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| Re: New Macbook Pro [message #86129 is a reply to message #86123] |
Tue, 05 June 2007 18:06   |
Jamie K
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ough current flowing between the broken pin pieces
>> to provide some signal, though not enough to be usable. I have attached
>> pictures.
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>> At this point I called yet another well respected expert who services
>> these mics for an opinion and was told that he had a backlog until late
>> 2008 but that Neumann could probably fix this issue. I boxed up both
>> mics, called Neumann, talked to their tech support, got an RA# and
>> shipped the mics on Monday PM.
>>
>> I then called PayPal and described the problem. They stated that their
>> policy is that no matter how a seller represents an item, if he accepts
>> Payment by PayPal, he is subject to the PP 45 day
>> complaint/arbitration/refund policy (I guess this may be why people who
>> sell very expensive old "vintage" mics, don't accept PayPal. The support
>> guy also advised me to go ahead and submit a complaint so that this could
>> be handled properly.
>>
>> I thought about this and then e-mailed the seller through EBay with a
>> brief description of what had happened. I didn't hear back from him for a
>> few hours. I decided to file the complaint (the seller thinks a little
>> prematurely) because I'm extremely busy and don't have the time to jack
>> around with waiting for some dude who probably is going to tell me that I
>> bought these "as is:" so he's not going to do jack ****. Judging by the
>> language in his ad, he is obvious intent is to sell a used mic and then
>> deny responsibility for it's condition because /"this item will be sold
>> as is and will not arrive D.O.A"/ because "/ I plugged it in with
>> Phantom power it works and sounds great"/
>>
>> Since I paid for both mics at once, Paypal gave this a single transaction
>> # and has frozen the payment for both mics. I clearly told him (when he
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| Re: New Macbook Pro [message #86133 is a reply to message #86129] |
Tue, 05 June 2007 18:48 |
Dedric Terry
Messages: 788
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gt;> have a reasonalbe expectation to have a functional mic and I think the
>> sellers attempts to have it both ways by stating that the mic works, but
>> "if it doesn't", anyone who buys it is screwed. IMO, a seller has to
>> responsibility to have his products serviced and confirmed to be in good
>> working order, or be willing abide by the rules of the game if he accepts
>> Payment by PayPal. that's part of the beauty of PayPal..Seller gets his
>> money immediately.....buyer has recourse if he gets crapped on. Am I
>> being an asshole here?
>>
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>>I listen to Kraftwerk (a lot) so I don't have a problem with perfect and well
executed music. I also like David paintings and Philip Larkin verse and Greek
terra cotta, all of which are almost perfectly executed. My point is that
Boston, to me and me only, sounds well executed to be sure, but to me also
phony and contrived. There's no airs put on by Hendrix, you can hear the
sweat and craziness and dirt all over the place. Again, just for me, not
trying to cause problems, Boston sounds like it's really trying to have feeling,
emotion, and balls but just doesn't.
TCB
"Neil" <OIUOI@OIU.com> wrote:
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>"TCB" <nobody@ishere.com> wrote:
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>>Now then, I'm really not trying to be divisive here. If people like More
>Than
>>a Feeling or think it's not treasonous to out a covert CIA agent that's
>OK.
>>We agree to disagree. But doesn't Boston seem a bit, I guess 'contrived'
>>is the best word? And I don't mean 'predictable' or 'well executed,' I
like
>>music made by machines after all. But doesn't More Than a Feeling actually
>>have Less Than a Feeling because it's trying so very hard to have Feeling
>>but ends up so buffed and perfect it's antiseptic?
>
>
>Then you probably don't like works of art such as
>executed, after all.
>
>NeilYou're completely in the right. I'd contact ebay as well and ask to have your
feedback removed until the issue is resolved and then repost.
It's much more fun buying from you, where things are always in slightly better
shape than expected as well as a couple days early. The guys in my band say
between you and Neil we're going to have to have to build out the studio
by adding the Thad Brown Paris Newsgroup Castoff Microphone Wing ;-)
TCB
"DJ" <animix _ at _ animas _ dot _ net> wrote:
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>I purchase a pair of Neumann KM84i's on EBay. Seller uses the following
=
>language in his ad........
>
>It is in very good working condition i
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| Re: New Macbook Pro [message #86135 is a reply to message #86133] |
Tue, 05 June 2007 19:26 |
Jamie K
Messages: 1115
Registered: July 2006
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be sold as is and will not arrive D.O.A.
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>Seller offers to hship them to me for $10.00. I tell him no, and provide
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>him with my UPS account number and tell him to ship them 2nd day, =
>insured for $3000.00, which he does. For some reason, they arrive late,
=
>(the evening of June 28th) but the package is completely intact and =
>shows no signs of damage or mishandling.
>
>I put them up on stands and conncet them to my Great river preamp. the =
>output of one if them is a bit low initially, but comes back up to an =
>acceptable level after a minute. I leave them up for about 45 minutes to
=
>get a burn in and they appear to function normally.
>
>The next day I do the same. Output level of same mic is a bit low, but =
>stabilizes. I use them for a little while, then put them away. I leave =
>the seller positive feedback because I am willing to concede that an =
>old mic like this may need to get the circuitry warmed up in order to =
>stabilize.
>
>Sunday, July 2nd, I have a picker come over to do some tracking. I put =
>the mics up and start tracking. The same mic that I thought needed to =
>stabilize drops in level to the point it is ususable, making quite a bit
=
>of racket as it dies.
>
>I call "a well known expert" (I'm keeping names out of this) on Monday =
>and under his guidance, I remove the capsule of the mic that died. then
=
>I remove the capsule of the mic that works. the connecting pin from the
=
>capsule assembly to the amp of the bad mic is physically broken off in =
>the back of the capsule assembly. When the capsulle is screwed on to the
=
>amp, there is barely enough current flowing between the broken pin =
>pieces to provide some signal, though not enough to be usable. I have =
>attached pictures.
>
>At this point I called yet another well respected expert who services =
>these mics for an opinion and was told that he had a backlog until late
=
>2008 but that Neumann could probably fix this issue. I boxed up both =
>mics, called Neumann, talked to their tech support, got an RA# and =
>shipped the mics on Monday PM.
>
>I then called PayPal and described the problem. They stated that their =
>policy is that no matter how a seller represents an item, if he accepts
=
>Payment by PayPal, he is subject to the PP 45 day =
>complaint/arbitration/refund policy (I guess this may be why people who
=
>sell very expensive old "vintage" mics, don't accept PayPal. The support
=
>guy also advised me to go ahead and submit a complaint so that this =
>could be handled properly.
>
>I thought about this and then e-mailed the seller through EBay with a =
>brief description of what had happened. I didn't hear back from him for
=
>a few hours. I decided to file the complaint (the seller thinks a little
=
>prematurely) because I'm extremely busy and don't have the time to jack
=
>around with waiting for some dude who probably is going to tell me that
=
>I bought these "as is:" so he's not going to do jack ****. Judging by =
>the language in his ad, he is obvious intent is to sell a used mic and =
>then deny responsibility for it's condition because "this item will be =
>sold as is and will not arrive D.O.A" because " I plugged it in with =
>Phantom power it works and sounds great"
>
>Since I paid for both mics at once, Paypal gave this a single =
>transaction # and has frozen the payment for both mics. I clearly told =
>him (when he replied to my complaint) and to PayPal (when I made the =
>complaint) that my problem was with only one of the mics. I will be fine
=
>with releasing the funds to him for the working mic, but I have not yet
=
>received a reply from him to my reply *to* his reply to my reply (sigh).
>
>I have asked him to pay for the repair or give me a full refund for the
=
>mic if the capsule is not repairable. II am also willing to abide by the
=
>opinion of the folks at Neumann as to the co
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| Re: New Macbook Pro [message #86144 is a reply to message #86133] |
Tue, 05 June 2007 20:29 |
Aaron Allen
Messages: 1988
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>------=_NextPart_001_03C4_01C7BE3D.6CD57740--
>Hey Thad,
He left reciprocal good feedback and I'm going to leave it at that for now.
He's already got a few dings, but those were for slow shipping. I'll take
this up with EBay if he behaves like a total turd about this. right now, I
think the reality of his plight may be sinking in so I'm going to give him a
little time to cool his jets. Since PP is a subsidiary of EBay, I think I
might be able to get come cooperation...maybe. It looks like feedback can
only be rescinded on EBay with the approval of both parties.
Keep an eye open for that ribbon mic. It should show up late week.
enjoy,
;o)
Deej
"TCB" <nobody@ishere.com> wrote in message news:468c13a5$1@linux...
>
> You're completely in the right. I'd contact ebay as well and ask to have
> your
> feedback removed until the issue is resolved and then repost.
>
> It's much more fun buying from you, where things are always in slightly
> better
> shape than expected as well as a couple days early. The guys in my band
> say
> between you and Neil we're going to have to have to build out the studio
> by adding the Thad Brown Paris Newsgroup Castoff Microphone Wing ;-)
>
> TCB
>
> "DJ" <animix _ at _ animas _ dot _ net> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>------=_NextPart_001_03C4_01C7BE3D.6CD57740
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>>I purchase a pair of Neumann KM84i's on EBay. Seller uses the following
> =
>>language in his ad........
>>
>>It is in very good working condition it is missing the purple neumann =
>>shield on the microphone it has some minor ware and tare a few light =
>>scratches on it as well over all i would give it an 8 out of 10=20
>>I plugged it in with Phantom power it works and sounds great=20
>>
>>i will offer a refund only if microphone is damaged during s
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| Re: New Macbook Pro [message #86147 is a reply to message #86141] |
Tue, 05 June 2007 20:44 |
Jamie K
Messages: 1115
Registered: July 2006
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o get the circuitry warmed up in order to =
>>stabilize.
>>
>>Sunday, July 2nd, I have a picker come over to do some tracking. I put =
>>the mics up and start tracking. The same mic that I thought needed to =
>>stabilize drops in level to the point it is ususable, making quite a bit
> =
>>of racket as it dies.
>>
>>I call "a well known expert" (I'm keeping names out of this) on Monday =
>>and under his guidance, I remove the capsule of the mic that died. then
> =
>>I remove the capsule of the mic that works. the connecting pin from the
> =
>>capsule assembly to the amp of the bad mic is physically broken off in =
>>the back of the capsule assembly. When the capsulle is screwed on to the
> =
>>amp, there is barely enough current flowing between the broken pin =
>>pieces to provide some signal, though not enough to be usable. I have =
>>attached pictures.
>>
>>At this point I called yet another well respected expert who services =
>>these mics for an opinion and was told that he had a backlog until late
> =
>>2008 but that Neumann could probably fix this issue. I boxed up both =
>>mics, called Neumann, talked to their tech support, got an RA# and =
>>shipped the mics on Monday PM.
>>
>>I then called PayPal and described the problem. They stated that their =
>>policy is that no matter how a seller represents an item, if he accepts
> =
>>Payment by PayPal, he is subject to the PP 45 day =
>>complaint/arbitration/refund policy (I guess this may be why people who
> =
>>sell very expensive old "vintage" mics, don't accept PayPal. The support
> =
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| Re: New Macbook Pro [message #86208 is a reply to message #86135] |
Wed, 06 June 2007 09:12 |
Jamie K
Messages: 1115
Registered: July 2006
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be handled properly.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I thought about this and then e-mailed the seller through EBay with
>>>a
>>>>>
>>>>>>>> brief description of what had happened. I didn't hear back from
him
>>>for
>>>>> a
>>>>>>>> few hours. I decided to file the complaint (the seller thinks a
>>>>>>>> little
>>>>>
>>>>>>>> prematurely) because I'm extremely busy and don't have the time
to
>>>jack
>>>>>
>>>>>>>> around with waiting for some dude who probably is going to tell
me
>>>that
>>>>> I
>>>>>>>> bought these "as is:" so he's not going to do jack ****. Judging
by
>>>the
>>>>>
>>>>>>>> language in his ad, he is obvious intent is to sell a used mic and
>>>then
>>>>>
>>>>>>>> deny responsibility for it's condition because /"this item will
be
>>>sold
>>>>>
>>>>>>>> as is and will not arrive D.O.A"/ because "/ I plugged it in with
>>>>>>>> Phantom power it works and sounds great"/
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Since I paid for both mics at once, Paypal gave this a single
>>>>>>>> transaction
>>>>>
>>>>>>>> # and has frozen the payment for both mics. I clearly told him (when
>>>>> he
>>>>>>>> replied to my complaint) and to PayPal (when I made the complaint)
>>>that
>>>>>
>>>>>>>> my problem was with only one of the mics. I will be fine with
>>>>>>>> releasing
>>>>>
>>>>>>>> the funds to him for the working mic, but I have not yet received
>> a
>>>
>>>>>>>> reply
>>>>>
>>>>>>>> from him to my reply *to* his reply to my reply (sigh).
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I have asked him to pay for the repair or give me a full refund
for
>>>>> the
>>>>>>>> mic if the capsule is not repairable. II am also willing to abide
>> by
>>>>> the
>>>>>>>> opinion of the folks at Neumann as to the condition of the mic.
I
>> think
>>>>> I
>>>>>>>> have a reasonalbe expectation to have a functional mic and I think
>>>the
>>>>>
>>>>>>>> sellers attempts to have it both ways by stating that the mic works,
>>>>> but
>>>>>>>> "if it doesn't", anyone who buys it is screwed. IMO, a seller has
>>>to
>>>>>
>>>>>>>> responsibility to have his products serviced and confirmed to be
in
>>>
>>>>>>>> good
>>>>>
>>>>>>>> working order, or be willing abide by the rules of the game if he
>>
>>>>>>>> accepts
>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Payment by PayPal. that's part of the beauty of PayPal..Seller
gets
>>>>> his
>>>>>>>> money immediately.....buyer has recourse if he gets crapped on.
Am
>>>I
>>>>>
>>>>>>>> being an asshole here?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
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>3=s
On 4 Jul 2007 20:35:56 +1000, "John" <no@no.com> wrote:
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>rick is still a man of many wordwhat was he selling?
On Wed, 4 Jul 2007 21:27:40 -0600, "DJ" <animix _ at _ animas _ dot _
net> wrote:
>I recently made an EBay purchase and received a confirmation from a guy
>named Dale with
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