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| Re: Christmas Carrols are Awesome. [message #94015 is a reply to message #93993] |
Tue, 25 December 2007 11:36   |
Deej
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Label, it's better
>be in PT format.
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>I disagree with that PT sucks. It does not. It's not my favorite DAW, but
>when you learn it, it's a VERY powerful DAW who's I/O routing is second
to
>none for ITB & OTB productions.
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>By you stating that you could purchase HD1 and choose not, Says Nothing..Only
> that you chose not to.. Simple.
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>I'm a Pro who has both DSP (Paris & PTHD2) as well as Native(Nuendo, DP,
>ProTools M Powered-via Laptop) AND it's all good.
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>My point was and is: That Native is not necessarily cheap and keeps the
PRo(Engineer/Producer)
>swamped down in TECH stuff,a not on music production which as we know, Time
>is Money$$.
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>My Neundo Rig is very powerful..down right sweet!! :) But, being bogged
down
>is performance test, when we know as you have stated on many occassions,
>were fuitle.Being that we chained with current current Operating systems
>of the DAY (XP/Vista) OSX.
>
>The Promise of the great 64 bit speed boost( Yeah right). 8-16 core processors,
>with not apps or OS (For Music) coded to take a
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| Re: Christmas Carrols are Awesome. [message #94035 is a reply to message #94015] |
Wed, 26 December 2007 03:43   |
Sarah
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I followed the digi
>upgrade train from that point (1994),I would have lost about $100K in yet
>more useless obsolete basement clogging shit.I have no regrets in following
>RME/Steinberg.It works for me.
>"TCB" <nobody@ishere.com> wrote in message news:47c57a5a$1@linux...
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>> Glad I still get name checked every now and then ;-)
>>
>> I still think native is the way to go unless someone is running a big
for
>> hire room, and let's face it more of those are shutting down than starting
>> up.
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>> One thing about the RME mixer, it shouldn't be changed at all. It's the
>> most
>> flexible, powerful audio interface mixer I've ever seen. It's incredibly
>> easy to use, just a little tricky to learn. I'll take that over a
>> photorealistic
>> mixer that's less powerful any day.
>>
>> Then again, I'm a linux geek. Then again, so are the RME guys.
>>
>> TCB
>>
>> "LaMont" <jjdpro@gmail.com> wrote:
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>>>Thank you Chris for stating what I have been saying for years now.
>>>
>>>All this tech talk :($$$$$$$$$$) about low latency on native solutions,
>> is
>>>very costly AND, I might add, as Thad has said on numero
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| Re: Christmas Carrols are Awesome. [message #94036 is a reply to message #94026] |
Wed, 26 December 2007 04:12   |
Sarah
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us ocassions,
have
>>>gained nothing!! due to that fact that we are all beholding to MS Vista/XP
>>>and OSX..
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>>>On the Nuendo.com website 10 mile post on system performance specs is
>>>sickening!.
>>>Who cares? All, one should want is
>>>
>>>A stable running system, that performes the task thats needed.
>>>
>>>I'm with the get Protools HD(X) and be done with it. There are those on
>> this
>>>and other sites how have sunk major$$$$ trying to "perice-Mill_ a working
>>>DAW hat outperforms ProTools HD. That's cool, but I would these folks
have
>>>spent "More" money than just buying a super hot-rod ProTools HD6..
>>>
>>>Note: Out 2 HD rigs on G5's also run Nuendo(Via Digis Asio drivers)..Runs
>>>great, and is as stable as ever. I can mix a 70 track project with alot
>> of
>>>plugins on that baby. So, Getting a ProTools HD rig is not 'So Closed"
as
>>>some here believes.
>>>
>>>Back to the subject:
>>>If you were to do a search on Gearslutz on the symphony, yoou'd see that
>>>I slammed that card saying that "for a 1k or even 700 dollars, "What am
>> I
>>>getting".. No DSP, nothing but a glorified half baked mixer that allows
>> you
>>>to play itunes .. Not impressed.
>>>
>>>While we're onthe subject, I think RME's total mix should be simplified
>> like
>>>Motu's MkIII DSP cue mixer app. Simple, yet very powerful.
>>>
>>>Now look at all of us-you who have stayed on the PC/Mac upgrade bandwagon.
>>>Spent $$$ major money chasing the zero latency Native dream..Only to run
>>>into the win XP/Vis
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| Re: Christmas Carrols are Awesome. [message #94037 is a reply to message #94023] |
Wed, 26 December 2007 04:19   |
Sarah
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ta brick wall of doom..
>>>The lie of the 64 bit dream.. Dual core this and that..SHAM!!!
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>>>My Win ME Paris (4 card) rig still is as stable as it ever was.
>>>
>>>All in all, it's your money, spend it how you may, but one thing is for
>> sure,
>>>If are working on a major lable recording, it better be delivered in
>>>ProTools..
>>>You want a job working a sudio or media house, you better know Pro Tools..
>>>
>>>So, we can sit hear discussing Native torture test wasting time(IMHO)
when
>>>a vialble solution is already on the market that can be had these days
for
>>>under 10k..belive it or not.hat yields a very polished sound, very very
>> flexible
>>>i/o routing for hardware owners..super low-latency that allows you to
>>>track
>>>and mixrealtime live sessions..and oh yeah.. Super stable..
>>>
>>>So, just look at the reciepts from the last 5 years on or Native Dream
>>>journey
>>>and add em up. Then, add up all those clients who utter that all familiar
>>>phrase" Do you have Pro Tools"?..
>>>
>>>I guess it comes down to is his this: Are you in the game or are you not?
>>>Simple..
>>>
>>>Chris Ludwig <chrisl@adkproaudio.com> wrote:
>>>>Hi Dedric,
>>>>Apogee is doing nothing that hasn't been done by RME and Lynx for going
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>>>>on 3 years now on PC and now on Intel Macs.
>>>>If I want a proprietary hardware system I'd just buy Pro Tools and be
>>>>done with it.
>>>>Now that RME and Lynx are starting to release PCI-e cards the Symphony
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>>>>looks less and less attractive.
>>>>Not really sure what is good about it. Only thing I could see is it
>>>>being the first PCI-e card for the MAC.
>>>>About the only fair comparison would be between and RME Madi card at
96k
>>>
>>>>and see how it
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