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| Re: OT: Mac Laptop for Cubase Recommendations [message #72637 is a reply to message #72623] |
Mon, 18 September 2006 16:40   |
Chris Ludwig
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e are
>things about your system that I might not like. What difference would
>that make to you? No difference at all.
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>I'm also glad I have the option to use a system that feels more elegant
>and efficient overall, to me, for the way that _I_ work right now. If
>it's not your cup of tea, that's OK, it wouldn't change how it works for
me.
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>Obviously we both have our own reasons for selecting our various tools.
>Some of mine are below.
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>Our reasons are valid even if they differ, because we each decide for
>ourselves what matters when selecting tools, based on how we want to
>live and work.
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>What's important in the end is the quality of the music we produce.
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>BTW I'm encouraged that open source has become very viable for needed
>office tasks (I dig Open Office, Thunderbird, etc.) and has potential
>for maturing on the media production side.
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>So, to each their own, within the narrowed range of choices still
>available. But keep an eye on that narrowed range and be careful what
>you wish for. It's a better marketplace if there still remains at least
>some semblance of competition and choice.
>
>Cheers,
> -Jamie
> http://www.JamieKrutz.com
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>LaMont wrote:
>> Thanks for the response James. Very Informative..I tto was around during
those
>> earliy days of personal computing.
>> Although, I really liked OS9. :)
>> I think Aplle should not have stoped the Cloning. Man, people were finally
>> getting pysced about gettign a Mac..Then boommm..
>> Oh well..
>>
>> Man, like I posted , I use both, and one XP is a speed demon even with
a
>> modest to a cheap componet system. That alone, speaks volume.
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>> Jamie K <Meta@Dimensional.com> wrote:
>>> Lamont said:
>>>>> Question: Before Windows OS got msu
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| Re: OT: Mac Laptop for Cubase Recommendations [message #72643 is a reply to message #72637] |
Mon, 18 September 2006 20:23 |
emarenot
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tween BeOS and NeXTSTEP,
>>> they chose to buy out NeXT and gain a more modern operating system
>>> foundation and hook back up with co-founder Steve, who had started NeXT
>>> after being more or less kicked out of Apple.
>>>
>>> I do disagree with the Apple decision to pull the rug out from under
Mac
>>> clone makers. I don't know everything behind it, or whether Apple's
>>> future was really on the line, but I favor competition in general.
>>>
>>> Anyway, when Apple built on NeXTSTEP to create a new MacOS, MacOSX, I
>>> became interested. Logic was the first sequencer to support OSX.
>>>
>>> OSX threw out most of the OS9 baggage. It started from a higher place
>>> and built from there. Today it's quite solid. I do question a few
>>> things, such as the imposing of extensions in file names, OS9 was better
>>> on that point. But OSX is better on every other point, way, way better.
>>> And OSX is arguably more elegant than the current incarnation of
>>> MSWindows. Mac hardware prices have also come down significantly and
now
>>> it's all Intel FWIW.
>>>
>>> As an aside, I think Apple went with file name extensions because of
a
>>> desire to be more compatible with MSWindows in (stupid, ancient) file
>>> naming conventions. Meta data be damned.
>>>
>>> BTW it really, really sucked what happened to BeOS. Both Apple and
>>> Microsoft had a hand in that, but especially Microsoft who forbade
>>> computer makers to offer BeOS as an option (yes, that's illegal).
>>> Microsoft ended up paying a paltry few million in a lawsuit but it was
>>> after BeOS had already been driven out of business, technology assets
>>> sold to Palm.
>>>
>>> Sordid business, this. Eventually open source will replace it all, probably.
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> -Jamie
>>> http://www.JamieKrutz.com
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> James McCloskey wrote:
>>>> "LaMont" <jjdpro@ameritech.net> wrote:
>>>>> Thanks James. Good Post... "They took a 90 million dollar charge
>>>>> when Apple dropped the cloning thing. For years, Motorola got
>>>>> around to Apples needs when Motorola got around to Apples needs."
>>>>> WOW!! Amazing..
>>>>>
>>>>> Question:
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| Re: OT: Mac Laptop for Cubase Recommendations [message #72651 is a reply to message #72623] |
Mon, 18 September 2006 18:56 |
gene lennon
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>> What about the audio engine (Summing bus) ..Improved?? Can you slamm it!!
>> (Lol) ;)
>> Thanks
>>
>> Dedric Terry <dterry@keyofd.net> wrote:
>>> Thought some of you that use Cubase or Nuendo with Paris or on its' own
>>> might be interested in this if you haven't upgraded yet, etc. I took
the
>>> Nuendo users' offer to get it for $199 (separate license/dongle) to run
>> on a
>>> VST System link slave PC, though I'm enjoying the new features enough
it
>> has
>>> superceded Nuendo 3.2 temporarily on my main system.
>>>
>>> C4 adds drag and drop inserts (to and from any channel, or the library).
>>> Very handy, and a much needed addition. There is an extensive
>>> library/preset capability to C4 to greatly speed up saving and loading
>>> presets for plugins, channels, VSTi's, mixers, etc.
>>>
>>> One of the biggest new and unsung features is the Media Bay (and Sound
>>> Frame, and Loop browser) which accesses all media on your system, catalogs
>>> it by type and allows you to search, filter, drag and drop relevant files
>>> into your project - there is of course a preview for audio files, in
>>> addition to the ability to preview in context (e.g. proj
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| Re: OT: Mac Laptop for Cubase Recommendations [message #72652 is a reply to message #72637] |
Mon, 18 September 2006 19:11 |
uptown jimmy
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ect plays back,
>>> audio file plays in time, time stretched to match the project tempo -
cool
>>> for loops that are cut to measure boundaries, not as useful for free
form
>>> vocal tracks, etc). Sound Frame and the Loop browser are just versions
>> of
>>> Media Bay with filters for audio and loops enabled, respectively. Not
>>> overly different, but perhaps saves a step over turning on filters in
Media
>>> Bay.
>>>
>>> The sequencer engine has been rewritten from what I understand. C4 feels
>>> more tightly integrated than Nuendo 3.2. It runs really well (not without
>>> some bugs still, of course).
>>>
>>> C4 adds VST3.0 support, and new built in VST3 plugins. The new plugins
>> with
>>> are actually very good - new EQs, compressors, expander, gate, chorus,
>>> delays, etc. They will operate in mono, stereo or multichannel depending
>> on
>>> the channel format they are inserted on (the delays and chorus are not
>>> multichannel unfortunately). Btw, a 5.1 instance of the multiband comp
>> eats
>>> up a lot of cpu power. The new VSTi's are also very good - Halion One
is
>> a
>>> rompler based on the Motif to some degree - no editing, but has quite
a
>> few
>>> useful presets. The other VSTi's are quite nice and creative and stand
>> up
>>> well along side the Raptures and Absynths of the soft synth world (albeit
>>> not as versatile as either of these).
>>>
>>> C4 adds the Control Room that is already in Nuendo 3.2 - a great feature
>> for
>>> mixerless setups, esp. with key commands for switching between speaker
>>> configs (multichannel, stereo, mono, etc), 4 different monitor outputs,
>> dim,
>>> talkback, monitor source selects, studio configs for headphone mixes,
etc.
>>>
>>> Instrument tracks are a quick way to add a VSTi with a track directly
in
>> the
>>> project window (doesn't use the VSTi rack). The only downside is only
a
>>> single stereo out is used. The VSTi rack still supports full multi-output
>>> VSTi's, but adds a dropdown list on a button next to each insert to select
>>> which outputs are enabled - easing the clutter of VSTi outputs in the
mixer.
>>>
>>> That's enough for now. fwiw...
>>>
>>> Dedric
>>>
>>>
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>I agree whole heartedly! Samplitude/Sequoia sound is stunning to say the least.
Dedric and I have been waiting for version 9 to see if this could in fact
replace our main goto
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| Re: OT: Mac Laptop for Cubase Recommendations [message #72683 is a reply to message #72652] |
Tue, 19 September 2006 06:47 |
Chris Ludwig
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"John" <no@no.com> wrote in message news:45251813$1@linux...
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> What's your setup? 200 EDS cards? 300GHZ pentium with 5mb ram?
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> "DJ" <notachance@net.net> wrote:
>>> and looky looky what I found.
>>
>>Mmmmm.......Bar BQ!!
>>
>>
>>"Robert Arsenault" <studiomanitou@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>news:45250c0c@linux...
>>> Everything is frozen solid, no mouse , keybrd, hard reset needed. Also,
>>> Paris has been flaky for the past month or so, all kinds of digital
>>> pops,
>>> I'm working, all of a sudden, graphic display on all 3 monitors goes to
>>> gibberish, need to hard reset. Re-seated all cards,ram, IDE cables,
>>cleaned
>>> MEC /EDS connectors, re-imaged my OS drive.
>>> Then I noticed during tonight's crash that the LEDs on the front of the
>>442
>>> were dimming in and out = bad pwr supply. So I decide to swap the pwr
>>supply
>>> and looky looky what I found.
>>>
>>> I have a long session booked for this evening so decide to try a fix.
>>Ended
>>> up replacing the connector on the mobo with one I had off an old brd,
>>> spliced a used connector onto the pwr supply side, so far so good.
>>>
>>> Just thought I'd share my grief and fix with others.
>>> Rob
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
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>Awwwsome - best read of the day!
"Neil" <IUOIU@OIU.com> wrote:
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>This is a must-read (therefore you must read it):
>
>http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/1004061iggypop1.html
>It looks cool. Control room features are nice, but the word is, it's the
same old Cubase audio engine, not the Nuendo audio engine: (
Dedric Terry <dterry@keyofd.net> wrote:
>Thought some of you that use Cubase or Nuendo with Paris or on its' own
>might be interested in this if you haven't upgraded yet, etc. I took the
>Nuendo users' offer to get it for $199 (separate license/dongle) to run
on a
>VST System link slave PC, though I'm enjoying the new features enough it
has
>superceded Nuendo 3.2 temporarily on my main system.
>
>C4 adds drag and drop inserts (to and from any channel, or the library).
>Very handy, and a much needed addition. There is an extensive
>library/preset capability to C4 to greatly speed up saving and loading
>presets for plugins, channels, VSTi's, mixers, etc.
>
>One of the biggest new and unsung features is the Media Bay (and Sound
>Frame, and Loop browser) which accesses all media on your system, catalogs
>it by type and allows you to search, filter, drag and drop relevant files
>into your project - there is of course a preview for audio files, in
>addition to the ability to preview in context (e.g. project plays back,
>audio file plays in time, time stretched to match the project tempo - cool
>for loops that are cut to measure boundaries, not as useful for free form
>vocal tracks, etc). Sound Frame and the Loop browser are just versions
of
>Media Bay with filters for audio and loops enabled, respectively. Not
>overly different, but perhaps saves a step over turning on filters in Media
>Bay.
>
>The sequencer engine has been rewritten from what I understand. C4 feels
>more tightly integrated than Nuendo 3.2. It runs really well (not without
>some bugs still, of course).
>
>C4 adds VST3.0 support, and new built in VST3 plugins. The new plugins
with
>are actually very good - new EQs, compressors, expander, gate, chorus,
>delays, etc. They will operate in mono, stereo or multichannel depending
on
>the channel format they are inserted on (the delays and chorus are not
>multichannel unfortunately). Btw, a 5.1 instance of the multiband comp
eats
>up a lot of cpu power. The new VSTi's are also ver
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| Re: OT: Mac Laptop for Cubase Recommendations [message #72824 is a reply to message #72807] |
Thu, 21 September 2006 06:09 |
chuck duffy
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