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| Re: My evolving position on the Paris sound vs. PT. [message #66730 is a reply to message #66713] |
Fri, 14 April 2006 21:40   |
Jesse Skeens
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one wants to admitt it, but those Mac users who are running
Logic
>>> version 7.x, now realize that unless they are using a Dual G5(2.7) or
>Quads,
>>> then using logic 7.x is not as smooth as advertised. It pains me to se
>friend
>>> run out and buy Powerbooks in hopes of "emualting" a Dual G5 performance,
>>> only to experience "bandwidth" chokes, or worse, stalled , slow performance.
>>>
>>>
>>> Oh yeah, you can throw MOTU in with apple. All of the above applies to
>them
>>> as well.. Bottom line, these days, even with pirating, it's just not
good
>>> business to not develope for the PC market. Being alogn time owner/user
>>> of Logic Audio & a Licensed Owner of Digital Performer, I want to see
>both
>>> apps stay in the game. But, as time goes on, both apps are dwindling
i
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| Re: My evolving position on the Paris sound vs. PT.-Reality check [message #66732 is a reply to message #66704] |
Fri, 14 April 2006 22:03 |
JD
Messages: 15
Registered: July 2005
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ndwise it would have been worth the
trouble
>>>> but it was
>>>> completely unusable in a commercial environment because of non-stability
>>>> and
>>>> anomalies.
>>>>> To see if your system shows the problem, record some soft synth tracks,
>>>>> put your sequence in cycle mode and let it play for a while. Randomly
>
>>>>> the bug causes soft synths to start dropping out. It could happen within
>>>>> a few minutes or it could happen in an hour. It seems random. I've
seen
>>>>> all the soft synths stop playing eventually, and they will also stop
>>>
>>>>> playing in response to MIDI input. This happens with Logic 5, 6 and
>7,
>>>
>>>>> and perhaps 4. It happens with Logic's own soft synths and with 3rd
>
>>>>> party soft synths.
>>>> On a regular base I use all the Logic synths and stuff like RMX, Atmosphere,
>>>> EW Symphonic Orchestra Platinum, guitar rig, boesendorfer etc and a
few
>>> tracks
>>>>from Melodyne through the melodyne bridge and again I must say that I
>never
>>>> experienced what you described on the G5 2.7. Of course on the PB it's
>another
>>>> story. For instance, I could have 3 guitar tracks running with guitar
>rig
>>>> 1 with
>>>> no problem. With version 2 not even one is possible without Core audio
>spitting
>>>> at
>>>> me. This is a real CPU demanding plug in of which I can insert as many
>as
>>>> I like
>>>> on the dual G5 (love that machine) but on the PB.... forget it. That's
>why
>>>> I will
>>>> get a Macbook but since I've always been a "first generation" buyer
(and
>>>> most of the
>>>> time regretted) I will now wait till the next model comes. I only hope
>I
>>>> won' get
>>>> impatient. Also most of the 3rd party plugins developpers have not written
>>>> their universal driver yet so...
>>>>
>>>>> It was reported to be less frequent with Logic 7.2 but still there.
>I
>>>>> didn't originally do the "crossgrade" from 7.1 to 7.2 because it's
>>>>> mostly about running on Intel and I don't have an Intel Mac. But I've
>
>>>>> ordered it now because this new 7.2.1 update requires 7.2.
>>>> Exactly my thoughts though in the end there were two good reasons to
>do
>>> the
>>>> crossgrade: 1. Compatability with PT 7 and 2. the possiblilty to use
>Serato
>>>> LE
>>>> as soon it comes out (planned for the end of Mai I think). When I first
>>> played
>>>> a song after installing 7.2 I didn't have any sound coming out of my
>Mobile
>>>> 2882
>>>> interface, but the meters on the output were crancked up to the ceiling.
>>>> My first
>>>> reaction:WTF..... but fortunately the guys at Metric Halo have been
very
>>>> busy and
>>>> released already end February the Universal version of their MIO driver.
>>>> After install
>>>> smiling all over the place.
>>>> Anyway, I will try to reproduce the "dropping out" issue and if I find
>any,
>>>> I'll let you know. Even if from time to time small bugs come to the
surface,(which
>>>> app doesn't
>>>> have them) I would recommand Logic to everyone who want to take their
>audio
>>>> and postproductions many steps forward.
>>>>
>>>> Greetings,
>>>>
>>>> Ab
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>> -Jamie
>>>>> http://www.JamieKrutz.com
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Ab wrote:
>>>>>> After a few years of intensively using Logic, I didn't even know what
>>>> they
>>>>>> were
>>>>>> talking about when I saw this "softsynths dropping out" fix in 7.2.1
>>>>>> It never happened to me running Logic on a dual G5 2.7 5gig Ram nor
>>>>>> on my PB G4 1.5 2gig Ram. Still I installed 7.2 beginning of this
week
>>>> and
>>>>>> 7.2.1
>>>>>> today and everything seems at least to be as healthy as before. Happy
>>>> Logic
>>>>>> user!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Greetings
>>>>>> Ab
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Jamie K <Meta@Dimensional.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> After YEARS of specific neglect, it looks like my top Logic bug may
>>> have
>>>>>>> finally bit the dust.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Here's the list of fixes in Logic 7.2.1, just out:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -Intel Macs: ReWire and ReCycle support, Standard MIDI file export,
>>> OMF
>>>>>>> import, VSL EXS instrument compatibility
>>>>>>> -Blank Sample Editor window in some circumstances
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> BLINK
>>>>>>> -----> -Unexpected halt of software instrument output <-----
>>>>>>> BLINK
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -Compatibility with Logic 7.1 songs
>>>>>>> -Direct playback of MP3 files
>>>>>>> -EuCon support for the Euphonix MC and CM408T control surfaces
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I've complained here about the "software instruments dropping out
>at
>>>>>>> random" problem. It has kept me from enthusiastically recommending
>Logic
>>>>>>> even though overall the program is very good.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I'll still have to order the $50 update to see if it's really fixed.
>>>> If
>>>>>>> it is....WOOEEEE! (and it's about @#$@# time...)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>> -Jamie
>>>>>>> http://www.JamieKrutz.com
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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| Re: My evolving position on the Paris sound vs. PT. [message #66886 is a reply to message #66719] |
Sun, 16 April 2006 08:40 |
Rod Lincoln
Messages: 883
Registered: September 2005
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t;friends
> >> >> > and
> >> >> >> >>> I remind her of that quite often. I knew he had been sick but
> >> >hadn't
> >> >> >> >> emailed
> >> >> >> >>> him in a few years. He also gave me advice as a writer that
> was
> >> >> >> >>> extremely
> >> >> >> >>> useful--don't keep copies of everything you write, because
most
> >> of
> >> >it
> >> >> >> >> isn't
> >> >> >> >>> that good and if you need to you can always find a copy of it
> >> >later.
> >> >> > It
> >> >> >> >> will
> >> >> >> >>> just clutter up your house.
> >> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >> >>> Sad that he is now where we all some day shall be,
> >> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >> >>> TCB
> >> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >> >>> "DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote:
> >> >> >> >>>> I was futs forwared an e-mail that was sent to a mutual
friend
> >> by
> >> >> >> >> Steven's
> >> >> >> >>>> wife and forwarded to me, as follows:
> >> >> >> >>>> _______________________________________________
> >> >> >> >>>> "Steven died in his sleep early this morning after a couple
> of
> >> >truly
> >> >> >> >>>> peaceful days. He woke once, Thursday evening, and found
> >himself
> >> >> >> >>>> surrounded by friends and family. He talked sleepily with
all
> >> of
> >> >us,
> >> >> >> >>>> understood he was deeply loved, and told us he had been
flying
> >> in
> >> >a
> >> >> >> >>>> wonderful and amazing place without pain. He woke again
early
> >> >Friday
> >> >> >> >>>> morning and was as clear, strong, and aware as he had been
> in
> >> his
> >> >> >> >>>> healthiest days. He told me he had been in "a place
beautiful
> >> >beyond
> >> >> >> >>>> my life," told me he wanted to die and go back there, and
fell
> >> >into
> >> >> >> >>>> a
> >> >> >> >>>> final sleep.
> >> >> >> >>>>
> >> >> >> >>>> The world is a poorer place without him. Please carry him in
> >your
> >> >> >> >>>> thoughts, hearts, and prayers.
> >> >> >> >>>>
> >> >> >> >>>> Thank you all for being there for him and for me."
> >> >> >> >>>> ______________________________________________
> >> >> >> >>>>
> >> >> >> >>>> DJ
> >> >> >> >>>>
> >> >> >> >>>>
> >> >> >> >>>>
> >> >> >> >>>>
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
> >
> >
>Wow!!!......be sure to tell him hi for me. I haven't seen him since around
1968 or thereabouts. We weren't real close pals, but he would probably
remember me. He was in a band called The Crowd Plus One. The band I was in
at the time was named the Restless Set. Great names......eh? We were managed
by the Beard Bros. management at the time and played all the "(you name it)
A Go-Go" venues back in the mid 60's in north central Texas. One of the
coolsst gigs was back in '67 when all of the Beard Bros bands got to open
for the touring acts at a big shindig in Ft. Worth at the Round Up Inn that
was sponsored by KFJZ radio. Our band opened for the Doors. Other bands
there were The Grass Roots, Standells.......and heck, I can't remember all
of 'em.....o'yeah.....who did Hang On Sloopy???....The McCoys. That
guitarist blew me away. I think it was Rick Derringer. We were all so young
back then.......and I'm so old now. the Criowd Plus One and the Restless Set
always opened for acts that they brought into their club in Ft. Worth called
"The Box" We led off for the Music Machine (Remember Talk Talk?) , The Left
Banke (Just Walk Away Renee')...etc. It was a hell of a lot of fun to be a
teenager with a guitar..
;o)
"John Macy" <spamlessjohn@Johnmacy.com> wrote in message
news:44611c2d$1@linux...
>
> DJ--
>
> I have conversing with Dean a lot over the last year
> as he has become a steel player this year (man, does
> he adapt quick--he was playing it on several tunes on
> the Crosby/Nash European tour last year after only a
> few month on the instrument). I got to spend a good
> deal of time with him in March at the Dallas Steel Guitar
> show, and he was a joy to hang with--very humble and warm
> with a lot of great stories. He is posting fairly often
> on the steel forum (www.steelguitarforum.com). I'll let him
> know you're around over here.... :)
>
> Wow, his allmusic.com credit list is absolutely astounding...
>
>
>
> "DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote:
> >Hmmmm.........I don't know.........I just noticed Dean Parks on the list
> of
> >credits. Dean and I went to high school together. We played in bands that
> >were under the same management in the 60's so we were often opening shows
> >for each other's band and for other national touring acts that came
through
> >the Dallas area.
> >He was a year ahead of me in age and about a million miles ahead of me in
> >talent. I learned some of my first very chops from Dean. Amazing player.
> >
> >;o)
> >
> >
> >
> >"John" <no@no.com> wrote in message news:44606b9f$1@linux...
> >>
> >> I wonder what he did?
> >>
> >> http://www.allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=amg&sql=10:1ejqoaua bijv~T2
> >>
> >> "DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote:
> >> >Hi Cron,
> >> >
> >> >He might have been a session player......I don't know. Is there
someone
> >> on
> >> >the credits named Steven Marshall by chance. That would be him.
> >> >
> >> >BTW, here's a link that references his connection to that album,
though
> >> >vaguely.
> >> >
> >> > http://www.nytimes.com/library/magazine/home/20001203mag-hit t.html
> >> >
> >> >Notice the board behind him. I asked him once what kind of board he
used
> >> and
> >> >he replied that he used a custom modded Midas. I wonder if that's the
> >sound
> >> >we're hearing in Paris..............maybe the DSP is modelled on this
> >> >board???
> >> >
> >> >Deej
> >> >
> >> >"justcron" <paris@hydrorecords.com> wrote in message
> >news:445fd151@linux...
> >> >> I didn't want to disrespect the RIP thread with this question but I
> >didn't
> >> >> really get the reference.
> >> >>
> >> >> SSC is uncredited on Stevie Wonder's album? I guess he Executive
> >> >Produced
> >> >> everything I ever recorded...
> >> >>
> >> >> "DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote in message
> >> >> news:445fc91d@linux...
> >> >> >I know that Songs In The Key Of Life is part of his discography.
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> > "justcron" <paris@hydrorecords.com> wrote in message
> >> >> > news:445fc5bd$1@linux...
> >> >> >> yeah right.. so wheres our fuckin MME drivers?
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> :)
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> RIP
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> "John" <no@no.com> wrote in message news:445faf4d@linux...
> >> >> >> > SSC was always very interesting to listen to and I really
enjoyed
> >> his
> >> >> > Mix
> >> >> >> > article immensely. What an amazing life really. I think Paris
> is
> >> >more
> >> >> >> > important than homeland security though and wish he could have
> >> >> >> > recruited
> >> >> >> > Skunk Baxter over to Paris, It would have been a natural.
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > Was it just me or did you all perceive that SSC had a huge
> >spiritual
> >> >> >> > energy. He just seemed very connected somehow. Maybe it was
> >having
> >> >> > cash
> >> >> >> > that helped. hehe. I'm sure Edmund and others are mourning
> the
> >> >loss
> >> >> > of
> >> >> >> > a very close and dear friend. I'm reminded of Mr. Eddie Kramer
> of
> >> >> > Hendrix
> >> >> >> > fame who I met and recalled that he was still mourning the loss
> 30
> >> >> >> > years
> >> >> >> > later. Life is TOO real.
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > I recall SSC saying he worked on a famous movie soundtrack
> >(probably
> >> >> >> > many), so does anyone recall what music he was involved in
> >regarding
> >> >> >> > mixing and such? Was he into cowbell? :-) I would be
> >interested.
> >> >> >> > It's
> >> >> > a
> >> >> >> > shame that I didn't know while he was here.
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > John
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > DJ wrote:
> >> >> >> >> I shared a number of posts with him about sport cars. He had
> a
> >great
> >> >> >> >> story
> >> >> >> >> about how he won a Lamborghini Countach shooting craps in
Monaco.
> >> >> >> >> Maybe
> >> >> >> >> that
> >> >> >> >> was the one he was dangling in front of your date ????
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> ;o)
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> "TCB" <nobody@ishere.com> wrote in message
> >news:445f9fce$1@linux...
> >> >> >> >>> This is quite sad. I'm not sure how much of what SSC said SSC
> >did
> >> >was
> >> >> >> >> actually
> >> >> >> >>> done by SSC, and I'm not even sure if SSC was always clear on
> >that,
> >> >> > but
> >> >> >> >>> if
> >> >> >> >>> he did 15% of it he lived larger than most. My favorite SSC
> >> >> > interaction
> >> >> >> >>> by
> >> >> >> >>> far was at the 1999 or 2000 NAMM show where he blatantly,
> >> >> >> >>> shamelessly,
> >> >> >> >> tauntingly,
> >> >> >> >>> and very nearly successfully tried to hijack my date. Right
> in
> >> >front
> >> >> > of
> >> >> >> >> me.
> >> >> >> >>> She resisted until she heard about the drive up highway 101
> in
> >> the
> >> >> >> >>> Italian
> >> >> >> >>> sports car, at which point she started to waver. We're still
> >> >friends
> >> >> > and
> >> >> >> >>> I remind her of that quite often. I knew he had been sick but
> >> >hadn't
> >> >> >> >> emailed
> >> >> >> >>> him in a few years. He also gave me advice as a writer that
> was
> >> >> >> >>> extremely
> >> >> >> >>> useful--don't keep copies of everything you write, because
most
> >> of
> >> >it
> >> >> >> >> isn't
> >> >> >> >>> that good and if you need to you can always find a copy of it
> >> >later.
> >> >> > It
> >> >> >> >> will
> >> >> >> >>> just clutter up your house.
> >> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >> >>> Sad that he is now where we all some day shall be,
> >> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >> >>> TCB
> >> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >> >>> "DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote:
> >> >> >> >>>> I was futs forwared an e-mail that was sent to a mutual
friend
> >> by
> >> >> >> >> Steven's
> >> >> >> >>>> wife and forwarded to me, as follows:
> >> >> >> >>>> _______________________________________________
> >> >> >> >>>> "Steven died in his sleep early this morning after a couple
> of
> >> >truly
> >> >> >> >>>> peaceful days. He woke once, Thursday evening, and found
> >himself
> >> >> >> >>>> surrounded by friends and family. He talked sleepily with
all
> >> of
> >> >us,
> >> >> >> >>>> understood he was deeply loved, and told us he had been
flying
> >> in
> >> >a
> >> >> >> >>>> wonderful and amazing place without pain. He woke again
early
> >> >Friday
> >> >> >> >>>> morning and was as clear, strong, and aware as he had been
> in
> >> his
> >> >> >> >>>> healthiest days. He told me he had been in "a place
beautiful
> >> >beyond
> >> >> >> >>>> my life," told me he wanted to die and go back there, and
fell
> >> >into
> >> >> >> >>>> a
> >> >> >> >>>> final sleep.
> >> >> >> >>>>
> >> >> >> >>>> The world is a poorer place without him. Please carry him in
> >your
> >> >> >> &g
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