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I found out how to get rid of that "que" pop up in Paris [message #95672]

Wed, 06 February 2008 10:45

Stevehwan

Messages: 207
Registered: January 2006

Senior Member

t;BR>Tom, yes why should you use sampleslide when Faderworks =
has
=3D
>been=3D20
> written<BR>to do this for us only BETTER !<BR><BR>1. You put =3D
>faderworks=3D20
> 1in/1out on every Paris audio track.<BR>2. If you wanna use a =
stereo =3D
>pair of=3D20
> tracks the put the 2in/2out faderworks.<BR>3. I made a Default =
project
=3D
>with 64=3D20
> (4 cards) faderworks instances already<BR>loaded so no hassle=3D20
> thereafter...<BR>4. If you make a list with plugins and latencies =
(64
=3D
>for now=3D20
> is more than<BR>enouph) these will be remembered with every =
new=3D20
> project.<BR>Just remember to have the button in the OFF =
state.<BR>5. =3D
>Even if=3D20
> you use FFX4 and/or chainer or other wrpper on other slots =3D
>faderworks<BR>will=3D20
> do whatever is asked to d

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Re: I found out how to get rid of that "que" pop up in Paris [message #95673 is a reply to message #95672]

Wed, 06 February 2008 10:03

Tom Bruhl

Messages: 1368
Registered: June 2007

Senior Member

o.<BR>6 HERE IS HOW IT ACTUALLY =
WORKS:<BR>The
=3D
>default=3D20
> status of the plugin is to ignore the latency status for =3D
>the<BR>track=3D20
> you are putting the plugin.<BR>For instance.<BR><BR>A. You put a =
waves
=3D
>renvox=3D20
> on track 1 on slot two either standalone or from<BR>withing the =
FFX4 =3D
>or=3D20
> chainer...<BR>Now the actual latency this plugin introduces is =
64=3D20
> samples.<BR>That MEANS that all other Paris audio tracks are 64 =3D
>samples ahead=3D20
> of track<BR>1 or if you like ,track 1 is 64 sample latent.<BR>NOW =
=3D
>having in=3D20
> mind that you have put Faderworks on every track then BY =3D
>JUST<BR>pushing the=3D20
> ON button track 1 of the Waves renvox preset then =
Faderworks<BR>DELAYS
=3D
>all=3D20
> other Paris audio tracks by 64 samples LEAVING intact the =3D
>audio<BR>track 1 for=3D20
> which faderworks ignores the latency.<BR>OVERALL latency is =
displayed
=3D
>on every=3D20
> track too !!<BR>It even substract latency !!!!<BR>So by putting a =
=3D
>waves=3D20
> rencomp (64 samples) on track 2 that does NOT mean<BR>that =
faderworks
=3D
>will=3D20
> delay all others again by 64 samples !! , thus overall<BR>latency =
WILL
=3D
>REMAIN=3D20
> at 64 samples, ONLY track 2 which was already 64 samples<BR>latent =
=3D
>because of=3D20
> track 1 now faderworks just SUBSTRACTS that 64 samples<BR>for this =
=3D
>track=3D20
> !!<BR><BR>Anyone understood what I typed in here ? =3D
>:)<BR>Regards,<BR>Dimitrios=3D20
> <BR><BR>eff H <<A=3D20
> href=3D3D"mailto:jkhoover@excite.com">jkhoover@excite.com</A>>=3D20
> wrote:<BR>>Dimitrios<BR>><BR>>How does this function with =3D
>plugins=3D20
> inside a wrapper, for example <BR>>autotune wrapped inside=3D20
> FFX4?<BR>><BR>>JH<BR>><BR>>wrote:<BR>>> I tried the =3D
>beta1=3D20
> and it is marvelous.<BR>>> It holds 64 presets with latencies so =
=3D
>you can=3D20
> just click the on button<BR>anytime<BR>>> you load the=3D20
> plugin...<BR>>> Regards,<BR>>> Dimitrios<BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
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>you?<BR><A=3D20
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>D.,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>How do you offset the automation after =
it's been=20
written?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>The king of stupid =
questions.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Tom</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV>"Dimitrios" <<A=20
href=3D"mailto:musurgio@otenet.gr">musurgio@otenet.gr</A>> wrote in =
message=20
<A =
href=3D"news:480f206e$1@linux">news:480f206e$1@linux</A>...</DIV><BR>Dear=
=20
Tom,<BR>This is just a plugin so the late

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Re: I found out how to get rid of that "que" pop up in Paris [message #95675 is a reply to message #95673]

Wed, 06 February 2008 11:39

Stevehwan

Messages: 207
Registered: January 2006

Senior Member

;  "Dimitrios" =
<<A=20
href=3D"mailto:musurgio@otenet.gr">musurgio@otenet.gr</A>> wrote in =
message=20
=3D<BR>>news:480cbb3a$1@linux...<BR>><BR>>  =
OK<BR>>  I=20
thought I already explained but maybe I did not use the right=20
words<BR>=3D<BR>>for<BR>>  it :)<BR>><BR>>  You =
put=20
faderworks on one of the native slots (you have four =
right?)<BR>>  I=20
put it on the first one.<BR>>  Then whatever you put on other =
slots it=20
does not matter because =3D<BR>>faderworks<BR>>  always =
does what is=20
supposed to do.<BR>><BR>>  Tom, yes why should you use =
sampleslide=20
when Faderworks has been =3D<BR>>written<BR>>  to do this =
for us only=20
BETTER !<BR>><BR>>  1. You put faderworks 1in/1out on every =
Paris=20
audio track.<BR>>  2. If you wanna use a stereo pair of tracks =
the put=20
the 2in/2out =3D<BR>>faderworks.<BR>>  3. I made a Default =
project=20
with 64 (4 cards) faderworks instances =
=3D<BR>>already<BR>>  loaded=20
so no hassle thereafter...<BR>>  4. If you make a list with =
plugins=20
and latencies (64 for now is more =3D<BR>>than<BR>>  =
enouph) these=20
will be remembered with every new project.<BR>>  Just remember =
to have=20
the button in the OFF state.<BR>>  5. Even if you use FFX4 =
and/or=20
chainer or other wrpper on other =
slots<BR>=3D<BR>>faderworks<BR>> =20
will do whatever is asked to do.<BR>>  6 HERE IS HOW IT =
ACTUALLY=20
WORKS:<BR>>  The default status of the plugin is  to =
ignore the=20
latency status for<BR>=3D<BR>>the<BR>>  track you are =
putting the=20
plugin.<BR>>  For instance.<BR>><BR>>  A. You put a =
waves=20
renvox on track 1 on slot two either standalone=20
or<BR>=3D<BR>>from<BR>>  withing the FFX4 or =
chainer...<BR>> =20
Now the actual latency this plugin introduces is 64 =
samples.<BR>> =20
That MEANS that all other Paris audio tracks are 64 samples ahead of=20
=3D<BR>>track<BR>>  1 or if you like ,track 1 is 64 sample=20
latent.<BR>>  NOW having in mind that you have put Faderworks =
on every=20
track then BY<BR>=3D<BR>>JUST<BR>>  pushing the ON button =
track 1 of=20
the Waves renvox preset then =3D<BR>>Faderworks<BR>>  =
DELAYS all=20
other Paris audio tracks by 64 samples LEAVING intact the=20
=3D<BR>>audio<BR>>  track 1 for which faderworks ignores =
the=20
latency.<BR>>  OVERALL latency is displayed on every track too =

!!<BR>>  It even substract latency !!!!<BR>>  So by =
putting a=20
waves rencomp (64 samples) on track 2 that does NOT=20
=3D<BR>>mean<BR>>  that faderworks will delay all others =
again by 64=20
samples !! , thus =3D<BR>>overall<BR>>  latency WILL REMAIN =
at 64=20
samples, ONLY track 2 which was already 64 =
=3D<BR>>samples<BR>> =20
latent because of track 1 now faderworks just SUBSTRACTS that 64=20
=3D<BR>>samples<BR>>  for this track =
!!<BR>><BR>>  Anyone=20
understood what I typed in here ? :)<BR>>  =
Regards,<BR>> =20
Dimitrios=3D20<BR>><BR>>  eff H <<A=20
href=3D"mailto:jkhoover@excite.com">jkhoover@excite.com</A>>=20
wrote:<BR>>  >Dimitrios<BR>>  ><BR>>  =
>How=20
does this function with plugins inside a wrapper, for =
example=3D20<BR>> =20
>autotune wrapped inside FFX4?<BR>>  ><BR>> =20
>JH<BR>>  ><BR>>  >wrote:<BR>>  =
>> I=20
tried the beta1 and it is marvelous.<BR>>  >> It holds =
64=20
presets with latencies so you can just click the on=20
=3D<BR>>button<BR>>&n

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Re: I found out how to get rid of that "que" pop up in Paris [message #95677 is a reply to message #95675]

Wed, 06 February 2008 10:54

Don Nafe

Messages: 1206
Registered: July 2005

Senior Member

&nbsp" target="_blank">http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html  =20
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Transitional//EN"><BR>><HTML><HEAD> <BR>><META=20
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content=3D3D"MSHTML=20
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D><BR>><BODY=20
bgColor=3D3D#ffffff><BR>><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial=20
=
size=3D3D2>Dimitrios,</FONT></DI V> <BR>><DIV><F=
ONT=20
face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>This all makes sense.  Thank you=20
=3D<BR>>for=3D20<BR>>that.  Now do=20
the</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial =

size=3D3D2>Paris automation lines still work on =3D<BR>>plugins=20
that=3D20<BR>>are =
being</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT=20
face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>compensated for with Faderworks or is =
=3D<BR>>the=20
=
gui=3D20<BR>>screwey?</FONT></DIV> <BR>><DIV><F=
ONT=20
face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Meaning the time is=20
=3D<BR>>offset?</FONT></DIV> <BR>><DIV><FONT =

face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT> =
</DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT=20
face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>When using stereo instances of =
=3D<BR>>Faderworks do=20
=
you=3D20<BR>>actually</FONT></DIV> <BR>><DIV><F=
ONT=20
face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>hit the 'Stereo X box" in the Paris =
=3D<BR>>plugin=20
gui or=3D20<BR>>assign=20
another</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT =
face=3D3DArial=20
size=3D3D2>mono instance for the adjacent =3D<BR>>channel?  =

This=3D20<BR>>has caused trouble=20
</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial=20
size=3D3D2>in my experience </FONT><FONT=20
=3D<BR>>face=3D3DArial=3D20<BR>>size=3D3D2>with mono/stereo =
combinations and=20
Paris.</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT =
face=3D3DArial=20
size=3D3D2></FONT> </DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT =
face=3D3DArial=20
size=3D3D2>Thanks for your answers and when should<BR>=3D<BR>>it =

=
be=3D20<BR>>available?</FONT></DIV> <BR>><DIV><=
FONT=20
face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>I'm=20
ready!</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT =
face=3D3DArial=20
size=3D3D2></FONT> </DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT =
face=3D3DArial=20
size=3D3D2>Tom </FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT =

face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT>=20
=
</DIV><BR>><BLOCKQUOTE=3D20<BR >>style=3D3D"PADDING-RIGHT: =
0px;=20
PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =3D<BR>>BORDER-LEFT: #000000 =
2px solid;=20
MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"><BR>>  <DIV>"Dimitrios"=20
<<A=3D20<BR>>  href=3D3D"<A=20
=
href=3D'mailto:musurgio@otenet.gr">musurgio@otenet.gr</A'>mailto:musurgio=
@otenet.gr">musurgio@otenet.gr</A</A>>>=20
wrote in =3D<BR>>message=3D20<BR>>  <A =
=3D<BR>>href=3D3D"<A=20
=
href=3D'news:480cbb3a$1@linux">news:480cbb3a$1@linux</A>...</DIV><BR>OK<B=
'>news:480cbb3a$1@linux">news:480cbb3a$1@linux</A>...</DIV&gt=
;<BR>OK<B</A>=3D<BR>>R>I=3D20 <BR>> =20
thought I already explained but maybe I did not use the right words=20
=3D<BR>>for<BR>it=3D20<BR>>  =
:)<BR><BR>You put=20
faderworks on one of the native slots (you have=20
four<BR>=3D<BR>><BR>>  right?)<BR>I put it on the =
first=20
one.<BR>Then whatever you put on =3D<BR>>other =
slots=3D20<BR>> =20
it does not matter because faderworks<BR>always does what is=20
supposed<BR>=3D<BR>>to=3D20<BR>>  =
do.<BR><BR>Tom, yes why=20
should you use sampleslide when Faderworks=20
has<BR>=3D<BR>>been=3D20<BR>>  written<BR>to do this =
for us

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Re: I found out how to get rid of that "que" pop up in Paris [message #95683 is a reply to message #95672]

Wed, 06 February 2008 15:10

Robert

Messages: 127
Registered: May 2007

Senior Member

ve me some vague particulars as to what
>>>>> is possible on a native system these days.
>>>>> We regularly rack up track counts of 64 or more, with Paris EQ on almost
>>>>> every channel. Can a native Logic system do that? Is latency an issue?
>>> Would
>>>>> the system be stable and easy to set up and tweak?
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>> Jimmy
>>Dear Tom,
Maybe if you highlight in the automation editor everything and just nudge
back ?
Regards,
Dimitrios

"Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>
>D.,
>
>How do you offset the automation after it's been written?
>
>The king of stupid questions.
>
>Tom
>
>
>
> "Dimitrios" <musurgio@otenet.gr> wrote in message =
>news:480f206e$1@linux...
>
> Dear Tom,
> This is just a plugin so the latencies are just added afterall.
> So the automation could be made before doing any faderworks job and =
>then
> after putting all plugins with their latencies you just look at the =
>overal

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Re: I found out how to get rid of that "que" pop up in Paris [message #95685 is a reply to message #95672]

Wed, 06 February 2008 15:55

Edna Sloan

Messages: 304
Registered: October 2005

Senior Member

How do you offset the automation after
=
>it's been=20
>written?</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>The king of stupid =
>questions.</FONT></DIV>
><DIV> </DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Tom</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
><BLOCKQUOTE=20
>style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =
>BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
> <DIV>"Dimitrios" <<A=20
> href=3D"mailto:musurgio@otenet.gr">musurgio@otenet.gr</A>> wrote in =
>message=20
> <A =
>href=3D"news:480f206e$1@linux">news:480f206e$1@linux</A>...</DIV><BR>Dear=
>=20
> Tom,<BR>This is just a plugin so the latencies are just added =
>aft

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Re: I found out how to get rid of that "que" pop up in Paris [message #95692 is a reply to message #95672]

Wed, 06 February 2008 19:32

Rod Lincoln
Messages: 883
Registered: September 2005

Senior Member

hassle=3D3D20<BR>> =20
>  thereafter...<BR>4. If you make a list with plugins =
and=20
latencies =3D<BR>>(64<BR>>  =3D3D<BR>>  >for=20
now=3D3D20<BR>>  >  is more than<BR>enouph) =
these will be=20
remembered with every =3D<BR>>new=3D3D20<BR>>  > =20
project.<BR>Just remember to have the button in the OFF=20
=3D<BR>>state.<BR>5. =3D3D<BR>>  >Even =
if=3D3D20<BR>> =20
>  you use FFX4 and/or chainer or other wrpper on other slots=20
=3D3D<BR>>  >faderworks<BR>will=3D3D20<BR>>  =
> =20
do whatever is asked to do.<BR>6 HERE IS HOW IT ACTUALLY=20
=3D<BR>>WORKS:<BR>The<BR>>  =3D3D<BR>> =20
>default=3D3D20<BR>>  >  status of the plugin =
is  to=20
ignore the latency status for =3D3D<BR>> =20
>the<BR>track=3D3D20<BR>>  >  you are putting =
the=20

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