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at least four submix stems, then
import those into a new project either for a straight-ahead
group mixdown or mastering & you can DEFINITELY hear a
difference that way. It's not a huge difference, but it's
definitely one you'll notice.

I'm pretty sure the Steinberg stuff is the only DAW solution
that will do literally everything you specify above, without
exception.

NeilHey, nice rack! (err.... I mean the rack for mounting the toms
& cymbals on).

That's a nice setup, there, Tony. What's the I see off to your
left near the hats - is that a drum pad/e-drum rig of some
kind? Can't tell.

Neil



Tony Benson <tony@standinghampton.com> wrote:
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>My band opened for The Little River Band last night and a friend got a
>couple of decent
Re: Kewl toys..... [message #73323 is a reply to message #73319] Fri, 29 September 2006 20:32 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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;If I use a clock generator I will need 8-10 clock outputs to clock everything.
>I don't wanna spend more than 600-700 $ for a complete wordclock setup that
>will be stable and hassle free and soundwise better than Paris clock.
>I thought of the HOSA cheap and a distributor.
>I thought of having ADI-PRO8 rme as master and buy just a distributor like
>Drawmer 20 out (!!!) D-clock device whic sells for 700 $ but I am afraid
>of RME as master.
>Anyone to rescue me ?
>Regards,
>Dimitrios
>Sweet..
"James McCloskey&
Re: Kewl toys..... [message #73405 is a reply to message #73323] Sun, 01 October 2006 00:07 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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e I've tried. the only other =
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that I know of that *might* be able to pull this off is NI KORE. Though =
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their B4, Bandstand, etc., KORE does not appear ready for prime time, =
IMO, and=20
for the pruposes I envision, is definitely overkill with a big price =
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with Forte that the Senderella code was used for their aux bus plugin =
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I don't want to yank anyone's chain =
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at Brainspawn. Let me know if you are interested in pursuing =
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>You can PM me if you want at <A=20
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------=_NextPart_000_0123_01C6EF95.74BDD000--How about buying some Behringer ADA 8000's and just review the a/d d/a line
level sections for me. Forget the preamps. I want to know if they sound
as fantastic as I'm reading on a variety of sites.

But some RME multifaces too and compare. Thanks !!

hehe,
JohnHey DJ,

Quick question on your method... why are you nudging *all*
Paris tracks? Seems pointless unless you meant nudge all
tracks being used for external inserts only.

Just checking ;-)

David.

DJ wrote:
> First, I'll review my working method so far:
>
> Basically where we are with this is as follows:
>
> I can stream tracks from Paris *through* Forte, applying UAD-1 and other
> VST plugins and it appears that this would be usable in a mix scenatio
> with Paris automation.
>
> Here are the steps involved if buffers for the native audio card are set
> to 512k:
>
> Paris Editor: highlight all Paris tracks and nudge to the left by 10 + 1
> samples to compensate for buffer latency in native DAW
> Paris Mixer: External insert in EDS inserts, Sampleslide on native
> insert set to 48 samples to achieve sample accuracy with buffer latency.
> ( this will ned to be done for every track in the mix)
>
snipBehringer and I don't get along.

"John" <no@no.com> wrote in message news:45314846$1@linux...
>
> How about buying some Behringer ADA 8000's and just review the a/d d/a
line
> level sections for me. Forget the preamps. I want to know if they sound
> as fantastic as I'm reading on a variety of sites.
>
> But some RME multifaces too and compare. Thanks !!
>
> hehe,
> JohnDave,

All tracks are being played back through Paris. The point of this is to have
all tracks crossing the editor timeline simultaneously w
Re: Kewl toys..... [message #73421 is a reply to message #73405] Sun, 01 October 2006 14:31 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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... why are you nudging *all*
> >> >> Paris tracks? Seems pointless unless you meant nudge all
> >> >> tracks being used for external inserts only.
> >> >>
> >> >> Just checking ;-)
> >> >>
> >> >> David.
> >> >>
> >> >> DJ wrote:
> >> >> > First, I'll review my working method so far:
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Basically where we are with this is as follows:
> >> >> >
> >> >> > I can stream tracks from Paris *through* Forte, applying UAD-1 and
> >> >> > other
> >> >> > VST plugins and it appears that this would be usable in a mix
> >scenatio
> >> >> > with Paris automation.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Here are the steps involved if buffers for the native audio card
> are
> >> >> > set
> >> >> > to 512k:
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Paris Editor: highlight all Paris tracks and nudge to the left by
> 10
> >+
> >> >> > 1
> >> >> > samples to compensate for buffer latency in native DAW
> >> >> > Paris Mixer: External insert in EDS inserts, Sampleslide on native
> >> >> > insert set to 48 samples to achieve sample accuracy with buffer
> >> >> > latency.
> >> >> > ( this will ned to be done for every track in the mix)
> >> >> >
> >> >> snip
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
>I'm doing a 36 track mix in Cubase SX right now with 8 x stereo stems routed
to Paris submix 1. Very stable. Sounding better and better as I go. I feel
sorta' like I just stepped in poo, but as I get the hang of it I'm thinking
I just might be able to achieve something *very nice*.
Neil/Martin/LaMont/Dedric..et al, are correct about the mix bus being much
improved these days. It's just a different journey to get there.

I'd *really* like to get this thing happening with Forte but unless we can
get enough folks together to justify it for the developer, We're getting
close to finishing some tracking on a project here and the mixes are coming
up pretty soon so it's getting to be close to time to take off the lab coat,
put Igor back in the dungeon and think in terms of getting these up and
ready to go.

I've thought through using 3 x computers running Forte. I would need to get
another Multiface and another UAD-1 to get this happening the way I need to
and the thought of simultaneously digitally bussing multiple outboard FX
processors through three computers is making me sorta queasy. Without each
interface receiving a BNC feed directly off the house clock (which they
can't do), this is a trainwreck in the making and then I'm back to square 1.
I would have to do this in order to accomplish the aux routing across
submixes that I would want to do and I'm already fried just thinking about
this one.

(sigh)"Martin Harrington" <lendan@bigpond.net.au> wrote:
>I thought Chuck D developed a rewire plugin for Paris...or am I totally
an
>idiot, (probably).

I think you're getting confused with the "wires" add-on which was included
in the effects subsystem patch that Chuck and co developed. This doesn't
work with rewire however, it simply increases your patching options around
Paris itself.

Cheers,
Kim.


>--
>Martin Harrington
>www.lendanear-sound.com
>
>"Don Nafe" <dnafe@magma.ca> wrote in message news:45315d4f@linux...
>> Well I did say it was a dumb question...sheesh!
>>
>> ;-)
>>
>> D
>>
>> "DJ" <notachance@net.net> wrote in message news:45315bad@linux...
>>> Paris barely supports VST, much less Rewire.
>>>
>>> "Don Nafe" <dnafe@magma.ca> wrote in message news:45315b3f@linux...
>>>> dumb Q - why couldn't you do this with rewire and cubase on the same
>>>> machine as Paris or does Paris not support it?
>>>>
>>>> Don
>>>>
>>>> "DJ" <notachance@net.net> wrote in message news:45315886@linux...
>>>> > Th
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