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Re: I have made a major DAW decision [message #86852 is a reply to message #86843] Sun, 17 June 2007 19:45 Go to previous messageGo to next message
LaMont is currently offline  LaMont
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single EDS card. Test each MEC. Once<BR>=3D<BR>&gt;you know if there =
is a=20
problem there, add a new SCSI cable and another =3D<BR>&gt;card. Put =
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all times. this will give you the info as to how the =3D<BR>&gt;cards =
are=20
initializing and which card is card A, B, C as you start =
=3D<BR>&gt;adding more=20
hardware. the MEC i sent you is one of 4 that were working =
=3D<BR>&gt;perfectly=20
when I took my system off line. I can't imagine it being a =
=3D<BR>&gt;problem.=20
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Re: I have made a major DAW decision [message #86853 is a reply to message #86852] Sun, 17 June 2007 19:56 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Bill L is currently offline  Bill L   UNITED STATES
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&lt;DIV&gt;&lt;FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2&gt;Yes, it does, and the =
orientation=20
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combination with=20
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&lt;DIV&gt;&lt;FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2&gt;Start with a new SCSI =
cable and a=20
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off line. I=20
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------=_NextPart_000_01D3_01C7C53F.4ACDA0B0--Good to hear man, take care.

"Nappy" <mgrant62@googlemail.com> wrote in message news:46967969$1@linux...
>
> Thanks for all the prayers. I got out of the hospital wed with flying
colors.
> I ve got a ton of meds,but everything is going to be alright. I'll post a
> follow-up
> in a few days. Thanks to all again.
>
> respect
> NappyHi David,

The only things in paris that I know of that uses MFC (microsoft foundation
classes) is the effects subsystem and (possibly) the driver.

With that said, almost everything else in windows uses MFC in one way or
another. It's very rare for that .dll not to be present.

Anyway, I placed a copy of the file at

http://file.youchill.com/Misc/mfc71.zip

Download, unzip and place a copy in the c:\windows\system32 directory. This
may lead to warnings of more missing files, but if you let me know I can
supply.

Chuck


"David" <crosscreekrecording@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>I failed to mention on my other post below that everytime that I launch
paris
>this error comes up(application has failed to start because mfc71.dll was
>not found, re-intalling app might fix) re-installing many times did not
fix.
>I can click on the ok button and paris however does continue and load. Just
>wondering if this is the cultprit on the other problems I am having. Sometimes
>upon launching paris error init paris engine comes says no interface connected
>to master card. I can relaunch and it will launch 5-6 times without the
no
>interface error appearing
Re: I have made a major DAW decision [message #86855 is a reply to message #86843] Sun, 17 June 2007 20:36 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Graham Duncan is currently offline  Graham Duncan   UNITED STATES
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Registered: December 2008
Senior Member
Guys,
>I'm all set with the cables and the which card is A bit.
>Rod you were right about what I was asking.
>
>In any event I scaled down to one EDS (Pretty sure that's card A =
>right?!!!)
>and plugged it into each of my two working Mecs. Paris will boot but
>even internal clock was never found nor were the in/outs on each Mec.
>The 442 on the other hand works like a champ one card only. I suspect
>either all my Mecs are screwy now or the SCSI cables are intermitant at
=
>best.
>It's working fine with the 442 so I'm sticking wi
Re: I have made a major DAW decision [message #86858 is a reply to message #86843] Mon, 18 June 2007 04:29 Go to previous messageGo to next message
wireline[26] is currently offline  wireline[26]
Messages: 1
Registered: June 2007
Junior Member
rientation right?
> >
> > Yes, it does, and the orientation of the slots you are using in =3D
> >combination with the orientation of the ribbon cables will determine
=
>=3D
> >this. Have you changed them around during your reconfiguration?
> >
> > Start with a new SCSI cable and a single EDS card. Test each MEC. =
>Once
> =3D
> >you know if there is a problem there, add a new SCSI cable and =
>another =3D
> >card. Put different modules in the MECs so you can see which one is =
>on =3D
> >card A, B, C at all times. this will give you the info as to how the
=
>=3D
> >cards are initializing and which card is card A, B, C as you start =
>=3D
> >adding more hardware. the MEC i sent you is one of 4 that were =
>working =3D
> >perfectly when I took my system off line. I can't imagine it being a
=
>=3D
> >problem. Bent pins on SCSI cables can be a serious issue though. Your
=
>=3D
> >system will not function with bad SCSI cables.
> >
> ><!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN">
> ><HTML><HEAD>
> ><META http-equiv=3D3DContent-Type content=3D3D"text/html; =3D
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>=3D
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> > <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> > <DIV>"Tom Bruhl" <<A=3D20
> > href=3D3D"mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A>> =
>wrote =3D
> >in message=3D20
> > <A href=3D3D"news:46972376@linux">news:46972376@linux</A>...</DIV>
> > <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>This is really a novice =
>oriented =3D
> >question but . .=3D20
> > .</FONT></DIV>
> > <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>It doesn't matter which card =
>is the =3D
> >"A"=3D20
> > card</FONT></DIV>
> > <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>in your system as far as =
>Paris' ID =3D
> >orientation=3D20
> > right?</FONT></DIV>
> > <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> > <DIV>
> > <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Yes, it does, and the =
>orientation of
> =3D
> >the slots=3D20
> > you are using in combination with the orientation of the =
>ribbon=3D20
> > cables will determine this. Have you changed them around during =3D
> >your=3D20
> > reconfiguration?</FONT></DIV>
> > <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> > <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Start with a new SCSI cable =
>and a =3D
> >single EDS=3D20
> > card. Test each MEC. Once you know if there is a problem there, add
=
>a
> =3D
> >new SCSI=3D20
> > cable and another card. Put different modules in the MECs so you =
>can =3D
> >see which=3D20
> > one is on card A, B, C at all times. this will give you the info =
>=3D
> >as to=3D20
> > how the cards are initializing and which card is card A, B, C as =
>you =3D
> >start=3D20
> > adding more hardware. the MEC i sent you is one of 4 that were =
>working
> =3D
> >
> > perfectly when I took my system off line. I can't imagine it being
=
>a =3D
> >problem.=3D20
> > Bent pins on SCSI cables can be a serious issue though. Your system
=
>=3D
> >will not=3D20
> > function with bad SCSI =3D
> >cables.</FONT></DIV></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTM
Re: I have made a major DAW decision [message #86864 is a reply to message #86777] Mon, 18 June 2007 07:51 Go to previous messageGo to next message
TCB is currently offline  TCB
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sent you is one of 4 that were working =
>=3D<BR>>perfectly=20
> when I took my system off line. I can't imagine it being a =
>=3D<BR>>problem.=20
> Bent pins on SCSI cables can be a serious issue though. Your =
>=3D<BR>>system=20
> will not function with bad SCSI cables.<BR>><BR>><!DOCTYPE =
>HTML=20
> PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0=20
> Transitional//EN"><BR>><HTML><HEAD><BR>><META=20
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>content=3D3D"MSHTML=20
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>5px;=20
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>MARGIN-RIGHT:=20
> 0px"><BR>>  <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial=20
> size=3D3D2></FONT> </DIV><BR>>  <DIV>"Tom =
>Bruhl"=20
> <<A=3D20<BR>>  href=3D3D"<A=20
> =
>href=3D'mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A'>mailto:arpegi=
>o@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A</A>>>=20
> wrote =3D<BR>>in message=3D20<BR>>  <A href=3D3D"<A=20
> =
>href=3D'news:46972376@linux">news:46972376@linux</A>...</DIV'>news:469723=
>76@linux">news:46972376@linux</A>...</DIV</A>><BR>>&nbs=
>p;=20
> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>This is really a =
>novice oriented=20
> =3D<BR>>question but . .=3D20<BR>> =20
> .</FONT></DIV><BR>>  <DIV><FONT =
>face=3D3DArial=20
> size=3D3D2>It doesn't matter which card is the =
>=3D<BR>>"A"=3D20<BR>> =20
> card</FONT></DIV><BR>>  <DIV><FONT =
>face=3D3DArial=20
> size=3D3D2>in your system as far as Paris' ID=20
> =3D<BR>>orientation=3D20<BR>> =20
> right?</FONT></DIV><BR>>  <DIV><FONT =
>face=3D3DArial=20<
Re: I have made a major DAW decision [message #86866 is a reply to message #86864] Mon, 18 June 2007 08:30 Go to previous messageGo to next message
wireline[27] is currently offline  wireline[27]
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><DIV><FONT size=3D2><BR><BR>I choose Polesoft Lockspam to fight spam, =
>and=20
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>href=3D"http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html">http://www.polesoft.com/refer=
>.html</A>   </FONT></DIV></BODY></HTML>
>
>Yeah, there should be only 1 scherzo per card. Here's a question. Are letting
Paris autofind the drivers? if so, are you sure you don'e have any of the
old (2.x)drivers on the drive? It should be loading the xp drivers.
Rod
"Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>
>Rod,
>That's sounds good. I'll try that first. If it doesn't help
>I'm stripping down to one EDS/Mec and build from there
>if I can. =20
>
>I have been deleting the Scherzo drivers so that there is only
>one for each EDS card. I will continue to do that unless you
>think I should leave 5 Scherzos for one EDS card.
>Tom
> "Rod Lincoln" <rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com> wrote in message =
>news:4697822f$1@linux...
>
> Tom....you need to hide your default project in a folder, or rename =
>it. Make
> Paris create it's own when it boots, based on the hardware it see's. =
>This
> is only during your trouble shooting phase. Once you get everything =
>ironed
> out, you can put the default ppj back. I ran into this problem when I
=
>was
> trouble shooting a while back.
> Rod
> "Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote:
> >
> >
> >Well here's what is happening.
> >
> >I looked very closely at the pins on the scsi cables and noticed
> >a slightly bent one or two on almost half of them (5). I think it's
> >from being careless about pushing them in. I straightened them
> >perfectly and yet still no luck with booting Paris. "No interface =
>=3D
> >attached
> >to the Master Card" is the message. I'm only using one mec to test.
> >I also tried the 442. Once in a while the Magma wouldn't turn on =
>with =3D
> >the
> >442 attached. I think that is because of the bent pins. That's good
=
>of
> >the Magma. I've tried all five cards, removed the A card and swapped
=
>it
> =3D
> >
> >with another still no luck.=3D20
> >
> >I'm lost in this quagmire now. I'm not even pissed about the busted
=
>mec
> >at this point. I want an answer to what is going on. The default =
>=3D
> >project=3D20
> >is looking for external word clock so that's my only choice although
=
>I
> >have tried it with no Lucid attached with the same results.
> >
> >I think I'll call Edmund.
> > "Rod Lincoln" <rlincoln@nospam.kc.r.com> wrote in message =3D
> >news:469708c8$1@linux...
> >
> > That kinda totally sucks. Sorry.
> > rod
> > "Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > >Hey Rod,
> > >Ya I've been swapping things out to no end just to be sure.
> > >I even had trouble getting it going with internal clock which =
>ruled
> > >out the Lucid in my mind.
> > >
> > >The latest news is I couldn't get it to boot at all with other =
>Mecs
> > >being the master. In the process I smoked the original Mec A
> > >because the SCSI cable was half in at start up. I heard a crack
> > >and then the smell of burning chips.
Re: I have made a major DAW decision [message #86868 is a reply to message #86866] Mon, 18 June 2007 08:34 Go to previous messageGo to next message
EK Sound is currently offline  EK Sound   CANADA
Messages: 939
Registered: June 2005
Senior Member
as always
> > > >been Card A for three years. Can that change? Paris works fine
=
>=3D
> >with =3D3D
> > >just
> > > =3D3D3D
> > > >that one. I'll try=3D3D3D20
> > > >all the others in that position just to see though.
> > > >
> > > >I am close to starting from scratch and possibly doing the =3D
> >antipace =3D3D
> > >=3D3D3D
> > > >thing. How could that be=3D3D3D20
> > > >the evil that won't allow hardware to show up?
> > > >Thanks,
> > > >Tom
> > > > "DJ" <animix _ at _ animas _ dot _ net> wrote in message =
>=3D3D3D
> > > >news:4696229c$1@linux...
> > > > Have you tested each MEC individually? I'd start there. Did =
>you
> =3D
> >=3D3D3D
> > > >iuninstall/reinstall Paris yet?
> > > > "Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote in message =3D3D3D
> > > >news:4695d5bf@linux...
> > > > Sorry to shout but this is driving me insane.
> > > >
> > > > I am working with a cloned drive that used to work with
> > > > 2 Mecs and WC. Now no matter what I do, I can not
> > > > get a second Mec to show up and receive clock. It
> > > > doesn't matter if it's at the end of the line or anywhere
> > > > else. It doesn't matter if it's internally clocked or =3D
> >externally
> > > > clocked. I've changed Mecs, clock cables, SCSI cables
> > > > and no changes. I've even tried a reinstall of Paris.
> > > > Same deal. =3D3D3D20
> > > >
> > > > I must be doing something totally wrong for this to =
>continue.
> > > > The only thing else I can think to try is swapping the =3D
> >last=3D3D3D20
> > > > EDS card with another or go down to four. Maybe it's
> > > > card 5? Or, triple check the connectors between all the =
>cards
> > > > again.
> > > >
> > > > All EDS cards are up and running and play audio with Paris
=
>=3D3D
> > >effects.
> > > > All 5 cards share 3 IRQs with nothing else.
> > > > What else is there?
> > > > Sadly,
> > > > Tom
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > I choose Polesoft Lockspam to fight spam, and you?
> > > > http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html =3D3D20
> > > >
> > > ><!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN">
> > > ><HTML><HEAD>
> > > ><META http-equiv=3D3D3D3DContent-Type =
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> > > ><BODY bgColor=3D3D3D3D#ffffff>
> > > ><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D3D2>Deej,</FONT></DIV>
> > > ><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D3D2>Ya, I've =
>uninstalled, =3D3D
> > >reinstalled Paris
> > > =3D3D3D
> > > >about five=3D3D3D20
> > > >times total in the last day and a half.</FONT></DIV>
> > > ><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D3D2>I am close to =
>starting =3D
> >from =3D3D
> > >scratch and
> > > =3D3D3D
> > > >possibly=3D3D3D20
> > > >doing the antipace thing.</FONT></DIV>
> > > ><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D3D2>I'm getting pretty
=
>good =3D
> >at it. I
> > =3D3D
> > >=3D3D3D
> > > >have Mec 1=3D3D3D20
> > > >loaded with cards attached to what has always</FONT></DIV>
> > > ><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D3D2>been Card A for =
>three =3D
> >years. Can
> > =3D3D
> > >=3D3D3D
> > > >that change?=3D3D3D20
> > > >Paris works fine with just that one. I'll try </FONT></DIV>
> > > ><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D3D2>all the others in
=
>that =3D
> >=3D3D<
Re: I have made a major DAW decision [message #86869 is a reply to message #86866] Mon, 18 June 2007 08:51 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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br /> > > ></FONT><FONT =3D3D3D
> > > >face=3D3D3D3DArial=3D3D3D20
> > > >size=3D3D3D3D2>position just to see though.</FONT></DIV>
> > > ><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> > > ><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D3D2>I am close to =
>starting =3D
> >from =3D3D
> > >scratch and
> > > =3D3D3D
> > > >possibly=3D3D3D20
> > > >doing the antipace thing. How could that be </FONT></DIV>
> > > ><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D3D2>the evil that =
>won't allow
> =3D
> >=3D3D
> > >hardware to =3D3D3D
> > > >show=3D3D3D20
> > > >up?</FONT></DIV>
> > > ><DIV&
Re: I have made a major DAW decision [message #86870 is a reply to message #86866] Mon, 18 June 2007 09:18 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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gt;<FONT face=3D3D3D3DArial =
>size=3D3D3D3D2>Thanks,</FONT></DIV>
> > > ><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D3D2>Tom</FONT></DIV>
> > > ><BLOCKQUOTE dir=3D3D3D3Dltr=3D3D3D20
> > > >style=3D3D3D3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; =
>MARGIN-LEFT: =3D
> >5px; =3D3D
> > >=3D3D3D
> > > >BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
> > > > <DIV>"DJ" <animix _ at _ animas _ dot _ net> wrote in message
=
><A
> =3D
> >=3D3D
> > >=3D3D3D
> > > >
> > > > =3D
> =
>>href=3D3D3D3D"news:4696229c$1@linux">news:4696229c$1@linux</A>...</DIV>
> > > > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D3D2>Have you tested
=
>each =3D
> >MEC =3D3D3D
> > > >individually? I'd start=3D3D3D20
> > > > there. Did you iuninstall/reinstall Paris yet?</FONT></DIV>
> > > > <BLOCKQUOTE dir=3D3D3D3Dltr=3D3D3D20
> > > > style=3D3D3D3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; =
>MARGIN-LEFT:
> =3D
> >5px;
> > =3D3D
> > >=3D3D3D
> > > >BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
> > > > <DIV>"Tom Bruhl" <<A=3D3D3D20
> > > > =3D
> >href=3D3D3D3D"mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A>> =
>=3D3D
> > >=3D3D3D
> > > >wrote in=3D3D3D20
> > > > message <A =3D3D3D
> > > =
>>href=3D3D3D3D"news:4695d5bf@linux">news:4695d5bf@linux</A>...</DIV>
> > > > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D3D2>Sorry to shout
=
>but =3D
> >this is =3D3D
> > >driving
> > > =3D3D3D
> > > >me=3D3D3D20
> > > > insane.</FONT></DIV>
> > > > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> > > > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D3D2>I am working =
>with a =3D
> >cloned =3D3D
> > >drive =3D3D3D
> > > >that used to=3D3D3D20
> > > > work with</FONT></DIV>
> > > > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D3D2>2 Mecs and WC.
=
>=3D
> ></FONT><FONT
> > =3D3D
> > >=3D3D3D
> > > >face=3D3D3D3DArial=3D3D3D20
> > > > size=3D3D3D3D2>Now no matter what I do, I can =
>not</FONT></DIV>
> > > > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D3D2>get a second =
>Mec to =3D
> >show up
> > =3D3D
> > >and =3D3D3D
> > > >receive=3D3D3D20
> > > > clock. It</FONT></DIV>
> > > > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D3D2>doesn't matter
=
>if =3D
> >it's at =3D3D
> > >the end =3D3D3D
> > > >of the line=3D3D3D20
> > > > or anywhere</FONT></DIV>
> > > > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D3D2>else. It =
>doesn't =3D
> >matter if =3D3D
> > >=3D3D3D
> > > >it's=3D3D3D20
> > > > internally clocked or externally</FONT></DIV>
> > > > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D3D2>clocked. I've
=
>changed
> =3D
> >Mecs,
> > =3D3D
> > >=3D3D3D
> > > >clock cables,=3D3D3D20
> > > > SCSI cables</FONT></DIV>
> > > > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D3D2>and no =
>changes. I've
> =3D
> >even =3D3D
> > >=3D3D3D
> > > >tried a=3D3D3D20
> > > > reinstall of Paris.</FONT></DIV>
> > > > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D3D2>Same deal. =3D
> ></FONT></DIV>
> > > > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> > > > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D3D2>I must be =
>doing =3D
> >something =3D3D
> > >totally =3D
Re: I have made a major DAW decision [message #86879 is a reply to message #86839] Mon, 18 June 2007 14:20 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I =3D3D
> > >can think=3D3D20
> > > to<BR>=3D3D3D<BR>>try is=3D3D3D20<BR>> swapping the =3D3D
> > >last=3D3D20
> > > </FONT></DIV><BR>> =3D3D
> > ><DIV><FONT=3D3D20
> > > face=3D3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D3D2>EDS card with another or go =
>down =3D3D
> > >to<BR>=3D3D3D<BR>>four.=3D3D20
> > > =3D3D3D20<BR>> Maybe=3D3D20
> > > it's</FONT></DIV><BR>> =3D3D
> > ><DIV><FONT=3D3D20
> > > face=3D3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D3D2>card 5? Or, triple check =
>the=3D3D20
> > > =3D3D3D<BR>>connectors=3D3D3D20<BR>> between all the=3D3D20
> > > cards</FONT></DIV><BR>> =3D3D
> > ><DIV><FONT=3D3D20
> > > face=3D3D3D3DArial=3D3D20
> > > =3D3D
> > >size=3D3D3D3D2>again.</FONT></DIV><BR>> =3D3D20
> > > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D3D2></FONT>=3D3D20
> > > </DIV><BR>> <DIV><FONT =3D3D
> > >face=3D3D3D3DArial=3D3D20
> > > size=3D3D3D3D2>All EDS cards are up and running =3D3D3D<BR>>and
=
>=3D
> >play=3D3D20
> > > audio=3D3D3D20<BR>> with Paris=3D3D20
> > > effects.</FONT></DIV><BR>> =3D3D20
> > > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D3D2>All 5 cards share 3
=
>=3D3D
> > >IRQs with=3D3D20
> > > =3D3D3D<BR>>nothing=3D3D3D20<BR>> =3D3D20
> > > else.</FONT></DIV><BR>> =3D3D
> > ><DIV><FONT=3D3D20
> > > face=3D3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D3D2>What else is=3D3D20
> > > there?</FONT></DIV><BR>> =3D3D
> > ><DIV><FONT=3D3D20
> > > face=3D3D3D3DArial=3D3D20
> > > =3D3D
> > >size=3D3D3D3D2>Sadly,</FONT></DIV><BR>> =3D3D20
> > > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3D3DArial=3D3D20
> > > size=3D3D3D3D2>Tom</FONT></DIV><BR>> =3D3D20
> > > <DIV><FONT size=3D3D3D3D2><BR><BR>I choose =3D3D
> > >Polesoft Lockspam=3D3D20
> > > to fight =3D3D3D<BR>>spam, and=3D3D3D20<BR>> =3D3D20
> > > you?<BR><A=3D3D3D20<BR>> =3D3D
> > >=3D3D3D<BR>>href=3D3D3D3D"<A=3D3D20
> > > =3D3D
> > =3D
> =
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>/re=3D
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>3D=3D
> >
> > >>=3D3D3D<BR>>.html</A>=3D3D20
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Re: I have made a major DAW decision [message #86882 is a reply to message #86866] Mon, 18 June 2007 20:39 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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gt;>running =3D3D3D<BR>> >and play =3D
> >audio=3D3D3D20<BR>> =3D20
> > > with Paris=3D20
> > effects.</FONT></DIV><BR>> > =3D
> >
> > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D3D2>All 5 cards share =3D
> >3 IRQs=3D20
> > =3D3D<BR>>with =3D3D3D<BR>> >nothing=3D3D3D20<BR>> =3D20
> > > else.</FONT></DIV><BR>> =3D20
> > > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3D3DArial =3D
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Re: I have made a major DAW decision [message #86891 is a reply to message #86882] Tue, 19 June 2007 08:56 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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what you were asking=20
Tom?<BR>&gt;&nbsp; DJ's advice is very important though. I would do =
it, if you=20
haven't =3D<BR>&gt;already.<BR>&gt;&nbsp; I don't want to sound like a =
"RTFM"=20
kind of guy, but the Paris =
manual<BR>=3D<BR>&gt;describes<BR>&gt;&nbsp; this=20
procedure pretty well.<BR>&gt;&nbsp; It's on page 4 and 5 of the 3.0=20
version.<BR>&gt;&nbsp; It kind of sounds to me like you may not be =
hooking up=20
the correct eds<BR>=3D<BR>&gt;card<BR>&gt;&nbsp; to the master=20
mec.<BR>&gt;&nbsp; Rod<BR>&gt;&nbsp; "DJ" &lt;animix _ at _ animas _ =
dot _=20
net&gt; wrote:<BR>&gt;&nbsp; &gt;<BR>&gt;&nbsp; &gt;<BR>&gt;&nbsp;=20
&gt;<BR>&gt;&nbsp; &gt;&nbsp; "Tom Bruhl" &lt;<A=20
href=3D"mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A>&gt; wrote =
in message=20
=3D3D<BR>&gt;&nbsp; &gt;news:46972376@linux...<BR>&gt;&nbsp; =
&gt;&nbsp; This is=20
really a novice oriented question but . . .<BR>&gt;&nbsp; &gt;&nbsp; =
It=20
doesn't matter which card is the "A" card<BR>&gt;&nbsp; &gt;&nbsp; in =
your=20
system as far as Paris' ID orientation right?<BR>&gt;&nbsp; =
&gt;<BR>&gt;&nbsp;=20
&gt;&nbsp; Yes, it does, and the orientation of the slots you are =
using in=20
=3D3D<BR>&gt;&nbsp; &gt;combination with the orientation of the ribbon =
cables=20
will determine<BR>=3D<BR>&gt;=3D3D<BR>&gt;&nbsp; &gt;this. Have you =
changed them=20
around during your reconfiguration?<BR>&gt;&nbsp; &gt;<BR>&gt;&nbsp;=20
&gt;&nbsp; Start with a new SCSI cable and a single EDS card. Test =
each MEC.=20
=3D<BR>&gt;Once<BR>&gt;&nbsp; =3D3D<BR>&gt;&nbsp; &gt;you know if =
there is a=20
problem there, add a new SCSI cable and =3D<BR>&gt;another =
=3D3D<BR>&gt;&nbsp;=20
&gt;card. Put different modules in the MECs so you can see which one =
is=20
=3D<BR>&gt;on =3D3D<BR>&gt;&nbsp; &gt;card A, B, C at all times. this =
will give=20
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are=20
initializing and which card is card A, B, C as you start=20
=3D<BR>&gt;=3D3D<BR>&gt;&nbsp; &gt;adding more hardware. the MEC i =
sent you is one=20
of 4 that were =3D<BR>&gt;working =3D3D<BR>&gt;&nbsp; &gt;perfectly =
when I took my=20
system off line. I can't imagine it being =
a<BR>=3D<BR>&gt;=3D3D<BR>&gt;&nbsp;=20
&gt;problem. Bent pins on SCSI cables can be a serious issue though.=20
Your<BR>=3D<BR>&gt;=3D3D<BR>&gt;&nbsp; &gt;system will not function =
with bad SCSI=20
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Re: I have made a major DAW decision [message #86925 is a reply to message #86816] Wed, 20 June 2007 08:11 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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atter how much electricity we
generate, total SOx
emissions will continue declining if the Act is enforced. While there is
no absolute cap
on PM, federal rules are in place to ensure that these emissions –
especially the smallest
particulates – will decrease as well, regardless of the amount of
electricity produced.
(Source: Charles Garlow, U.S. Environmental Protection Agency Air
Enforcement
Division)

Indeed, power-plant criteria pollutants have been decreasing
Re: I have made a major DAW decision [message #86926 is a reply to message #86858] Wed, 20 June 2007 08:33 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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even as the
U.S. generates
more and more electricity. Greenhouse gases, which are not yet
regulated, are a bigger
concern. PHEVs certainly (and EVs almost surely) reduce W2W greenhouse gas
emissions compared with ICEs or HEVs, because so much of the CO2 comes from
burning gasoline. PHEVs and EVs get cleaner as the grid gets cleaner
with the addition
of more renewable power, but ICEs create more exhaust as they age.

PHEVs and EVs have the added advantage of moving emissions away from
population
centers (where ICE tailpipes pollute the most). It is simpler to
regulate emissions from a
smaller number of power plants than from 200 million tailpipes.

Overall, PHEVs and EVs create fewer emissions by using cleaner, cheaper,
domestic
electricity."






BT wrote:
> I want to see a seriously scientific analysis for comparison of the
> total ecological impact of a fuel efficient internal combustion engine
> vs this Toyota Hybrid.
>
> What I think people don't fully consider is how the "plug-in"
> electricity is generated, what energy loss is sustained in it's
> transmission, storage to and recall from the battery. On the upside,
> there is certainly an advantage to recapturing kinetic energy via
> braking by generator.
>
> I'm betting that, depending on the type of electrical generating plant,
> and factoring in the efficiency losses above, a plug-in electrical
> hybrid may have as big of a total carbon footprint as an efficient
> internal combustion engine. It's just that you've offloaded some of the
> power generating requirements to another location and methodology.
> Factor in the environmental impact of battery manufacture and disposal
> as well.
>
> Out-of-sight and out-of-mind may, or may not, actually equate to more
> eco-friendly.
>
> Best regards,
> Brian T
>
> chuck duffy wrote:
>> Check this out:
>>
>> http://www.tfot.info/index.php?option=com_rsgallery2&pag e=inline&id=209&catid=1&limitstart=189
>>
>>
>> Toyota is doing a new lithium ion based battery, plug-in prius that will
>> do up to 125 MPG. Set for release in 2008/2009.
>>
>> This will probably be my first hybrid car.
>>
>> Chuck
>>
>> Paul Braun <cygnus_nospam@ctgonline.org> wrote:
>>> On Wed, 6 Jun 2007 09:38:14 -0600, "DJ" <www.aarrrrggghhh!!!.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> "James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:466666c1$1@linux...
>>>>> http://money.excite.com/jsp/nw/nwdt_rt_top.jsp?news_id=ap-d8 pivoe80&
>>>> Cool !!!! Now it's like a Paris system
>>>>
>>>> (just trying to stay on topic so Kim doesn't send a guy over here to
>>>> break
>>
>>>> my knees)
>>>>
>>> I think the problem lies in Honda's marketing department. Toyota
>>> advertises the crap out of their system and Priusesses (Priuii??)
>>> while Honda essentially put cars on the market and just left it up to
>>> the consumer to find them.
>>>
>>> My wife drives a Honda Insight. Wonderful car. Gets 52mpg average.
>>> Different technology than the Toyotas - Toyota is an electric car
>>> with gas assist - kicks butt around town. The Honda is a gas car with
>>> electric assist - kicks butt on the highway.
>>>
>>> But Sheri really had to dig to find anything about the Insight when
>>> she went shopping three years ago. Same with the current Honda
>>> hybrids.
>>>
>>> Instead of whacking a model and blaming engineering, for once, please,
>>> club the marketing weenies over the heads with baseball bats and buy
>>> them a clue!!!!!!
>>>
>>> pab
>>no, we don't have to... but we could.....!


"DJ" <animix _ at _ animas _ dot _ net> wrote:
>He's really lucky he posted here when he did. I guess you'n me aren't gonna

>have to go over there and crash on his couch and wait for him to show up

>after all.
>
>;o)
>
>
>"steve the artguy" <artguy@lugubriosity.org> wrote in message
>news:4697e4d3$1@linux...
>>
>> Nappy-
>>
>> !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>>
>> -steve
>>
>>
>> "Nappy" <mgrant62@googlemail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>Thanks for all the prayers. I got out of the hospital wed with flying

>>>colors.
>>>I ve got a ton of meds,but everything is going to be alright. I'll post
>> a
>>>follow-up
>>>in a few days. Thanks to all again.
>>>
>>>respect
>>>Nappy
>>
>
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Re: I have made a major DAW decision [message #86929 is a reply to message #86743] Wed, 20 June 2007 09:00 Go to previous message
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>> you need to save both, even though they will impact one another when
>> allocating I/O (if you use the Control Room at least - it is *not* =
saved
>> with the I/O presets at the moment, though I think it should).
>>=20
>> This is also one feature I would ask for in N4/C4.x - I/O and Control =
Rooms
>> settings saved with each project, in addition to retaining global =
preset
>> list/default setting option.
>>=20
>> Hope that solves the problem DJ - I know rerouting is massively =
frustrating.
>>=20
>> Regards,
>> Dedric
>>=20
>> On 7/10/07 11:09 PM, in article 4694660a$1@linux, "Neil" =
<OIUOIU@.com>
>> wrote:
>>=20
>>=20
>>>May I suggest something?
>>>
>>>OK, I'm using my system as an example here since you & I have
>>>different convertor sets, but follow for a moment & maybe this
>>>will help if you apply similar principals to your setup...
>>>
>>>I have two Multifaces... let's say I have various
>>>inputs on Multiface #1 assigned to INPUTS as follows in
>>>the "VST Connections" dialogue:
>>>
>>>Multiface ch1 =3D Mono Input/Kick
>
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