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| Re: I think I'm gonna hurl... [message #91362 is a reply to message #91355] |
Fri, 12 October 2007 11:21  |
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Gantt Kushner
Gizmo Recording Company
Silver Spring, MD
www.gizmorecording.com
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| Re: I think I'm gonna hurl... [message #91373 is a reply to message #91363] |
Fri, 12 October 2007 13:16 |
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enerate. Really, this is probably nothing, and
>> people have played better than I can play with much greater
>> impediments - I think I am so nervous about it because
>> honestly, so much of what I do is at the edge of my abilities
>> anyway, I think if I lose any technical abilities at all, it's
>> going to just throw me back into not even being able to execute
>> anywhere near whatever level that I've managed to play at thus
>> far. Which brings me to random thought #2...
>>
>> 2.) So in a slightly nostalgic (will I be able to play half-ass
>> decent again?) mode due to #1 , I broke out some things that I
>> had done in the past - stupid, right? lol Anyway, I hadn't
>> heard this stuff in a LONG time - some years, actually, and a
>> few things occurred to me, namely:
>>
>> 2a.) Analog tape absolutely has something different on the
>> low end that I just don't believe you can get out of digital
>> AT ALL. Now this is my own stuff, so I know it well;
>> recorded to analog on two different formats (2" 24 track
>> Dolby SR, and 1" 16-track DBX) and mixed through three
>> different consoles (Trident 24 & SSL 4000 for the various 2"
>> stuff, and a Tascam of some kind for the 1" stuff), and some
>> of it was mixed down to tape & some of it was mixed down to
>> DAT, and the ONE THING that's consistent among it, is a
>> certain sort of smooth strength to the low end... it's not a
>> distortion (Charles Dye), it's not just a "bump" somewhere
>> (Because the tape speeds varied - Tascam 1" was 15IPS,
>> Studer 2" was at 30IPS, so the "bumps" are at different
>> frequencies), it's a certain something that's totally
>> missing from digital, and as I said, the only way I can
>> describe it is that it's very strong & present, yet smooth.
>> To me, digital low end sounds "hollow" compared to this.
>> Just pointing this out. It's what miss about tape, I think.
>>
>> 2b.) The dbx 902 is absolutely the best de-esser on the
>> planet - I need to get one & just leave it inserted on lead
>> vocal channnels - or someone needs to port this to a plugin.
>> Listening to it again, on stuff that I know that I used
Gantt Kushner
Gizmo Recording Company
Silver Spring, MD
www.gizmorecording.com
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| Re: I think I'm gonna hurl... [message #91374 is a reply to message #91367] |
Fri, 12 October 2007 13:20 |
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it
>> on, really reveals this. No plugin comes close - again, it's
>> a vibe thing ifyaknowwhatimsayin'.
>>
>> 2c.) I know it was an 80's trick; but DAMN, triggering some
>> pink or white noise on the snare really makes it sound
>> farking HUGE! lol I may start doing this again! lol
>>
>> and finally on the nostalgia front...
>>
>> 2d.) Damn, I could sing a lot higher then.
>> 2e.) Damn, I could play a lot faster then.
>>
>> lol
>>
>> 4.) I'm in a creative slump/composers' block - brought on by
>> a combination of external influences, no doubt... too much
>> metal exposure recently, for one - it's hard for me to get out
>> of one mode & into another - I find I have to kind of "purify"
>> or go through "musical detox" from one genre to another, so I
>> listen to something completely opposite of what I've been doing
>> for a period. When I did this all the time it was easy to
>> switch - I could be nimble in terms of working on &
>> contributing to a jazz project one week & a C&W project the
>> next, but it seems with greater distances between projects &
>> more time spent on each particular one, it's harder to get out
>> of a certain mode & get back into something else, like writing,
>> for example (in this case). Ever experience that? Used to be
>> I'd listen to "So" over & over for a day & I was "clear" -
>> not 'so' anymore (pun intended LOL).
>>
>>
>> And the last random thought for the evening...
>>
>> 4.) As I was listening to Aja, again, for the dozenth or so
>> time in my attempt to get "clear" (but NOT in the manner that
>> Bill Lorentzen would interpret that! lol) , it occurred to me
>> that the likelihood is that there will NEVER, ever, again, be
>> another "Aja", which made me quite sad upon realizing said
>> revelation. I've come to this determaination based on the
&
Gantt Kushner
Gizmo Recording Company
Silver Spring, MD
www.gizmorecording.com
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| Re: I think I'm gonna hurl... [message #91375 is a reply to message #91374] |
Fri, 12 October 2007 13:26 |
steve the artguy
Messages: 308
Registered: June 2005
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gt;> following theorems:
>>
>> 4a.) Becker & Fagen notwithstanding, there simply aren't any
>> artists out there at this time that can conglomerate the
>> level of talent in the kind of numbers necessary to
>> promulgate this kind of endeavor... there USED to be more -
>> sure, any A-list artist could & can hire top-level talent,
>> but to what purpose? To achieve something like this? Nope.
>> Who did so, even back then? Steely Dan, Joni Mitchell,
>> Peter Gabriel (in different genres, but still...)
>>
>> 4b.) There simply ARE no musicians of this caliber left!
>> Well, I might be overstating it, but back in "the day", you
>> could pretty much walk down any street in New York or LA &
>> trip over half a dozen Larry Carltons or Bernard Purdies...
>> where do you eve find people like that anymore? Sure,
>> they're out there, but where? Who can find them? Are enough
>> of them concentrated around where someone wants to record
>> so that they can be put to work on a project? I doubt it.
>>
>> 4c.) The economics of the biz has changed... who gets the
>> kind of budget anymore where you can afford to have seven
>> different A-list guitarists (if you can even find that many)
>> hit the solo on "Peg" a few times each until someone nails a
>> take you like? In this same line of questioning, who can
>> expect to sell enough records anymore without even going on
>> tour so they don't have to worry about recouping, so
>> they can sit at home doing nothing but writing & perfecting
>> this shit for two or three years until it's at this kind of
>> level? Who gets the kind of budget where you can essentially
>> have five different bands record a basic track on a song
>> until you get the one you like? NOBODY! Some rich rockstar
>> like Chad Kroeger of Nickelback would have to decide they
>> wanted to do some kind of project like this & put their own
>> money into it & hire the best people, the best musicians,
>> the best recording engineers, etc, etc, etc, and then
>> ultimately what would happen is that the label would get
>> ahold of it, and then would just turn around & send it off
>> to Chris Lord-Alge to mix, and it would come back sounding
>> just like Nickelback. lol
>>
>> So, the era of "Aja's" is gone, which I guess explains why we
>> haven't heard anything like it since... there will be no more
>> "Sgt. Peppers", no more "Pet Sounds" or "Rumours" or "Hejira's",
>> there will be the occasional song that kicks ass just because
>> chaos th
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| Re: I think I'm gonna hurl... [message #91391 is a reply to message #91373] |
Fri, 12 October 2007 16:27 |
rick
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Registered: February 2006
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work. ;o)
>>
>>Cheers,
>>Kim.
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>>"Neil" <IOU@OIU.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>I'm gonna agree & disagree with your post (Seems I do that a
>>>lot with you, don't I, Bill? lol!).
>>>
>>>I'll agree with the part about keep on writing/trying, going
>>>back to the bit you're "stuck" on or writing something
>>>different or some combination of that, but I don't think
>>>just "doing it" is the solution in & of itself... I think
>>>that just tends to make you force something out that fits...
>>>That's easy - anyone ca do that, really. The point is to try &
>>>find the PERFECT part that fits; which is something that tends
>>>to find you more than you finding it.
>>>
>>>So, yeah don't just not do ANYTHING musical while you wait for
>>>something to show up inspiration-wise, work on some other
>>>stuff, make some progress in other tunes, etc., but don't force
>>>the one you're obsessing about - find the "right" music for the
>>>part you're trying to complete... it's out there somewhere!
>>>
>>>
>>>Neil
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>>>
>>>
>>>Bill L <bill@billlorentzen.com> wrote:
>>>>Yeah, it happens, but the only way to get past it is to keep on writing.
>>>
>>>> It's you that creates it. It doesn't come from anywhere else but you.
>>>
>>>>It's like a muscle, the more you use it the stronger it gets. Waiting
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>>>>for inspiration is OK if you only want to write occasionally.
>>>>
>>>>I remember a cartoon in The New Yorker magazine:
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>>>>First frame, a guy is sitting at his typewriter blankly looking out the
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>>>>window. Caption, "Writer's Block - Temporary"
>>>>
>>>>Second frame: Same guy is standing behind a butcher shop counter with
>an
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>>>>apron, blankly looking out the window. Caption, "Writer's Block - Permanent"
>>>>
>>>>I sometimes go for a run, to get a change of environment, then when I
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>>>>get an idea, I call my home answering machine. Collaborating is a good
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>>>>way to keep it flowing. Lots of writers do that.
>>>>
>>>>But don't sit and wait. Write, even if it seems to suck. It will get
>>>>better. And sometimes suckage is in the eye of the beholder. It might
>be
>>>
>>>>good.
>>>>
>>>>That reminds
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| Re: I think I'm gonna hurl... [message #91394 is a reply to message #91388] |
Fri, 12 October 2007 17:18 |
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kinda the source, but the general concept
>>and state of mind is the same.
>>
>>And of course it is the nature of "flow" that you allow it, rather than
>causing
>>it. You might need to learn to become a tap, but once you are one, you
don't
>>force water through yourself, you just release the pressure. :o)
>>
>>I probably prattled on a little too much about language semantics in my
>last
>>post. No need to do so again. ;o)
>>
>>Cheers,
Gantt Kushner
Gizmo Recording Company
Silver Spring, MD
www.gizmorecording.com
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