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MUHAHAHA!!!!!! [message #90832] Sun, 30 September 2007 17:46 Go to next message
DJ is currently offline  DJ   FRANCE
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> >=3D3D3D
> > > >still=3D3D3D20
> > > > it's not =3D3D3D3D<BR>>working.<BR>> >Mike A. suggested
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> >=3D3D3D
> > > >the .ini=3D
and here's the potential mobo..... [message #90834 is a reply to message #90832] Sun, 30 September 2007 17:48 Go to previous messageGo to next message
DJ is currently offline  DJ   FRANCE
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> > > >wrote in=3D3D3D20
> > > > message =3D3D3D3D3D<BR>> =3D3D3D20
> > > > >news:inqgh393an5s4m99qcaojn09vn112t4u6r@4ax.com...<BR>>
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Re: and here's the potential mobo..... [message #90836 is a reply to message #90834] Sun, 30 September 2007 19:23 Go to previous messageGo to next message
laMont [2] is currently offline  laMont [2]
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gt;arpegio@comcast.net</A>><BR>=
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> >=3D3D3D=3D3D
> > >
> > > >bsp;=3D3D3D20
> > > > > wrote:<BR>> ><BR>> > >I =3D3D3D
> > > >thought I=3D3D3D20
> > > > was groovin' but once the second Mec was introduced<BR>>
=
>=3D
> >=3D3D3D
> > > >> =3D3D3D20
> > > > >the system stopped. That was a few weeks ago.<BR>> =
>=3D3D3D20
> > > > > ><BR>> > >Today I tried different =3D3D3D
> > > >cables,=3D3D3D20
> > > > eds cards, mecs, eliminated the =3D3D3D3D<BR>>magma<BR>>
=
>=3D
> >=3D3D3D
> > > >=3D3D3D3D3D<BR>> =3D3D3D20
> > > > >and<BR>> > >still no clock lock or modules =3D3D3D
> > >
Re: and here's the potential mobo..... [message #90837 is a reply to message #90834] Sun, 30 September 2007 19:45 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Dedric Terry is currently offline  Dedric Terry   UNITED STATES
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>showing up=3D3D3D20
> > > > in the paris patchbay.<BR>> > ><BR>> =3D3D3D
> > > >> =3D3D3D20
> > > > >This means to me software unless someone tells =
>me=3D3D3D20
> > > > differently.<BR>> > ><BR>> > =3D3D3D
> > > >>I have=3D3D3D20
> > > > a new C drive which I will load XP and no pace. =
>Any=3D3D3D20
> > > > =3D3D3D3D<BR>>other=3D3D3D3D3D20&l
Re: and here's the potential mobo..... [message #90838 is a reply to message #90837] Sun, 30 September 2007 19:47 Go to previous messageGo to next message
DJ is currently offline  DJ   FRANCE
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t;BR>> > =3D3D3D
> > > >>suggestions?<BR>> =3D3D3D20
> > > > > ><BR>> > >More frustrated than my=3D3D3D20
> > > > clients,<BR>> > >Tom<BR>> > =3D3D3D20
> > > > ><BR>> > ><BR>> > =3D3D3D
> > > >><BR>> =3D3D3D20
> > > > > ><BR>> > >I choose Polesoft =3D3D3D
> > > >Lockspam to=3D3D3D20
> > > > fight spam, and you?<BR>> > =3D3D3D20
> > > > >http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html =3D3D3D3D3D20<BR>> =
>=3D
> >=3D3D3D20
> > > > ><BR>> ><BR>> ><!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC=3D3D3D20
> >
Re: and here's the potential mobo..... [message #90841 is a reply to message #90838] Sun, 30 September 2007 20:21 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Tom Bruhl is currently offline  Tom Bruhl   UNITED STATES
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=3D3D3D
> > > >involved.=3D3D3D20
> > > > Paris =3D3D3D3D<BR>>=3D3D3D3D3D<BR>> >boots up so =
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> > > >the=3D3D3D3D3D20<BR>> >1=3D3D3D20
> > > > mec that</FONT></DIV><BR>> =3D3D3D
> > > >><DIV><FONT=3D3D3D20
> > > > face=3D3D3D3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D3D3D3D2>I'm using shows
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>up but
> =3D
> >never =3D3D3D
> > > >any<BR>=3D3D3D3D<BR>>A to=3D3D3D20
> > > > =3D3D3D3D3D<BR>> >Ds or any=3D3D3D3D3D20<BR>> =3D
> >>installed=3D3D3D20
> > > > modules.</FONT></DIV><BR>> =3D3D3D
> > > >><DIV><FONT=3D3D3D20
> > > > face=3D3D3D3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D3D3D3D2>This is the =
>same =3D
> >symptom =3D3D3D
> > > >before<BR>=3D3D3D3D<BR>>I=3D3D3D20
> > > > =3D3D3D3D3D<BR>> >repaired one of=3D3D3D3D3D20<BR>> >my
=
>=3D3D3D
> > > >mecs with=3D3D3D20
> > > > a</FONT></DIV><BR>> ><DIV><FONT=3D3D3D20
> > > > face=3D3D3D3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D3D3D3D2>new chip. The =
>clock =3D
> >light =3D3D3D
> > > >=3D3D3D3D3D<BR>> =3D3D3D20
> > > > >continues to flash=3D3D3D3D3D20<BR>> >too. Never =3D
> >locks=3D3D3D20
> > > > in.</FONT></DIV><BR>> ><DIV><FONT=3D3D3D20
> > > > face=3D3D3D3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D3D3D3D2></FONT> =3D3D3D
> > > ></DIV><BR>> =3D3D3D20
> > > > ><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3D3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D3D3D3D2>I =
>am using
> =3D
> >=3D3D3D
> > > >the simplest=3D3D3D20
> > > > setup I<BR>=3D3D3D3D<BR>>can =3D3D3D3D3D<BR>> >imagine =
>=3D3D3D
> > > >and=3D3D3D3D3D20<BR>> =3D3D3D20
> > > > >still it's not working.</FONT></DIV><BR>> =3D3D3D20
> > > > ><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3D3D3D3DArial =
>size=3D3D3D3D3D3D2>Mike A. =3D
> >=3D3D3D
> > > >suggested the=3D3D3D20
> > > > .ini file<BR>=3D3D3D3D<BR>>=3D3D3D3D3D<BR>> >to make =
>=3D3D3D
> > > >sure=3D3D3D3D3D20<BR>> =3D3D3D20
> > > > >card A is 0. I'll try that.</FONT></DIV><BR>> =3D3D3D
> > > >
> > > > ><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3D3D3D3DArial =
>size=3D3D3D3D3D3D2>Pretty =3D
> >sure =3D3D3D
> > > >it's right=3D3D3D20
> > > > but who =3D3D3D3D<BR>>=3D3D3D3D3D<BR>> =3D3D3D20
> > > > >knows?</FONT></DIV><BR>> =3D3D3D
> > > >><DIV><FONT=3D3D3D20
> > > > face=3D3D3D3D3D3DArial =3D3D3D
> > > >size=3D3D3D3D3D3D2>Thanks,</FONT></DIV><BR>> =3D3D3D20
> > > > ><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3D3D3D3DArial=3D3D3D20
> > > > size=3D3D3D3D3D3D2>Tom</FONT></DIV><BR>> =3D3D3D20
> > > > ><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3D3D3D3DArial =
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> > > > </DIV><BR>> ><DIV> </DIV><BR>> =3D3D3D20
> > > > ><DIV> </DIV><BR>> ><DIV>"rick"=3D3D3D20
> > > > <<A=3D3D3D3D3D20<BR>> >href=3D3D3D3D3D3D"<A=3D3D3D20
> > > > =3D3D3D
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Re: and here's the potential mobo..... [message #90847 is a reply to message #90841] Sun, 30 September 2007 22:16 Go to previous messageGo to next message
DJ is currently offline  DJ   FRANCE
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> > > >having=3D3D3D20
> > > > problems like this ~!!<BR>Must =3D3D3D
> > > >be<BR>=3D3D3D3D<BR>>very=3D3D3D3D20<BR>> =3D3D3D20
> > > > frustrating.<BR>Open the Paris ini file and there change
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> > > > =3D3D3D3D<BR>>mastercardoutput=3D3D3D3D20<BR>> with your
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> > > >other<BR>cards and=3D3D3D20
> > > > see what happens !!<BR>Let me=3D3D3D3D20<BR>> =3D3D3D20
> > > > know.<BR>Regards,<BR>Dimitrios<BR><BR>"Tom =3D3D3D
> > > >Bruhl"=3D3D3D20
> > > > <<A=3D3D3D3D20<BR>> href=3D3D3D3D3D"<A=3D3D3D20
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> > > >mec, no=3D3D3D20
> > > > BNC =3D3D3D3D<BR>>involved. Paris=3D3D3D3D20<BR>> boots
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> > > >the 1 mec=3D3D3D20
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> > > >with=3D3D3D20
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> > > > =3D3D3D3D<BR>>flash=3D3D3D3D20<BR>> too. Never =
>locks=3D3D3D20
> > > > in.<BR>><BR>>I am using the simplest =3D3D3D
> > > >=3D3D3D3D<BR>>setup I=3D3D3D20
> > > > can=3D3D3D3D20<BR>> imagine and still it's not =3D3D3D
> > > >working.<BR>>Mike A.=3D3D3D20
> > > > suggested the =3D3D3D3D<BR>>.ini=3D3D3D3D20<BR>> file =
>to make
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> > > >sure card A is=3D3D3D20
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> > > >.com...<BR>>&nbs=3D3D3D3D<BR>>p;=3D3D3D20
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> > > >attached in=3D3D3D20
> > > > the=3D3D3D3D20<BR>> right<BR>> =3D3D3D20
> > > > order...right?<BR>> all the cards show up=3D3D3D20
> > > > =3D3D3D3D<BR>>in=3D3D3D3D20<BR>> paris with the single =
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> > > >mec?<BR>> =3D3D3D20
> > > > how many i/o cards in each=3D3D3D3D20<BR>> =3D3D3D20
> > > > mec?<BR>><BR>><BR>> On Fri, 19 Oct =3D3D3D
> > > >2007=3D3D3D20
> > > > 00:22:39 -0400, =3D3D3D3D<BR>>"Tom=3D3D3D3D20<BR>> =3D
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> > > >;>&n</A>=3D3D3D3D<BR>>bsp;=3D3D3D3D20<BR>> =3D3D3D20
> > > > wrote:<BR>><BR>> >I thought I was groovin' =3D3D3D
> > > >but once=3D3D3D20
> > > > the =3D3D3D3D<BR>>second=3D3D3D3D20<BR>> Mec was =3D3D3D
> > > >introduced<BR>> =3D3D3D20
> > > > >the system stopped. That =3D3D3D3D<BR>>was a =3D3D3D
> > > >few=3D3D3D3D20<BR>> weeks=3D3D3D20
> > > > ago.<BR>> ><BR>> >Today I tried=3D3D3D20
> > > > =3D3D3D3D<BR>>different=3D3D3D3D20<BR>> cables, eds =
>cards, =3D
> >mecs, =3D3D3D
> > > >eliminated the=3D3D3D20
> > > > =3D3D3D3D<BR>>magma<BR>=3D3D3D3D3D<BR>>and<BR>> =3D3D3D
> > > >=3D3D3D3D20<BR>> =3D3D3D20
> > > > >still no clock lock or modules showing up in the =3D3D3D
> > > >paris=3D3D3D3D20<BR>> =3D3D3D20
> > > > patchbay.<BR>> ><BR>> >This means =3D3D3D
> > > >to me=3D3D3D20
> > > > =3D3D3D3D<BR>>software=3D3D3D3D20<BR>> unless someone =
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> >will =3D3D3D
> > > >load XP and no=3D3D3D20
> > > > pace. Any=3D3D3D3D20<BR>> other=3D3D3D3D3D20<BR>> =
>=3D3D3D20
> > > > >suggestions?<BR>> =3D3D3D3D<BR>>><BR>>=3D3D3D20
> > > > =3D3D3D3D20<BR>> >More frustrated than my =3D3D3D
> > > >clients,<BR>> =3D3D3
Re: and here's the potential mobo..... [message #90849 is a reply to message #90847] Sun, 30 September 2007 23:09 Go to previous messageGo to next message
TCB is currently offline  TCB
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kind of
crazy in about two weeks, as my wife is due with our first child (a daughter
named Ruby.) So, it'll be nice to take leave from work for a few weeks and
swap it out for little to no sleep!

As for Pärt (pronounced similarly to the fruit, "pear", with a "t" at the
end, in case you didn't know), my college roommate got me hooked. An
Estonian composer, Pärt tends to be known for his bleak soundscapes, but the
pieces featured on the Te Deum disc blend this mood with bursts of joy and
warmth as well (at times venturing near Morton Lauridsen tonal territory.)
Pärt is a big fan of using old church modes and scales as the basis for a
lot of his compositions, which give them that very old/timeless sense. It's
just good, good stuff.

Brian


"DC" <dc@spammersinhell.com> wrote in message news:4717e30f$1@linux...
>
> Hi Brian,
>
> I need that one.
>
> How have you been?
>
> DC
>
>
> "Brian Porick" <brianporick@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>Yes, I'm a huge Arvo Pärt fan! I'd highly recommend his Te Deum record.
>>
>>Brian Porick
>>
>>
>>"DC" <dc@spammersinhell.com> wrote in message news:47165461$1@linux...
>>>
>>> http://www.arkivmusic.com/classical/album.jsp?album_id=1004
>>>
>>> This was recommended to me by a friend and it is just wonderful.
>>>
>>> It manages to be both tuneful and modern
>>>
>>>
>>> (we have both kinds of music here! tuneful AND modern!)
>>>
>>> and stunning, absolutely breathtaking, beautiful, and moving.
>>>
>>> If you need a real change in your listening, get it!
>>>
>>> Man, I wish I could write music like this....
>>>
>>> DC
>>>
>>
>>
>"Brian Porick" <brianporick@hotmail.com> wrote:
>Thanks for asking, Don.
>
>I've been crazy busy at work, but I get to transition to a different kind
of
>crazy in about two weeks, as my wife is due with our first child (a daughter

>named Ruby.) So, it'll be nice to take leave from work for a few weeks
and
>swap it out for little to no sleep!

Best wishes and prayers for your wife an little one.

I can tell you there is nothing better or more wonderful than
the birth of your child. And don't believe anything your wife
says about divorce during labor!


>As for Pärt (pronounced similarly to the fruit, "pear", with a "t" at the

>end, in case you didn't know), my college roommate got me hooked. An
>Estonian composer, Pärt tends to be known for his bleak soundscapes, but
the
>pieces featured on the Te Deum disc blend this mood with bursts of joy and

>warmth as well (at times venturing near Morton Lauridsen tonal territory.)

>Pärt is a big fan of using old church modes and scales as the basis for
a
>lot of his compositions, which give them that very old/timeless sense.
It's
>just good, good stuff.

I will order it. Thanks. I need more! Funny how his name
is promounced like Neil peart in Rush.. I wonder...

Let us know how the big day goes.

DCBill L <bill@billlorentzen.com> wrote:
>That woman doesn't understand that if she had played the age card, "Oh,

>I'm so tired, I think I'm going to faint (right here in your lobby)..."

>she could have gotten the manager's attention right away, rather than a

>trip to the pokey.

Or a quick trip to the ER...

But you are right, by being dignified and well-mannered
she actually got poorer service.


>The key in situations like this is to keep your eye on what you want,
>and figure out how to make the other guy want to give it to you. Of
>course, she may have just been looking for something crazy to do, and
>she certainly found that.
>
>Don, what's your beef with Steiny?

None. I just picked them out of a hat. All companies fall down
on customer service at times. and they did for me, but it was
years ago. There's lots of other candidates....


DC"Brian Porick" <brianporick@hotmail.com> wrote:


>Pärt tends to be known for his bleak soundscapes, but the
>pieces featured on the Te Deum disc blend this mood with bursts of joy and

>warmth as well (at times venturing near Morton Lauridsen tonal territory.)

>Pärt is a big fan of using old church modes and scales as the basis for
a
>lot of his compositions, which give them that very old/timeless sense.
It's
>just good, good stuff.

BTW, do you have a particular release of Te Deum that you like?

DCI'm about to put together some new PCs for my studio and I'm undecided
between making a fan-vented box for them or making quiet PCs. I've never
done either; I always kept them in closets, but in my current studio
that is an inconvenient option.

One advantage of quiet PCs is that they will be out in the open for
access to the front, back and insides, and they will take up less space.
Building them will be more expensive, but that is a minor consideration.

A box could be used for several generations of PCs, presumably. It would
have to be big enough for at least 2 machines.

DJ, I know you go for an "open matrix" design, or in popular argot,
"going commando". How do you deal with noise?

Any suggestions/advice from those who have used either approach appreciated.HI Bill,
If you are building a new machine you can make it really quiet without
having to use a ISO box. There are allot of high quality quiet
components available that will keep machine running 30db or lower under
a full load.

Good DIY parts

CPU heatsinks-
http://www.zalman.com.tw/
Great heat sinks but the cases suck.


Cases-

Tower
Antec Performance One cases
http://www.antec.com/us/pro_en_performance1.php
very good air flow and cable management


rack mount
Chenbro
http://usa.chenbro.com/corporatesite/products_detail.php?ser no=2


Fans-
Noctua
http://www.noctua.at/main.php?show=produkte&lng=en
quiet and good CFM


Acoustical Foam
http://www.acoustiproducts.com/en/acoustipack_stnd.asp

Power supply-

Thermaltake
http://www.thermaltakeusa.com/product/Power/ToughPower/w0163 /w0163.asp

Antec-
http://www.antec.com/us/pro_p_NeoHE.php



Bill L wrote:
> I'm about to put together some new PCs for my studio and I'm undecided
> between making a fan-vented box for them or making quiet PCs. I've never
> done either; I always kept them in closets, but in my current studio
> that is an inconvenient option.
>
> One advantage of quiet PCs is that they will be out in the open for
> access to the front, back and insides, and they will take up less space.
> Building them will be more expensive, but that is a minor consideration.
>
> A box could be used for several generations of PCs, presumably. It would
> have to be big enough for at least 2 machines.
>
> DJ, I know you go for an "open matrix" design, or in popular argot,
> "going commando". How do you deal with noise?
>
> Any suggestions/advice from those who have used either approach
> appreciated.

--
Chris Ludwig

ADK Pro Audio
(859) 635-5762
www.adkproaudio.com
chrisl@adkproaudio.comHI Neil,
DRM has no effect on content that is not copy protected.
There are lots of things preventing Vista from working well with pro
audio but DRM is not one of them.


Chris


Neil wrote:
> I thought that the DRM stuff in Vista couldn't be turned off?
> If that's the case, THAT's the biggest problem with trying to
> use it as an OS for a DAW (importing files from existing
> projects done on another compute, being able to play back files
> originated on the Vista DAW on any other PC's, etc.)
>
> Neil
>
>
> "John" <no@no.com> wrote:
>> they are under the heading "XP Setup"'''
>

--
Chris Ludwig

ADK Pro Audio
(859) 635-5762
www.adkproaudio.com
chrisl@adkproaudio.comDC,

It sounds like you should try to find a way to play this sound in your
head yourself. Nothing wrong with being a band leader or producer and
getting people to do your arrangements, though. You may only need a
collaborator and then things will take off.

Good luck!

GrahamI need to pull out Bird for a few days and see if I can hear it
any better.

It could all be a dream. I played a new song to someone in a
dream a week ago, and woke up and could remember what I
did on the guitar to play it. Sooo I went and played it and
it did not sound at all like the music that came out when I did
the exact same thing in the dream...

Can we dream in open tunings?

arrgghhh!


DC


Graham Duncan <graham@grahamduncan.com> wrote:
>DC,
>
>It sounds like you should try to find a way to play this sound in your
>head yourself. Nothing wrong with being a band leader or producer and
>getting people to do your arrangements, though. You may only need a
>collaborator and then things will take off.
>
>Good luck!
>
>Graham"Chris Ludwig" <chrisl@adkproaudio.com> wrote in message
news:471cd309$1@linux...
> HI Neil,
> DR
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at Fenway.</FONT></DIV>
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>
> DJ, I know you go for an "open matrix" design, or in popular argot, "going
> commando". How do you deal with noise?
>

they are in a room about 15 feet from my mixing desk with enough various
kinds of long cabling stretching across to the door of the machine room from
the desk area to be hazardous to your health should you trip and fall.

I call the area behind my racks and desk "Jumangi"A quiet computer would do me no good at all unless I had 15' long cables
from the comp to the Magmas which sound about as loud as a small aircraft
idling in the machine room.


"Chris Ludwig" <chrisl@adkproaudio.com> wrote in message
news:471cd137@linux...
> HI Bill,
> If you are building a new machine you can make it really quiet without
> having to use a ISO box. There are allot of high quality quiet components
> available that will keep machine running 30db or lower under a full load.
>
> Good DIY parts
>
> CPU heatsinks-
> http://www.zalman.com.tw/
> Great heat sinks but the cases suck.
>
>
> Cases-
>
> Tower
> Antec Performance One cases
> http://www.antec.com/us/pro_en_performance1.php
> very good air flow and cable management
>
>
> rack mount
> Chenbro
> http://usa.chenbro.com/corporatesite/products_detail.php?ser no=2
>
>
> Fans-
> Noctua
> http://www.noctua.at/main.php?show=produkte&lng=en
> quiet and good CFM
>
>
> Acoustical Foam
> http://www.acoustiproducts.com/en/acoustipack_stnd.asp
>
> Power supply-
>
> Thermaltake
> http://www.thermaltakeusa.com/product/Power/ToughPower/w0163 /w0163.asp
>
> Antec-
> http://www.antec.com/us/pro_p_NeoHE.php
>
>
>
> Bill L wrote:
>> I'm about to put together some new PCs for my studio and I'm undecided
>> between making a fan-vented box for them or making quiet PCs. I've never
>> done either; I always kept them in closets, but in my current studio that
>> is an inconvenient option.
>>
>> One advantage of quiet PCs is that they will be out in the open for
>> access to the front, back and insides, and they will take up less space.
>> Building them will be more expensive, but that is a minor consideration.
>>
>> A box could be used for several generations of PCs, presumably. It would
>> have to be big enough for at least 2 machines.
>>
>> DJ, I know you go for an "open matrix" design, or in popular argot,
>> "going commando". How do you deal with noise?
>>
>> Any suggestions/advice from those who have used either approach
>> appreciated.
>
> --
> Chris Ludwig
>
> ADK Pro Audio
> (859) 635-5762
> www.adkproaudio.com
> chrisl@adkproaudio.comI'm considering moving to TT patch bays for more secure connectivity. Any
suggestions?

Thanks

TyroneThanks for the info Martin

Clifford


"Martin Harrington" <lendan@bigpond.net.au> wrote:
>Paris OMF was never properly implimented with all the right protocols, so
it
>rarely works, and when it does it doesn't work with every function
>available.
>--
>Martin Harrington
>Lend An Ear Sound
>Sydney Australia
>0414 913 247
>"Cliff Coulter" <coultron@att.net> wrote in message news:471a1700$1@linux...
>>
>> I am trying to export an OMF file from paris
>> It does export and open as a OMF file back into paris
>> but it will not
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open in Digital Performer 4.5
>> Does anyone have a anwser
>> Thanks
>> Clifford
>>
>Don't use them for mic lines... they will work great for line level.

David.

Tyrone Corbett wrote:
> I'm considering moving to TT patch bays for more secure connectivity. Any
> suggestions?
>
> Thanks
>
> TyroneHere's the part # we spec for the studios we design and install:

B96DC-FNLIT/E3 M2OU12B

From these guys:

http://www.bittree.com/

here's a pic:

http://www.bittree.com/productdetail.cfm?productID=111256

They use connectors on the back so you can repatch or
reconfigure those connections easily, and you can setup/change
normals from the front with jumpers under the designation strips.

Very nice stuff. Not the cheapest though. around 1100 or so.
Fantastic support.

Whatever you get, remember to use only zero-residue contact
cleaner to keep them and the cables clean. Never use contact
preservative of any kind.



DC


"Tyrone Corbett" <tyronecorbett@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>I'm considering moving to TT patch bays for more secure connectivity. Any
>suggestions?
>
>Thanks
>
>TyroneEK Sound <ask_me@nospam.net> wrote:
>Don't use them for mic lines... they will work great for line level.
>
>David.

YES! We only use gold-contact Neutrik XLR jack panels and
XLR shorty cables for mic patch bays.

DCThanks guys. All the info is much appreciated. Dc, I use to setup the ADC
bays that you use a puch tool with when I worked in TV. I liked the design
but didn't know if they were as flexible in terms of dealing with Normal,
Half Normal, etc.

Any thoughts?

Tyrone
"DC" <dc@spammersinhell.com> wrote:
>
>Here's the part # we spec for the studios we design and install:
>
>B96DC-FNLIT/E3 M2OU12B
>
>From these guys:
>
>http://www.bittree.com/
>
>here's a pic:
>
>http://www.bittree.com/productdetail.cfm?productID=111256
>
>They use connectors on the back so you can repatch or
>reconfigure those connections easily, and you can setup/change
>normals from the front with jumpers under the designation strips.
>
>Very nice stuff. Not the cheapest though. around 1100 or so.
>Fantastic support.
>
>Whatever you get, remember to use only zero-residue contact
>cleaner to keep them and the cables clean. Never use contact
>preservative of any kind.
>
>
>
>DC
>
>
>"Tyrone Corbett" <tyronecorbett@comcast.net> wrote:
>>
>>I'm considering moving to TT patch bays for more secure connectivity. Any
>>suggestions?
>>
>>Thanks
>>
>>Tyrone
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Thanks Dimitrios.
The Mastercard in the .cfg is looking for a number not a letter.
Mine always has read "0". I think that's what it supposed to be right?

I'm going to try the other computer to test the hardware one more time.
Maybe this will become the rig of choice... no pace you know and only =
one install
at C:Paris Pro. Clean from the get-go. It's an AMD 3000+ which should =
be fine.

I'll post when I learn something.
Tom



"Dimitrios" <musurgio@otenet.gr> wrote in message =
news:471c67f1$1@linux...

Hey Tom,
Paris cfg file is in Paris folder.
Just open with as a text editor and change the mastercardout to =
whichever
letter will work alright.

Next what I would do is install over the minimum setup
exe file (subsystem effects) to your new moved directory exactly !!

Then I would for sure delete from the Paris folder the default.ppj =
project
AND the untitled project.ppj to.
Let us know !
Regards,
Dimitrios
"Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>
>Mike,
>I used to use a Lucid but since all of this mess I stopped.
>I'm trying to get stable from square one with the least amount=3D20
>of hardware. I am using the default project for sure. The only=3D20
>other thing that I still question is my move of Paris to C:ParisPro .
>I should think the default project will either work or not. Maybe
>configs or something else is fighting during Paris startup?
>
>Pats 42 - Miami 7 . . . Halftime and the games over.
>Tom
>
>
>
> "Mike Audet" <mike@....> wrote in message news:471b6eb0$1@linux...
>
> Hi Tom,
>
> Are you using a default project with PARIS? I'm so sorry of this =
has
=3D
>been
> asked and answered already. If so, perhaps it is telling card zero =
to
=3D
>lock
> to an external clock, which it can't because there isn't one.
>
> It would be interesting to attach an external clock source to the =
MEC
=3D
>and
> then start PARIS to see how it behaves. Or, if the clock generator =
is
=3D
>fried,
> tell paris to lock externally and see what happens when an exteral =
=3D
>clock
> source is applied.
>
> Isn't there a master house synch switch in the cfg file? I've =
never =3D
>used
> it. Maybe DJ could help with what that should/shouldn't be set to.
>
> Wish I could do more than think out loud...
>
> Mike
>
> "Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote:
> >
> >
> >Hi Mike,
> >Well I've been to .cfg many a time.
> >I've seen that Mastercard setting as being 0
> >but maybe it changed after removing the 4 other
> >eds cards for this round of testing.
> >
> >If it's still 0 what else could this be? Busted mobo?
> >I'm really in an idunno place right now. I'll be checking
> >seriously today again because of a session tomorrow morning.
> >Tom
> >
> >
> > "Mike Audet" <mike@....> wrote in message =
news:471b2ec2$1@linux...
> >
> > Hi Tom,
> >
> > If you've only got one card in, then the Mastercard =3D3D3D 0 =
setting
=3D
>is =3D3D
> >right.
> > The file is Paris.cfg, and it lives in the c:\program =3D
>files\Emu\PARIS
> =3D3D
> >PRO
> > folder.
> >
> > I'd still check it out to see what it is set to.
> >
> > If it is wrong, what you are describing will happen.
> >
> > Good luck!
> >
> > Mike
> >
> > "Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > >Thanks Dimitrios.
> > >
> > >Mike said the same thing. Is the ini in the Paris folde or =
system
=3D
>=3D3D
> >32?
> > >Do I want the Master card to be 0 absolutely? I only have one =
=3D
>card
> > >in there right now and it's all freaky just the same.
> > >Tom
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > "Dimitrios" <musurgio@otenet.gr> wrote in message =3D3D3D
> > >news:471a0486$1@linux...
> > >
> > > Hi Tom !@
> > > Sorry to hear you still having problems like this ~!!
> > > Must be very frustrating.
> > > Open the Paris ini file and there change the mastercardoutput =
=3D
>with
> =3D3D
> >=3D3D3D
> > >your other
> > > cards and see what happens !!
> > > Let me know.
> > > Regards,
> > > Dimitrios
> > >
> > > "Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >Rick,
> > > >1 mec, no BNC involved. Paris boots up so the 1 mec that
> > > >I'm using shows up but never any A to Ds or any installed =
=3D
>modules.
> > > >This is the same symptom before I repaired one of my mecs =
with
=3D
>a
> > > >new chip. The clock light continues to flash too. Never =
locks
=3D
>=3D3D
> >in.
> > > >
> > > >I am using the simplest setup I can imagine and still it's =
not
=3D
>=3D3D3D
> > >working.
> > > >Mike A. suggested the .ini file to make sure card A is 0. =
=3D
>I'll =3D3D
> >try
> > =3D3D3D
> > >=3D3D3D3D
> > > >that.
> > > >Pretty sure it's right but who knows?
> > > >Thanks,
> > > >Tom
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >"rick" <parnell68@hotmail.com> wrote in message =3D3D3D3D
> > > >news:inqgh393an5s4m99qcaojn09vn112t4u6r@4ax.com...
> > > > i know this as dumb as it gets but the bnc is attached in =
the
=3D
>=3D3D
> >right
> > > > order...right?
> > > > all the cards show up in paris with the single mec?
> > > > how many i/o cards in each mec?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Fri, 19 Oct 2007 00:22:39 -0400, "Tom Bruhl" =3D3D3D
> > ><arpegio@comcast.net>
> > > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > >I thought I was groovin' but once the second Mec was =3D
>introduced
> > > > >the system stopped. That was a few weeks ago.
> > > > >
> > > > >Today I tried different cables, eds cards, mecs, =
eliminated
=3D
>the
> =3D3D
> >=3D3D3D
> > >magma
> > > =3D3D3D3D
> > > >and
> > > > >still no clock lock or modules showing up in the paris =
=3D3D
> >patchbay.
> > > > >
> > > &
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> > > > >
> > > > >I have a new C drive which I will load XP and no pace. =
Any
=3D
>=3D3D3D
> > >other=3D3D3D3D20
> > > > >suggestions?
> > > > >
> > > > >More frustrated than my clients,
> > > > >Tom
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >I choose Polesoft Lockspam to fight spam, and you?
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> > > ><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D3D3D2>1 mec, no =
BNC =3D
>involved. =3D3D
> >Paris =3D3D3D
> > >=3D3D3D3D
> > > >boots up so the=3D3D3D3D20
> > > >1 mec that</FONT></DIV>
> > > ><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D3D3D2>I'm using =
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> >never any
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> > >A to =3D3D3D3D
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> > > >installed modules.</FONT></DIV>
> > > ><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D3D3D2>This is the =
same =3D
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> =3D3D
> >before
> > =3D3D3D
> > >I =3D3D3D3D
> > > >repaired one of=3D3D3D3D20
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> > > ><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D3D3D2>new chip. =
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> =3D3D
> >=3D3D3D3D
> > > >continues to flash=3D3D3D3D20
> > > >too. Never locks in.</FONT></DIV>
> > > ><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D3D3D2></FONT> =
</DIV>
> > > ><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D3D3D2>I am using =
the =3D
>simplest =3D3D
> >setup I
> > =3D3D3D
> > >can =3D3D3D3D
> > > >imagine and=3D3D3D3D20
> > > >still it's not working.</FONT></DIV>
> > > ><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D3D3D2>Mike A. =
suggested
=3D
>the =3D3D
> >.ini file
> > =3D3D3D
> > >=3D3D3D3D
> > > >to make sure=3D3D3D3D20
> > > >card A is 0. I'll try that.</FONT></DIV>
> > > ><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D3D3D2>Pretty sure =
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>right =3D3D
> >but who =3D3D3D
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> > > >knows?</FONT></DIV>
> > > ><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3D3D3DArial =3D
>size=3D3D3D3D3D2>Thanks,</FONT></DIV>
> > > ><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3D3D3DArial =
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> > > ><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D3D3D2></FONT> =
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Re: and here's the potential mobo..... [message #90880 is a reply to message #90858] Mon, 01 October 2007 13:24 Go to previous message
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>suggestions?<BR>> =3D3D20
> > > ><BR>> > >More frustrated than my=3D3D20
> > clients,<BR>> > >Tom<BR>> > =3D3D20
> > ><BR>> > ><BR>> > =3D3D
> >><BR>> =3D3D20
> > > ><BR>> > >I choose Polesoft =3D3D
> >Lockspam to=3D3D20
> > fight spam, and you?<BR>> > =3D3D20
> > >http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html =3D3D3D3D20<BR>> =3D3D20
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> > ><HTML><HEAD><BR>> ><META=3D3D20
> > http-equiv=3D3D3D3D3DContent-Type content=3D3D3D3D3D"text/html; =
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> >></HEAD><BR>> =3D3D20
> > ><BODY bgColor=3D3D3D3D3D#ffffff><BR>> =3D3D
> >><DIV><FONT=3D3D20
> > face=3D3D3D3D3DArial =3D3D
> >size=3D3D3D3D3D2>Rick,</FONT></DIV><BR>> =3D3D20
> > ><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D3D3D2>1 mec, no BNC =
=3D3D
> >involved.=3D3D20
> > Paris =3D3D3D<BR>>=3D3D3D3D<BR>> >boots up so =3D3D
> >the=3D3D3D3D20<BR>> >1=3D3D20
> > mec that</FONT></DIV><BR>> =3D3D
> >><DIV><FONT=3D3D20
> > face=3D3D3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D3D3D2>I'm using shows up but =
never =3D3D
> >any<BR>=3D3D3D<BR>>A to=3D3D20
> > =3D3D3D3D<BR>> >Ds or any=3D3D3D3D20<BR>> >installed=3D3D20
> > modules.</FONT></DIV><BR>> =3D3D
> >><DIV><FONT=3D3D20
> > face=3D3D3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D3D3D2>This is the same symptom =
=3D3D
> >before<BR>=3D3D3D<BR>>I=3D3D20
> > =3D3D3D3D<BR>> >repaired one of=3D3D3D3D20<BR>> >my =3D3D
> >mecs with=3D3D20
> > a</FONT></DIV><BR>> ><DIV><FONT=3D3D20
> > face=3D3D3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D3D3D2>new chip. The clock light =
=3D3D
> >=3D3D3D3D<BR>> =3D3D20
> > >continues to flash=3D3D3D3D20<BR>> >too. Never locks=3D3D20
> > in.</FONT></DIV><BR>> ><DIV><FONT=3D3D20
> > face=3D3D3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D3D3D2></FONT> =3D3D
> ></DIV><BR>> =3D3D20
> > ><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D3D3D2>I am using =
=3D3D
> >the simplest=3D3D20
> > setup I<BR>=3D3D3D<BR>>can =3D3D3D3D<BR>> >imagine =3D3D
> >and=3D3D3D3D20<BR>> =3D3D20
> > >still it's not working.</FONT></DIV><BR>> =3D3D20
> > ><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D3D3D2>Mike A. =3D3D
> >suggested the=3D3D20
> > .ini file<BR>=3D3D3D<BR>>=3D3D3D3D<BR>> >to make =3D3D
> >sure=3D3D3D3D20<BR>> =3D3D20
> > >card A is 0. I'll try that.</FONT></DIV><BR>> =3D3D
> >
> > ><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D3D3D2>Pretty sure =
=3D3D
> >it's right=3D3D20
> > but who =3D3D3D<BR>>=3D3D3D3D<BR>> =3D3D20
> > >knows?</FONT></DIV><BR>> =3D3D
> >><DIV><FONT=3D3D20
> > face=3D3D3D3D3DArial =3D3D
> >size=3D3D3D3D3D2>Thanks,</FONT></DIV><BR>> =3D3D20
> > ><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3D3D3DArial=3D3D20
> > size=3D3D3D3D3D2>Tom</FONT></DIV><BR>> =3D3D20
> > ><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D3D3D2></FONT> =3D3D
> >
> > </DIV><BR>> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3D3D3DArial=3D3D20
> > size=3D3D3D3D3D2></FONT> </DIV><BR>> =3D3D
> >><DIV>=3D3D20
> > </DIV><BR>> ><DIV> </DIV><BR>> =3D3D20
> > ><DIV> </DIV><BR>> ><DIV>"rick"=3D3D20
> > <<A=3D3D3D3D20<BR>> >href=3D3D3D3D3D"<A=3D3D20
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> > =3D3D3D<BR>>=3D3D3D3D<BR>> >wrote in=3D3D3D3D20<BR>> =3D3D
> >>message=3D3D20
> > <A=3D3D3D3D20<BR>> =3D3D3D<BR>>>href=3D3D3D3D3D"<A=3D3D20
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> >>s4m99qcaojn09vn112t4u6r@4ax.com</A>...</DIV><BR>> =3D3D
> >;=3D3D20
> > ><BLOCKQUOTE=3D3D3D3D20<BR>> =3D3D
> >>style=3D3D3D3D3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px;=3D3D20
> > PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =3D3D3D<BR>>=3D3D3D3D<BR>> =
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> > >BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: =3D3D
> >0px">i=3D3D3D3D20<BR>> =3D3D20
> > > know this as dumb as it gets but the bnc is attached =
in=3D3D20
> > the=3D3D3D3D20<BR>> > =3D3D
> >right<BR>order...right?<BR>all=3D3D20
> > the cards show up in paris with =
the<BR>=3D3D3D<BR>>=3D3D3D3D<BR>> =3D3D20
> > >single=3D3D3D3D20<BR>> > mec?<BR>how many i/o =3D3D
> >cards in=3D3D20
> > each mec?<BR><BR><BR>On Fri, 19 Oct=3D3D20
> > =3D3D3D<BR>>2007<BR>> =3D3D3D3D<BR>> ><BR>> =3D3D
> >> =3D3D20
> > 00:22:39 -0400, "Tom Bruhl" <<A=3D3D3D3D20<BR>> > =3D3D20
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> >ilto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A>><BR>w=3D3D
> >rote</A>:=3D3D3D<BR>>=3D3D3D3D<BR>> =3D3D20
> > ><BR><BR>>I=3D3D3D3D20<BR>> > thought =3D3D
> >I was=3D3D20
> > groovin' but once the second Mec was =3D3D3D3D<BR>> =3D3D20
> > >introduced<BR>>the=3D3D3D3D20<BR>> > system =3D3D
> >stopped.=3D3D20
> > That was a few weeks ago.<BR>><BR>>Today I =3D3D
> >=3D3D3D3D<BR>> =3D3D20
> > >tried=3D3D3D3D20<BR>> > different cables, eds cards, =3D3D
> >mecs,=3D3D20
> > eliminated the magma =3D3D3D3D<BR>> >and<BR>>still=3D3D20
> > no=3D3D3D3D20<BR>> > clock lock or modules showing up in =3D3D
> >the paris=3D3D20
> > =3D3D3D3D<BR>> =3D3D20
> > >patchbay.<BR>><BR>>This=3D3D3D3D20<BR>> =3D3D
> >> =3D3D20
> > means to me software unless someone tells me =3D3D3D3D<BR>> =
=3D3D20
> > >differently.<BR>><BR>>I=3D3D3D3D20<BR>> =3D3D
> >> =3D3D20
> > have a new C drive which I will load XP and no pace. Any=3D3D20
> > other=3D3D3D3D20<BR>> > =3D3D20
> > <BR>>suggestions?<BR>><BR>>More frustrated =3D3D
> >than=3D3D20
> > my=3D3D3D3D20<BR>> > =3D3D20
> > =3D3D
> >clients,<BR>>Tom<BR>><BR>><BR>><BR=3D3D
> >>><BR>>I=3D3D20
> > choose =3D3D3D3D<BR>> >Polesoft=3D3D3D3D20<BR>> =3D3D
> >> Lockspam=3D3D20
> > to fight spam, and=3D3D3D3D20<BR>> > =3D3D20
> > you?<BR>>http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html =3D3D
> >=3D3D3D3D20<BR>> =3D3D20
> > =3D3D
> >><BR></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML><BR>> =3D3D
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> > ><BR>> ><BR>><BR>><BR>><!DOCTYPE HTML =3D3D
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> > Transitional//EN"><BR>><HTML><HEAD><BR>><META=3D3D20
> > http-equiv=3D3D3D3DContent-Type =
content=3D3D3D3D"text/html;=3D3D20
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> >content=3D3D3D3D"MSHTML=3D3D20
> > 6.00.2800.1400"=3D3D20
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> >name=3D3D3D3DGENERATOR><BR>><STYLE></STYLE><BR>></HEA=3D3D
> >D><BR>><BODY=3D3D20
> > bgColor=3D3D3D3D#ffffff><BR>><DIV><FONT =
face=3D3D3D3DArial=3D3D20
> > size=3D3D3D3D2>Thanks=3D3D20
> > Dimitrios.</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT =3D3D
> >face=3D3D3D3DArial=3D3D20
> > size=3D3D3D3D2></FONT> </DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT =3D3D
> >face=3D3D3D3DArial=3D3D20
> > size=3D3D3D3D2>Mike said the same thing. Is the =3D3D3D<BR>>ini =
in =3D3D
> >
> > the=3D3D3D20<BR>>Paris folde or system=3D3D20
> > 32?</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3D3DArial =3D3D
> >
> > size=3D3D3D3D2>Do I want the Master card to be =3D3D
> >0=3D3D3D20<BR>>absolutely? I=3D3D20
> > only have one card</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT =3D3D
> >
> > face=3D3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D3D2>in there right now and it's =
all=3D3D20
> > freaky<BR>=3D3D3D<BR>>just=3D3D20
> > =3D3D
> >the=3D3D3D20<BR>>same.</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT=3D3D
> >=3D3D20
> > face=3D3D3D3DArial=3D3D20
> > size=3D3D3D3D2>Tom</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT=3D3D20
> > face=3D3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D3D2></FONT> =3D3D
> ></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT=3D3D20
> > face=3D3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D3D2></FONT> =3D3D
> ></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT=3D3D20
> > face=3D3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D3D2></FONT>=3D3D20
> > =3D3D
> ></DIV><BR>><BLOCKQUOTE=3D3D3D20<BR>>style=3D3D3D3D"PADDING-RIGHT: =
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