >Gigabyte K8NS Ultra 939. Works like a charm with XP and 4 EDS cards, and
> >two dual-head Nvidia VGA's.
> >I Highly recommend it. No problems with IRQ's etc, just plug in
> >all cards, and install XP. Easy.
> >
> >Kim
> >
> >"Steve L." <slavii@aol.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>I am strongly considering building myself a new box and making the
switch
> >>from 98 to xp. Is there a list of moterboards (or any other hardware)
> that
> >>works best in running paris on XP. I will only use this computer to run
> >>Paris. And if I have a system with 2 eds cards, one mec, one c16, is it
> >>worth it for me to switch to XP ?
> >> I rarely have projects with more than 32 tracks.
> >>
> >>Thanks,
> >>
> >>Steve L.
> >
>Hi, DJ.
They are the original Quadros. (NVS 280 I think..)
Would have to check. Got them some time ago on ebay for next to
nothing. These are/were available in PCI and AGP.
Yes, sluttage is good!
Kim
"DJ" <notachance@net.net> wrote:
>Ahhhh.....HA!!! ....sooooo....... you're using 4 monitors as well? I missed
>that. What kind of dual heads are you using? GEForce 5500's?
> BTW, your foray into wretched exess and componentry sluttage has made me
>proud.
>
>;o)
>
>"Kim W" <no@way.com> wrote in message news:451bfec7$1@linux...
>>
>> Hi John.
>> Never used a Magma. I reckon you could probably even get 5 EDS's
>> working, but I need 4 monitors, so one of the pci slots has a
>> Nvidia Quadro in it.
>> Kim
>>
>> "John" <no@no.com> wrote:
>> >
>> >No problems with IRQs? What fun is that? Is 4 the most Paris can go
>before
>> >a Magma chassis is needed? So how are the IRQs on the Magma again with
>> 8
>> >eds cards? It has one PCI interface card that goes in the host pc and
it
>> >uses 2(?) irqs and the chassis shares those two across the 8 cards?
How
>> >does that work?
>> >
>> >Thanks,
>> >John
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >"Kim W." <no@way.com> wrote:
>> >>
>> >>A bit hard to find these days, and a bit "old school", but they are
>still
>> >>out there.
>> >>Gigabyte K8NS Ultra 939. Works like a charm with XP and 4 EDS cards,
and
>> >>two dual-head Nvidia VGA's.
>> >>I Highly recommend it. No problems with IRQ's etc, just plug in
>> >>all cards, and install XP. Easy.
>> >>
>> >>Kim
>> >>
>> >>"Steve L." <slavii@aol.com> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>>I am strongly considering building myself a new box and making the
>switch
>> >>>from 98 to xp. Is there a list of moterboards (or any other hardware)
>> >that
>> >>>works best in running paris on XP. I will only use this computer to
>run
>> >>>Paris. And if I have a system with 2 eds cards, one mec, one c16,
is
>> it
>> >>>worth it for me to switch to XP ?
>> >>> I rarely have projects with more than 32 tracks.
>> >>>
>> >>>Thanks,
>> >>>
>> >>>Steve L.
>> >>
>> >
>>
>
>Steve.
An Antec true-power 350 watter. I pulled it from an Antec Sonata
case that I bought for Paris, but the damn box wouldn't accomodate the full
length EDS cards.
"Steve L." <slavii@aol.com> wrote:
>
>what power supply are you useing ?
>
>"Kim W." <no@way.com> wrote:
>>
>>A bit hard to find these days, and a bit "old school", but they are still
>>out there.
>>Gigabyte K8NS Ultra 939. Works like a charm with XP and 4 EDS cards, and
>>two dual-head Nvidia VGA's.
>>I Highly recommend it. No problems with IRQ's etc, just plug in
>>all cards, and install XP. Easy.
>>
>>Kim
>>
>>"Steve L." <slavii@aol.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>I am strongly considering building myself a new box and making the switch
>>>from 98 to xp. Is there a list of moterboards (or any other hardware)
>that
>>>works best in running paris on XP. I will only use this computer to run
>>>Paris. And if I have a system with 2 eds cards, one mec, one c16, is
it
>>>worth it for me to switch to XP ?
>>> I rarely have projects with more than 32 tracks.
>>>
>>>Thanks,
>>>
>>>Steve L.
>>
>Kim,
Could you get me the model #'s of those video cards when you get a chance?
thanks, oh moderating one
;o)
"Kim W" <no@way.com> wrote in message news:451c10ca$1@linux...
>
> Hi, DJ.
> They are the original Quadros. (NVS 280 I think..)
> Would have to check. Got them some time ago on ebay for next to
> nothing. These are/were available in PCI and AGP.
> Yes, sluttage is good!
> Kim
>
> "DJ" <notachance@net.net> wrote:
> >Ahhhh.....HA!!! ....sooooo....... you're using 4 monitors as well? I
missed
> >that. What kind of dual heads are you using? GEForce 5500's?
> > BTW, your foray into wretched exess and componentry sluttage has made me
> >proud.
> >
> >;o)
> >
> >"Kim W" <no@way.com> wrote in message news:451bfec7$1@linux...
> >>
> >> Hi John.
> >> Never used a Magma. I reckon you could probably even get 5 EDS's
> >> working, but I need 4 monitors, so one of the pci slots has a
> >> Nvidia Quadro in it.
> >> Kim
> >>
> >> "John" <no@no.com> wrote:
> >> >
> >> >No problems with IRQs? What fun is that? Is 4 the most Paris can go
> >before
> >> >a Magma chassis is needed? So how are the IRQs on the Magma again
with
> >> 8
> >> >eds cards? It has one PCI interface card that goes in the host pc and
> it
> >> >uses 2(?) irqs and the chassis shares those two across the 8 cards?
> How
> >> >does that work?
> >> >
> >> >Thanks,
> >> >John
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >"Kim W." <no@way.com> wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >>A bit hard to find these days, and a bit "old school", but they are
> >still
> >> >>out there.
> >> >>Gigabyte K8NS Ultra 939. Works like a charm with XP and 4 EDS cards,
> and
> >> >>two dual-head Nvidia VGA's.
> >> >>I Highly recommend it. No problems with IRQ's etc, just plug in
> >> >>all cards, and install XP. Easy.
> >> >>
> >> >>Kim
> >> >>
> >> >>"Steve L." <slavii@aol.com> wrote:
> >> >>>
> >> >>>I am strongly considering building myself a new box and making the
> >switch
> >> >>>from 98 to xp. Is there a list of moterboards (or any other
hardware)
> >> >that
> >> >>>works best in running paris on XP. I will only use this computer to
> >run
> >> >>>Paris. And if I have a system with 2 eds cards, one mec, one c16,
> is
> >> it
> >> >>>worth it for me to switch to XP ?
> >> >>> I rarely have projects with more than 32 tracks.
> >> >>>
> >> >>>Thanks,
> >> >>>
> >> >>>Steve L.
> >> >>
> >> >
> >>
> >
> >
>3500+
"DJ" <notachance@net.net> wrote:
>.........and what CPU are you using?
>
>"Steve L." <slavii@aol.com> wrote in message news:451c0bdf$1@linux...
>>
>> what power supply are you useing ?
>>
>> "Kim W." <no@way.com> wrote:
>> >
>> >A bit hard to find these days, and a bit "old school", but they are still
>> >out there.
>> >Gigabyte K8NS Ultra 939. Works like a charm with XP and 4 EDS cards,
and
>> >two dual-head Nvidia VGA's.
>> >I Highly recommend it. No problems with IRQ's etc, just plug in
>> >all cards, and install XP. Easy.
>> >
>> >Kim
>> >
>> >"Steve L." <slavii@aol.com> wrote:
>> >>
>> >>I am strongly considering building myself a new box and making the
>switch
>> >>from 98 to xp. Is there a list of moterboards (or any other hardware)
>> that
>> >>works best in running paris on XP. I will only use this computer to
run
>> >>Paris. And if I have a system with 2 eds cards, one mec, one c16, is
it
>> >>worth it for me to switch to XP ?
>> >> I rarely have projects with more than 32 tracks.
>> >>
>> >>Thanks,
>> >>
>> >>Steve L.
>> >
>>
>
>Lookie Here:
http://cgi.ebay.com/Nvidia-Quadro-NVS-280-AGP-64mb-2x-4x-8x- Dual-Video_W0QQitemZ180032324096QQihZ008QQcategoryZ40161QQrd Z1QQcmdZViewItem
http://cgi.ebay.com/Nvidia-Quadro-NVS-280-AGP-64mb-2x-4x-8x- Dual-Video_W0QQitemZ180032324980QQihZ008QQcategoryZ40161QQrd Z1QQcmdZViewItem
http://cgi.ebay.com/NVIDIA-Quadro-NVS280-AGP-64mb-DDR-SDRAM- Excellent_W0QQitemZ260035231225QQihZ016QQcategoryZ40161QQrdZ 1QQcmdZViewItem
http://cgi.ebay.com/NVIDIA-Quadro-NVS280-AGP-64mb-DDR-SDRAM- Excellent_W0QQitemZ260035231225QQihZ016QQcategoryZ40161QQrdZ 1QQcmdZViewItem
http://cgi.ebay.com/NVIDIA-Quadro-NVS280-AGP-64mb-DDR-SDRAM- Excellent_W0QQitemZ260035231225QQihZ016QQcategoryZ40161QQrdZ 1QQcmdZViewItem
Passive cooling, too. Nice and quiet.
Kim
"DJ" <notachance@net.net> wrote:
>Kim,
>
>Could you get me the model #'s of those video cards when you get a chance?
>
>thanks, oh moderating one
>
>;o)
>
>"Kim W" <no@way.com> wrote in message news:451c10ca$1@linux...
>>
>> Hi, DJ.
>> They are the original Quadros. (NVS 280 I think..)
>> Would have to check. Got them some time ago on ebay for next to
>> nothing. These are/were available in PCI and AGP.
>> Yes, sluttage is good!
>> Kim
>>
>> "DJ" <notachance@net.net> wrote:
>> >Ahhhh.....HA!!! ....sooooo....... you're using 4 monitors as well? I
>missed
>> >that. What kind of dual heads are you using? GEForce 5500's?
>> > BTW, your foray into wretched exess and componentry sluttage has made
me
>> >proud.
>> >
>> >;o)
>> >
>> >"Kim W" <no@way.com> wrote in message news:451bfec7$1@linux...
>> >>
>> >> Hi John.
>> >> Never used a Magma. I reckon you could probably even get 5 EDS's
>> >> working, but I need 4 monitors, so one of the pci slots has a
>> >> Nvidia Quadro in it.
>> >> Kim
>> >>
>> >> "John" <no@no.com> wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> >No problems with IRQs? What fun is that? Is 4 the most Paris can
go
>> >before
>> >> >a Magma chassis is needed? So how are the IRQs on the Magma again
>with
>> >> 8
>> >> >eds cards? It has one PCI interface card that goes in the host pc
and
>> it
>> >> >uses 2(?) irqs and the chassis shares those two across the 8 cards?
>> How
>> >> >does that work?
>> >> >
>> >> >Thanks,
>> >> >John
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >"Kim W." <no@way.com> wrote:
>> >> >>
>> >> >>A bit hard to find these days, and a bit "old school", but they are
>> >still
>> >> >>out there.
>> >> >>Gigabyte K8NS Ultra 939. Works like a charm with XP and 4 EDS cards,
>> and
>> >> >>two dual-head Nvidia VGA's.
>> >> >>I Highly recommend it. No problems with IRQ's etc, just plug in
>> >> >>all cards, and install XP. Easy.
>> >> >>
>> >> >>Kim
>> >> >>
>> >> >>"Steve L." <slavii@aol.com> wrote:
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>>I am strongly considering building myself a new box and making the
>> >switch
>> >> >>>from 98 to xp. Is there a list of moterboards (or any other
>hardware)
>> >> >that
>> >> >>>works best in running paris on XP. I will only use this computer
to
>> >run
>> >> >>>Paris. And if I have a system with 2 eds cards, one mec, one c16,
>> is
>> >> it
>> >> >>>worth it for me to switch to XP ?
>> >> >>> I rarely have projects with more than 32 tracks.
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>>Thanks,
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>>Steve L.
>> >> >>
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>>
>
>OOPS!
Try these for the PCI.
Guess my copy/paste chops aren't up to it a 4am.
http://cgi.ebay.com/NVIDIA-64MB-PCI-Graphics-Card-Quadro-NVS 280-DDR_W0QQitemZ140032418162QQihZ004QQcategoryZ96877QQrdZ1Q QcmdZViewItem
http://cgi.ebay.com/PNY-NVIDIA-QUADRO-NVS-280-PCI-64MB-VCQ42 80NVS-PCI_W0QQitemZ110038297777QQihZ001QQcategoryZ64481QQrdZ 1QQcmdZViewItem
>Lookie Here:
>
> http://cgi.ebay.com/Nvidia-Quadro-NVS-280-AGP-64mb-2x-4x-8x- Dual-Video_W0QQitemZ180032324096QQihZ008QQcategoryZ40161QQrd Z1QQcmdZViewItem
>
> http://cgi.ebay.com/Nvidia-Quadro-NVS-280-AGP-64mb-2x-4x-8x- Dual-Video_W0QQitemZ180032324980QQihZ008QQcategoryZ40161QQrd Z1QQcmdZViewItem
>
> http://cgi.ebay.com/NVIDIA-Quadro-NVS280-AGP-64mb-DDR-SDRAM- Excellent_W0QQitemZ260035231225QQihZ016QQcategoryZ40161QQrdZ 1QQcmdZViewItem
>
> http://cgi.ebay.com/NVIDIA-Quadro-NVS280-AGP-64mb-DDR-SDRAM- Excellent_W0QQitemZ260035231225QQihZ016QQcategoryZ40161QQrdZ 1QQcmdZViewItem
>
> http://cgi.ebay.com/NVIDIA-Quadro-NVS280-AGP-64mb-DDR-SDRAM- Excellent_W0QQitemZ260035231225QQihZ016QQcategoryZ40161QQrdZ 1QQcmdZViewItem
>
>Passive cooling, too. Nice and quiet.
>
>Kim
>
>"DJ" <notachance@net.net> wrote:
>>Kim,
>>
>>Could you get me the model #'s of those video cards when you get a chance?
>>
>>thanks, oh moderating one
>>
>>;o)
>>
>>"Kim W" <no@way.com> wrote in message news:451c10ca$1@linux...
>>>
>>> Hi, DJ.
>>> They are the original Quadros. (NVS 280 I think..)
>>> Would have to check. Got them some time ago on ebay for next to
>>> nothing. These are/were available in PCI and AGP.
>>> Yes, sluttage is good!
>>> Kim
>>>
>>> "DJ" <notachance@net.net> wrote:
>>> >Ahhhh.....HA!!! ....sooooo....... you're using 4 monitors as well?
I
>>missed
>>> >that. What kind of dual heads are you using? GEForce 5500's?
>>> > BTW, your foray into wretched exess and componentry sluttage has made
>me
>>> >proud.
>>> >
>>> >;o)
>>> >
>>> >"Kim W" <no@way.com> wrote in message news:451bfec7$1@linux...
>>> >>
>>> >> Hi John.
>>> >> Never used a Magma. I reckon you could probably even get 5 EDS's
>>> >> working, but I need 4 monitors, so one of the pci slots has a
>>> >> Nvidia Quadro in it.
>>> >> Kim
>>> >>
>>> >> "John" <no@no.com> wrote:
>>> >> >
>>> >> >No problems with IRQs? What fun is that? Is 4 the most Paris can
>go
>>> >before
>>> >> >a Magma chassis is needed? So how are the IRQs on the Magma again
>>with
>>> >> 8
>>> >> >eds cards? It has one PCI interface card that goes in the host pc
>and
>>> it
>>> >> >uses 2(?) irqs and the chassis shares those two across the 8 cards?
>>> How
>>> >> >does that work?
>>> >> >
>>> >> >Thanks,
>>> >> >John
>>> >> >
>>> >> >
>>> >> >
>>> >> >
>>> >> >"Kim W." <no@way.com> wrote:
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >>A bit hard to find these days, and a bit "old school", but they
are
>>> >still
>>> >> >>out there.
>>> >> >>Gigabyte K8NS Ultra 939. Works like a charm with XP and 4 EDS cards,
>>> and
>>> >> >>two dual-head Nvidia VGA's.
>>> >> >>I Highly recommend it. No problems with IRQ's etc, just plug in
>>> >> >>all cards, and install XP. Easy.
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >>Kim
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >>"Steve L." <slavii@aol.com> wrote:
>>> >> >>>
>>> >> >>>I am strongly considering building myself a new box and making
the
>>> >switch
>>> >> >>>from 98 to xp. Is there a list of moterboards (or any other
>>hardware)
>>> >> >that
>>> >> >>>works best in running paris on XP. I will only use this computer
>to
>>> >run
>>> >> >>>Paris. And if I have a system with 2 eds cards, one mec, one c16,
>>> is
>>> >> it
>>> >> >>>worth it for me to switch to XP ?
>>> >> >>> I rarely have projects with more than 32 tracks.
>>> >> >>>
>>> >> >>>Thanks,
>>> >> >>>
>>> >> >>>Steve L.
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >
>>> >>
>>> >
>>> >
>>>
>>
>>
>DJ.
Also forgot to mention that Paris doesn't stop playing when
moving windows across screens with these cards.
My pair of Matrox 450's used to. (that may have been a win98
issue though...)
Kim
"Kim W" <no@way.com> wrote:
>
>OOPS!
>Try these for the PCI.
>Guess my copy/paste chops aren't up to it a 4am.
>
> http://cgi.ebay.com/NVIDIA-64MB-PCI-Graphics-Card-Quadro-NVS 280-DDR_W0QQitemZ140032418162QQihZ004QQcategoryZ96877QQrdZ1Q QcmdZViewItem
>
> http://cgi.ebay.com/PNY-NVIDIA-QUADRO-NVS-280-PCI-64MB-VCQ42 80NVS-PCI_W0QQitemZ110038297777QQihZ001QQcategoryZ64481QQrdZ 1QQcmdZViewItem
>
>>Lookie Here:
>>
>> http://cgi.ebay.com/Nvidia-Quadro-NVS-280-AGP-64mb-2x-4x-8x- Dual-Video_W0QQitemZ180032324096QQihZ008QQcategoryZ40161QQrd Z1QQcmdZViewItem
>>
>> http://cgi.ebay.com/Nvidia-Quadro-NVS-280-AGP-64mb-2x-4x-8x- Dual-Video_W0QQitemZ180032324980QQihZ008QQcategoryZ40161QQrd Z1QQcmdZViewItem
>>
>> http://cgi.ebay.com/NVIDIA-Quadro-NVS280-AGP-64mb-DDR-SDRAM- Excellent_W0QQitemZ260035231225QQihZ016QQcategoryZ40161QQrdZ 1QQcmdZViewItem
>>
>> http://cgi.ebay.com/NVIDIA-Quadro-NVS280-AGP-64mb-DDR-SDRAM- Excellent_W0QQitemZ260035231225QQihZ016QQcategoryZ40161QQrdZ 1QQcmdZViewItem
>>
>> http://cgi.ebay.com/NVIDIA-Quadro-NVS280-AGP-64mb-DDR-SDRAM- Excellent_W0QQitemZ260035231225QQihZ016QQcategoryZ40161QQrdZ 1QQcmdZViewItem
>>
>>Passive cooling, too. Nice and quiet.
>>
>>Kim
>>
>>"DJ" <notachance@net.net> wrote:
>>>Kim,
>>>
>>>Could you get me the model #'s of those video cards when you get a chance?
>>>
>>>thanks, oh moderating one
>>>
>>>;o)
>>>
>>>"Kim W" <no@way.com> wrote in message news:451c10ca$1@linux...
>>>>
>>>> Hi, DJ.
>>>> They are the original Quadros. (NVS 280 I think..)
>>>> Would have to check. Got them some time ago on ebay for next to
>>>> nothing. These are/were available in PCI and AGP.
>>>> Yes, sluttage is good!
>>>> Kim
>>>>
>>>> "DJ" <notachance@net.net> wrote:
>>>> >Ahhhh.....HA!!! ....sooooo....... you're using 4 monitors as well?
>I
>>>missed
>>>> >that. What kind of dual heads are you using? GEForce 5500's?
>>>> > BTW, your foray into wretched exess and componentry sluttage has made
>>me
>>>> >proud.
>>>> >
>>>> >;o)
>>>> >
>>>> >"Kim W" <no@way.com> wrote in message news:451bfec7$1@linux...
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Hi John.
>>>> >> Never used a Magma. I reckon you could probably even get 5 EDS's
>>>> >> working, but I need 4 monitors, so one of the pci slots has a
>>>> >> Nvidia Quadro in it.
>>>> >> Kim
>>>> >>
>>>> >> "John" <no@no.com> wrote:
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> >No problems with IRQs? What fun is that? Is 4 the most Paris can
>>go
>>>> >before
>>>> >> >a Magma chassis is needed? So how are the IRQs on the Magma again
>>>with
>>>> >> 8
>>>> >> >eds cards? It has one PCI interface card that goes in the host
pc
>>and
>>>> it
>>>> >> >uses 2(?) irqs and the chassis shares those two across the 8 cards?
>>>> How
>>>> >> >does that work?
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> >Thanks,
>>>> >> >John
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> >"Kim W." <no@way.com> wrote:
>>>> >> >>
>>>> >> >>A bit hard to find these days, and a bit "old school", but they
>are
>>>> >still
>>>> >> >>out there.
>>>> >> >>Gigabyte K8NS Ultra 939. Works like a charm with XP and 4 EDS cards,
>>>> and
>>>> >> >>two dual-head Nvidia VGA's.
>>>> >> >>I Highly recommend it. No problems with IRQ's etc, just plug in
>>>> >> >>all cards, and install XP. Easy.
>>>> >> >>
>>>> >> >>Kim
>>>> >> >>
>>>> >> >>"Steve L." <slavii@aol.com> wrote:
>>>> >> >>>
>>>> >> >>>I am strongly considering building myself a new box and making
>the
>>>> >switch
>>>> >> >>>from 98 to xp. Is there a list of moterboards (or any other
>>>hardware)
>>>> >> >that
>>>> >> >>>works best in running paris on XP. I will only use this computer
>>to
>>>> >run
>>>> >> >>>Paris. And if I have a system with 2 eds cards, one mec, one
c16,
>>>> is
>>>> >> it
>>>> >> >>>worth it for me to switch to XP ?
>>>> >> >>> I rarely have projects with more than 32 tracks.
>>>> >> >>>
>>>> >> >>>Thanks,
>>>> >> >>>
>>>> >> >>>Steve L.
>>>> >> >>
>>>> >> >
>>>> >>
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>How much RAM? What brand?
"Kim W." <no@way.com> wrote in message news:451c121f$1@linux...
>
> 3500+
>
> "DJ" <notachance@net.net> wrote:
> >.........and what CPU are you using?
> >
> >"Steve L." <slavii@aol.com> wrote in message news:451c0bdf$1@linux...
> >>
> >> what power supply are you useing ?
> >>
> >> "Kim W." <no@way.com> wrote:
> >> >
> >> >A bit hard to find these days, and a bit "old school", but they are
still
> >> >out there.
> >> >Gigabyte K8NS Ultra 939. Works like a charm with XP and 4 EDS cards,
> and
> >> >two dual-head Nvidia VGA's.
> >> >I Highly recommend it. No problems with IRQ's etc, just plug in
> >> >all cards, and install XP. Easy.
> >> >
> >> >Kim
> >> >
> >> >"Steve L." <slavii@aol.com> wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >>I am strongly considering building myself a new box and making the
> >switch
> >> >>from 98 to xp. Is there a list of moterboards (or any other
hardware)
> >> that
> >> >>works best in running paris on XP. I will only use this computer to
> run
> >> >>Paris. And if I have a system with 2 eds cards, one mec, one c16, is
> it
> >> >>worth it for me to switch to XP ?
> >> >> I rarely have projects with more than 32 tracks.
> >> >>
> >> >>Thanks,
> >> >>
> >> >>Steve L.
> >> >
> >>
> >
> >
>I cloned my system disk using Acronis and that part was smooth.
Actually, pretty straight forward. (I'm on XP pro Sp2).
I had to re-install my Unitor8 Mkll (usb). Ok, no big deal even though
the install process makes about as much sense
as a monkey on crack. (Maybe I'm on crack and don't know it.)
Now the good part... clicking on the Paris Pro icon causes an immediate
shutdown and re-boot. After re-boot,
there's one of those microshaft error boxes saying the computer has
recovered from a serious malfunction or whatever.
Before I go trying to do a complete re-install of Paris does anyone have
a bit of advise on a possible
alternative to a complete re-install? I'm using 1 MEC, 1 C-16, and 2
cards, Intel Mobo & CPU. This set up has been stable for
years. Then again I don't do much heavy editing and tracking.
Thanks very much, JimNo-name 768mb. (not running dual-channel).
I think one of them is A-data.
As far as the video cards go, there are heaps on eBay, but
make sure you get the right splitter cables for your needs.
Kim
DJ" <notachance@net.net> wrote:
>How much RAM? What brand?
>
>"Kim W." <no@way.com> wrote in message news:451c121f$1@linux...
>>
>> 3500+
>>
>> "DJ" <notachance@net.net> wrote:
>> >.........and what CPU are you using?
>> >
>> >"Steve L." <slavii@aol.com> wrote in message news:451c0bdf$1@linux...
>> >>
>> >> what power supply are you useing ?
>> >>
>> >> "Kim W." <no@way.com> wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> >A bit hard to find these days, and a bit "old school", but they are
>still
>> >> >out there.
>> >> >Gigabyte K8NS Ultra 939. Works like a charm with XP and 4 EDS cards,
>> and
>> >> >two dual-head Nvidia VGA's.
>> >> >I Highly recommend it. No problems with IRQ's etc, just plug in
>> >> >all cards, and install XP. Easy.
>> >> >
>> >> >Kim
>> >> >
>> >> >"Steve L." <slavii@aol.com> wrote:
>> >> >>
>> >> >>I am strongly considering building myself a new box and making the
>> >switch
>> >> >>from 98 to xp. Is there a list of moterboards (or any other
>hardware)
>> >> that
>> >> >>works best in running paris on XP. I will only use this computer
to
>> run
>> >> >>Paris. And if I have a system with 2 eds cards, one mec, one c16,
is
>> it
>> >> >>worth it for me to switch to XP ?
>> >> >> I rarely have projects with more than 32 tracks.
>> >> >>
>> >> >>Thanks,
>> >> >>
>> >> >>Steve L.
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>>
>
>Hey Kim,
Maybe if you get time, you could just post the whole config on this computer
that works so well with PARIS? I'm a Mac guy, but have been toying with
building a PC for PARIS. Anyway, being a stupid Mac guy, I need all the
details you can spare. It might also save you from having to give everyone
your config, one post at a time. ;>)
Tony
"Kim W." <no@way.com> wrote in message news:451c1a58$1@linux...
>
> No-name 768mb. (not running dual-channel).
> I think one of them is A-data.
> As far as the video cards go, there are heaps on eBay, but
> make sure you get the right splitter cables for your needs.
> Kim
>
> DJ" <notachance@net.net> wrote:
>>How much RAM? What brand?
>>
>>"Kim W." <no@way.com> wrote in message news:451c121f$1@linux...
>>>
>>> 3500+
>>>
>>> "DJ" <notachance@net.net> wrote:
>>> >.........and what CPU are you using?
>>> >
>>> >"Steve L." <slavii@aol.com> wrote in message news:451c0bdf$1@linux...
>>> >>
>>> >> what power supply are you useing ?
>>> >>
>>> >> "Kim W." <no@way.com> wrote:
>>> >> >
>>> >> >A bit hard to find these days, and a bit "old school", but they are
>>still
>>> >> >out there.
>>> >> >Gigabyte K8NS Ultra 939. Works like a charm with XP and 4 EDS cards,
>>> and
>>> >> >two dual-head Nvidia VGA's.
>>> >> >I Highly recommend it. No problems with IRQ's etc, just plug in
>>> >> >all cards, and install XP. Easy.
>>> >> >
>>> >> >Kim
>>> >> >
>>> >> >"Steve L." <slavii@aol.com> wrote:
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >>I am strongly considering building myself a new box and making the
>>> >switch
>>> >> >>from 98 to xp. Is there a list of moterboards (or any other
>>hardware)
>>> >> that
>>> >> >>works best in running paris on XP. I will only use this computer
> to
>>> run
>>> >> >>Paris. And if I have a system with 2 eds cards, one mec, one c16,
> is
>>> it
>>> >> >>worth it for me to switch to XP ?
>>> >> >> I rarely have projects with more than 32 tracks.
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >>Thanks,
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >>Steve L.
>>> >> >
>>> >>
>>> >
>>> >
>>>
>>
>>
>Sure, Tony.
Maybe tomorrow.
Gotta get some shuteye now.
Kim
"Tony Benson" <tony@standinghampton.com> wrote:
>Hey Kim,
>
>Maybe if you get time, you could just post the whole config on this computer
>that works so well with PARIS? I'm a Mac guy, but have been toying with
>building a PC for PARIS. Anyway, being a stupid Mac guy, I need all the
>details you can spare. It might also save you from having to give everyone
>your config, one post at a time. ;>)
>
>Tony
>
>
>"Kim W." <no@way.com> wrote in message news:451c1a58$1@linux...
>>
>> No-name 768mb. (not running dual-channel).
>> I think one of them is A-data.
>> As far as the video cards go, there are heaps on eBay, but
>> make sure you get the right splitter cables for your needs.
>> Kim
>>
>> DJ" <notachance@net.net> wrote:
>>>How much RAM? What brand?
>>>
>>>"Kim W." <no@way.com> wrote in message news:451c121f$1@linux...
>>>>
>>>> 3500+
>>>>
>>>> "DJ" <notachance@net.net> wrote:
>>>> >.........and what CPU are you using?
>>>> >
>>>> >"Steve L." <slavii@aol.com> wrote in message news:451c0bdf$1@linux...
>>>> >>
>>>> >> what power supply are you useing ?
>>>> >>
>>>> >> "Kim W." <no@way.com> wrote:
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> >A bit hard to find these days, and a bit "old school", but they
are
>>>still
>>>> >> >out there.
>>>> >> >Gigabyte K8NS Ultra 939. Works like a charm with XP and 4 EDS cards,
>>>> and
>>>> >> >two dual-head Nvidia VGA's.
>>>> >> >I Highly recommend it. No problems with IRQ's etc, just plug in
>>>> >> >all cards, and install XP. Easy.
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> >Kim
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> >"Steve L." <slavii@aol.com> wrote:
>>>> >> >>
>>>> >> >>I am strongly considering building myself a new box and making
the
>>>> >switch
>>>> >> >>from 98 to xp. Is there a list of moterboards (or any other
>>>hardware)
>>>> >> that
>>>> >> >>works best in running paris on XP. I will only use this computer
>> to
>>>> run
>>>> >> >>Paris. And if I have a system with 2 eds cards, one mec, one c16,
>> is
>>>> it
>>>> >> >>worth it for me to switch to XP ?
>>>> >> >> I rarely have projects with more than 32 tracks.
>>>> >> >>
>>>> >> >>Thanks,
>>>> >> >>
>>>> >> >>Steve L.
>>>> >> >
>>>> >>
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>
>hahaha
DJ wrote:
> Did you ever smoke those roaches? Did they object?
> ;o)
>
> "John" <no@no.com> wrote in message news:451be21f$1@linux...
>> Just be careful if the present is from JustCron :-)
>>
>> "Robert Arsenault" <studiomanitou@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Christmas in September............coooooooool......!!!
>>>
>>>
>>> "John" <no@no.com> wrote in message news:451bc776$1@linux...
>>>> teaser ! latency compensation ???????? Say yes !
>>>>
>>>> "Dimitrios" <musurgio@otenet.gr> wrote:
>>>>> Hi to all.
>>>>> Thats good news for us Parisians.
>>>>> Matt Craig has contacted me about his reverb and some other goodies !!!
>>>> and
>>>>> he told me some things that are only good news.
>>>>> I will leave it up to him to decide when an what to announce.
>>>>> Happy Paris to everyone.
>>>>> Regards,
>>>>> Dimitrios
>>>
>
>I salute you both. Nice job sluts !
DJ wrote:
> Ahhhh.....HA!!! ....sooooo....... you're using 4 monitors as well? I missed
> that. What kind of dual heads are you using? GEForce 5500's?
> BTW, your foray into wretched exess and componentry sluttage has made me
> proud.
>
> ;o)
>
> "Kim W" <no@way.com> wrote in message news:451bfec7$1@linux...
>> Hi John.
>> Never used a Magma. I reckon you could probably even get 5 EDS's
>> working, but I need 4 monitors, so one of the pci slots has a
>> Nvidia Quadro in it.
>> Kim
>>
>> "John" <no@no.com> wrote:
>>> No problems with IRQs? What fun is that? Is 4 the most Paris can go
> before
>>> a Magma chassis is needed? So how are the IRQs on the Magma again with
>> 8
>>> eds cards? It has one PCI interface card that goes in the host pc and it
>>> uses 2(?) irqs and the chassis shares those two across the 8 cards? How
>>> does that work?
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> John
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> "Kim W." <no@way.com> wrote:
>>>> A bit hard to find these days, and a bit "old school", but they are
> still
>>>> out there.
>>>> Gigabyte K8NS Ultra 939. Works like a charm with XP and 4 EDS cards, and
>>>> two dual-head Nvidia VGA's.
>>>> I Highly recommend it. No problems with IRQ's etc, just plug in
>>>> all cards, and install XP. Easy.
>>>>
>>>> Kim
>>>>
>>>> "Steve L." <slavii@aol.com> wrote:
>>>>> I am strongly considering building myself a new box and making the
> switch
>>>> >from 98 to xp. Is there a list of moterboards (or any other hardware)
>>> that
>>>>> works best in running paris on XP. I will only use this computer to
> run
>>>>> Paris. And if I have a system with 2 eds cards, one mec, one c16, is
>> it
>>>>> worth it for me to switch to XP ?
>>>>> I rarely have projects with more than 32 tracks.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>
>>>>> Steve L.
>
>Paris only works well with pieces. No one has ever built a whole
computer that works well with Paris. hehe, couldn't resist.
John
Tony Benson wrote:
> Hey Kim,
>
> Maybe if you get time, you could just post the whole config on this computer
> that works so well with PARIS? I'm a Mac guy, but have been toying with
> building a PC for PARIS. Anyway, being a stupid Mac guy, I need all the
> details you can spare. It might also save you from having to give everyone
> your config, one post at a time. ;>)
>
> Tony
>
>
> "Kim W." <no@way.com> wrote in message news:451c1a58$1@linux...
>> No-name 768mb. (not running dual-channel).
>> I think one of them is A-data.
>> As far as the video cards go, there are heaps on eBay, but
>> make sure you get the right splitter cables for your needs.
>> Kim
>>
>> DJ" <notachance@net.net> wrote:
>>> How much RAM? What brand?
>>>
>>> "Kim W." <no@way.com> wrote in message news:451c121f$1@linux...
>>>> 3500+
>>>>
>>>> "DJ" <notachance@net.net> wrote:
>>>>> .........and what CPU are you using?
>>>>>
>>>>> "Steve L." <slavii@aol.com> wrote in message news:451c0bdf$1@linux...
>>>>>> what power supply are you useing ?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "Kim W." <no@way.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> A bit hard to find these days, and a bit "old school", but they are
>>> still
>>>>>>> out there.
>>>>>>> Gigabyte K8NS Ultra 939. Works like a charm with XP and 4 EDS cards,
>>>> and
>>>>>>> two dual-head Nvidia VGA's.
>>>>>>> I Highly recommend it. No problems with IRQ's etc, just plug in
>>>>>>> all cards, and install XP. Easy.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Kim
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "Steve L." <slavii@aol.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>> I am strongly considering building myself a new box and making the
>>>>> switch
>>>>>>> >from 98 to xp. Is there a list of moterboards (or any other
>>> hardware)
>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>> works best in running paris on XP. I will only use this computer
>> to
>>>> run
>>>>>>>> Paris. And if I have a system with 2 eds cards, one mec, one c16,
>> is
>>>> it
>>>>>>>> worth it for me to switch to XP ?
>>>>>>>> I rarely have projects with more than 32 tracks.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Steve L.
>>>>>
>>>
>
>"DJ" <notachance@net.net> wrote in message news:451bef38$1@linux...
> One of the features of the Paris mix bus that is not in the manual is the
> fact that it is the only digital system that can induce euphoric vomiting.
..
Hey,
That gives me a idea for a cool band name!!
dbI'm looking for a simple DIY for a guitar wallhanger. Basically a 2x4
about 4 feet long to hold maybe 6 or 8 guitars sideways. Any ideas?
Thanks
JohnDid you try starting the computer again.
I got one of those messages right out of the blue last week and next start
up...nothing, no probs
Don
"JCampbell" <campbell1745@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
news:451c19d2@linux...
>I cloned my system disk using Acronis and that part was smooth. Actually,
>pretty straight forward. (I'm on XP pro Sp2).
>
> I had to re-install my Unitor8 Mkll (usb). Ok, no big deal even though
> the install process makes about as much sense
> as a monkey on crack. (Maybe I'm on crack and don't know it.)
>
> Now the good part... clicking on the Paris Pro icon causes an immediate
> shutdown and re-boot. After re-boot,
> there's one of those microshaft error boxes saying the computer has
> recovered from a serious malfunction or whatever.
>
> Before I go trying to do a complete re-install of Paris does anyone have a
> bit of advise on a possible
> alternative to a complete re-install? I'm using 1 MEC, 1 C-16, and 2
> cards, Intel Mobo & CPU. This set up has been stable for
> years. Then again I don't do much heavy editing and tracking.
>
> Thanks very much, JimLike this:
http://www.stevesmusiccenter.com/ProelFC-520.html
John <no@no.com> wrote:
>I'm looking for a simple DIY for a guitar wallhanger. Basically a 2x4
>about 4 feet long to hold maybe 6 or 8 guitars sideways. Any ideas?
>
>Thanks
>JohnJohn <no@no.com> wrote:
>I'm looking for a simple DIY for a guitar wallhanger. Basically a 2x4
>about 4 feet long to hold maybe 6 or 8 guitars sideways. Any ideas?
>
>Thanks
>John
John-
have you seen those stands with two cams that you place your guitar between?
Gravity pulls the guitar down, and the cams clamp onto the neck. That's
all there is to it. Works great.
I can't seem to immediately find a picture online (of course there's one
somewhere...) but do you get the picture?
You could put the 2x4 up with a series of pairs of cams, each pair of which
would grip a guitar neck. The spacing and the distance from the wall of the
gripping pairs would depend on the guitars themselves.
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some things that looked to be well over a $1000 (thatsa no good), or other
build it yourself things (thatsa not so good either).
I suppose 2 drives could be alright, although I'm using 3 now.
One for the OS, one for audio, and one for sounds (Giga sounds,
etc., plus I usually throw backups of songs on the 3rd drive).
Thanks very much, do keep us posted. I'm interested.
"TCB" <nobody@ishere.com> wrote:
>
>Room for an extra drive, or to replace the current one. 750 GB drives are
>an option now, and a RAID 5 NAS unit is probably a better idea then keeping
>everything locally anyway. The machine in question has two PCI slots and
>one PCI-E.
>
>I'm 99% sure I'm going to do this, I'll keep people here posted.
>
>TCB
>
>"macle" <Mates9999@cs.com> wrote:
>>
>>I don't want to bet against you. In fact, if it works out great,
>>I'd probably copy you.
>>
>>I've been trying to figure out what to get for a new PC, and I
>>find the whole thing very much a drag (if I were richer, I
>>suppose I would get some overpriced pre-configured audio
>>computer).
>>
>>Pro Tools has computer recommendations, and some Dell worksations are listed,
>>which end up being around $3500!
>>
>>How many PCI slots are there? I was thinking I would want to use
>>the new computer for Paris as well as a native firewire setup,
>>but now I'm thinking to screw that. So I'd really only need
>>a slot for a UAD card I guess.
>>
>>Can you add 1 or 2 extra hard drives?
>>
>>
>>"TCB" <nobody@ishere.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>How long ago was this? I used to shy away from some 'commodity' manufacturers
>>>but when I look under the hood these days it looks like they're using
nearly
>>>identical core chipsets to the ASUS and Chaintechs of the world. The differences
>>>are in extras, gigabit networking, Promise SATA controllers, stuff like
>>that.
>>>
>>>
>>>Maybe I'll test the theory. My old audio machine (an old Athlon box) is
>>in
>>>bad shape. I was going to hold out for a fancy quad core but maybe I'll
>>snap
>>>up one of these Dells and see if I can make into an audio box.
>>>
>>>Anybody want to bet against me?
>>>
>>>TCB
>>>
>>>Dedric Terry <dterry@keyofd.net> wrote:
>>>>I think it depends on the use and the model. We had a Dell for video
>>>>editing at a previous job - tried to add a new video card to get a dual
>>>>display and it caused nothing but headaches, but I attributed that to
>a
>>>>cheap motherboard more than anything (everything in this model was cheap/not
>>>>industry standard).
>>>>
>>>>I built a custom system for them and it ran great.
>>>>
>>>>If you are mixing RME cards (or others even) and UAD-1s (then add firewire
>>>>audio perhaps), I wouldn't go off the shelf and expect great results
-
>>>>motherboards are too fickle (e.g. you could get stuck with an chipset
>that
>>>>isn't going to work or a slow PCI buss, unless you go PCI-E, then it
could
>>>>be a toss up until you test it in practice). Otherwise, TI firewire,
>DDR2,
>>>>SATA, etc should be fine, unless you go SATA raid.... (may work fine
in
>>>>typical data storage, but with audio chipsets can be problematic if you
>>>run
>>>>really high track counts).
>>>>
>>>>Dedric
>>>>
>>>>On 9/26/06 11:49 AM, in article 45196819$1@linux, "TCB" <nobody@ishere.com>
>>>>wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Total crap. That's why I run a few hundred thousand dollars of Dell
>gear
>>>for
>>>>> a living at work,
>>>>>
>>>>> It's an integrated nVidia AMD chipset, I'll bet you hash brownies to
>>hash
>>>>> browns (or perl hashes) a TI firewire chip, DDR2 RAM, SATA drives.
What's
>>>>> missing? Maybe upgrade My audio cards are firewire, I have one UAD-1
>>that
>>>>> I'll have to replace soon anyway with a PCI-E card, and I'll need it
>>less
>>>>> with the native f/x.
>>>>>
>>>>> TCB
>>>>>
>>>>> "Neil" <OIUOIU@OIU.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Do you think Dell would be a good DAW PC? I understand they're
>>>>>> decent, but often not very robust.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Neil
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "TCB" <nobody@ishere.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Beat this config for anything near the price.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> http://tinyurl.com/q7shy
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> TCB
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>Wow, that looks pretty good. Twice the ram. Plus, with a CRT
monitor. The Dell has a flat panel, but I don't think I care about
that. The Dell's drive is smaller but 7200, the HP is 5400, but
that's the OS, so does that matter? The HP has no floppy drive.
I guess no one uses those, but I think I need one occasionally.
Still, if you match up the Dell Ram-wise, etc., I think that is
now somewhere near $700, and the HP is just ovr $500 (after
rebates!).
"Neil" <OIUOIU@OIU.com> wrote:
>
>How about this one instead?
>
> http://www.circuitcity.com/ssm/HP-Pavilion-Media-Center-Desk top-PC-A1600N/sem/rpsm/oid/160199/catOid/-12962/rpem/ccd/pro ductDetail.do
>
>
>"TCB" <nobody@ishere.com> wrote:
>>
>>Room for an extra drive, or to replace the current one. 750 GB drives are
>>an option now, and a RAID 5 NAS unit is probably a better idea then keeping
>>everything locally anyway. The machine in question has two PCI slots and
>>one PCI-E.
>>
>>I'm 99% sure I'm going to do this, I'll keep people here posted.
>>
>>TCB
>>
>>"macle" <Mates9999@cs.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>I don't want to bet against you. In fact, if it works out great,
>>>I'd probably copy you.
>>>
>>>I've been trying to figure out what to get for a new PC, and I
>>>find the whole thing very much a drag (if I were richer, I
>>>suppose I would get some overpriced pre-configured audio
>>>computer).
>>>
>>>Pro Tools has computer recommendations, and some Dell worksations are
listed,
>>>which end up being around $3500!
>>>
>>>How many PCI slots are there? I was thinking I would want to use
>>>the new computer for Paris as well as a native firewire setup,
>>>but now I'm thinking to screw that. So I'd really only need
>>>a slot for a UAD card I guess.
>>>
>>>Can you add 1 or 2 extra hard drives?
>>>
>>>
>>>"TCB" <nobody@ishere.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>How long ago was this? I used to shy away from some 'commodity' manufacturers
>>>>but when I look under the hood these days it looks like they're using
>nearly
>>>>identical core chipsets to the ASUS and Chaintechs of the world. The
differences
>>>>are in extras, gigabit networking, Promise SATA controllers, stuff like
>>>that.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Maybe I'll test the theory. My old audio machine (an old Athlon box)
is
>>>in
>>>>bad shape. I was going to hold out for a fancy quad core but maybe I'll
>>>snap
>>>>up one of these Dells and see if I can make into an audio box.
>>>>
>>>>Anybody want to bet against me?
>>>>
>>>>TCB
>>>>
>>>>Dedric Terry <dterry@keyofd.net> wrote:
>>>>>I think it depends on the use and the model. We had a Dell for video
>>>>>editing at a previous job - tried to add a new video card to get a dual
>>>>>display and it caused nothing but headaches, but I attributed that to
>>a
>>>>>cheap motherboard more than anything (everything in this model was cheap/not
>>>>>industry standard).
>>>>>
>>>>>I built a custom system for them and it ran great.
>>>>>
>>>>>If you are mixing RME cards (or others even) and UAD-1s (then add firewire
>>>>>audio perhaps), I wouldn't go off the shelf and expect great results
>-
>>>>>motherboards are too fickle (e.g. you could get stuck with an chipset
>>that
>>>>>isn't going to work or a slow PCI buss, unless you go PCI-E, then it
>could
>>>>>be a toss up until you test it in practice). Otherwise, TI firewire,
>>DDR2,
>>>>>SATA, etc should be fine, unless you go SATA raid.... (may work fine
>in
>>>>>typical data storage, but with audio chipsets can be problematic if
you
>>>>run
>>>>>really high track counts).
>>>>>
>>>>>Dedric
>>>>>
>>>>>On 9/26/06 11:49 AM, in article 45196819$1@linux, "TCB" <nobody@ishere.com>
>>>>>wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Total crap. That's why I run a few hundred thousand dollars of Dell
>>gear
>>>>for
>>>>>> a living at work,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It's an integrated nVidia AMD chipset, I'll bet you hash brownies
to
>>>hash
>>>>>> browns (or perl hashes) a TI firewire chip, DDR2 RAM, SATA drives.
>What's
>>>>>> missing? Maybe upgrade My audio cards are firewire, I have one UAD-1
>>>that
>>>>>> I'll have to replace soon anyway with a PCI-E card, and I'll need
it
>>>less
>>>>>> with the native f/x.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> TCB
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "Neil" <OIUOIU@OIU.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Do you think Dell would be a good DAW PC? I understand they're
>>>>>>> decent, but often not very robust.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Neil
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "TCB" <nobody@ishere.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Beat this config for anything near the price.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> http://tinyurl.com/q7shy
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> TCB
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>I haven't seen those but I'm trying to build something probably all from
wood on the cheap. I wonder how much the cams are. Thanks,
John
steve the artguy wrote:
> John <no@no.com> wrote:
>> I'm looking for a simple DIY for a guitar wallhanger. Basically a 2x4
>> about 4 feet long to hold maybe 6 or 8 guitars sideways. Any ideas?
>>
>> Thanks
>> John
>
>
> John-
>
> have you seen those stands with two cams that you place your guitar between?
> Gravity pulls the guitar down, and the cams clamp onto the neck. That's
> all there is to it. Works great.
>
> I can't seem to immediately find a picture online (of course there's one
> somewhere...) but do you get the picture?
>
> You could put the 2x4 up with a series of pairs of cams, each pair of which
> would grip a guitar neck. The spacing and the distance from the wall of the
> gripping pairs would depend on the guitars themselves.
>
> -steveOh, that's easy, from Windows Explorer, Pick "List View", then Tools /
Folder Options / View Tab / Apply to all folders.
If you want My computer to default to 2 pane view: Tools / FOlder
Options / File Types / Folder / Advanced / set Explore as Default.
Enjoy,
John
Tom Bruhl wrote:
> Is there any way to have all windows open up in list form
> rather than defaulting to icons all the time? It drives me
> crazy having to switch for the last ten years of my life.
> Tom
>
>
> I choose Polesoft Lockspam to fight spam, and you?
> http://www.polesoft.com/refer.htmlOk, I give up. I can't seem to find cam version on the internet. hmm"John" <no@no.com> wrote:
>
>Ok, I give up. I can't seem to find cam version on the internet. hmm
John-
I could make some out of some hard wood and a tablesaw/scrollsaw/nailfile
or whatever. I think it would be nice to have them made of wood, actually.
Just two circles mounted slightly off center would work. I could draw something
up if you'd like... if I haven't made it suffficiently confusing...
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John,
Saaaaahahahahahahaaaaaweeeeeeeeeet!
You have forever changed my life. Fewer bad
words will come from my mouth regarding Mr. Gates
from this moment on.
Thank a big Ewe!
Tom
"John" <no@no.com> wrote in message news:451c386a@linux...
Oh, that's easy, from Windows Explorer, Pick "List View", then Tools =
/=20
Folder Options / View Tab / Apply to all folders.
If you want My computer to default to 2 pane view: Tools / FOlder=20
Options / File Types / Folder / Advanced / set Explore as Default.
Enjoy,
John
Tom Bruhl wrote:
> Is there any way to have all windows open up in list form
> rather than defaulting to icons all the time? It drives me
> crazy having to switch for the last ten years of my life.=20
> Tom=20
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o with my system these days.
I can tell you that for my needs Logic and OSX have developed into
impressive working tools. They've earned a spot here.
DP is nice, too.
Cheers,
-Jamie
http://www.JamieKrutz.com
Lamont wrote:
> Hey Jamie,
>
> I can feel your un-dying love and loyalty to Logic.:) However, I'm only stating
> my opinion from the trenches from both small and large studios.
> When you talk to producers or programmers today and ask about Logic audio,
> they all answer with "Yeah, I know Logic is cool, BUT....Always the But..
>
> They, Logic are on an deserted Island these days. Not supporting the Windows
> Platform was a major mistake. And I'm affraid, that If Apple does not change
> it's course Sooooooon, Logic will go the way of Studio Vision and so will
> Digital Performer.
> Unless Apple starts packaging Logic Pro with every dual Mac(thrown in), I
> cant really see them making any market penatration.
> Jamie K <Meta@Dimensional.com> wrote:
>> Heh. Yeah, they sit out NAMM sometimes. Apple didn't exhibit at Winter
>> NAMM when I covered it for MacWEEk a zillion years ago. I dinged 'em for
>
>> it in the mag. The director of music marketing over there was a bit
>> miffed. Whatever.
>>
>> Fact is, Logic has had several updates this year already, including
>> fixing some moldy bugs that HAD to go. It has finally gotten to th
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