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Funkiest guitar player ever? [message #99483] Sun, 13 July 2008 07:20 Go to next message
Bill L is currently offline  Bill L   UNITED STATES
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/> >On 2008-09-14 08:41:28 -0700, "Gantt Kushner" <ganttmann@comcast.net> said:
>
>>
>> Any Sonar users around? I'm looking for something to install on my wife's
>> HP laptop fpr rempoe gigs w/ a firewire interface. I am, as the saying
goes,
>> wide open to suggestion!
>>
>> Gantt
>
>Lookin good dude. I'm trying to dig up the C16 code for you, I'll bet you
could have fun with that :-)

Chuck

"Mike Audet" <mike@...> wrote:
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>
>
>Looks like I trimmed the timings down too far in one pl
Re: Funkiest guitar player ever? [message #99484 is a reply to message #99483] Sun, 13 July 2008 07:43 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Gantt Kushner is currently offline  Gantt Kushner   
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ace.
>
>Here's a newer one.
>
>
>
>
>"Mike Audet" <mike@...> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>Hi All,
>>
>>Here's my latest build of the PSCL.
>>
>>I thought I should write a bit about what the PSCL is and what it does.
>
>>
>>
>>There is a set chain of communication that goes on in PARIS while the app
>>is running. It looks like this:
>>
>>PARIS App <--> PSCL <--> scherzo driver <---> hardware.
>>
>>Basically, the App calls functions in the PSCL in order to tell the hardware
>>to stop playing, or start, or load the driver for the 8 out cards, or whatever.
>> The PSCL translates these requests to commands that the cards can understand
>>and sends the commands to the scherzo driver to pass them down to the cards.
>>
>>
>>When the PSCL was first written - which was a long time ago now - there
>was
>>no way to run PARIS on a multi-CPU machine. Not only was there no need
>to
>>protect the code from the hazards of


Gantt Kushner
Gizmo Recording Company
Silver Spring, MD
www.gizmorecording.com
Re: Funkiest guitar player ever? [message #99487 is a reply to message #99483] Sun, 13 July 2008 08:26 Go to previous messageGo to next message
TCB is currently offline  TCB
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rogrammer. So, more
>than
>>once I've thought something was broken or messed up when it probably wasn't.
>> I just didn't understand it correctly.
>>
>>Anyway, what I have done is put locks on all the resources I can find that
>>could be affected by two CPUs trying to change them at the exact same time.
>> I've also discovered that there are certain card resources that the PSCL
>>tries to change directly without going through the scherzo driver. These
>>variables seem to need around 3 miliseconds to "take". I think that under
>>windows 95, the PSCL was directly altering the memory on the cards, but
>Windows
>>XP doesn't allow that. What I think is happening is that Windows is intercepting
>>the attempt to alter the variable and passing it down through the regular
>>mechanisms, and that imposes a delay. If the app moves on and tries to
>do
>>something that requires the value being set properly, things go wrong.

>I'm
>>guess that on a single CPU system, Windows is regularly interrupting to
>manage
>>memory, read files from the disk, update the clock, etc, etc., so these
>delays
>>were "filled in" by windows. I'm just making them explicit.
>>
>>Anyway, it seems to be working well for me. I also tightened up the start
>
Re: Funkiest guitar player ever? [message #99497 is a reply to message #99483] Sun, 13 July 2008 19:18 Go to previous messageGo to next message
steve the artguy is currently offline  steve the artguy
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ng was broken or messed up when it probably wasn't.
>>> I just didn't understand it correctly.
>>>
>>>Anyway, what I have done is put locks on all the resources I can find
that
>>>could be affected by two CPUs trying to change them at the exact same
time.
>>> I've also discovered that there are certain card resources that the PSCL
>>>tries to change directly without going through the scherzo driver. These
>>>variables seem to need around 3 miliseconds to "take". I think that under
>>>windows 95, the PSCL was directly altering the memory on the cards, but
>>Windows
>>>XP doesn't allow that. What I think is happening is that Windows is intercepting
>>>the attempt to alter the variable and passing it down through the regular
>>>mechanisms, and that imposes a delay. If the app moves on and tries to
>>do
>>>something that requires the value being set properly, things go wrong.
>
>>I'm
>>>guess that on a single CPU system, Windows is regularly interrupting to
>>manage
>>>memory, read files from the disk, update the clock, etc, etc., so these
>>delays
>>>were "filled in" by windows. I'm just making them explicit.
>>>
>>>Anyway, it seems to be working well for me. I also tightened up the start
>>>up hardware detection timings because some of them seem to work fine at
>>one
>>>fifth what they were now that the direct writes are being managed.
>>>
>>>There are other small changes, too. Let me know if you have a chance
to
>>>try this and how it goes. There may be hardware configurations that don't
Re: Funkiest guitar player ever? [message #99501 is a reply to message #99497] Sun, 13 July 2008 21:43 Go to previous messageGo to next message
TCB is currently offline  TCB
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etal/jazz/fusion stuff I've done with the adat inputs the
>>> convertor quality is way more important than losing the last 4 bits. If
>> you
>>> keep a nice hot signal, you'd never know the difference IMO.
>>> AA
>>>
>>>
>>> "Gantt Kushner" <ganttmann@comcast.net> wrote in message
>>> news:48cc7709$1@linux...
>>>> So, I've been reading a bit about the Presonus Digimax FS since there
>>>> seems
>>>> to be a lot of favorable talk about it. I'd like to have something w/
>>>> firewire
>>>> so I could do remote stuff w/ my wife's PC laptop but that seems to be
>> a
>>>> whole 'nother can of worms.
>>>>
>>>> Does anyone have experience with sending 24 bit ADAT lightpipe signal
>> into
>>>> Paris' 20 bit ADAT cards' inputs? Does it sound good, bad, indifferent?
>>>>
>>>> I'm also interested in the Mackie Onyx 1200F. 12 Onyx preamps, about
>> a
>>>> gazillion
>>>> other ins and outs, ADAT lightpipe, firewire, control room monitor,
>>>> headphone
>>>> outs. All for around $1700.
>>>>
>>>> Anyone want to buy my 1975 Martin D28?
>>>>
>>>> Gantt
>>>
>I checked on the web and only found version 1.3 for Mac OSX. Is this all that's
available for the trial version? I saww something also about a version 8
being the latest version.
Steve

"chuck duffy" <c@c.com> wrote:
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>I second that. I finally set up my rig again.
>
>Firepod
>Reaper
>Groove Agent
>Halion
>Sony Vaio laptop running VISTA!
>
>I recorded a quick and dirty version of http://www.bobdylan.com/#/songs/it-takes-lot-laugh-it-takes- train-cry
>on saturday and it was all rock solid.
>
Re: Funkiest guitar player ever? [message #99515 is a reply to message #99501] Mon, 14 July 2008 11:34 Go to previous messageGo to next message
steve the artguy is currently offline  steve the artguy
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out, in fact I saw an option to
install Reaper to a USB/removable key which reeeally peaked my interest in
it as a live tool. That's a pretty small footprint for install and a GREAT
failsafe if the PC blows up in the middle of a gig.

>
> Anyways... I seen this mentioned before in the thread and it confuses me.
> Is it a typo or could explain what you mean by, "The Presonus does not
Re: Funkiest guitar player ever? [message #99522 is a reply to message #99497] Tue, 15 July 2008 08:28 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Ed is currently offline  Ed
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ng to install on my
wife's
>>>> HP laptop fpr rempoe gigs w/ a firewire interface. I am, as the saying
>> goes,
>>>> wide open to suggestion!
>>>>
>>>> Gantt
>>>
>>I've said it before, but it's worth another round. You absolutely fail to
suck bro. Awesome work, I can't wait to get a multi core rig going with some
EDS's in it to bust a trial off.
AA


"Mike Audet" <mike@....> wrote in message news:48ce6d22$1@linux...
>
> Thanks, Chuck! I've been reading up on volatile variables. I'm thinking
> that some of the delays I'm having to put in might be better handled by
> declaring
> the user mode pointers as volatile given that we're really multitasking
> now.
>
> This is a great learning experience for me. :)
>
> Thanks again!
>
> Mike
>
>
>
> "chuck duffy" <c@c.com> wrote:
>>
>>Lookin good dude. I'm trying to dig up the C16 code for you, I'll bet you
>>could have fun with that :-)
>>
>>Chuck
>>
>>"Mike Audet" <mike@...> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>Looks like I trimmed the timings down too far in one place.
>>>
>>>Here's a newer one.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>"Mike Audet" <mike@...> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Hi All,
>>>>
>>>>Here's my latest build of the PSCL.
>>>>
>>>>I thought I should write a bit about what the PSCL is and what it does.
>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>There is a set chain of communication that goes on in PARIS while the
> app
>>>>is running. It looks like this:
>>>>
>>>>PARIS App <--> PSCL <--> scherzo driver <---> hardware.
>>>><
Re: Funkiest guitar player ever? [message #99525 is a reply to message #99515] Wed, 16 July 2008 11:57 Go to previous messageGo to next message
TCB is currently offline  TCB
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> >>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Gantt Kushner wrote:
>>>> Reaper certainly is worth checking out! I'm trying to figure out if the
>> Presonus
>>>> Firestudio is worth the extra $$$ over the FP10 (AKA Firepod). Both
>>>> allegedly
>>>> have the super groovy mic pres and firewire. Both seek to have line
>>>> outs.
>>>> The Firestudio seems to have better S/N in the digi output.
>>>>
>>>> I dunno. I need to do this on the cheap!
>>>>
>>>> Gantt
>>>>
>>>> KerryGalloway <kg@kerrygalloway.com> wrote:
>>&g
Re: Funkiest guitar player ever? [message #99552 is a reply to message #99525] Thu, 17 July 2008 22:23 Go to previous message
steve the artguy is currently offline  steve the artguy
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>>> for me because the PSCL was written in a c-like style. It's all
>>>>>> structures
>>>>>> and functions. It's not object oriented at all, which is what is more
>>>> common
>>>>>> today and what I'm used to. I'm also still a new programmer. So, more
>>>>> than
>>>>>> once I've thought something was broken or messed up when it probably
>
>>>>>> wasn't.
>>>>>> I just didn't understand it correctly.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Anyway, what I have done is put locks on all the resources I can find
>>> that
>>>>>> could be affected by two CPUs trying to change them at the exact same
>>> time.
>>>>>> I've also discovered that there are certain card resources that the
>
>>>>>> PSCL
>>>>>> tries to change directly without going through the scherzo driver.
>>>>>> These
>>>>>> variables seem to need around 3 miliseconds to "take&quo
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