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| Re: Dual Core AMD woes [message #68324 is a reply to message #68323] |
Wed, 17 May 2006 02:27   |
Kim
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>> bobp at sierratechnologies dot com
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>> Maybe if you could send him pictures of one, he could comment on it with
>> more confidence.
>>
>> He wrote, "Pricing would be $61.65 for a 1.5 foot cable and it could ship
>> in 3-4 days ARO".
>>
>> Hope this helps,
>>
>> Mike
>>
>>
>> "DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote:
>> >I'm looking for an external ribbon cable to an older 32bit Magma chassis.
>> >The cable is an 80 pin microcentronics (MC80) and the part name is
>CBL2PCI.
>> >It's a 3M branded connector.
>> >
>> >Calls to Magma have been about as useless as tits on a boar hog. I spent
>> the
>> >best part of yesterday trying to source one on the net with no luck.
Any
>> >suggestions as to where to find one or how to build one would be welcome.
>> >
>> >Thanks,
>> >
>> >Deej
>> >
>> >
>>
>
>Any ideas on how to eject a CD from a car stereo when the eject button won't
do the trick? I'm ready to try out the needle nose pliers, but before I get
to breakin' the CD, I thought maybe I'd see if anyone had a better idea.
Thanks gents,
MRHey, if it sounds good, it sounds good.
I keep coming back to, I think it was that Schnieder guru-mixer guy, whose
definition of mixing was "turning knobs until it sounds good."
Rock on,
MR
"DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote in message
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> I'm mastering a project with 12 songs. I've got about half of them nicely
> done. Just for grins, I opened up the *mastering* preset on the UAD-1
plate
> 140. This preset doesn't really even sound like a reverb at all. It's more
> like lifting the track off the ground and wrapping the audio in a silk
> kimono. It just provides air and sheen to the material, yet if you apply
it
> to a single track, it's not that great at all. It's a little retro
> sounding, but this
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| Re: Dual Core AMD woes [message #68325 is a reply to message #68323] |
Wed, 17 May 2006 02:29 |
Kim
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material is sorta' appropriate for it. I'm going to
sleep
> on this because my ears are getting tired. I'm almost embarrassed to use a
> *preset*, but I'll be damned if I can get anything sounding better by
> tweaking..........and then again, I would doubt that the folks at UA have
a
> bunch of putzes creating their presets. They sure did something nice with
> this one.
>
> ;o)
>
>Hi,
Does anyone know if the delaycomps with the UAD-1 work as well as the "nudge
it to the left" method. I rarely get near the VST limit , so if they do work
that might make my life easier.
They appear to work , but I'm not sure a) if they end up sample accurate
and b) if I should adjust the sampes delay for Fairchild etc.
Thanks,
DaveJohnny 5 need disassemble !!
"Mike R." <emarenot@yahoo.com> wrote:
>Any ideas on how to eject a CD from a car stereo when the eject button won't
>do the trick? I'm ready to try out the needle nose pliers, but before I
get
>to breakin' the CD, I thought maybe I'd see if anyone had a better idea.
>
>Thanks gents,
>MR
>
>Make and model of cd player?
Does the disc try to come out and get stuck or what?
db
"Mike R." <emarenot@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:4491a145$1@linux...
> Any ideas on how to eject a CD from a car stereo when the eject button
won't
> do the trick? I'm ready to try out the needle nose pliers, but before I
get
> to breakin' the CD, I thought maybe I'd see if anyone had a better idea.
>
> Thanks gents,
> MR
>
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Mike,
Look for a little hole big enough for a paperclip just below/above
the tray on the faceplate. Turn it off and try poking a paperclip end
right into that sucker. It may not have one in which case just sell the =
car
but charge extra for the CD.
Really,
Tom
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| Re: Dual Core AMD woes [message #68326 is a reply to message #68325] |
Wed, 17 May 2006 06:41 |
Rob
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Make and model of cd player?
Does the disc try to come out and get stuck or what?
db
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> Any ideas on how to eject a CD from a car stereo when the eject =
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> do the trick? I'm ready to try out the needle nose pliers, but =
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> Thanks gents,
> MR
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| Re: Dual Core AMD woes [message #68330 is a reply to message #68326] |
Wed, 17 May 2006 16:00 |
Kim
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>In order to use these in Paris, you have to instantiate one of them on each
Paris track, then set them to the maximim number of UAD plugins that can be
used on any give channel (4 including the Delay comp itself). then you can
instantiate a UAD-1 plugin on a Paris channel and reduce the number of UAD-1
plugins that this shannel is compensating for in the Delay comp for that
channel. since certain UAD-1 plugins have different delays, this can turn
inot a PITA, plus, while you're mixing, all of your tracks in the editor
will be be crossing the timeline long before you hear the audio because of
all of the Delay Comps you have on the channels so if you're using visual
editing, you're hosed.
I've tried this. Not recommended. Dimitrios has a more elegant way to do
this though that makes the nudge/slip method pretty manageable.
Deej
"Dave Geoghegan" <daveg@knowledgextensions.com> wrote in message
news:4491a222$1@linux...
>
> Hi,
>
> Does anyone know if the delaycomps with the UAD-1 work as well as the
"nudge
> it to the left" method. I rarely get near the VST limit , so if they do
work
> that might make my life easier.
>
> They appear to work , but I'm not sure a) if they end up sample accurate
> and b) if I should adjust the sampes delay for Fairchild etc.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Dave
>
>No way dude.........I'm going to corner the market on these, advertize them
on EBay and make a killing off all the poor schmucks like you and me who
have bad Magma cables and then I can retire. It's gonna cost you $250.00!!!
(seriously though........I'll be glad to share this ;o)
Bob said that to the best of his knowledge, the 80 pin microcentronics
cables were wired straight through. Guess we'll find out soon enough.
Thanks again for the lead on this. Hopefully it will work.
;o)
..
"mike audet" <mike@....> wrote in message news:44919e77$1@linux...
>
> Hi DJ,
>
> I'm glad I could help. I researched the shit out of trying to find one
someone
> who sold/made them, and Bob was the only guy I could find. I ended up
paying
> $120 for a used one because I couldn't get the specs from Magma to give to
> Bob.
>
> Would you mind posting the specs when you get the new cable back from Bob?
> I'll probably order a spare from him just i
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| Re: Dual Core AMD woes [message #68332 is a reply to message #68326] |
Wed, 17 May 2006 16:25 |
Kim
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gt; >
> >"Mike Audet" <mike@mikeF-SPAMaudet.com> wrote in message
> >news:448ef6b5$1@linux...
> >>
> >> Hi DJ,
> >>
> >> This guy said he could build one for me, but he wasn't sure of the
specs
> >> and couldn't guanatee it would be right.
> >>
> >> bobp at sierratechnologies dot com
> >>
> >> Maybe if you could send him pictures of one, he could comment on it
with
> >> more confidence.
> >>
> >> He wrote, "Pricing would be $61.65 for a 1.5 foot cable and it could
ship
> >> in 3-4 days ARO".
> >>
> >> Hope this helps,
> >>
> >> Mike
> >>
> >>
> >> "DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote:
> >> >I'm looking for an external ribbon cable to an older 32bit Magma
chassis.
> >> >The cable is an 80 pin microcentronics (MC80) and the part name is
> >CBL2PCI.
> >> >It's a 3M branded connector.
> >> >
> >> >Calls to Magma have been about as useless as tits on a boar hog. I
spent
> >> the
> >> >best part of yesterday trying to source one on the net with no luck.
> Any
> >> >suggestions as to where to find one or how to build one would be
welcome.
> >> >
> >> >Thanks,
> >> >
> >> >Deej
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
> >
> >
>A few API pre's would beef them up a bit for sure.
:)
"John" <no@no.com> wrote:
>
>I agree, so why not stop by the house and show me how. hehe
>
>"Aaron Allen" <nospam@not_here.dude> wrote:
>>Yes, I mean that it needs more wood/body sound.. a bigger and/or deeper
>
>>shell might get you there, perhaps mic techinique/type parameters... verb
>is
>>not going to help with this sound issue. Tuning the pitch might also help,
>
>>but I've found mostly it hurts other areas too much. You may also be able
>to
>>stack samples? Dunno, don't have a V kit here. If you do stack, make sure
>
>>that the sample 'hits' at the exact same time or risk phase holes.
>>
>>The best way to think of it is that what you start out with should be as
>
>>close as possible w/o any processing to what you want for an end result.
>>
>>AA
>>
>>
>>"John" <no@no.com> wrote in message news:44913e22$1@linux...
>>>
>>> See, that's where your refined ear can hear that through the verbs and
>
>>> compression.
>>> I'll redo them and go for a smaller kick and bigger snare. By bigger
>you
>>> don't mean verb right? You mean the physical size.
>>>
>>> "Aaron Allen" <nospam@not_here.dude> wrote:
>>>>The tones aren't close enough for a compressor to react the same way.
>The
>>>
>>>>snare is too small and the kick is too big on the low end.
>>>>No compressor is going to fix that.
>>>>
>>>>AA
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>"John" <no@no.com> wrote in message news:4490ac7d$1@linux...
>>>>>
>>>>> Others might suggest a better kick/snare in the TD20 but this is the
>
>>>>> Peart
>>>>> one for starters.
>>>>>
>>>>> http://tinyurl.com/gtacu
>>>>> http://tinyurl.com/ef2fj
>>>>>
>>>>> Lets see if anyone can get close to the compression, air and slapback
>>> that
>>>>> this has going on. Of course I don't expect miracles but have at it.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>> John
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>I choose Polesoft Lockspam to fight spam, and you?
>>>>http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>Drive in reverse really really fast and jam on the brakes?? ;-)
David.
Mike R. wrote:
> Any ideas on how to eject a CD from a car stereo when the eject button won't
> do the trick? I'm ready to try out the needle nose pliers, but before I get
> to breakin' the CD, I thought maybe I'd see if anyone had a better idea.
>
> Thanks gents,
> MR
>
>Hi Guys,
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| Re: Dual Core AMD woes [message #68334 is a reply to message #68332] |
Wed, 17 May 2006 16:48 |
Aaron Allen
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> plugins that this shannel is compensating for in the Delay comp for that
> channel. since certain UAD-1 plugins have different delays, this can turn
> inot a PITA, plus, while you're mixing, all of your tracks in the editor
> will be be crossing the timeline long before you hear the audio because of
> all of the Delay Comps you have on the channels so if you're using visual
> editing, you're hosed.
>
> I've tried this. Not recommended. Dimitrios has a more elegant way to do
> this though that makes the nudge/slip method pretty manageable.
>
> Deej
>
> "Dave Geoghegan" <daveg@knowledgextensions.com> wrote in message
> news:4491a222$1@linux...
>
>>Hi,
>>
>> Does anyone know if the delaycomps with the UAD-1 work as well as the
>
> "nudge
>
>>it to the left" method. I rarely get near the VST limit , so if they do
>
> work
>
>>that might make my life easier.
>>
>> They appear to work , but I'm not sure a) if they end up sample accurate
>>and b) if I should adjust the sampes delay for Fairchild etc.
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>>Dave
>>
>>
>
>
>excellent suggestion Dave!
d
"EK Sound" <askme@nospam.com> wrote in message news:4491c47d$1@linux...
> Drive in reverse really really fast and jam on the brakes?? ;-)
>
> David.
>
> Mike R. wrote:
>> Any ideas on how to eject a CD from a car stereo when the eject button
>> won't
>> do the trick? I'm ready to try out the needle nose pliers, but before I
>> get
>> to breakin' the CD, I thought maybe I'd see if anyone had a better idea.
>>
>> Thanks gents,
>> MR
>>If you need my address to send them, let me know. In the meantime, here's
the latest.
http://tinyurl.com/qrcam
You have a stereo pair, and kick,snare, hihat on separate wave files.
The comparison file is here: http://tinyurl.com/gtacu
Thanks,
John
"Paul" <pn@nospam.com> wrote:
>
>A few API pre's would beef them up a bit for sure.
>:)
>
>
>"John" <no@no.com> wrote:
>>
>>I agree, so why not stop by the house and show me how. hehe
>>
>>"Aaron Allen" <nospam@not_here.dude> wrote:
>>>Yes, I mean that it needs more wood/body sound.. a bigger and/or deeper
>>
>>>shell might get you there, perhaps mic techinique/type parameters... verb
>>is
>>>not going to help with this sound issue. Tuning the pitch might also help,
>>
>>>but I've found mostly it hurts other areas too much. You may also be able
>>to
>>>stack samples? Dunno, don't have a V kit here. If you do stack, make sure
>>
>>>that the sample 'hits' at the exact same time or risk phase holes.
>>>
>>>The best way to think of it is that what you start out with should be
as
>>
>>>close as possible w/o any processing to what you want for an end result.
>>>
>>>AA
>>>
>>>
>>>"John" <no@no.com> wrote in message news:44913e22$1@linux...
>>>>
>>>> See, that's where your refined ear can hear that through the verbs and
>>
>>>> compression.
>>>> I'll redo them and go for a smaller kick and bigger snare. By bigger
>>you
>>>> don't mean verb right? You mean the physical size.
>>>>
>>>> "Aaron Allen" <nospam@not_here.dude> wrote:
>>>>>The tones aren't close enough for a compressor to react the same way.
>>The
>>>>
>>>>>snare is too small and the kick is too big on the low end.
>>>>>No compressor is going to fix that.
>>>>>
>>>>>AA
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>"John" <no@no.com> wrote in message news:4490ac7d$1@linux...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Others might suggest a better kick/snare in the TD20 but this is the
>>
>>>>>> Peart
>>>>>> one for starters.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://tinyurl.com/gtacu
>>>>>> http://tinyurl.com/ef2fj
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Lets see if anyone can get close to the compression, air and slapback
>>>> that
>>>>>> this has going on. Of course I don't expect miracles but have at
it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>> John
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>I choose Polesoft Lockspam to fight spam, and you?
>>>>>http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>Hi Mike,
Thanks for the response. So here's what I don't understand:
I have two other drives that are larger than 137GB, 200GB and 250GB. I have
partitioned those drives into two partitions. The partitions show up in
Win98SE as two separate drives with unique drive letters. I have no problem
seeing and writing to the partitions. When I ask for properties on the partitions
they report their size correctly.
It's only the 400GB that is not working properly. I can only see two of
three partitions that I have made.
In my admittedly limited understanding of this issue, I thought that it is
only the size of the PARTITION that must be below 137GB - I can have as many
sub 137GB partitions on a drive as I'd like and the drive can be bigger than
137GB.
Am I mistaken? Are my 200GB and 250GB headed for data loss and I just haven't
experienced it yet? I seem to be getting both conflicting answers here and
conflicting results.
Thanks for any help.
Rich
"Mike Audet"
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| Re: Dual Core AMD woes [message #68433 is a reply to message #68332] |
Sat, 20 May 2006 19:51 |
Rob
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side there's a quad G5 that's been out for a while, and shortly
> >> there will be dual and perhaps quad Intel Macs out. Intel and AMD will
> >> battle on, and so it continues.
> >>
> >> As the CPU race goes on, nothing has yet been able to make my dual G5
> >> box obsolete for audio because it's already more than fast enough to
run
> >> Logic with a ton of tracks and amazing plugins. For what I do, it's a
> >> faster system to work with than anything I've used before.
> >>
> >> This dual G5 box also runs quiet (huge improvement over the G4) and
> >> drives a big monitor (or two), stock. It handles vast and fast hard
> >> drives, tons of RAM, and has great i/o support. And it runs an elegant
> >> modern operating system that made a clean and necessary break with past
> >> Apple OS baggage, and has been steadily upgraded and improved by Apple,
> >> which I appreciate.
> >>
> >> All of which means I spend very little time dealing with the computer
> >> itself. Which means more time using it.
> >>
> >> Back to your point, what will be quite interesting will be comparing
> >> Intel Macs with Intel boxes running other operating systems. That, at
> >> least, reduces the variables.
> >>
> >> Or Intel Macs running OSX vs. the same Intel Mac running another OS
> >> (Apple's "Bootcamp" allows you to run other operating systems on Intel
> >> Mac hardware).
> >>
> >> Then performance gets down to OS design efficiencies in data handling
> >> and workflow.
> >>
> >> Cheers,
> >> -Jamie
> >> http://www.JamieKrutz.com
> >>
> >>
> >> Dedric Terry wrote:
> >>> Hopefully I'm remembering this correctly, but I believe Brian T did a
> >>> comparison of Photoshop render tests between his dual dual cores at
> > Lakewood
> >>> and a new dual G5 (at the time, not a MacIntel) - the AMDs smoked it.
> > We've
> >>> had Macs for years, and that's the main reason I've stuck with a PC -
> > just
> >>> way faster for less money.
> >>>
> >>> All the Nuendo performance tests I've seen bear out the same results -
> > just
> >>> far more power to be had on a PC if you are willing to do some
research
> > and
> >>> build a system (buying one from a DAW builder will run close the same
as
> > a
> >>> Mac, but will be faster for the same money at least).
> >>>
> >>> No, Macs aren't crash prone, my wife's Mac kernel panics or locks up
3-5
> >>> times a day. The repair bill (a new motherboard - bad USB, I almost
> >>> positive) would be $700 so we are hanging on until we can buy or build
a
> > new
> >>> machine. Given the cost of a new Mac vs. building a new PC we are
> >>> considering the cost of crossgrading all of her software too, just as
an
> >>> option to have more speed and lower maintenance costs. I don't have
> >>> anything against Macs at all - if the new machines compete better in
> > speed
> >>> for the cost, we'll consider a Macintel.
> >>>
> >>> I bought a Mac when I got into Paris just because I wanted a simple
> > config
> >>> to run and go with - and it did offer that. However, Paris had issues
> > and
> >>> it crashed projects, but I found a workaround. After realizing how
much
> >>> power I gave up for the less cost (compared to plugin counts on PCs at
> > the
> >>> time), I went back to a PC.
> >>>
> >>> For folks that really like Macs better and don't need to squeeze every
> > last
> >>> ounce of power out of their investment, Macs are great machines.
> >>>
> >>> Oh, a little misnomer, Macs really are PCs...personal computers... :-)
> >>>
> >>> That would make a funny ad!
> >>>
> >>> Regards,
> >>> Dedric
> >>>
> >>> On 6/17/06 7:20 AM, in article 44940347@linux, "DJ"
> >>> <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>>> Mac G4 1.25 GHz ( about equivalent to a P4 2.8 GHz)
> >>>> .............so how do you arrive at this conclusion? Unless it's an
> > Altivec
> >>>> enabled program, it's gonna be 1.25GHz, isn't it? I've seen this kind
> > of
> >>>> propaganda put out by Apple for years saying that the the "Magic Mac"
> > CPU
> >>>> runs faster than an Intel or AMD CPU. I had an Intel PII 350 around
> > here for
> >>>> a while and it was roughly equivalent to my G4 400MHz machine
> > performance
> >>>> wise. Nothing special, to be sure.
> >>>>
> >>>> Thanks,
> >>>>
> >>>> Deej
> >>>>
> >>>> "James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> >>>> news:44936c3c$1@linux...
> >>>>> Well, yes and no. Would it be the same exact system for the same
kind
> > of
> >>>>> money, no. Obviously your system is quite unique, so I think it is
a
> >>>> little
> >>>>> unfair to ask if I could duplicate it exactly. I think you could
have
> > a
> >>>>> similar setup with all Macs and I think it would work a lot more
> > problem
> >>>>> free. Price never seems the be too much of an object, so here it
is.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Mac G4 1.25 GHz ( about equivalent to a P4 2.8 GHz) you could also
> >>>> upgrade
> >>>>> to 1.8GHz G4 for more power. The G4 has 4 PCI slots and 1 AGP slot.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Add a dual monitor PCI card for four monitors expanded desk top. Or
> > you
> >>>>> could add a four head AGP card and save a PCI slot.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Add Magma for 13 PCI slots this would give you up to 15 PCI slots.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> You can install 2GB of memory in the G4 and 4 HDs, plus external FW
> > HDs.
> >>>>> 16GB of memory in the G5. You also have Gigabit Ethernet on both
> >>>> machines
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| Re: Dual Core AMD woes [message #68440 is a reply to message #68433] |
Sat, 20 May 2006 22:26 |
Rob
Messages: 8
Registered: May 2006
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> > for
> >>>>> it
> >>>>>>> in the price of the Cadillac! Do you need a computer with a fancy
> >>>>>> aluminum
> >>>>>>> alloy case?, I don't know but you are paying for it in the price
of
> > the
> >>>>>> Mac!
> >>>>>>> Macs also cost more because they are not mass produced in the
> >>>> quantities
> >>>>>>> that PCs are. It's like saying Ferraris suck because they cost
five
> >>>> times
> >>>>>>> more than Cadillacs.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> There is other tangible and intangible value in the price of a
Mac,
> >>>> such
> >>>>>>> as your time, Macs just work! Almost no down time, there's not
> > much
> >>>>> time
> >>>>>>> spent on trying to get things to work. What is your time worth?
PC
> >>>> guys
> >>>>>>> here are constantly fussing with their PCs, IRQ conflicts,
hardware
> >>>>>> conflicts,
> >>>>>>> dll file issues, driver issues, malicious code and other
headaches.
> > If
> >>>>>>> you want to fuss, cool, but time is money.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> I think the Mac drivers are better, and they're built in. No need
to
> > go
> >>>>>> searching
> >>>>>>> for the drivers. The iLife software rocks! Figure about $100.00
a
> >>>>>> program,
> >>>>>>> and then figure in that they actually work! There is no need for
> > Anti
> >>>>>> Spyware
> >>>>>>> software, pop up blocking software. The need for anti virus
> > software
> >>>>> is
> >>>>>>> minimal, on a PC it is absolutely necessary if you are going on
the
> >>>>>> internet
> >>>>>>> and down loading anything. Viruses still get buy the software on
a
> > PC,
> >>>>>> what
> >>>>>>> does time and lost data cost? On a mac you don't have to be a
> > security
> >>>>>> administrator.
> >>>>>>> Macs are harder to hack.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> The united States Navy, Hues aircraft and Boeing did cost of
> > operation
> >>>>>> studies
> >>>>>>> in the past. It was something like 6 IT guys per 100 PCs to
> > maintain
> >>>>> and
> >>>>>>> administrate. It was 1 IT guy per 100 plus Macs to maintain and
> >>>>>> administrate.
> >>>>>>> Because of the lower labor costs, the over all costs for business
> > is
> >>>>>> lower
> >>>>>>> with macs.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> So Macs do cost more initially, but that cost is offset by the
time
> >>>> saved
> >>>>>>> and the rest of the above mentioned. You get what you pay for!
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> I think the MacBook is a reasonable deal for what you get.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> I'm not saying a Mac is perfect, it just looks that way next to a
> >>>> Windows
> >>>>>>> box!
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> I like my PCs too, I just know my Macs are better!
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> I say use what works for you.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> James
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> "Neil" <OIUOIU@OIU.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>>> OK, my turn...
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> FADE IN:
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> interior, bright, spacious room, background non-descript
> >>>>>>>>> PC (nerdy older guy) and MAC (younger guy) facing camera,
> >>>>>>>>> standing side by side between two computer monitors.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> MAC
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Hi, I'm a Mac.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> PC
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> And I'm a PC.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> MAC
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> I used to be different than him, but now I'm being built
> >>>>>>>>> like a PC with Intel chips & everything.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> PC
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Ummm... but you're still going to cost like three times as
> >>>>>>>>> much as a PC?
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> MAC
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Uhhh... Yeah! <winks at camera>
> >>>>>>>> FADE TO BLACK
> >
> >Well.........I'm convinced now. The GEForce video card has made the big
difference. I have let my computer sit with a Cubase SX project open for the
last hour and a half anbd I just went over to it and hit "play" on the
Houston controller. No screen freeze at all. Everything is working as I had
hoped. Very good news. I think that P750 is going to be up on EBay PDQ.
;o)
"DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote in message
news:44943583@linux...
> A while back, when I was in the throes of configiring my native DAW, I
> decided to stick wityh Matrox and replace my dual (AGP and PCI) Matrox
> G450's with a Matrox P750. Thad (somewhat vociferously/emphatically)
> responded that I should abandon Matrox entirely and go with a GE-Force
> graphics card. I was reluctant because I wanted 3 monitors. Well, I've
> jumped through quite a few hoops to use the P750 and I really don't like
> it's method of allowing the use of 3 x monitors. It's much better
> implemented when using two G450's than it is with the P750, IMO. Still I
was
> getting some wierdness when I had my LAN controller enabled and sometimes
> even when I didn't. Cutting back the number of monitors I had enabled to
two
> helped this some, but I still had to have my LAN controller disabled in
the
> BIOS..........and still, there would be an occasional screen freeze if I
> walked away from the computer for around 10 minutes. It wasn't a problem
as
> long as I was continuously using the machine, but letting it sit idle fro
a
> while would result in my returning to the project only to find my mouse
> frozen and requiring a hard reboot.
>
> I just installed a GEForce 5500 dual head. There is a big difference in
the
> way the system is running. It's one of those things that you dont really
> notice until you install a piece of hardware that works better than
another
> piece of hardware that you really didn't think was behaving badly.
>
> So far, so good. The system is operating very smoothly with the LAN
> controller enabled and since I was only using 2 monitors on my native
system
> most of the time, I'm not really missing the 3rd video head. I may try
> adding as GEForce 5500 PCI card. I'm pretty impressed by this hardware.
>
> I also just upgraded my AMD 64 dual core 4200 CPU to a 4400. It's making a
> bit of difference in my higher track count projects. Sort of like
providing
> that little more *oomph* to the system. Now I'm probably going to have to
> reauthoraze a bunch
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| Re: Dual Core AMD woes [message #75092 is a reply to message #75088] |
Sun, 29 October 2006 08:27 |
John [1]
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Registered: September 2005
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