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Paris user Tommy Detamore scores a national release [message #76215] Mon, 20 November 2006 12:28 Go to next message
Bill Terry is currently offline  Bill Terry   
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this stuff, I'd say do your
> homework here first, asking the guys who have it already,
> and don't trust what tyhe Creamware reps tell you, because in
> my own personal experience, they don't know their product very
> well, and they certaily they don't stand behind it (I mean, when
> a guy whines to me that he's going to lose money if he takes
> the product back, even after he told me it WOULD do something
> that it DOESN'T, then THAT is a guy that ought not to be running
> any kind of business in the first place).
>
> Anyway, the stuff doens't suck, and I'm sure some of you could
> find it useful; just pick your cards and i/o options carefully
> is what I'm trying to say, because it's very unlikely that if
> you need to swap something out, the
Re: Paris user Tommy Detamore scores a national release [message #76217 is a reply to message #76215] Mon, 20 November 2006 12:00 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Tony Benson is currently offline  Tony Benson   UNITED STATES
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t> wrote:
>>>Too early to tell if it's going to
>>improve my situation in the limited capacity I'm able to use
>>it for what I'm trying to accomplish, but do far I can tell you
>>that the sound certainly sucketh not.<
>>
>>Muhahaha!!!1...........this means that a "Pro" card with an ADAT interface
>
>>(12 stereo stems @ 88.1!!!!) is just around the corner, right Neil?
>
> Actually, I'd be better off just getting one of their ADAT
> chainer card thingies for more lightpipe inputs, but no -
> although I'd like to get more inputs, I still wouldn't be able
> to get more OUTputs unless I added another Multiface or some
> other kind of interface onto the Cubase PC (remember, at 88.2k,
> I can get a max of four channels of lightpipe out of each of my
> two Multifaces... errr.... Multifascia?)
>
> HOWEVER......... having said all that, I actually think I might
> be getting what I needed out of this setup - I hate to say it &
> jinx it, but check this out:
>
>

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Re: Paris user Tommy Detamore scores a national release [message #76218 is a reply to message #76215] Mon, 20 November 2006 13:20 Go to previous messageGo to next message
DC is currently offline  DC
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temmedIntoPulsar.mp3" target="_blank"> http://www.saqqararecords.com/MiscAudio/DracoClip-ITBvsStemm edIntoPulsar.mp3
>
> This clip contains two versions of the same section of the same
> song... he first version that goes up to about :50 seconds into
> the file is the best ITB mix I can get on this song. The second
> cut, that goes from about :50 on, is the same mix, stemmed out
> of Cubase via lightpipe into four separate submixes & summed in
> Pulsar.
>
> Here's what I'm hearing on these two cuts... now, if you're
> listening on PC speakers you may not hear what I'm talking
> about here, but remember I said that I was like 98%-99%
> there, and I was looking for that 1 or two percent difference -
> I think this might be it...
> Anyway, comparing the first cut to the second cut, what I hear
> about the 2nd cut that I like better is that it has a little
> more "substance" in the lows/low mids now, and the high's, while
> still quite present, are perhaps a little bit s
Re: Paris user Tommy Detamore scores a national release [message #76219 is a reply to message #76215] Mon, 20 November 2006 13:23 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Nil is currently offline  Nil
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moother than
> those on the first clip. Vox seem a bit smoother, too;
> or maybe just sit a little better in the mix. IME, the second
> clip has a little more impact, and there's also something about
> it that just "feels better" to listen to.
>
> To me this is similar on the lower end to what I was getting
> when I tried summing through Paris, but it also doesn't lose
> the top-end clarity - I presume partly due to the fact that I'm
> able to keep everything in the digital domain via lightpipe,
> rather than having to go out into Analog to sum in Paris via the
> 8-in Module.
>
> What do you think?
>
> NeilHey Thad. Tempest in a teapot, it seems. Looks like it's just a Windows
kinda' thing as far as what the driver properties display. The Pulsar should
be working at 24bit, if 24 bit is the bitrate of the record/playback audio
software.

Deej




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Re: Paris user Tommy Detamore scores a national release [message #76220 is a reply to message #76215] Mon, 20 November 2006 12:44 Go to previous messageGo to next message
DJ is currently offline  DJ   UNITED STATES
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ere.com" target="_blank">nobody@ishere.com> wrote in message news:459072b8$1@linux...
>
> Hey Deej,
>
> It's the same for me but I'm 99.99% sure it means nothing. I think that
> setting
> is just for gamer cards and what not. Still, I haven't recorded anything
> through the Pulsar yet so I can't check for sure. When I do I'll look to
> see if there are actually 24 bit words being recorded, but I don't think
> there's anything to worry about.
>
> TCB
>
> "DJ" <nowayjose@dude.net> wrote:
>>if you are running your Pulsar on win XP (and I assume you are), go to
>>Device Manager and double click on your Pulsar card, then choose the
>>"Settings' tab. Is your Pulsar card set to a preferred bitrate of
>>16....with
>
>>no option to switch to 24 bit?
>>
>>If this is a "feature" that can't be altered, I'm getting ready to
>>manifest
>
>>
Re: Paris user Tommy Detamore scores a national release [message #76222 is a reply to message #76215] Mon, 20 November 2006 15:08 Go to previous messageGo to next message
LaMont is currently offline  LaMont
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win XP (and I assume you are), go to
>>>Device Manager and double click on your Pulsar card, then choose the
>>>"Settings' tab. Is your Pulsar card set to a preferred bitrate of
>>>16....with
>>
>>>no option to switch to 24 bit?
>>>
>>>If this is a "feature" that can't be altered, I'm getting ready to
>>>manifest
>>
>>>my existence in the middle of someone's face..........soon.
>>>
>>>Thanks,
>>>Deej
>>>
>>>
>>
>
>I listened to your samples and yes there is a big diff. Is that Cubase
you're using?


"Neil" <IUOIU@OIU.com> wrote in message news:459076c2$1@linux...
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> "Bill Lorentzen" <

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Re: Paris user Tommy Detamore scores a national release [message #76245 is a reply to message #76222] Tue, 21 November 2006 00:09 Go to previous messageGo to next message
John Macy is currently offline  John Macy
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ny others) should pause to think a bit as well.
>
>>>
>>>TCB
>>
>I gotta go with Chuck on this one too Neil, great post for the same reasons
he mentions.
AA

"chuck duffy" <c@c.com> wrote in message news:45966d22$1@linux...
>
> Hi Neil,
>
> Take a step back and read your post as if you were someone interested in
> purchasing a pulsar system.
>
> There is a ton of useful information in your post, and the style is pretty
> damn funny in my opinion.
>
> It reminds me of the good old days :-)
>
> Chuck
>
>
>
>
>
> "Neil;" <IOOIU@OIU.com> wrote:
>>
>>Well thanks, Chuckster; but I must ask why is it one of your
>>favorites?
>>I mean, it's just a summary of some stuff that was (I thought)
>>confusing, and that I was trying to make clearer for the peeps,
>>since I know some folks here have had some questions on this
>>Pulsar kit.
>>
>>Neil
>>
>>
Re: Paris user Tommy Detamore scores a national release [message #76247 is a reply to message #76215] Tue, 21 November 2006 01:55 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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"Home" Card, there's only one i/o setup... it
>>>>says "up to 12" i/o's but I don't know where they get that -
>>>>maybe that's if you add on an extender card, but from what I
>>>>can tell it's just a stereo analog i/o & a stereo digital i/o &
>>>>a MIDI i/o on that card.
>>>>
>>>>If you get either the {Project, or the Pro card, THEN you have
>>>>to choose between the following i/o options
>>>>
>>>> a.) "Classic i/o"
>>>> b.) "Plus i/o"
>>>> c.) "Z-link i/o"
>>>>
>>>>Here's a link that gives you details on the differences between
>>>>them (scroll down to the bottom half of that page):
>>>>
>>>> http://www.infinitevortex.com/creamware/scope-cards/project/
&
Re: Paris user Tommy Detamore scores a national release [message #76250 is a reply to message #76215] Tue, 21 November 2006 09:55 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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r /> http://www.cwaudio.de/download/software/sfp/SFP_v3_1c.zip

AA

"Neil" <OIUOIU@OIU.com> wrote in message news:4596878a$1@linux...
>
> Yeah after the first debacle wherein I tried to run the card on
> the same Machine as my Cubase rig, the "rep" checked with
> Creamware & mentioned that on older versions of the software,
> it reported 88.2k as an option... I asked him: "well, then how
> about seeing if they can send me one of THOSE verisons?", and
> there was some issue with that - perhaps it wouldn't work with
> the new hardware or something like that; so I then I pointed
> out that if their idea of moving forward was to drop a
> samplerate that some people DO use, but keep a samplerate like
> 32k that nobody on the planet uses anymore, then that's not
> very encouraging, either. lol
>
> Neil
>
>
> "Aaron Allen" &l
Re: Paris user Tommy Detamore scores a national release [message #76254 is a reply to message #76215] Tue, 21 November 2006 08:37 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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rom the underside will give you ton's of top end with pretty well
any snare, just be aware of phase issues with top and bottom mics

Don



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> I listen to contemporary CD's - jazz, rock, R&B, C&W, you name it - and
> hear
> beautiful, bright snare drums that make my RTA bounce around in the 16K -
> 20K range. I can't make that happen without a ton of EQ. I usually use
> a Crown CM-200 (electret condenser, kinda like an SM-57, but flatter and
> cleaner to my ear) on snare, but I've tried a Neumann KM-84 and I still
> need to crank the EQ to get that sound. Is that just what it takes? Are
> there snare drums that naturally generate higher harmonics than most? Is
> it something to do w
Re: Paris user Tommy Detamore scores a national release [message #76258 is a reply to message #76254] Tue, 21 November 2006 11:29 Go to previous message
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>>
>> I listen to contemporary CD's - jazz, rock, R&B, C&W, you name it - and

>> hear
>> beautiful, bright snare drums that make my RTA bounce around in the 16K
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