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OT - video from another dimension... [message #93227]

Sat, 01 December 2007 01:49

steve the artguy
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Registered: June 2005

Senior Member

;
>> No, it isn't another "one of those" :-)
>>
>> Where are their desktops you quoted? I didn't see them in the Apple store
>>
>
>
>> under "Mac Pro".
>> I wasn't talking about Mac minis. They are cool, but limited since

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Re: OT - video from another dimension... [message #93229 is a reply to message #93227]

Sat, 01 December 2007 01:05

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Registered: July 2005

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>>>> price, and only options for dual quad cores,
>>>> no range below that for people who don't need "blinding speed" to write
>>>>
>>> book
>>>
>>>> reports ;-).
>>>>
>>>> There are 2 laptop model choices, ranging between $1100 and $2800 for
>>>>
> one
>
>>> of
>>>
>>>> the six base models. In the PC world
>>>> there are choices in each category at pretty much every $100 increment,
>>>>
>>>> starting at $300 and going up to $10k+. Not that I would buy a $300
>>>> desktop, but I still come back to the laptop I'm typi

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I like this one too. [message #93230 is a reply to message #93227]

Sat, 01 December 2007 01:06

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ng this on, costing
>>>>
>>>> significantly less than the least expe

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Re: OT - video from another dimension... [message #93235 is a reply to message #93229]

Sat, 01 December 2007 07:19

Chris Ludwig

Messages: 868
Registered: May 2006

Senior Member

ho, Shelly's reasoning is based on the
>>>>
>>> fact
>>>
>>>> that he's enamoured with the chique (sp?) of Apple, rather than just
>>>> getting
>>>>
>>>> what he needs, and that without a mystical, glorious Keynote unveiling
>>>>
> of
>
>>>> trend setting products, that chique doesn't last long. Imho, that chique
>>>>
>>> is
>>>
>>>> hurting consumers as it keeps Apple's product prices higher, with less
>>>>
>
>
>>>> range
>>>>
>>>> of price point competition, but for Apple customers, price doesn't seem
>>>>
>>> to
>>>
>>>> be a concern. Basically Apple has its' customers right where it wants
>>>>
>
>
>>>> them.
>>>>
>>>> Imho, it should be the other way around, and then we would truly have
>>>>
> more
>
>>>> choices.
>>>>
>>>> re: BeOS.... same here.
>>>>
>>>> Dedric
>>>>
>>> Here we go again! Apple has desk top models und

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Re: OT - If Bob Dylan were still alive he's sound like this [message #93237 is a reply to message #93229]

Sat, 01 December 2007 12:02

steve the artguy
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Registered: June 2005

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,199.00
>>> or as low as $29 a month
>>>
>>> . 2.4GHz Intel Core 2 Duo
>>> . 1GB memory
>>> . 320GB hard drive1
>>> . 8x double-layer SuperDrive
>>> . ATI Radeon HD 2600 PRO with 256MB memory
>>>
>>> $1,499.00
>>> or as low as $36 a month
>>>
>>> . 2.4GHz Intel Core 2 Duo
>>> . 1GB memory
>>> . 320GB hard drive1
>>&g

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Re: OT - video from another dimension... [message #93238 is a reply to message #93235]

Sat, 01 December 2007 12:06

steve the artguy
Messages: 308
Registered: June 2005

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t; . 8x double-layer SuperDrive
>>> . ATI Radeon HD 2600 PRO with 256MB memory
>>>
>>> $1,799.00
>>> or as low as $43 a month
>>>
>>>
>>> Or are we going to argue form factor?
>>>
>>>
>>>> "Jamie K" <Meta@Dimensional.com> wrote in message news:4790eeca@linux...
>>>>
>>>>> Dedric Terry wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Shelly's complaints, however generalized, pretty much echo that of
>>>>>>
>
>
>>>>>> every
>>>>>>
>>>>>> PC user who's passed on going the Mac route:
>>>>>> There is one price point with Apple Macs: $2000 and up. Sure, more
>>>>>> computer is more computer, but most people just don't need
>>>>>> the bleeding edge for $2-4k to email Aunt Sally and store the family
>>>>>>
>>>>>> photo album.
>>>>>>
>>>>> I don't think that's what he's saying. The box he's complaining about
>>>>>
>>> _is_
>>>
>>>>> under $2K (configured the way most people who care about price would
>>>>>
> buy
>
>>>>> it). Just because he stupidly overpaid for his Mac doesn't mean others
>>>>>
>>>>> will. But if

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Re: OT - If Bob Dylan were still alive he's sound like this [message #93239 is a reply to message #93237]

Sat, 01 December 2007 11:47

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Registered: July 2005

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that's your complaint, there are Macs for less than $2k.
>>>>>
>>>>> If the general complaint about Apple is price, then it should be noted
>>>>>
>>>>> that the new desktop boxes are less expensive than Dell's, and the new
>>>>>
>>>>> super light notebook is less expensive than Sony's (and under 2K in
>>>>>
> the
>
>>>>> standard configuration).
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> The MacBook, feels cheap, and while it has good specs and isn't really
>>>>>>
>>>>>> out of line with a comparable PC laptop, it sits alone in it's sub
>>>>>>

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Re: OT - video from another dimension... [message #93258 is a reply to message #93227]

Sun, 02 December 2007 01:47

Sarah

Messages: 608
Registered: February 2007

Senior Member

n still do some pro work even on a Mac Mini. The Mac Mini can
be
>> up graded to 2GB of RAM, and you can up grade the processor. The iMac
can
>> be upgraded to 4GB of RAM, and it comes with a higher quality 20" monitor
>> that you will find bundled with the typical PC in the same price range.

>> A single Quad core MacPro tower costs $2299.00, and there are discounts
off
>> that price.
>>
>>> They seem like a potentially nice solution for a sample library farm

>>> machine, but if Ram is limited to 2G, then
>>> it wouldn't work for what I need. I know other composers that considere

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Re: OT - video from another dimension... [message #93263 is a reply to message #93235]

Sun, 02 December 2007 10:32

Paul Braun

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>>>>> price, and only options for dual quad cores,
>>>>> no range below that for people who don't need "blinding speed" to write
>>>>>
>>>> book
>>>>
>>>>> reports ;-).
>>>>>
>>>>> There are 2 laptop model choices, ranging between $1100 and $2800 for
>>>>>
>> one
>>
>>>> of
>>>>
>>>>> the six base models. In the PC world
>>>>> there are choices in each category at pretty much every $100 increment,
>>>>>
>>>>> starting at $300 and going up to $10k+. Not that I would buy a $300
>>>>> desktop, but I still come back to the laptop I'm typing this on, costing
>>>>>
>>>>> significantly less than the least expensive Macbook (current) and only
>>>>>
>> a
>>

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Re: OT - video from another dimension... [message #93269 is a reply to message #93263]

Sun, 02 December 2007 14:05

steve the artguy
Messages: 308
Registered: June 2005

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be
>>>>
>>>>>> less motivated to give you stuff you like. So keep buying what moves
>>>>>>
>>
>>
>>>>>> you,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> be it Apple or someone else.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The same is true of desktops. So his point is based on his opening
>>>>>>> comments about being enamoured with all things Apple.
>>>>>>> Sure, he could have gone cheaper, but money is hardly a concern for
>>>>>>> Shelly considering his success - it's just a reference point
>>>>>>> that he could have spent 1/3 of what he did and accomplished the
same
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> amount of work, but being enamoured with Apple, he goes for the gold
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> instead. In other words, he's a victim of clever marketing - getting
>>>>>>>
>>>> you
>>>>
>>>>>>> to buy way more than you need or want.
>>>>>&g

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Re: OT - video from another dimension... [message #93278 is a reply to message #93258]

Sun, 02 December 2007 14:51

Messages: 1124
Registered: July 2005

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> >James McCloskey wrote:
> FYI, with the MacBook Pro 17" you can quickly plug in to a desk top monitor
> up to 30". If you want a lap top you still want portability, that kind of
> a combination might work well for you, and you have dual monitors with that
> set up, not to mention you can run Windows and Mac OS on the MacBook Pro.
> There are rumors of a 24" MacBook Pro coming, this I've got to see.

15" is a nice size. 17" is on the edge of too big (but I'm probably
going there due to the HD display).

But a 24" lapto

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Re: OT - video from another dimension... [message #93287 is a reply to message #93258]

Sun, 02 December 2007 20:41

Chris Ludwig

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Registered: May 2006

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t;>>>>>
>>>>>>>> with a brand mainly to be brand loyal and hip while having no choice
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> under $2-4k or more, how else do you evaluate the two options?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> If you're implying that the only reason people buy Macs is to be
"brand
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> loyal and hip," you're wrong. That doesn't apply to most of the Mac
>>>>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>>>> users
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I know, who own Macs to get work done and chose them as the preferred
>>>>>>>
>>>>> tool
>>>>>
>>>>>>> given the options. Frankly, I would rather be using BeOS but that
>choice
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> was torpedoed.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> His comparison may not be technically fair on the Air, but he is
>right
>>>>>>>>
>>>>> -
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>

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Re: OT - video from another dimension... [message #93291 is a reply to message #93227]

Mon, 03 December 2007 06:30

Bill L

Messages: 766
Registered: August 2006

Senior Member

the market is today. I have the rare opportunity to get one, with a
>"sky
>>is the limit" budget. To make a long story short, my wife is going to
be
>
>>laid up for about 6 weeks and requires the use of a laptop to do her work.
>
>>Once we started talking, we realized that between the both of us, we could
>
>>put it to good use: her for her business use, and me with remote music

>>possiblities. So we decided to go hog wild and split the cost.
>>
>>So far, I'm tossing between a HP Pavilion HDX and a Dell XPS M2010.
>>Primarily, we want a 20" laptop with lots of power (both CPU and memory).
>
>>If Apple made a 20" laptop, I'd be all over it, but what can you do.
>>
>>A

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