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Sun, 06 April 2008 07:06

Sarah

Messages: 608
Registered: February 2007

Senior Member

br /> >>>>>I�ve seen the question �how big is the PARIS community?� asked several
>>>times
>>>>>before. As far as I know we never got a

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Re: Holy crap! [message #97793 is a reply to message #97791]

Sun, 06 April 2008 09:45

Rich Lamanna

Messages: 316
Registered: February 2006

Senior Member

IS users
>> who
>>>>>don't come to the NG) as being in the vicinity of a healthy 400 current
>>>>>users.
>>>>>
>>>>>Surprised? Not bad for eight years after discontinuation!
>>>>>
>>>>>I�ll be clear - this is not derived from the number of NG posters -
it�s
>>>>>derived from a fairly accurate hand count of the number of currently

>>>>>active
>>>>>PARIS *users* that I�ve identified on the NG over the last ten months,
>>>and
>>>>>is distinct from the size of the NG community itself. We needed that

>>>>>info
>>>>>broken out separately because while some developments (say the ability
>>>to
>>>>>open PARIS .ppjs without a PARIS rig) might indeed be of interest to
>>>>

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Re: Holy crap! [message #97795 is a reply to message #97791]

Sun, 06 April 2008 09:17

Bill L

Messages: 766
Registered: August 2006

Senior Member

me (10 months) and noted every poster I could in that recent
>>>>>timespan who indicated that they�re current users (self-identification,
>>>>>posting PARIS-specific tech support questions, specific error code
>>>>>questions, etc). I put the info in a database to sort it in different
>> ways
&g

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Re: Holy crap! [message #97800 is a reply to message #97791]

Sun, 06 April 2008 11:10

John [1]
Messages: 2229
Registered: September 2005

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suses;
>>>>> they�re useful for getting a �general sense of the community� but
>>>>> they�re
>>>>> unreliable. I simply scanned through the NG posts going back an
>>>>> arbitrary
>>>>> length of time (10

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Re: Holy crap! [message #97801 is a reply to message #97791]

Sun, 06 April 2008 14:11

steve the artguy
Messages: 308
Registered: June 2005

Senior Member

months) and noted every poster I could in that recent
>>>>> timespan who indicated that they�re current users (self-identification,
>>>>> posting PARIS-specific tech support questions, specific error code
>>>>> questions, etc). I put the info in a database to sort it in different
>> ways
>>>>> so I could pretty confidently eliminate duplicates. It was a bit
>>>>> labour-intensive but the end resu

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Re: Holy crap! [message #97815 is a reply to message #97791]

Mon, 07 April 2008 11:49

TCB
Messages: 1261
Registered: July 2007

Senior Member

sent you!
>
> I'll see you all when I get back to recording.
>
>Hi Ed -

I wasn't originally looking for responses, I was just throwing out
interesting discoveries - but yes, it's invaluable to have less-frequent
posters "step forward and be counted". I just did it the way I did because a
nose-count was necessary and I reckoned doing it that way would give results
I could be fairly confident in. Knowing how many current users there are is
of immense use in organizing larger efforts, and the more names we have on
that list the more power we have as a community.

As far as it becoming an email list - this was originally just put together
from the perspective of doing a community count, s

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Re: Holy crap! [message #97822 is a reply to message #97795]

Mon, 07 April 2008 17:03

LaMontt

Messages: 424
Registered: January 2007

Senior Member

tell outside developers who we are as a community, we better
> know
>>>>> who we are first, and I had the suspicion that my "spitball" guesstimates
>>>>> weren't doing us much justice.
>>>>>
>>>>> Now, I�m not trained in data collection and analysis but I do fine at
>>>>> research and detective work, and what I lack in skills I cheerfully
>>>>> supplement with grunt work. I wanted to share one of the results of that
>>>>> basic research with you all.
>>>>>
>>>>> I�ve seen th

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Re: Holy crap! [message #97826 is a reply to message #97822]

Mon, 07 April 2008 22:48

excelav

Messages: 2130
Registered: July 2005
Location: Metro Detroit

Senior Member

the past approach of polls and
>>>>> censuses;
>>>>> they�re useful for getting a �general sense of the community� but they�re
>>>>> unreliable. I simply scanned through the NG posts going back an arbitrary
>>>>> length of time (10 months) and noted every poster I could in that recent
>>>>> timespan who indicated that they�re current users (self-identification,
>>>>> posting PARIS-specific tech support questions, specific error code
>>>>> questions, etc). I put the info in a database to sort it in different
>> ways
>>>>> so I could pretty confidently eliminate duplicates. It was a bit
>>>>> labour-intensive but the end result is that I�m fairly confident in that
>>>>> number as a �hard flo

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Re: Holy crap! [message #97827 is a reply to message #97826]

Tue, 08 April 2008 00:38

Sarah

Messages: 608
Registered: February 2007

Senior Member

or� � the loss of a few users in the intervening
>> months
>>>>> would be counterbalanced by the certainty of undercount.
>>>>>
>>>>> I�ll finish with a general observation - �what we were� or �what we might
>>>>> once have been� has some minor academic/historical interest to me, but
>>> as
>>>> a
>>>>> "minority case" - a returning user after years of absence - I naturally
>>>> come
>>>>> to it from the perspective of �where we are right now�. I�m not interested
>>>>> in �might have beens� any more - I�m interested in what we might achieve
>>>>> starting from here and going forward.
>>>>>
>>>>> So while it's true we were larger long ago, a hard floor of 125 real
> users
>>>>> is a good strong number, an excellent number, for aficionado-driven
>>>>> efforts
>>>>> for a discontinued niche market DAW to go forward with. It�s much larger
>>>>> than some aficionado groups for other pieces of discontinued technology,
>>>> and
>>>>> some of those smaller groups have got quite a lot of very meaningful
> work
>>>>> do

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Re: Holy crap! [message #97830 is a reply to message #97827]

Tue, 08 April 2008 01:46

excelav

Messages: 2130
Registered: July 2005
Location: Metro Detroit

Senior Member

> I have some old Waves processing I used to use. I used to then take that
> mix and run Waves processing on it. I think I used to drag it back into
> the
> Editor and use two tracks on the main mixer and do a stereo process. I
> believe
> I had to click the stereo button on the Waves and the two tracks, side by
> side, would then be processed in stereo (for maximizing or eq or etc.) It
> didn't seem to work the other night though so I'm not sure.
>
> I used Sonicworx to then import the files to then burn a CD. There were
> some
> particular settings to be used (aiff, wav or ?) and the bit rate I believe
> (44100, etc.).
>
> Sorry about the length of this post. I would appreciate any assistance
> from
> anybody who can tell me what the hell I used to do!!!
>
> I always liked Paris and I'm amazed at how cheap the stuff is selling for
> now.
>
> Thanks a bunch,
> MikeSarah's way is very common. I was going to say normal but this is Sarah !
:-)

You can also make a new blank project and import the 2 tracks and process
in Paris but it is generally much easier in Sound Forge or Wavelab because
you can make a montage with all the songs on an album, set relative levels
of songs and do fades.

johnThat amp should not be breaking up. Are you sure you're not overdriving the
Input to it? Crank the amp up full and then slowly turn the output of your
POD up to find the point where it breaks up.5 everyday Paris users here in Slavonia-part of Croatia...(in Croatia i
think about maybe 20 ) ....

"Kerry Galloway" <kg@kerrygalloway.com> wrote in message

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