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Re: I would like to discuss Paris - anybody?.... anybody? [message #57794 is a reply to message #57775] Mon, 05 September 2005 03:22 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Re: I would like to discuss Paris - anybody?.... anybody? [message #57802 is a reply to message #57775] Mon, 05 September 2005 06:53 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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>
> Thanks so very much for the tracks. I enjoyed listening to them from a
musical
> perspective as well as a technical one. I am curious as to the signal path
> from mic to Paris for these sessions if you recall. Also, how many
interchangeable
> capsules are th
Re: I would like to discuss Paris - anybody?.... anybody? [message #57803 is a reply to message #57802] Mon, 05 September 2005 07:27 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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ere? I'll check the web to see what I can dig up.
>
> Cool photo...I had not received it under my e-mail account, but noticed
the
> attachment when I came to respond.
>
> Again, many thanks!
>
> Tyrone
>Hey Gantt,

I have been told (I'm not a MAC guy, well, not since 7.2!) that MAC's
can read NTFS formatted discs for file transfer purposes. This means
you *should* be able to take the PC drive and drag its contents to
your MAC and open them up. The only other issue I can think of would
possibly be file extension naming.

David.

Gantt Kushner wrote:
> The session cancelled, but thanks!
Re: I would like to discuss Paris - anybody?.... anybody? [message #57809 is a reply to message #57803] Mon, 05 September 2005 09:08 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I also
> >don't
> >> >know anything about the capsules that Mojave is using. I will say that
> >the
> >> >original Marshallcapsules that were used in my mics sounded excellent.
> >The
> >> >Peluso capsules have a bit more detail to my ears. This is slight, but
> >> >audible in the *car key* test. The Mojave has very good mid and HF
> >handling
> >> >characteristics and is very flattering to the human voice with a very
> >warm
> >> >bottom which is, inthe case of my mics, probably due to the Jensen
> >> >transformers.
> >> >
> >> >The SE Gemini sounds similar in some ways. The bottom sounds different
> >from
> >> >the Mojave, probably due to the fact that there is a tube at the
output
> >> >stage rather than a transformer. I haven't played around with this as
> >much
> >> >as I intend to, but I can envision a bit of variety by switc
Re: I would like to discuss Paris - anybody?.... anybody? [message #57863 is a reply to message #57809] Mon, 05 September 2005 16:30 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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> > >
> > > Yeah, I'm using a short rounder cable, I've tried several, all =
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> > >
> > > Rod
> > >
> > > EK Sound <spamnot.info@eksoundNO.com> wrote:
> > >>Are you using a nice "short" high density IDE cable? Try CS mode
=
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> > >>the drive to see if this helps also.
> > >>
> > >>David.
> > >>
> > >>Rod Lincoln wrote:
> > >>
> > >>> they say 66/100/133
> > >>> Rod
> > >>> EK Sound <spamnot.info@eksoundNO.
Re: I would like to discuss Paris - anybody?.... anybody? [message #57876 is a reply to message #57863] Mon, 05 September 2005 18:56 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Re: I would like to discuss Paris - anybody?.... anybody? [message #57882 is a reply to message #57876] Tue, 06 September 2005 03:40 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Re: I would like to discuss Paris - anybody?.... anybody? [message #57900 is a reply to message #57876] Tue, 06 September 2005 10:05 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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t of the tracks for 2048 or 4096
NOTE : I have wrapped chainer from Spinaudio to have the 4096 lower latency
and have all VU and buttons working.
Note that Spinaudio is free for one plugin so you can wrap only Chainer ...

If you don't have chainer and don't wanna mess with all that stuff here is a
workaround.

On track 1 (kick) you put senderella1wrapped from Spinaudiofree. On track
2 senderella 1 again , both tracks as sends with desired amount of volume.
On tracks 15 and 16 you put as stereo file the Spinaudiowrapped Senderella1
as return and then on second Paris slot as stereo the free FFX4 (DX
chainer)
This gives again the 4096 sample latency for UAD plugins and you load there
your UAD reverb
Thus you have the above again situation.

NOTE :
YOU MUST USE EDSTransfer 8,16 for senderella to work.
Regards,
DimitriosHere is my method if you don't have or want to buy chainer.

On track 1 (kick) you put senderella1 wrapped from Spinaudiofree. On track
2 senderella 1 again , both tracks as sends with desired amount of volume.
Don't fprget to redirct on snderella when sending in order not to have
double hits.

On tracks 15 and 16 you put as stereo file the Spinaudiowrapped Senderella1
as return and then on second Paris slot as stereo the free FFX4 (DX
chainer)
This gives again the 4096 sample latency for UAD plugins and you load there
your UAD reverb

I put there 16 bit mono Paf silenced files.


NOTE :
YOU MUST USE EDSTransfer 8,16 for senderella to work.
Regards,
DimitriosNow to compensate for the 4096 samples delay you do the following.
Put on each track (tracks 1 and 2 (kick-snare) voxengo FREE sample delay for
4096 samples latency.
Now all tracks are delayed except for the revrbed ones because the
senderella is sending BEFORE voxengo .
Regards,
Dimitrios


"Dimitrios" <musurgio@otenet.gr> wrote in message news:4346dfe8@linux...
> Here is my method if you don't have or want to buy chainer.
>
> On track 1 (kick) you put senderella1 wrapped from Spinaudiofree. On
track
> 2 senderella 1 again , both tracks as sends with desired amount of volume.
> Don't fprget to redirct on snderella when sending in order not to have
> double hits.
>
> On tracks 15 and 16 you put as stereo file the Spinaudiowrapped
Senderella1
> as return and then on second Paris slot as stereo the free FFX4 (DX
> chainer)
> This gives again the 4096 sample latency for UAD plugins and you load
there
> your UAD reverb
>
> I put there 16 bit mono Paf silenced files.
>
>
> NOTE :
> YOU MUST USE EDSTransfer 8,16 for senderella to work.
> Regards,
> Dimitrios
>
>
>NP
Dimitrios
"Rod Lincoln" <rlincoln@kc.rr.com> wrote in message news:4346dc9b$1@linux...
>
> Thanks!
> Rod
> "Dimitrios" <

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Re: I would like to discuss Paris - anybody?.... anybody? [message #57905 is a reply to message #57900] Tue, 06 September 2005 11:58 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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????? help
would be great
Thanks
ScottShow me the way, brother D.
AA


"Dimitrios" <musurgio@otenet.gr> wrote in message news:4346b195@linux...
> There is this called multifxvst chainer that when inserted from within
> chainer or Spinaudio (alone crashes Paris) it wrapps UAD1 plugins (and not
> only) and lower the latency down to 2048 samples only !
> That is 46.44 ms at 44.1khz
> This compared to 16384 samples of FXpansion is a big leap forward.
> Chainer (wrapped with Spinaudio again) has a latency of 4096 samples.
> This is free still in beta version but works fine (only from inside
> chainer)
> It must sound stupid to have to wrap chainer from Spinaudio and then load
> multifxvst from inside Chainer, but if you want low latency (remember 2048
> latency) you do this once and then just open the Spinaudiowrapped chainer
> and load multifxvst.
> Because of the lower la
Re: I would like to discuss Paris - anybody?.... anybody? [message #57930 is a reply to message #57905] Tue, 06 September 2005 19:18 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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e????
>>
>>
>>"Mike Claytor" <claytor@nospam.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>"Mike Claytor" <claytor@nospam.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> htt
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p://gearslutz.com/board/showthread.php3?p=450412#post4504 12
>>>
>>>Zombies, eh?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm..............brains!
>>
>Yeah, I should clarify, what I actaully want to do is upgrade a tube mic,
not transform a mxl2001 into a tube mic. A lower noise floor is the main
goal.


"cujo" <chris@applemanstudio.com> wrote:
>
>
>Oh, Dj told me you'd closed up shop, Just figured I'd ask.
>This mod will work on pretty much any tub mic?
>
>
>
>"Mike Claytor" <

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Re: I would like to discuss Paris - anybody?.... anybody? [message #57932 is a reply to message #57931] Tue, 06 September 2005 20:28 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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lank">claytor@nospam.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>Man, my plate is mucho full. I've got projects a year old that i need to
>finish!
>>
>>Really, all i've done is take the Royer mod and apply it to different mics.
>>It's REAL easy if ya know which end of the soldering iron is the hot end.
>>
>>If yer clueless on this stuff (and if memory serves, you're not!) it's
still
>>an easy project.
>>
>>Keep the capsule and body and just wire in the Royer circuit, etc.
>>
>>I've got geetars, pre-amps, mics, landscaping, truck repair, etc. stacked
>>up on me and just can't take on any outside stuff at this time.
>>
>>deadline stress is bad for Mikey!
>>
>>...and hey! Texas beat OU and we've got a.......cabrito, although it looks
>>like a Doberman to me....on a spit! Dobey tacos and ice cold beer! Yeah
>buddy!!!
>>
>>life is ......weird.
>>
>>
>>
>>"cujo" <chris@applemanstudio.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>Hey Mike, Wanna mod a mic for me????
>>>
>>>
>>>"Mike Claytor" <claytor@nospam.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>"Mike Claytor" <claytor@nospam.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> http://gearslutz.com/board/showthread.php3?p=450412#post4504 12
>>>>
>>>>Zombies, eh?
>>>>
>>>
Re: I would like to discuss Paris - anybody?.... anybody? [message #57934 is a reply to message #57932] Tue, 06 September 2005 20:51 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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br /> > >> > Thanks for the Email.
> >> > I am going to bombard you wiht questions soon.
> >> > I need to make a ghost of my sytem first.
> >> > How do you mak a silent PAF file?
> >> > Sorry if this is a dumb question.
> >> >
> >> > "Dimitrios" <musurgio@otenet.gr> wrote:
> >> >>He,
> >> >>Yeah well,
> >> >>I didn't mean to make any harm to your system....
> >> >>
> >> >>EDSTransfer 8,16 is better and more relaxed than 8,8.
> >> >>I use this for 4-5 months now ,no problem at all.
> >> >>The 8,8 causes slow disk transfers with many tracks.
> >> >>
> >> >>Yes your old UAD1 wraps are 16384 samples long....
> >> >>Chainer is a way to go.
> >> >>But download this Spinaudio lite for free to wrap around chainer to
> >lower
> >> >>the latency to 4096 samples.
> >> >>That is 1/4 of your "working" latency.
> >> >>If you are adventureous inserts the FREE multifxvst inside chainer
and
> >> >>then
> >> >>load UAD to go down to 2048 samples ! latent around 40ms...
> >> >>Not bad right ?
> >> >>Yes you were right about the compensation but at that special time it
> >did
> >> >>not work for me !!
> >> >>I guess I did something wrong then.
> >> >>Now this is a great method of compensating.
> >> >>Senderella is a great adventure to be taken for Paris.
> >> >>I hope and someone else will try it too and test it ...
> >> >>
> >> >>I will post all that I know about senderella and wrapping and
> >compensating
> >> >>in one long updated post....
> >> >>Cheers,
> >> >>Dimitrios
> >> >>"cujo" <chris@applemanstudio.com> wrote in message
> >news:4347d7f0@linux...
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Yeah this is they way I was thinking you could do it a while ago.
> >> >>> But I thought Senderella was not wokring unless
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you did the 8.8 ine
> in
> >> >>tghe
> >> >>> config.
> >> >>> wasn't that supposed to cause overheating?
> >> >>> Also I guess we'd want Chainer for more inserts for this.
> >> >>>
> >> >>> I need to get my head around these new numbers as I use that old DX
> >> >>wrapper
> >> >>> where aI do 4x100 to the left then sample slide 1058 or whatever to
> >the
> >> >>right
> >> >>> again.
> >> >>>
> >> >>> You are an intrepid man D, the idea of messing with my working
system
> >> >>gives
> >> >>> me nightmares
> >> >&g
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>;oP
>
Now, that be some well-crafted nothing!

yeah-- ChasThat brings back to mind my attempt to save a buck when I was about 16. This
was about 1988, and I had myself a decent strat copy with at least one seymour
suncan pickup and a nice neck, and had discovered the wonders od distortion
via a cheap knock off of the Boxx DS1 I had, which was a PSK pedal from memory.
Not too shabby either. I wanted to move up to the world of delay, and of
course all the talk was about digital delay, but such pedals went for $250+
whereas my budget was only about $120. I managed to find however an electronics
shop which sold a digital delay kit for around that price. Suffice to say
a week later all I had was a plastic box containing a bunch of (wrongly built)
circuits which did nothing whatsoever, and $120 had gone down the tube...

That may well have been my worst gear purchase ever when I think about it.

Cheers,
Kim.

"DC" <dc@spamviagra.com> wrote:
>
>Seemed like the slutz were having some fun with that thread.
>
>
>What's your worst gear purchase?
>
>I'll go first.
>
>1969 My first electric guitar. Went to a thrift shop and there was a
>Jazzmaster that looked cool. Only 55.00! So, I sold a bunch of
>stuff and bought it. It needed a knob so I took it to the local
>Fender dealer and his service guy about fell off his chair. It was
>a cheap knockoff (Fender decal and all) from the Phillipines!
>(evidently some of the servicemen buy them and bring them back)
>
>No truss rod, green wood in the neck, wavy plastic on the pickguard.
>
>Total POS. Worth nothing.
>
>ArrgGGGGGHHHHH...
>
>I'm 16 right, and know nothing about guitars, but I do know I am
>in a world of caca, and now I have no money.
>
>So, I go back to the thrift store, having cooked up a story about
>having sold something that wasn't mine and now I am in trouble, and
>the guy gave me my 55.00 back...
>
>Whew...
>
>Went and bought a real Fender (Jaguar this time) and finally got my
>heartbeat down to 195 or so....
>
>DC"DC" <dc@spamviagra.com> wrote:
>
>Seemed like the slutz were having some fun with that thread.
>
>
>What's your worst gear purchase?
>
>I'll go first.
>
>1969 My first electric guitar. Went to a thrift shop and there was a
>Jazzmaster that looked cool. Only 55.00!

A guitar was possibly my worst purchase too... only this one
was a real Fender - a 1972 Telecaster Deluxe. Bought in
like '80-'81 or so. What a POS!
I don't even know to describe the extent to what a POS it was
except to say it was a complete, total, and utter POS. Anyone
who owns one should burn it. Sacrifice it to the gods of shitty
guitars in hopes that someday they'll reward you with a Univox
Mosrite copy in return LOL!

Neili was lusting after a SG custom and finally got one. at the time it
cost me 1200.00 (around 1979) at Guitar Trader in Red Bank. i should
have know better when i couldn't tune it at the store. "oh, it only
needs a setup." yeah... 3 months later the neck separated at the
joint.

another one... i traded my 65 polar white, SG Jr. for a Larivee
"super strat." pointy headstock and all. was actually a very nice
guitar, neck through and all, but very 80's and ugh... when i think of
how nice that SG was. oh well.

:)

On 10 Oct 2005 10:44:09 +1000, "DC" <dc@spamvi
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