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ndle the unit.
> >>
> >> And, the DP4's "early reflections" algo sounds wonderful, too. I have
> a
> >> lexicon MPX1, but I hardly ever use it. The DP4 gets used on
everything.
> >>
> >> The C3000 I bought 8 years ago is one of my favourite mics. It goes
for
> >> $150 used. Yes, it's a little noisy, and it needs more EQ than the C1
> to
> >> work on acoustic guitar, but sounds 1000 times better than a C1 when
you
> >> know what to do with it.
> >>
> >> We are so lucky to live in a time when great stuff is dirt cheap. Why
> >fight
> >> it?
> >>
> >> All the best,
> >> Mike
> >>
> >>
> >> "DJ" <animix_spam-this-aho
Re: Bomb attacks in London England [message #55660 is a reply to message #55659] Wed, 13 July 2005 12:09 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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le_@animas.net> wrote:
> >> >I actually have had one out of 4 Behringer devices that I've used over
> >the
> >> >years that worked correctly or was sonically worth using in the
studio.
> >> It
> >> >is called an Ultramatch Pro and I'm using it as a D/A converter right
> >now.
> >> >It says it does about 33822876 things. I don't know about that, but it
> >> >definitely works as a D/A converter as long as it isn't locked to my
> >house
> >> >clock. Luckily it's locked to the AES output of my Mytek converter
which
> >> is
> >> >feeding clock to the rest of my studio so in this case, it's a happy
> >> >accident. It doesn't do exactly what I want (I'd have to get two of
them
> >> to
> >> >actually accomplish something done the *normal* way), but it's an
> >acceptable
> >> >kludge for the moment. Maybe you'll get lucky. I will say
> >this........their
> >> >tech support personnel are all very nice folks. I probably spoke to
all
> >> of
> >> >them when my little fader control thingie went south and tried to take
> my
> >>
Re: Bomb attacks in London England [message #55712 is a reply to message #55647] Thu, 14 July 2005 09:41 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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;>>
>>>>the
>>>>
>>>>>>years that worked correctly or was sonically worth using in the
>>
>>studio.
>>
>>>>>It
>>>>>
>>>>>>is called an Ultramatch Pro and I'm using it as a D/A converter right
>>>>
>>>>now.
>>>>
>>>>>>It says it does about 33822876 things. I don't know about that, but
>>>>>>it
>>>>>>definitely works as a D/A converter as long as it isn't locked to my
>>>>
>>>>house
>>>>
>>>>>>clock. Luckily it's locked to the AES output of my Mytek converter
>>
>>which
>>
>>>>>is
>>>>>
>>>>>>feeding clock to the rest of my studio so in this case, it's a happy
>>>>>>accident. It doesn't do exactly what I want (I'd have to get two of
>>
>>them
>>
>>>>>to
>>>>>
>>>>>>actually accomplish something done the *normal* way), but it's an
>>>>
>>>>acceptable
>>>>
>>>>>>kludge for the moment. Maybe you'll get lucky. I will say
>>>>
>>>>this........their
>>>>
>>>>>>tech support personnel are all very nice folks. I probably spoke to
>>
>>all
>>
>>>>>of
>>>>>
>>>>>>them when my little fader control thingie went south and tried to
>>>>>>take
>>>
>>>my
>>>
>>>>>>Cubase rig along with it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>The D/A converter sounds good but I've got the Ultramatch Pro about
>>>>>>as
>>>>
>>>>far
>>>>
>>>>>>from my listening position as I can get it, just in case it explodes,
>>>
>>>or
>>>
>>>>>>something.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>the QC is absolutely awful from my experience, but if you get a
>>>>>>*good*
>>>>>>Behringer unit, you should be happy with it. I'd buy it from a brick
>>>
>>>and
>>>
>>>>>>mortar store so when you get it home and it doesn't work, you can
>>>>>>take
>>>
>>>it
>>>
>>>>>>back and exchange it over and over again until you find one that
>>>>>>works.........then add up the costs of your gasoline and time and you
>>>>
>>>>could
>>>>
>>>>>>have bought a Lynx Aurora.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Just a thought.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>;o)
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>"cyrille" <portscan@wanadoo.fr> wrote in message
>>
>>news:42ee0340$1@linux...
>>
>>>>>>>honestly i believe i will at least test with this one
>>>>>>>alesis stuff in it right?
>>>>>>>sometimes this brand doesn't make what they use to.
>>>>>>>noisy stuff hey hey, with 12 bit drum machines and old analog i
>>>>>>>HAVE
>>>
>>>TO
>>>
>>>>>>like
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>noise.
>>>>>>>ill give it a try, even if ill have to repaint it in black to fit
>>>>>>>in
>>>>
>>>>the
>>>>
>>>>>>>mec's/fx rack
>>>>>>>is there anything just on the class above ?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>"Mike Audet" <mike@MikeF-SPAMAudet.com> a écrit dans le message de
>>>>
>>>>news:
>>>>
>>>>>>>42ed8b25$1@linux...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Hi Cyrille,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Just get a Behringer ADA8000 and use it with your ADAT card for 8
>>>
>>>ins
>>>
>>>>>>and
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>8 outs. The outputs are a little noisy, but no where near as
>>
>>noisy
>>
>>>>>as a
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>DP/4. You'll be very happy with it.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>All the best,
>>>>>>>>Mike
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>"cyrille" <portscan@wanadoo.fr> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>3000$ ? for an aurora 16
>>>>>>>>>oups
>>>>>>>>>id rather find 2 8in + 1 8 out cards for such prices.... i aint
>>>
>>>a
>>>
>>>>pro
>>>>
>>>>>>who
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>can put so much on a converter.
>>>>>>>>>it's just to use 2 dp4's as sends you know...in a home studio.
>>>>>>>>>thx anyway for the advices, i now know one more stuff i can't
>>>>>>>>>buy
>>>>
>>>>;-))
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>"DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> a écrit dans le
>>>>>>>>>message
>>>
>>>de
>>>
>>>>>>>news:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>42ec409b@linux...
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>I saw a review by Fletcher on the Aurora. He was A/B'iing it
>>>>
>>>>against
>>>>
>>>>>>a
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Lavry
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>Blue. He said that it wasn't quite in the same ballpark but
>>
>>close.
>>
>>>>>>Then
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>he
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>hooked it up to an Apogee Big Ben and reported that it was
>>>>>>
>>>>>>practically
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>indistinguishable from the Lavry.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>........'course, buying an Aurora and a Big Ben would cost
>>
>>about
>>
>>>>>the
>>>>>
>>>>>>>same
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>as
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>a Lavry.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>;o)
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>"rick" <parnell68@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>>news:j57oe15qilp2no13g1coqhljrhmrr19o47@4ax.com...
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>lynx aurora. i've got lynx two and the rme fw 800; the lynx
>>>>
>>>>(two)
>>>>
>>>>>>so
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>far is the closest to paris. i can only imagine what the
>>
>>aurora
>>
>>>>>>>>>>>sounds like.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>On Sat, 30 Jul 2005 15:37:05 +0200, "cyrille"
>>>>
>>>><portscan@wanadoo.fr>
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>hi all
>>>>>>>>>>>>i'm looking for an 8 channel converters to add to my paris.
>>>>>>>>>>>>i need something quite good, that doesn't decrease the
>>
>>overall
>>
>>>>>>sound
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>quality
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>of the rig.
>>>>>>>>>>>>i saw frontier design tango 24
>>>>>>>>>>>>seems quite cheap on s/h
>>>>>>>>>>>>does any1 know this one or could recommend me something
>>
>>else?
>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>i could also trade the adat card for an 8i card.
>>>>>>>>>>>>thx anyone who answers
>>>>>>>>>>>>cyrille
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>
>>
>
>yeah... this is what I was thinging when I read your initial post...

these things are insane for the price....

only draw back is the small keys....


"Neil" <OIUOIU@IOU.com> wrote:
>
>"Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>"Aaron Allen" <nospam@not_here.dude> wrote:
>>>Find a cheapo controller and a used Roland JV-1010 half rack. Those make
>>
>>>pretty decent sounds, are expandable and should be right there in your
>price
>>
>>>range.
>>
>>I've heard good things about those for the money, and it's probably well
>>suited in that you get a selection of good sounds from a company very experienced
>>in the field, and it will be full of useful presets rather than having
to
>>mess with programming to get the sounds you want.
>>
>>Would probably be easier though if you could find an actual keyboard "all
>>in one" solution though I guess.
>
>
>what about one of those newer mini-Alesis thangs like the
>I noticed they cruise in around $399 street (new).
>
>Neilhey scott hows it goin?

"scott h" <fresnelmusic@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:42ef0532$1@linux...
>
> yeah... this is what I was thinging when I read your initial post...
>
> these things are insane for the price....
>
> only draw back is the small keys....
>
>
> "Neil" <OIUOIU@IOU.com> wrote:
>>
>>"Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>"Aaron Allen" <nospam@not_here.dude> wrote:
>>>>Find a cheapo controller and a used Roland JV-1010 half rack. Those make
>>>
>>>>pretty decent sounds, are expandable and should be right there in your
>>price
>>>
>>>>range.
>>>
>>>I've heard good things about those for the money, and it's probably well
>>>suited in that you get a selection of good sounds from a company very
>>>experienced
>>>in the field, and it will be full of useful presets rather than having
> to
>>>mess with programming to get the sounds you want.
>>>
>>>Would probably be easier though if you could find an actual keyboard "all
>>>in one" solution though I guess.
>>
>>
>>what about one of those newer mini-Alesis thangs like the
>>I noticed they cruise in around $399 street (new).
>>
>>Neil
>"Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:42eef408@linux...
>
> "Neil" <OIUOIU@OIU.com> wrote:
> >
> >I vote for Northcote, because you said you can get a house
> >there, and therefore have a slightly more proper recording
> >environment.
>
> Yeh, I'm fast settling on Northcote, which is a shame because it means no
> beach, but things exactly like that are very relavant. If I get a house I
> will have far better chance of getting away with some noise, far better
chance
> of getting some quiet, and far more space...
>
> ...I think this is starting to answer itself really. ;o)
>
> >Plus that 2nd place looks like a good spot to get laid as a
> >result of going to lol
>
> Hehe, well yes, didn't I mention that in my rundown? Must have slipped my
> mind... ;o)
>
> Cheers,
> Kim.

So this would be St. Mattress cathedral?There are definatly some mecs with noisy fans and some with quiet ones. I
always thought the mec fans were really quiet but have seen some posts about
problems with noise.
Yesterday, I had a power switch on my mec 2 decide to go bye-bye. I have
a spare mec for just such an occasion. I pulled the mec and switched out
5 in/out/adat modules to the spare mec. (which I'd to this point never used).
I switched it on and was rewarded with a hi-pitched wine (about the same
as a not so quiet athlon heatsink fan). crap!!!!!! so this is what people
talk about. There are definatly different fans used.
Luckily, the fan is pretty easy to replace....just pull the side off the
mec that has the fan. I was able to take the fan out of the mec with the
bum power switch and swap it out with the noisy one. All is good now. This
of course happened when I'm swamped and running behind...at least there were
no clients here at the time.

The quiet fan is made bu "Panflow" and the noisy one is made by
"Jamicon"
Now I just need to pick up a nice panflow and find a power switch to get
my other mec up to spec.
:-)
RodI had an Ensoniq MR76 for years. Cool keyboard. Lots of good sounds. The
midi implementation with computers was a nightmare because it was structured
around using it's own proprietary sequencer, but if you're just wanting
something with lots of cool sounds, the best drum machine I've heard in a
long while and 76 weighted keys, the MR76 (or ZR 76) is a cool tool. Also,
the MR Rack rocks also. I've got one here that I'm using with a Keystation
88 controller. Much more computer friendly this way.

Deej

"Mike" <spamthis@alltel.net> wrote in message news:42eeb27e@linux...
> I wanna keyboard!
>
> Im a guitarist, never owned a keyboard, cant play one and dont really plan
> on learning how to play. Im just looking to get something I can tinker
with
> and get some cool sounds out of. Either for weird effects or just adding
> ambience or filler type stuff to tracks. Im not really into messing around
> with soft synths so whatever I get should come with alot of sounds built
in
> though the ability to access external sounds would be a plus. My budget is
> around $400 or less.
>
> What would you guys suggest to fit my needs?
>
> Thanks in advance!
>
>"Rod Lincoln" <rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com> wrote:

>I switched it on and was rewarded with a hi-pitched wine

I find most chardonnays to be a bit high-pitched. :D


>The quiet fan is made bu "Panflow" and the noisy one is made by
>"Jamicon"

Jamicon... didn't that band have a big hit video some years ago
with "Vitual Insanity"?

:)"Rod Lincoln" <rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com> wrote:
>
>The quiet fan is made bu "Panflow" and the noisy one is made by
>"Jamicon"

Tha is probably Panasonic. When I was researching ceiling fans for studio
ventilation, I discovered that Panasonic has a series of very low noise fans...."Gary Flanigan" <gary_flanigan@ce9.uscourts.gov> wrote in message
news:42ef94ce$1@linux...
>
> "Rod Lincoln" <rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com> wrote:
> >
> >The quiet fan is made bu "Panflow" and the noisy one is made by
> >"Jamicon"
>
> Tha is probably Panasonic. When I was researching ceiling fans for studio
> ventilation, I discovered that Panasonic has a series of very low noise
fans....

Interesting,

I'll have to check mine, It makes virtually no noise at all.

dbInteresting session last night. Very talented players. Showed up fresh and
well rehearsed. I had spent a fair amount of time setting up for this with
two mic'ed bass amps and a bass DI (using a Little Labs STD and a Radial
Engineering JX2 Switchbone) and various mics set up for upright bass,
mandolin, guitar, vocals and dobro. All in all there were 9 active mics and
within 2 hours we had the better part of 6 songs in the can.

Then a bunch of their *friends* came by and so it was break time. When they
got in from the break they were so zoned that we spent the next 3 hours
trying to get 2 songs properly tracked. Never happened. Sloppy crap that
they will never be happy with, so their little *break* cost them a fair
chunk of change. My billing doesn't stop for this, but there was *grumbling*
about it because they weren't happy with how the second half of the session
went.

If I hear any more of this *grumbling* shit tonight, I'm going to throw them
out on their collective asses.

DJI am totally with you on this one... no sympathy at all for them. I
sat in the studio during one session for 4 hours while the group
members sat out in the lounge arguing about percentages of royalties
for the songs they were recording. No work was being done, I was just
sitting there on the clock. There were also other similar things that
happened during that session. When they got the bill they bitched
about the number of hours... then I reminded them of what happened.
Now if people don't show up prepared to work, I toss them out and
reschedule.

David.

DJ wrote:
> Interesting session last night. Very talented players. Showed up fresh and
> well rehearsed. I had spent a fair amount of time setting up for this with
> two mic'ed bass amps and a bass DI (using a Little Labs STD and a Radial
> Engineering JX2 Switchbone) and various mics set up for upright bass,
> mandolin, guitar, vocals and dobro. All in all there were 9 active mics and
> within 2 hours we had the better part of 6 songs in the can.
>
> Then a bunch of their *friends* came by and so it was break time. When they
> got in from the break they were so zoned that we spent the next 3 hours
> trying to get 2 songs properly tracked. Never happened. Sloppy crap that
> they will never be happy with, so their little *break* cost them a fair
> chunk of change. My billing doesn't stop for this, but there was *grumbling*
> about it because they weren't happy with how the second half of the session
> went.
>
> If I hear any more of this *grumbling* shit tonight, I'm going to throw them
> out on their collective asses.
>
> DJ
>
>
>
>
>I thought this thread was gonna be about that mastering app.

Have you ever read Mixerman's diary? :)

"DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote in message
news:42ef9f91$1@linux...
> Interesting session last night. Very talented players. Showed up fresh and
> well rehearsed. I had spent a fair amount of time setting up for this with
> two mic'ed bass amps and a bass DI (using a Little Labs STD and a Radial
> Engineering JX2 Switchbone) and various mics set up for upright bass,
> mandolin, guitar, vocals and dobro. All in all there were 9 active mics
> and
> within 2 hours we had the better part of 6 songs in the can.
>
> Then a bunch of their *friends* came by and so it was break time. When
> they
> got in from the break they were so zoned that we spent the next 3 hours
> trying to get 2 songs properly tracked. Never happened. Sloppy crap that
> they will never be happy with, so their little *break* cost them a fair
> chunk of change. My billing doesn't stop for this, but there was
> *grumbling*
> about it because they weren't happy with how the second half of the
> session
> went.
>
> If I hear any more of this *grumbling* shit tonight, I'm going to throw
> them
> out on their collective asses.
>
> DJ
>
>
>
>
>Steely Dan commented that they used to go in the studio and work 4 hours
on ONE song and nothing sounded right. Then they took a 2 hour lunch
and worked 4 more hours on the same song. Apparently the lunch gave
each time to digest the direction they wanted to go because they said
the later 4 hour session was very good. They did this routine day after
day working weeks on single songs.

EK Sound wrote:
> I am totally with you on this one... no sympathy at all for them. I sat
> in the studio during one session for 4 hours while the group members sat
> out in the lounge arguing about percentages of royalties for the songs
> they were recording. No work was being done, I was just sitting there on
> the clock. There were also other similar things that happened during
> that session. When they got the bill they bitched about the number of
> hours... then I reminded them of what happened. Now if people don't show
> up prepared to work, I toss them out and reschedule.
>
> David.
>
> DJ wrote:
>
>> Interesting session last night. Very talented players. Showed up fresh
>> and
>> well rehearsed. I had spent a fair amount of time setting up for this
>> with
>> two mic'ed bass amps and a bass DI (using a Little Labs STD and a Radial
>> Engineering JX2 Switchbone) and various mics set up for upright bass,
>> mandolin, guitar, vocals and dobro. All in all there were 9 active
>> mics and
>> within 2 hours we had the better part of 6 songs in the can.
>>
>> Then a bunch of their *friends* came by and so it was break time. When
>> they
>> got in from the break they were so zoned that we spent the next 3 hours
>> trying to get 2 songs properly tracked. Never happened. Sloppy crap that
>> they will never be happy with, so their little *break* cost them a fair
>> chunk of change. My billing doesn't stop for this, but there was
>> *grumbling*
>> about it because they weren't happy with how the second half of the
>> session
>> went.
>>
>> If I hear any more of this *grumbling* shit tonight, I'm going to
>> throw them
>> out on their collective asses.
>>
>> DJ
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>Yeh........I bought the book. I'm starting to relate.

;o)

"justcron" <justcron@hydrorecords.compound> wrote in message
news:42efae14@linux...
> I thought this thread was gonna be about that mastering app.
>
> Have you ever read Mixerman's diary? :)
>
> "DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote in message
> news:42ef9f91$1@linux...
> > Interesting session last night. Very talented players. Showed up fresh
and
> > well rehearsed. I had spent a fair amount of time setting up for this
with
> > two mic'ed bass amps and a bass DI (using a Little Labs STD and a
Radial
> > Engineering JX2 Switchbone) and various mics set up for upright bass,
> > mandolin, guitar, vocals and dobro. All in all there were 9 active mics
> > and
> > within 2 hours we had the better part of 6 songs in the can.
> >
> > Then a bunch of their *friends* came by and so it was break time. When
> > they
> > got in from the break they were so zoned that we spent the next 3 hours
> > trying to get 2 songs properly tracked. Never happened. Sloppy crap that
> > they will never be happy with, so their little *break* cost them a fair
> > chunk of change. My billing doesn't stop for this, but there was
> > *grumbling*
> > about it because they weren't happy with how the second half of the
> > session
> > went.
> >
> > If I hear any more of this *grumbling* shit tonight, I'm going to throw
> > them
> > out on their collective asses.
> >
> > DJ
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>I'm just fine with them spending as much time as they want to pay for. If
they want me to *turd polish* then that's OK too, though these guys are way
too good to really want that. I know them pretty well. They'll be back in
here wanting to do the songs again and they'll knock them out PDQ. I just
don't want to listen to a bunch of whiney crap about how they didn't like
the result they got in this studio and it's somehow my fault that they
didn't get good sounding takes so they shouldn't have to pay full rate.

Steelye Dan had a record label paying the bills to the studio. If I was
getting paid directly by a label and the musicians were bitching about the
$$$ to the label instead of to me, then for all I care, these guys could
pitch a tent in the back yard and have a slumber party on the clock.

;o)

"John" <no@no.com> wrote in message news:42efb436$1@linux...
> Steely Dan commented that they used to go in the studio and work 4 hours
> on ONE song and nothing sounded right. Then they took a 2 hour lunch
> and worked 4 more hours on the same song. Apparently the lunch gave
> each time to digest the direction they wanted to go because they said
> the later 4 hour session was very good. They did this routine day after
> day working weeks on single songs.
>
> EK Sound wrote:
> > I am totally with you on this one... no sympathy at all for them. I sat
> > in the studio during one session for 4 hours while the group members sat
> > out in the lounge arguing about percentages of royalties for the songs
> > they were recording. No work was being done, I was just sitting there on
> > the clock. There were also other similar things that happened during
> > that session. When they got the bill they bitched about the number of
> > hours... then I reminded them of what happened. Now if people don't show
> > up prepared to work, I toss them out and reschedule.
> >
> > David.
> >
> > DJ wrote:
> >
> >> Interesting session last night. Very talented players. Showed up fresh
> >> and
> >> well rehearsed. I had spent a fair amount of time setting up for this
> >> with
> >> two mic'ed bass amps and a bass DI (using a Little Labs STD and a
Radial
> >> Engineering JX2 Switchbone) and various mics set up for upright bass,
> >> mandolin, guitar, vocals and dobro. All in all there were 9 active
> >> mics and
> >> within 2 hours we had the better part of 6 songs in the can.
> >>
> >> Then a bunch of their *friends* came by and so it was break time. When
> >> they
> >> got in from the break they were so zoned that we spent the next 3 hours
> >> trying to get 2 songs properly tracked. Never happened. Sloppy crap
that
> >> they will never be happy with, so their little *break* cost them a fair
> >> chunk of change. My billing doesn't stop for this, but there was
> >> *grumbling*
> >> about it because they weren't happy with how the second half of the
> >> session
> >> went.
> >>
> >> If I hear any more of this *grumbling* shit tonight, I'm going to
> >> throw them
> >> out on their collective asses.
> >>
> >> DJ
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>Mike,

Deej says you're clocking a Rumour along with your Paris rig. I have some
specific questions about that, if you don't mind emailing me. Or, we can
handle it here.

Thanks!
JimmyHit video or not...they can't make a fan worth crap.
;-)
"Neil" <OIUOIU@OIU.com> wrote:
>
>"Rod Lincoln" <rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com> wrote:
>
>>I switched it on and was rewarded with a hi-pitched wine
>
>I find most chardonnays to be a bit high-pitched. :D
>
>
>>The quiet fan is made bu "Panflow" and the noisy one is made by
>>"Jamicon"
>
>Jamicon... didn't that band have a big hit video some years ago
>with "Vitual Insanity"?
>
>:)I thought that was because they were enjoying the el supremo in the room at
the top of the stairs.

Cheers!

Mark

John <no@no.com> wrote:
>Steely Dan commented that they used to go in the studio and work 4 hours

>on ONE song and nothing sounded right. Then they took a 2 hour lunch
>and worked 4 more hours on the same song. Apparently the lunch gave
>each time to digest the direction they wanted to go because they said
>the later 4 hour session was very good. They did this routine day after

>day working weeks on single songs.
>
>EK Sound wrote:
>> I am totally with you on this one... no sympathy at all for them. I sat

>> in the studio during one session for 4 hours while the group members sat

>> out in the lounge arguing about percentages of royalties for the songs

>> they were recording. No work was being done, I was just sitting there
on
>> the clock. There were also other similar things that happened during
>> that session. When they got the bill they bitched about the number of

>> hours... then I reminded them of what happened. Now if people don't show

>> up prepared to work, I toss them out and reschedule.
>>
>> David.
>>
>> DJ wrote:
>>
>>> Interesting session last night. Very talented players. Showed up fresh

>>> and
>>> well rehearsed. I had spent a fair amount of time setting up for this

>>> with
>>> two mic'ed bass amps and a bass DI (using a Little Labs STD and a Radial
>>> Engineering JX2 Switchbone) and various mics set up for upright bass,
>>> mandolin, guitar, vocals and dobro. All in all there were 9 active
>>> mics and
>>> within 2 hours we had the better part of 6 songs in the can.
>>>
>>> Then a bunch of their *friends* came by and so it was break time. When

>>> they
>>> got in from the break they were so zoned that we spent the next 3 hours
>>> trying to get 2 songs properly tracked. Never happened. Sloppy crap that
>>> they will never be happy with, so their little *break* cost them a fair
>>> chunk of change. My billing doesn't stop for this, but there was
>>> *grumbling*
>>> about it because they weren't happy with how the second half of the
>>> session
>>> went.
>>>
>>> If I hear any more of this *grumbling* shit tonight, I'm going to
>>> throw them
>>> out on their collective asses.
>>>
>>> DJ
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>"Mark McDermott" <mark@stateofwail.com> wrote:
>
>I thought that was because they were enjoying the el supremo in the room
at
>the top of the stairs.

No, just detecting it. :DHa! Good stuff. And you can bet that was the least of the stuff they were
"detecting" before, during, and after their sessions....

Jimmy


"Neil" <OIUIOU@OI.com> wrote in message news:42f00456@linux...
>
> "Mark McDermott" <mark@stateofwail.com> wrote:
> >
> >I thought that was because they were enjoying the el supremo in the room
> at
> >the top of the stairs.
>
> No, just detecting it. :D> Jamicon... didn't that band have a big hit video some years ago
> with "Vitual Insanity"?

Nah man.. that's one of the Transformers in disguise.

AA

"Neil" <OIUOIU@OIU.com> wrote in message news:42ef8801$1@linux...
>
> "Rod Lincoln" <rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com> wrote:
>
>>I switched it on and was rewarded with a hi-pitched wine
>
> I find most chardonnays to be a bit high-pitched. :D
>
>
>>The quiet fan is made bu "Panflow" and the noisy one is made by
>>"Jamicon"
>
> Jamicon... didn't that band have a big hit video some years ago
> with "Vitual Insanity"?
>
> :)Hi Jimmy,

I'm only using my Rumour with analog I/O right now, so it has to be set to
it's own internal clock.

To use an external clock source, set the Rumour's digital clock parameter
to "External" and it gets it's sync over the SPDIF from the external device.
The Digital Lock LED will light up solid when it syncs. If it flashes, it's
not sync'd

Highest it will do is 48k 24bit

I'd use it's SPDIF I/O, but my digital out on the Mec feeds my DAC-1.

Hope that helps.

What we need is a good AES/EBU box.(ahem) ;0)

Mike

"uptown jimmy" <johnson314@bellsouth.net> wrote:
>Mike,
>
>Deej says you're clocking a Rumour along with your Paris rig. I have some
>specific questions about that, if you don't mind emailing me. Or, we can
>handle it here.
>
>Thanks!
>Jimmy
>
>heheheheh!!!!!!!!!.........and right after the *detection* they started
production of Gaucho.

I still listen to *th' Dan*......a lot. The guitar instrumental on Third
world Man still gives me a rush.

;o)

"uptown jimmy" <johnson314@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
news:42f00fb6$1@linux...
> Ha! Good stuff. And you can bet that was the least of the stuff they were
> "detecting" before, during, and after their sessions....
>
> Jimmy
>
>
> "Neil" <OIUIOU@OI.com> wrote in message news:42f00456@linux...
> >
> > "Mark McDermott" <mark@stateofwail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > >I thought that was because they were enjoying the el supremo in the
room
> > at
> > >the top of the stairs.
> >
> > No, just detecting it. :D
>
>"DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote:
>"Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:42eef408@linux...
>>
>> "Neil" <OIUOIU@OIU.com> wrote:
>> >
>> >I vote for Northcote, because you said you can get a house
>> >there, and therefore have a slightly more proper recording
>> >environment.
>>
>> Yeh, I'm fast settling on Northcote, which is a shame because it means
no
>> beach, but things exactly like that are very relavant. If I get a house
I
>> will have far better chance of getting away with some noise, far better
>chance
>> of getting some quiet, and far more space...
>>
>> ...I think this is starting to answer itself really. ;o)
>>
>> >Plus that 2nd place looks like a good spot to get laid as a
>> >result of going to lol
>>
>> Hehe, well yes, didn't I mention that in my rundown? Must have slipped
my
>> mind... ;o)
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Kim.
>
>So this would be St. Mattress cathedral?

Now THAT is funny! :DA band out of state is wanting me to do some drum programming
on a song for them (the drummer's not available at this time...
Columbian prison or something - you know, typical drummer...
JUST KIDDING lol). Anyway, so the guy sends me a CD - audio
CD, not wav, even. and i'm supposed to strip out the click on
one channel & his rhythm guitar on the other & program a MIDI
drum track to match it, but..... (wait for it)
it drifts no matter what tempo i use; 81 is perfect for about a
minute in, then it starts drifting, 82 starts drifting too fast
almost instantly, 80 starts drifting too slow in the same
manner; i double it to 162 to get more precise "nudges", but
163 starts drifting too fast & 162 starts drifting too slow -
just takes longer to do it. Sorry, can't go up to 324, I tell
him, workstation won't go that high LOL He's not on a DAW, so
we can't exchange any kind of files directly.

I'm gonna have to program it from scratch by ear at 81 while
listening to his rhythm track on a regular CD player - uurgh.
Anyway, just griping... anyone else ever deal with this?

NeilYou'll need a DAW that allows you to set tempo in increments of 10ths or
100ths of a beat. Logic Pro can do it in 10,000ths (sheer overkill), and
you can change the tempo while you listen. Really handy for this sort of
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thing.

Cheers,
-Jamie K
http://www.JamieKrutz.com


Neil wrote:
> A band out of state is wanting me to do some drum programming
> on a song for them (the drummer's not available at this time...
> Columbian prison or something - you know, typical drummer...
> JUST KIDDING lol). Anyway, so the guy sends me a CD - audio
> CD, not wav, even. and i'm supposed to strip out the click on
> one channel & his rhythm guitar on the other & program a MIDI
> drum track to match it, but..... (wait for it)
> it drifts no matter what tempo
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i use; 81 is perfect for about a
> minute in, then it starts drifting, 82 starts drifting too fast
> almost instantly, 80 starts drifting too slow in the same
> manner; i double it to 162 to get more precise "nudges", but
> 163 starts drifting too fast & 162 starts drifting too slow -
> just takes longer to do it. Sorry, can't go up to 324, I tell
> him, workstation won't go that high LOL He's not on a DAW, so
> we can't exchange any kind of files directly.
>
> I'm gonna have to program it from scratch by ear at 81 while
> listening to his rhythm track on a regular CD player - uurgh.
> Anyway, just griping... anyone else ever deal with this?
>
> NeilI'll add a "ahem", too :)

"Mike Claytor" <claytor@nospam.com> wrote:
>
>Hi Jimmy,
>
>I'm only using my Rumour with analog I/O right now, so it has to be set
to
>it's own internal clock.
>
>To use an external clock source, set the Rumour's digital clock parameter
>to "External" and it gets it's sync over the SPDIF from the external device.
>The Digital Lock LED will light up solid when it syncs. If it flashes, it's
>not sync'd
>
>Highest it will do is 48k 24bit
>
>I'd use it's SPDIF I/O, but my digital out on the Mec feeds my DAC-1.
>
>Hope that helps.
>
>What we need is a goo
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d AES/EBU box.(ahem) ;0)
>
>Mike
>
>"uptown jimmy" <johnson314@bellsouth.net> wrote:
>>Mike,
>>
>>Deej says you're clocking a Rumour along with your Paris rig. I have some
>>specific questions about that, if you don't mind emailing me. Or, we can
>>handle it here.
>>
>>Thanks!
>>Jimmy
>>
>>
>Many programs have become good at this. I think Performer may be the best.
DP can examine the click (or any audio) and build a tempo map to match automaticly,
or you can manually drag bar lines to match audio and create a tempo map
from the moved bar lines.
Lots of helpful tricks. I hate quantizing drums, but I like quantizing midi
parts to a well played, but human drum part.

Drifting Click – Sounds like my “Indian Name” when I was 6 and in the Indian
Guides.

Gene


"Neil" <OIUIU@OIU.com> wrote:
>
>A band out of state is wanting me to do some drum programming
>on a song for them (the drummer's not available at this time...
>Columbian prison or something - you know, typical drummer...
>JUST KIDDING lol). Anyway, so the guy sends me a CD - audio
>CD, not wav, even. and i'm supposed to strip out the click on
>one channel & his rhythm guitar on the other & program a MIDI
>drum track to match it, but..... (wait for it)
>it drifts no matter what tempo i use; 81 is perfect for about a
>minute in, then it starts drifting, 82 starts drifting too fast
>almost instantly, 80 starts drifting too slow in the same
>manner; i double it to 162 to get more precise "nudges", but
>163 starts drifting too fast & 162 starts drifting too slow -
>just takes longer to do it. Sorry, can't go up to 324, I tell
>him, workstation won't go that high LOL He's not on a DAW, so
>we c
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an't exchange any kind of files directly.
>
>I'm gonna have to program it from scratch by ear at 81 while
>listening to his rhythm track on a regular CD player - uurgh.
>Anyway, just griping... anyone else ever deal with this?
>
>NeilYup, and here's how I handle it.

Pull the wav, split it out to two PAF files.
Drop those in Paris. Get a basic tempo, which you have already done.
Cut them both in the editor so that the first click starts right at the top.
Enable Grid.
set the tempo to be 8/4, or even 16/4.. you'll get better resolution doing
it this way.
Now, adjust the tempo in the project window until the last click is dead on
the beat

Done.

Surely you're editor of choice can do something similar??

AA


"Neil" <OIUIU@OIU.com> wrote in message news:42f02bee$1@linux...
>
> A band out of state is wanting me to do some drum programming
> on a song for them (the drummer's not available at this time...
> Columbian prison or something - you know, typical drummer...
> JUST KIDDING lol). Anyway, so the guy sends me a CD - audio
> CD, not wav, even. and i'm supposed to strip out the click on
> one channel & his rhythm guitar on the other & program a MIDI
> drum track to match it, but..... (wait for it)
> it drifts no matter what tempo i use; 81 is perfect for about a
> minute in, then it starts drifting, 82 starts drifting too fast
> almost instantly, 80 starts drifting too slow in the same
> manner; i double it to 162 to get more precise "nudges", but
> 163 starts drifting too fast & 162 starts drifting too slow -
> just takes longer to do it. Sorry, can't go up to 324, I tell
> him, workstation won't go that high LOL He's not on a DAW, so
> we can't exchange any kind of files directly.
>
> I'm gonna have to program it from scratch by ear at 81 while
> listening to his rhythm track on a regular CD player - uurgh.
> Anyway, just griping... anyone else ever deal with this?
>
> Neil"Aaron Allen" <nospam@not_here.dude> wrote:
>Yup, and here's how I handle it.
>
>Pull the wav, split it out to two PAF files.
>Drop those in Paris. Get a basic tempo, which you have already done.
>Cut them both in the editor so that the first click starts right at the
top.
>Enable Grid.
>
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set the tempo to be 8/4, or even 16/4.. you'll get better resolution doing

>it this way.
>Now, adjust the tempo in the project window until the last click is dead
on
>the beat
>
>Done.
>
>Surely you're editor of choice can do something similar??
>
>AA
>
>
That’s fine if the temp is “in between”, but not if the tempo actually drifts.
Gene

Automatically, Automatically, Automatically, Automatically!what he said.....you beat me Aaron. I probably learned it from you anyway.
Rod
"Aaron Allen" <nospam@not_here.dude> wrote:
>Yup, and here's how I handle it.
>
>Pull the wav, split it out to two PAF files.
>Drop those in Paris. Get a basic tempo, which you have already done.
>Cut them both in the editor so that the first click starts right at the
top.
>Enable Grid.
>set the tempo to be 8/4, or even 16/4.. you'll get better resolution doing

>it this way.
>Now, adjust the tempo in the project window until the last click is dead
on
>the beat
>
>Done.
>
>Surely you're editor of choice can do something similar??
>
>AA
>
>
>"Neil" <OIUIU@OIU.com> wrote in message news:42f02bee$1@linux...
>>
>> A band out of state is wanting me to do some drum programming
>> on a song for them (the drummer's not available at this time...
>> Columbian prison or something - you know, typical drummer...
>> JUST KIDDING lol). Anyway, so the guy sends me a CD - audio
>> CD, not wav, even. and i'm supposed to strip out the click on
>> one channel & his rhythm guitar on the other & program a MIDI
>> drum track to match it, but..... (wait for it)
>> it drifts no matter what tempo i use; 81 is perfect for about a
>> minute in, then it starts drifting, 82 starts drifting too fast
>> almost instantly, 80 starts drifting too slow in the same
>> manner; i double it to 162 to get more precise "nudges", but
>> 163 starts drifting too fast & 162 starts drifting too slow -
>> just takes longer to do it. Sorry, can't go up to 324, I tell
>> him, workstation won't go that high LOL He's not on a DAW, so
>> we can't exchange any kind of files directly.
>>
>> I'm gonna have to program it from scratch by ear at 81 while
>> listening to his rhythm track on a regular CD player - uurgh.
>> Anyway, just griping... anyone else ever deal with this?
>>
>> Neil
>
>"gene lennon" <glennon@NOSPmyrealbox.com> wrote:
>
>"Aaron Allen" <nospam@not_here.dude> wrote:
>>Yup, and here's how I handle it.
>>
>>Pull the wav, split it out to two PAF files.
>>Drop those in Paris. Get a basic tempo, w
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hich you have already done.
>>Cut them both in the editor so that the first click starts right at the
>top.
>>Enable Grid.
>>set the tempo to be 8/4, or even 16/4.. you'll get better resolution doing
>
>>it this way.
>>Now, adjust the tempo in the project window until the last click is dead
>on
>>the beat
>>
>>Done.
>>
>>Surely you're editor of choice can do something similar??
>>
>>AA
>>
>>
>That’s fine if the temp is “in between”, but not if the tempo actually drifts.
>Gene
>
>Automatically, Automatically, Automatically, Automatically!

I think Geno's right... it's somewhere "in between", and get
this... the problem is compounded by the fact that his click is
a hi-hat sample run through a digital delay & set to a loop.
CubaseSX will go down to 10th's of a beat on tempo settings,
but I could spend days trying to lock it & still have some
drift, considering all that. I'm gonna program the drums in the
Fantom at 81 BPM, re-play the rhythm guitar part for him on
another track for reference, so he knows where I'm at in the
song for each drum pattern or fill, etc.; and then he can re-
track the rhythm part on his end once he dumps in the drums to
play along with. At this stage that's all he's recorded (the
rhythm part along with his click) so it's not like they'll have
to toss bass track, vox, etc.

Still... ARRRGH! If they were working in ANY kind of DAW it
would be easier - could import scratch tracks, MIDI, etc.

NeilHey Deej,

Thanks a bunch for the suggestions.

It's getting kinda hard to find the Steinberg Midex 3's as they've been discontinued
(so have the Midex 8's) but they're usually in the $120 to $150 range if
you can find them. The super tight midi sync apparently only happens with
Steinberg software though. Why wouldn't I just be able to use the midi in
on the Sierra/Dakota rig at the Tracktion machine and a Midex (or something
like it) on the Paris box?

I might just sell the Dakota/Sierra rig. It's kinda overkill for what I'm
doing anyway. I'm thinking about picking up an Emu 1212m
and a one or two of the Emagic M4ti's midi interfaces that they are blowing
out at Guitar Center. Anyone had any experience with these pieces?

Thanks again,
Jon


"DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote:
>Jon,
>
>If you are using two computers, then a pair of the cheap Midex dual port
>units should solve your problem. Just hook them up to your USB ports on
each
>machine, set the Midex as your midi output device in the Paris configuration
>window, run midi cable from the midi output of the Midex unit that is
>attached to your Paris rig to the midi input of the Midex unit that is
>attached to your computer running Traktion and set the Midex to be the midi
>input device in the Traktion program and you should be good to go. From
what
>I've heard, the Midex is about as good as it gets for midi sync.......Tank
>wouldn't have done it any other way.
>
>The little puppies are doing fine these days........
>
>Cheers,
>
>;o)
>
>"Jon Jiles" <nospam@dude.com> wrote in message news:42edc418$1@linux...
>>
>> Thanks oh mighty snake eater!
>>
>> Ya know sometimes I wish I didn't love the way Paris sounds so much..
or
>> that they would have gotten the friggin' midi part right.. or that it
>supported
>> VSTi's ... or that it just plain was being updated and supported. All
I
>want
>> to do is write songs and record them well. This nerdy stuff gets
>frustrating.
>>
>> Oh well, looks like now I'm back to getting lost in kluge-land
>again....guess
>> I'll look into the hardware you suggested. It's still cheaper than
>replacing
>> Paris and nothing else sounds as good (that's affordable anyway).
>>
>> How are the pooches doing by the way!
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Jon
>>
>>
>> "DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@anim
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any remaining true audio tracks in Paris.
>> >
>> >With you so far.
>> >>
>> >> I want to use Paris to control Tracktion. I'm using the Frontier Design
>> >Dakota/Sierra
>> >> configuration as the audio/midi card in the Tracktion machine and
>having
>> >> a hell of a time getting Sync to happen properly with my Paris rig.
I
>> >can't
>> >> use the ADAT sync out of Paris v3 in Xp because of the known ADAT
>issues
>> >> in Paris Xpv3 (you can't even drive a regular ADAT with it)
>> >
>> >The ADAT modules send ADAT timecode in Paris XP, the same as they do
in
>> Win
>> >9x. The Paris SX driver doesn't recognize ADAT machines, but the module
>> >sends timecode just fine.
>> >
>> >I stopped having luck with the Dakota card once I upgraded from Cubase
>v1.6
>> >to v2.0 because I was no longer able to match the buffer settings in
the
>> >Cubase SX application to the buffer settings in the Dakota control panel.
>> My
>> >theory is that for some reason, the Dakota ADAT sync input doesn't allow
>> the
>> >system to lock up properly to incoming Paris ADAT sync if the sync
>settings
>> >can't be matched in the actual audio application and the Dakota control
>> >panel. No clue why. I don't know about Traktion, but an RME card works
>> >flawlessly with Paris ADAT sync in Cubase SX.
>> >
>> >and it doesn't
>> >> appear that I have any other alternative but to stripe a SMPTE track
in
>> >Paris
>> >> and use that to drive the Sierra/Dakota which converts the SMPTE to
MTC
>> >which
>> >> Tracktion understands. My attempts at this approach are making me want
>> to
>> >> buy an Sm-58, a 4 track Syncassette and a cheesey drum machine!
>> >
>> >Brian T. posted a while back that he was using a pair of Steinberg MidEX
>> >interfaces to lock Paris to Nuendo.This might be the ticket for you.
>> >>
>> >> The Tracktion 2 MTC timecode set-up only has settings of 24, 25 or
30
>> fps
>> >> and no df or nd settings.Still I can get things to sync visually
>(frames
>> >> match in Paris and Tracktion interfaces) but get no audio until I hit
>> stop
>> >> on the C16 and catch the tail of the last note(s) playing in Tracktion.
>> If
>> >> I unlock Tracktion from Paris altogether Tracktion audio plays back
>fine
>> >> through Paris.(Sounds great actually - BFD is a great tool)
>> >
>> >Yep, sounds like som sort of buffer issue you have there.
>> >>
>> >> Anyway, any ideas as to what I am doing wrong here or what the problem
>> >might
>> >> be or even another approach I might take? I know I'm not worthy, but
I
>> >almost
>> >> feel deej-like here in terms of my self imposed convolution!
>> >
>> >I heard rumors that he accidentally tripped behind his equipment rack
and
>> >was devoured by snakes.
>> >
>> >>
>> >> Any help is greatly appreciated!
>> >>
>> >> Cheers,
>> >> Jon
>> >
>> >If the card don't fit, you must quit.......RME=problem free
>> >
>> >The snake eater.
>> >;o)
>> >
>> >
>>
>
>
>Hey Tone,

I'm using the latest Dakota ASIO driver from Frontier Design on my Tracktion
box.

Cheers,
jj

"tonehouse" <zmcleod@comcast.net> wrote:
>Hi folks..I have Traktion and Cubase and don't know how you are attempting
>any of this..Is it with 2 computers? Is it using ASIO from PARIS or which
>application?...in the dark...
>"Jon Jiles" <nospam@dude.com> wrote in message news:42ed4bfd$1@linux...
>>
>> After playing around a bit, I decided to buy Mackie's Tracktion 2 and
use
>> it as a front end to Paris, sort of how some of you seem to be using
>Cubase.It's
>> really pretty inuitive as a songwriting tool if I can ever get what I'm
>trying
>> to do here to work. I'll be using Tracktion 2 mostly as a sequencer/VSTi
>> host for BFD, etc. to flesh out song ideas and then sum it through Paris
>> while doing any remaining true audio tracks in Paris.
>>
>> I want to use Paris to control Tracktion. I'm using the Frontier Design
>Dakota/Sierra
>> configuration as the audio/midi card in the Tracktion machine and having
>> a hell of a time getting Sync to happen properly with my Paris rig. I
>can't
>> use the ADAT sync out of Paris v3 in Xp because of the known ADAT issues
>> in Paris Xpv3 (you can't even drive a regular ADAT with it) and it doesn't
>> appear that I have any othe
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r alternative but to stripe a SMPTE track in
>Paris
>> and use that to drive the Sierra/Dakota which converts the SMPTE to MTC
>which
>> Tracktion understands. My attempts at this approach are making me want
to
>> buy an Sm-58, a 4 track Syncassette and a cheesey drum machine!
>>
>> The Tracktion 2 MTC timecode set-up only has settings of 24, 25 or 30
fps
>> and no df or nd settings.Still I can get things to sync visually (frames
>> match in Paris and Tracktion interfaces) but get no audio until I hit
stop
>> on the C16 and catch the tail of the last note(s) playing in Tracktion.
If
>> I unlock Tracktion from Paris altogether Tracktion audio plays back fine
>> through Paris.(Sounds great actually - BFD is a great tool)
>>
>> Anyway, any ideas as to what I am doing wrong here or what the problem
>might
>> be or even another approach I might take? I know I'm not worthy, but I
>almost
>> feel deej-like here in terms of my self imposed convolution!
>>
>> Any help is greatly appreciated!
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Jon
>
>I've been experiencing a similar problem on an Ensoniq keyboard. We
originally used a preprogrammed drum pattern, laid it down, and tracked
everything to it. Our drummer hasn't been able to show up, so we tried
buiding a drum part phrase by phrase, and pasting it together all at the
same tempo. No matter what we used in the studio for mtc source, the
new part drifted about 91 milliseconds over the 4 minute song. Tried
using time compression but the drift wasn't linear. Now we're looking at
through composing the drum parts to get them lined up with the original
tempo...

Where have all the drummers gone....(in shades of Peter Paul and Mary)

JH



Neil wrote:
> "gene lennon" <glennon@NOSPmyrealbox.com> wrote:
>
>>"Aaron Allen" <nospam@not_here.dude> wrote:
>>
>>>Yup, and here's how I handle it.
>>>
>>>Pull the wav, split it out to two PAF files.
>>>Drop those in Paris. Get a basic tempo, which you have already done.
>>>Cut them both in the editor so that the first click starts right at the
>>
>>top.
>>
>>>Enable Grid.
>>>set the tempo to be 8/4, or even 16/4.. you'll get better resolution doing
>>
>>>it this way.
>>>Now, adjust the tempo in the project window until the last click is dead
>>
>>on
>>
>>>the beat
>>>
>>>Done.
>>>
>>>Surely you're editor of choice can do something similar??
>>>
>>>AA
>>>
>>>
>>
>>That’s fine if the temp is “in between”, but not if the tempo actually drifts.
>>Gene
>>
>>Automatically, Automatically, Automatically, Automatically!
>
>
> I think Geno's right... it's somewhere "in between", and get
> this... the problem is compounded by the fact that his click is
> a hi-hat sample run through a digital delay & set to a loop.
> CubaseSX will go down to 10th's of a beat on tempo settings,
> but I could spend days trying to lock it & still have some
> drift, considering all that. I'm gonna program the drums in the
> Fantom at 81 BPM, re-play the rhythm guitar part for him on
> another track for reference, so he knows where I'm at in the
> song for each drum pattern or fill, etc.; and then he can re-
> track the rhythm part on his end once he dumps in the drums to
> play along with. At this stage that's all he's recorded (the
> rhythm part along with his click) so it's not like they'll have
> to toss bass track, vox, etc.
>
> Still... ARRRGH! If they were working in ANY kind of DAW it
> would be easier - could import scratch tracks, MIDI, etc.
>
> NeilAhem noted.

;oP

"John Macy" <spamlessjohn@johnmacymacy.com> wrote in message
news:42f0360c@linux...
>
>
> I'll add a "ahem", too :)
>
> "Mike Claytor" <claytor@nospam.com> wrote:
> >
> >Hi Jimmy,
> >
> >I'm only using my Rumour with analog I/O right now, so it has to be set
> to
> >it's own internal clock.
> >
> >To use an external clock source, set the Rumour's digital clock parameter
> >to "External" and it gets it's sync over the SPDIF from the external
device.
> >The Digital Lock LED will light up solid when it syncs. If it flashes,
it's
> >not sync'd
> >
> >Highest it will do is 48k 24bit
> >
> >I'd use it's SPDIF I/O, but my digital out on the Mec feeds my DAC-1.
> >
> >Hope that helps.
> >
> >What we need is a good AES/EBU box.(ahem) ;0)
> >
> >Mike
> >
> >"uptown jimmy" <johnson314@
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so that the first click starts right at the
> top.
>>Enable Grid.
>>set the tempo to be 8/4, or even 16/4.. you'll get better resolution doing
>
>>it this way.
>>Now, adjust the tempo in the project window until the last click is dead
> on
>>the beat
>>
>>Done.
>>
>>Surely you're editor of choice can do something similar??
>>
>>AA
>>
>>
>>"Neil" <OIUIU@OIU.com> wrote in message news:42f02bee$1@linux...
>>>
>>> A band out of state is wanting me to do some drum programming
>>> on a song for them (the drummer's not available at this time...
>>> Columbian prison or something - you know, typical drummer...
>>> JUST KIDDING lol). Anyway, so the guy sends me a CD - audio
>>> CD, not wav, even. and i'm supposed to strip out the click on
>>> one channel & his rhythm guitar on the other & program a MIDI
>>> drum track to match it, but..... (wait for it)
>>> it drifts no matter what tempo i use; 81 is perfect for about a
>>> minute in, then it starts drifting, 82 starts drifting too fast
>>> almost instantly, 80 starts drifting too slow in the same
>>> manner; i double it to 162 to get more precise "nudges", but
>>> 163 starts drifting too fast & 162 starts drifting too slow -
>>> just takes longer to do it. Sorry, can't go up to 324, I tell
>>> him, workstation won't go that high LOL He's not on a DAW, so
>>> we can't exchange any kind of files directly.
>>>
>>> I'm gonna have to program it from scratch by ear at 81 while
>>> listening to his rhythm track on a regular CD player - uurgh.
>>> Anyway, just griping... anyone else ever deal with this?
>>>
>>> Neil
>>
>>
>>>So this would be St. Mattress cathedral?
>
>Now THAT is funny! :D

I´m obviously missing a reference here... I don´t get it...

Cheers,
Kim (the stupid ;o)i would just play them one straight and one "happy" pass and tell them
you don't have time for the second especially if paying is not f[art
of the fun.

i know what you mean about the blame game. one bands financial backer
blamed me for the projects delay when the singer had a 6 week bout
with laryngitis.

On Tue, 2 Aug 2005 19:32:14 -0600, "DJ"
<animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote:

>heheheheh!!!!!!!!!.........and right after the *detection* they started
>production of Gaucho.
>
>I still listen to *th' Dan*......a lot. The guitar instrumental on Third
>world Man still gives me a rush.
>
>;o)
>
>"uptown jimmy" <johnson314@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
>news:42f00fb6$1@linux...
>> Ha! Good stuff. And you can bet that was the least of the stuff they were
>> "detecting" before, during, and after their sessions....
>>
>> Jimmy
>>
>>
>> "Neil" <OIUIOU@OI.com> wrote in message news:42f00456@linux...
>> >
>> > "Mark McDermott" <mark@stateofwail.com> wrote:
>> > >
>> > >I thought that was because they were enjoying the el supremo in the
>room
>> > at
>> > >the top of the stairs.
>> >
>> > No, just detecting it. :D
>>
>>
>Let's just say lunch inspired them !!!

Mark McDermott wrote:
> I thought that was because they were enjoying the el supremo in the room at
> the top of the stairs.
>
> Cheers!
>
> Mark
>
> John <no@no.com> wrote:
>
>>Steely Dan commented that they used to go in the studio and work 4 hours
>
>
>>on ONE song and nothing sounded right. Then they took a 2 hour lunch
>>and worked 4 more hours on the same song. Apparently the lunch gave
>>each time to digest the direction they wanted to go because they said
>>the later 4 hour session was very good. They did this routine day after
>
>
>>day working weeks on single songs.
>>
>>EK Sound wrote:
>>
>>>I am totally with you on this one... no sympathy at all for them. I sat
>
>
>>>in the studio during one session for 4 hours while the group members sat
>
>
>>>out in the lounge arguing about percentages of royalties for the songs
>
>
>>>they were recording. No work was being done, I was just sitting there
>
> on
>
>>>the clock. There were also other similar things that happened during
>>>that session. When they got the bill they bitched about the number of
>
>
>>>hours... then I reminded them of what happened. Now if people don't show
>
>
>>>up prepared to work, I toss them out and reschedule.
>>>
>>>David.
>>>
>>>DJ wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>Interesting session last night. Very talented players. Showed up fresh
>
>
>>>>and
>>>>well rehearsed. I had spent a fair amount of time setting up for this
>
>
>>>>with
>>>>two mic'ed bass amps and a bass DI (using a Little Labs STD and a Radial
>>>>Engineering JX2 Switchbone) and various mics set up for upright bass,
>>>>mandolin, guitar, vocals and dobro. All in all there were 9 active
>>>>mics and
>>>>within 2 hours we had the better part of 6 songs in the can.
>>>>
>>>>Then a bunch of their *friends* came by and so it was break time. When
>
>
>>>>they
>>>>got in from the break they were so zoned that we spent the next 3 hours
>>>>trying to get 2 songs properly tracked. Never happened. Sloppy crap that
>>>>they will never be happy with, so their little *break* cost them a fair
>>>>chunk of change. My billing doesn't stop for this, but there was
>>>>*grumbling*
>>>>about it because they weren't happy with how the second half of the
>>>>session
>>>>went.
>>>>
>>>>If I hear any more of this *grumbling* shit tonight, I'm going to
>>>>throw them
>>>>out on their collective asses.
>>>>
>>>>DJ
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>
>I mean smoker/drinker or not, you gotta admit that bars just aint the same
without that cloud and it feels like something has been taken away from
life.You're probably really fast at this sort of thing, but me, it'd take hours.
What about hiring a drummer (maybe hitting midi pads or using drumagog???)
A good hitter could nail the track in 1-3 takes. Just a thought.
MR

"Neil" <OIUIU@OIU.com> wrote:
>
>A band out of state is wanting me to do some drum programming
>on a song for them (the drummer's not available at this time...
>Columbian prison or something - you know, typical drummer...
>JUST KIDDING lol). Anyway, so the guy sends me a CD - audio
>CD, not wav, even. and i'm supposed to strip out the click on
>one channel & his rhythm guitar on the other & program a MIDI
>drum track to match it, but..... (wait for it)
>it drifts no matter what tempo i use; 81 is perfect for about a
>minute in, then it starts drifting, 82 starts drifting too fast
>almost instantly, 80 starts drifting too slow in the same
>manner; i double it to 162 to get more precise "nudges", but
>163 starts drifting too fast & 162 starts drifting too slow -
>just takes longer to do it. Sorry, can't go up to 324, I tell
>him, workstation won't go that high LOL He's not on a DAW, so
>we can't exchange any kind of files directly.
>
>I'm gonna have to program it from scratch by ear at 81 while
>listening to his rhythm track on a regular CD player - uurgh.
>Anyway, just griping... anyone else ever deal with this?
>
>NeilWent out to eat last night -the place had a bar. Put on the same pants this
morning and for a moment thought: "whoa boy those pants 'll smell." At the
conclusion of this mini brain fart I remembered the place was smoke free.
However, if I do need a little hit of nostalgia, I pull out my old six
string (played in many a smoke filled bar in the 70's and 80's) stick my
nose in the sound hole and inhale. And yes, midst the momentary whiff of
stale smoke, I recall thrity or so people on their backs in a puddle of beer
on the floor, doing a kind of reptillian hokey pokey...
MR :)

"justcron" <justcron@hydrorecords.compound> wrote:
>I mean smoker/drinker or not, you gotta admit that bars just aint the same
>without that cloud and it feels like something has been taken away from

>life.
>
>
>
>
>As a reformed smoker, I couldn't be happier about it. That's the main reasons
I quit playing clubs a few years back. Was killing me. Of course here in
good old NC, it'll be a cold day in hell before we'll have smokefree bars.

"justcron" <justcron@hydrorecords.compound> wrote:
>I mean smoker/drinker or not, you gotta admit that bars just aint the same
>without that cloud and it feels like something has been taken away from

>life.
>
>
>
>
>I know this is gonna sound stupid, but have you ever thought of just
"playing" the drums rather than programing them? I'm assuming that you have
a midi capable keyboard or some other triggering device. A very good friend
of mine would literally play a DMT-8 like a drummer would, and we would
record the kick, snare, and toms in one pass, then the cymbals in another.
Once he recorded everthing, I would go into Cubase (what we were running at
the time) and manually correct the hits that were too noticebly out of time
to leave. I would try to set the tempo to double what it was (similar to
you moving up to 162), that way I had an easier time moving the midi notes
around. You really got a live or real drummer feel by doing this.

It actually went much faster this way, then when I tried to program drums
myself.

Just an idea, if you really get stuck! :)

Stephen

We
"Neil" <OIUIU@OIU.com> wrote in message news:42f02bee$1@linux...
>
> A band out of state is wanting me to do some drum programming
> on a song for them (the drummer's not available at this time...
> Columbian prison or something - you know, typical drummer...
> JUST KIDDING lol). Anyway, so the guy sends me a CD - audio
> CD, not wav, even. and i'm supposed to strip out the click on
> one channel & his rhythm guitar on the other & program a MIDI
> drum track to match it, but..... (wait for it)
> it drifts no matter what tempo i use; 81 is perfect for about a
> minute in, then it starts drifting, 82 starts drifting too fast
> almost instantly, 80 starts drifting too slow in the same
> manner; i double it to 162 to get more precise "nudges", but
> 163 starts drifting too fast & 162 starts drifting too slow -
> just takes longer to do it. Sorry, can't go up to 324, I tell
> him, workstation won't go that high LOL He's not on a DAW, so
> we can't exchange any kind of files directly.
>
> I'm gonna have to program it from scratch by ear at 81 while
> listening to his rhythm track on a regular CD player - uurgh.
> Anyway, just griping... anyone else ever deal with this?
>
> NeilHi Neil,
If the click track isnt noisy Cubase should be able to make a tempo map
of the it by detecting hit points on the file. This will cause the click
track in Cubase to follow any changes in tempo.


Chris


Neil wrote:

> A band out of state is wanting me to do some drum programming
> on a song for them (the drummer's not available at this time...
> Columbian prison or something - you know, typical drummer...
> JUST KIDDING lol). Anyway, so the guy sends me a CD - audio
> CD, not wav, even. and i'm supposed to strip out the click on
> one channel & his rhythm guitar on the other & program a MIDI
> drum track to match it, but..... (wait for it)
> it drifts no matter what tempo i use; 81 is perfect for about a
> minute in, then it starts drifting, 82 starts drifting too fast
> almost instantly, 80 starts drifting too slow in the same
> manner; i double it to 162 to get more precise "nudges", but
> 163 starts drifting too fast & 162 starts drifting too slow -
> just takes longer to do it. Sorry, can't go up to 324, I tell
> him, workstation won't go that high LOL He's not on a DAW, so
> we can't exchange any kind of files directly.
>
> I'm gonna have to program it from scratch by ear at 81 while
> listening to his rhythm track on a regular CD player - uurgh.
> Anyway, just griping... anyone else ever deal with this?
>
> Neil

--
Chris Ludwig
ADK
chrisl@adkproaudio.com <mailto:chrisl@adkproaudio.com>
www.adkproaudio.com <http://www.adkproaudio.com/>
(859) 635-5762One of my all-time favs is still Aja... first CD I ever bought... even
before I had anything to play it on!! :-)

David.

DJ wrote:
> heheheheh!!!!!!!!!.........and right after the *detection* they started
> production of Gaucho.
>
> I still listen to *th' Dan*......a lot. The guitar instrumental on Third
> world Man still gives me a rush.
>
> ;o)
>
> "uptown jimmy" <johnson314@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
> news:42f00fb6$1@linux...
>
>>Ha! Good stuff. And you can bet that was the least of the stuff they were
>>"detecting" before, during, and after their sessions....
>>
>>Jimmy
>>
>>
>>"Neil" <OIUIOU@OI.com> wrote in message news:42f00456@linux...
>>
>>>"Mark McDermott" <mark@stateofwail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>I thought that was because they were enjoying the el supremo in the
>
> room
>
>>>at
>>>
>>>>the top of the stairs.
>>>
>>>No, just detecting it. :D
>>
>>
>
>Personally, I can't wait till they get rid of smoking from bars/pubs
here... I get back from some gigs and want throw away my clothes
rather than bring them into the house.

David

justcron wrote:

> I mean smoker/drinker or not, you gotta admit that bars just aint the same
> without that cloud and it feels like something has been taken away from
> life.
>
>
>
>
>Cubase/Nuendo has a feature where you can set the bar markers to the
actual audio, thereby allowing the sequencing and subsequent
quantizing of midi events to the aforementioned audio. :-)

David.

Neil wrote:

> A band out of state is wanting me to do some drum programming
> on a song for them (the drummer's not available at this time...
> Columbian prison or something - you know, typical drummer...
> JUST KIDDING lol). Anyway, so the guy sends me a CD - audio
> CD, not wav, even. and i'm supposed to strip out the click on
> one channel & his rhythm guitar on the other & program a MIDI
> drum track to match it, but..... (wait for it)
> it drifts no matter what tempo i use; 81 is perfect for about a
> minute in, then it starts drifting, 82 starts drifting too fast
> almost instantly, 80 starts drifting too slow in the same
> manner; i double it to 162 to get more precise "nudges", but
> 163 starts drifting too fast & 162 starts drifting too slow -
> just takes longer to do it. Sorry, can't go up to 324, I tell
> him, workstation won't go that high LOL He's not on a DAW, so
> we can't exchange any kind of files directly.
>
> I'm gonna have to program it from scratch by ear at 81 while
> listening to his rhythm track on a regular CD player - uurgh.
> Anyway, just griping... anyone else ever deal with this?
>
> NeilYeah, I've got an "ahem" as well. Deej......

So Mike, what I want to do is clock a 3-MEC system from a Lucid clock via
BNC. Will the Rumour pick up the clcok signal via SPDIF from an MEC? And I
guess if it will do that it will pick the signal up with a Digipatch in the
way as well...I'm adding a Mangler soon....

Thanks!
Jimmy


"Mike Claytor" <claytor@nospam.com> wrote in message
news:42f01da4$1@linux...
>
> Hi Jimmy,
>
> I'm only using my Rumour with analog I/O right now, so it has to be set to
> it's own internal clock.
>
> To use an external clock source, set the Rumour's digital clock parameter
> to "External" and it gets it's sync over the SPDIF from the external
device.
> The Digital Lock LED will light up solid when it syncs. If it flashes,
it's
> not sync'd
>
> Highest it will do is 48k 24bit
>
> I'd use it's SPDIF I/O, but my digital out on the Mec feeds my DAC-1.
>
> Hope that helps.
>
> What we need is a good AES/EBU box.(ahem) ;0)
>
> Mike
>
> "uptown jimmy" <johnson314@bellsouth.net> wrote:
> >Mike,
> >
> >Deej says you're clocking a Rumour along with your Paris rig. I have some
> >specific questions about that, if you don't mind emailing me. Or, we can
> >handle it here.
> >
> >Thanks!
> >Jimmy
> >
> >
>I'm overjoyed at our country's growing sanity about cigarette smoke in
public places.

Funny, but we just traveled from GA to my old stomping grounds of NC for our
vacation this year (I'm from Western NC, but we hit the beach at Hatteras),
and we were flabbergasted at the percentage of people who smoked. Amazing.

"PN" <pn@nc.com> wrote in message news:42f0c2e0$1@linux...
>
> As a reformed smoker, I couldn't be happier about it. That's the main
reasons
> I quit playing clubs a few years back. Was killing me. Of course here in
> good old NC, it'll be a cold day in hell before we'll have smokefree bars.
>
> "justcron" <justcron@hydrorecords.compound> wrote:
> >I mean smoker/drinker or not, you gotta admit that bars just aint the
same
> >without that cloud and it feels like something has been taken away from
>
> >life.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>yep and it works quite well

EK Sound wrote:
> Cubase/Nuendo has a feature where you can set the bar markers to the
> actual audio, thereby allowing the sequencing and subsequent quantizing
> of midi events to the aforementioned audio. :-)
>
> David.
>
> Neil wrote:
>
>> A band out of state is wanting me to do some drum programming
>> on a song for them (the drummer's not available at this time...
>> Columbian prison or something - you know, typical drummer...
>> JUST KIDDING lol). Anyway, so the guy sends me a CD - audio
>> CD, not wav, even. and i'm supposed to strip out the click on
>> one channel & his rhythm guitar on the other & program a MIDI
>> drum track to match it, but..... (wait for it)
>> it drifts no matter what tempo i use; 81 is perfect for about a
>> minute in, then it starts drifting, 82 starts drifting too fast
>> almost instantly, 80 starts drifting too slow in the same
>> manner; i double it to 162 to get more precise "nudges", but
>> 163 starts drifting too fast & 162 starts drifting too slow -
>> just takes longer to do it. Sorry, can't go up to 324, I tell
>> him, workstation won't go that high LOL He's not on a DAW, so
>> we can't exchange any kind of files directly.
>>
>> I'm gonna have to program it from scratch by ear at 81 while
>> listening to his rhythm track on a regular CD player - uurgh.
>> Anyway, just griping... anyone else ever deal with this?
>> Neil

--
Chris Ludwig

ADK Pro Audio
(859) 635-5762
www.adkproaudio.com
chrisl@adkproaudio.comGood thing, too.

Here in Colorado some cities have made the change and some still haven't.

It's a joy to play a gig in a non-smoking establishment.

It's a real drag to play in the thick, stale atmosphere of constant
suspended carcinogenic particulates. And decontaminate after the gig.
Smoke gets into everything, clothes, hair, gear.

If you want to talk about "taking away from life," nic sticks kill more
people than the next three or four top categories combined. Smoking is
the number one killer by a long shot. I can't be too awfully nostalgic
about that.

It'd be like missing the sound of gunfire during gigs: "remember when
you could shoot yer shotgun whenever and wherever you wanted in bars,
man I miss those days."

Cigs are incredibly addictive, I have friends who try and try and cannot
break free. Banning smoking inside bars/restaurants hasn't helped them
stop. They find many opportunities to poison themselves. But at least in
some places they aren't allowed to poison everyone around them at the
same time.

If you smoke and have kids, whatever you do don't smoke around the kids.
And if you need incentive to quit, think about whether you want to be
around for your kids as they grow up.

Cigs are the perfect product, try them for a bit and you can't stop.
What a marketing opportunity! Except for the lung damage, cancer and
early death part. Customers die off, but no problem, it's easy to
recruit new ones.

Thanks but no thanks.

Cheers,
-Jamie K
http://www.JamieKrutz.com


justcron wrote:
> I mean smoker/drinker or not, you gotta admit that bars just aint the same
> without that cloud and it feels like something has been taken away from
> life.
>
>
>
>
>Hey Jimmy,

If the MEC is getting it's clock signal from the Lucid, then the spdif
output signal will be derived from the Lucid as well. I'm using a pair of
Digipatch units here routing spdif in and out of 3 x MECs, a Quantec
Yardstick, Sony V77 and a Lexicon PC 90 on one of them (the other is routing
ADAT/optical I/O from one of the MECs and various I/O on my RME cards, etc.)
The Digipatch should pass the signals with no problem and you should be able
to Mangler them easily.

;o)



uptown jimmy" <johnson314@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
news:42f0e1db$1@linux...
> Yeah, I've got an "ahem" as well. Deej......
>
> So Mike, what I want to do is clock a 3-MEC system from a Lucid clock via
> BNC. Will the Rumour pick up the clcok signal via SPDIF from an MEC? And I
> guess if it will do that it will pick the signal up with a Digipatch in
the
> way as well...I'm adding a Mangler soon....
>
> Thanks!
> Jimmy
>
>
> "Mike Claytor" <claytor@nospam.com> wrote in message
> news:42f01da4$1@linux...
> >
> > Hi Jimmy,
> >
> > I'm only using my Rumour with analog I/O right now, so it has to be set
to
> > it's own internal clock.
> >
> > To use an external clock source, set the Rumour's digital clock
parameter
> > to "External" and it gets it's sync over the SPDIF from the external
> device.
> > The Digital Lock LED will light up solid when it syncs. If it flashes,
> it's
> > not sync'd
> >
> > Highest it will do is 48k 24bit
> >
> > I'd use it's SPDIF I/O, but my digital out on the Mec feeds my DAC-1.
> >
> > Hope that helps.
> >
> > What we need is a good AES/EBU box.(ahem) ;0)
> >
> > Mike
> >
> > "uptown jimmy" <johnson314@bellsouth.net> wrote:
> > >Mike,
> > >
> > >Deej says you're clocking a Rumour along with your Paris rig. I have
some
> > >specific questions about that, if you don't mind emailing me. Or, we
can
> > >handle it here.
> > >
> > >Thanks!
> > >Jimmy
> > >
> > >
> >
>
>Jon Jiles wrote:

> doing anyway. I'm thinking about picking up an Emu 1212m


In the words of Anakin Skywalker
NNNNNOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!


Don't waste he money. If you don't need all the I/O but want the
performance and sound quality get the RME HDSP9632. The on board Midi
works quite well. The Emagic MT4 wil work fine but aren't you tired of
buying doscontinued or soon to be discontinued gear! :)


ChrisI used to be 3 x pack a day guy. Just being in the same vicinity as
cigarette smoke nowadays makes me ill. There's nothing worse than a
reformed smoker.

;oP

If I need nostalgia, I can just open up the top of my '61 Ampeg B-15
cabinet. That thing must have lived in a smoky bar for the 40 years before I
bought it.

It took me about week to get enough of the stink off the thing that I could
abide even having it in the house. Still, the smell has permanently
permeated the wood of the cabinet..

Brings back old memories.

;o)


"justcron" <justcron@hydrorecords.compound> wrote in message
news:42f0ae96@linux...
> I mean smoker/drinker or not, you gotta admit that bars just aint the same
> without that cloud and it feels like something has been taken away from
> life.
>
>
>
>
>Geez...

no shit cigs are bad for you.

Thanks for the info Dr. Koop

I dont know when the last time was that I smoked a cigarette, but its
straight up wierd that the other people can't have one with their beer.

"Jamie K" <Meta@Dimensional.com> wrote in message news:42f0ecd1@linux...
>
> Good thing, too.
>
> Here in Colorado some cities have made the change and some still haven't.
>
> It's a joy to play a gig in a non-smoking establishment.
>
> It's a real drag to play in the thick, stale atmosphere of constant
> suspended carcinogenic particulates. And decontaminate after the gig.
> Smoke gets into everything, clothes, hair, gear.
>
> If you want to talk about "taking away from life," nic sticks kill more
> people than the next three or four top categories combined. Smoking is the
> number one killer by a long shot. I can't be too awfully nostalgic about
> that.
>
> It'd be like missing the sound of gunfire during gigs: "remember when you
> could shoot yer shotgun whenever and wherever you wanted in bars, man I
> miss those days."
>
> Cigs are incredibly addictive, I have friends who try and try and cannot
> break free. Banning smoking inside bars/restaurants hasn't helped them
> stop. They find many opportunities to poison themselves. But at least in
> some places they aren't allowed to poison everyone around them at the same
> time.
>
> If you smoke and have kids, whatever you do don't smoke around the kids.
> And if you need incentive to quit, think about whether you want to be
> around for your kids as they grow up.
>
> Cigs are the perfect product, try them for a bit and you can't stop. What
> a marketing opportunity! Except for the lung damage, cancer and early
> death part. Customers die off, but no problem, it's easy to recruit new
> ones.
>
> Thanks but no thanks.
>
> Cheers,
> -Jamie K
> http://www.JamieKrutz.com
>
>
> justcron wrote:
>> I mean smoker/drinker or not, you gotta admit that bars just aint the
>> same
>> without that cloud and it feels like something has been taken away from
>> life.
>>
>>
>>
>>OK then, perhaps you will get lucky at the Church of Our Lady of Perpetual
Motion?

;o)

"Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:42f08394$1@linux...
>
> >>So this would be St. Mattress cathedral?
> >
> >Now THAT is funny! :D
>
> I´m obviously missing a reference here... I don´t get it...
>
> Cheers,
> Kim (the stupid ;o)I always figured, if you dont want to smell like smoke... dont go to the
bar...

no need to try to take it over.

bars aren't supposed to be ethical.. its a frikkin bar.

have you noticed how many people dont even go to the bar anymore...

less drinkers... less tippers... less live music... pub economy gone to shit

"EK Sound" <spamnot.info@eksoundNO.com> wrote in message
news:42f0de3c@linux...
> Personally, I can't wait till they get rid of smoking from bars/pubs
> here... I get back from some gigs and want throw away my clothes rather
> than bring them into the house.
>
> David
>
> justcron wrote:
>
>> I mean smoker/drinker or not, you gotta admit that bars just aint the
>> same
>> without that cloud and it feels like something has been taken away from
>> life.
>>
>>
>>
>>Cool! I'm neurotic....

And you're using a Lucid clock, right?

BTW, how do you like your Lexi PCM90?

Jimmy


"DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote in message
news:42f0ecdf$1@linux...
> Hey Jimmy,
>
> If the MEC is getting it's clock signal from the Lucid, then the spdif
> output signal will be derived from the Lucid as well. I'm using a pair of
> Digipatch units here routing spdif in and out of 3 x MECs, a Quantec
> Yardstick, Sony V77 and a Lexicon PC 90 on one of them (the other is
routing
> ADAT/optical I/O from one of the MECs and various I/O on my RME cards,
etc.)
> The Digipatch should pass the signals with no problem and you should be
able
> to Mangler them easily.
>
> ;o)
>
>
>
> uptown jimmy" <johnson314@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
> news:42f0e1db$1@linux...
> > Yeah, I've got an "ahem" as well. Deej......
> >
> > So Mike, what I want to do is clock a 3-MEC system from a Lucid clock
via
> > BNC. Will the Rumour pick up the clcok signal via SPDIF from an MEC? And
I
> > guess if it will do that it will pick the signal up with a Digipatch in
> the
> > way as well...I'm adding a Mangler soon....
> >
> > Thanks!
> > Jimmy
> >
> >
> > "Mike Claytor" <claytor@nospam.com> wrote in message
> > news:42f01da4$1@linux...
> > >
> > > Hi Jimmy,
> > >
> > > I'm only using my Rumour with analog I/O right now, so it has to be
set
> to
> > > it's own internal clock.
> > >
> > > To use an external clock source, set the Rumour's digital clock
> parameter
> > > to "External" and it gets it's sync over the SPDIF from the external
> > device.
> > > The Digital Lock LED will light up solid when it syncs. If it flashes,
> > it's
> > > not sync'd
> > >
> > > Highest it will do is 48k 24bit
> > >
> > > I'd use it's SPDIF I/O, but my digital out on the Mec feeds my DAC-1.
> > >
> > > Hope that helps.
> > >
> > > What we need is a good AES/EBU box.(ahem) ;0)
> > >
> > > Mike
> > >
> > > "uptown jimmy" <johnson314@bellsouth.net> wrote:
> > > >Mike,
> > > >
> > > >Deej says you're clocking a Rumour along with your Paris rig. I have
> some
> > > >specific questions about that, if you don't mind emailing me. Or, we
> can
> > > >handle it here.
> > > >
> > > >Thanks!
> > > >Jimmy
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>When I am being paid to go to the bar to mix sound, I don't have a
choice... I don't like being forced to inhale smoke. But I either go
to the gig or don't earn money. In my personal time, I do NOT go to
bars/pubs for that very reason.

David.

justcron wrote:
> I always figured, if you dont want to smell like smoke... dont go
> to the bar...
>
> no need to try to take it over.
>
> bars aren't supposed to be ethical.. its a frikkin bar.
>
> have you noticed how many people dont even go to the bar anymore...
>
>
> less drinkers... less tippers... less live music... pub economy
> gone to shit
>
> "EK Sound" <spamnot.info@eksoundNO.com> wrote in message
> news:42f0de3c@linux...
>
>> Personally, I can't wait till they get rid of smoking from
>> bars/pubs here... I get back from some gigs and want throw away
>> my clothes rather than bring them into the house.
>>
>> David
>>
>> justcron wrote:
>>
>>
>>> I mean smoker/drinker or not, you gotta admit that bars just
>>> aint the same without that cloud and it feels like something
>>> has been taken away from life.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>
>
>I hear ya...

I can respect everyones serious opinions on the matter. I posted this
because the other day I went to a game at Fenway and hit a few bars
beforehand. The same bars I used to hang out in college, and it was just
strange that noone was smoking and they seemed to be underpopulated, and
even brighter.

I am curious if anyone has noticed a decline in live music with the no
smoking ban?


"EK Sound" <spamnot.info@eksoundNO.com> wrote in message
news:42f0f382@linux...
> When I am being paid to go to the bar to mix sound, I don't have a
> choice... I don't like being forced to inhale smoke. But I either go to
> the gig or don't earn money. In my personal time, I do NOT go to
> bars/pubs for that very reason.
>
> David.
>
> justcron wrote:
>> I always figured, if you dont want to smell like smoke... dont go
>> to the bar...
>>
>> no need to try to take it over.
>>
>> bars aren't supposed to be ethical.. its a frikkin bar.
>>
>> have you noticed how many people dont even go to the bar anymore...
>>
>>
>> less drinkers... less tippers... less live music... pub economy
>> gone to shit
>>
>> "EK Sound" <spamnot.info@eksoundNO.com> wrote in message
>> news:42f0de3c@linux...
>>
>>> Personally, I can't wait till they get rid of smoking from
>>> bars/pubs here... I get back from some gigs and want throw away
>>> my clothes rather than bring them into the house.
>>>
>>> David
>>>
>>> justcron wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>> I mean smoker/drinker or not, you gotta admit that bars just
>>>> aint the same without that cloud and it feels like something
>>>> has been taken away from life.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>
>>I was using the Lucid as a clock and it worked fine this way. I bought a
Mytek converter later on and now I am using it as the clock and it is
feeding clock to the GenX6 which is set to distribute it......but the Luciid
worked great as a WC module for Paris. Highly recommended. You should be
happy with it.

I'm not using a PCM 90. I'm using a Lexicon Core 32 system as a standalone
processor. It has two PC90 processors which are somewhatsimilar to the PCM
90 except unlike the PCM 90, the PC 90 runs them in parallel rather than in
series.

Cheers,

Deej

"uptown jimmy" <johnson314@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
news:42f0f318$1@linux...
> Cool! I'm neurotic....
>
> And you're using a Lucid clock, right?
>
> BTW, how do you like your Lexi PCM90?
>
> Jimmy
>
>
> "DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote in message
> news:42f0ecdf$1@linux...
> > Hey Jimmy,
> >
> > If the MEC is getting it's clock signal from the Lucid, then the spdif
> > output signal will be derived from the Lucid as well. I'm using a pair
of
> > Digipatch units here routing spdif in and out of 3 x MECs, a Quantec
> > Yardstick, Sony V77 and a Lexicon PC 90 on one of them (the other is
> routing
> > ADAT/optical I/O from one of the MECs and various I/O on my RME cards,
> etc.)
> > The Digipatch should pass the signals with no problem and you should be
> able
> > to Mangler them easily.
> >
> > ;o)
> >
> >
> >
> > uptown jimmy" <johnson314@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
> > news:42f0e1db$1@linux...
> > > Yeah, I've got an "ahem" as well. Deej......
> > >
> > > So Mike, what I want to do is clock a 3-MEC system from a Lucid clock
> via
> > > BNC. Will the Rumour pick up the clcok signal via SPDIF from an MEC?
And
> I
> > > guess if it will do that it will pick the signal up with a Digipatch
in
> > the
> > > way as well...I'm adding a Mangler soon....
> > >
> > > Thanks!
> > > Jimmy
> > >
> > >
> > > "Mike Claytor" <claytor@nospam.com> wrote in message
> > > news:42f01da4$1@linux...
> > > >
> > > > Hi Jimmy,
> > > >
> > > > I'm only using my Rumour with analog I/O right now, so it has to be
> set
> > to
> > > > it's own internal clock.
> > > >
> > > > To use an external clock source, set the Rumour's digital clock
> > parameter
> > > > to "External" and it gets it's sync over the SPDIF from the external
> > > device.
> > > > The Digital Lock LED will light up solid when it syncs. If it
flashes,
> > > it's
> > > > not sync'd
> > > >
> > > > Highest it will do is 48k 24bit
> > > >
> > > > I'd use it's SPDIF I/O, but my digital out on the Mec feeds my
DAC-1.
> > > >
> > > > Hope that helps.
> > > >
> > > > What we need is a good AES/EBU box.(ahem) ;0)
> > > >
> > > > Mike
> > > >
> > > > "uptown jimmy" <johnson314@bellsouth.net> wrote:
> > > > >Mike,
> > > > >
> > > > >Deej says you're clocking a Rumour along with your Paris rig. I
have
> > some
> > > > >specific questions about that, if you don't mind emailing me. Or,
we
> > can
> > > > >handle it here.
> > > > >
> > > > >Thanks!
> > > > >Jimmy
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>Not just bad for you, bad for those around you.

Anyone can have a cig with their beer. In cities that care about the
dangers smoking poses to public health, they'll have to do it at home.

In cities where the policy is to allow second hand smoke, those who want
to drink a beer in peace without breathing poisonous air will have to
drink at home.

Random thought: I wonder which policy results in fewer drunk drivers?

There's always the propaganda that if smoking is banned, bars and
restaraunts will lose business. In some cases that's true. But overall
it's not. Turns out that a lot of people enjoy breathing.

Glad to hear you've been off cigs for a while.

Cheers,
-Jamie K
http://www.JamieKrutz.com


justcron wrote:

> Geez...
>
> no shit cigs are bad for you.
>
> Thanks for the info Dr. Koop
>
> I dont know when the last time was that I smoked a cigarette, but its
> straight up wierd that the other people can't have one with their beer.
>
> "Jamie K" <Meta@Dimensional.com> wrote in message news:42f0ecd1@linux...
>
>>Good thing, too.
>>
>>Here in Colorado some cities have made the change and some still haven't.
>>
>>It's a joy to play a gig in a non-smoking establishment.
>>
>>It's a real drag to play in the thick, stale atmosphere of constant
>>suspended carcinogenic particulates. And decontaminate after the gig.
>>Smoke gets into everything, clothes, hair, gear.
>>
>>If you want to talk about "taking away from life," nic sticks kill more
>>people than the next three or four top categories combined. Smoking is the
>>number one killer by a long shot. I can't be too awfully nostalgic about
>>that.
>>
>>It'd be like missing the sound of gunfire during gigs: "remember when you
>>could shoot yer shotgun whenever and wherever you wanted in bars, man I
>>miss those days."
>>
>>Cigs are incredibly addictive, I have friends who try and try and cannot
>>break free. Banning smoking inside bars/restaurants hasn't helped them
>>stop. They find many opportunities to poison themselves. But at least in
>>some places they aren't allowed to poison everyone around them at the same
>>time.
>>
>>If you smoke and have kids, whatever you do don't smoke around the kids.
>>And if you need incentive to quit, think about whether you want to be
>>around for your kids as they grow up.
>>
>>Cigs are the perfect product, try them for a bit and you can't stop. What
>>a marketing opportunity! Except for the lung damage, cancer and early
>>death part. Customers die off, but no problem, it's easy to recruit new
>>ones.
>>
>>Thanks but no thanks.
>>
>>Cheers,
>> -Jamie K
>> http://www.JamieKrutz.com
>>
>>
>>justcron wrote:
>>
>>>I mean smoker/drinker or not, you gotta admit that bars just aint the
>>>same
>>>without that cloud and it feels like something has been taken away from
>>>life.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>
>On Wed, 03 Aug 2005 09:04:54 -0600, EK Sound
<spamnot.info@eksoundNO.com> wrote:

>One of my all-time favs is still Aja... first CD I ever bought... even
>before I had anything to play it on!! :-)
>

And, in a weird sort of twist, my first CD was Asia by Asia, and I had
it before I had a cd player. Jewel case looked pretty cool sitting up
on my bulletin board in my dorm room.

That was back when you could get stares of admiration from the cute
chicks working the record stores when you bought a cd. Now, nothing.

Got my first cd player, a second-gen Yammy, right after I graduated
from college in '84. Spent stupid money on it, too, something like
$400.

Ahhh. The pain of early adopters.

pab

"Enjoy every sandwich." -- Warren Zevon

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better than any others I have tried since. It also has a 5V audio
output level that would max the line inputs on the Neve 8068MKIII
consoles I used to use! :-)

David.

Paul Braun wrote:
> On Wed, 03 Aug 2005 09:04:54 -0600, EK Sound
> <spamnot.info@eksoundNO.com> wrote:
>
>
>>One of my all-time favs is still Aja... first CD I ever bought... even
>>before I had anything to play it on!! :-)
>>
>
>
> And, in a weird sort of twist, my first CD was Asia by Asia, and I had
> it before I had a cd player. Jewel case looked pretty cool sitting up
> on my bulletin board in my dorm room.
>
> That was back when you could get stares of admiration from the cute
> chicks working the record stores when you bought a cd. Now, nothing.
>
> Got my first cd player, a second-gen Yammy, right after I graduated
> from college in '84. Spent stupid money on it, too, something like
> $400.
>
> Ahhh. The pain of early adopters.
>
> pab
>
> "Enjoy every sandwich." -- Warren Zevon
>
> "Here at Microsoft, Quality is job, oh, I dunno, maybe 7 or 8?""Jamie K" <Meta@Dimensional.com> wrote in message news:42f0f886@linux...
>
> Not just bad for you, bad for those around you.
>
> Anyone can have a cig with their beer. In cities that care about the
> dangers smoking poses to public health, they'll have to do it at home.
>
> In cities where the policy is to allow second hand smoke, those who want
> to drink a beer in peace without breathing poisonous air will have to
> drink at home.
>
> Random thought: I wonder which policy results in fewer drunk drivers?
>
> There's always the propaganda that if smoking is banned, bars and
> restaraunts will lose business. In some cases that's true. But overall
> it's not. Turns out that a lot of people enjoy breathing.
>
> Glad to hear you've been off cigs for a while.

never really was a cig smoker... yuck

thanks Dr. Koop! the orginal post wasn't really meant to be serious, just
nostalgic, oh well.

> Cheers,
> -Jamie K
> http://www.JamieKrutz.com
>
>
> justcron wrote:
>
>> Geez...
>>
>> no shit cigs are bad for you.
>>
>> Thanks for the info Dr. Koop
>>
>> I dont know when the last time was that I smoked a cigarette, but its
>> straight up wierd that the other people can't have one with their beer.
>>
>> "Jamie K" <Meta@Dimensional.com> wrote in message news:42f0ecd1@linux...
>>
>>>Good thing, too.
>>>
>>>Here in Colorado some cities have made the change and some still haven't.
>>>
>>>It's a joy to play a gig in a non-smoking establishment.
>>>
>>>It's a real drag to play in the thick, stale atmosphere of constant
>>>suspended carcinogenic particulates. And decontaminate after the gig.
>>>Smoke gets into everything, clothes, hair, gear.
>>>
>>>If you want to talk about "taking away from life," nic sticks kill more
>>>people than the next three or four top categories combined. Smoking is
>>>the number one killer by a long shot. I can't be too awfully nostalgic
>>>about that.
>>>
>>>It'd be like missing the sound of gunfire during gigs: "remember when you
>>>could shoot yer shotgun whenever and wherever you wanted in bars, man I
>>>miss those days."
>>>
>>>Cigs are incredibly addictive, I have friends who try and try and cannot
>>>break free. Banning smoking inside bars/restaurants hasn't helped them
>>>stop. They find many opportunities to poison themselves. But at least in
>>>some places they aren't allowed to poison everyone around them at the
>>>same time.
>>>
>>>If you smoke and have kids, whatever you do don't smoke around the kids.
>>>And if you need incentive to quit, think about whether you want to be
>>>around for your kids as they grow up.
>>>
>>>Cigs are the perfect product, try them for a bit and you can't stop. What
>>>a marketing opportunity! Except for the lung damage, cancer and early
>>>death part. Customers die off, but no problem, it's easy to recruit new
>>>ones.
>>>
>>>Thanks but no thanks.
>>>
>>>Cheers,
>>> -Jamie K
>>> http://www.JamieKrutz.com
>>>
>>>
>>>justcron wrote:
>>>
>>>>I mean smoker/drinker or not, you gotta admit that bars just aint the
>>>>same
>>>>without that cloud and it feels like something has been taken away from
>>>>life.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>I can be nostalgic about harvest gold and that weird 70s green. Can't be
nostalgic about death in a stick. It's killing my uncle and he can't quit.

On a lighter note, smoking through a tracheotomy doesn't stain your teeth...

Cheers,
-Dr. Koop
http://www.drkoop.com
http://www.drkoop.com/search.aspx?pAP=93&searchTxt=smoki ng&searchType=0&Go.x=0&Go.y=0


justcron wrote:

> "Jamie K" <Meta@Dimensional.com> wrote in message news:42f0f886@linux...
>
>>Not just bad for you, bad for those around you.
>>
>>Anyone can have a cig with their beer. In cities that care about the
>>dangers smoking poses to public health, they'll have to do it at home.
>>
>>In cities where the policy is to allow second hand smoke, those who want
>>to drink a beer in peace without breathing poisonous air will have to
>>drink at home.
>>
>>Random thought: I wonder which policy results in fewer drunk drivers?
>>
>>There's always the propaganda that if smoking is banned, bars and
>>restaraunts will lose business. In some cases that's true. But overall
>>it's not. Turns out that a lot of people enjoy breathing.
>>
>>Glad to hear you've been off cigs for a while.
>
>
> never really was a cig smoker... yuck
>
> thanks Dr. Koop! the orginal post wasn't really meant to be serious, just
> nostalgic, oh well.
>
>
>>Cheers,
>> -Jamie K
>> http://www.JamieKrutz.com
>>
>>
>>justcron wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Geez...
>>>
>>>no shit cigs are bad for you.
>>>
>>>Thanks for the info Dr. Koop
>>>
>>>I dont know when the last time was that I smoked a cigarette, but its
>>>straight up wierd that the other people can't have one with their beer.
>>>
>>>"Jamie K" <Meta@Dimensional.com> wrote in message news:42f0ecd1@linux...
>>>
>>>
>>>>Good thing, too.
>>>>
>>>>Here in Colorado some cities have made the change and some still haven't.
>>>>
>>>>It's a joy to play a gig in a non-smoking establishment.
>>>>
>>>>It's a real drag to play in the thick, stale atmosphere of constant
>>>>suspended carcinogenic particulates. And decontaminate after the gig.
>>>>Smoke gets into everything, clothes, hair, gear.
>>>>
>>>>If you want to talk about "taking away from life," nic sticks kill more
>>>>people than the next three or four top categories combined. Smoking is
>>>>the number one killer by a long shot. I can't be too awfully nostalgic
>>>>about that.
>>>>
>>>>It'd be like missing the sound of gunfire during gigs: "remember when you
>>>>could shoot yer shotgun whenever and wherever you wanted in bars, man I
>>>>miss those days."
>>>>
>>>>Cigs are incredibly addictive, I have friends who try and try and cannot
>>>>break free. Banning smoking inside bars/restaurants hasn't helped them
>>>>stop. They find many opportunities to poison themselves. But at least in
>>>>some places they aren't allowed to poison everyone around them at the
>>>>same time.
>>>>
>>>>If you smoke and have kids, whatever you do don't smoke around the kids.
>>>>And if you need incentive to quit, think about whether you want to be
>>>>around for your kids as they grow up.
>>>>
>>>>Cigs are the perfect product, try them for a bit and you can't stop. What
>>>>a marketing opportunity! Except for the lung damage, cancer and early
>>>>death part. Customers die off, but no problem, it's easy to recruit new
>>>>ones.
>>>>
>>>>Thanks but no thanks.
>>>>
>>>>Cheers,
>>>>-Jamie K
>>>>http://www.JamieKrutz.com
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>justcron wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>I mean smoker/drinker or not, you gotta admit that bars just aint the
>>>>>same
>>>>>without that cloud and it feels like something has been taken away from
>>>>>life.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>
>
>
>>It's killing my uncle and he can't quit.

Sorry to hear this Jamie. Same thing happened with my dad.

;o(

Deej

"Jamie K" <Meta@Dimensional.com> wrote in message news:42f10846@linux...
>
> I can be nostalgic about harvest gold and that weird 70s green. Can't be
> nostalgic about death in a stick. It's killing my uncle and he can't quit.
>
> On a lighter note, smoking through a tracheotomy doesn't stain your
teeth...
>
> Cheers,
> -Dr. Koop
> http://www.drkoop.com
>
http://www.drkoop.com/search.aspx?pAP=93&searchTxt=smoki ng&searchType=0&Go.x
=0&Go.y=0
>
>
> justcron wrote:
>
> > "Jamie K" <Meta@Dimensional.com> wrote in message news:42f0f886@linux...
> >
> >>Not just bad for you, bad for those around you.
> >>
> >>Anyone can have a cig with their beer. In cities that care about the
> >>dangers smoking poses to public health, they'll have to do it at home.
> >>
> >>In cities where the policy is to allow second hand smoke, those who want
> >>to drink a beer in peace without breathing poisonous air will have to
> >>drink at home.
> >>
> >>Random thought: I wonder which policy results in fewer drunk drivers?
> >>
> >>There's always the propaganda that if smoking is banned, bars and
> >>restaraunts will lose business. In some cases that's true. But overall
> >>it's not. Turns out that a lot of people enjoy breathing.
> >>
> >>Glad to hear you've been off cigs for a while.
> >
> >
> > never really was a cig smoker... yuck
> >
> > thanks Dr. Koop! the orginal post wasn't really meant to be serious,
just
> > nostalgic, oh well.
> >
> >
> >>Cheers,
> >> -Jamie K
> >> http://www.JamieKrutz.com
> >>
> >>
> >>justcron wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>>Geez...
> >>>
> >>>no shit cigs are bad for you.
> >>>
> >>>Thanks for the info Dr. Koop
> >>>
> >>>I dont know when the last time was that I smoked a cigarette, but its
> >>>straight up wierd that the other people can't have one with their beer.
> >>>
> >>>"Jamie K" <Meta@Dimensional.com> wrote in message
news:42f0ecd1@linux...
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>Good thing, too.
> >>>>
> >>>>Here in Colorado some cities have made the change and some still
haven't.
> >>>>
> >>>>It's a joy to play a gig in a non-smoking establishment.
> >>>>
> >>>>It's a real drag to play in the thick, stale atmosphere of constant
> >>>>suspended carcinogenic particulates. And decontaminate after the gig.
> >>>>Smoke gets into everything, clothes, hair, gear.
> >>>>
> >>>>If you want to talk about "taking away from life," nic sticks kill
more
> >>>>people than the next three or four top categories combined. Smoking is
> >>>>the number one killer by a long shot. I can't be too awfully nostalgic
> >>>>about that.
> >>>>
> >>>>It'd be like missing the sound of gunfire during gigs: "remember when
you
> >>>>could shoot yer shotgun whenever and wherever you wanted in bars, man
I
> >>>>miss those days."
> >>>>
> >>>>Cigs are incredibly addictive, I have friends who try and try and
cannot
> >>>>break free. Banning smoking inside bars/restaurants hasn't helped them
> >>>>stop. They find many opportunities to poison themselves. But at least
in
> >>>>some places they aren't allowed to poison everyone around them at the
> >>>>same time.
> >>>>
> >>>>If you smoke and have kids, whatever you do don't smoke around the
kids.
> >>>>And if you need incentive to quit, think about whether you want to be
> >>>>around for your kids as they grow up.
> >>>>
> >>>>Cigs are the perfect product, try them for a bit and you can't stop.
What
> >>>>a marketing opportunity! Except for the lung damage, cancer and early
> >>>>death part. Customers die off, but no problem, it's easy to recruit
new
> >>>>ones.
> >>>>
> >>>>Thanks but no thanks.
> >>>>
> >>>>Cheers,
> >>>>-Jamie K
> >>>>http://www.JamieKrutz.com
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>justcron wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>I mean smoker/drinker or not, you gotta admit that bars just aint the
> >>>>>same
> >>>>>without that cloud and it feels like something has been taken away
from
> >>>>>life.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>
> >
> >
> >"Jamie K" <Meta@Dimensional.com> wrote in message news:42f10846@linux...
>
> I can be nostalgic about harvest gold and that weird 70s green. Can't be
> nostalgic about death in a stick. It's killing my uncle and he can't quit.

mmmm me toooo.... true it is definitley a serious matter... Its crazy how
many kids get hooked on cigs when someone in their family has died from
smoking

> On a lighter note, smoking through a tracheotomy doesn't stain your
> teeth...

lolDJ wrote:

>>It's killing my uncle and he can't quit.
> Sorry to hear this Jamie. Same thing happened with my dad.

Words cannot express. Sorry to hear about your dad, Deej.

Cheers,
-Jamie
http://www.JamieKrutz.com


> ;o(
>
> Deej
>
> "Jamie K" <Meta@Dimensional.com> wrote in message news:42f10846@linux...
>
>>I can be nostalgic about harvest gold and that weird 70s green. Can't be
>>nostalgic about death in a stick. It's killing my uncle and he can't quit.
>>
>>On a lighter note, smoking through a tracheotomy doesn't stain your
>
> teeth...
>
>>Cheers,
>> -Dr. Koop
>> http://www.drkoop.com
>>
>
> http://www.drkoop.com/search.aspx?pAP=93&searchTxt=smoki ng&searchType=0&Go.x
> =0&Go.y=0
>
>>
>>justcron wrote:
>>
>>
>>>"Jamie K" <Meta@Dimensional.com> wrote in message news:42f0f886@linux...
>>>
>>>
>>>>Not just bad for you, bad for those around you.
>>>>
>>>>Anyone can have a cig with their beer. In cities that care about the
>>>>dangers smoking poses to public health, they'll have to do it at home.
>>>>
>>>>In cities where the policy is to allow second hand smoke, those who want
>>>>to drink a beer in peace without breathing poisonous air will have to
>>>>drink at home.
>>>>
>>>>Random thought: I wonder which policy results in fewer drunk drivers?
>>>>
>>>>There's always the propaganda that if smoking is banned, bars and
>>>>restaraunts will lose business. In some cases that's true. But overall
>>>>it's not. Turns out that a lot of people enjoy breathing.
>>>>
>>>>Glad to hear you've been off cigs for a while.
>>>
>>>
>>>never really was a cig smoker... yuck
>>>
>>>thanks Dr. Koop! the orginal post wasn't really meant to be serious,
>
> just
>
>>>nostalgic, oh well.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>Cheers,
>>>>-Jamie K
>>>>http://www.JamieKrutz.com
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>justcron wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>Geez...
>>>>>
>>>>>no shit cigs are bad for you.
>>>>>
>>>>>Thanks for the info Dr. Koop
>>>>>
>>>>>I dont know when the last time was that I smoked a cigarette, but its
>>>>>straight up wierd that the other people can't have one with their beer.
>>>>>
>>>>>"Jamie K" <Meta@Dimensional.com> wrote in message
>
> news:42f0ecd1@linux...
>
>>>>>
>>>>>>Good thing, too.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Here in Colorado some cities have made the change and some still
>
> haven't.
>
>>>>>>It's a joy to play a gig in a non-smoking establishment.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>It's a real drag to play in the thick, stale atmosphere of constant
>>>>>>suspended carcinogenic particulates. And decontaminate after the gig.
>>>>>>Smoke gets into everything, clothes, hair, gear.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>If you want to talk about "taking away from life," nic sticks kill
>
> more
>
>>>>>>people than the next three or four top categories combined. Smoking is
>>>>>>the number one killer by a long shot. I can't be too awfully nostalgic
>>>>>>about that.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>It'd be like missing the sound of gunfire during gigs: "remember when
>
> you
>
>>>>>>could shoot yer shotgun whenever and wherever you wanted in bars, man
>
> I
>
>>>>>>miss those days."
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Cigs are incredibly addictive, I have friends who try and try and
>
> cannot
>
>>>>>>break free. Banning smoking inside bars/restaurants hasn't helped them
>>>>>>stop. They find many opportunities to poison themselves. But at least
>
> in
>
>>>>>>some places they aren't allowed to poison everyone around them at the
>>>>>>same time.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>If you smoke and have kids, whatever you do don't smoke around the
>
> kids.
>
>>>>>>And if you need incentive to quit, think about whether you want to be
>>>>>>around for your kids as they grow up.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Cigs are the perfect product, try them for a bit and you can't stop.
>
> What
>
>>>>>>a marketing opportunity! Except for the lung damage, cancer and early
>>>>>>death part. Customers die off, but no problem, it's easy to recruit
>
> new
>
>>>>>>ones.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Thanks but no thanks.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Cheers,
>>>>>>-Jamie K
>>>>>>http://www.JamieKrutz.com
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>justcron wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>I mean smoker/drinker or not, you gotta admit that bars just aint the
>>>>>>>same
>>>>>>>without that cloud and it feels like something has been taken away
>
> from
>
>>>>>>>life.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>
>>>
>
>justcron wrote:
> "Jamie K" <Meta@Dimensional.com> wrote in message news:42f10846@linux...
>
>>I can be nostalgic about harvest gold and that weird 70s green. Can't be
>>nostalgic about death in a stick. It's killing my uncle and he can't quit.
>
>
> mmmm me toooo.... true it is definitley a serious matter... Its crazy how
> many kids get hooked on cigs when someone in their family has died from
> smoking

Crazy is a good word for it. Goes to show how clever, well funded
marketing, a legacy of lies, and a highly addictive product can
sometimes overcome common sense.

Cheers,
-Jamie K
http://www.JamieKrutz.com


>>On a lighter note, smoking through a tracheotomy doesn't stain your
>>teeth...
>
>
> lol
>
>i quit 15 months ago and i make no demand that anyone has to give up
their rights because of my decision to quit. if at some time in the
future i can't take the smoke then i'll drink at home.

On Wed, 3 Aug 2005 12:21:23 -0400, "justcron"
<justcron@hydrorecords.compound> wrote:

>Geez...
>
>no shit cigs are bad for you.
>
>Thanks for the info Dr. Koop
>
>I dont know when the last time was that I smoked a cigarette, but its
>straight up wierd that the other people can't have one with their beer.
>
>"Jamie K" <Meta@Dimensional.com> wrote in message news:42f0ecd1@linux...
>>
>> Good thing, too.
>>
>> Here in Colorado some cities have made the change and some still haven't.
>>
>> It's a joy to play a gig in a non-smoking establishment.
>>
>> It's a real drag to play in the thick, stale atmosphere of constant
>> suspended carcinogenic particulates. And decontaminate after the gig.
>> Smoke gets into everything, clothes, hair, gear.
>>
>> If you want to talk about "taking away from life," nic sticks kill more
>> people than the next three or four top categories combined. Smoking is the
>> number one killer by a long shot. I can't be too awfully nostalgic about
>> that.
>>
>> It'd be like missing the sound of gunfire during gigs: "remember when you
>> could shoot yer shotgun whenever and wherever you wanted in bars, man I
>> miss those days."
>>
>> Cigs are incredibly addictive, I have friends who try and try and cannot
>> break free. Banning smoking inside bars/restaurants hasn't helped them
>> stop. They find many opportunities to poison themselves. But at least in
>> some places they aren't allowed to poison everyone around them at the same
>> time.
>>
>> If you smoke and have kids, whatever you do don't smoke around the kids.
>> And if you need incentive to quit, think about whether you want to be
>> around for your kids as they grow up.
>>
>> Cigs are the perfect product, try them for a bit and you can't stop. What
>> a marketing opportunity! Except for the lung damage, cancer and early
>> death part. Customers die off, but no problem, it's easy to recruit new
>> ones.
>>
>> Thanks but no thanks.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> -Jamie K
>> http://www.JamieKrutz.com
>>
>>
>> justcron wrote:
>>> I mean smoker/drinker or not, you gotta admit that bars just aint the
>>> same
>>> without that cloud and it feels like something has been taken away from
>>> life.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>I can't speak for everyone, but the smoke IS the reason I don't go to bars.
Unfortunately, being a working musician means having to play in smoky bars
from time to time, but in my off time I stay away. I absolutely will not eat
at any restaurant that isn't either smoke free or doesn't have a physical
barrier between the smoking and non-smoking sections. I believe people
should be free to smoke all they want as long as it doesn't interfere with a
non-smokers right to breath smoke free air. I know a lot of smokers will
disagree, but it's the smoker's actions that intrude on my breathing, not
the other way around.

I used to have a sign in my studio:

"Cigarettes are your habit. The residue of your habit is smoke. It saturates
my hair, skin and clothes with out my permission. Beer is my habit. The
residue of my habit is urine. Would you mind if I stood on a chair and
pissed all over you? Let's make a deal; You smoke outside and I'll piss in
the bathroom."

I'm sorry for people who are addicted to smoking, but I really can't
understand them being offended when non-smokers don't want to be exposed to
it.

Tony



"justcron" <justcron@hydrorecords.compound> wrote in message
news:42f0f266@linux...
>I always figured, if you dont want to smell like smoke... dont go to the
> bar...
>
> no need to try to take it over.
>
> bars aren't supposed to be ethical.. its a frikkin bar.
>
> have you noticed how many people dont even go to the bar anymore...
>
> less drinkers... less tippers... less live music... pub economy gone to
> shit
>
> "EK Sound" <spamnot.info@eksoundNO.com> wrote in message
> news:42f0de3c@linux...
>> Personally, I can't wait till they get rid of smoking from bars/pubs
>> here... I get back from some gigs and want throw away my clothes rather
>> than bring them into the house.
>>
>> David
>>
>> justcron wrote:
>>
>>> I mean smoker/drinker or not, you gotta admit that bars just aint the
>>> same
>>> without that cloud and it feels like something has been taken away from
>>> life.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>
>Thanks Jamie. If kids who are busted for underage purchase of tobacco were
required to be present to watch the last agonizing few days of the end of
the life of a patient with terminal emphysema, I think it would scare 90% of
them off the idea of ever smoking.

Deej


"Jamie K" <Meta@Dimensional.com> wrote in message news:42f10f34@linux...
>
> DJ wrote:
>
> >>It's killing my uncle and he can't quit.
> > Sorry to hear this Jamie. Same thing happened with my dad.
>
> Words cannot express. Sorry to hear about your dad, Deej.
>
> Cheers,
> -Jamie
> http://www.JamieKrutz.com
>
>
> > ;o(
> >
> > Deej
> >
> > "Jamie K" <Meta@Dimensional.com> wrote in message news:42f10846@linux...
> >
> >>I can be nostalgic about harvest gold and that weird 70s green. Can't be
> >>nostalgic about death in a stick. It's killing my uncle and he can't
quit.
> >>
> >>On a lighter note, smoking through a tracheotomy doesn't stain your
> >
> > teeth...
> >
> >>Cheers,
> >> -Dr. Koop
> >> http://www.drkoop.com
> >>
> >
> >
http://www.drkoop.com/search.aspx?pAP=93&searchTxt=smoki ng&searchType=0&Go.x
> > =0&Go.y=0
> >
> >>
> >>justcron wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>>"Jamie K" <Meta@Dimensional.com> wrote in message
news:42f0f886@linux...
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>Not just bad for you, bad for those around you.
> >>>>
> >>>>Anyone can have a cig with their beer. In cities that care about the
> >>>>dangers smoking poses to public health, they'll have to do it at home.
> >>>>
> >>>>In cities where the policy is to allow second hand smoke, those who
want
> >>>>to drink a beer in peace without breathing poisonous air will have to
> >>>>drink at home.
> >>>>
> >>>>Random thought: I wonder which policy results in fewer drunk drivers?
> >>>>
> >>>>There's always the propaganda that if smoking is banned, bars and
> >>>>restaraunts will lose business. In some cases that's true. But overall
> >>>>it's not. Turns out that a lot of people enjoy breathing.
> >>>>
> >>>>Glad to hear you've been off cigs for a while.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>never really was a cig smoker... yuck
> >>>
> >>>thanks Dr. Koop! the orginal post wasn't really meant to be serious,
> >
> > just
> >
> >>>nostalgic, oh well.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>Cheers,
> >>>>-Jamie K
> >>>>http://www.JamieKrutz.com
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>justcron wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>Geez...
> >>>>>
> >>>>>no shit cigs are bad for you.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>Thanks for the info Dr. Koop
> >>>>>
> >>>>>I dont know when the last time was that I smoked a cigarette, but its
> >>>>>straight up wierd that the other people can't have one with their
beer.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>"Jamie K" <Meta@Dimensional.com> wrote in message
> >
> > news:42f0ecd1@linux...
> >
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>Good thing, too.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>Here in Colorado some cities have made the change and some still
> >
> > haven't.
> >
> >>>>>>It's a joy to play a gig in a non-smoking establishment.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>It's a real drag to play in the thick, stale atmosphere of constant
> >>>>>>suspended carcinogenic particulates. And decontaminate after the
gig.
> >>>>>>Smoke gets into everything, clothes, hair, gear.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>If you want to talk about "taking away from life," nic sticks kill
> >
> > more
> >
> >>>>>>people than the next three or four top categories combined. Smoking
is
> >>>>>>the number one killer by a long shot. I can't be too awfully
nostalgic
> >>>>>>about that.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>It'd be like missing the sound of gunfire during gigs: "remember
when
> >
> > you
> >
> >>>>>>could shoot yer shotgun whenever and wherever you wanted in bars,
man
> >
> > I
> >
> >>>>>>miss those days."
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>Cigs are incredibly addictive, I have friends who try and try and
> >
> > cannot
> >
> >>>>>>break free. Banning smoking inside bars/restaurants hasn't helped
them
> >>>>>>stop. They find many opportunities to poison themselves. But at
least
> >
> > in
> >
> >>>>>>some places they aren't allowed to poison everyone around them at
the
> >>>>>>same time.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>If you smoke and have kids, whatever you do don't smoke around the
> >
> > kids.
> >
> >>>>>>And if you need incentive to quit, think about whether you want to
be
> >>>>>>around for your kids as they grow up.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>Cigs are the perfect product, try them for a bit and you can't stop.
> >
> > What
> >
> >>>>>>a marketing opportunity! Except for the lung damage, cancer and
early
> >>>>>>death part. Customers die off, but no problem, it's easy to recruit
> >
> > new
> >
> >>>>>>ones.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>Thanks but no thanks.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>Cheers,
> >>>>>>-Jamie K
> >>>>>>http://www.JamieKrutz.com
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>justcron wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>I mean smoker/drinker or not, you gotta admit that bars just aint
the
> >>>>>>>same
> >>>>>>>without that cloud and it feels like something has been taken away
> >
> > from
> >
> >>>>>>>life.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >
> >Shoot, I've had a mangler next to my set up for years, though I never really
use it.

"DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote in message
news:42f0ecdf$1@linux...
> Hey Jimmy,
>
> If the MEC is getting it's clock signal from the Lucid, then the spdif
> output signal will be derived from the Lucid as well. I'm using a pair of
> Digipatch units here routing spdif in and out of 3 x MECs, a Quantec
> Yardstick, Sony V77 and a Lexicon PC 90 on one of them (the other is
> routing
> ADAT/optical I/O from one of the MECs and various I/O on my RME cards,
> etc.)
> The Digipatch should pass the signals with no problem and you should be
> able
> to Mangler them easily.
>
> ;o)
>
>
>
> uptown jimmy" <johnson314@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
> news:42f0e1db$1@linux...
>> Yeah, I've got an "ahem" as well. Deej......
>>
>> So Mike, what I want to do is clock a 3-MEC system from a Lucid clock via
>> BNC. Will the Rumour pick up the clcok signal via SPDIF from an MEC? And
>> I
>> guess if it will do that it will pick the signal up with a Digipatch in
> the
>> way as well...I'm adding a Mangler soon....
>>
>> Thanks!
>> Jimmy
>>
>>
>> "Mike Claytor" <claytor@nospam.com> wrote in message
>> news:42f01da4$1@linux...
>> >
>> > Hi Jimmy,
>> >
>> > I'm only using my Rumour with analog I/O right now, so it has to be set
> to
>> > it's own internal clock.
>> >
>> > To use an external clock source, set the Rumour's digital clock
> parameter
>> > to "External" and it gets it's sync over the SPDIF from the external
>> device.
>> > The Digital Lock LED will light up solid when it syncs. If it flashes,
>> it's
>> > not sync'd
>> >
>> > Highest it will do is 48k 24bit
>> >
>> > I'd use it's SPDIF I/O, but my digital out on the Mec feeds my DAC-1.
>> >
>> > Hope that helps.
>> >
>> > What we need is a good AES/EBU box.(ahem) ;0)
>> >
>> > Mike
>> >
>> > "uptown jimmy" <johnson314@bellsouth.net> wrote:
>> > >Mike,
>> > >
>> > >Deej says you're clocking a Rumour along with your Paris rig. I have
> some
>> > >specific questions about that, if you don't mind emailing me. Or, we
> can
>> > >handle it here.
>> > >
>> > >Thanks!
>> > >Jimmy
>> > >
>> > >
>> >
>>
>>
>
>


The Police - Zenyetta Mondata and Ghost in the Machine... I didn't own a
player either at the time.
AA

"Paul Braun" <cygnus_diespamdie@ctgonline.org> wrote in message
news:42f0fbbd.14735558@218.214.23.222...
> On Wed, 03 Aug 2005 09:04:54 -0600, EK Sound
> <spamnot.info@eksoundNO.com> wrote:
>
>>One of my all-time favs is still Aja... first CD I ever bought... even
>>before I had anything to play it on!! :-)
>>
>
> And, in a weird sort of twist, my first CD was Asia by Asia, and I had
> it before I had a cd player. Jewel case looked pretty cool sitting up
> on my bulletin board in my dorm room.
>
> That was back when you could get stares of admiration from the cute
> chicks working the record stores when you bought a cd. Now, nothing.
>
> Got my first cd player, a second-gen Yammy, right after I graduated
> from college in '84. Spent stupid money on it, too, something like
> $400.
>
> Ahhh. The pain of early adopters.
>
> pab
>
> "Enjoy every sandwich." -- Warren Zevon
>
> "Here at Microsoft, Quality is job, oh, I dunno, maybe 7 or 8?"I purchased a Seagate 120gb HD recently. This is to be an audio only drive.
My boot/system HD is a Maxtor. My bios sees the Seagate drive, but Win98SE
does not. How the heck do I format this pup. I've been warned off any drive
formatting utilities that create overlays. So, I'd like to just use the
Windows FAT32 formatting thingy.
Thanks
MR"justcron" <justcron@hydrorecords.compound> wrote:
>I mean smoker/drinker or not, you gotta admit that bars just aint the same
>without that cloud and it feels like something has been taken away from

>life.

Our pubs here are still smokey at this point, but the bans are on their way.
I must admit I hear what you're saying. There's a definate part of me that
likes the smokey pub thing. Don't get me wrong I'm in favour of the bans.
The bans helped finally tip the balance and make me quit... I figured if
the future said I wouldn't be able to smoke in pubs, I'd better get in early
so that, when the bans arrive, I'm still happy to be in a pub and not chewing
my nails nervously.

So I'm very happy the bans are on their way, but despite all the damage they
do, there's a part of me which feels sentimental about the whole thing, rightly
or wrongly. I don't even really know why actually. I will certainly look
back fondly on some of the good times I spent in pubs smoking though, even
though I think the change is certainly for the better.

Cheers,
Kim.You don't like it?

Jimmy

"Aaron Allen" <nospam@not_here.dude> wrote in message news:42f143b5@linux...
> Shoot, I've had a mangler next to my set up for years, though I never
really
> use it.
>
> "DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote in message
> news:42f0ecdf$1@linux...
> > Hey Jimmy,
> >
> > If the MEC is getting it's clock signal from the Lucid, then the spdif
> > output signal will be derived from the Lucid as well. I'm using a pair
of
> > Digipatch units here routing spdif in and out of 3 x MECs, a Quantec
> > Yardstick, Sony V77 and a Lexicon PC 90 on one of them (the other is
> > routing
> > ADAT/optical I/O from one of the MECs and various I/O on my RME cards,
> > etc.)
> > The Digipatch should pass the signals with no problem and you should be
> > able
> > to Mangler them easily.
> >
> > ;o)
> >
> >
> >
> > uptown jimmy" <johnson314@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
> > news:42f0e1db$1@linux...
> >> Yeah, I've got an "ahem" as well. Deej......
> >>
> >> So Mike, what I want to do is clock a 3-MEC system from a Lucid clock
via
> >> BNC. Will the Rumour pick up the clcok signal via SPDIF from an MEC?
And
> >> I
> >> guess if it will do that it will pick the signal up with a Digipatch in
> > the
> >> way as well...I'm adding a Mangler soon....
> >>
> >> Thanks!
> >> Jimmy
> >>
> >>
> >> "Mike Claytor" <claytor@nospam.com> wrote in message
> >> news:42f01da4$1@linux...
> >> >
> >> > Hi Jimmy,
> >> >
> >> > I'm only using my Rumour with analog I/O right now, so it has to be
set
> > to
> >> > it's own internal clock.
> >> >
> >> > To use an external clock source, set the Rumour's digital clock
> > parameter
> >> > to "External" and it gets it's sync over the SPDIF from the external
> >> device.
> >> > The Digital Lock LED will light up solid when it syncs. If it
flashes,
> >> it's
> >> > not sync'd
> >> >
> >> > Highest it will do is 48k 24bit
> >> >
> >> > I'd use it's SPDIF I/O, but my digital out on the Mec feeds my DAC-1.
> >> >
> >> > Hope that helps.
> >> >
> >> > What we need is a good AES/EBU box.(ahem) ;0)
> >> >
> >> > Mike
> >> >
> >> > "uptown jimmy" <johnson314@bellsouth.net> wrote:
> >> > >Mike,
> >> > >
> >> > >Deej says you're clocking a Rumour along with your Paris rig. I have
> > some
> >> > >specific questions about that, if you don't mind emailing me. Or, we
> > can
> >> > >handle it here.
> >> > >
> >> > >Thanks!
> >> > >Jimmy
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> >
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
>
>
>Mike,

It might not be partitioned yet. Go to a command prompt and type FDISK.
Enable large disk support and set it up as a single partition.
Might have to reboot, then format.

JH

Mike R. wrote:
> I purchased a Seagate 120gb HD recently. This is to be an audio only drive.
> My boot/system HD is a Maxtor. My bios sees the Seagate drive, but Win98SE
> does not. How the heck do I format this pup. I've been warned off any drive
> formatting utilities that create overlays. So, I'd like to just use the
> Windows FAT32 formatting thingy.
> Thanks
> MRGet a copy of fdisk and format. Put them on a bootable floppy. Disconnect
all other hard drives but the one you wanna format. Boot to floppy, run
fdisk, reboot to floppy, format using format c: /z:64 command. Reconnect
your OS drive(s), bootup and you should be ready to write to the newly
formatted drive.

Dubya

"Mike R." <emarenot@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:42f149b0$1@linux...
>
> I purchased a Seagate 120gb HD recently. This is to be an audio only
> drive.
> My boot/system HD is a Maxtor. My bios sees the Seagate drive, but Win98SE
> does not. How the heck do I format this pup. I've been warned off any
> drive
> formatting utilities that create overlays. So, I'd like to just use the
> Windows FAT32 formatting thingy.
> Thanks
> MRreply with your tattoo info!

I dont think we've ever discussed this

me... tribal armband on my left arm so far.... more in the futureand if possible reply why you got the tat


mine reminds me not to never give up on music. I got it when I was 23, now
I'm 31 and I know theres more for me than normal work BS... back when I had
dreams I got the ink."DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote:
>Hey Jimmy,
>
>If the MEC is getting it's clock signal from the Lucid, then the spdif
>output signal will be derived from the Lucid as well. I'm using a pair of
>Digipatch units here routing spdif in and out of 3 x MECs, a Quantec
>Yardstick, Sony V77 and a Lexicon PC 90 on one of them (the other is routing
>ADAT/optical I/O from one of the MECs and various I/O on my RME cards, etc.)
>The Digipatch should pass the signals with no problem and you should be
able
>to Mangler them easily.
>
>;o)
>
>
>
>uptown jimmy" <johnson314@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
>news:42f0e1db$1@linux...
>> Yeah, I've got an "ahem" as well. Deej......
>>
>> So Mike, what I want to do is clock a 3-MEC system from a Lucid clock
via
>> BNC. Will the Rumour pick up the clcok signal via SPDIF from an MEC? And
I
>> guess if it will do that it will pick the signal up with a Digipatch in
>the
>> way as well...I'm adding a Mangler soon....
>>
>> Thanks!
>> Jimmy
>>
>>
>> "Mike Claytor" <claytor@nospam.com> wrote in message
>> news:42f01da4$1@linux...
>> >
>> > Hi Jimmy,
>> >
>> > I'm only using my Rumour with analog I/O right now, so it has to be
set
>to
>> > it's own internal clock.
>> >
>> > To use an external clock source, set the Rumour's digital clock
>parameter
>> > to "External" and it gets it's sync over the SPDIF from the external
>> device.
>> > The Digital Lock LED will light up solid when it syncs. If it flashes,
>> it's
>> > not sync'd
>> >
>> > Highest it will do is 48k 24bit
>> >
>> > I'd use it's SPDIF I/O, but my digital out on the Mec feeds my DAC-1.
>> >
>> > Hope that helps.
>> >
>> > What we need is a good AES/EBU box.(ahem) ;0)
>> >
>> > Mike
>> >
>> > "uptown jimmy" <johnson314@bellsouth.net> wrote:
>> > >Mike,
>> > >
>> > >Deej says you're clocking a Rumour along with your Paris rig. I have
>some
>> > >specific questions about that, if you don't mind emailing me. Or, we
>can
>> > >handle it here.
>> > >
>> > >Thanks!
>&
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gt; > >Jimmy
>> > >
>> > >
>> >
>>
>>
>
>I'll defer to The Maestro on this one, Jimmy. I've only used a one MEC setup.

Mike


"Mike Claytor" <claytor@nospam.com> wrote:
>
>"DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote:
>>Hey Jimmy,
>>
>>If the MEC is getting it's clock signal from the Lucid, then the spdif
>>output signal will be derived from the Lucid as well. I'm using a pair
of
>>Digipatch units here routing spdif in and out of 3 x MECs, a Quantec
>>Yardstick, Sony V77 and a Lexicon PC 90 on one of them (the other is routing
>>ADAT/optical I/O from one of the MECs and various I/O on my RME cards,
etc.)
>>The Digipatch should pass the signals with no problem and you should be
>able
>>to Mangler them easily.
>>
>>;o)
>>
>>
>>
>>uptown jimmy" <johnson314@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
>>news:42f0e1db$1@linux...
>>> Yeah, I've got an "ahem" as well. Deej......
>>>
>>> So Mike, what I want to do is clock a 3-MEC system from a Lucid clock
>via
>>> BNC. Will the Rumour pick up the clcok signal via SPDIF from an MEC?
And
>I
>>> guess if it will do that it will pick the signal up with a Digipatch
in
>>the
>>> way as well...I'm adding a Mangler soon....
>>>
>>> Thanks!
>>> Jimmy
>>>
>>>
>>> "Mike Claytor" <claytor@nospam.com> wrote in message
>>> news:42f01da4$1@linux...
>>> >
>>> > Hi Jimmy,
>>> >
>>> > I'm only using my Rumour with analog I/O right now, so it has to be
>set
>>to
>>> > it's own internal clock.
>>> >
>>> > To use an external clock source, set the Rumour's digital clock
>>parameter
>>> > to "External" and it gets it's sync over the SPDIF from the external
>>> device.
>>> > The Digital Lock LED will light up solid when it syncs. If it flashes,
>>> it's
>>> > not sync'd
>>> >
>>> > Highest it will do is 48k 24bit
>>> >
>>> > I'd use it's SPDIF I/O, but my digital out on the Mec feeds my DAC-1.
>>> >
>>> > Hope that helps.
>>> >
>>> > What we need is a good AES/EBU box.(ahem) ;0)
>>> >
>>> > Mike
>>> >
>>> > "uptown jimmy" <johnson314@bellsouth.net> wrote:
>>> > >Mike,
>>> > >
>>> > >Deej says you're clocking a Rumour along with your Paris rig. I have
>>some
>>> > >specific questions about that, if you don't mind emailing me. Or,
we
>>can
>>> > >handle it here.
>>> > >
>>> > >Thanks!
>>> > >Jimmy
>>> > >
>>> > >
>>> >
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>You mean "El Freako", the gear-geek?

Jimmy


"Mike Claytor" <claytor@nospam.com> wrote in message
news:42f17641$1@linux...
>
> I'll defer to The Maestro on this one, Jimmy. I've only used a one MEC
setup.
>
> Mike
>
>Over There

?

rawWasn't there a beer commercial about "tribal armbands"? One of those "Busch
vs. Miller" referee-calling-the-social-gaffes thingies?


"justcron" <justcron@hydrorecords.compound> wrote in message
news:42f17046@linux...
> reply with your tattoo info!
>
> I dont think we've ever discussed this
>
> me... tribal armband on my left arm so far.... more in the future
>
>dunno prolly...

I know Spudz McKenzie got nailed by a porcupine:

"uptown jimmy" <johnson314@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
news:42f17efe@linux...
> Wasn't there a beer commercial about "tribal armbands"? One of those
> "Busch
> vs. Miller" referee-calling-the-social-gaffes thingies?
>
>
> "justcron" <justcron@hydrorecords.compound> wrote in message
> news:42f17046@linux...
>> reply with your tattoo info!
>>
>> I dont think we've ever discussed this
>>
>> me... tribal armband on my left arm so far.... more in the future
>>
>>
>
>



Don't know whether anybody here lives in NY or Philly but I'm playing live
every thursday Night in August at The Makor in NYC
4,11,18,25 at 8PM-we play the songs from My Cd Miles to MIles,
In the Spirit of Miles Davis (recorded and mixed on Paris)
35 west 67th street
also At The World Cafe Live in Phil,Pa on August 17th. The band is
totally Killer with the best musicians that We have in NYC
JMMan, that hurts...I'm going to be in NY on Aug 14, 15, 16. Totally wrong timing.
I would love to see you play.
Rod Lincoln
"Jason Miles" <Jmiles45@aol.com> wrote:
>
>Don't know whether anybody here lives in NY or Philly but I'm playing live
>every thursday Night in August at The Makor in NYC
>4,11,18,25 at 8PM-we play the songs from My Cd Miles to MIles,
>In the Spirit of Miles Davis (recorded and mixed on Paris)
>35 west 67th street
>also At The World Cafe Live in Phil,Pa on August 17th. The band is
>totally Killer with the best musicians that We have in NYC
>JMfor me it was Peter Gabriel "So"
rod
"Aaron Allen" <nospam@not_here.dude> wrote:
>The Police - Zenyetta Mondata and Ghost in the Machine... I didn't own a

>player either at the time.
>AA
>
>"Paul Braun" <cygnus_diespamdie@ctgonline.org> wrote in message
>news:42f0fbbd.14735558@218.214.23.222...
>> On Wed, 03 Aug 2005 09:04:54 -0600, EK Sound
>> <spamnot.info@eksoundNO.com> wrote:
>>
>>>One of my all-time favs is still Aja... first CD I ever bought... even
>>>before I had anything to play it on!! :-)
>>>
>>
>> And, in a weird sort of twist, my first CD was Asia by Asia, and I had
>> it before I had a cd player. Jewel case looked pretty cool sitting up
>> on my bulletin board in my dorm room.
>>
>> That was back when you could get stares of admiration from the cute
>> chicks working the record stores when you bought a cd. Now, nothing.
>>
>> Got my first cd player, a second-gen Yammy, right after I graduated
>> from college in '84. Spent stupid money on it, too, something like
>> $400.
>>
>> Ahhh. The pain of early adopters.
>>
>> pab
>>
>> "Enjoy every sandwich." -- Warren Zevon
>>
>> "Here at Microsoft, Quality is job, oh, I dunno, maybe 7 or 8?"
>
>thats some good shit....

cant wait to get that police box set...

"Rod Lincoln" <rlincoln@kc.rr.com> wrote in message news:42f1986c$1@linux...
>
> for me it was Peter Gabriel "So"
> rod
> "Aaron Allen" <nospam@not_here.dude> wrote:
>>The Police - Zenyetta Mondata and Ghost in the Machine... I didn't own a
>
>>player either at the time.
>>AA
>>
>>"Paul Braun" <cygnus_diespamdie@ctgonline.org> wrote in message
>>news:42f0fbbd.14735558@218.214.23.222...
>>> On Wed, 03 Aug 2005 09:04:54 -0600, EK Sound
>>> <spamnot.info@eksoundNO.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>One of my all-time favs is still Aja... first CD I ever bought... even
>>>>before I had anything to play it on!! :-)
>>>>
>>>
>>> And, in a weird sort of twist, my first CD was Asia by Asia, and I had
>>> it before I had a cd player. Jewel case looked pretty cool sitting up
>>> on my bulletin board in my dorm room.
>>>
>>> That was back when you could get stares of admiration from the cute
>>> chicks working the record stores when you bought a cd. Now, nothing.
>>>
>>> Got my first cd player, a second-gen Yammy, right after I graduated
>>> from college in '84. Spent stupid money on it, too, something like
>>> $400.
>>>
>>> Ahhh. The pain of early adopters.
>>>
>>> pab
>>>
>>> "Enjoy every sandwich." -- Warren Zevon
>>>
>>> "Here at Microsoft, Quality is job, oh, I dunno, maybe 7 or 8?"
>>
>>
>Well I guess I'll mention my buddy Bob Tyrrell. He is becoming rather famous
in the tattoo world. He has done Kid Rock and others. His work is, well
....kinda sick!!! check out his work at: www.bobtyrrell.com

I've seen the Randy Rhoads, SRV, and a different Jimi Hendrix than the one
posted.


James

P.S. Bob smokes on guitar too!!!!!

"justcron" <justcron@hydrorecords.compound> wrote:
>reply with your tattoo info!
>
>I dont think we've ever discussed this
>
>me... tribal armband on my left arm so far.... more in the future
>
>Copy fdisk.exe to your win98 boot disk. Boot off your win98se boot
disk. When you run fdisk, remove all partitions and create one 120gb
partition. Marks advice about disconnecting all other hard drives is
excellent advice too. Don't forget that master/slave jumpers may have
to be changed if you remove drives temporarily.

John

W. Mark Wilson wrote:
> Get a copy of fdisk and format. Put them on a bootable floppy. Disconnect
> all other hard drives but the one you wanna format. Boot to floppy, run
> fdisk, reboot to floppy, format using format c: /z:64 command. Reconnect
> your OS drive(s), bootup and you should be ready to write to the newly
> formatted drive.
>
> Dubya
>
> "Mike R." <emarenot@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:42f149b0$1@linux...
>
>>I purchased a Seagate 120gb HD recently. This is to be an audio only
>>drive.
>>My boot/system HD is a Maxtor. My bios sees the Seagate drive, but Win98SE
>>does not. How the heck do I format this pup. I've been warned off any
>>drive
>>formatting utilities that create overlays. So, I'd like to just use the
>>Windows FAT32 formatting thingy.
>>Thanks
>>MR
>
>
>The doobie brothers and pat benatar are at the house of blues in myrtle
beach in a week or so and i won't be going because it's so smokey. bummer

Last time I saw alice cooper it was so smokey i was physically ill the
next day from being in a wall of smoke for 4 hours. Some of us really
don't get to see a lot of great acts due to smoke. So now I see mostly
outdoor events or non-smoking venues of which we have 2. But hey, life
is great.

John

Kim wrote:
> "justcron" <justcron@hydrorecords.compound> wrote:
>
>>I mean smoker/drinker or not, you gotta admit that bars just aint the same
>>without that cloud and it feels like something has been taken away from
>
>
>>life.
>
>
> Our pubs here are still smokey at this point, but the bans are on their way.
> I must admit I hear what you're saying. There's a definate part of me that
> likes the smokey pub thing. Don't get me wrong I'm in favour of the bans.
> The bans helped finally tip the balance and make me quit... I figured if
> the future said I wouldn't be able to smoke in pubs, I'd better get in early
> so that, when the bans arrive, I'm still happy to be in a pub and not chewing
> my nails nervously.
>
> So I'm very happy the bans are on their way, but despite all the damage they
> do, there's a part of me which feels sentimental about the whole thing, rightly
> or wrongly. I don't even really know why actually. I will certainly look
> back fondly on some of the good times I spent in pubs smoking though, even
> though I think the change is certainly for the better.
>
> Cheers,
> Kim.I want to introduce our 2 newest roadies, Daisy the Corgi and Bonnie the
Lab. Both have already provided a lot of fun and challenge. I hope to
get back to Paris soooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooon but for now
I'm baby sitter.

http://tinyurl.com/c2ouu

http://tinyurl.com/e4bo7Jeff, Mark, John. Thank you very much. I've been down for the count for a
few weeks with this unknown.
Big Cheers,
MR

"Mike R." <emarenot@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>I purchased a Seagate 120gb HD recently. This is to be an audio only drive.
> My boot/system HD is a Maxtor. My bios sees the Seagate drive, but Win98SE
>does not. How the heck do I format this pup. I've been warned off any
drive
>formatting utilities that create overlays. So, I'd like to just use the
>Windows FAT32 formatting thingy.
>Thanks
>MRGood thinking. A heavy lifter and a little detail guy -er, gal.
They're wicked cunnin'
MR

John <no@no.com> wrote:
>I want to introduce our 2 newest roadies, Daisy the Corgi and Bonnie the

>Lab. Both have already provided a lot of fun and challenge. I hope to

>get back to Paris soooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooon but for now
>I'm baby sitter.
>
>http://tinyurl.com/c2ouu
>
>http://tinyurl.com/e4bo7Hi, all.
I'm just about ready to give my quad EDS rig one last reprieve.
Is this mobo a contender? It seems we're on the cusp of workable vs. non-workable
PC architecture for the Paris hardware.
Thanks,
KimMan! You better watch that! Don't be dissin' Mr. S! You'll wind up stuffed
down a dry gas well somewhere on the Ute reservation!

I think for the immediate future at least you oughta address him as "Mr.
Simplicity, SIR!"


"uptown jimmy" <johnson314@bellsouth.net> wrote:
>You mean "El Freako", the gear-geek?
>
>Jimmy
>
>
>"Mike Claytor" <claytor@nospam.com> wrote in message
>news:42f17641$1@linux...
>>
>> I'll defer to The Maestro on this one, Jimmy. I've only used a one MEC
>setup.
>>
>> Mike
>>
>>
>
>
>oooooh you're such a softie ol'e man.

On Thu, 04 Aug 2005 07:28:51 +0000, John <no@no.com> wrote:

>I want to introduce our 2 newest roadies, Daisy the Corgi and Bonnie the
>Lab. Both have already provided a lot of fun and challenge. I hope to
>get back to Paris soooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooon but for now
>I'm baby sitter.
>
>http://tinyurl.com/c2ouu
>
>http://tinyurl.com/e4bo7"justcron" <justcron@hydrorecords.compound> wrote:
>reply with your tattoo info!
>
>I dont think we've ever discussed this
>
>me... tribal armband on my left arm so far.... more in the future
>
>

I got man tits.

Or as Ren Hoeck would say "HUGE pectoral muscles!"

;o)"justcron" <justcron@hydrorecords.compound> wrote:
>reply with your tattoo info!
>
>I dont think we've ever discussed this
>
>me... tribal armband on my left arm so far.... more in the future
>
>

Get a tat of a barbershop pole, too!

......for tha ladies!

:-)

actually I plan on going into the sideshow circuit when I retire as "one
of the last unmarked, unpierced codgers in existence!"

"The Un-Illustrated Man"

Tats are so mainstream now, and I especially hate "ass antlers" on women!
Give me a gal with nice clean, unmarked skin.

But then, I'm OLD and opinionated!!!I've never smoked in my life. But I actually feel the same way. It just isn't
quite the same atmosphere without the smoke.
I feel the same way about truckstops. A greasy cheeseburger and fries with
a coke justs tastes better to me when there's a little cig smoke mixed in.
rod
"Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>"justcron" <justcron@hydrorecords.compound> wrote:
>>I mean smoker/drinker or not, you gotta admit that bars just aint the same
>>without that cloud and it feels like something has been taken away from
>
>>life.
>
>Our pubs here are still smokey at this point, but the bans are on their
way.
>I must admit I hear what you're saying. There's a definate part of me that
>likes the smokey pub thing. Don't get me wrong I'm in favour of the bans.
>The bans helped finally tip the balance and make me quit... I figured
if
>the future said I wouldn't be able to smoke in pubs, I'd better get in early
>so that, when the bans arrive, I'm still happy to be in a pub and not chewing
>my nails nervously.
>
>So I'm very happy the bans are on their way, but despite all the damage
they
>do, there's a part of me which feels sentimental about the whole thing,
rightly
>or wrongly. I don't even really know why actually. I will certainly look
>back fondly on some of the good times I spent in pubs smoking though, even
>though I think the change is certainly for the better.
>
>Cheers,
>Kim.As much as I hate cig smoke, I've gotta' agree with the *atmosphere* thing.
there is a little greasy spoon diner here, right below my main office
downtown.

http://www.durangodiner.com/About.htm

It's been there forever and there is a smoking and non smoking area which is
totally useless because there is no partition of any sort between the two.

they serve good 'ol high cholesterol breakfast food dripping in bacon grease
and butter, ll the locals and toursits mingle, read the morning paper and
chow down while drinking mass quantities of black coffee and breathing in
the cigarette smoke laden air and listening to 70's rock on the radio.

Nothing like a little Led Zep and carbon monoxide with your eggs in the
morning.

I go there for breakfast whenever I need a cholesterol hit.

;o)


"Rod Lincoln" <rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com> wrote in message
news:42f237ca$1@linux...
>
> I've never smoked in my life. But I actually feel the same way. It just
isn't
> quite the same atmosphere without the smoke.
> I feel the same way about truckstops. A greasy cheeseburger and fries with
> a coke justs tastes better to me when there's a little cig smoke mixed in.
> rod
> "Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >"justcron" <justcron@hydrorecords.compound> wrote:
> >>I mean smoker/drinker or not, you gotta admit that bars just aint the
same
> >>without that cloud and it feels like something has been taken away from
> >
> >>life.
> >
> >Our pubs here are still smokey at this point, but the bans are on their
> way.
> >I must admit I hear what you're saying. There's a definate part of me
that
> >likes the smokey pub thing. Don't get me wrong I'm in favour of the bans.
> >The bans helped finally tip the balance and make me quit... I figured
> if
> >the future said I wouldn't be able to smoke in pubs, I'd better get in
early
> >so that, when the bans arrive, I'm still happy to be in a pub and not
chewing
> >my nails nervously.
> >
> >So I'm very happy the bans are on their way, but despite all the damage
> they
> >do, there's a part of me which feels sentimental about the whole thing,
> rightly
> >or wrongly. I don't even really know why actually. I will certainly look
> >back fondly on some of the good times I spent in pubs smoking though,
even
> >though I think the change is certainly for the better.
> >
> >Cheers,
> >Kim.
>"DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote in message
news:42f23e5d@linux...
> As much as I hate cig smoke, I've gotta' agree with the *atmosphere*
> thing.
> there is a little greasy spoon diner here, right below my main office
> downtown.
>
> http://www.durangodiner.com/About.htm

yum... I'll take a Senior Ranger and potato with everything.

BTW, Durango looks awesome on google earthThese guys are ***really*** good musicians.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/telemarkskier/sets/341359/

Benny is an old friend and did the demo's here a couple of years ago that
were used in the production of a CD called Old Hands by the Yonder Mountain
String Band for which he wrote many of the songs.

The other players on this project are members of the Broke Mountain
Bluegrass band. I did a demo session for them back in 2003 which opened up
some doors for them on the Bluegrass festival circuit. They have now split
up but have bought in a new guitarist named John Stigley who is nothing
short of unbelievable. I've got him set up on a mic here in the control room
and last night I could have sworn I was listening to Tony Rice playing.

It's really a pleasure dealing with this bunch. Real pro's.........and real
good.

;o)congrats deej!

"DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote in message
news:42f242d5$1@linux...
> These guys are ***really*** good musicians.
>
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/telemarkskier/sets/341359/
>
> Benny is an old friend and did the demo's here a couple of years ago that
> were used in the production of a CD called Old Hands by the Yonder
> Mountain
> String Band for which he wrote many of the songs.
>
> The other players on this project are members of the Broke Mountain
> Bluegrass band. I did a demo session for them back in 2003 which opened up
> some doors for them on the Bluegrass festival circuit. They have now split
> up but have bought in a new guitarist named John Stigley who is nothing
> short of unbelievable. I've got him set up on a mic here in the control
> room
> and last night I could have sworn I was listening to Tony Rice playing.
>
> It's really a pleasure dealing with this bunch. Real pro's.........and
> real
> good.
>
> ;o)
>
>"Mike Claytor" <claytor@nospam.com> wrote in message
news:42f220db$1@linux...
>
> "justcron" <justcron@hydrorecords.compound> wrote:
>>reply with your tattoo info!
>>
>>I dont think we've ever discussed this
>>
>>me... tribal armband on my left arm so far.... more in the future
>>
>>
>
> Get a tat of a barbershop pole, too!

Ink is supposed to be kinda cheesy... its really about whether it means
something and is quality work. Meaningless tats done shittily are the
worst.

> .....for tha ladies!
>
> :-)
>
> actually I plan on going into the sideshow circuit when I retire as "one
> of the last unmarked, unpierced codgers in existence!"
>
> "The Un-Illustrated Man"
>
> Tats are so mainstream now, and I especially hate "ass antlers" on women!
> Give me a gal with nice clean, unmarked skin.

the only thing good about ass antlers is that its a sure sign they want to
get bent over... but sometimes the slut thing is a turnoff....

> But then, I'm OLD and opinionated!!!

nothin wrong with that.

you know who has it down are the Asian inkers... now thats some hot shitCongrats, Deej!

Cheers,
-Jamie K

PS. I enjoyed shooting concert footage of Yonder Mountain at Lyons a
while back. Great bunch.


DJ wrote:
> These guys are ***really*** good musicians.
>
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/telemarkskier/sets/341359/
>
> Benny is an old friend and did the demo's here a couple of years ago that
> were used in the production of a CD called Old Hands by the Yonder Mountain
> String Band for which he wrote many of the songs.
>
> The other players on this project are members of the Broke Mountain
> Bluegrass band. I did a demo session for them back in 2003 which opened up
> some doors for them on the Bluegrass festival circuit. They have now split
> up but have bought in a new guitarist named John Stigley who is nothing
> short of unbelievable. I've got him set up on a mic here in the control room
> and last night I could have sworn I was listening to Tony Rice playing.
>
> It's really a pleasure dealing with this bunch. Real pro's.........and real
> good.
>
> ;o)
>
>Maybe I'll get some hair tatooed on my scalp.

;o)

"justcron" <justcron@hydrorecords.compound> wrote in message
news:42f25051@linux...
>
> "Mike Claytor" <claytor@nospam.com> wrote in message
> news:42f220db$1@linux...
> >
> > "justcron" <justcron@hydrorecords.compound> wrote:
> >>reply with your tattoo info!
> >>
> >>I dont think we've ever discussed this
> >>
> >>me... tribal armband on my left arm so far.... more in the future
> >>
> >>
> >
> > Get a tat of a barbershop pole, too!
>
> Ink is supposed to be kinda cheesy... its really about whether it means
> something and is quality work. Meaningless tats done shittily are the
> worst.
>
> > .....for tha ladies!
> >
> > :-)
> >
> > actually I plan on going into the sideshow circuit when I retire as "one
> > of the last unmarked, unpierced codgers in existence!"
> >
> > "The Un-Illustrated Man"
> >
> > Tats are so mainstream now, and I especially hate "ass antlers" on
women!
> > Give me a gal with nice clean, unmarked skin.
>
> the only thing good about ass antlers is that its a sure sign they want to
> get bent over... but sometimes the slut thing is a turnoff....
>
> > But then, I'm OLD and opinionated!!!
>
> nothin wrong with that.
>
> you know who has it down are the Asian inkers... now thats some hot shit
>
>This is a multi-part message in MIME format.

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DJ,
Now your talkin' !

Good luck,
Tom
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These guys are ***really*** good musicians.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/telemarkskier/sets/341359/

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and last night I could have sworn I was listening to Tony Rice =
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It's really a pleasure dealing with this bunch. Real pro's.........and =
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good.

;o)


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------=_NextPart_000_0053_01C598FD.6E13DAF0--Hello all, my name is Martin from Argentina.
I have problems with Paris and XP Professional Edition.


I have a Paris black system width:

- 2 EDS 1000, 2 C16, 1 MEC with 3 plates expansors and one 442 module, and
paris software version 3.0


1) I was Install PAris in XP with the following device:

- P IV 3,2 Ghz HT bus 800 mhz
- Matherboard Intel D945GNT
- 1 Gb of ram Kingston DDR2 dual channel
- SATA Drive width 160 Gb

With this system Paris occasionally crashes, giving the following error
message:

"Error in initializing Paris Engine. Non interface was connected to the
masters card. Please make sure the cable is firmly connected and re-launch
Paris."


Also Paris occasionally crashes with an exception while shutting down Paris.



2) Alter, i Was Install the same system paris in another equipment, also
with XP with the following device:

- P IV 1,8 Ghz
- Matherborad MSI 6737
- 512 Mb memory ram DDR
- ATA Drive 80 Gb

.... and the system seems to work correctly.



My question is, exists some known problem about Paris with an equipment of
the characteristics of point 1?



I thank for any information that can help me with this problem ...


P/D: both installations was made Put 1 EDS card at time, as it suggests by
John in the article: "XP on Paris progress here" from: idea.emuensoniqparis
Newsgroups.grin, my forehead gets bigger every year... but my brain dont.

"DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote in message
news:42f2570c$1@linux...
> Maybe I'll get some hair tatooed on my scalp.
>
> ;o)
>
> "justcron" <justcron@hydrorecords.compound> wrote in message
> news:42f25051@linux...
>>
>> "Mike Claytor" <claytor@nospam.com> wrote in message
>> news:42f220db$1@linux...
>> >
>> > "justcron" <justcron@hydrorecords.compound> wrote:
>> >>reply with your tattoo info!
>> >>
>> >>I dont think we've ever discussed this
>> >>
>> >>me... tribal armband on my left arm so far.... more in the future
>> >>
>> >>
>> >
>> > Get a tat of a barbershop pole, too!
>>
>> Ink is supposed to be kinda cheesy... its really about whether it means
>> something and is quality work. Meaningless tats done shittily are the
>> worst.
>>
>> > .....for tha ladies!
>> >
>> > :-)
>> >
>> > actually I plan on going into the sideshow circuit when I retire as
>> > "one
>> > of the last unmarked, unpierced codgers in existence!"
>> >
>> > "The Un-Illustrated Man"
>> >
>> > Tats are so mainstream now, and I especially hate "ass antlers" on
> women!
>> > Give me a gal with nice clean, unmarked skin.
>>
>> the only thing good about ass antlers is that its a sure sign they want
>> to
>> get bent over... but sometimes the slut thing is a turnoff....
>>
>> > But then, I'm OLD and opinionated!!!
>>
>> nothin wrong with that.
>>
>> you know who has it down are the Asian inkers... now thats some hot shit
>>
>>
>
>i'd do the ron popiel thing first as it's not permanent to see if you
like the "ink" look. ;o)

On Thu, 4 Aug 2005 11:58:46 -0600, "DJ"
<animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote:

>Maybe I'll get some hair tatooed on my scalp.
>
>;o)
>
>"justcron" <justcron@hydrorecords.compound> wrote in message
>news:42f25051@linux...
>>
>> "Mike Claytor" <claytor@nospam.com> wrote in message
>> news:42f220db$1@linux...
>> >
>> > "justcron" <justcron@hydrorecords.compound> wrote:
>> >>reply with your tattoo info!
>> >>
>> >>I dont think we've ever discussed this
>> >>
>> >>me... tribal armband on my left arm so far.... more in the future
>> >>
>> >>
>> >
>> > Get a tat of a barbershop pole, too!
>>
>> Ink is supposed to be kinda cheesy... its really about whether it means
>> something and is quality work. Meaningless tats done shittily are the
>> worst.
>>
>> > .....for tha ladies!
>> >
>> > :-)
>> >
>> > actually I plan on going into the sideshow circuit when I retire as "one
>> > of the last unmarked, unpierced codgers in existence!"
>> >
>> > "The Un-Illustrated Man"
>> >
>> > Tats are so mainstream now, and I especially hate "ass antlers" on
>women!
>> > Give me a gal with nice clean, unmarked skin.
>>
>> the only thing good about ass antlers is that its a sure sign they want to
>> get bent over... but sometimes the slut thing is a turnoff....
>>
>> > But then, I'm OLD and opinionated!!!
>>
>> nothin wrong with that.
>>
>> you know who has it down are the Asian inkers... now thats some hot shit
>>
>>
>About 11:00 PM last night. Session winding down.

;o)

"DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote in message
news:42f242d5$1@linux...
> These guys are ***really*** good musicians.
>
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/telemarkskier/sets/341359/
>
> Benny is an old friend and did the demo's here a couple of years ago that
> were used in the production of a CD called Old Hands by the Yonder
Mountain
> String Band for which he wrote many of the songs.
>
> The other players on this project are members of the Broke Mountain
> Bluegrass band. I did a demo session for them back in 2003 which opened up
> some doors for them on the Bluegrass festival circuit. They have now split
> up but have bought in a new guitarist named John Stigley who is nothing
> short of unbelievable. I've got him set up on a mic here in the control
room
> and last night I could have sworn I was listening to Tony Rice playing.
>
> It's really a pleasure dealing with this bunch. Real pro's.........and
real
> good.
>
> ;o)
>
>




oh happy days...enjoy.

On Thu, 4 Aug 2005 10:32:34 -0600, "DJ"
<animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote:

>These guys are ***really*** good musicians.
>
>http://www.flickr.com/photos/telemarkskier/sets/341359/
>
>Benny is an old friend and did the demo's here a couple of years ago that
>were used in the production of a CD called Old Hands by the Yonder Mountain
>String Band for which he wrote many of the songs.
>
>The other players on this project are members of the Broke Mountain
>Bluegrass band. I did a demo session for them back in 2003 which opened up
>some doors for them on the Bluegrass festival circuit. They have now split
>up but have bought in a new guitarist named John Stigley who is nothing
>short of unbelievable. I've got him set up on a mic here in the control room
>and last night I could have sworn I was listening to Tony Rice playing.
>
>It's really a pleasure dealing with this bunch. Real pro's.........and real
>good.
>
>;o)
>I was thinking about just getting some of those nylon weed eater spools,
cutting strands to length and pluggin'em in. I sorta like the yellow/orange
color and they wouldn't look any worse than a lot of the things that people
do to *real* hair these days.

;oP

BTW, I'll be checkin in with Kangaroo today.


"rick" <parnell68@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:cbn4f1dbbbs0srto9bcbtr8g77shntstm9@4ax.com...
> i'd do the ron popiel thing first as it's not permanent to see if you
> like the "ink" look. ;o)
>
> On Thu, 4 Aug 2005 11:58:46 -0600, "DJ"
> <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote:
>
> >Maybe I'll get some hair tatooed on my scalp.
> >
> >;o)
> >
> >"justcron" <justcron@hydrorecords.compound> wrote in message
> >news:42f25051@linux...
> >>
> >> "Mike Claytor" <claytor@nospam.com> wrote in message
> >> news:42f220db$1@linux...
> >> >
> >> > "justcron" <justcron@hydrorecords.compound> wrote:
> >> >>reply with your tattoo info!
> >> >>
> >> >>I dont think we've ever discussed this
> >> >>
> >> >>me... tribal armband on my left arm so far.... more in the future
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >
> >> > Get a tat of a barbershop pole, too!
> >>
> >> Ink is supposed to be kinda cheesy... its really about whether it means
> >> something and is quality work. Meaningless tats done shittily are the
> >> worst.
> >>
> >> > .....for tha ladies!
> >> >
> >> > :-)
> >> >
> >> > actually I plan on going into the sideshow circuit when I retire as
"one
> >> > of the last unmarked, unpierced codgers in existence!"
> >> >
> >> > "The Un-Illustrated Man"
> >> >
> >> > Tats are so mainstream now, and I especially hate "ass antlers" on
> >women!
> >> > Give me a gal with nice clean, unmarked skin.
> >>
> >> the only thing good about ass antlers is that its a sure sign they want
to
> >> get bent over... but sometimes the slut thing is a turnoff....
> >>
> >> > But then, I'm OLD and opinionated!!!
> >>
> >> nothin wrong with that.
> >>
> >> you know who has it down are the Asian inkers... now thats some hot
shit
> >>
> >>
> >
>"DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote in message
news:42f2570c$1@linux...
> Maybe I'll get some hair tatooed on my scalp.
>
> ;o)



Can they do that?

;-)

db

>
> "justcron" <justcron@hydrorecords.compound> wrote in message
> news:42f25051@linux...
> >
> > "Mike Claytor" <claytor@nospam.com> wrote in message
> > news:42f220db$1@linux...
> > >
> > > "justcron" <justcron@hydrorecords.compound> wrote:
> > >>reply with your tattoo info!
> > >>
> > >>I dont think we've ever discussed this
> > >>
> > >>me... tribal armband on my left arm so far.... more in the future
> > >>
> > >>
> > >
> > > Get a tat of a barbershop pole, too!
> >
> > Ink is supposed to be kinda cheesy... its really about whether it means
> > something and is quality work. Meaningless tats done shittily are the
> > worst.
> >
> > > .....for tha ladies!
> > >
> > > :-)
> > >
> > > actually I plan on going into the sideshow circuit when I retire as
"one
> > > of the last unmarked, unpierced codgers in existence!"
> > >
> > > "The Un-Illustrated Man"
> > >
> > > Tats are so mainstream now, and I especially hate "ass antlers" on
> women!
> > > Give me a gal with nice clean, unmarked skin.
> >
> > the only thing good about ass antlers is that its a sure sign they want
to
> > get bent over... but sometimes the slut thing is a turnoff....
> >
> > > But then, I'm OLD and opinionated!!!
> >
> > nothin wrong with that.
> >
> > you know who has it down are the Asian inkers... now thats some hot shit
> >
> >
>
>Hey Martin,

Disable HT in the bios if it already isn't.

David.

Martin wrote:
> Hello all, my name is Martin from Argentina.
> I have problems with Paris and XP Professional Edition.
>
>
> I have a Paris black system width:
>
> - 2 EDS 1000, 2 C16, 1 MEC with 3 plates expansors and one 442 module, and
> paris software version 3.0
>
>
> 1) I was Install PAris in XP with the following device:
>
> - P IV 3,2 Ghz HT bus 800 mhz
> - Matherboard Intel D945GNT
> - 1 Gb of ram Kingston DDR2 dual channel
> - SATA Drive width 160 Gb
>
> With this system Paris occasionally crashes, giving the following error
> message:
>
> "Error in initializing Paris Engine. Non interface was connected to the
> masters card. Please make sure the cable is firmly connected and re-launch
> Paris."
>
>
> Also Paris occasionally crashes with an exception while shutting down Paris.
>
>
>
> 2) Alter, i Was Install the same system paris in another equipment, also
> with XP with the following device:
>
> - P IV 1,8 Ghz
> - Matherborad MSI 6737
> - 512 Mb memory ram DDR
> - ATA Drive 80 Gb
>
> ... and the system seems to work correctly.
>
>
>
> My question is, exists some known problem about Paris with an equipment of
> the characteristics of point 1?
>
>
>
> I thank for any information that can help me with this problem ...
>
>
> P/D: both installations was made Put 1 EDS card at time, as it suggests by
> John in the article: "XP on Paris progress here" from: idea.emuensoniqparis
> Newsgroups.
>
>This is a multi-part message in MIME format.

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"DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote:
>Maybe I'll get some hair tatooed on my scalp.
>
>;o)
>

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---=_linux42f27358--"Mike Claytor" <claytor@nospam.com> wrote:
>
>"justcron" <justcron@hydrorecords.compound> wrote:
>>reply with your tattoo info!
>>
>>I dont think we've ever discussed this
>>
>>me... tribal armband on my left arm so far.... more in the future
>>
>>
>
>I got man tits.
>
>Or as Ren Hoeck would say "HUGE pectoral muscles!"
>
>;o)

Oh! You said "Tats!"

Nevermind.Hi,
Just wondered if anyone has any contact details (phone / e-mail) for Chuck.
I pay for NoLimit via PayPal about 10 days ago, but haven't had an e-mail
with the nolimit attachment back from him. I'm in fairly urgent need of it
for a current project. I'm not sure how copy protection works, but perhaps
someone could e-mail me nolimit in the meantime, until chuck gets back to
me. I do have a paypal receipt... MAny thanks.

Dandont stress it boss... dude will get ya

"db" <daniel_burneNOSPAM@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:42f275e0$1@linux...
>
> Hi,
> Just wondered if anyone has any contact details (phone / e-mail) for
> Chuck.
> I pay for NoLimit via PayPal about 10 days ago, but haven't had an e-mail
> with the nolimit attachment back from him. I'm in fairly urgent need of it
> for a current project. I'm not sure how copy protection works, but perhaps
> someone could e-mail me nolimit in the meantime, until chuck gets back to
> me. I do have a paypal receipt... MAny thanks.
>
> DanI've got a similar picture only it's of a babe, and the guy's not mowing the
hair on her head! ;>)

Tony


"Mike Claytor" <claytor@nospam.com> wrote in message news:42f27359@linux...
>
> "DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote:
>>Maybe I'll get some hair tatooed on my scalp.
>>
>>;o)
>>
>
> This is good!Very cool!
Rod
"DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote:
>These guys are ***really*** good musicians.
>
>http://www.flickr.com/photos/telemarkskier/sets/341359/
>
>Benny is an old friend and did the demo's here a couple of years ago that
>were used in the production of a CD called Old Hands by the Yonder Mountain
>String Band for which he wrote many of the songs.
>
>The other players on this project are members of the Broke Mountain
>Bluegrass band. I did a demo session for them back in 2003 which opened
up
>some doors for them on the Bluegrass festival circuit. They have now split
>up but have bought in a new guitarist named John Stigley who is nothing
>short of unbelievable. I've got him set up on a mic here in the control
room
>and last night I could have sworn I was listening to Tony Rice playing.
>
>It's really a pleasure dealing with this bunch. Real pro's.........and real
>good.
>
>;o)
>
>Kim,

I still haven't had a chance to really take it through it's paces. I was
meaning to get to it last weekend but ended up driving to Sydney to buy a
keyboard...

That said, it's very quick and seems pretty stable. Paris still crashes occassionally
when switching projects, but my system was doing that before the new MB and
I haven't yet done a fresh install, so that's probably an existing problem
not related to this hardware.

If all goes according to plan I'll be re-installing everything this weekend
and giving it a proper test if you care to wait. My guess is she's good though.

Cheers,
Kim.

"Kim W." <no@way.jose'> wrote:
>
>Hi, all.
>I'm just about ready to give my quad EDS rig one last reprieve.
>Is this mobo a contender? It seems we're on the cusp of workable vs. non-workable
>PC architecture for the Paris hardware.
>Thanks,
>Kim
>
>
>
>what the hell you talking about, "ass-antlers" are the shit. i've had mine
for a while.
>Tats are so mainstream now, and I especially hate "ass antlers"

michael"michael bliss" <mbliss1@austin.rr.com> wrote:
>
>what the hell you talking about, "ass-antlers" are the shit. i've had mine
>for a while.
>>Tats are so mainstream now, and I especially hate "ass antlers"
>
>michael

Man, all I've ever seen when you've been over here was Plumber's Crack!

Hey! Seriously (as Homestar says..) I need a mic test ASSistant sometime.
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I tried www.myparispro.com today and it was password protected.

any reason for this?

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What happened to www.myparispro.com?no idea.. same thing here though.=20

AA

"Craig Mitchell" <camitchell@cfl.rr.com> wrote in message =
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Craig
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RZ

"Rob Arsenault" <mani2@nbnet.nb.ca> wrote in message news:42f2d4f1@linux...
> Guess us old ME or 98SE Paris users will have to jump to XP if we want to
> use the new UAD-1 plugs. Kinda sucks but I guess we can't hold onto that
> security blanket forever.....!!
>
> Rob_A
>
> http://www.uaudio.com/webzine/2005/august/index5.html
>
>Hi,
the same here. I use to visit often. Luckily I have no problems with my
Paris system at the moment.

Martin

P.S. try your name and your EDS serial number for login.....no, just
kidding...


"Aaron Allen" <nospam@not_here.dude> schrieb im Newsbeitrag
news:42f2d660$1@linux...
What happened to www.myparispro.com?no idea.. same thing here though.

AA

"Craig Mitchell" <camitchell@cfl.rr.com> wrote in message
news:BF183316.149C4%camitchell@cfl.rr.com...

I tried www.myparispro.com today and it was password protected.

any reason for this?

Craigi mailed the wavelab cleansed ones on monday. i started to experiment
with some other methods yesterday but shut down due to electrical
storms.

On Thu, 4 Aug 2005 12:31:59 -0600, "DJ"
<animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote:

>I was thinking about just getting some of those nylon weed eater spools,
>cutting strands to length and pluggin'em in. I sorta like the yellow/orange
>color and they wouldn't look any worse than a lot of the things that people
>do to *real* hair these days.
>
>;oP
>
>BTW, I'll be checkin in with Kangaroo today.
>
>
>"rick" <parnell68@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>news:cbn4f1dbbbs0srto9bcbtr8g77shntstm9@4ax.com...
>> i'd do the ron popiel thing first as it's not permanent to see if you
>> like the "ink" look. ;o)
>>
>> On Thu, 4 Aug 2005 11:58:46 -0600, "DJ"
>> <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote:
>>
>> >Maybe I'll get some hair tatooed on my scalp.
>> >
>> >;o)
>> >
>> >"justcron" <justcron@hydrorecords.compound> wrote in message
>> >news:42f25051@linux...
>> >>
>> >> "Mike Claytor" <claytor@nospam.com> wrote in message
>> >> news:42f220db$1@linux...
>> >> >
>> >> > "justcron" <justcron@hydrorecords.compound> wrote:
>> >> >>reply with your tattoo info!
>> >> >>
>> >> >>I dont think we've ever discussed this
>> >> >>
>> >> >>me... tribal armband on my left arm so far.... more in the future
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >
>> >> > Get a tat of a barbershop pole, too!
>> >>
>> >> Ink is supposed to be kinda cheesy... its really about whether it means
>> >> something and is quality work. Meaningless tats done shittily are the
>> >> worst.
>> >>
>> >> > .....for tha ladies!
>> >> >
>> >> > :-)
>> >> >
>> >> > actually I plan on going into the sideshow circuit when I retire as
>"one
>> >> > of the last unmarked, unpierced codgers in existence!"
>> >> >
>> >> > "The Un-Illustrated Man"
>> >> >
>> >> > Tats are so mainstream now, and I especially hate "ass antlers" on
>> >women!
>> >> > Give me a gal with nice clean, unmarked skin.
>> >>
>> >> the only thing good about ass antlers is that its a sure sign they want
>to
>> >> get bent over... but sometimes the slut thing is a turnoff....
>> >>
>> >> > But then, I'm OLD and opinionated!!!
>> >>
>> >> nothin wrong with that.
>> >>
>> >> you know who has it down are the Asian inkers... now thats some hot
>shit
>> >>
>> >>
>> >
>>
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Deej, just don't start changing anything now, will you...
wait till it's all over.
--=20
Martin Harrington
www.lendanear-sound.com

"Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote in message =
news:42f258db@linux...
DJ,
Now your talkin' !

Good luck,
Tom
"DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote in message =
news:42f242d5$1@linux...
These guys are ***really*** good musicians.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/telemarkskier/sets/341359/

Benny is an old friend and did the demo's here a couple of years ago =
that
were used in the production of a CD called Old Hands by the Yonder =
Mountain
String Band for which he wrote many of the songs.

The other players on this project are members of the Broke Mountain
Bluegrass band. I did a demo session for them back in 2003 which =
opened up
some doors for them on the Bluegrass festival circuit. They have now =
split
up but have bought in a new guitarist named John Stigley who is =
nothing
short of unbelievable. I've got him set up on a mic here in the =
control room
and last night I could have sworn I was listening to Tony Rice =
playing.

It's really a pleasure dealing with this bunch. Real =
pro's.........and real
good.

;o)


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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Good luck,</FONT></DIV>
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guys=20
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is an old friend and did the demo's here a couple of years ago =
that<BR>were=20
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songs.<BR><BR>The=20
other players on this proj
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Have fun & kick some bootay on it!

Neil


"DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote:
>These guys are ***really*** good musicians.
>
>http://www.flickr.com/photos/telemarkskier/sets/341359/
>
>Benny is an old friend and did the demo's here a couple of years ago that
>were used in the production of a CD called Old Hands by the Yonder Mountain
>String Band for which he wrote many of the songs.
>
>The other players on this project are members of the Broke Mountain
>Bluegrass band. I did a demo session for them back in 2003 which opened
up
>some doors for them on the Bluegrass festival circuit. They have now split
>up but have bought in a new guitarist named John Stigley who is nothing
>short of unbelievable. I've got him set up on a mic here in the control
room
>and last night I could have sworn I was listening to Tony Rice playing.
>
>It's really a pleasure dealing with this bunch. Real pro's.........and real
>good.
>
>;o)
>
>Is anyone else currently hosting the info/applications off that page?

AA

"Martin" <st-maartin.noespamm@gmx.de> wrote in message
news:42f31925@linux...
> Hi,
> the same here. I use to visit often. Luckily I have no problems with my
> Paris system at the moment.
>
> Martin
>
> P.S. try your name and your EDS serial number for login.....no, just
> kidding...
>
>
> "Aaron Allen" <nospam@not_here.dude> schrieb im Newsbeitrag
> news:42f2d660$1@linux...
> What happened to www.myparispro.com?no idea.. same thing here though.
>
> AA
>
> "Craig Mitchell" <camitchell@cfl.rr.com> wrote in message
> news:BF183316.149C4%camitchell@cfl.rr.com...
>
> I tried www.myparispro.com today and it was password protected.
>
> any reason for this?
>
> Craig
>Strange this is I get a similar thing at the ParisFAQ site.

David.

Aaron Allen wrote:
> Is anyone else currently hosting the info/applications off that page?
>
> AA
>
> "Martin" <st-maartin.noespamm@gmx.de> wrote in message
> news:42f31925@linux...
>
>>Hi,
>>the same here. I use to visit often. Luckily I have no problems with my
>>Paris system at the moment.
>>
>>Martin
>>
>>P.S. try your name and your EDS serial number for login.....no, just
>>kidding...
>>
>>
>>"Aaron Allen" <nospam@not_here.dude> schrieb im Newsbeitrag
>>news:42f2d660$1@linux...
>>What happened to www.myparispro.com?no idea.. same thing here though.
>>
>>AA
>>
>> "Craig Mitchell" <camitchell@cfl.rr.com> wrote in message
>>news:BF183316.149C4%camitchell@cfl.rr.com...
>>
>> I tried www.myparispro.com today and it was password protected.
>>
>> any reason for this?
>>
>> Craig
>>
>
>
>I've got a buddy looking for an EDS card, if anyone is selling....

Jimmythey can pry my EDS from my COLD DEAD HANDS

:)

"uptown jimmy" <johnson314@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
news:42f3cdd0$1@linux...
> I've got a buddy looking for an EDS card, if anyone is selling....
>
> Jimmy
>
>
>Yeah, I'm stockpiling myself. Got four, use three, one's a spare. Luuuuuvvvv
my Paris.

Jimmy


"justcron" <justcron@hydrorecords.compound> wrote in message
news:42f3d65a$1@linux...
> they can pry my EDS from my COLD DEAD HANDS
>
> :)
>
> "uptown jimmy" <johnson314@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
> news:42f3cdd0$1@linux...
> > I've got a buddy looking for an EDS card, if anyone is selling....
> >
> > Jimmy
> >
> >
> >
>
>Thesoniq sells them brand new for $300.00.


"uptown jimmy" <johnson314@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
news:42f403b7$1@linux...
> Yeah, I'm stockpiling myself. Got four, use three, one's a spare.
Luuuuuvvvv
> my Paris.
>
> Jimmy
>
>
> "justcron" <justcron@hydrorecords.compound> wrote in message
> news:42f3d65a$1@linux...
> > they can pry my EDS from my COLD DEAD HANDS
> >
> > :)
> >
> > "uptown jimmy" <johnson314@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
> > news:42f3cdd0$1@linux...
> > > I've got a buddy looking for an EDS card, if anyone is selling....
> > >
> > > Jimmy
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>Whoa. A Dimension D plug. Interesting....

On Thu, 4 Aug 2005 23:54:16 -0300, "Rob Arsenault" <mani2@nbnet.nb.ca>
wrote:

>Guess us old ME or 98SE Paris users will have to jump to XP if we want to
>use the new UAD-1 plugs. Kinda sucks but I guess we can't hold onto that
>security blanket forever.....!!
>
>Rob_A
>
>http://www.uaudio.com/webzine/2005/august/index5.html
>Craig Mitchell <camitchell@cfl.rr.com> wrote:
>
>I tried www.myparispro.com today and it was password protected.
>any reason for this?
>
>Craig


Hi,

I just checked at **http://www.myparispro.com/** out of curiosity, and it
showed up fine.

Larry Hoganhi again
one last question
about the synchronisation
how shouyld i synch the ada8000 to my mec ?
does the adat card send out the synch ?
or do i need a wordclock
a mec send to an if442 already thru the bnc's

does that mean :
with the ada8000 as a slave
1)i need a bnc wordclock cable from the if442 to the ada8000
or
2)an wordclock from mec to if442 and the otpical cables beetween the mec and
the ada8000 is a good solution.
i just never wired anything through adat.

thanks.

"Jeff hoover" <jkhoover@excite.com> a écrit dans le message de news:
42ef04bd@linux...
> Aaron,
>
> It's definitely hit or miss with Behringer. I had a 2442 that never
> gave me problems. I'm now running a 32 cheannel Eurorack that will
> consistently lock up if on for over eight hours. All it takes to
> address it is a power cycle but...QC seems to be elusive to them
>
> JH
>
> Aaron Allen wrote:
> > I've had quite good luck with both of my ADA8000 units. I bought one
> > thinking "cheap utility preamps" and liked it enough to pick up a second
> > one. I agree, Behr has some real serious quality control issues, but
> > generally if you get a good one, it's a good one. Not stellar, mind you,
but
> > I digress at this point. I had a 2442 mixer that was a flaming pile of
crap
> > on the other hand... muting channels would not only change whether I had
a
> > 60Hz hum or not, it would change the volume and pitch of it depending on
> > what channels saw the mute action. Avoid that mixer, IMO.
> >
> > AA
> >
> >
> > "cyrille" <portscan@wanadoo.fr> wrote in message news:42ee62c1@linux...
> >
> >>so
> >>
> >>the ad8000 is one of those exceptions from behri ?
> >>
> >>
> >>"Mike Audet" <mike@MikeF-SPAMAudet.com> a écrit dans le message de news:
> >>42ee4a3c$1@linux...
> >>
> >>>Hi DJ,
> >>>
> >>>Man, that really sucks having that kind of luck with Behringer gear
given
> >>>how much of a hassel it is for you to return it. And that fire is
> >>>scarry.
> >>> I make a special effort to never leave the house with my rack left on
> >>
> >>since
> >>
> >>>reading your post about that. I would feel the same way as you do if
I'd
> >>>had those expereiences.
> >>>
> >>>To a point, I agree that you usually get what you pay for. I have a
> >>
> >>Neumann
> >>
> >>>103, and I would never even think of using anything else on vocals.
It's
> >>>worth every penny. But, it comepletely sucks on accoustic guitar.
> >>>
> >>>The DP/4 was freakin expensive in its day, too. So, while a DP/2 is
now
> >>>a killer deal, it was high end stuff at the time.
> >>>
> >>>I should qualify my enthusiasm for the C3000. I had to mod it
slightly.
> >>> It comes with a built in pop filter, which is just a coating that is
> >>
> >>sprayed
> >>
> >>>on to the diaphragm. I peeled it off, and things opened up a lot.
> >>>
> >>>I live 30 minutes outside of Toronto, so I've got a much easier time
> >>
> >>returning
> >>
> >>>things that don't work or selling things I don't like. I just sold my
C1
> >>>and an MPX500 - good riddans to both. Anybody want to buy a PCM60?
> >>>
> >>>I feel that the gear industry takes advantage of people who are
learning
> >>>by hyping gear as necessary for a great sound when older, cheaper gear
> >>
> >>will
> >>
> >>>do just or almost as well. A while back, I decided not to spend any
more
> >>>money on gear unless I was 100% sure that the probelm was my gear and
not
> >>>how I was using it. My skills have improved immensly since then. I
> >>
> >>suspect
> >>
> >>>that you are actually past that and pushing beyond. We're probably
just
> >>>at different stages.
> >>>
> >>>Having said all that, I would love to check out the compressors in a
> >>>UAD1.
> >>> I just don't want to pay for them. :)
> >>>
> >>>All the best,
> >>>
> >>>Mike
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>"DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>>Hi Mike,
> >>>>
> >>>>Hi Mike,
> >>>>
> >>>>The Behringer units I have used are as follows:
> >>>>
> >>>>.........whatever the 8 channel headphone unit was called back in
> >>>>1998-caught on fire.
> >>>>
> >>>>............whatever the single RU line mixer was called in
1999-sounded
> >>>
> >>>so
> >>>
> >>>>bad I gave it away (and probably have a Karma debt to pay for this,
but
> >>>>hey........... the guy wanted it and I didn't charge him)
> >>>>
> >>>>The 8 channel fader thingie last month-the USB port was defective, but
> >>
> >>prior
> >>
> >>>>to it's demise, the combination of the Behringer driver and the
> >>>>defective
> >>>>port somehow managed to managed create some kind of evil code hit
which
> >>>
> >>>sent
> >>>
> >>>>the RME drivers in my Cubase DAW into shock, requiring the drivers be
> >>>>removed, removal of the hardware, reloading of everything.
> >>>>
> >>>>The Ultramatch Pro seems to be OK and hopefully I've finally found
> >>
> >>something
> >>
> >>>>by Behringer that works.
> >>>>
> >>>>I have no problem using inexpensive gear. I've got inexpensive Rode,
> >>
> >>Oktava
> >>
> >>>>and Studio projects mics that sound great. I also have a pair of RNC's
> >>
> >>that
> >>
> >>>>are very useful. Overall though, I've found that with few exceptions,
I
> >>>
> >>>tend
> >>>
> >>>>to get what I pay for as far as $$$ vs quality goes.
> >>>>
> >>>>I've got some Chinese SE Electronics mics here on loan right now that
> >>
> >>sound
> >>
> >>>>absolutely great........but they're not really super inexpensive
> >>>>(unfortunately). The Gemini is definitely in the big leagues. The
> >>>>verdict
> >>>
> >>>is
> >>>
> >>>>out on the Titan. I'm liking it on some stuff, not so much on other
> >>
> >>stuff,
> >>
> >>>>but this is the case with lots of high-end mics as well. The build
> >>
> >>quality
> >>
> >>>>on these is not cheap at all. They are much less expensive than some
of
> >>>
> >>>the
> >>>
> >>>>mics that they are being compared to so the bang for the buck factor
is
> >>>>pretty substantial.
> >>>>
> >>>>Not a gear snob......just been bitten a few times by Behringer. I have
> >>
> >>also
> >>
> >>>>heard great things about the Behringer 8000 unit.
> >>>>
> >>>>My problem here is that I live in a cave in the wilderness and have to
> >>>>trudge 10 miles barefooted through 20' of snow and fight off packs of
> >>>>ravenous wolves to get to my mailbox and I have to order everything
> >>
> >>online.
> >>
> >>>>There is no brick and mortar store that carries this stuff within 250
> >>
> >>miles
> >>
> >>>>of me so when I wait all week for a piece of gear that I need and it
> >>>>arrives, doesn't work properly and I have to spend lots of time
> >>>>troubleshooting it to determine why I can't just hook it up and expect
> >>>>it
> >>>
> >>>to
> >>>
> >>>>work, suddenly I've wasted lots of my time and so the money I've
saved,
> >>>>wasn't saved at all and I could have spent a little more and gotten
> >>>>something with good QC and some expectaion of reliability.
> >>>>
> >>>>;o)
> >>>>Deej
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>><Mike Audet mike....com> wrote in message news:42ee3836$1@linux...
> >>>>
> >>>>>Hi DJ,
> >>>>>
> >>>>>You have definitly had terrible experiences with Behringer stuff, but
> >>>
> >>>mine
> >>>
> >>>>>has been the opposite. I've had a Mic-502 dual mic pre for nearly 10
> >>>>
> >>>>years
> >>>>
> >>>>>without any trouble at all. I've had an original composer since they
> >>>
> >>>were
> >>>
> >>>>>first released - no trouble.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>I recently added an ADA8000 and one of their single rack space line
> >>
> >>mixers
> >>
> >>>>>- both no problem.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>I've done a whole bunch of live recording with the ADA8000 and the
> >>>>>line
> >>>>
> >>>>mixer
> >>>>
> >>>>>strapped to an ADAT, and the quality has been fabulous.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>There was a review of the ADA8000 in which someone strapped the
> >>>>>outputs
> >>>
> >>>to
> >>>
> >>>>>the inputs, crainked the gain to 100%, and then claimed that the
whole
> >>>>
> >>>>unit
> >>>>
> >>>>>was too noisy, among other things. In normal use for me, it has been
> >>>>
> >>>>perfect.
> >>>>
> >>>>> The mic pres sound really good - not all bright and tinny like Macky
> >>>
> >>>or
> >>>
> >>>>>Presonus pres, which I hate. The line inputs are so good that they
> >>>>
> >>>>actually
> >>>>
> >>>>>sound better with a guitar plugged directly into them than the DIs we
> >>>
> >>>had
> >>>
> >>>>>on stage. The thing rocks.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>It's kind of funny, but I've found as I get better at this recording
> >>
> >>gig,
> >>
> >>>>>I'm less obsessed with gear than I used to be. Not that gear lust
> >>
> >>can't
> >>
> >>>>>be fun or lead to a better end product, but I used to "chase a sound"
> >>>>
> >>>>thinking
> >>>>
> >>>>>that it was the gear that was 100% responsible. It clearly isn't.
> >>>>>The
> >>>>
> >>>>choice
> >>>>
> >>>>>of mic placement, eq use, reverb type, and compression settings are
> >>>>>the
> >>>>
> >>>>main
> >>>>
> >>>>>drivers of good sound. It's not that the gear doesn't matter, but
> >>>>>I've
> >>>>
> >>>>found
> >>>>
> >>>>>that if you use your ears instead of reading price tags, you get way
> >>>>
> >>>>better
> >>>>
> >>>>>results for way less money.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>Having said that, I'm moving towards using external, analog
> >>>>>compressors
> >>>>
> >>>>because
> >>>>
> >>>>>I'm just not satisfied with the DX stuff. But, I won't be buying any
> >>>>
> >>>>$2000
> >>>>
> >>>>>compressors or a UAD 1. The composer sounds awesome, and you can get
> >>>
> >>>used
> >>>
> >>>>>ones for $50. I've also heard that the old Alesis compressors can
> >>
> >>sound
> >>
> >>>>>really good if you replace the power supply with something that can
> >>>>
> >>>>actually
> >>>>
> >>>>>handle the unit.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>And, the DP4's "early reflections" algo sounds wonderful, too. I
have
> >>>
> >>>a
> >>>
> >>>>>lexicon MPX1, but I hardly ever use it. The DP4 gets used on
> >>
> >>everything.
> >>
> >>>>>The C3000 I bought 8 years ago is one of my favourite mics. It goes
> >>
> >>for
> >>
> >>>>>$150 used. Yes, it's a little noisy, and it needs more EQ than the
C1
> >>>
> >>>to
> >>>
> >>>>>work on acoustic guitar, but sounds 1000 times better than a C1 when
> >>
> >>you
> >>
> >>>>>know what to do with it.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>We are so lucky to live in a time when great stuff is dirt cheap.
Why
> >>>>
> >>>>fight
> >>>>
> >>>>>it?
> >>>>>
> >>>>>All the best,
> >>>>>Mike
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>"DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>I actually have had one out of 4 Behringer devices that I've used
> >>>>>>over
> >>>>
> >>>>the
> >>>>
> >>>>>>years that worked correctly or was sonically worth using in the
> >>
> >>studio.
> >>
> >>>>>It
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>is called an Ultramatch Pro and I'm using it as a D/A converter
right
> >>>>
> >>>>now.
> >>>>
> >>>>>>It says it does about 33822876 things. I don't know about that, but
> >>>>>>it
> >>>>>>definitely works as a D/A converter as long as it isn't locked to my
> >>>>
> >>>>house
> >>>>
> >>>>>>clock. Luckily it's locked to the AES output of my Mytek converter
> >>
> >>which
> >>
> >>>>>is
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>feeding clock to the rest of my studio so in this case, it's a happy
> >>>>>>accident. It doesn't do exactly what I want (I'd have to get two of
> >>
> >>them
> >>
> >>>>>to
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>actually accomplish something done the *normal* way), but it's an
> >>>>
> >>>>acceptable
> >>>>
> >>>>>>kludge for the moment. Maybe you'll get lucky. I will say
> >>>>
> >>>>this........their
> >>>>
> >>>>>>tech support personnel are all very nice folks. I probably spoke to
> >>
> >>all
> >>
> >>>>>of
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>them when my little fader control thingie went south and tried to
> >>>>>>take
> >>>
> >>>my
> >>>
> >>>>>>Cubase rig along with it.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>The D/A converter sounds good but I've got the Ultramatch Pro about
> >>>>>>as
> >>>>
> >>>>far
> >>>>
> >>>>>>from my listening position as I can get it, just in case it
explodes,
> >>>
> >>>or
> >>>
> >>>>>>something.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>the QC is absolutely awful from my experience, but if you get a
> >>>>>>*good*
> >>>>>>Behringer unit, you should be happy with it. I'd buy it from a brick
> >>>
> >>>and
> >>>
> >>>>>>mortar store so when you get it home and it doesn't work, you can
> >>>>>>take
> >>>
> >>>it
> >>>
> >>>>>>back and exchange it over and over again until you find one that
> >>>>>>works.........then add up the costs of your gasoline and time and
you
> >>>>
> >>>>could
> >>>>
> >>>>>>have bought a Lynx Aurora.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>Just a thought.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>;o)
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>"cyrille" <portscan@wanadoo.fr> wrote in message
> >>
> >>news:42ee0340$1@linux...
> >>
> >>>>>>>honestly i believe i will at least test with this one
> >>>>>>>alesis stuff in it right?
> >>>>>>>sometimes this brand doesn't make what they use to.
> >>>>>>>noisy stuff hey hey, with 12 bit drum machines and old analog i
> >>>>>>>HAVE
> >>>
> >>>TO
> >>>
> >>>>>>like
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>noise.
> >>>>>>>ill give it a try, even if ill have to repaint it in black to fit
> >>>>>>>in
> >>>>
> >>>>the
> >>>>
> >>>>>>>mec's/fx rack
> >>>>>>>is there anything just on the class above ?
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>"Mike Audet" <mike@MikeF-SPAMAudet.com> a écrit dans le message de
> >>>>
> >>>>news:
> >>>>
> >>>>>>>42ed8b25$1@linux...
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>Hi Cyrille,
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>Just get a Behringer ADA8000 and use it with your ADAT card for 8
> >>>
> >>>ins
> >>>
> >>>>>>and
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>8 outs. The outputs are a little noisy, but no where near as
> >>
> >>noisy
> >>
> >>>>>as a
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>>DP/4. You'll be very happy with it.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>All the best,
> >>>>>>>>Mike
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>"cyrille" <portscan@wanadoo.fr> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>3000$ ? for an aurora 16
> >>>>>>>>>oups
> >>>>>>>>>id rather find 2 8in + 1 8 out cards for such prices.... i aint
> >>>
> >>>a
> >>>
> >>>>pro
> >>>>
> >>>>>>who
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>can put so much on a converter.
> >>>>>>>>>it's just to use 2 dp4's as sends you know...in a home studio.
> >>>>>>>>>thx anyway for the advices, i now know one more stuff i can't
> >>>>>>>>>buy
> >>>>
> >>>>;-))
> >>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>"DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> a écrit dans le
> >>>>>>>>>message
> >>>
> >>>de
> >>>
> >>>>>>>news:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>42ec409b@linux...
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>I saw a review by Fletcher on the Aurora. He was A/B'iing it
> >>>>
> >>>>against
> >>>>
> >>>>>>a
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>Lavry
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>Blue. He said that it wasn't quite in the same ballpark but
> >>
> >>close.
> >>
> >>>>>>Then
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>he
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>hooked it up to an Apogee Big Ben and reported that it was
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>practically
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>indistinguishable from the Lavry.
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>........'course, buying an Aurora and a Big Ben would cost
> >>
> >>about
> >>
> >>>>>the
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>same
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>as
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>a Lavry.
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>;o)
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>"rick" <parnell68@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> >>>>>>>>>>news:j57oe15qilp2no13g1coqhljrhmrr19o47@4ax.com...
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>lynx aurora. i've got lynx two and the rme fw 800; the lynx
> >>>>
> >>>>(two)
> >>>>
> >>>>>>so
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>far is the closest to paris. i can only imagine what the
> >>
> >>aurora
> >>
> >>>>>>>>>>>sounds like.
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>On Sat, 30 Jul 2005 15:37:05 +0200, "cyrille"
> >>>>
> >>>><portscan@wanadoo.fr>
> >>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>hi all
> >>>>>>>>>>>>i'm looking for an 8 channel converters to add to my paris.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>i need something quite good, that doesn't decrease the
> >>
> >>overall
> >>
> >>>>>>sound
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>quality
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>of the rig.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>i saw frontier design tango 24
> >>>>>>>>>>>>seems quite cheap on s/h
> >>>>>>>>>>>>does any1 know this one or could recommend me something
> >>
> >>else?
> >>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>i could also trade the adat card for an 8i card.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>thx anyone who answers
> >>>>>>>>>>>>cyrille
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>
> >>
> >
> >Which would be what sort of thing, Don?

Chas

On Fri, 05 Aug 2005 17:02:59 -0800, DMorrell <don@toneworks.com>
wrote:

>Whoa. A Dimension D plug. Interesting....
>
>On Thu, 4 Aug 2005 23:54:16 -0300, "Rob Arsenault" <mani2@nbnet.nb.ca>
>wrote:
>
>>Guess us old ME or 98SE Paris users will have to jump to XP if we want to
>>use the new UAD-1 plugs. Kinda sucks but I guess we can't hold onto that
>>security blanket forever.....!!
>>
>>Rob_A
>>
>>http://www.uaudio.com/webzine/2005/august/index5.html
>>Hi Chas,

It's an old Roland chorus (rackmounted) with excellent stereo imaging.
Mine died a few years ago. Wow... like six... time flies! I had it
for a looooong time. It can be used subtly or obviously in a variety
of ways - to add some space or as an effect. Mainly used it on
guitars. This piece is not the same as the "Dimension ___ " stomp
box.

It will be interesting to hear UAD's emulation. I feel they did very
well with the plate.

Peace - Don

On Fri, 05 Aug 2005 23:13:56 -0700, Chas. Duncan
<duncan5199@SPAMLESSsbcglobal.net> wrote:

>
>Which would be what sort of thing, Don?
>
>Chas
>
>On Fri, 05 Aug 2005 17:02:59 -0800, DMorrell <don@toneworks.com>
>wrote:
>
>>Whoa. A Dimension D plug. Interesting....
>>
>>On Thu, 4 Aug 2005 23:54:16 -0300, "Rob Arsenault" <mani2@nbnet.nb.ca>
>>wrote:
>>
>>>Guess us old ME or 98SE Paris users will have to jump to XP if we want to
>>>use the new UAD-1 plugs. Kinda sucks but I guess we can't hold onto that
>>>security blanket forever.....!!
>>>
>>>Rob_A
>>>
>>>http://www.uaudio.com/webzine/2005/august/index5.html
>>>I have just read the book "HitMen: Power Brokers And Fast Money Inside The
Music Business "
http://www.musicroom.com/se/ID_No/045721/details.html

Kind of funny to be in the middle of that book when the 'Payola' Settlement
happened.
http://www.billboard.com/bb/biz/newsroom/legal_management/ar ticle_display.jsp?vnu_content_id=1000991014

Is this book concidered "the thruth" about the buisness or...?
Any netforums or something that discusses it?

best
--
Arvid Solvang
http://www.viagram.no/Thanks, Kim.
I wait with baited breath...


"Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>Kim,
>
>I still haven't had a chance to really take it through it's paces. I was
>meaning to get to it last weekend but ended up driving to Sydney to buy
a
>keyboard...
>
>That said, it's very quick and seems pretty stable. Paris still crashes
occassionally
>when switching projects, but my system was doing that before the new MB
and
>I haven't yet done a fresh install, so that's probably an existing problem
>not related to this hardware.
>
>If all goes according to plan I'll be re-installing everything this weekend
>and giving it a proper test if you care to wait. My guess is she's good
though.
>
>Cheers,
>Kim.
>
>"Kim W." <no@way.jose'> wrote:
>>
>>Hi, all.
>>I'm just about ready to give my quad EDS rig one last reprieve.
>>Is this mobo a contender? It seems we're on the cusp of workable vs. non-workable
>>PC architecture for the Paris hardware.
>>Thanks,
>>Kim
>>
>>
>>
>>
>The ADA8000 gets its clock from its optical in. There's no need for word
clock. You will have to set it as a slave.

All the best,

Mike



"cyrille" <portscan@wanadoo.fr> wrote:
>hi again
>one last question
>about the synchronisation
>how shouyld i synch the ada8000 to my mec ?
>does the adat card send out the synch ?
>or do i need a wordclock
>a mec send to an if442 already thru the bnc's
>
>does that mean :
>with the ada8000 as a slave
>1)i need a bnc wordclock cable from the if442 to the ada8000
>or
>2)an wordclock from mec to if442 and the otpical cables beetween the mec
and
>the ada8000 is a good solution.
>i just never wired anything through adat.
>
>thanks.
>
>"Jeff hoover" <jkhoover@excite.com> a écrit dans le message de news:
>42ef04bd@linux...
>> Aaron,
>>
>> It's definitely hit or miss with Behringer. I had a 2442 that never
>> gave me problems. I'm now running a 32 cheannel Eurorack that will
>> consistently lock up if on for over eight hours. All it takes to
>> address it is a power cycle but...QC seems to be elusive to them
>>
>> JH
>>
>> Aaron Allen wrote:
>> > I've had quite good luck with both of my ADA8000 units. I bought one
>> > thinking "cheap utility preamps" and liked it enough to pick up a second
>> > one. I agree, Behr has some real serious quality control issues, but
>> > generally if you get a good one, it's a good one. Not stellar, mind
you,
>but
>> > I digress at this point. I had a 2442 mixer that was a flaming pile
of
>crap
>> > on the other hand... muting channels would not only change whether I
had
>a
>> > 60Hz hum or not, it would change the volume and pitch of it depending
on
>> > what channels saw the mute action. Avoid that mixer, IMO.
>> >
>> > AA
>> >
>> >
>> > "cyrille" <portscan@wanadoo.fr> wrote in message news:42ee62c1@linux...
>> >
>> >>so
>> >>
>> >>the ad8000 is one of those exceptions from behri ?
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>"Mike Audet" <mike@MikeF-SPAMAudet.com> a écrit dans le message de news:
>> >>42ee4a3c$1@linux...
>> >>
>> >>>Hi DJ,
>> >>>
>> >>>Man, that really sucks having that kind of luck with Behringer gear
>given
>> >>>how much of a hassel it is for you to return it. And that fire is
>> >>>scarry.
>> >>> I make a special effort to never leave the house with my rack left
on
>> >>
>> >>since
>> >>
>> >>>reading your post about that. I would feel the same way as you do if
>I'd
>> >>>had those expereiences.
>> >>>
>> >>>To a point, I agree that you usually get what you pay for. I have
a
>> >>
>> >>Neumann
>> >>
>> >>>103, and I would never even think of using anything else on vocals.
>It's
>> >>>worth every penny. But, it comepletely sucks on accoustic guitar.
>> >>>
>> >>>The DP/4 was freakin expensive in its day, too. So, while a DP/2 is
>now
>> >>>a killer deal, it was high end stuff at the time.
>> >>>
>> >>>I should qualify my enthusiasm for the C3000. I had to mod it
>slightly.
>> >>> It comes with a built in pop filter, which is just a coating that
is
>> >>
>> >>sprayed
>> >>
>> >>>on to the diaphragm. I peeled it off, and things opened up a lot.
>> >>>
>> >>>I live 30 minutes outside of Toronto, so I've got a much easier time
>> >>
>> >>returning
>> >>
>> >>>things that don't work or selling things I don't like. I just sold
my
>C1
>> >>>and an MPX500 - good riddans to both. Anybody want to buy a PCM60?
>> >>>
>> >>>I feel that the gear industry takes advantage of people who are
>learning
>> >>>by hyping gear as necessary for a great sound when older, cheaper gear
>> >>
>> >>will
>> >>
>> >>>do just or almost as well. A while back, I decided not to spend any
>more
>> >>>money on gear unless I was 100% sure that the probelm was my gear and
>not
>> >>>how I was using it. My skills have improved immensly since then. I
>> >>
>> >>suspect
>> >>
>> >>>that you are actually past that and pushing beyond. We're probably
>just
>> >>>at different stages.
>> >>>
>> >>>Having said all that, I would love to check out the compressors in
a
>> >>>UAD1.
>> >>> I just don't want to pay for them. :)
>> >>>
>> >>>All the best,
>> >>>
>> >>>Mike
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>"DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>>>Hi Mike,
>> >>>>
>> >>>>Hi Mike,
>> >>>>
>> >>>>The Behringer units I have used are as follows:
>> >>>>
>> >>>>.........whatever the 8 channel headphone unit was called back in
>> >>>>1998-caught on fire.
>> >>>>
>> >>>>............whatever the single RU line mixer was called in
>1999-sounded
>> >>>
>> >>>so
>> >>>
>> >>>>bad I gave it away (and probably have a Karma debt to pay for this,
>but
>> >>>>hey........... the guy wanted it and I didn't charge him)
>> >>>>
>> >>>>The 8 channel fader thingie last month-the USB port was defective,
but
>> >>
>> >>prior
>> >>
>> >>>>to it's demise, the combination of the Behringer driver and the
>> >>>>defective
>> >>>>port somehow managed to managed create some kind of evil code hit
>which
>> >>>
>> >>>sent
>> >>>
>> >>>>the RME drivers in my Cubase DAW into shock, requiring the drivers
be
>> >>>>removed, removal of the hardware, reloading of everything.
>> >>>>
>> >>>>The Ultramatch Pro seems to be OK and hopefully I've finally found
>> >>
>> >>something
>> >>
>> >>>>by Behringer that works.
>> >>>>
>> >>>>I have no problem using inexpensive gear. I've got inexpensive Rode,
>> >>
>> >>Oktava
>> >>
>> >>>>and Studio projects mics that sound great. I also have a pair of RNC's
>> >>
>> >>that
>> >>
>> >>>>are very useful. Overall though, I've found that with few exceptions,
>I
>> >>>
>> >>>tend
>> >>>
>> >>>>to get what I pay for as far as $$$ vs quality goes.
>> >>>>
>> >>>>I've got some Chinese SE Electronics mics here on loan right now that
>> >>
>> >>sound
>> >>
>> >>>>absolutely great........but they're not really super inexpensive
>> >>>>(unfortunately). The Gemini is definitely in the big leagues. The
>> >>>>verdict
>> >>>
>> >>>is
>> >>>
>> >>>>out on the Titan. I'm liking it on some stuff, not so much on other
>> >>
>> >>stuff,
>> >>
>> >>>>but this is the case with lots of high-end mics as well. The build
>> >>
>> >>quality
>> >>
>> >>>>on these is not cheap at all. They are much less expensive than some
>of
>> >>>
>> >>>the
>> >>>
>> >>>>mics that they are being compared to so the bang for the buck factor
>is
>> >>>>pretty substantial.
>> >>>>
>> >>>>Not a gear snob......just been bitten a few times by Behringer. I
have
>> >>
>> >>also
>> >>
>> >>>>heard great things about the Behringer 8000 unit.
>> >>>>
>> >>>>My problem here is that I live in a cave in the wilderness and have
to
>> >>>>trudge 10 miles barefooted through 20' of snow and fight off packs
of
>> >>>>ravenous wolves to get to my mailbox and I have to order everything
>> >>
>> >>online.
>> >>
>> >>>>There is no brick and mortar store that carries this stuff within
250
>> >>
>> >>miles
>> >>
>> >>>>of me so when I wait all week for a piece of gear that I need and
it
>> >>>>arrives, doesn't work properly and I have to spend lots of time
>> >>>>troubleshooting it to determine why I can't just hook it up and expect
>> >>>>it
>> >>>
>> >>>to
>> >>>
>> >>>>work, suddenly I've wasted lots of my time and so the money I've
>saved,
>> >>>>wasn't saved at all and I could have spent a little more and gotten
>> >>>>something with good QC and some expectaion of reliability.
>> >>>>
>> >>>>;o)
>> >>>>Deej
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>><Mike Audet mike....com> wrote in message news:42ee3836$1@linux...
>> >>>>
>> >>>>>Hi DJ,
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>You have definitly had terrible experiences with Behringer stuff,
but
>> >>>
>> >>>mine
>> >>>
>> >>>>>has been the opposite. I've had a Mic-502 dual mic pre for nearly
10
>> >>>>
>> >>>>years
>> >>>>
>> >>>>>without any trouble at all. I've had an original composer since
they
>> >>>
>> >>>were
>> >>>
>> >>>>>first released - no trouble.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>I recently added an ADA8000 and one of their single rack space line
>> >>
>> >>mixers
>> >>
>> >>>>>- both no problem.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>I've done a whole bunch of live recording with the ADA8000 and the
>> >>>>>line
>> >>>>
>> >>>>mixer
>> >>>>
>> >>>>>strapped to an ADAT, and the quality has been fabulous.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>There was a review of the ADA8000 in which someone strapped the
>> >>>>>outputs
>> >>>
>> >>>to
>> >>>
>> >>>>>the inputs, crainked the gain to 100%, and then claimed that the
>whole
>> >>>>
>> >>>>unit
>> >>>>
>> >>>>>was too noisy, among other things. In normal use for me, it has
been
>> >>>>
>> >>>>perfect.
>> >>>>
>> >>>>> The mic pres sound really good - not all bright and tinny like Macky
>> >>>
>> >>>or
>> >>>
>> >>>>>Presonus pres, which I hate. The line inputs are so good that they
>> >>>>
>> >>>>actually
>> >>>>
>> >>>>>sound better with a guitar plugged directly into them than the DIs
we
>> >>>
>> >>>had
>> >>>
>> >>>>>on stage. The thing rocks.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>It's kind of funny, but I've found as I get better at this recording
>> >>
>> >>gig,
>> >>
>> >>>>>I'm less obsessed with gear than I used to be. Not that gear lust
>> >>
>> >>can't
>> >>
>> >>>>>be fun or lead to a better end product, but I used to "chase a sound"
>> >>>>
>> >>>>thinking
>> >>>>
>> >>>>>that it was the gear that was 100% responsible. It clearly isn't.
>> >>>>>The
>> >>>>
>> >>>>choice
>> >>>>
>> >>>>>of mic placement, eq use, reverb type, and compression settings are
>> >>>>>the
>> >>>>
>> >>>>main
>> >>>>
>> >>>>>drivers of good sound. It's not that the gear doesn't matter, but
>> >>>>>I've
>> >>>>
>> >>>>found
>> >>>>
>> >>>>>that if you use your ears instead of reading price tags, you get
way
>> >>>>
>> >>>>better
>> >>>>
>> >>>>>results for way less money.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>Having said that, I'm moving towards using external, analog
>> >>>>>compressors
>> >>>>
>> >>>>because
>> >>>>
>> >>>>>I'm just not satisfied with the DX stuff. But, I won't be buying
any
>> >>>>
>> >>>>$2000
>> >>>>
>> >>>>>compressors or a UAD 1. The composer sounds awesome, and you can
get
>> >>>
>> >>>used
>> >>>
>> >>>>>ones for $50. I've also heard that the old Alesis compressors can
>> >>
>> >>sound
>> >>
>> >>>>>really good if you replace the power supply with something that can
>> >>>>
>> >>>>actually
>> >>>>
>> >>>>>handle the unit.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>And, the DP4's "early reflections" algo sounds wonderful, too. I
>have
>> >>>
>> >>>a
>> >>>
>> >>>>>lexicon MPX1, but I hardly ever use it. The DP4 gets used on
>> >>
>> >>everything.
>> >>
>> >>>>>The C3000 I bought 8 years ago is one of my favourite mics. It goes
>> >>
>> >>for
>> >>
>> >>>>>$150 used. Yes, it's a little noisy, and it needs more EQ than the
>C1
>> >>>
>> >>>to
>> >>>
>> >>>>>work on acoustic guitar, but sounds 1000 times better than a C1 when
>> >>
>> >>you
>> >>
>> >>>>>know what to do with it.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>We are so lucky to live in a time when great stuff is dirt cheap.
>Why
>> >>>>
>> >>>>fight
>> >>>>
>> >>>>>it?
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>All the best,
>> >>>>>Mike
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>"DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote:
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>>I actually have had one out of 4 Behringer devices that I've used
>> >>>>>>over
>> >>>>
>> >>>>the
>> >>>>
>> >>>>>>years that worked correctly or was sonically worth using in the
>> >>
>> >>studio.
>> >>
>> >>>>>It
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>>is called an Ultramatch Pro and I'm using it as a D/A converter
>right
>> >>>>
>> >>>>now.
>> >>>>
>> >>>>>>It says it does about 33822876 things. I don't know about that,
but
>> >>>>>>it
>> >>>>>>definitely works as a D/A converter as long as it isn't locked to
my
>> >>>>
>> >>>>house
>> >>>>
>> >>>>>>clock. Luckily it's locked to the AES output of my Mytek converter
>> >>
>> >>which
>> >>
>> >>>>>is
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>>feeding clock to the rest of my studio so in this case, it's a happy
>> >>>>>>accident. It doesn't do exactly what I want (I'd have to get two
of
>> >>
>> >>them
>> >>
>> >>>>>to
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>>actually accomplish something done the *normal* way), but it's an
>> >>>>
>> >>>>acceptable
>> >>>>
>> >>>>>>kludge for the moment. Maybe you'll get lucky. I will say
>> >>>>
>> >>>>this........their
>> >>>>
>> >>>>>>tech support personnel are all very nice folks. I probably spoke
to
>> >>
>> >>all
>> >>
>> >>>>>of
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>>them when my little fader control thingie went south and tried to
>> >>>>>>take
>> >>>
>> >>>my
>> >>>
>> >>>>>>Cubase rig along with it.
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>The D/A converter sounds good but I've got the Ultramatch Pro about
>> >>>>>>as
>> >>>>
>> >>>>far
>> >>>>
>> >>>>>>from my listening position as I can get it, just in case it
>explodes,
>> >>>
>> >>>or
>> >>>
>> >>>>>>something.
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>the QC is absolutely awful from my experience, but if you get a
>> >>>>>>*good*
>> >>>>>>Behringer unit, you should be happy with it. I'd buy it from a brick
>> >>>
>> >>>and
>> >>>
>> >>>>>>mortar store so when you get it home and it doesn't work, you can
>> >>>>>>take
>> >>>
>> >>>it
>> >>>
>> >>>>>>back and exchange it over and over again until you find one that
>> >>>>>>works.........then add up the costs of your gasoline and time and
>you
>> >>>>
>> >>>>could
>> >>>>
>> >>>>>>have bought a Lynx Aurora.
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>Just a thought.
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>;o)
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>"cyrille" <portscan@wanadoo.fr> wrote in message
>> >>
>> >>news:42ee0340$1@linux...
>> >>
>> >>>>>>>honestly i believe i will at least test with this one
>> >>>>>>>alesis stuff in it right?
>> >>>>>>>sometimes this brand doesn't make what they use to.
>> >>>>>>>noisy stuff hey hey, with 12 bit drum machines and old analog i
>> >>>>>>>HAVE
>> >>>
>> >>>TO
>> >>>
>> >>>>>>like
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>noise.
>> >>>>>>>ill give it a try, even if ill have to repaint it in black to fit
>> >>>>>>>in
>> >>>>
>> >>>>the
>> >>>>
>> >>>>>>>mec's/fx rack
>> >>>>>>>is there anything just on the class above ?
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>"Mike Audet" <mike@MikeF-SPAMAudet.com> a écrit dans le message
de
>> >>>>
>> >>>>news:
>> >>>>
>> >>>>>>>42ed8b25$1@linux...
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>Hi Cyrille,
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>Just get a Behringer ADA8000 and use it with your ADAT card for
8
>> >>>
>> >>>ins
>> >>>
>> >>>>>>and
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>8 outs. The outputs are a little noisy, but no where near as
>> >>
>> >>noisy
>> >>
>> >>>>>as a
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>DP/4. You'll be very happy with it.
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>All the best,
>> >>>>>>>>Mike
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>"cyrille" <portscan@wanadoo.fr> wrote:
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>3000$ ? for an aurora 16
>> >>>>>>>>>oups
>> >>>>>>>>>id rather find 2 8in + 1 8 out cards for such prices.... i aint
>> >>>
>> >>>a
>> >>>
>> >>>>pro
>> >>>>
>> >>>>>>who
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>can put so much on a converter.
>> >>>>>>>>>it's just to use 2 dp4's as sends you know...in a home studio.
>> >>>>>>>>>thx anyway for the advices, i now know one more stuff i can't
>> >>>>>>>>>buy
>> >>>>
>> >>>>;-))
>> >>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>"DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> a écrit dans le
>> >>>>>>>>>message
>> >>>
>> >>>de
>> >>>
>> >>>>>>>news:
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>42ec409b@linux...
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>I saw a review by Fletcher on the Aurora. He was A/B'iing it
>> >>>>
>> >>>>against
>> >>>>
>> >>>>>>a
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>Lavry
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>Blue. He said that it wasn't quite in the same ballpark but
>> >>
>> >>close.
>> >>
>> >>>>>>Then
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>he
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>hooked it up to an Apogee Big Ben and reported that it was
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>practically
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>indistinguishable from the Lavry.
>> >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>........'course, buying an Aurora and a Big Ben would cost
>> >>
>> >>about
>> >>
>> >>>>>the
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>>>same
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>as
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>a Lavry.
>> >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>;o)
>> >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>"rick" <parnell68@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>> >>>>>>>>>>news:j57oe15qilp2no13g1coqhljrhmrr19o47@4ax.com...
>> >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>lynx aurora. i've got lynx two and the rme fw 800; the lynx
>> >>>>
>> >>>>(two)
>> >>>>
>> >>>>>>so
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>far is the closest to paris. i can only imagine what the
>> >>
>> >>aurora
>> >>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>sounds like.
>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>On Sat, 30 Jul 2005 15:37:05 +0200, "cyrille"
>> >>>>
>> >>>><portscan@wanadoo.fr>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>wrote:
>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>hi all
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>i'm looking for an 8 channel converters to add to my paris.
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>i need something quite good, that doesn't decrease the
>> >>
>> >>overall
>> >>
>> >>>>>>sound
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>quality
>> >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>of the rig.
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>i saw frontier design tango 24
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>seems quite cheap on s/h
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>does any1 know this one or could recommend me something
>> >>
>> >>else?
>> >>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>i could also trade the adat card for an 8i card.
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>thx anyone who answers
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>cyrille
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>
>great
thanks

"Mike Audet" <mike@....com> a écrit dans le message de news:
42f4b8d4@linux...
>
> The ADA8000 gets its clock from its optical in. There's no need for word
> clock. You will have to set it as a slave.
>
> All the best,
>
> Mike
>
>
>
> "cyrille" <portscan@wanadoo.fr> wrote:
> >hi again
> >one last question
> >about the synchronisation
> >how shouyld i synch the ada8000 to my mec ?
> >does the adat card send out the synch ?
> >or do i need a wordclock
> >a mec send to an if442 already thru the bnc's
> >
> >does that mean :
> >with the ada8000 as a slave
> >1)i need a bnc wordclock cable from the if442 to the ada8000
> >or
> >2)an wordclock from mec to if442 and the otpical cables beetween the mec
> and
> >the ada8000 is a good solution.
> >i just never wired anything through adat.
> >
> >thanks.
> >
> >"Jeff hoover" <jkhoover@excite.com> a écrit dans le message de news:
> >42ef04bd@linux...
> >> Aaron,
> >>
> >> It's definitely hit or miss with Behringer. I had a 2442 that never
> >> gave me problems. I'm now running a 32 cheannel Eurorack that will
> >> consistently lock up if on for over eight hours. All it takes to
> >> address it is a power cycle but...QC seems to be elusive to them
> >>
> >> JH
> >>
> >> Aaron Allen wrote:
> >> > I've had quite good luck with both of my ADA8000 units. I bought one
> >> > thinking "cheap utility preamps" and liked it enough to pick up a
second
> >> > one. I agree, Behr has some real serious quality control issues, but
> >> > generally if you get a good one, it's a good one. Not stellar, mind
> you,
> >but
> >> > I digress at this point. I had a 2442 mixer that was a flaming pile
> of
> >crap
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> >> > on the other hand... muting channels would not only change whether I
> had
> >a
> >> > 60Hz hum or not, it would change the volume and pitch of it depending
> on
> >> > what channels saw the mute action. Avoid that mixer, IMO.
> >> >
> >> > AA
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > "cyrille" <portscan@wanadoo.fr> wrote in message
news:42ee62c1@linux...
> >> >
> >> >>so
> >> >>
> >> >>the ad8000 is one of those exceptions from behri ?
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>"Mike Audet" <mike@MikeF-SPAMAudet.com> a écrit dans le message de
news:
> >> >>42ee4a3c$1@linux...
> >> >>
> >> >>>Hi DJ,
> >> >>>
> >> >>>Man, that really sucks having that kind of luck with Behringer gear
> >given
> >> >>>how much of a hassel it is for you to return it. And that fire is
> >> >>>scarry.
> >> >>> I make a special effort to never leave the house with my rack left
> on
> >> >>
> >> >>since
> >> >>
> >> >>>reading your post about that. I would feel the same way as you do if
> >I'd
> >> >>>had those expereiences.
> >> >>>
> >> >>>To a point, I agree that you usually get what you pay for. I have
> a
> >> >>
> >> >>Neumann
> >> >>
> >> >>>103, and I would never even think of using anything else on vocals.
> >It's
> >> >>>worth every penny. But, it comepletely sucks on accoustic guitar.
> >> >>>
> >> >>>The DP/4 was freakin expensive in its day, too. So, while a DP/2 is
> >now
> >> >>>a killer deal, it was high end stuff at the time.
> >> >>>
> >> >>>I should qualify my enthusiasm for the C3000. I had to mod it
> >slightly.
> >> >>> It comes with a built in pop filter, which is just a coating that
> is
> >> >>
> >> >>sprayed
> >> >>
> >> >>>on to the diaphragm. I peeled it off, and things opened up a lot.
> >> >>>
> >> >>>I live 30 minutes outside of Toronto, so I've got a much easier time
> >> >>
> >> >>returning
> >> >>
> >> >>>things that don't work or selling things I don't like. I just sold
> my
> >C1
> >> >>>and an MPX500 - good riddans to both. Anybody want to buy a PCM60?
> >> >>>
> >> >>>I feel that the gear industry takes advantage of people who are
> >learning
> >> >>>by hyping gear as necessary for a great sound when older, cheaper
gear
> >> >>
> >> >>will
> >> >>
> >> >>>do just or almost as well. A while back, I decided not to spend any
> >more
> >> >>>money on gear unless I was 100% sure that the probelm was my gear
and
> >not
> >> >>>how I was using it. My skills have improved immensly since then. I
> >> >>
> >> >>suspect
> >> >>
> >> >>>that you are actually past that and pushing beyond. We're probably
> >just
> >> >>>at different stages.
> >> >>>
> >> >>>Having said all that, I would love to check out the compressors in
> a
> >> >>>UAD1.
> >> >>> I just don't want to pay for them. :)
> >> >>>
> >> >>>All the best,
> >> >>>
> >> >>>Mike
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>>"DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote:
> >> >>>
> >> >>>>Hi Mike,
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>Hi Mike,
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>The Behringer units I have used are as follows:
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>.........whatever the 8 channel headphone unit was called back in
> >> >>>>1998-caught on fire.
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>............whatever the single RU line mixer was called in
> >1999-sounded
> >> >>>
> >> >>>so
> >> >>>
> >> >>>>bad I gave it away (and probably have a Karma debt to pay for this,
> >but
> >> >>>>hey........... the guy wanted it and I didn't charge him)
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>The 8 channel fader thingie last month-the USB port was defective,
> but
> >> >>
> >> >>prior
> >> >>
> >> >>>>to it's demise, the combination of the Behringer driver and the
> >> >>>>defective
> >> >>>>port somehow managed to managed create some kind of evil code hit
> >which
> >> >>>
> >> >>>sent
> >> >>>
> >> >>>>the RME drivers in my Cubase DAW into shock, requiring the drivers
> be
> >> >>>>removed, removal of the hardware, reloading of everything.
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>The Ultramatch Pro seems to be OK and hopefully I've finally found
> >> >>
> >> >>something
> >> >>
> >> >>>>by Behringer that works.
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>I have no problem using inexpensive gear. I've got inexpensive
Rode,
> >> >>
> >> >>Oktava
> >> >>
> >> >>>>and Studio projects mics that sound great. I also have a pair of
RNC's
> >> >>
> >> >>that
> >> >>
> >> >>>>are very useful. Overall though, I've found that with few
exceptions,
> >I
> >> >>>
> >> >>>tend
> >> >>>
> >> >>>>to get what I pay for as far as $$$ vs quality goes.
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>I've got some Chinese SE Electronics mics here on loan right now
that
> >> >>
> >> >>sound
> >> >>
> >> >>>>absolutely great........but they're not really super inexpensive
> >> >>>>(unfortunately). The Gemini is definitely in the big leagues. The
> >> >>>>verdict
> >> >>>
> >> >>>is
> >> >>>
> >> >>>>out on the Titan. I'm liking it on some stuff, not so much on other
> >> >>
> >> >>stuff,
> >> >>
> >> >>>>but this is the case with lots of high-end mics as well. The build
> >> >>
> >> >>quality
> >> >>
> >> >>>>on these is not cheap at all. They are much less expensive than
some
> >of
> >> >>>
> >> >>>the
> >> >>>
> >> >>>>mics that they are being compared to so the bang for the buck
factor
> >is
> >> >>>>pretty substantial.
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>Not a gear snob......just been bitten a few times by Behringer. I
> have
> >> >>
> >> >>also
> >> >>
> >> >>>>heard great things about the Behringer 8000 unit.
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>My problem here is that I live in a cave in the wilderness and have
> to
> >> >>>>trudge 10 miles barefooted through 20' of snow and fight off packs
> of
> >> >>>>ravenous wolves to get to my mailbox and I have to order everything
> >> >>
> >> >>online.
> >> >>
> >> >>>>There is no brick and mortar store that carries this stuff within
> 250
> >> >>
> >> >>miles
> >> >>
> >> >>>>of me so when I wait all week for a piece of gear that I need and
> it
> >> >>>>arrives, doesn't work properly and I have to spend lots of time
> >> >>>>troubleshooting it to determine why I can't just hook it up and
expect
> >> >>>>it
> >> >>>
> >> >>>to
> >> >>>
> >> >>>>work, suddenly I've wasted lots of my time and so the money I've
> >saved,
> >> >>>>wasn't saved at all and I could have spent a little more and gotten
> >> >>>>something with good QC and some expectaion of reliability.
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>;o)
> >> >>>>Deej
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>><Mike Audet mike....com> wrote in message news:42ee3836$1@linux...
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>>Hi DJ,
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>>You have definitly had terrible experiences with Behringer stuff,
> but
> >> >>>
> >> >>>mine
> >> >>>
> >> >>>>>has been the opposite. I've had a Mic-502 dual mic pre for nearly
> 10
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>years
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>>without any trouble at all. I've had an original composer since
> they
> >> >>>
> >> >>>were
> >> >>>
> >> >>>>>first released - no trouble.
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>>I recently added an ADA8000 and one of their single rack space
line
> >> >>
> >> >>mixers
> >> >>
> >> >>>>>- both no problem.
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>>I've done a whole bunch of live recording with the ADA8000 and the
> >> >>>>>line
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>mixer
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>>strapped to an ADAT, and the quality has been fabulous.
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>>There was a review of the ADA8000 in which someone strapped the
> >> >>>>>outputs
> >> >>>
> >> >>>to
> >> >>>
> >> >>>>>the inputs, crainked the gain to 100%, and then claimed that the
> >whole
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>unit
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>>was too noisy, among other things. In normal use for me, it has
> been
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>perfect.
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>> The mic pres sound really good - not all bright and tinny like
Macky
> >> >>>
> >> >>>or
> >> >>>
> >> >>>>>Presonus pres, which I hate. The line inputs are so good that
they
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>actually
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>>sound better with a guitar plugged directly into them than the DIs
> we
> >> >>>
> >> >>>had
> >> >>>
> >> >>>>>on stage. The thing rocks.
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>>It's kind of funny, but I've found as I get better at this
recording
> >> >>
> >> >>gig,
> >> >>
> >> >>>>>I'm less obsessed with gear than I used to be. Not that gear lust
> >> >>
> >> >>can't
> >> >>
> >> >>>>>be fun or lead to a better end product, but I used to "chase a
sound"
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>thinking
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>>that it was the gear that was 100% responsible. It clearly isn't.
> >> >>>>>The
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>choice
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>>of mic placement, eq use, reverb type, and compression settings
are
> >> >>>>>the
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>main
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>>drivers of good sound. It's not that the gear doesn't matter, but
> >> >>>>>I've
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>found
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>>that if you use your ears instead of reading price tags, you get
> way
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>better
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>>results for way less money.
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>>Having said that, I'm moving towards using external, analog
> >> >>>>>compressors
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>because
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>>I'm just not satisfied with the DX stuff. But, I won't be buying
> any
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>$2000
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>>compressors or a UAD 1. The composer sounds awesome, and you can
> get
> >> >>>
> >> >>>used
> >> >>>
> >> >>>>>ones for $50. I've also heard that the old Alesis compressors can
> >> >>
> >> >>sound
> >> >>
> >> >>>>>really good if you replace the power supply with something that
can
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>actually
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>>handle the unit.
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>>And, the DP4's "early reflections" algo sounds wonderful, too. I
> >have
> >> >>>
> >> >>>a
> >> >>>
> >> >>>>>lexicon MPX1, but I hardly ever use it. The DP4 gets used on
> >> >>
> >> >>everything.
> >> >>
> >> >>>>>The C3000 I bought 8 years ago is one of my favourite mics. It
goes
> >> >>
> >> >>for
> >> >>
> >> >>>>>$150 used. Yes, it's a little noisy, and it needs more EQ than
the
> >C1
> >> >>>
> >> >>>to
> >> >>>
> >> >>>>>work on acoustic guitar, but sounds 1000 times better than a C1
when
> >> >>
> >> >>you
> >> >>
> >> >>>>>know what to do with it.
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>>We are so lucky to live in a time when great stuff is dirt cheap.
> >Why
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>fight
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>>it?
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>>All the best,
> >> >>>>>Mike
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>>"DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote:
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>>>I actually have had one out of 4 Behringer devices that I've used
> >> >>>>>>over
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>the
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>>>years that worked correctly or was sonically worth using in the
> >> >>
> >> >>studio.
> >> >>
> >> >>>>>It
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>>>is called an Ultramatch Pro and I'm using it as a D/A converter
> >right
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>now.
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>>>It says it does about 33822876 things. I don't know about that,
> but
> >> >>>>>>it
> >> >>>>>>definitely works as a D/A converter as long as it isn't locked to
> my
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>house
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>>>clock. Luckily it's locked to the AES output of my Mytek
converter
> >> >>
> >> >>which
> >> >>
> >> >>>>>is
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>>>feeding clock to the rest of my studio so in this case, it's a
happy
> >> >>>>>>accident. It doesn't do exactly what I want (I'd have to get two
> of
> >> >>
> >> >>them
> >> >>
> >> >>>>>to
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>>>actually accomplish something done the *normal* way), but it's an
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>acceptable
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>>>kludge for the moment. Maybe you'll get lucky. I will say
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>this........their
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>>>tech support personnel are all very nice folks. I probably spoke
> to
> >> >>
> >> >>all
> >> >>
> >> >>>>>of
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>>>them when my little fader control thingie went south and tried to
> >> >>>>>>take
> >> >>>
> >> >>>my
> >> >>>
> >> >>>>>>Cubase rig along with it.
> >> >>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>The D/A converter sounds good but I've got the Ultramatch Pro
about
> >> >>>>>>as
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>far
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>>>from my listening position as I can get it, just in case it
> >explodes,
> >> >>>
> >> >>>or
> >> >>>
> >> >>>>>>something.
> >> >>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>the QC is absolutely awful from my experience, but if you get a
> >> >>>>>>*good*
> >> >>>>>>Behringer unit, you should be happy with it. I'd buy it from a
brick
> >> >>>
> >> >>>and
> >> >>>
> >> >>>>>>mortar store so when you get it home and it doesn't work, you can
> >> >>>>>>take
> >> >>>
> >> >>>it
> >> >>>
> >> >>>>>>back and exchange it over and over again until you find one that
> >> >>>>>>works.........then add up the costs of your gasoline and time and
> >you
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>could
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>>>have bought a Lynx Aurora.
> >> >>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>Just a thought.
> >> >>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>;o)
> >> >>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>"cyrille" <portscan@wanadoo.fr> wrote in message
> >> >>
> >> >>news:42ee0340$1@linux...
> >> >>
> >> >>>>>>>honestly i believe i will at least test with this one
> >> >>>>>>>alesis stuff in it right?
> >> >>>>>>>sometimes this brand doesn't make what they use to.
> >> >>>>>>>noisy stuff hey hey, with 12 bit drum machines and old analog i
> >> >>>>>>>HAVE
> >> >>>
> >> >>>TO
> >> >>>
> >> >>>>>>like
> >> >>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>noise.
> >> >>>>>>>ill give it a try, even if ill have to repaint it in black to
fit
> >> >>>>>>>in
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>the
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>>>>mec's/fx rack
> >> >>>>>>>is there anything just on the class above ?
> >> >>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>"Mike Audet" <mike@MikeF-SPAMAudet.com> a écrit dans le message
> de
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>news:
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>>>>42ed8b25$1@linux...
> >> >>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>Hi Cyrille,
> >> >>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>Just get a Behringer ADA8000 and use it with your ADAT card for
> 8
> >> >>>
> >> >>>ins
> >> >>>
> >> >>>>>>and
> >> >>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>8 outs. The outputs are a little noisy, but no where near as
> >> >>
> >> >>noisy
> >> >>
> >> >>>>>as a
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>DP/4. You'll be very happy with it.
> >> >>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>All the best,
> >> >>>>>>>>Mike
> >> >>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>"cyrille" <portscan@wanadoo.fr> wrote:
> >> >>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>3000$ ? for an aurora 16
> >> >>>>>>>>>oups
> >> >>>>>>>>>id rather find 2 8in + 1 8 out cards for such prices.... i
aint
> >> >>>
> >> >>>a
> >> >>>
> >> >>>>pro
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>>>who
> >> >>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>can put so much on a converter.
> >> >>>>>>>>>it's just to use 2 dp4's as sends you know...in a home studio.
> >> >>>>>>>>>thx anyway for the advices, i now know one more stuff i can't
> >> >>>>>>>>>buy
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>;-))
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>"DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net
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> a écrit dans le
> >> >>>>>>>>>message
> >> >>>
> >> >>>de
> >> >>>
> >> >>>>>>>news:
> >> >>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>42ec409b@linux...
> >> >>>>>>>>>
&
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gt; >> >>>>>>>>>>I saw a review by Fletcher on the Aurora. He was A/B'iing it
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>against
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>>>a
> >> >>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>Lavry
> >> >>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>>Blue. He said that it wasn't quite in the same ballpark but
> >> >>
> >> >>close.
> >> >>
> >> >>>>>>Then
> >> >>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>he
> >> >>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>>hooked it up to an Apogee Big Ben and reported that it was
> >> >>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>practically
> >> >>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>>indistinguishable from the Lavry.
> >> >>>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>>........'course, buying an Aurora and a Big Ben would cost
> >> >>
> >> >>about
> >> >>
> >> >>>>>the
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>same
> >> >>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>as
> >> >>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>>a Lavry.
> >> >>>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>>;o)
> >> >>>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>>"rick" <parnell68@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> >> >>>>>>>>>>news:j57oe15qilp2no13g1coqhljrhmrr19o47@4ax.com...
> >> >>>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>lynx aurora. i've got lynx two and the rme fw 800; the lynx
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>(two)
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>>>so
> >> >>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>far is the closest to paris. i can only imagine what the
> >> >>
> >> >>aurora
> >> >>
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>sounds like.
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>On Sat, 30 Jul 2005 15:37:05 +0200, "cyrille"
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>><portscan@wanadoo.fr>
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>wrote:
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>hi all
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>i'm looking for an 8 channel converters to add to my paris.
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>i need something quite good, that doesn't decrease the
> >> >>
> >> >>overall
> >> >>
> >> >>>>>>sound
> >> >>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>>quality
> >> >>>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>of the rig.
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>i saw frontier design tango 24
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>seems quite cheap on s/h
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>does any1 know this one or could recommend me something
> >> >>
> >> >>else?
> >> >>
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>i could also trade the adat card for an 8i card.
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>thx anyone who answers
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>cyrille
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>
> >> >>>>
> >> >>
> >> >
> >> >
> >
> >
>Congrats, Pardner!

El Miguel


"DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote in message
news:42f242d5$1@linux...
> These guys are ***really*** good musicians.
>
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/telemarkskier/sets/341359/
>
> Benny is an old friend and did the demo's here a couple of years ago that
> were used in the production of a CD called Old Hands by the Yonder
Mountain
> String Band for which he wrote many of the songs.
>
> The other players on this project are members of the Broke Mountain
> Bluegrass band. I did a demo session for them back in 2003 which opened up
> some doors for them on the Bluegrass festival circuit. They have now split
> up but have bought in a new guitarist named John Stigley who is nothing
> short of unbelievable. I've got him set up on a mic here in the control
room
> and last night I could have sworn I was listening to Tony Rice playing.
>
> It's really a pleasure dealing with this bunch. Real pro's.........and
real
> good.
>
> ;o)
>
>"uptown jimmy" <johnson314@bellsouth.net> wrote:
>I've got a buddy looking for an EDS card, if anyone is selling....
>
>Jimmy
>
>Hi,
I heave 1 EDS card, buth i leave in Holland.
Is that a problem for you?
>I read that book about ten years ago. That is 100% truth, at least for that
time.
Rod
"Arvid Solvang" <arvid@solvang.net> wrote:
>I have just read the book "HitMen: Power Brokers And Fast Money Inside The

>Music Business "
>http://www.musicroom.com/se/ID_No/045721/details.html
>
>Kind of funny to be in the middle of that book when the 'Payola' Settlement

>happened.
> http://www.billboard.com/bb/biz/newsroom/legal_management/ar ticle_display.jsp?vnu_content_id=1000991014
>
>Is this book concidered "the thruth" about the buisness or...?
>Any netforums or something that discusses it?
>
>best
>--
>Arvid Solvang
>http://www.viagram.no/
>
>ain't it the truth. those doggies make me melt

rick wrote:
> oooooh you're such a softie ol'e man.
>
> On Thu, 04 Aug 2005 07:28:51 +0000, John <no@no.com> wrote:
>
>
>>I want to introduce our 2 newest roadies, Daisy the Corgi and Bonnie the
>>Lab. Both have already provided a lot of fun and challenge. I hope to
>>get back to Paris soooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooon but for now
>>I'm baby sitter.
>>
>>http://tinyurl.com/c2ouu
>>
>>http://tinyurl.com/e4bo7
>
>working for me also. firewall snafu, I'd wager
rod
"Larry Hogan" <ooglybong@nycap.rr.nospam.com> wrote:
>
>Craig Mitchell <camitchell@cfl.rr.com> wrote:
>>
>>I tried www.myparispro.com today and it was password protected.
>>any reason for this?
>>
>>Craig
>
>
>Hi,
>
>I just checked at **http://www.myparispro.com/** out of curiosity, and it
>showed up fine.
>
>Larry HoganThanks Don. Haven't run across that box -- sounds like a fun toy. I
tend to like UA's design approach in general, so I'll be keeping an
eye out for this one...

-- Chas


On Fri, 05 Aug 2005 23:18:15 -0800, DMorrell <don@toneworks.com>
wrote:

>Hi Chas,
>
>It's an old Roland chorus (rackmounted) with excellent stereo imaging.
>Mine died a few years ago. Wow... like six... time flies! I had it
>for a looooong time. It can be used subtly or obviously in a variety
>of ways - to add some space or as an effect. Mainly used it on
>guitars. This piece is not the same as the "Dimension ___ " stomp
>box.
>
>It will be interesting to hear UAD's emulation. I feel they did very
>well with the plate.
>
>Peace - Don
>
>On Fri, 05 Aug 2005 23:13:56 -0700, Chas. Duncan
><duncan5199@SPAMLESSsbcglobal.net> wrote:
>
>>
>>Which would be what sort of thing, Don?
>>
>>Chas
>>
>>On Fri, 05 Aug 2005 17:02:59 -0800, DMorrell <don@toneworks.com>
>>wrote:
>>
>>>Whoa. A Dimension D plug. Interesting....
>>>
>>>On Thu, 4 Aug 2005 23:54:16 -0300, "Rob Arsenault" <mani2@nbnet.nb.ca>
>>>wrote:
>>>
>>>>Guess us old ME or 98SE Paris users will have to jump to XP if we want to
>>>>use the new UAD-1 plugs. Kinda sucks but I guess we can't hold onto that
>>>>security blanket forever.....!!
>>>>
>>>>Rob_A
>>>>
>>>>http://www.uaudio.com/webzine/2005/august/index5.html
>>>>Damn they cute.

On another note, I saw a bunch of LOST Doberman posters today... man that
would take lifes little problems to a whole new level...

"John" <no@no.com> wrote in message news:42f4e984@linux...
> ain't it the truth. those doggies make me melt
>
> rick wrote:
>> oooooh you're such a softie ol'e man.
>>
>> On Thu, 04 Aug 2005 07:28:51 +0000, John <no@no.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>I want to introduce our 2 newest roadies, Daisy the Corgi and Bonnie the
>>>Lab. Both have already provided a lot of fun and challenge. I hope to
>>>get back to Paris soooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooon but for now
>>>I'm baby sitter.
>>>
>>>http://tinyurl.com/c2ouu
>>>
>>>http://tinyurl.com/e4bo7
>>Hmmmmm............I'm getting ready to install my 4th UAD-1 card. I get a
credit toward other plugins so I could probably get this for just about
free.. I'm just wondering if it's worth it. I got a questionnaire from UA
the other day asking about hat users would want and the LA-3A was on that
list. I may hold out for that.

Deej

"DMorrell" <don@toneworks.com> wrote in message
news:clo8f1pgg8jpt3aeanvmj2dmos8enatohq@4ax.com...
> Hi Chas,
>
> It's an old Roland chorus (rackmounted) with excellent stereo imaging.
> Mine died a few years ago. Wow... like six... time flies! I had it
> for a looooong time. It can be used subtly or obviously in a variety
> of ways - to add some space or as an effect. Mainly used it on
> guitars. This piece is not the same as the "Dimension ___ " stomp
> box.
>
> It will be interesting to hear UAD's emulation. I feel they did very
> well with the plate.
>
> Peace - Don
>
> On Fri, 05 Aug 2005 23:13:56 -0700, Chas. Duncan
> <duncan5199@SPAMLESSsbcglobal.net> wrote:
>
> >
> >Which would be what sort of thing, Don?
> >
> >Chas
> >
> >On Fri, 05 Aug 2005 17:02:59 -0800, DMorrell <don@toneworks.com>
> >wrote:
> >
> >>Whoa. A Dimension D plug. Interesting....
> >>
> >>On Thu, 4 Aug 2005 23:54:16 -0300, "Rob Arsenault" <mani2@nbnet.nb.ca>
> >>wrote:
> >>
> >>>Guess us old ME or 98SE Paris users will have to jump to XP if we want
to
> >>>use the new UAD-1 plugs. Kinda sucks but I guess we can't hold onto
that
> >>>security blanket forever.....!!
> >>>
> >>>Rob_A
> >>>
> >>>http://www.uaudio.com/webzine/2005/august/index5.html
> >>>
>I haven't checked in since October! - I got fired, moved, lost a drummer,
wife & I had a baby girl (well, she did all the work) got a new job, got a
new drummer...Paris has been collecting dust until now.

Wow, lots o' intersting stuff going on here:
-saw the letter to ID...very cool, wish I had checkd in to sign it...sorry
-Skins! finally, it looks like this has been figured out.
I've read just about every thread I could find to catch up on what has
happened with the skins.
I teach Photoshop at a college - so I'm ok on the editing and bit depth
etc...
BUT
where are these .bmp files? Are they embedded in the .exe?
How does one get to these?

I already did a search and I pray I'm not kicking a kicked horse.
Those of you who know me via the NG know that I rarely ask any
questions...when I do, I'm really stuck.
I've been trying to get rid of that golden eyesore for quite some time now
and I really like the skins I've seen. Just need to know the process.

Any pointers would be appreciated! We don't have Paris 4 now (wink wink)or
anything really exciting that I missed...do we??
Thanks,

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------=_NextPart_000_01E0_01C59AA7.A85229A0--Well, AES will soon be back in New York. Anyone here planning to
attend? Anyone want to get together for a Paris group dinner again?
Those who were are the last one in 2003 can attest to the great time
they had.

In a related note, if you read this, Morgan, can you help a brother
out with a pass to the AES Exhibits? Thanks in advance.

- Paul Artola
Ellicott City, MarylandYes, that WAS what it was like. I read the book around 91-92 whle finishing
school and interning at Island Record's label called Smash records: where
anything but a smash was intended. We worked hard, they kept everything as
the lowest priority...they just didn't tell us. Then, while working at
Elektra Entertainment (outside Chicago) I met some of the senior people at
Warner, Elektra, and Atlantic (WEA) who lived it from the late 60s through
the 80s and they explained some things to me. I've seen the "modern way"
during the 90s in action and I've been following things now. Mr. Spitzer is
going to find a huge mess if he keeps investigating this further. This biz
with sony/bmg is not the only thing going on.

Well, that was the only time I ever discussed it with anybody that was
there - 1st hand. Because I became good friends with them over the years. I
don't know where anybody discusses this stuff openly on the web. They were
all pretty tight about never having anything in writing and never leaving a
trail.

Perrin

"Arvid Solvang" <arvid@solvang.net> wrote in message news:42f484fb@linux...
> I have just read the book "HitMen: Power Brokers And Fast Money Inside The
> Music Business "
> http://www.musicroom.com/se/ID_No/045721/details.html
>
> Kind of funny to be in the middle of that book when the 'Payola'
Settlement
> happened.
>
http://www.billboard.com/bb/biz/newsroom/legal_management/ar ticle_display.js
p?vnu_content_id=1000991014
>
> Is this book concidered "the thruth" about the buisness or...?
> Any netforums or something that discusses it?
>
> best
> --
> Arvid Solvang
> http://www.viagram.no/
>
>After somewhat of a marathon tracking session over the last few days, I've
discovered a weak link, at least for the way I'm working most of the time
around here.

Having headroom to spare without worring overly much about input overload
has become a bit of an issue.

I've got a TL Audio 2001 4 channel preamp that sounds *really* nice, but one
channel is going south (I think there is a problem with the voltage feeding
one of the IC's on channel 2 because this same one keeps crapping out).
Also, this preamp just doesn't have the headroom on the input that I need. I
am thinking about getting it fixed and just plugging LP's into each input
channel. This would probably work OK, but I am finding that in these
balls-to-the-wall tracking sessions, one undependable and/or weak link can
really be a PITA when I've got 16-18 hot mics and I'm trying to run a
session solo.

Locating a source of distortion in the middle of a take and attenuating
tweaking the preamp while trying to keep my head wrapped around everything
else that's going on, like sneaky musicians grabbing the mics and moving
them around so they are getting a sound in their cans that *they* like
without asking me to fix it at the board, for instance is enough to make a
guy crazy when he's trying to ride herd on all of it.

I'm thinking about getting a Sytek or maybe another Forssell JMP-6 or Great
River MP4. I've either used these, or am familiar with them and they are all
majorly nice preamps. The Sytek especially is a major bang-for-the-buck
item, but I've also been wondering about a John Hardy 4 channel, True
Precision 8, Focusrite 428 and a Focusrite RED 1. I'm looking for
transparency/true to the source rather than color.

I'll be getting a small chunk o' change soon from a production I'm doing
here. Anyone ever used any of the aforementioned pre's?

Thanks,

Deejhttp://www.kissthisguy.com/

It's all about misheard song lyrics - way funny!

-Markusi've got the true 8 and it's mostly used on the drum kit...toms, hi
hat and bottom snare. very similar to grace pres in sound. they're
also set up for MS.

On Sat, 6 Aug 2005 22:56:45 -0600, "DJ"
<animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote:

>After somewhat of a marathon tracking session over the last few days, I've
>discovered a weak link, at least for the way I'm working most of the time
>around here.
>
>Having headroom to spare without worring overly much about input overload
>has become a bit of an issue.
>
>I've got a TL Audio 2001 4 channel preamp that sounds *really* nice, but one
>channel is going south (I think there is a problem with the voltage feeding
>one of the IC's on channel 2 because this same one keeps crapping out).
>Also, this preamp just doesn't have the headroom on the input that I need. I
>am thinking about getting it fixed and just plugging LP's into each input
>channel. This would probably work OK, but I am finding that in these
>balls-to-the-wall tracking sessions, one undependable and/or weak link can
>really be a PITA when I've got 16-18 hot mics and I'm trying to run a
>session solo.
>
>Locating a source of distortion in the middle of a take and attenuating
>tweaking the preamp while trying to keep my head wrapped around everything
>else that's going on, like sneaky musicians grabbing the mics and moving
>them around so they are getting a sound in their cans that *they* like
>without asking me to fix it at the board, for instance is enough to make a
>guy crazy when he's trying to ride herd on all of it.
>
>I'm thinking about getting a Sytek or maybe another Forssell JMP-6 or Great
>River MP4. I've either used these, or am familiar with them and they are all
>majorly nice preamps. The Sytek especially is a major bang-for-the-buck
>item, but I've also been wondering about a John Hardy 4 channel, True
>Precision 8, Focusrite 428 and a Focusrite RED 1. I'm looking for
>transparency/true to the source rather than color.
>
>I'll be getting a small chunk o' change soon from a production I'm doing
>here. Anyone ever used any of the aforementioned pre's?
>
>Thanks,
>
>Deej
>
>
>My next pre is probably gonna be the Daking 4 channel. $1900.



"DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote:
>After somewhat of a marathon tracking session over the last few days, I've
>discovered a weak link, at least for the way I'm working most of the time
>around here.
>
>Having headroom to spare without worring overly much about input overload
>has become a bit of an issue.
>
>I've got a TL Audio 2001 4 channel preamp that sounds *really* nice, but
one
>channel is going south (I think there is a problem with the voltage feeding
>one of the IC's on channel 2 because this same one keeps crapping out).
>Also, this preamp just doesn't have the headroom on the input that I need.
I
>am thinking about getting it fixed and just plugging LP's into each input
>channel. This would probably work OK, but I am finding that in these
>balls-to-the-wall tracking sessions, one undependable and/or weak link can
>really be a PITA when I've got 16-18 hot mics and I'm trying to run a
>session solo.
>
>Locating a source of distortion in the middle of a take and attenuating
>tweaking the preamp while trying to keep my head wrapped around everything
>else that's going on, like sneaky musicians grabbing the mics and moving
>them around so they are getting a sound in their cans that *they* like
>without asking me to fix it at the board, for instance is enough to make
a
>guy crazy when he's trying to ride herd on all of it.
>
>I'm thinking about getting a Sytek or maybe another Forssell JMP-6 or Great
>River MP4. I've either used these, or am familiar with them and they are
all
>majorly nice preamps. The Sytek especially is a major bang-for-the-buck
>item, but I've also been wondering about a John Hardy 4 channel, True
>Precision 8, Focusrite 428 and a Focusrite RED 1. I'm looking for
>transparency/true to the source rather than color.
>
>I'll be getting a small chunk o' change soon from a production I'm doing
>here. Anyone ever used any of the aforementioned pre's?
>
>Thanks,
>
>Deej
>
>
>
>search for rap radio on google:
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=rap+radio

4,000,000 results... hydro is #5, above Sirius and live365.com

This tends to fluctuate a lot anyway, but I thought it was cool.

Of course I still dont make a dime off the siteIf I had to buy one quality utility pre it would probably be
the True 8. However, if I had nothing but cash falling out
of my jeans, I would most likely go for 2 - RED 1 instead.
The again, 8 Liquid channels would be nice too... ;-)

David.

DJ wrote:
> After somewhat of a marathon tracking session over the last few days, I've
> discovered a weak link, at least for the way I'm working most of the time
> around here.
>
> Having headroom to spare without worring overly much about input overload
> has become a bit of an issue.
>
> I've got a TL Audio 2001 4 channel preamp that sounds *really* nice, but one
> channel is going south (I think there is a problem with the voltage feeding
> one of the IC's on channel 2 because this same one keeps crapping out).
> Also, this preamp just doesn't have the headroom on the input that I need. I
> am thinking about getting it fixed and just plugging LP's into each input
> channel. This would probably work OK, but I am finding that in these
> balls-to-the-wall tracking sessions, one undependable and/or weak link can
> really be a PITA when I've got 16-18 hot mics and I'm trying to run a
> session solo.
>
> Locating a source of distortion in the middle of a take and attenuating
> tweaking the preamp while trying to keep my head wrapped around everything
> else that's going on, like sneaky musicians grabbing the mics and moving
> them around so they are getting a sound in their cans that *they* like
> without asking me to fix it at the board, for instance is enough to make a
> guy crazy when he's trying to ride herd on all of it.
>
> I'm thinking about getting a Sytek or maybe another Forssell JMP-6 or Great
> River MP4. I've either used these, or am familiar with them and they are all
> majorly nice preamps. The Sytek especially is a major bang-for-the-buck
> item, but I've also been wondering about a John Hardy 4 channel, True
> Precision 8, Focusrite 428 and a Focusrite RED 1. I'm looking for
> transparency/true to the source rather than color.
>
> I'll be getting a small chunk o' change soon from a production I'm doing
> here. Anyone ever used any of the aforementioned pre's?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Deej
>
>
>
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Deej,
I can speak for the True Systems Precision 8. I've had
two since I first bout Paris. They are tons of gain, quiet
and pristine sounding. I bought them as a cost effective
Grace solution ($2,600/per in 1999). I've always loved their
sound but go to the Neves, Teles for character. One channel
has a phantom power problem and I've heard there's a flaw
in the design to cause this. Other than that, these babies are
all that I hoped for. Sometimes when recording hard hitters,
they are too hot at the output and it forces me to throw a quality=20
comp on the back side to lower its level when recording drums.=20

8 great pres for relatively short money, great metering and built
in M/S encoding. Cool product that seems to have become a=20
staple pre.
Tom


"Dave(EK Sound)" <audioguy_nospam_@shaw.ca> wrote in message =
news:42f61f67$1@linux...
If I had to buy one quality utility pre it would probably be=20
the True 8. However, if I had nothing but cash falling out=20
of my jeans, I would most likely go for 2 - RED 1 instead.=20
The again, 8 Liquid channels would be nice too... ;-)

David.

DJ wrote:
> After somewhat of a marathon tracking session over the last few =
days, I've
> discovered a weak link, at least for the way I'm working most of the =
time
> around here.
>=20
> Having headroom to spare without worring overly much about input =
overload
> has become a bit of an issue.
>=20
> I've got a TL Audio 2001 4 channel preamp that sounds *really* nice, =
but one
> channel is going south (I think there is a problem with the voltage =
feeding
> one of the IC's on channel 2 because this same one keeps crapping =
out).
> Also, this preamp just doesn't have the headroom on the input that I =
need. I
> am thinking about getting it fixed and just plugging LP's into each =
input
> channel. This would probably work OK, but I am finding that in these
> balls-to-the-wall tracking sessions, one undependable and/or weak =
link can
> really be a PITA when I've got 16-18 hot mics and I'm trying to run =
a
> session solo.
>=20
> Locating a source of distortion in the middle of a take and =
attenuating
> tweaking the preamp while trying to keep my head wrapped around =
everything
> else that's going on, like sneaky musicians grabbing the mics and =
moving
> them around so they are getting a sound in their cans that *they* =
like
> without asking me to fix it at the board, for instance is enough to =
make a
> guy crazy when he's trying to ride herd on all of it.
>=20
> I'm thinking about getting a Sytek or maybe another Forssell JMP-6 =
or Great
> River MP4. I've either used these, or am familiar with them and they =
are all
> majorly nice preamps. The Sytek especially is a major =
bang-for-the-buck
> item, but I've also been wondering about a John Hardy 4 channel, =
True
> Precision 8, Focusrite 428 and a Focusrite RED 1. I'm looking for
> transparency/true to the source rather than color.
>=20
> I'll be getting a small chunk o' change soon from a production I'm =
doing
> here. Anyone ever used any of the aforementioned pre's?
>=20
> Thanks,
>=20
> Deej
>=20
>=20
>=20
>
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I can speak for the True Systems =
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I've had</FONT></DIV>
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Paris.&nbsp; They are=20
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>and pristine =
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Grace solution ($2,600/per in =
1999).&nbsp; I've=20
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>sound but go to the Neves, Teles for=20
character.&nbsp; One channel</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>has a phantom power problem and I've =
heard there's=20
a flaw</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>in the&nbsp;design to cause this.&nbsp; =
Other than=20
that, these babies are</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>all that I hoped for.&nbsp; Sometimes =
when=20
recording hard hitters,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>they are too hot at the output =
</FONT><FONT=20
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>comp on the back&nbsp;side to =
</FONT><FONT=20
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drums.</FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>8 great pres for relatively short =
money, great=20
metering and built</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>in M/S encoding.&nbsp; Cool product =
that seems to=20
have become a </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>staple </FONT><FONT face=3DArial=20
size=3D2>pre.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Tom</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV>"Dave(EK Sound)" &lt;<A=20
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had to buy=20
one quality utility pre it would probably be <BR>the True 8.&nbsp; =
However, if=20
I had nothing but cash falling out <BR>of my jeans, I would most =
likely go for=20
2 - RED 1 instead. <BR>The again, 8 Liquid channels would be nice =
too...=20
;-)<BR><BR>David.<BR><BR>DJ wrote:<BR>&gt; After somewhat of a =
marathon=20
tracking session over the last few days, I've<BR>&gt; discovered a =
weak link,=20
at least for the way I'm working most of the time<BR>&gt; around =
here.<BR>&gt;=20
<BR>&gt; Having headroom to spare without worring overly much about =
input=20
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got a TL=20
Audio 2001 4 channel preamp that sounds *really* nice, but one<BR>&gt; =
channel=20
is going south (I think there is a problem with the voltage =
feeding<BR>&gt;=20
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out).<BR>&gt; Also, this preamp just doesn't have the headroom on the =
input=20
that I need. I<BR>&gt; am thinking about getting it fixed and just =
plugging=20
LP's into each input<BR>&gt; channel. This would probably work OK, but =
I am=20
finding that in these<BR>&gt; balls-to-the-wall tracking sessions, one =

undependable and/or weak link can<BR>&gt; really be&nbsp; a PITA when =
I've got=20
16-18 hot mics and I'm trying to run a<BR>&gt; session solo.<BR>&gt; =
<BR>&gt;=20
Locating a source of distortion in the middle of a take and=20
attenuating<BR>&gt; tweaking the preamp while trying to keep my head =
wrapped=20
around everything<BR>&gt; else that's going on, like sneaky musicians =
grabbing=20
the mics and moving<BR>&gt; them around so they are getting a sound in =
their=20
cans that *they* like<BR>&gt; without asking me to fix it at the =
board, for=20
instance is enough to make a<BR>&gt; guy crazy when he's trying to =
ride herd=20
on all of it.<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; I'm thinking about getting a Sytek or =
maybe=20
another Forssell JMP-6 or Great<BR>&gt; River MP4. I've either used =
these, or=20
am familiar with them and they are all<BR>&gt; majorly nice preamps. =
The Sytek=20
especially is a major bang-for-the-buck<BR>&gt; item, but I've also =
been=20
wondering about a John Hardy 4 channel, True<BR>&gt; Precision 8, =
Focusrite=20
428 and a Focusrite RED 1. I'm looking for<BR>&gt; transparency/true =
to the=20
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chunk o'=20
change soon from a production I'm doing<BR>&gt; here. Anyone ever used =
any of=20
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> Precision 8, Focusrite 428 and a Focusrite RED 1. I'm looking for
> transparency/true to the source rather than color.
>
> I'll be getting a small chunk o' change soon from a production I'm doing
> here. Anyone ever used any of the aforementioned pre's?


Well, since I'm spending your hard earned money:
http://www.johnhardyco.com/JTS990Details.html

Holler for Don C's recommendation on bona fides for this bad boy.

I'll be smiling when I get just one :)


El Miguel






"DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote in message
news:42f59431@linux...
> After somewhat of a marathon tracking session over the last few days, I've
> discovered a weak link, at least for the way I'm working most of the time
> around here.
>
> Having headroom to spare without worring overly much about input overload
> has become a bit of an issue.
>
> I've got a TL Audio 2001 4 channel preamp that sounds *really* nice, but
one
> channel is going south (I think there is a problem with the voltage
feeding
> one of the IC's on channel 2 because this same one keeps crapping out).
> Also, this preamp just doesn't have the headroom on the input that I need.
I
> am thinking about getting it fixed and just plugging LP's into each input
> channel. This would probably work OK, but I am finding that in these
> balls-to-the-wall tracking sessions, one undependable and/or weak link can
> really be a PITA when I've got 16-18 hot mics and I'm trying to run a
> session solo.
>
> Locating a source of distortion in the middle of a take and attenuating
> tweaking the preamp while trying to keep my head wrapped around everything
> else that's going on, like sneaky musicians grabbing the mics and moving
> them around so they are getting a sound in their cans that *they* like
> without asking me to fix it at the board, for instance is enough to make a
> guy crazy when he's trying to ride herd on all of it.
>
> I'm thinking about getting a Sytek or maybe another Forssell JMP-6 or
Great
> River MP4. I've either used these, or am familiar with them and they are
all
> majorly nice preamps. The Sytek especially is a major bang-for-the-buck
> item, but I've also been wondering about a John Hardy 4 channel, True
> Precision 8, Focusrite 428 and a Focusrite RED 1. I'm looking for
> transparency/true to the source rather than color.
>
> I'll be getting a small chunk o' change soon from a production I'm doing
> here. Anyone ever used any of the aforementioned pre's?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Deej
>
>
>
>Several good pres on your list. I love the John Hardy.

I just spent some time working with a new Portico and it should also be on
your list to consider. Very big sound and a great value for the $$$. I hate
wall-warts, but I think I will make an exception for this baby.

Gene


"DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote:
>After somewhat of a marathon tracking session over the last few days, I've
>discovered a weak link, at least for the way I'm working most of the time
>around here.
>
>Having headroom to spare without worring overly much about input overload
>has become a bit of an issue.
>
>I've got a TL Audio 2001 4 channel preamp that sounds *really* nice, but
one
>channel is going south (I think there is a problem with the voltage feeding
>one of the IC's on channel 2 because this same one keeps crapping out).
>Also, this preamp just doesn't have the headroom on the input that I need.
I
>am thinking about getting it fixed and just plugging LP's into each input
>channel. This would probably work OK, but I am finding that in these
>balls-to-the-wall tracking sessions, one undependable and/or weak link can
>really be a PITA when I've got 16-18 hot mics and I'm trying to run a
>session solo.
>
>Locating a source of distortion in the middle of a take and attenuating
>tweaking the preamp while trying to keep my head wrapped around everything
>else that's going on, like sneaky musicians grabbing the mics and moving
>them around so they are getting a sound in their cans that *they* like
>without asking me to fix it at the board, for instance is enough to make
a
>guy crazy when he's trying to ride herd on all of it.
>
>I'm thinking about getting a Sytek or maybe another Forssell JMP-6 or Great
>River MP4. I've either used these, or am familiar with them and they are
all
>majorly nice preamps. The Sytek especially is a major bang-for-the-buck
>item, but I've also been wondering about a John Hardy 4 channel, True
>Precision 8, Focusrite 428 and a Focusrite RED 1. I'm looking for
>transparency/true to the source rather than color.
>
>I'll be getting a small chunk o' change soon from a production I'm doing
>here. Anyone ever used any of the aforementioned pre's?
>
>Thanks,
>
>Deej
>
>
>
>"DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote:
>I'm thinking about getting a Sytek or maybe another Forssell JMP-6 or Great
>River MP4. I've either used these, or am familiar with them and they are
all
>majorly nice preamps. The Sytek especially is a major bang-for-the-buck
>item, but I've also been wondering about a John Hardy 4 channel, True
>Precision 8, Focusrite 428 and a Focusrite RED 1. I'm looking for
>transparency/true to the source rather than color.

I've got the Red 8 (2-ch baby brother to the Red 1), and I like
it a lot... it's not what I'd call transparent, though; it's
got some coloration, but to me it seems to be mostly way up
the "air band". If you try one, fair warning: you probably
won't like it with your C-1 or any other mics of that ilk. On
my TLM-103, for example (which doesn't even have as big of a
bump as the C-1), it sounds a bit harsh, but with my Kiwi, or
modded M-147, and certain dynamics, it sounds really nice.

I've also got the 428, and that one - IMO - is pretty
transparent. It's also very flexible, though, so you can indeed
dial in some color if you want (it's got four different
impedance settings, for example... Low, ISA110, Med & High).
Deej, this one is definitely worth checking out in terms of
bang-for-the-buck. I'd say it has a bit of a "softer" sound
than the Red 8... maybe less edge or something like that.

BTW, more about the Red 8 - I think I remember you saying you
you have a Red7, yes? From what I've understand, the -7 (using
the preamp only, no comp or EQ) does not sound exactly like
the -1's or -8's, so I don't know if you can use yours as a
guideline for what you'd get tone-wise. In any event, a couple
of months ago, in preparation for a recording session (one that
never went down, but that's another story), I had the guitarist
bring his rig over & audition some mics & pres. I set up four
mics at first & tracked 'em all simultaneously (to different
tracks, of course, so we could a/b them) while he played;
had him pick his favorite two sounds, then started swapping out
mics & pres so we could compare the other options to his
original favorite two. The mics & pres were:

SM-57
B.L.U.E. Ball
Senn. e609 Silver
Audix D1
Audix i5

Grace 101's (2)
Avalon 737sm
Mucusrite ISA 428
Mucusrite RED 8
Chandler TG-2

His favorite by a long shot ended up being the Audix i5 through
the Focusrite Red; next favorite was the Ball through the Red.
His least favorite was the sm-57 through anything.
Now, this was your typical modern-metal ESP guitar with EMG
humbuckers played through a Mesa Triple Rectumfryer rig, but I
found it interesting that the Red won out. For this tone, the
Avalon & Chandler came across pretty well, too, but the Red
sounded much better to him (and frankly, to me, too) - again,
for this particular tone, anyway. I still have some of the
files from that test so if anyone wants, I can assemble & post
an mp3 file of some clips if anyone wants to hear the
differences.

Neilso i took a chill pill but it's started to wear off... it's been over two
weeks and still no no limit or response from chuck. the last e-mails I sent
(to paypal@greatidea.com, cduffy@ideacorporation.com) were bounced back.
any ideas (see below)? he's probably on holiday (and I'm just jealous!).

ta,
D

"justcron" <justcron@hydrorecords.compound> wrote:
>dont stress it boss... dude will get ya
>
>"db" <daniel_burneNOSPAM@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>news:42f275e0$1@linux...
>>
>> Hi,
>> Just wondered if anyone has any contact details (phone / e-mail) for
>> Chuck.
>> I pay for NoLimit via PayPal about 10 days ago, but haven't had an e-mail
>> with the nolimit attachment back from him. I'm in fairly urgent need of
it
>> for a current project. I'm not sure how copy protection works, but perhaps
>> someone could e-mail me nolimit in the meantime, until chuck gets back
to
>> me. I do have a paypal receipt... MAny thanks.
>>
>> Dan
>
>>Thanks, Kim.
>I wait with baited breath...

Quick update.

Over the weekend I began reinstalling. Twice so far it has BSOD'd on me,
which is a real worry. Once when I was installing XP SP1, and another time
while I was downloading SP2.

Of course the real test will be whether it runs nicely once all this stuff
is loaded. I haven't, for example, loaded all the latest drivers on the MB
yet, and have only just flashed the BIOS to the latest. And it's still using
some default Windows VGA-ish video drivers, so it's still possible that it
will run nicely once I get all that stuff done. I'll hopefully get all that
finished tonight.

In any case I'm pretty sure that if it's not a driver/update issue that it
will be some form of actual hardware fault. We'll see.

Cheers,
Kim.HI Kim,
What does the blue screen say?


Kim wrote:

>>Thanks, Kim.
>>I wait with baited breath...
>
>
> Quick update.
>
> Over the weekend I began reinstalling. Twice so far it has BSOD'd on me,
> which is a real worry. Once when I was installing XP SP1, and another time
> while I was downloading SP2.
>
> Of course the real test will be whether it runs nicely once all this stuff
> is loaded. I haven't, for example, loaded all the latest drivers on the MB
> yet, and have only just flashed the BIOS to the latest. And it's still using
> some default Windows VGA-ish video drivers, so it's still possible that it
> will run nicely once I get all that stuff done. I'll hopefully get all that
> finished tonight.
>
> In any case I'm pretty sure that if it's not a driver/update issue that it
> will be some form of actual hardware fault. We'll see.
>
> Cheers,
> Kim.

--
Chris Ludwig
ADK
chrisl@adkproaudio.com <mailto:chrisl@adkproaudio.com>
www.adkproaudio.com <http://www.adkproaudio.com/>
(859) 635-5762Chris Ludwig <chrisl@adkproaudio.com> wrote:
>HI Kim,
>What does the blue screen say?

It's the one that says "Windows has been shut down to prevent damage to your
system. If this is the first time you've seen this message, please restart
your computer. If you see this message again..." etc. It doesn't reboot on
it's own though. Just goes calmly to the blue screen and waits for you to
restart.

Why, any clues?

Cheers,
Kim.I have just tried this for the first time at a friends house ... I don't
know yet if this is vocal dependent, but I haven't seen the Hardware box
(though I am sure it is out there for some stupid money) that can hammer
this hard without pumping sounds ... I am floored

TedThumbs up for the Sytek... Mine has been cooking along for about 3 years now.

gantt

DJ wrote:

> After somewhat of a marathon tracking session over the last few days, I've
> discovered a weak link, at least for the way I'm working most of the time
> around here.
>
> Having headroom to spare without worring overly much about input overload
> has become a bit of an issue.
>
> I've got a TL Audio 2001 4 channel preamp that sounds *really* nice, but one
> channel is going south (I think there is a problem with the voltage feeding
> one of the IC's on channel 2 because this same one keeps crapping out).
> Also, this preamp just doesn't have the headroom on the input that I need. I
> am thinking about getting it fixed and just plugging LP's into each input
> channel. This would probably work OK, but I am finding that in these
> balls-to-the-wall tracking sessions, one undependable and/or weak link can
> really be a PITA when I've got 16-18 hot mics and I'm trying to run a
> session solo.
>
> Locating a source of distortion in the middle of a take and attenuating
> tweaking the preamp while trying to keep my head wrapped around everything
> else that's going on, like sneaky musicians grabbing the mics and moving
> them around so they are getting a sound in their cans that *they* like
> without asking me to fix it at the board, for instance is enough to make a
> guy crazy when he's trying to ride herd on all of it.
>
> I'm thinking about getting a Sytek or maybe another Forssell JMP-6 or Great
> River MP4. I've either used these, or am familiar with them and they are all
> majorly nice preamps. The Sytek especially is a major bang-for-the-buck
> item, but I've also been wondering about a John Hardy 4 channel, True
> Precision 8, Focusrite 428 and a Focusrite RED 1. I'm looking for
> transparency/true to the source rather than color.
>
> I'll be getting a small chunk o' change soon from a production I'm doing
> here. Anyone ever used any of the aforementioned pre's?
>
> Thanks,
>
> DeejI'd say either the Great River or Hardy M1 four channel units... I love them
both.

GrahamSpotted this ( http://news.parisnewsgroup.com/cgi-bin/dnewsweb?cmd=article& amp;group=IDEA.EMUEnsoniqPARIS&item=127221&utag=
- about FX presets not saving when re-opening Paris on XP) on the Paris newsgroup
from about 18 months ago. Now that I've migrated to XP I'm having the same
problem, and was wondering if anyone (Manic?) found a way to solve it.

Since I've now lost a bunch of my presets, I'm also keen to get hold of some
new ones. It'd be great if you got any tasty ones to share - I know Mike
Audet has set up a sharing resource for Paris presents, and could forward
them on to him if you'd like. I've also collected the reverb presets from
the group over the years and could post them as a ppj if anyone's interested.


Many thanks in advance for any assistance.

Best wishes,

DanielI think I've made some progress.

I tried to continue installing tonight, and everything went to poop. It BSOD'd
about three times while I tried to install SP2, and the final time it would
no longer boot because of a claimed disk read error, so I started again...
fresh format...

This time I had all the updates ready on the HDD before I started. I ran
through SP1 and SP2... no probs, then loaded the latest NVIDIA graphics
drivers, and then the MB drivers. Now, the first time it crashed when loading
the MB drivers, but I tried again (with IE closed) and it went through fine.
Since then it hasn't crashed once. I've installed EDS drivers, Paris and
the effects subsystem and it seems to be running ok. I've installed all the
high priority Windows Updates, and am now onto the others. There's one hardware
driver in there though and I'm not sure about that... think I'd rather
NVIDIA's driver than MS's.

Point is though it seems a lot more stable now that the latest MB drivers
are on, so I suspect that was the issue.

I don't know how much more I'll get done tonight, but I'll progress further
during the week and keep you both posted. Fingers crossed it might be coming
good. :o)

Cheers,
Kim.Hi Daniel,

I'd actually forgot about the preset sharing site I set up. No one took
me up on it. But, feel free to send me stuff, because I'd love to get it
going.

All the best,
Mike


"db" <daniel_burneNOSPAM@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>Spotted this ( http://news.parisnewsgroup.com/cgi-bin/dnewsweb?cmd=article& amp;group=IDEA.EMUEnsoniqPARIS&item=127221&utag=
>- about FX presets not saving when re-opening Paris on XP) on the Paris
newsgroup
>from about 18 months ago. Now that I've migrated to XP I'm having the same
>problem, and was wondering if anyone (Manic?) found a way to solve it.
>
>Since I've now lost a bunch of my presets, I'm also keen to get hold of
some
>new ones. It'd be great if you got any tasty ones to share - I know Mike
>Audet has set up a sharing resource for Paris presents, and could forward
>them on to him if you'd like. I've also collected the reverb presets from
>the group over the years and could post them as a ppj if anyone's interested.
>
>
>Many thanks in advance for any assistance.
>
>Best wishes,
>
>DanielHi Perrin,

'Fraid I can't help with the skins (although it rings a bell - I'm fairly
sure at least one person was working with a differently skinner Paris).

Unfortunately I also missed the letter to ID (having also been away for a
while). Reckon it's worth us sending a belated update with our names (that
way we might passed the magic 100 barrier)...? Was there any response?

Cheers,
Dan

"Perrin" <captainperrin@atyahoo.com> wrote:
>I haven't checked in since October! - I got fired, moved, lost a drummer,
>wife & I had a baby girl (well, she did all the work) got a new job, got
a
>new drummer...Paris has been collecting dust until now.
>
>Wow, lots o' intersting stuff going on here:
>-saw the letter to ID...very cool, wish I had checkd in to sign it...sorry
>-Skins! finally, it looks like this has been figured out.
>I've read just about every thread I could find to catch up on what has
>happened with the skins.
>I teach Photoshop at a college - so I'm ok on the editing and bit depth
>etc...
>BUT
>where are these .bmp files? Are they embedded in the .exe?
>How does one get to these?
>
>I already did a search and I pray I'm not kicking a kicked horse.
>Those of you who know me via the NG know that I rarely ask any
>questions...when I do, I'm really stuck.
>I've been trying to get rid of that golden eyesore for quite some time now
>and I really like the skins I've seen. Just need to know the process.
>
>Any pointers would be appreciated! We don't have Paris 4 now (wink wink)or
>anything really exciting that I missed...do we??
>Thanks,
>
>Perrin
>
>I guess I wasn't the only one to notice. Then again, this is nothing new!


http://www.macnewsworld.com/story/7FnqZee5MaTmeq/Windows-Vis ta-Feels-Like-a-Mac.xhtmlHey Perrin,

To get to the bitmaps, you will need a little program called PE Explorer,
which is available at www.heaventools.com .
It has a 30 day time limit, but is a much more smooth program to work with
than the one mention in previous posts (the problem being that the 8 bit
bitmaps would retain the original palette, so if you changed the color
scheme drastically, it made things look really off). Once you have the PE
Explorer, you can go into the Paris.exe file (make sure you work on a copy
of the original file, rather than the original itself) and browse around for
the bitmaps. Simply save them, work on them, then replace them. It
actually really cool once you get something completed - I just don't have
time to presently. If you have any questions, feel free to give me a shout.

Stephen

P.S. Live trace in Illustrator CS2 is a GREAT thing.


"Perrin" <captainperrin@atyahoo.com> wrote in message news:42f533f5@linux...
>I haven't checked in since October! - I got fired, moved, lost a drummer,
> wife & I had a baby girl (well, she did all the work) got a new job, got a
> new drummer...Paris has been collecting dust until now.
>
> Wow, lots o' intersting stuff going on here:
> -saw the letter to ID...very cool, wish I had checkd in to sign it...sorry
> -Skins! finally, it looks like this has been figured out.
> I've read just about every thread I could find to catch up on what has
> happened with the skins.
> I teach Photoshop at a college - so I'm ok on the editing and bit depth
> etc...
> BUT
> where are these .bmp files? Are they embedded in the .exe?
> How does one get to these?
>
> I already did a search and I pray I'm not kicking a kicked horse.
> Those of you who know me via the NG know that I rarely ask any
> questions...when I do, I'm really stuck.
> I've been trying to get rid of that golden eyesore for quite some time now
> and I really like the skins I've seen. Just need to know the process.
>
> Any pointers would be appreciated! We don't have Paris 4 now (wink wink)or
> anything really exciting that I missed...do we??
> Thanks,
>
> Perrin
>
>Paul,

There's about a 50/50 chance I'll make it out from Chicago for this year's
AES. If I'm there, I'll definitely be up for the PARIS dinner again,
though.

Brian Porick


"Paul Artola" <artola@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:g3taf1p7r711do258csmv1tojtqa91nfjm@4ax.com...
> Well, AES will soon be back in New York. Anyone here planning to
> attend? Anyone want to get together for a Paris group dinner again?
> Those who were are the last one in 2003 can attest to the great time
> they had.
>
> In a related note, if you read this, Morgan, can you help a brother
> out with a pass to the AES Exhibits? Thanks in advance.
>
> - Paul Artola
> Ellicott City, Maryland
>hmmmmmmmmmmmm, does it sound neve like?


:)

El Miguel



"gene lennon" <glennon@NOSPmyrealbox.com> wrote in message
news:42f63550$1@linux...
>
> Several good pres on your list. I love the John Hardy.
>
> I just spent some time working with a new Portico and it should also be on
> your list to consider. Very big sound and a great value for the $$$. I
hate
> wall-warts, but I think I will make an exception for this baby.
>
> Gene
>
>
> "DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote:
> >After somewhat of a marathon tracking session over the last few days,
I've
> >discovered a weak link, at least for the way I'm working most of the time
> >around here.
> >
> >Having headroom to spare without worring overly much about input overload
> >has become a bit of an issue.
> >
> >I've got a TL Audio 2001 4 channel preamp that sounds *really* nice, but
> one
> >channel is going south (I think there is a problem with the voltage
feeding
> >one of the IC's on channel 2 because this same one keeps crapping out).
> >Also, this preamp just doesn't have the headroom on the input that I
need.
> I
> >am thinking about getting it fixed and just plugging LP's into each input
> >channel. This would probably work OK, but I am finding that in these
> >balls-to-the-wall tracking sessions, one undependable and/or weak link
can
> >really be a PITA when I've got 16-18 hot mics and I'm trying to run a
> >session solo.
> >
> >Locating a source of distortion in the middle of a take and attenuating
> >tweaking the preamp while trying to keep my head wrapped around
everything
> >else that's going on, like sneaky musicians grabbing the mics and moving
> >them around so they are getting a sound in their cans that *they* like
> >without asking me to fix it at the board, for instance is enough to make
> a
> >guy crazy when he's trying to ride herd on all of it.
> >
> >I'm thinking about getting a Sytek or maybe another Forssell JMP-6 or
Great
> >River MP4. I've either used these, or am familiar with them and they are
> all
> >majorly nice preamps. The Sytek especially is a major bang-for-the-buck
> >item, but I've also been wondering about a John Hardy 4 channel, True
> >Precision 8, Focusrite 428 and a Focusrite RED 1. I'm looking for
> >transparency/true to the source rather than color.
> >
> >I'll be getting a small chunk o' change soon from a production I'm doing
> >here. Anyone ever used any of the aforementioned pre's?
> >
> >Thanks,
> >
> >Deej
> >
> >
> >
> >
>I have in fact been on the road for a while. While on the road my hosting
provider shut down all my stuff due to (perceived) non payment. It's been
restored and I now have access to email again. I am searching my laptop
now for nolimit and will send if I have it with me. If not it willbe Thursday.

SORRY!!!

Chuck

"db" <daniel_burneNOSPAM@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>so i took a chill pill but it's started to wear off... it's been over two
>weeks and still no no limit or response from chuck. the last e-mails I sent
>(to paypal@greatidea.com, cduffy@ideacorporation.com) were bounced back.
>any ideas (see below)? he's probably on holiday (and I'm just jealous!).
>
>ta,
>D
>
>"justcron" <justcron@hydrorecords.compound> wrote:
>>dont stress it boss... dude will get ya
>>
>>"db" <daniel_burneNOSPAM@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>news:42f275e0$1@linux...
>>>
>>> Hi,
>>> Just wondered if anyone has any contact details (phone / e-mail) for

>>> Chuck.
>>> I pay for NoLimit via PayPal about 10 days ago, but haven't had an e-mail
>>> with the nolimit attachment back from him. I'm in fairly urgent need
of
>it
>>> for a current project. I'm not sure how copy protection works, but perhaps
>>> someone could e-mail me nolimit in the meantime, until chuck gets back
>to
>>> me. I do have a paypal receipt... MAny thanks.
>>>
>>> Dan
>>
>>
>I'm a Great River guy. Any other preamp purchases I make will be in the
API/Chandler/Pendulum/TAB Funkenwerks/Phoenix/D.W. Fearn veign. But I ain't
got that money right now...

Jimmy

"DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote in message
news:42f59431@linux...
> After somewhat of a marathon tracking session over the last few days, I've
> discovered a weak link, at least for the way I'm working most of the time
> around here.
>
> Having headroom to spare without worring overly much about input overload
> has become a bit of an issue.
>
> I've got a TL Audio 2001 4 channel preamp that sounds *really* nice, but
one
> channel is going south (I think there is a problem with the voltage
feeding
> one of the IC's on channel 2 because this same one keeps crapping out).
> Also, this preamp just doesn't have the headroom on the input that I need.
I
> am thinking about getting it fixed and just plugging LP's into each input
> channel. This would probably work OK, but I am finding that in these
> balls-to-the-wall tracking sessions, one undependable and/or weak link can
> really be a PITA when I've got 16-18 hot mics and I'm trying to run a
> session solo.
>
> Locating a source of distortion in the middle of a take and attenuating
> tweaking the preamp while trying to keep my head wrapped around everything
> else that's going on, like sneaky musicians grabbing the mics and moving
> them around so they are getting a sound in their cans that *they* like
> without asking me to fix it at the board, for instance is enough to make a
> guy crazy when he's trying to ride herd on all of it.
>
> I'm thinking about getting a Sytek or maybe another Forssell JMP-6 or
Great
> River MP4. I've either used these, or am familiar with them and they are
all
> majorly nice preamps. The Sytek especially is a major bang-for-the-buck
> item, but I've also been wondering about a John Hardy 4 channel, True
> Precision 8, Focusrite 428 and a Focusrite RED 1. I'm looking for
> transparency/true to the source rather than color.
>
> I'll be getting a small chunk o' change soon from a production I'm doing
> here. Anyone ever used any of the aforementioned pre's?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Deej
>
>
>
>ANyone familliar with that sytek opamp upgrade?





"uptown jimmy" <johnson314@bellsouth.net> wrote:
>I'm a Great River guy. Any other preamp purchases I make will be in the
>API/Chandler/Pendulum/TAB Funkenwerks/Phoenix/D.W. Fearn veign. But I ain't
>got that money right now...
>
>Jimmy
>
>"DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote in message
>news:42f59431@linux...
>> After somewhat of a marathon tracking session over the last few days,
I've
>> discovered a weak link, at least for the way I'm working most of the time
>> around here.
>>
>> Having headroom to spare without worring overly much about input overload
>> has become a bit of an issue.
>>
>> I've got a TL Audio 2001 4 channel preamp that sounds *really* nice, but
>one
>> channel is going south (I think there is a problem with the voltage
>feeding
>> one of the IC's on channel 2 because this same one keeps crapping out).
>> Also, this preamp just doesn't have the headroom on the input that I need.
>I
>> am thinking about getting it fixed and just plugging LP's into each input
>> channel. This would probably work OK, but I am finding that in these
>> balls-to-the-wall tracking sessions, one undependable and/or weak link
can
>> really be a PITA when I've got 16-18 hot mics and I'm trying to run a
>> session solo.
>>
>> Locating a source of distortion in the middle of a take and attenuating
>> tweaking the preamp while trying to keep my head wrapped around everything
>> else that's going on, like sneaky musicians grabbing the mics and moving
>> them around so they are getting a sound in their cans that *they* like
>> without asking me to fix it at the board, for instance is enough to make
a
>> guy crazy when he's trying to ride herd on all of it.
>>
>> I'm thinking about getting a Sytek or maybe another Forssell JMP-6 or
>Great
>> River MP4. I've either used these, or am familiar with them and they are
>all
>> majorly nice preamps. The Sytek especially is a major bang-for-the-buck
>> item, but I've also been wondering about a John Hardy 4 channel, True
>> Precision 8, Focusrite 428 and a Focusrite RED 1. I'm looking for
>> transparency/true to the source rather than color.
>>
>> I'll be getting a small chunk o' change soon from a production I'm doing
>> here. Anyone ever used any of the aforementioned pre's?
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Deej
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>"DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote:

>I'm thinking about getting a Sytek or maybe another Forssell JMP-6 or Great
>River MP4. I've either used these, or am familiar with them and they are
all
>majorly nice preamps. The Sytek especially is a major bang-for-the-buck
>item, but I've also been wondering about a John Hardy 4 channel, True
>Precision 8, Focusrite 428 and a Focusrite RED 1. I'm looking for
>transparency/true to the source rather than color.
>
>I'll be getting a small chunk o' change soon from a production I'm doing
>here. Anyone ever used any of the aforementioned pre's?

I had a Sytek and loved it. Definitly the best bang for buck preamp out
there. I sold it and got a four channel GML. Can't recommend it enough....I wonder if you ever tried a AD500 Apogee (not the AD1000) with
softlimit , with Paris , would that be -TODAY- an upgrade over the stock
Paris converters ?
I still only record at 16 bits...
Regards,
Dimitrios"Miguel Vigil" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote:
>hmmmmmmmmmmmm, does it sound neve like?
>
>
>:)
>
>El Miguel
>

OR:
Can Rupert build something that doesn’t sound like a Neve?
:-)
G"Mike Claytor" <claytor@nospam.com> wrote in news:42f220db$1@linux:

> Tats are so mainstream now, and I especially hate "ass antlers" on women!
> Give me a gal with nice clean, unmarked skin.

hahahah... "ass antlers"

around here we call those "tramp stamps" on the ladies.

-volthauseNo worries. Thanks Chuck. Sorry for the stress - was a bit worries you'd disappeared
(holiday perhaps!).

Much appreciated,

Daniel

"chuck" <c@c.com> wrote:
>
>I have in fact been on the road for a while. While on the road my hosting
>provider shut down all my stuff due to (perceived) non payment. It's been
>restored and I now have access to email again. I am searching my laptop
>now for nolimit and will send if I have it with me. If not it willbe Thursday.
>
>SORRY!!!
>
>Chuck
>
>"db" <daniel_burneNOSPAM@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>>so i took a chill pill but it's started to wear off... it's been over two
>>weeks and still no no limit or response from chuck. the last e-mails I
sent
>>(to paypal@greatidea.com, cduffy@ideacorporation.com) were bounced back.
>>any ideas (see below)? he's probably on holiday (and I'm just jealous!).
>>
>>ta,
>>D
>>
>>"justcron" <justcron@hydrorecords.compound> wrote:
>>>dont stress it boss... dude will get ya
>>>
>>>"db" <daniel_burneNOSPAM@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>>news:42f275e0$1@linux...
>>>>
>>>> Hi,
>>>> Just wondered if anyone has any contact details (phone / e-mail) for
>
>>>> Chuck.
>>>> I pay for NoLimit via PayPal about 10 days ago, but haven't had an e-mail
>>>> with the nolimit attachment back from him. I'm in fairly urgent need
>of
>>it
>>>> for a current project. I'm not sure how copy protection works, but perhaps
>>>> someone could e-mail me nolimit in the meantime, until chuck gets back
>>to
>>>> me. I do have a paypal receipt... MAny thanks.
>>>>
>>>> Dan
>>>
>>>
>>
>hey Deej...... if your going to audition some of these, you should
check out a Millennia pre amp. I have an STT-1 that i love for
clean, and both the compressor and Eq are very nice.
They also make a 4 channel pre amp.
If you can demo one, i would include it in the test.

mb

"DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote:
>After somewhat of a marathon tracking session over the last few days, I've
>discovered a weak link, at least for the way I'm working most of the time
>around here.
>
>Having headroom to spare without worring overly much about input overload
>has become a bit of an issue.
>
>I've got a TL Audio 2001 4 channel preamp that sounds *really* nice, but
one
>channel is going south (I think there is a problem with the voltage feeding
>one of the IC's on channel 2 because this same one keeps crapping out).
>Also, this preamp just doesn't have the headroom on the input that I need.
I
>am thinking about getting it fixed and just plugging LP's into each input
>channel. This would probably work OK, but I am finding that in these
>balls-to-the-wall tracking sessions, one undependable and/or weak link can
>really be a PITA when I've got 16-18 hot mics and I'm trying to run a
>session solo.
>
>Locating a source of distortion in the middle of a take and attenuating
>tweaking the preamp while trying to keep my head wrapped around everything
>else that's going on, like sneaky musicians grabbing the mics and moving
>them around so they are getting a sound in their cans that *they* like
>without asking me to fix it at the board, for instance is enough to make
a
>guy crazy when he's trying to ride herd on all of it.
>
>I'm thinking about getting a Sytek or maybe another Forssell JMP-6 or Great
>River MP4. I've either used these, or am familiar with them and they are
all
>majorly nice preamps. The Sytek especially is a major bang-for-the-buck
>item, but I've also been wondering about a John Hardy 4 channel, True
>Precision 8, Focusrite 428 and a Focusrite RED 1. I'm looking for
>transparency/true to the source rather than color.
>
>I'll be getting a small chunk o' change soon from a production I'm doing
>here. Anyone ever used any of the aforementioned pre's?
>
>Thanks,
>
>Deej
>
>
>
>But....read this........
If you want to find a document in XP, there's a search link in the start
menu. Once the keywords are entered, a cartoon character -- a dog, by
default -- does a little dance while the hard drive is scoured. Results
appear in seconds and they include not just text documents but pictures,
e-mails and any other type of file.

A mini search box also appears in the u
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pper right corner of every window, so
it's no longer necessary to return to the Start menu. As well, searches can
be saved as a virtual folder. When opened, such a folder will retrieve any
documents that meet the saved criteria. Files also can have keywords
attached something that will make nontext items easier to find if the time
is taken to enter descriptive words.

Mac fans are probably screaming. Yes, this is very similar to the Spotlight
function in the recent update of Mac OS X. At this stage of development,
Vista does bear a significant resemblance. .......

Windows XP has had that from day 1....I wonder if this guy has ever used XP?


--
Martin Harrington
www.lendanear-sound.com

"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:42f75839$1@linux...
>
> I guess I wasn't the only one to notice. Then again, this is nothing
> new!
>
>
> http://www.macnewsworld.com/story/7FnqZee5MaTmeq/Windows-Vis ta-Feels-Like-a-Mac.xhtmlMorgan is on vacation until the 14th. don't think he ignored this!
"Paul Artola" <artola@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:g3taf1p7r711do258csmv1tojtqa91nfjm@4ax.com...
> Well, AES will soon be back in New York. Anyone here planning to
> attend? Anyone want to get together for a Paris group dinner again?
> Those who were are the last one in 2003 can attest to the great time
> they had.
>
> In a related note, if you read this, Morgan, can you help a brother
> out with a pass to the AES Exhibits? Thanks in advance.
>
> - Paul Artola
> Ellicott City, Maryland
>I was checking AMD's websight in preperation for a new computer build (not
for me)and it says not to use thermal grease, only the pads...unless your
doing testing work. I was under the impression that artic silver was the
way to go over thermal pads. Is that wrong????
Rodinteresting man... last few builds I've done for myself I've used artic
silver exclusively.. no hassles.
AA


"Rod Lincoln" <
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silver was the
> way to go over thermal pads. Is that wrong????
> RodWe're off to the Mayo Clinic in Scottsdale Arizona tomorrow. Amy's having
some big problems. I'm praying in a pretty serious way right about now. I
need some rest to I'm posting this up and then I'm hitting the rack. It's
been a bad couple of days here. I hope I have some good news to report in a
few days. I'll likely be offline until the weekend.

DeejPrayers and good vibes coming for Amy and you DJ.Hang in there
brother.

Pete Ruthenburg


"DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote:
>We're off to the Mayo Clinic in Scottsdale Arizona tomorrow. Amy's having
>some big problems. I'm praying in a pretty serious way right about now.
I
>need some rest to I'm posting this up and then I'm hitting the rack. It's
>been a bad couple of days here. I hope I have some
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good news to report in
a
>few days. I'll likely be offline until the weekend.
>
>Deej
>
>We will be praying for Amy and you DJ. Please do keep us posted, but get
some rest and take care of her first.

May God bless you both in amazing ways.

Dedric

On 8/8/05 9:36 PM, in article 42f8246a@linux, "DJ"
<animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote:

> We're off to the Mayo Clinic in Scottsdale Arizona tomorrow. Amy's having
> some big problems. I'm praying in a pretty serious way right about now. I
> need some rest to I'm posting this up and then I'm hitting the rack. It's
> been a bad couple of days here. I hope I have some good news to report in a
> few days. I'll likely be offline until the weekend.
>
> Deej
>
>I know, that's why I used it. But that's what it says on the AMD sight. I'm
installing a Zalman CPU cooler that Chris Ludwig recomended and it doesn't
look like it has a pad, so I guess I don't have a choice.
Rod
"Aaron Allen" <nospam@not_here.dude> wrote:<
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br /> >interesting man... last few builds I've done for myself I've used artic

>silver exclusively.. no hassles.
>AA
>
>
>"Rod Lincoln" <rlincoln@kc.rr.com> wrote in message news:42f81e74$1@linux...
>>
>> I was checking AMD's websight in preperation for a new computer build
(not
>> for me)and it says not to use thermal grease, only the pads...unless your
>> doing testing work. I was under the impression that artic silver was the
>> way to go over thermal pads. Is that wrong????
>> Rod
>
>I'll be praying for you and Amy, DJ.
Rod
"DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote:
>We're off to the Mayo Clinic in Scottsdale Arizona tomorrow. Amy's having
>some big problems. I'm praying in a pretty serious way right about now.
I
>need some rest to I'm posting this up and then I'm hitting the rack. It's
>been a bad couple of days here. I hope I have some good news to report in
a
>few days. I'll likely be offline until the weekend.
>
>Deej
>
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s I don't have a choice.
> Rod
> "Aaron Allen" <nospam@not_here.dude> wrote:
>>interesting man... last few builds I've done for myself I've used artic
>
>>silver exclusively.. no hassles.
>>AA
>>
>>
>>"Rod Lincoln" <rlincoln@kc.rr.com> wrote in message
>>news:42f81e74$1@linux...
>>>
>>> I was checking AMD's websight in preperation for a new computer build
> (not
>>> for me)and it says not to use thermal grease, only the pads...unless
>>> your
>>> doing testing work. I was under the impression that artic silver was the
>>> way to go over thermal pads. Is that wrong????
>>> Rod
>>
>>
>You know you both have my best wishes and thoughts - you know how to reach
me Doug, don't be afraid to use the phone.
Peace for you both bro.
AA


"DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote in message
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> We're off to the Mayo Clinic in Scottsdale Arizona tomorrow. Amy's having
> some big problems. I'm praying in a pretty serious way right about now. I
> need some rest to I'm posting this up and then I'm hitting the rack. It's
> been a bad couple of days here. I hope I have some good news to report in
> a
> few days. I'll likely be offline until the weekend.
>
> Deej
>
>Your both in my thought, Deej.
It's about time you both had a break from all this.
Be strong, and most of all.........believe.

--
Martin Harrington
www.lendanear-sound.com

"DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote in message
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> We're off to the Mayo Clinic in Scottsdale Arizona tomorrow. Amy's having
> some big problems. I'm praying in a pretty serious way right about now. I
> need some rest to I'm posting this up and then I'm hitting the rack. It's
> been a bad couple of days here. I hope I have some good news to report in
> a
> few days. I'll likely be offline until the weekend.
>
> Deej
>
>You both have my prayers.

James

"DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote:
>We're off to the Mayo Clinic in Scottsdale Arizona tomorrow. Amy's having
>some big problems. I'm praying in a pretty serious way right about now.
I
>need some rest to I'm posting this up and then I'm hitting the rack. It's
>been a bad couple of days here. I hope I have some good news to report in
a
>few days. I'll likely be offline until the weekend.
>
>Deej
>
>Thanks for the update, Kim.


"Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>I think I've made some progress.
>
>I tried to continue installing tonight, and everything went to poop. It
BSOD'd
>about three times while I tried to install SP2, and the final time it would
>no longer boot because of a claimed disk read error, so I started again...
> fresh format...
>
>This time I had all the updates ready on the HDD before I started. I ran
>through SP1 and SP2... no probs, then loaded the latest NVIDIA graphics
>drivers, and then the MB drivers. Now, the first time it crashed when loading
>the MB drivers, but I tried again (wit
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h IE closed) and it went through fine.
>Since then it hasn't crashed once. I've installed EDS drivers, Paris and
>the effects subsystem and it seems to be running ok. I've installed all
the
>high priority Windows Updates, and am now onto the others. There's one hardware
>driver in there though and I'm not sure about that... think I'd rather
>NVIDIA's driver than MS's.
>
>Point is though it seems a lot more stable now that the latest MB drivers
>are on, so I suspect that was the issue.
>
>I don't know how much more I'll get done tonight, but I'll progress further
>during the week and keep you both posted. Fingers crossed it might be coming
>good. :o)
>
>Cheers,
>Kim.Right there with you Deej. Godspeed to you and Amy. Nothing but good wishes
for you both.

Jon

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ng the rack. It's
>been a bad couple of days here. I hope I have some good news to report in
a
>few days. I'll likely be offline until the weekend.
>
>Deej
>
>Man, that hit out of the blue... You're
on our list big time, and we're praying
for good news shortly.



"DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote:
>We're off to the Mayo Clinic in Scottsdale Arizona tomorrow. Amy's having
>some big problems. I'm praying in a pretty serious way right about now.
I
>need some rest to I'm posting this up and then I'm hitting the rack. It's
>been a bad couple of days here. I hope I have some good news to report in
a
>few days. I'll likely be offline until the weekend.
>
>Deej
>
>I have used for the last 4 years Ramtech cable and I am striving to get
that warm sound I used to get when I was using in my older studio Klotz
cable.
I am definetely sure that the cabling is responsible for that.
I get now this trebly zingy kind of sound when with Klotz I had a
flatter warmer sound.
Anyone sharing any thoughts tests on this matter ?
Any suggestion as per cable brand ?
Regards,
DimitriosMy prayers wholeheartly from me too.
Dimitrios

DJ wrote:

> We're off to the Mayo Clinic in Scottsdale Arizona tomorrow. Amy's having
> some big problems. I'm praying in a pretty serious way right about now. I
> need some rest to I'm posting this up and then I'm hitting the rack. It's
> been a bad couple of days here. I hope I have some good news to report in a
> few days. I'll likely be offline until the weekend.
>
> Deej
>
>The grease is conductive so more prone to people screwing stuff up.

The pads I always scrap off and apply thermal compound. I get better
heat reduction doing that.


Chris


Aaron Allen wrote:
> Only reason I can think of is if enough people got sloppy (and returned
> fried processors, pissed off about it) and didn't have good coverage with
> the compound, whereas the pad would have to completely cover. End user error
> IMO, but they may not want the hassles/liability of sloppy end user
> assembly.
>
> AA
>
>
> "Rod Lincoln" <rlincoln@kc.rr.com> wrote in message news:42f82755$1@lin
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ux...
>
>>I know, that's why I used it. But that's what it says on the AMD sight.
>>I'm
>>installing a Zalman CPU cooler that Chris Ludwig recomended and it doesn't
>>look like it has a pad, so I guess I don't have a choice.
>>Rod
>>"Aaron Allen" <nospam@not_here.dude> wrote:
>>
>>>interesting man... last few builds I've done for myself I've used artic
>>
>>>silver exclusively.. no hassles.
>>>AA
>>>
>>>
>>>"Rod Lincoln" <rlincoln@kc.rr.com> wrote in message
>>>news:42f81e74$1@linux...
>>>
>>>>I was checking AMD's websight in preperation for a new computer build
>>
>>(not
>>
>>>>for me)and it says not to use thermal grease, only the pads...unless
>>>>your
>>>>doing testing work. I was under the impression that artic silver was the
>>>>way to go over thermal pads. Is that wrong????
>>>>Rod
>>>
>>>
>
>

--
Chris Ludwig
ADK
chrisl@adkproaudio.com <mailto:chrisl@adkproaudio.com>
www.adkproaudio.com <http://www.adkproaudio.com/>
(859) 635-5762DImitrios <musurgio@otenet.gr> wrote:
>I have used for the last 4 years Ramtech cable and I am striving to get

>that warm sound I used to get when I was using in my older studio Klotz

>cable.
>I am definetely sure that the cabling is responsible for that.
>I get now this trebly zingy kind of sound when with Klotz I had a
>flatter warmer sound.
>Anyone sharing any thoughts tests on this matter ?
>Any suggestion as per cable brand ?
>Regards,
>Dimitrios

Mogami, Canare, Supra, Klotz - GOOD

Belden - OK

Monster, C.B.I. - Fair

Whirlwind, Proco, etc –BAD!
GeneOur thoughts are with you and Amy, Deej.

Cheers,
-Jamie
http://www.JamieKrutz.com


DJ wrote:
> We're off to the Mayo Clinic in Scottsdale Arizona tomorrow. Amy's having
> some big problems. I'm praying in a pretty serious way right about now. I
> need some rest to I'm posting this up and then I'm hitting the rack. It's
> been a bad couple of days here. I hope I have some good news to report in a
> few days. I'll likely be offline until the weekend.
>
> Deej
>
>sending...give amy our best.

On Mon, 8 Aug 2005 21:36:33 -0600, "DJ"
<animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote:

>We're off to the Mayo Clinic in Scottsdale Arizona tom
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orrow. Amy's having
>some big problems. I'm praying in a pretty serious way right about now. I
>need some rest to I'm posting this up and then I'm hitting the rack. It's
>been a bad couple of days here. I hope I have some good news to report in a
>few days. I'll likely be offline until the weekend.
>
>Deej
>Done.

Best to you both.

DC


"DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote:
>We're off to the Mayo Clinic in Scottsdale Arizona tomorrow. Amy's having
>some big problems. I'm praying in a pretty serious way right about now.
I
>need some rest to I'm posting this up and then I'm hitting the rack. It's
>been a bad couple of days here. I hope I have some good news to report in
a
>few days. I'll likely be offline until the weekend.
>
>Deej
>
>Used one for years. Sounds nice and the softlimit works very well.

Never A-B'd with the Paris convertors, but I am pretty sure the
AD500's are better.

BTW, Apogee is NOT supporting these in any way. No parts,
no service. I called and asked when mine broke.

DC


DImitrios <musurgio@otenet.gr> wrote:
>I wonder if you ever tried a AD500 Apogee (not the AD1000) with
>softlimit , with Paris , would that be -TODAY- an upgrade over the stock

>Paris converters ?
>I still only record at 16 bits...
>Regards,
>DimitriosThe source, receiving unit, and input/output impedance are
much more important than the cable. With mics, with proper
termination, cables don't make as big a differ
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ence as with guitars.

Having said that, recording orchestras will show you quickly that
even a little change can make a difference.

I like Cardas, Zaolla, and Mogami mic cables, but I would look at the
whole signal chain before buying an expensive cable. (the Mogami
W2549 is not expensive and is very good, the others are good but
very expensive)

Where can I find good Greek food in Los Angeles??

:-]

DC


DImitrios <musurgio@otenet.gr> wrote:
>I have used for the last 4 years Ramtech cable and I am striving to get

>that warm sound I used to get when I was using in my older studio Klotz

>cable.
>I am definetely sure that the cabling is responsible for that.
>I get now this trebly zingy kind of sound when with Klotz I had a
>flatter warmer sound.
>Anyone sharing any thoughts tests on this matter ?
>Any suggestion as per cable brand ?
>Regards,
>DimitriosHehe,
Thanks for recommendation...
Greek food in LA could be found in my uncle's house who lives in LA...
But I guess after so many years and married to a Chinese probably he is
eating hot dogs and cats...
I can also send some cooked ones from here.
Cheers,
Regards,
Dimitrios

DC wrote:
> The source, receiving unit, and input/output impedance are
> much more important than the cable. With mics, with proper
> termination, cables don't make as big a difference as with guitars.
>
> Having said that, recording orchestras will show you quickly that
> even a little change can make a difference.
>
> I lik
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e Cardas, Zaolla, and Mogami mic cables, but I would look at the
> whole signal chain before buying an expensive cable. (the Mogami
> W2549 is not expensive and is very good, the others are good but
> very expensive)
>
> Where can I find good Greek food in Los Angeles??
>
> :-]
>
> DC
>
>
> DImitrios <musurgio@otenet.gr> wrote:
>
>>I have used for the last 4 years Ramtech cable and I am striving to get
>
>
>>that warm sound I used to get when I was using in my older studio Klotz
>
>
>>cable.
>>I am definetely sure that the cabling is responsible for that.
>>I get now this trebly zingy kind of sound when with Klotz I had a
>>flatter warmer sound.
>>Anyone sharing any thoughts tests on this matter ?
>>Any suggestion as per cable brand ?
>>Regards,
>>Dimitrios
>
>Really sad to hear. All fingers crossed here dude. Here's hopin'...

Cheers,
Kim.

"DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote:
>We're off to the Mayo Clinic in Scottsdale Arizona tomorrow. Amy's having
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/> >some big problems. I'm praying in a pretty serious way right about now.
I
>need some rest to I'm posting this up and then I'm hitting the rack. It's
>been a bad couple of days here. I hope I have some good news to report in
a
>few days. I'll likely be offline until the weekend.
>
>Deej
>
>My thoughts are with you both as well.



"DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote:
>We're off to the Mayo Clinic in Scottsdale Arizona tomorrow. Amy's having
>some big problems. I'm praying in a pretty serious way right about now.
I
>need some rest to I'm posting this up and then I'm hitting the rack. It's
>been a bad couple of days here. I hope I have some good news to report in
a
>few days. I'll likely be offline until the weekend.
>
>Deej
>
>"DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote:
>We're off to the Mayo Clinic in Scottsdale Arizona tomorrow. Amy's having
>some big problems. I'm praying in a pretty serious way right about now.
I
>need some rest to I'm posting this up and then I'm hitting the rack. It's
>been a bad couple of days here. I hope I have some good news to report in
a
>few days. I'll likely be offline until the weekend.
>
>Deej
>
>
Sorry to hear of it Deej...you and Amy will be in my prayers. Keep us posted...

TommyYou, your wife and family are in my prayers, starting now.
MR

"DJ" <
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rget="_blank">animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote:
>We're off to the Mayo Clinic in Scottsdale Arizona tomorrow. Amy's having
>some big problems. I'm praying in a pretty serious way right about now.
I
>need some rest to I'm posting this up and then I'm hitting the rack. It's
>been a bad couple of days here. I hope I have some good news to report in
a
>few days. I'll likely be offline until the weekend.
>
>Deej
>
>"DC" <DC@steenkingbadgers.com> wrote:
>
>Where can I find good Greek food in Los Angeles??

Greek food in L.A.? Man, I don't think I've EVER seen a Greek
restaurant there. L.A.'s idea of a Greek salad is when four
guys hold you down & shove lettuce up your ass. lolBest wishes for a good outcome, Deej. Hang in there.

Neil


"DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote:
>We're off to the Mayo Clinic in Scottsdale Arizona tomorrow. Amy's having
>some big problems. I'm praying in a pretty serious way right about now.
I
>need some rest to I'm posting this up and then I'm hitting the rack. It's
>been a bad couple of days here. I hope I have some good news to report in
a
>few days. I'll likely be offline until the weekend.
>
>Deej
>
>Well there you go, thanks a bunch guys.
Rod
Chris Ludwig <chrisl@adkproaudio.com> wrote:
>The grease is conductive so more prone to people screwing stuff up.
>
>The pads I always scrap off and apply thermal compound. I get better
>heat reduction doing that.
>
>
>Chris
>
>
>Aaron Allen wrote:
>> Only reason I can think of is if enough people got sloppy (and returned

>> fried processors, pissed off about it) and didn't have good coverage with

>> the compound, whereas the pad would have to completely cover. End user
error
>> IMO, but they may not want the hassles/liability of sloppy end user
>> assembly.
>>
>> AA
>>
>>
>> "Rod Lincoln" <rlincoln@kc.rr.com> wrote in message news:42f82755$1@linux...
>>
>>>I know, that's why I used it. But that's what it says on the AMD sight.

>>>I'm
>>>installing a Zalman CPU cooler that Chris Ludwig recomended and it doesn't
>>>look like it has a pad, so I guess I don't have a choice.
>>>Rod
>>>"Aaron Allen" <nospam@not_here.dude> wrote:
>>>
>>>>interesting man... last few builds I've done for myself I've used artic
>>>
>>>>silver exclusively.. no hassles.
>>>>AA
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>"Rod Lincoln" <rlincoln@kc.rr.com> wrote in message
>>>>news:42f81e74$1@linux...
>>>>
>>>>>I was checking AMD's websight in preperation for a new computer build
>>>
>>>(not
>>>
>>>>>for me)and it says not to use thermal grease, only the pads...unless

>>>>>your
>>>>>doing testing work. I was under the impression that artic silver was
the
>>>>>way to go over thermal pads. Is that wrong????
>>>>>Rod
>>>>
>>>>
>>
>>
>
>--
>Chris Ludwig
>ADK
>chrisl@adkproaudio.com <mailto:chrisl@adkproaudio.com>
>www.adkproaudio.com <http://www.adkproaudio.com/>
>(859) 635-5762Thanks, man...I just finished wiping coffee off my monitor.
rod
"Neil" <OIUOIU@OIU.com> wrote:
>
>"DC" <DC@steenkingbadgers.com> wrote:
>>
>>Where can I find good Greek food in Los Angeles??
>
>Greek food in L.A.? Man, I don't think I've EVER seen a Greek
>restaurant there. L.A.'s idea of a Greek salad is when four
>guys hold you down & shove lettuce up your ass. lol
>
>
>
>
>
>As the usual lurker observer I am compelled to w
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ref="mailto:DC@steenkingbadgers.com" target="_blank">DC@steenkingbadgers.com> wrote:
find good Greek food in Los Angeles??

Papa Cristo's 2771 W. Pico Blvd.

Great Greek 13362 Ventura Blvd. (in the valley)

Delphi Greek Cuisine 1383 Westwood Blvd.

There are others......Sorry to hear this, DJ -- hope it all works out for you.

-- Chas.


On Mon, 8 Aug 2005 21:36:33 -0600, "DJ"
<animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote:

>We're off to the Mayo Clinic in Scottsdale Arizona tomorrow. Amy's having
>some big problems. I'm praying in a pretty serious way right about now. I
>need some rest to I'm posting this up and then I'm hitting the rack. It's
>been a bad couple of days here. I hope I have some good news to report in a
>few days. I'll likely be offline until the weekend.
>
>Deej
>Sorry to hear this, we're lifting you up in prayer also.

michael bliss

"DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote:
>We're off to the Mayo Clinic in Scottsdale Arizona tomorrow. Amy's having
>some big problems. I'm praying in a pretty serious way right about now.
I
>need some rest to I'm posting this up and then I'm hitting the rack. It's
>been a bad couple of days here. I hope I have some good news to report in
a
>few days. I'll likely be offline until the weekend.
>
>Deej
>
>Thanks!


DC


"Gary Flanigan" <gary_flanigan@ce9.uscourts.gov> wrote:
>
>"DC" <DC@steenkingbadgers.com> wrote:
>find good Greek food in Los Angeles??
>
>Papa Cristo's 2771 W. Pico Blvd.
>
>Great Greek 13362 Ventura Blvd. (in the valley)
>
>Delphi Greek Cuisi
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ne 1383 Westwood Blvd.
>
>There are others......No, silly. That's West Hollywood.

What do you do when you drop your wallet on Santa Monica Blvd?

Kick it...

all the way to the beach...




"Neil" <OIUOIU@OIU.com> wrote:
>
>"DC" <DC@steenkingbadgers.com> wrote:
>>
>>Where can I find good Greek food in Los Angeles??
>
>Greek food in L.A.? Man, I don't think I've EVER seen a Greek
>restaurant there. L.A.'s idea of a Greek salad is when four
>guys hold you down & shove lettuce up your ass. lol
>
>
>
>
>
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DJ,
I rarely pray but this time I'm giving you two a double.
Tom
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Sorry to hear this, we're lifting you up in prayer also.=20

michael bliss

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>We're off to the Mayo Clinic in Scottsdale Arizona tomorrow. Amy's =
having
>some big problems. I'm praying in a pretty serious way right about =
now.
I
>need some rest to I'm posting this up and then I'm hitting the rack. =
It's
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a
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>
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------=_NextPart_000_007C_01C59CF2.E87CD140--Hello fellow Parisites.........
I just completed restoring an Ampex MM1200, now what to do?
Iam running PARIS with two EDS cards Iam going to sync them
has anyone had any experience with this type of set up and what
are you doing? Rerecording your anolog tracks in Paris? or
syncing them and playing back all together. By the way Ive been
recording on PARIS for over 5yrs with good results but hearing
wide band analog t
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racks reminds me of what music was when I was
growing up. It's a shame whats happened to our industry... oh
well thats another story.
Thanx again
Dominic
Sanctuary StudiosSorry to hear about Amy. I'll be thinking and praying for you both.

David LYeah, I picked up the desk calendar last year and put it in the studio.
It's still a great read.

David L

On 7-Aug-2005, "Markus Stone" <markusm@alphalink.com.au> wrote:

> http://www.kissthisguy.com/
>
> It's all about misheard song lyrics - way funny!
>
> -MarkusI've been looking at picking up one of the Myteks and then using a
distribution amp. I know a couple of you are running this config.
Question is, do you lose the Mytek's accuracy passing the clock through
a less accurate distribution box like a lucid Genx? Are they simply
repeating the signal without affecting it, and if so, how is that better
than a properly terminated chain off the mytek out?

JHMy prayers are with you and Amy.. LaMont




"DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote:
>We're off to the Mayo Clinic in Scottsdale Arizona tomorrow. Amy's having
>some big problems. I'm praying in a pretty serious way right about now.
I
>need some rest to I'm posting this up and then I'm hitting the rack. It's
>been a bad couple of days here. I hope I have some good news to report in
a
>few days. I'll likely be offline until the weekend.
>
>Deej
>
>Thanks everyone. Amy isn't up for a 9 hour drive today so we've regrouped
and are flying out to Phoenix in the morning. I have read all the posts and
I appreciate them all. I've been scurrying around suince yesterday trying to
arrange to keep the boat afloat while we're gone and I'm just about there.
I'm not sure when we'll be back but hopefully it will be a short visit.

You guys are the best,

Deej

"DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote in message
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> We're off to the Mayo Clinic in Scottsdale Arizona tomorrow. Amy's having
> some big problems. I'm praying in a pretty serious way right about now. I
> need some rest to I'm posting this up and then I'm hitting the rack. It's
> been a bad couple of days here. I hope I have some good news to report in
a
> few days. I'll likely be offline until the weekend.
>
> Deej
>
>Jeff,

I'm outputting my Mytek A/D 24/96 to the clock input of a Lucid GenX6. When
it is set to distro mode, it just passes the clock signal that is feeding
it. For instance, the GenX6 only operates at 44.1 or 48kHz, but when set to
be a distribution amp, it can amplify and distribute 96kHz clock from my
Mytek.

Hope this helps,

Deej

"Jeff hoover" <jkhoover@excite.com> wrote in message news:42f91bae@linux...
> I've been looking at picking up one of the Myteks and then using a
> distribution amp. I know a couple of you are running this config.
> Question is, do you lose the Mytek's accuracy passing the clock through
> a less accurate distribution box like a lucid Genx? Are they simply
> repeating the signal without affecting it, and if so, how is that better
> than a properly terminated chain off the mytek out?
>
> JHSorry to hear Amy's feeling unwell, but at least you can add my prayers now...

Love,
bc


In article <42f92260$1@linux>, "DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote:

> Thanks everyone. Amy isn't up for a 9 hour drive today so we've regrouped
> and are flying out to Phoenix in the
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morning. I have read all the posts and
> I appreciate them all. I've been scurrying around suince yesterday trying to
> arrange to keep the boat afloat while we're gone and I'm just about there.
> I'm not sure when we'll be back but hopefully it will be a short visit.
>
> You guys are the best,
>
> Deej
>
> "DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote in message
> news:42f8246a@linux...
> > We're off to the Mayo Clinic in
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r /> Man count thy days,
and if perchance they fly too fast,
for thy dull thoughts to count,
count every day thy last.

Henton Londini - Anno Dom 1605

"Jason Miles" <Jmiles45@aol.com> wrote in message news:42f194d2$1@linux...
>
> Don't know whether anybody here lives in NY or Philly
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songs from My Cd Miles to MIles,
> In the Spirit of Miles Davis (recorded and mixed on Paris)
> 35 west 67th street
> also At The World Cafe Live in Phil,Pa on August 17th. The band is
> totally Killer with the best musicians that We have in NYC
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